WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 20 May

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome, Lait b.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great to have your company.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm James Macpherson with Liz Stauer and Caleb Bond coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>Labor MPs call for Australians to swap eating red meat

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<v Speaker 3>for eating insects. So I thought that was just the

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<v Speaker 3>World Economic Forum, but it's the Labor Party as well.

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<v Speaker 1>You thought they were two different.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, Stora would bite on that the accident.

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<v Speaker 3>Plus, when we look at the papers, a great story

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<v Speaker 3>on the front page of Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph detailing just

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<v Speaker 3>how many failed asylum seekers are still in the country,

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<v Speaker 3>and the Adelaide Advertiser talking about how the South Australian

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<v Speaker 3>energy policy threatens to cause blackouts in Victoria and in

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<v Speaker 3>New South Wales. We'll get to all of that when

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<v Speaker 3>we look at the papers, but first, the Victoria Labor

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<v Speaker 3>government is closing the state's parliamentary public gallery after interruptions

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<v Speaker 3>from pro Palestinian protesters. Now, the hypocrisy on this is

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<v Speaker 3>pretty big. If you're a fee paying university student in Victoria,

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<v Speaker 3>don't expect the government to do anything to help you

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<v Speaker 3>get to class without being harassed by pro Palestinian protesters.

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<v Speaker 3>Or if you're a rent paying shopkeeper in Melbourne, CBD.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't expect the Victorian government to spare you being harassed

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<v Speaker 3>and impeded by the weekly hate marchers from anti Israel protesters.

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<v Speaker 3>But the moment the Victorian State Government gets any opposition

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<v Speaker 3>or is inconvenienced by pro Palaestindian protesters, well they can't

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<v Speaker 3>change laws fast enough and suspend democratic norms.

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<v Speaker 2>This all happened the decision.

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<v Speaker 3>To close the public gallery after the Treasurer's budget speech

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<v Speaker 3>was interrupted by protesters in the gallery.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a look at what happened on May seven. Responsibilities

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<v Speaker 2>at two thousand and six.

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<v Speaker 4>We need.

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<v Speaker 1>Where the upper gallery.

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<v Speaker 3>The House will pause while the upper gallery is cleared.

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<v Speaker 1>The upper gallery will be cleared.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure what parliamentarians were expecting. After all, while

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<v Speaker 3>that budget speech was being given, a Greens MP was

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<v Speaker 3>on the chamber floor wearing a kefia, a clear active protest.

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<v Speaker 3>So if elected representatives are going to protest on the

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<v Speaker 3>chamber floor, why would they expect anything different in the

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<v Speaker 3>Peanut Gallery. As for the Victorian State government, we they've

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<v Speaker 3>spent seven months doing nothing about anti Semitism, but suddenly

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<v Speaker 3>when it affects them, it impeded their State conference at

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<v Speaker 3>the weekend, and of course disrupted the Treasurer's speech. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>suddenly they need to act not to protect Jewish citizens,

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<v Speaker 3>just to protect themselves, and of course in doing so,

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<v Speaker 3>closing the gallery, they impeded the rights of Laura abiding

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<v Speaker 3>citizens to observe parliament for themselves. Other states don't seem

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<v Speaker 3>to see anywhere near as much disruption as we see

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<v Speaker 3>in Victoria calib where I know spent quite a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of time. It seems like Victoria is a state run

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<v Speaker 3>by pro Palestinian protesters, unionists and criminals. But I would

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<v Speaker 3>be repeating myself, all of whom are appeased by the

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<v Speaker 3>Victorian government, if not encouraged.

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<v Speaker 2>So now you've got.

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<v Speaker 3>Left wing politicians running scared of their left wing followers.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a little hard to feel sorry for them, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, as Sam Crosby said on the Sunday Showdown last night,

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<v Speaker 5>let's be real, Victoria is a state full of crazy trots,

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<v Speaker 5>and that it is but the idea that the Parliament

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<v Speaker 5>would decide that you, as a citizen or even a

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<v Speaker 5>non citizen, I mean, you know, you can be a

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<v Speaker 5>resident or even a tourist, that you would not have

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<v Speaker 5>the ability to go along and freely view the process

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<v Speaker 5>of democracy playing out is an absolute outrage.

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<v Speaker 6>It is such a basic right to be able to.

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<v Speaker 5>Go along and watch the people who you pay compulsorily

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<v Speaker 5>through your taxes to look after you, to watch how

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<v Speaker 5>they do their job, because they are.

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<v Speaker 6>Doing it for you.

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<v Speaker 5>These people, let's not forget, are employed by us. We

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<v Speaker 5>elect them, and they are ultimately accountable to us. And

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<v Speaker 5>then when they're faced with some protests and yes, these

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<v Speaker 5>idiots who have been going into the public gallery and

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<v Speaker 5>carrying on ought to be carted away, But in the

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<v Speaker 5>face of protest, which is part of the democratic process,

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<v Speaker 5>they then decide, well, no, no one is allowed to

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<v Speaker 5>come into Parliament and watch how we do things anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>And they will say, oh, well, you can watch it

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<v Speaker 5>on the live stream online. But the live stream can

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<v Speaker 5>go down, they can cut the feed if they really

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<v Speaker 5>wanted to, they could stop you from watching that online.

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<v Speaker 5>So they've taken away your ability to participate in the

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<v Speaker 5>democratic process by seeing how it's done. And however, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>well meaning this might be oh, you know, looking after

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<v Speaker 5>the safety of parliamentarians. It starts with we're looking after

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<v Speaker 5>the safety of parliamentarians. And then well, you know, it

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<v Speaker 5>was actually quite good when we had the public gallery

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<v Speaker 5>closed because it didn't create any nuisance and no.

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<v Speaker 6>Noise, So why don't we leave it like that?

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<v Speaker 5>And well, if you can't go along and watch parliament,

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<v Speaker 5>then why should you have a right to participate and

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<v Speaker 5>view any other form of democracy. Why should you be

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<v Speaker 5>able to go to a council meeting, Why should you

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<v Speaker 5>be able to go to federal parliament. Why should you

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<v Speaker 5>be able to go and sit in a court room

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<v Speaker 5>and watch court proceedings. Let's just do it all behind

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<v Speaker 5>closed doors where you have no idea what's going on.

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<v Speaker 5>I know it sounds extreme, but that is how important

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<v Speaker 5>it is to resist this kind of thing, because it

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<v Speaker 5>is the most basic democratic right.

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<v Speaker 7>And also they've only suspended it till after the winter break.

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<v Speaker 1>What do they think is going to be different, Well, to.

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<v Speaker 7>The highest state of Victoria's supposed to have a come

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<v Speaker 7>to Jesus moment. There's not going to be lefties that

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<v Speaker 7>are absolute nutters charging into the chamber rather the gallery

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<v Speaker 7>to disrupt the chamber, which is also arguably full of nos.

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<v Speaker 7>But the reason that they give for this is highly

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<v Speaker 7>questionable and not very transparent at all. So we're told

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<v Speaker 7>that the President of the Upper House, Sean Lane, said

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<v Speaker 7>that they reached this decision. Well, he told the hearing

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<v Speaker 7>that the action to close the galleries had been taken

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<v Speaker 7>after a security incident occurred while a person was being

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<v Speaker 7>given access to Parliament on Budget Day, which is the

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<v Speaker 7>day that we just watched some footage of. Now, word

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<v Speaker 7>has it that this person was being signed in by

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<v Speaker 7>an MP. No cigar for guessing what kind of MP

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<v Speaker 7>in may have been signing this person in who had

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<v Speaker 7>a history of protest action already, So obviously someone in.

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<v Speaker 1>Parliament House please do your job.

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<v Speaker 7>This is perhaps someone who ought not be admitted again.

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<v Speaker 7>But we understand that there was some sort of incident

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<v Speaker 7>around that, and now that has.

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<v Speaker 1>Justified a call so drastic.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't believe we've ever seen this take place in

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<v Speaker 7>any parliament other than COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously all the rules went out.

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<v Speaker 6>The walls, the window, the window window.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, but this is our parliament. We paid for this place.

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<v Speaker 7>We are effectively the employers who have been currently.

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<v Speaker 1>Locked out of our own We own the.

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<v Speaker 7>Place exactly by our little employees being like, well.

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<v Speaker 1>We're concerned about our.

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<v Speaker 7>Safety or whatever rubbish excuse they want to cook up.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't care when it was the public.

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<v Speaker 7>No, No, but you care now, don't you, because now

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<v Speaker 7>your feelings threatened by people to get this Victorian Parliament.

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<v Speaker 7>Your plant potatoes, your harvest potatoes, okay, And that is

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<v Speaker 7>what you guys do, your nutjobs. You make terrible policies.

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<v Speaker 7>You never cracked down on the fruits of your labor, obviously,

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<v Speaker 7>because you can't be this bad at your job unintentionally.

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<v Speaker 7>So these are the kinds of people that you want

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<v Speaker 7>harvest there in Victoria. And you don't have a problem

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<v Speaker 7>with it, do you until they show up to your

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<v Speaker 7>place of work, and then you take it really personally,

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<v Speaker 7>just like the premiere recently came out because her office

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<v Speaker 7>has been trashed for the third time by these pro

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<v Speaker 7>Palestinian protesters who seem to think that she's got great

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<v Speaker 7>sway in regarding what's happening in Gaza, and she's all

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<v Speaker 7>angry about that. None of the rest, none of the

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<v Speaker 7>fact that I don't know Melbourne University is currently under siege.

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<v Speaker 1>No, none of that.

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<v Speaker 7>She won't speak about any of that, but she's very

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<v Speaker 7>angry that her own office has been trashed, and of

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<v Speaker 7>course you get these agitators coming in if you're going

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<v Speaker 7>to have.

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<v Speaker 1>Open galleries, as you should. But that's what we pay

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<v Speaker 1>security for.

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<v Speaker 7>So we give you this awesome place called Parliament House.

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<v Speaker 1>You get to come there and act all grand.

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<v Speaker 7>If someone is an agitator, we're paying security to look

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<v Speaker 7>after you guys, and they can just pull them out

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<v Speaker 7>of the gallery. They have absolutely no excuse to close

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<v Speaker 7>the gallery.

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<v Speaker 1>What'sever.

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<v Speaker 5>And supposedly one of the other excuses is that when

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<v Speaker 5>you had that incident the woman who was screaming and

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<v Speaker 5>shouting in the middle of the budget when she was

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<v Speaker 5>being removed, a parliamentary attendant was injured or something. Right,

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<v Speaker 5>But I mean, you know they don't go around shutting

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<v Speaker 5>down pubs because a bouncer copped a bit of biffo

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<v Speaker 5>from some drunk bloke on a Saturday night. Right, We

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<v Speaker 5>just understand that sometimes these things happen. It's unfortunate. You

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<v Speaker 5>get a bit of compo in a few days off

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<v Speaker 5>and then you go back to work.

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<v Speaker 1>But what that's the case? Just tell the public the

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<v Speaker 1>details again and working.

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<v Speaker 6>For us, and why can't you tell us that was

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<v Speaker 6>the case.

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<v Speaker 5>Why can't they just treat it, because they're saying, we

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<v Speaker 5>need to have this this ban or stop or whatever

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<v Speaker 5>you want to call it until after the winter break

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<v Speaker 5>so we can figure out how to.

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<v Speaker 2>Deal with it.

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<v Speaker 5>Right I can tell you right now how to deal

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<v Speaker 5>with it. If someone comes and sits in the public

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<v Speaker 5>gallery and impedes the proceedings of Parliament, you ban them

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<v Speaker 5>for two years.

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<v Speaker 6>Just like if you go to the mcg or.

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<v Speaker 5>Adelaide Oval or or the Gabber or anywhere and you

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<v Speaker 5>disrupt the game, you carry on in an antisocial manner,

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<v Speaker 5>the cops give you a move on order and they

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<v Speaker 5>ban you from the ground for a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 5>Just do it.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, how hard can it be to do that tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 5>And you fix the issue without having to remove everyone

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<v Speaker 5>from the.

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<v Speaker 1>Gallery, run the prime minister. Problem solved. How easy was that, Victoria?

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<v Speaker 1>How easy was that?

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<v Speaker 7>You're not crushing anyone's democratic rights.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course that's your specialty, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 6>Well?

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<v Speaker 7>Last week rumor turned to reality as President Biden suddenly

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<v Speaker 7>did the wildest one eighty and decided, yes, I will

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<v Speaker 7>debate Donald Trump for better off or worse twice before

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<v Speaker 7>the election this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you people.

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<v Speaker 7>I have bought my bodyweight in popcorn and I will be.

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<v Speaker 1>Consuming it all. But Trump knows.

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<v Speaker 7>Better than anybody else that what we are about to

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<v Speaker 7>see with Biden agreeing.

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<v Speaker 1>To such a feat.

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<v Speaker 7>When this guy struggles to walk in a straight line,

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<v Speaker 7>or should I say walk at all, much less read

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<v Speaker 7>off a teleprompter, he knows that we are about to

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<v Speaker 7>see the pharmaceutical stimulant of the century on display during

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<v Speaker 7>this debate, the Manhattan Project.

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<v Speaker 1>Of pharmacutical stimulants.

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<v Speaker 7>And so he's told everyone just this last weekend gone,

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<v Speaker 7>He's going to demand a drug test.

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<v Speaker 6>Two points up to Biden.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't can't talk, he can't walk, can't find his.

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<v Speaker 6>Way off of stage, can't put two sentences together. Although

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<v Speaker 6>he has agreed to debate, so.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, maybe there knows something.

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<v Speaker 6>He's going to be so jacked up for those debates.

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<v Speaker 4>You are I just want to debate this game, but

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and I'm going to demand a drug test too,

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<v Speaker 4>By the way.

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<v Speaker 6>I am, no, I really am.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want him coming in like the.

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<v Speaker 6>State of the Union. He was high as a cake,

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<v Speaker 6>he said, is that Joe up there?

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<v Speaker 7>Of course, Biden's agreed to do this to save face.

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<v Speaker 7>There's absolutely no other reason why he would agree to

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<v Speaker 7>do this. If he were to bow out of the

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<v Speaker 7>presidential debates altogether, he would have been the first president

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<v Speaker 7>to do so since Nixon in nineteen seventy two. And

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<v Speaker 7>of course, we know from that unforgettable poll in March

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<v Speaker 7>of this year that a third of Americans don't believe

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<v Speaker 7>President Biden is up for a second term due to

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<v Speaker 7>his lack of mental acuity. But that didn't stop Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 7>He was having such a heyday at this rally in

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<v Speaker 7>Massachusetts or.

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<v Speaker 6>Was it Misschipi Minnesota?

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 7>There's way too many states in the country of America,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm telling you, but he was having so much fun.

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<v Speaker 7>Everyone has likened this particular rally to a legit stand

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<v Speaker 7>up comedy routine.

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<v Speaker 4>Americans are not struggling, you know, this is the worst platform.

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<v Speaker 6>Who put this stage up here?

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<v Speaker 4>This is the freaking place is falling down. It keeps

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<v Speaker 4>stilting further left, like too many other things. What a

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<v Speaker 4>crappy contractor this way now, I put my hand on

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<v Speaker 4>this thing, and the thing till so over. Now, this

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<v Speaker 4>sucker is really tenuous, I'm telling you, is at some

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<v Speaker 4>point I'll be starting, I won't leave, and we'll finish up.

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<v Speaker 4>But this sucker is going to be sitting down there

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<v Speaker 4>on the floor.

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<v Speaker 7>There's someone who's not reading off a teleprompter.

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<v Speaker 1>And the crowd was eating it up.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, he had more laughs than those Netflix specials

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<v Speaker 7>of actual comedians.

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<v Speaker 2>They love it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that shows you why Biden has specified he

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<v Speaker 3>will participate in debates so long as there is no

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<v Speaker 3>studio audience, because Biden well understands Trump will have an

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<v Speaker 3>audience eating out of his hand while Biden has to

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<v Speaker 3>stick to an auto qu and even then he reads

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<v Speaker 3>the prompts as well as the script. When Trump goes

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<v Speaker 3>off script, he's quite brilliant. And I think it's enough

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<v Speaker 3>recognition for just how entertaining and how funny he is.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, he is an entertainer, Like you know, he was

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<v Speaker 5>a businessman originally, but he made his popularity out of

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<v Speaker 5>being an entertainer, right, And a lot of people go, oh, Jews,

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<v Speaker 5>so wish all the politicians were boring. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>he just adds something to politics that you can't get

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<v Speaker 5>anywhere else. And because he is an entertainer and made

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<v Speaker 5>money out of doing so, for so long. He knows

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<v Speaker 5>how to talk to people in the way they talk, right,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's not often that you get that out of

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<v Speaker 5>a politician. And you know the way he's carrying on

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<v Speaker 5>about the lecturn and oh, oh freaking place is falling apart, right,

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<v Speaker 5>He's talking to the crowd like the crowd talk to

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<v Speaker 5>each other. And people love to see that in a politician.

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<v Speaker 5>And he's just the ultimate troll, isn't he as well?

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<v Speaker 5>He over the weekend gave another speech to the National

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<v Speaker 5>Rifle Association, the NRA, and floated this idea, which he

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<v Speaker 5>has before, but in serious interviews he's distanced himself from it,

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<v Speaker 5>but he brings it up every now and again for

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<v Speaker 5>a laugh, to say, well, why don't I just go

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<v Speaker 5>for a third presidency? You know, well, let's do away

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<v Speaker 5>with this idea of having two terms.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll go to three terms. Why not? And of course, since.

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<v Speaker 5>Been two terms since FDR served his fourth term, and

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<v Speaker 5>so they passed an amendment to restrict it, and he's

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<v Speaker 5>sort of toyed with the idea.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you know, how bad could it possibly be? Three terms?

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<v Speaker 5>I think there is an argument that three terms is

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<v Speaker 5>bad because imagine if you ended up with three.

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<v Speaker 6>Terms of Joe Biden. I think that is possibly the

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<v Speaker 6>most argument.

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<v Speaker 3>Ever, three terms of Baraka bars Yes, what's the difference.

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<v Speaker 3>But the other thing, just on that stump speech that

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<v Speaker 3>Trump gave, he wasn't just being funny, he was actually

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<v Speaker 3>being quite brilliant. Because when he says of the stage,

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<v Speaker 3>the whole freaking place is falling apart. We don't hear

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<v Speaker 3>him talking about the stage. We hear him talking about

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<v Speaker 3>the United States. When he says who's the contractor, we

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<v Speaker 3>don't hear him dissing the contract that we hear him

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<v Speaker 3>dissing the current administration. So you know, he's more than

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<v Speaker 3>just a great troll. He's actually politically quite brilliant. You

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<v Speaker 3>compare that to Biden, I mean, you would buy tickets,

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<v Speaker 3>You've brought your body weight in popcorn because you're so

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<v Speaker 3>excited to hear Trump. But no one wants to hear

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<v Speaker 3>from Joe Biden. No one even wants to see him.

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<v Speaker 3>Check out his motiicaide traveling through Atlanta over the weekend

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<v Speaker 3>to give a speech.

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<v Speaker 2>There's the president traveling through. Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Normally, whether you support the president or not, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>that often you get to see his Motiicaide, right, so

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<v Speaker 3>you'd be there, but there is literally nobody there aside

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<v Speaker 3>from a couple of people who are not there for Biden.

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<v Speaker 3>They're just trying to get across the street. So you've

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<v Speaker 3>got these two situations.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. When Trump is in court in New York, they barricade.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple of blocks so protesters can't al sorry, supporters

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<v Speaker 3>can't get near him. But when Biden is in town,

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<v Speaker 3>they just banned photographers from using a wide angle lens

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<v Speaker 3>because don't want you to see.

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<v Speaker 2>No one is there.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's Atlanta, Georgia, which is you know, really blue

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<v Speaker 5>part of town, right, and they still can't get anyone

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<v Speaker 5>to come out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's there.

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<v Speaker 6>It's the greatest.

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<v Speaker 5>Argument against us ever becoming a republic, because you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you've got the king or the queen or whoever comes

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<v Speaker 5>at everyone lines the streets. We don't want another bloody politician.

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<v Speaker 5>There's sick of politicians. We don't want to stand on

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<v Speaker 5>the side of the road and look at a politician.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's like during the beginning of Trump's trial in

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<v Speaker 5>New York, when he went down after court one day

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<v Speaker 5>and made a visit to a bodega, which is a

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<v Speaker 5>convenience sort they call a convenience or a bodega is

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<v Speaker 5>And he went there because there was a former worker

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<v Speaker 5>who'd been there who'd been pursued by the cops for defending.

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<v Speaker 6>Himself against a robber, etc.

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<v Speaker 5>Went down for a bit of a political stump speech,

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<v Speaker 5>and there's people everywhere and supporters and we love you Trump,

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<v Speaker 5>and kids in school uniform.

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<v Speaker 6>Shouting out to him. Whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>So the next day or a couple of days later,

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<v Speaker 5>Biden then decided he was going to do the same thing,

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<v Speaker 5>and he pulled into a servo or something and walked

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<v Speaker 5>in and no one wanted a bar of him, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just it was a lot of support for Brandon.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's go Brandon indeed, and Biden was also out making

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<v Speaker 5>a few speeches on the weekend. This is when he

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<v Speaker 5>made at Morehouse College in Georgia. So you've just seen

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<v Speaker 5>the footage of him driving through Georgia. He was either

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<v Speaker 5>on his way to the college or leaving it here

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<v Speaker 5>where he is talking to a bunch of students who

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<v Speaker 5>are graduating and basically going down the divide and conquer road.

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<v Speaker 5>He spent the weekend sucking up to black voters, and

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<v Speaker 5>he went to another side. He went to Detroit as well,

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<v Speaker 5>and we'll get to that in a minute, to talk

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<v Speaker 5>to an association over there. But at this college in Georgia,

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<v Speaker 5>he basically says to these kids, the country hates you

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<v Speaker 5>because you are black, and therefore you should vote for me.

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<v Speaker 8>You missed your high school graduation, you started college just

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<v Speaker 8>as George Floyd was murdered, and there was a reckoning

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<v Speaker 8>on race. It's natchel to wonder democracy you hear about

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<v Speaker 8>actually works for you. What is democracy? A black matter

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<v Speaker 8>man killed on the street?

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<v Speaker 2>What is democracy?

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<v Speaker 8>Portrayal of Broker promises slowly black communities behind?

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<v Speaker 2>What is democracy?

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<v Speaker 8>You have to be ten times better than anyone else

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<v Speaker 8>to go to fair shot. Most of all, what does

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<v Speaker 8>it mean? As we've heard before, he'd be a black

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<v Speaker 8>man who loves his country even if it doesn't love

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<v Speaker 8>him back in equal measure.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, he literally says, you have to be ten

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<v Speaker 5>times better than anyone else to get a fair shot.

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<v Speaker 5>He is telling these kids that they've failed before they've

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<v Speaker 5>even begun. He sows the seeds of division, because what

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<v Speaker 5>else does he have.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you notice the applause was quite sparse.

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<v Speaker 3>There were as many people clapping as there were on

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<v Speaker 3>the pavement watching his moticade because they know he's a

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<v Speaker 3>race bata and that kind of talk to a mostly

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<v Speaker 3>black student body is a pretty good dangerous.

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<v Speaker 7>Stationed yes, and which is why he brings up George Floyd,

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<v Speaker 7>because we know how big a deal that was in

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<v Speaker 7>the States, literally saying, what is democracy if black men

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<v Speaker 7>are being killed in the street? Mate, If you look

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<v Speaker 7>at your own twenty twenty three interracial homicides, eighty six

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<v Speaker 7>blacks were killed by whites and four hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 7>eight whites were killed by black So don't be ripping

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<v Speaker 7>those stats out in your speech talking to a university

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<v Speaker 7>of young black men in Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>For crying out loud, this guy is.

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<v Speaker 7>Such a shill, and he has shown time and time again.

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<v Speaker 7>Remember that Remember that ad he did with a young

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<v Speaker 7>black family and he brought them chicken chicken, and it

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<v Speaker 7>was just so cringe nobody could watch it without their

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<v Speaker 7>eyes watering. But these Democrats have shown time and time

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<v Speaker 7>again they actually despise these people. They take them for granted.

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<v Speaker 7>This is the same man who for less than four

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<v Speaker 7>years ago said you ain't black, you don't vote for me.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't vote Democrat, then you don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>your own mind. You don't even know.

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<v Speaker 7>The party that's helping you do us a favor. They

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<v Speaker 7>do nothing but insult them while expecting to be favored

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<v Speaker 7>with their vote.

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<v Speaker 3>And while Biden despises black people, the media despised Christians.

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<v Speaker 3>Just before we move on to other topics, I've got

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<v Speaker 3>to show you this headline from the Sydney Morning Herald,

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<v Speaker 3>Make America Godly again? Christians refuse to lose faith in Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>That was their headline in the SMH. And what I

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<v Speaker 3>thought was funny about this, Liz, is that they said

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<v Speaker 3>they can't believe Christians are supporting Trump. Don't they know

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<v Speaker 3>that Trump is a bit sort of you know, liberal

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<v Speaker 3>on abortion maybe, and he's friendly with LGBTQ people. So

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<v Speaker 3>according to the Sydney Morning Herald, you're not a true

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<v Speaker 3>Christian if you're not completely anti abortion and completely the

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<v Speaker 3>anti LGBTQ. But tomorrow they'll say you're an extreme Christian

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<v Speaker 3>radical if you are hardline on abortion and hardline on

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<v Speaker 3>sexuality and issues of trans So the.

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<v Speaker 2>Media have it both ways.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was quite hysterical how suddenly they're saying

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<v Speaker 3>you're not a real Christian unless you're completely anti abortion

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<v Speaker 3>and completely anti LGBTQ people.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, despite Trump's failings, he's still better than Satan, which

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<v Speaker 7>is your other option in.

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<v Speaker 1>My humble opinion.

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<v Speaker 7>But let's talk about the Greens because we love to

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<v Speaker 7>do that on this show and just check in on

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<v Speaker 7>their level of delusion.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a new committee in town. The Feds love

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<v Speaker 1>to do this.

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<v Speaker 7>This one is an oversight committee of the Defense Department.

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<v Speaker 7>There was a bit of jibaji early on the Defense

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<v Speaker 7>higher ups didn't like this idea of you know, I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know, more accountability by parliament.

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<v Speaker 1>Who wants that?

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<v Speaker 7>Anyway, it got across the line. It's happening, and it's

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<v Speaker 7>going to be very important. It's going to ramp up

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<v Speaker 7>parliamentary scrutiny of major acquisitions, you know, like the nuclear subs,

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<v Speaker 7>like our hunter those frigates, what are they actually hunter class?

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<v Speaker 7>I just call them hunters, you know, for short, as

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<v Speaker 7>I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, So very serious committee.

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<v Speaker 7>It's going to fulfill a massive function in the Greens.

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<v Speaker 7>Before it's even started are demanding a seat on board

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<v Speaker 7>because of course, the Greens, with their massive knowledge of

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<v Speaker 7>all things defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Who wouldn't want them to be on this committee. Right.

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<v Speaker 7>Let's go straight to the quote from David Shuebridge. He

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<v Speaker 7>says it is critically important to have a Greens representative

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<v Speaker 7>on there. Over the next ten years, the defense budget

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<v Speaker 7>is estimated to be three quarters of a trillion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm impressed.

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<v Speaker 7>He even knows that funding some of the most complex

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<v Speaker 7>and high risk procurement projects the common Wealth has ever undertaken.

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<v Speaker 7>It would be reckless to limit the oversight of those projects, right,

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<v Speaker 7>So we would be limiting the oversight of these projects

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<v Speaker 7>if we don't have the Greens on board.

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<v Speaker 1>The Greens, the Greens who literally.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't even support our flag which our soldiers carry into battle.

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<v Speaker 1>The Greens, who are fringe.

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<v Speaker 7>Activists basically stand against everything that mainstream Australians love. And

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<v Speaker 7>indeed those who go to war fight for they hate Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>They make that extremely clear. They're hostile to Orcus So

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of important.

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<v Speaker 7>But no, they consider themselves absolutely crucial to the making

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<v Speaker 7>up of this Defense Oversight Committee. Can you imagine what

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<v Speaker 7>their contributions would be.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a thirteen member committee and the members are

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<v Speaker 3>appointed by the Prime Minister. He has complete ability to

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<v Speaker 3>say who we want, which is a bit of a

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<v Speaker 3>worry because the latest News poll has the Greens polling

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<v Speaker 3>at thirteen percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you believe that? So?

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<v Speaker 3>And we've already seen that anthe Alberanzi is not above

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<v Speaker 3>partnering with the Greens. I mean he wanted to partner

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<v Speaker 3>with them to get a religious discrimination bill up. Can

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<v Speaker 3>you believe it? As if the Greens would.

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<v Speaker 2>Be helpful in that.

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<v Speaker 3>So you could see a situation where Albanezi might grant

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<v Speaker 3>David Shubridge his desire. But this committee is going to

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<v Speaker 3>get classified defense papers. They can ask for top level

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<v Speaker 3>briefings anytime they want. If you're going to give the

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<v Speaker 3>Greens a seat, you might as well give the Chinese

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<v Speaker 3>Commonist Party and a MUSS a seat at the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm not quite sure what the difference is sometimes.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, I think it's highly unlikely that they would give

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<v Speaker 5>the Greens a seat because, of course, the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 5>has gone through enough trouble with his own party to

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<v Speaker 5>shore up support for Orcards.

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<v Speaker 3>Gillard when he's in partnership with the Greens to retain power.

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<v Speaker 2>So I know that anything beyond the Labor Party.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, that's a slightly different situations, gone through enough grief

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<v Speaker 5>with his own party to shore up Orcus and the

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<v Speaker 5>left within his own party that was opposed to that

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:09.040
<v Speaker 5>that if he were to then put the Greens on

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<v Speaker 5>this committee, the blowback he would get from the right

0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:15.280
<v Speaker 5>of the party would be extreme and would create even

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<v Speaker 5>more troubles for him. But you would not want to

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<v Speaker 5>let them anywhere near the joint And the way they're

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<v Speaker 5>going to do it is by trying to pass an

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<v Speaker 5>amendment that mandates that they must have a seat. Now

0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 5>no one else gets that ability.

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<v Speaker 3>Well they're worthy is that it should recognize the diversity

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<v Speaker 3>of the parliament.

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<v Speaker 6>You must have it. I mean there there will be

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<v Speaker 6>nothing to say that.

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<v Speaker 1>The diversity of the parliament.

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<v Speaker 7>Those of us who hate war under all circumstances.

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<v Speaker 1>Must also be recognized on this committee.

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<v Speaker 6>Now won't say you must have a coalition member on it.

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<v Speaker 6>It says there must be two.

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<v Speaker 5>Government members and two non government members, which could be anyone, right,

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<v Speaker 5>But I mean the Greens they hate defense. They hate

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<v Speaker 5>defense of the country because of course they hate the country,

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:02.160
<v Speaker 5>and they hate defense on the front of your property,

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:04.520
<v Speaker 5>because of course property is theft and you should not

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<v Speaker 5>be able to protect it from anyone else. You should

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 5>make it available to anyone who possibly wants to squat

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<v Speaker 5>on it.

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<v Speaker 6>Anyway, that's a matter for another day.

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<v Speaker 5>They probably want the Chinese Communist Party to squat on

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<v Speaker 5>the country too. Let's go over three minutes to the

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<v Speaker 5>UK now, where we've seen a change of heart recently

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<v Speaker 5>from the UK government when it comes to matters of transgenderism,

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<v Speaker 5>particularly where it is treated from a health perspective. We've

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<v Speaker 5>seen the closing down of the Tavistock Center, which was,

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<v Speaker 5>of course one of the major gender clinics in the UK.

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<v Speaker 5>We've seen a move away from the idea of gender

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<v Speaker 5>affirming care for children, whereby children were told that if

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<v Speaker 5>they feel our transgender then they should begin some sort

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<v Speaker 5>of medical treatment, whether that be through surgery or medication

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 5>or otherwise to change the makeup of their body. Will

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<v Speaker 5>not the UK Labor Party, they have decided that if

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<v Speaker 5>they are elected later this year, which seems to be

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<v Speaker 5>highly likely it will happen, they will make it so

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<v Speaker 5>easy to officially change your gender that it will be

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<v Speaker 5>more difficult to go and buy a part of milk.

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 5>Almost all you'll have to do is go to a doctor.

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<v Speaker 5>Perhaps your local GP, your family GP and say, look,

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like the body I'm living in is not

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<v Speaker 5>the one I belong in, and your doctor can sign

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 5>off a piece of paper that says officially your gender

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<v Speaker 5>has changed.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>Currently, if you want to go through that process, a

0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:35.919
<v Speaker 5>gender recognition certificate they call it, you have to be

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:39.720
<v Speaker 5>diagnosed with gender dysphoria. You have to have been living

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 5>as though you were the other gender for at least

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 5>two years. You have to affirm that you intend to

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<v Speaker 5>live as that gender for the rest of your life.

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:51.160
<v Speaker 5>You need two medical reports, one of them from a specialist,

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<v Speaker 5>and then finally all of that has to be considered

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<v Speaker 5>by a panel. And that seems fair enough because to

0:28:57.840 --> 0:29:01.200
<v Speaker 5>say that you are changing your gender it's pretty extreme.

0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 5>But no UK Labor the opposition says, if we're in power,

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<v Speaker 5>do away with all of that because and according to

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<v Speaker 5>one source who talk to a newspaper the UK, they

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<v Speaker 5>said that they want the process to be less medicalized,

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 5>as though this was just something that you wake up

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:19.600
<v Speaker 5>in the morning and you can flip flop every single day.

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<v Speaker 5>Just go to one doctor, go to one doctor on

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<v Speaker 5>Monday and get the certificate to say you're a woman.

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 5>And then go to another doctor on Wednesday to get

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<v Speaker 5>the certificate to say you're a man.

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:30.880
<v Speaker 6>When you work out, you get some sort of tax.

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<v Speaker 2>Benefit for cognitive dissonance on this one is high.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen to analyst Dodds, she's the shadow Women and Equalities Minister.

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<v Speaker 3>She said, my quote, we want to see the process

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<v Speaker 3>of gender recognition modernized. I'm not quite sure how you

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 3>modernize it. It's always been the same. You look down

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 3>in the shower and you know what gender you are.

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 3>But she says this, She says, we want to see

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<v Speaker 3>the process of gender recognition modernized while protecting single sex

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 3>spaces for biological women. Well, the contradictions in that, wow,

0:29:57.240 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 3>are enormous. How can you say you can be a

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 3>woman simply by consulting your GP, yet we're going to

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 3>protect women. Also, how can you say trans women are

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 3>women but then differentiate between those and biological women.

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<v Speaker 2>The contradictions are everywhere in this policy.

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<v Speaker 7>These people have absolutely no idea what they're doing. But

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<v Speaker 7>essentially we are talking about the party.

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Who is currently not in power but.

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<v Speaker 7>Looks like they're going to be soon saying prayer UK

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<v Speaker 7>undoing absolutely everything that the current conservative not really conservative

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:33.120
<v Speaker 7>but they are the Tories, so we'll say the Conservative Party,

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 7>the current Conservative Party which is in power, have done

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 7>by shutting down Tavistock by having their cast review, then

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 7>unloading the cast report and saying effective immediately, no more

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 7>of this transitioning drugs nonsense happening in our country anymore.

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 7>So these guys are basically signaling we're just going to

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 7>flip the tables. Everything's going to go. It's going to

0:30:58.200 --> 0:31:00.239
<v Speaker 7>be a free for all. If they're going to make

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 7>it that simple to amend legal records basically your birth

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 7>certificate or whatever the case may be, and tell the

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 7>world that you're now a different gender. It's as simple

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 7>as one trip to your GP and then your home

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 7>and host.

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<v Speaker 3>And don't forget the British government stopped Scotland from introducing

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 3>Lack's gender recognition laws. Nicholas Sturgeon was going to make

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 3>it very easy to swap gender's richie snack. Stop them

0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 3>from doing that. But now, of course the UK are about

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<v Speaker 3>to change.

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<v Speaker 5>I quite flippantly made a comment about it to be

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 5>harder to buy a pint of milk. But I can

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 5>tell you one thing that is harder to do, and

0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:39.120
<v Speaker 5>that's when I go to the doctor and I ask

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<v Speaker 5>for forty milligram tablets of somac, and I'm sure many

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 5>of you at home take somac. It's a reflux drag, right,

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 5>But if you want the forty milligrams, they've actually got

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 5>to call someone up and get.

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 6>Approval to give it to you.

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 5>So it's harder to get anti reflux medication in Australia

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<v Speaker 5>at Legitimately, then it will be to change your gender

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<v Speaker 5>in the UK.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, tell me how that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's stay in the UK.

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<v Speaker 3>We reported recently on local council elections which were hugely

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 3>impacted by the Muslim vote, and we talked about the

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:12.160
<v Speaker 3>changing face of politics.

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<v Speaker 2>In the UK.

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<v Speaker 3>Well now, a government commissioned report recommends legal protections for

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 3>school teachers to stop them being suspended or sacked for

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 3>breaching blasphemy laws. I might add these are blasphemy laws

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 3>that don't actually exist in the UK, but the UK

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 3>has ended up with the facto blasphemy laws because of

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 3>the influence of Muslims in that country. This goes back

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<v Speaker 3>to twenty twenty one, when a school teacher in West

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<v Speaker 3>Yorkshire received numerous death threats after he dared to hold

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 3>up a picture of Mohammed when talking to students about

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 3>the Charlie Ebdo terror attack. Now because of that he

0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 3>was sent into hiding. He was also suspended by the school. Amazingly,

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:56.880
<v Speaker 3>three years later, he and his family are still in

0:32:57.040 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 3>hiding because of death threats. And then last year, four

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 3>boys were suspended from class after having been asked to

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<v Speaker 3>bring a Quran into school for a religious class.

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Apparently they dropped it.

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 3>It got reported that they had burned it and police

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 3>recorded it as a hate incident, when in fact it

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:19.280
<v Speaker 3>was just four boys who'd been a bit clumsy with

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<v Speaker 3>the Quran. Now, a recent survey has found in the

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<v Speaker 3>UK one out of every six school teachers is self

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<v Speaker 3>censoring or changing lessons on religion for fear of being

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 3>accused of blasphemy, and police have been accused of making

0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 3>charges of religious hatred when they know full well it's

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:43.160
<v Speaker 3>not a case of religious hatred, but they're scared of

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<v Speaker 3>upsetting local communities. So you've got this really interesting situation

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 3>in the UK where people are now self censoring out

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 3>of deference to Islam, and we're having to make.

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<v Speaker 2>Laws to protect free speech.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure the laws are going to make much

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<v Speaker 3>difference because people are afraid so much of losing their

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<v Speaker 3>job as being forced into hiding for years at a time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. I mean this is just ridiculous. There should

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 1>be no blasphemy laws.

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<v Speaker 7>Blasphemy as a basic human right. You should be able

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 7>to make fun of whatever you like. And if anything

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:21.480
<v Speaker 7>raises its ugly head and says no, no, no, I'm

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:24.319
<v Speaker 7>above that, you can't touch me. That's the head that

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:27.879
<v Speaker 7>you need to cut off. Because somebody's blasphemy is.

0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Your free speech and vice versa. So as a Christian,

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 1>I would never be like, no one can talk against

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:34.840
<v Speaker 1>my religion.

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<v Speaker 7>How dare you say that about Jesus et cetera, et cetera.

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:40.680
<v Speaker 1>No, go for your life. Firstly, Jesus is a big boy,

0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:41.880
<v Speaker 1>you can look after himself.

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 7>And secondly, that curtails everyone's freedoms. And that's what we

0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 7>see playing out in dictatorship.

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Sir, Thank you very much.

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 7>So that should not be happening in any way, shape

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 7>or form. But like you say, people are self censoring.

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:05.319
<v Speaker 7>This is self preservation knowing that a certain type of

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 7>people who adhere to the Islamic religion will take matters

0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:14.880
<v Speaker 7>into their very violent hands, and the UK, like no

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 7>other place in Europe I would venture, in recent years,

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 7>has seen that violence play out. They've seen beheadings in

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:28.799
<v Speaker 7>the street, They've seen terrible, terrible things, and so naturally

0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:32.480
<v Speaker 7>even the teachers themselves are like, yeah, we are afraid.

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:33.279
<v Speaker 2>You got to say on that.

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 3>We look at the UK and we think, gee, they're

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 3>a long way down the track. Well it's a bit

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:38.640
<v Speaker 3>of a window into our future if we're not careful.

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 2>And we've now got due self.

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 3>Censoring in this country. Different different thing, but same theme.

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 3>We've got people out of concern about what sort of

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 3>reception they will receive because of Islamic extremists are changing

0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 3>their behavior when they ought not.

0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:56.400
<v Speaker 2>We're supposed to be a free country.

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<v Speaker 5>But how good is the UK government commissioning a report

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<v Speaker 5>which presumably they have paid for, to come back and

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<v Speaker 5>tell them to draft laws to fix something that isn't

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:08.359
<v Speaker 5>actually an issue of the law per se, because there

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:11.839
<v Speaker 5>is no existing law that bans blasphemy in the UK.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an issue.

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<v Speaker 5>It's an issue of how the police pursuing these things right,

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<v Speaker 5>and broadly, it's that people feel they need to self

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<v Speaker 5>CeNSE of because people come after them when they do something.

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<v Speaker 5>You can't change that by a stroke of the pen.

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<v Speaker 6>In the law.

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<v Speaker 5>You can say to the teachers, oh, well, you know

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 5>you're protected by the law for saying whatever you want

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<v Speaker 5>in the classroom. But that doesn't stop someone threatening you.

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<v Speaker 5>It doesn't stop someone protesting out the front of the

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<v Speaker 5>classroom or the school. That's the issue, and this doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>agree someone.

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<v Speaker 3>All goes back to when Selmyn Musty was first attacked

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<v Speaker 3>and they put a FATOI threat on him. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>everyone just said, oh, that's bad, instead of standing up

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<v Speaker 3>and saying we will not have this in our country.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to go to a break.

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<v Speaker 3>When we come back, look at what's making news tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 3>including how many failed asylum seekers are still in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>That's coming up in a moment. All right, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 3>Before we get to tomorrow's papers, some breaking news that

0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:09.080
<v Speaker 3>I know will make Liz score It very happy, and

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<v Speaker 3>that Julian Assand has been granted leave by a court

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<v Speaker 3>to appeal his extradition to the United States. Now, of course,

0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:22.359
<v Speaker 3>Assan faces charges of leaking military secrets, so Liz he

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<v Speaker 3>lives to fight military secrets.

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<v Speaker 7>They're called war crimes, okay, well, war crimes, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>No, they've tried again and again to get.

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<v Speaker 7>Him, and once again God is on the side of

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<v Speaker 7>the writeous. I'm telling you, I hope this appeal is successful.

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<v Speaker 7>Of course, he shouldn't be sent to the US. Number one,

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<v Speaker 7>he's already done his time. He's been in Bellmarsh, which

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<v Speaker 7>is a high security prison for the scum of the

0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:52.760
<v Speaker 7>earth type criminals, for what is it, over seven years now, It's.

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous, but he's more than done his time.

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<v Speaker 7>Then there was the seven years at the Ecuadorian embassy

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 7>in which he was locked up like an animal as well.

0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:04.680
<v Speaker 7>That one was of his own doing. But again fleeing

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 7>for his life. The CIA has been busted. You can

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<v Speaker 7>google this yourself. Toying with the idea of epsteining this guy, right,

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<v Speaker 7>So this whole idea of oh no, he should come

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<v Speaker 7>to the States and face trial here.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we know what you guys.

0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 7>Were kind of thinking of doing a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 7>So we're pretty convinced he won't get a fair trial there,

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<v Speaker 7>will he. And let's keep in mind that Manning, who's

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<v Speaker 7>the one who did the leaking to him. Again, something

0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 7>that people don't understand is no hacking went on. Okay,

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 7>Julian Asange did zero hacking and this was shown in

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<v Speaker 7>black and white during Chelsea Manning's court martial. Okay, so

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 7>no hacking occurred. Everything that Chelsea Manning accessed she had

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:57.520
<v Speaker 7>access to and then she sent it to Julian and

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<v Speaker 7>Julian hit post on your war crimes. Once again, if

0:39:02.040 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 7>you don't when your corruption exposed, just try not being corrupt.

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<v Speaker 7>But this guy has not done anything that the New

0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:12.760
<v Speaker 7>York Times and mainstream media throughout the world haven't done,

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<v Speaker 7>and that is the problem that the US have been

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<v Speaker 7>grappling with four years, and.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why they haven't been able to nailhim.

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<v Speaker 3>Caleb, you're happy with this decision or should we just

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<v Speaker 3>get on with the rest of the news.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I will just say briefly that the lead for

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:29.800
<v Speaker 5>appeal has been granted on the basis that the US

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<v Speaker 5>has not given assurance that he could use the First Amendment,

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<v Speaker 5>which of course is the right to free speech, as

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<v Speaker 5>a defense. They've assured that he wouldn't face the death penalty,

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<v Speaker 5>which was the other condition that the UK courts had

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:43.000
<v Speaker 5>previously put.

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<v Speaker 6>On it in March.

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<v Speaker 5>So essentially, what the US is saying is that they

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<v Speaker 5>will not give him the ability to defend himself on

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<v Speaker 5>the basis that what he did was free speech, because

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:54.360
<v Speaker 5>of course he argues that what he did was publishing

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<v Speaker 5>content and that ought to be protected as publishers do

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<v Speaker 5>under free speech. The US is not going to let

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<v Speaker 5>him use that defense. Therefore, the UK is open to

0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:05.920
<v Speaker 5>the idea of him that they've allowed him to work.

0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 7>Because they recognize that is patently unfair. That's what every

0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:13.640
<v Speaker 7>other publisher has done, and he is always called WikiLeaks

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<v Speaker 7>a publisher.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they do.

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:18.000
<v Speaker 3>So it will all continue. Let's get on to Australian

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<v Speaker 3>use the Daily Telegraph. Liz, you've got the front page.

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<v Speaker 1>There, Oh I do.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm so distracted by this marvelous news. Okay, the Daily

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<v Speaker 7>Telegraphed denied just stay anyway. More than sixty thousand of

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<v Speaker 7>eighty thousand failed asylum seekers still in the country have

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<v Speaker 7>been allowed to remain with full work and study rights.

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<v Speaker 1>It can be revealed.

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<v Speaker 7>Government figures revealed that eighty thousand would be refugees who

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<v Speaker 7>originally traveled to Australia on work, study or tourist visas

0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:52.280
<v Speaker 7>and later made failed claims for protection, are still in

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<v Speaker 7>the country.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So why do we bother having standards? Okay? Why

0:40:57.840 --> 0:40:59.400
<v Speaker 1>do we bother having boxes?

0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:04.920
<v Speaker 7>You're supposed to tick to enjoy the privilege it is

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<v Speaker 7>to call.

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Australia home, even if for five minutes. Why do we bother?

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:09.879
<v Speaker 1>Why do we bother?

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:13.959
<v Speaker 7>And what on earth is this government doing to ensure that.

0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:16.320
<v Speaker 1>People who are here are here legally? Nothing?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I can't believe that the dat Telegraph and the

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<v Speaker 5>Daily Telegraph is referring to them as failed asylum seekers.

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<v Speaker 5>They sound to me as though they were quite successful.

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<v Speaker 5>To be perfectly honest, they managed to find their way

0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:31.360
<v Speaker 5>into the country under false pretenses, and then we've allowed

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:33.760
<v Speaker 5>them to stay, to have like a successful venture.

0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:35.400
<v Speaker 2>They stayed.

0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:38.080
<v Speaker 3>But many of them are studying and work and they're

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<v Speaker 3>not failed.

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<v Speaker 6>They're illegal and so angry was your pen that it's

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<v Speaker 6>through it?

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<v Speaker 7>No doubt, no doubt, they're all enjoying the benefits of

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<v Speaker 7>the task that I'm.

0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:48.239
<v Speaker 1>Who they're here.

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 7>No one really not self sustained.

0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:53.319
<v Speaker 5>No wonder we see people trying to ram their way

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<v Speaker 5>in on boats. Some have actually made it to the shore.

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<v Speaker 5>It looks for all money like Australia is open for business,

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<v Speaker 5>do whatever your dan will like. Let's go to the

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<v Speaker 5>advertiser tomorrow where it says it's against generation fail cord

0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 5>delay threatens to blackout Victoria and New South Wales where

0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 5>we heard that before. We are bad neighbors, says the

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:17.760
<v Speaker 5>Adelaide Advertiser of South Australia. South Australia bailing on gas

0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:21.680
<v Speaker 5>production could plunge Victoria into blackouts and a delay in

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:24.920
<v Speaker 5>a new interconnector to New South Wales will put pressure

0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:29.239
<v Speaker 5>on energy supplies this summer. Now, that interconnector to New

0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 5>South Wales. They have been talking about that since before

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:38.440
<v Speaker 5>Kevin Kevin Kevin Rudd, before Mike ran became a Premier

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:41.400
<v Speaker 5>of South Australia. We're talking way back in like the

0:42:41.480 --> 0:42:44.680
<v Speaker 5>late nineties, early two thousand dreams. They were talking about

0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:47.360
<v Speaker 5>the concept of an interconnector to New South Wales.

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<v Speaker 6>It still hasn't happened.

0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:52.240
<v Speaker 5>You had sixteen years of labor, you had four years

0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:52.880
<v Speaker 5>of the libs.

0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 6>Now you've had another two years of labor. Nothing has happened.

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<v Speaker 5>The idea that South Australia is going to give up

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<v Speaker 5>on gas. The state where the whole joint was plunged

0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:07.000
<v Speaker 5>into a blackout because in the middle of a storm

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:10.360
<v Speaker 5>the system short circuited because the renewables didn't work, the

0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:14.439
<v Speaker 5>wind didn't work, and a few power cables fell over.

0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:17.520
<v Speaker 5>So then they decided, well, we need a backup mechanism.

0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:19.239
<v Speaker 5>So what are we going to do. We're going to

0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 5>go out and buy a whole bunch of diesel generators

0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:25.400
<v Speaker 5>to keep the system going when the renewables don't work

0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:29.160
<v Speaker 5>and they don't want to use gas, which is infinitely cleaner,

0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:31.279
<v Speaker 5>to keep the country powered up.

0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:32.680
<v Speaker 6>What has happened to.

0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:34.400
<v Speaker 3>The world, And I mean the problem is we're getting

0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:37.200
<v Speaker 3>rid of fossil fuels before we've got the transmission lines

0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:41.000
<v Speaker 3>and the renewable projects in place to give us electricity.

0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:43.000
<v Speaker 3>So it's just a complete balls up on every level.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go to the front page of tomorrow's Herald Sun

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<v Speaker 3>end class Fast UNI urged to bring in police and

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<v Speaker 3>forcibly remove Propellestindian activists occupying campus building, calling the cops,

0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:57.879
<v Speaker 3>reads the headline. The University of Melbourne is being urged

0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:01.400
<v Speaker 3>to call in police to evict a Propellerstinye encampment that

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:04.840
<v Speaker 3>has occupied a faculty building for almost a week, ignoring

0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 3>a final demand to leave from the vice chancellor.

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<v Speaker 2>The police are now on stand by.

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<v Speaker 3>I suppose we saw what happened in the United States

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:17.399
<v Speaker 3>where it was mayhem, tear gas was used, et cetera,

0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:17.880
<v Speaker 3>et cetera.

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:20.560
<v Speaker 2>I suspect that's what students actually want.

0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:22.400
<v Speaker 1>More dramatic.

0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:25.960
<v Speaker 3>The Herald s soners reporting that these students are already rehearsing,

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<v Speaker 3>getting their picket lines ready to resist police. And they

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:32.120
<v Speaker 3>put up a sign get this that's since been taken down,

0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:38.000
<v Speaker 3>but the sign said helll zone, no pigs. You've got

0:44:38.760 --> 0:44:43.399
<v Speaker 3>there since been removed. But I mean, these student protesters,

0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:47.560
<v Speaker 3>they are gagging for a fight with police.

0:44:48.160 --> 0:44:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Suspect that's what will have to happen.

0:44:50.160 --> 0:44:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Well, here's here's hoping they.

0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:55.480
<v Speaker 5>Do realize that that Jews don't come into contact with

0:44:55.560 --> 0:44:58.239
<v Speaker 5>pigs either, don't they. I mean, if you told them that,

0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:00.480
<v Speaker 5>maybe they'd think that there was something wrong with it.

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:05.640
<v Speaker 6>We couldn't pop honor. But you know, oh, they've been

0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:06.640
<v Speaker 6>urged to call in.

0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 5>I mean, if you have to urge the university to

0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:12.120
<v Speaker 5>call in police after it's been if you had someone

0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:15.240
<v Speaker 5>camping on your front lawn for any more than twenty minutes,

0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:17.360
<v Speaker 5>do you reckon, you'd hesit take to call the police.

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:20.280
<v Speaker 3>Well, the Vice Chancellors issued these protesters with a letter

0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:23.040
<v Speaker 3>advice about camping.

0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised they're still there.

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Speaker 3>Good permit and as well that they're breaching safety regulations

0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:31.200
<v Speaker 3>because apparently some of the fire exits in the building

0:45:31.239 --> 0:45:34.040
<v Speaker 3>you're occupying have been blocked and so they need to

0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:34.439
<v Speaker 3>get out.

0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:37.920
<v Speaker 2>So excuse me, excuse the universe.

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:41.160
<v Speaker 5>Would you jolly well mind moving off my front lawn side, you.

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<v Speaker 6>Know, rub baggering up where I put down the new seas,

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<v Speaker 6>you don't move on within the next five minutes, that

0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:48.200
<v Speaker 6>it'll be lovely, you know. That's sort of how they're

0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:48.640
<v Speaker 6>treating them.

0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Is that's pretty good.

0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I know, marveless. On the front page of the Mercury,

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<v Speaker 1>now Greens.

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<v Speaker 7>Fight beggar Van The Greens will again move to repeal

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:03.600
<v Speaker 7>the ban on begging, saying the state is the last

0:46:03.600 --> 0:46:08.839
<v Speaker 7>Australian jurisdiction where it remains a criminal offense. It goes

0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:11.960
<v Speaker 7>on to talk about the Police Offenses Act and basically

0:46:12.080 --> 0:46:15.520
<v Speaker 7>describes what you or I would call well, I don't know,

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:18.200
<v Speaker 7>not so much busking, but I know if you walk.

0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:20.360
<v Speaker 1>Through the Sydney CBD.

0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:23.000
<v Speaker 7>There's the odd person sitting out the front of a

0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:26.600
<v Speaker 7>store too, with like a sign saying help me.

0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Some of them are like.

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<v Speaker 3>Not begging, like performing some sort of art or some

0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:33.640
<v Speaker 3>sort of a building.

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<v Speaker 7>I say busking, Yes, sorry buskers.

0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Basically the who knew.

0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:46.800
<v Speaker 7>That Tasmanians still have this outlaw and so someone can't

0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:49.600
<v Speaker 7>just sit around being like I'm poor, Like, throw me

0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:50.640
<v Speaker 7>a few extra if.

0:46:50.560 --> 0:46:53.759
<v Speaker 3>You've got it well, I mean, the funny thing about

0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:56.440
<v Speaker 3>this is if you are charged with begging in Tasmania,

0:46:56.480 --> 0:46:57.760
<v Speaker 3>it's seven hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>You've got to come big.

0:47:07.360 --> 0:47:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Card.

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<v Speaker 5>Tell me that they don't have people begging in Hobart

0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:12.520
<v Speaker 5>and lawn system and like, you know, it does seem

0:47:12.560 --> 0:47:15.560
<v Speaker 5>like a bit of a ridiculous law. I'm I'm, I

0:47:15.600 --> 0:47:18.480
<v Speaker 5>don't like begging and I don't give money to beggars

0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:21.000
<v Speaker 5>because I think it encourages them to stay on the street.

0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:21.560
<v Speaker 6>They'd be matching.

0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:23.759
<v Speaker 7>I thought it was just because you're heartless and you

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:25.840
<v Speaker 7>don't care about people who are less well off than you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's that too, but you know, there would be

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<v Speaker 5>much better to use actual services to help these people.

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<v Speaker 6>And but you know, I mean, if they're going to beg.

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<v Speaker 6>They're going to beg. I don't think you can stop it.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to go to a break when we come back.

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<v Speaker 3>I've totally forgotten what we're talking about. What are we

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<v Speaker 3>talking about? Oh, yes, labor MPs. They want to stop

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<v Speaker 3>us eating meat and eat insects instead.

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<v Speaker 2>That's coming up.

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<v Speaker 6>Got a beg, that's what you've got to do.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's just not the World Economic Forum. Labor don't

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<v Speaker 3>want us to eat meat either. Six West Australian labor

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<v Speaker 3>MPs want us to stop eating meat and instead start

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<v Speaker 3>eating insects and bacteria. Ben Fordham explains the reason they

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<v Speaker 3>think we won't agree to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a listen to this.

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<v Speaker 9>This is not a joke. The labor MPs from WA

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<v Speaker 9>reckon we won't ditch meat for insects and algae because

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<v Speaker 9>of our toxic masculinity. Can you believe this? What planet

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<v Speaker 9>are they living on? You've got to remind yourself that

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<v Speaker 9>these MPs who want us all to eat insects are

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<v Speaker 9>members of the working class Labor Party. The true believers

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<v Speaker 9>are becoming bug eaters. That now the CSIRO has been

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<v Speaker 9>pushing this message for years. In twenty twenty one, they

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<v Speaker 9>released a paper called four reasons that insects could be

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<v Speaker 9>a staple in Aussie diets, from zesty tree ants to

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<v Speaker 9>peanut buttery bogong moths. The CSIRO even used a photo

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<v Speaker 9>in that report showing a kid tucking into worms on

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<v Speaker 9>toast and he'd already taken a bite out of it.

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<v Speaker 9>The insect eaters at the CSIRO argue that if we

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<v Speaker 9>want us the planet, we're going to have to replace

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<v Speaker 9>burgers with bugs.

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<v Speaker 3>Caleb, But I know you love a good steak. Is

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<v Speaker 3>that just your toxic masculinity showing?

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, and particularly when it's paired with red wine?

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<v Speaker 6>But you know, I actually.

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<v Speaker 5>Wouldn't mind trying a peanut buttery bogong moth.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm willing to do it at once.

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<v Speaker 1>Sell it, I'm willing to do it once.

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<v Speaker 2>You must stick around. Coming up in just a moment,

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<v Speaker 2>It's the Rita Pennehy Show.