Speaker 1: I want the fairy tale. I want the prince charming
Speaker 1: she How do.
Speaker 2: I put this? Isn't a fan of my kissing style.
Speaker 1: Boyfriend and girlfriend for about twelve hours. He's in a
Speaker 1: trash bin. He's non recyclable. Catching them up.
Speaker 2: I love being love. I love love.
Speaker 3: On today's episode of Where's Your Head At, we will
Speaker 3: be telling you how to make your crush obsessed with you.
Speaker 2: You should always be your true, authentic self, but try
Speaker 2: these little tips and psychological tricks to get your next crush.
Speaker 3: Keen on you two stick around to hear some toxic
Speaker 3: and non toxic ways to master the law of attraction.
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Speaker 3: Is a podcast that talks all things relationships, breakups, reality TV,
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Speaker 1: That is one large coffee or drinking this morning? You're
Speaker 1: feeling extra tired?
Speaker 2: Yeah I am, but a big boy needs a big coffee,
Speaker 2: I reckon. Thanks for pointing out. Is it a big
Speaker 2: cup or is it a small hand or is.
Speaker 1: It a Oh my god? The comfort the self compliments
Speaker 1: have started already. How are you this morning?
Speaker 2: Well, let's cut the formalities. Anna, let's cut the little
Speaker 2: chit chat. I'm not in a good place, goes away
Speaker 2: on Friday and she has no like this is the one.
Speaker 2: This is a big one.
Speaker 3: So this is the one where she has no service,
Speaker 3: Like she can't message you. No, I still can't wrap
Speaker 3: my head around that, Like how are we living in
Speaker 3: this day and age?
Speaker 1: And she's gonna have no reception.
Speaker 2: Well, she's tracking the Larapinter Trail for the Hunger Project charity.
Speaker 2: So she's raised five grand and they're going to walk
Speaker 2: the larap Inter Trail.
Speaker 1: Good, what a great thing to do.
Speaker 2: Fifteen kilometers a day. They're camping out under the stars.
Speaker 2: They're really like it's a real like come to Jesus
Speaker 2: sort of black time, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Was she doing it with her work?
Speaker 2: So the Hunger Project is with lack to Cuba, who
Speaker 2: she works for, and they like they take all the
Speaker 2: staff on this side.
Speaker 1: So is this compulsory?
Speaker 2: No, it's not. She doesn't have to do this, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: which is random as well. Yeah, so she actually went
Speaker 2: through like they actually not cast, but they interview you
Speaker 2: to see like who they're going to take on. You
Speaker 2: have to be eligible for it, you have to work
Speaker 2: there for three years, so there's like a vigorous like
Speaker 2: weeding process to get the pretenders out. Wow. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm gonna have a little bit of
Speaker 2: a loane time me time. I won't be able to
Speaker 2: contact her. There'll be no cuddle monster, there'll be no Heaven.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a.
Speaker 1: Rough it's gonna be a bleak week.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be And you're away as well, aren't you.
Speaker 2: You're in Baly, So I've got both my women away
Speaker 2: from me. I'm gonna be fucking I don't know who
Speaker 2: I'm going to be venturing to.
Speaker 1: Go to be like rocking in the corner by the
Speaker 1: end of the week, being.
Speaker 2: Like what's happening, Mickey's on night duty. I'm fucked.
Speaker 3: You can still contact me. I will be around, like
Speaker 3: you know, from certain hours. I mean, no contact with
Speaker 3: your partner. That's pretty full on, Like I wouldn't even
Speaker 3: be looking like doing that. Absolutely not like that's a
Speaker 3: strong note from me, But I mean it's for a
Speaker 3: great cause.
Speaker 1: Good on her.
Speaker 3: We wish her all the best for the trail, and
Speaker 3: I think she's gonna smash it. She's probably gonna come
Speaker 3: back absolutely wrecked, like you're gonna be on massage duty.
Speaker 2: Don't say that she hears.
Speaker 3: This in all serious and speaking about Bali, I am
Speaker 3: gonna be in Bali extremely soon.
Speaker 1: I am getting.
Speaker 3: Really clean and attached to Michael because I know that
Speaker 3: I'm not going to be with him soon. So, like
Speaker 3: we have become obsessed with each other. Like we literally
Speaker 3: will like lie on the couch and just be cuddling
Speaker 3: at each other, really tired and like you know.
Speaker 1: Like all of that cringey stuff.
Speaker 3: Like we're just like obsessed at the moment, like we're
Speaker 3: peaking at a ten.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I do that, I'm probably the opficite.
Speaker 2: I'll probably distance myself to get ready for it, like
Speaker 2: to get ready for that that's toxic. Well it helps
Speaker 2: me survive, So I don't know. If that's toxic, then
Speaker 2: I'm toxic.
Speaker 3: Well look on that note, I think it's time to
Speaker 3: talk about how to make people obsessed with you in
Speaker 3: a toxic and a non toxic way. Let's do it, Okay, Matt,
Speaker 3: you know the reason why we're doing this episode, and
Speaker 3: it's because one of my friends who's single is having
Speaker 3: a really tough time at the moment dating, Like.
Speaker 1: We remember how shit it was dating, Oh suck.
Speaker 3: You know, She's just gone through this kind of like
Speaker 3: weird like situation where she's feeling a little bit heartbroken
Speaker 3: and she was like, you know what I need, Anna,
Speaker 3: I just need a guy to be obsessed with me.
Speaker 1: How do I make a guy obsessed with you?
Speaker 3: And I was like, you know what, this is a
Speaker 3: great episode for a podcast and we want to hear
Speaker 3: a male perspective of this.
Speaker 1: So we're going to ask.
Speaker 3: You, Matt, just tell us what makes the guy obsessed
Speaker 3: with you?
Speaker 2: Do you want the long answer or the short answer?
Speaker 1: Give us, give us it all any details out?
Speaker 2: Okay, So what makes me obsessed with the girl? I
Speaker 2: like a girl that's like, I like a girl's confident.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: Love confidence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, confidence is key. So like if they're like coming
Speaker 2: in confident and like they know what they've got, Like
Speaker 2: I'm sucker for that. Like, yeah, sucker for that.
Speaker 3: So you think, like fake it till you make it.
Speaker 3: So if you are feeling insecure, just like you know.
Speaker 2: Like eventually show your vulnerable side. But if this is
Speaker 2: unlike when you first meet someone, yeah, you have to.
Speaker 2: I reckon, come across confident.
Speaker 1: I'll have a bit of a fake it till you
Speaker 1: make it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll do it. What else, I don't put a
Speaker 2: tight little number on and look to me when you
Speaker 2: first meet a girl, Yeah, I think the confidence is key.
Speaker 2: Being confident means that, like, also, you're like, you're strong
Speaker 2: and independent, You've got like your whole life going on,
Speaker 2: So you can see that this girl like they have
Speaker 2: it going on and they're not relying on you to
Speaker 2: help them find themselves sort of thing. So like you're
Speaker 2: coming in to this girl's life and you're you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, So you don't want to feel like if
Speaker 3: you sat dating someone and you're on date two, that
Speaker 3: you are their whole life. Like like if if you're like, hey,
Speaker 3: do you want to catch up, they might be like, oh,
Speaker 3: I've got work, Oh i've got plans, Oh I've got
Speaker 3: a hobby.
Speaker 1: So their life does not revolve around you essentially.
Speaker 2: And then in saying that, that can mean that they're
Speaker 2: not desperate. So then obviously if someone comes across desperate,
Speaker 2: that's a bit of a turn off as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so someone like shows that they like you
Speaker 3: too much. You're like, nah, I've already got you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, tapping out.
Speaker 2: But in saying that, though, like what happened with Jen
Speaker 2: and I where you were like you factuated with each
Speaker 2: other straight away and hung out and I was.
Speaker 3: Obsessed with But you had six years of four play
Speaker 3: via Instagram likes I did.
Speaker 2: I had four years, six years of just fucking yeah,
Speaker 2: just like getting.
Speaker 1: Rejected just like what if?
Speaker 2: Okay, so that makes yeah, that makes sense there, that
Speaker 2: makes sense. But I finally got it. I was there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so okay, so yeah, keep them in your DM. So
Speaker 2: six years.
Speaker 1: That's to be cool. Playing the long GWG.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I think about like me and Michael, like
Speaker 3: we were like instantaneously obsessed with each other. But I
Speaker 3: actually spoke to Michael and I was like, hey, like
Speaker 3: we're doing an episode on like being obsessed with each other,
Speaker 3: Like what made you obsess with me? And Michael? The
Speaker 3: first thing that he said was your bejas.
Speaker 2: I was actually gonna list that, you know, I was
Speaker 2: actually gonna say that, but I was like, I don't
Speaker 2: I don't think that would be so appropriate straight away
Speaker 2: off the bat. But but thank you Michael for bringing
Speaker 2: that up. Yes, give a wicked head job.
Speaker 1: But then the.
Speaker 3: Second thing that he said, when he was like Nana
Speaker 3: in all seriousness, he was like, how much fun we
Speaker 3: had together just made me so obsessed with you, because,
Speaker 3: like he said, like when he met me, I was
Speaker 3: just like in such a carefree kind of like wanting
Speaker 3: to have fun, just like grabbing life by both hands
Speaker 3: and just being like, let's you know, the world is
Speaker 3: our oyster, we can do whatever, and just that positive,
Speaker 3: happy type of vibe. And he said that really drew
Speaker 3: me to you. So I mean that's what Michael initially
Speaker 3: past the BJ found that drew him in.
Speaker 2: Do you reckon You were yourself around Michael straightaway?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think that's so important.
Speaker 1: So important.
Speaker 3: You never want to put up this like facade of
Speaker 3: like I like you, you basically don't want to pretend
Speaker 3: to be someone else because you can't continue to be
Speaker 3: someone else the.
Speaker 2: Whole time, the whole time, like you're Yeah, but like
Speaker 2: I felt like I was myself around gen. I felt
Speaker 2: like I could be myself and I could, like like
Speaker 2: I said, we like chatted till like four or three
Speaker 2: am in the morning, Like I've never done that with
Speaker 2: a girl. I'd never been like that with someone like
Speaker 2: being truly myself.
Speaker 3: Isn't it interesting that with both of our partners at
Speaker 3: the moment on our very first day, we actually ended
Speaker 3: up like the date was so prolonged and we ended
Speaker 3: up staying up to like three am and the warning
Speaker 3: chatting with them. Like I think that's like a strong
Speaker 3: sign if you can just chat to people and like
Speaker 3: have fun and enjoy their company.
Speaker 1: Like you know, we were both like blind on these dates.
Speaker 3: It's still like, I guess we didn't want the date
Speaker 3: to end, so we were like, let's have a few drinks,
Speaker 3: let's chat, let's have fun. And I think that is
Speaker 3: like a really great sign when you first meet someone.
Speaker 3: But in saying that, after our first day, so after
Speaker 3: Michael and I's first date, he had messaged me here
Speaker 3: and there, like he had replied to some of my stories.
Speaker 3: You know, he'd liked a few of my Instagram photos,
Speaker 3: which I was all over. I was like, as he
Speaker 3: liked it, yet, you know, you know when you first talk.
Speaker 2: Or just like oh no, you were posting photos for
Speaker 2: him to see if he liked it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like you know, you know, like you get like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, let's just say you get a thousand
Speaker 3: likes and the only one you care about is the
Speaker 3: person who you're seeing.
Speaker 1: It was like a vat vie Do.
Speaker 2: You remember those days? And then you'd see if they'd
Speaker 2: viewed your story or not. Oh yeah, stories were like
Speaker 2: directly put up for them to see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they haven't watched it, and you're like
Speaker 1: what are they doing? Oh?
Speaker 3: But anyway, after our second date, we had kind of
Speaker 3: like had like little bits of interaction here and there,
Speaker 3: but I remember he hadn't asked me on a second
Speaker 3: date yet, and I was like, that was like the
Speaker 3: best date of my life, and like, yes, he's interacted
Speaker 3: with me here and there, but like, why has this
Speaker 3: guy not asked me out on a second date? Like
Speaker 3: I'm so confused, Like he was acting obsessed with me,
Speaker 3: I was acting obsessed with him.
Speaker 1: Was I reading the room wrong?
Speaker 3: Then I started to doubt myself and then I was like, no,
Speaker 3: I know it was a great date. So I actually
Speaker 3: messaged him and I was like I literally said, so
Speaker 3: are you taking me out on a second date or what?
Speaker 1: Question?
Speaker 2: Mark confidence?
Speaker 1: And then his.
Speaker 3: Response was like I was literally just about to ask you.
Speaker 3: I wanted to see if you were free on Thursday,
Speaker 3: and I was like, perfect, lock it in.
Speaker 2: Do you know why he waited so long? Has he
Speaker 2: told you are?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So he was like he was under the impression that
Speaker 3: like he was like, yeah, so, I think he was
Speaker 3: kind of trying to play a little bit hard to
Speaker 3: get because he was still unsure of like where my
Speaker 3: head was at, and so yeah, he.
Speaker 1: Was like trying to play it a bit cool.
Speaker 3: But then he reckons that after I sent that text
Speaker 3: message being like, you know, are you going to ask
Speaker 3: me out on a date or what are you going
Speaker 3: to ask me on a second date or what. From
Speaker 3: that moment on, he was like, fuck it, I think
Speaker 3: she's obsessed with me.
Speaker 1: I'm just going to act completely all in.
Speaker 3: And you know, like he was like messaging me at
Speaker 3: like midnight when he was out with his friends, like
Speaker 3: what are you up to?
Speaker 1: What are you doing?
Speaker 3: Like always messaging me, like especially if he was drinking
Speaker 3: so and then it just kind of like went from them.
Speaker 2: That is a sign if a guy's messaging you while
Speaker 2: he's out with these mates, is it? Yeah, I reckon
Speaker 2: because you're not gonna put you like you're out like
Speaker 2: in your single technically.
Speaker 1: And there's other girls there's other girls.
Speaker 2: And you're messaging.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good sign unless he's.
Speaker 2: Just striking out and he knows that he's gone.
Speaker 3: But yeah, but if he's messaging you early in the night,
Speaker 3: through the whole yeah yeah. If it's like, what time
Speaker 3: do you reckon? If it's past like ten o'clock, then
Speaker 3: it could be like a bit of a strikeout situation.
Speaker 1: Even nine, No.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you later. Twelve.
Speaker 3: Oh so twelve okay, right, okay, that's striking out, ladies.
Speaker 1: In case you're wondering.
Speaker 2: I've got a bit of don't don't count me out
Speaker 2: at nine or ten? What I wouldn't count me out?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: What's a fail where you're like this is a turn off,
Speaker 3: Like I'm not going to be obsessed with you now,
Speaker 3: Like the thing I mean, I'm asking you this question,
Speaker 3: but I'm also answering at the same time, Like guys,
Speaker 3: when I'm like first art, when I first start seeing
Speaker 3: a guy, they can do the smallest things and it
Speaker 3: just gives me the eck and I'm out, So like
Speaker 3: what gives you the eck?
Speaker 2: Okay? It's the first thing comes to mind, is like
Speaker 2: if they try to be like sexy and it just
Speaker 2: fucking fails.
Speaker 1: Or they try like what like when they kiss or
Speaker 1: they try.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've like you know, like they bite their lips
Speaker 2: or something. It's just not like they're trying to overdo it.
Speaker 2: And then you're just like okay, so not too full
Speaker 2: of not too full. I thinel like a.
Speaker 1: Subtle bite of the lip could be like a little
Speaker 1: bit hot.
Speaker 3: Like what's that thing that they tell you to do
Speaker 3: to like look at a guy in the eye then
Speaker 3: look down at his What is it?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: They tell you to look look at a guy in
Speaker 3: the eyes like intently.
Speaker 2: Are you trying it on you?
Speaker 1: What he means relationships?
Speaker 2: Just see if it okay?
Speaker 3: So they tell you to like I'm not doing it,
Speaker 3: I'm just explaining how.
Speaker 2: To I'm just sitting here.
Speaker 3: I feel like I feel uncomfortable now, but anyway, I'm
Speaker 3: not just.
Speaker 1: Relaxed, okay.
Speaker 3: So basically, they tell you to look at a guy
Speaker 3: in the eye like intently, and then you look down
Speaker 3: at their mouth and then you can like bite your
Speaker 3: own lip and then look back up at them with
Speaker 3: like a little bit of a snack.
Speaker 1: Do you think that would work?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I never seen it done.
Speaker 3: But maybe yeah, in a subtle way. I think sometimes
Speaker 3: like girls.
Speaker 2: Can do it, isn't it left to right eye?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Maybe it is?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think maybe like left eye, right eye mouth
Speaker 3: and then like look back.
Speaker 2: Up, okay, ladies that are listening. And it did not
Speaker 2: work on me then with Anna, but I didn't do it.
Speaker 2: But if it works with someone else, well, how do
Speaker 2: you know that you've made a guy obsessed with the manna?
Speaker 2: Like what gives it away that they just?
Speaker 3: I think when you know they're regularly messaging you. I mean,
Speaker 3: I have this rule, and you know how stubborn I am,
Speaker 3: so like when I make a rule, I followed the rules.
Speaker 3: I have this rule where like if I'm seeing a guy,
Speaker 3: I won't message them first, so like as soon as
Speaker 3: they message me, I'll just be totally normal. Like I
Speaker 3: won't like wait to text them back. I'll maybe wait
Speaker 3: like ten minutes or something. So I'm not like fully
Speaker 3: jumping on that bandwagon as soon as they messaged me.
Speaker 3: But like, yeah, like I probably like if I was
Speaker 3: seeing a guy for the first say, three weeks, I
Speaker 3: probably would message them first. So I can kind of
Speaker 3: get a gauge about how much they're thinking about me,
Speaker 3: because if I'm not messaging them, then they know they.
Speaker 1: Know if they want to talk to me, they're gonna have.
Speaker 3: To reach out. But then as soon as they reach out,
Speaker 3: it's like totally normal. I'm like, how's your day going,
Speaker 3: da da da, Like ask some questions.
Speaker 2: I hate that. What happens if they're playing games and
Speaker 2: you guys are having like a massive stalemate and no
Speaker 2: one's messaging anyone.
Speaker 3: Well then it's just not for me because I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: if you're not willing to put in the hard yards,
Speaker 3: like you.
Speaker 2: Don't get the hard you don't get the hard work,
Speaker 2: you get it.
Speaker 1: Okay, both look down the camera lands.
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is the thing that you're meant to do.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you look down.
Speaker 2: So we're going to try this for the people who
Speaker 2: are watching.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna look down, look up. Bite your lip.
Speaker 1: That was smoldering.
Speaker 2: So if you watch that, girls, I'm sorry, I am taken,
Speaker 2: but I've just fallen in love with me. But look
Speaker 2: at Emma behind the camera's flushing.
Speaker 1: I thinks everyone's going in love with him. But how
Speaker 1: do you know a girl's obsessed with you?
Speaker 2: Matt just say like hanging out out the front of
Speaker 2: my house waiting for me to leave talk to me,
Speaker 2: just all that sort of stuff. No again, in this
Speaker 2: day and age, it comes down to like messaging, I reckon,
Speaker 2: but they're prompt messages. If anyone says they missed your
Speaker 2: message or they're too VISI shit, yeah, they're fucking lying.
Speaker 3: It's such trash, Like no one's missing a message. And
Speaker 3: especially if you like someone that is like you're like
Speaker 3: all encompassed in that, so you're absolutely not missing a message.
Speaker 3: If someone hasn't replied to you in twelve hours, it
Speaker 3: means that they don't like you. And I think that
Speaker 3: there's probably like zero point zero one percent of a
Speaker 3: chance that they do like you. And it actually is
Speaker 3: a genuine mistake. Like it's never a genuine mistake, is it. No.
Speaker 2: I remember I was seeing this girl and I will
Speaker 2: like I was thought she was a vibe. I thought
Speaker 2: she was okay. She would take literally like three to
Speaker 2: two hours for reply to messages, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: I get it. Three to two two, two to three
Speaker 2: hours to reply to my messages and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: I get it. I'm like, I'm not your main priority.
Speaker 2: There's some other dudes. Probably I'm like, all right, yeah,
Speaker 2: done with this, you know next, thank you next. And
Speaker 2: then as I weaned off my replies because I'm a
Speaker 2: pretty prompt replier, like I don't fuck around, I don't
Speaker 2: play games. So when as I weaved off and I
Speaker 2: gave her two to three hours, four hours, you know,
Speaker 2: like that, her replies were coming in quick heavy, she
Speaker 2: was organizing dates. She was likeless, do this, and I
Speaker 2: just yeah, I just go sit her.
Speaker 3: In the end, you just like you know what, Like
Speaker 3: people say, like it's good to play games, but at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, if you're right for each other,
Speaker 3: there really is.
Speaker 1: No need for games.
Speaker 3: If you're your authentic self, they're their authentic self, it's
Speaker 3: gonna match. If you put on this like fake persona,
Speaker 3: you're attracting someone to you that actually isn't you. So
Speaker 3: it's just you're wasting everyone time. I think, like the
Speaker 3: thing that scared me the most when I was single
Speaker 3: is that like I would do one thing and it
Speaker 3: could put the right person off. So we are going
Speaker 3: to dive into toxic and non toxic ways to make
Speaker 3: the right person of ze.
Speaker 1: Let's jump in.
Speaker 2: Okay, So We're going to start off with the boring,
Speaker 2: non toxic ways. I reckon earn us.
Speaker 3: So, if you're why do you love toxic so much?
Speaker 3: Like I just have to ask you before we jump
Speaker 3: into this.
Speaker 2: I like to feel like the old me like toxic, true,
Speaker 2: the old me, dude. And to be honest, I just
Speaker 2: I liked it was spicy. It was just you know,
Speaker 2: it kept me on my torots, kept me guessing, Yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe I'm the problem.
Speaker 1: I think you're the drama. Maybe drama.
Speaker 2: Maybe I was a problem. No, look yeah, look it
Speaker 2: just was. It was different.
Speaker 3: It's a bit of fun. I think you like toxic
Speaker 3: when you're not serious about someone. I think as soon
Speaker 3: as you're serious, you're like, Okay, cut the bs, like
Speaker 3: where are we at?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's going on? Don't let my anxiety peak at
Speaker 2: a thousand thinking about what's next?
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: Well, look, there's many ways to make someone obsessed with you.
Speaker 3: We're going to start off with the Ben Franklin effect.
Speaker 3: We've spoken about this on our podcast before. It's when
Speaker 3: you ask someone to do favors for you. Have you
Speaker 3: ever done a favorite for.
Speaker 2: Someone that I would? I think I would when I
Speaker 2: would be talking to someone or trying to get them
Speaker 2: obsessed with me. I feel like you do favors just naturally.
Speaker 2: I feel, don't you reckon, Have you had a guy,
Speaker 2: I just do favors for you, like they go out
Speaker 2: of their way to do stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Like, I think if a guy likes you, they're
Speaker 3: definitely like trying to impress you. In One of the
Speaker 3: ways to do that is, I guess to like, I
Speaker 3: don't know, fix your blinds, you know.
Speaker 2: Like Jen, when I went to her house when we
Speaker 2: first started seeing each other at her apartment, the light
Speaker 2: wasn't working in her bedroom, so apparently her actually tried
Speaker 2: to do it or something like that, So I was like,
Speaker 2: all right, so I took it. I went to Coles
Speaker 2: and I bought one, and then I came back and
Speaker 2: it was the wrong one, so I had to go again,
Speaker 2: and I did all this stuff. So that was like
Speaker 2: a favor like when I Yeah, when I like a girl,
Speaker 2: I do favors for him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that that's kind of what the
Speaker 3: study has kind of showed us that people tend to
Speaker 3: like people more who do favors for them, even if
Speaker 3: initially they didn't like them as much. So maybe Jen
Speaker 3: didn't like you as much, and then you fixed the
Speaker 3: light bulb and she was like, Okay, this guy's.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, he's doing he's tall, he's handy, he's handsome.
Speaker 2: That as well. We speaking of handsome, don't be afraid
Speaker 2: to compliment them.
Speaker 3: I knew this is gonna come up. Mister, I love
Speaker 3: a compliment. He had to put it in there, and
Speaker 3: you know what, It's true, Like when you get a compliment,
Speaker 3: it does kind of like make you like people maybe
Speaker 3: a little bit more.
Speaker 2: I know for a fact that if I'm given one compliment,
Speaker 2: it sits with me for hours. Like I'll be driving
Speaker 2: and I'll be like, oh, yeah, I am here, Oh
Speaker 2: I was good at that.
Speaker 1: It's the best compliment you've been given.
Speaker 3: Let me just check my notes, because you write them
Speaker 3: all down to remind yourself when you're in anxiety.
Speaker 2: Best compliment I've ever been given? What you are too
Speaker 2: good looking to model for this brand?
Speaker 3: That's that sounds like a backhanded compliment.
Speaker 1: If I've ever heard one, they're like, fuck.
Speaker 2: Up, that actually did happen to me? So that's not
Speaker 2: a lie?
Speaker 3: Okay, prolonged eye contact. I think this one is so underrated.
Speaker 3: Having good eye contact is really attractive and it shows confidence.
Speaker 2: It does. Yeah, you bring us up on this all
Speaker 2: the time that when you keep our eye contact off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like even when we do the podcast, it just
Speaker 3: like connects you. So you kind of like are on
Speaker 3: a similar wavelength.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And the eyes are the window to the soul.
Speaker 2: If you you look straight in their eyes, you can
Speaker 2: see what they're about.
Speaker 3: The way that's sering me right now is like seriously
Speaker 3: concerning using someone's name.
Speaker 1: Have you heard of this one?
Speaker 2: No? I haven't, Anna, can you tell me more? Anna?
Speaker 3: Kay?
Speaker 1: I get what you're doing.
Speaker 3: So hearing your name said by someone is actually a
Speaker 3: bit of an ego boost, you know. It kind of
Speaker 3: makes you think they remember my name firstly, kind of
Speaker 3: gives you a little bit of extra confidence, and studies
Speaker 3: have actually shown that hearing your own name has a
Speaker 3: unique effect on brain activation.
Speaker 2: So what does it do? It makes you think that
Speaker 2: this person likes you a lot more, makes you feel
Speaker 2: more important to them, makes you think that they're they
Speaker 2: care about you and they've actually taken the time to
Speaker 2: get to know you in a way like what your
Speaker 2: name is?
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And if you want to return the favor,
Speaker 3: mirroring is actually a really great way to make someone
Speaker 3: obsess with you.
Speaker 2: I love this one. I love when Jen picks up
Speaker 2: on my like what I say, my sayings and all
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff. Gestures, yeah, gestures. I reckon, that's
Speaker 2: so funny. And like I'll be doing something and then
Speaker 2: I'll hear say something that I say all the time
Speaker 2: and I'm like, hey, you got that from me. I'm like,
Speaker 2: it's fine, Yeah, I reckon, that's hot. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But also like as well, like when you are like
Speaker 3: with people a lot, like we pick up each other's
Speaker 3: things as well. I mean, what was it that I
Speaker 3: used to say a lot? Yeah, yeah, I used to
Speaker 3: say unreal as well. So like I think it's also
Speaker 3: like when you're spending lots of time with people, then
Speaker 3: slow subconsciously, yeah, subconsciously, you start mirroring them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't be scared to show them your flaw. So
Speaker 2: I reckon that, Like I said before, don't jump into
Speaker 2: this straightaway. I mean, I would never have had a
Speaker 2: girlfriend in my life if I show them my flaws.
Speaker 2: We spoke about catfishing before. Jen sometimes says, you catfish.
Speaker 1: Me, What do you mean you think you cat.
Speaker 2: She goes I just didn't realize how like, you know,
Speaker 2: just my quirky, real full quirky side.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and like we're all a bit quirky,
Speaker 3: so like I think it's something that we kind of
Speaker 3: hiden the beginning to a certain degree.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I feel.
Speaker 3: Like I was like pretty authentic with who I was
Speaker 3: pretty early on. But of course, like I wasn't like
Speaker 3: a full blown, like crazy person at the start of
Speaker 3: my relationship as opposed to now. But yeah, like slowly,
Speaker 3: as those layers get peeled back, it's nice to be like, ah, you.
Speaker 1: Know, it's something that can be.
Speaker 3: Seen as a flaw is actually really intriguing and really
Speaker 3: like pulls you in, And you know, it's kind of
Speaker 3: nice to be like not everyone sees this side of you,
Speaker 3: and I'm lucky enough to be able to peel back
Speaker 3: those layers.
Speaker 2: Like we said, you get to be yourself around them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I pretend to be the joker to gen like do
Speaker 2: like the laugh and then like, yeah, she gets really
Speaker 2: weaked out, and then like I sort of like stroke
Speaker 2: her face and she just like sits there like what the.
Speaker 3: Fuck I mean, You're kind of pulling back the layers.
Speaker 3: For the podcast, I mean, you've told about the cut
Speaker 3: of Monster the other week, so you know, slowly we're
Speaker 3: getting to see the real all my quirks all. So,
Speaker 3: something that's super interesting for attracting a guy is to
Speaker 3: actually expect good things from people. So psychologists say that
Speaker 3: we tend to mold to the expectations that people have
Speaker 3: set for us.
Speaker 1: So I'll give you an example. I was one stating this.
Speaker 3: Guy and I remember a lot of people around me
Speaker 3: had been like, he's a bit of a fuck boy,
Speaker 3: stay away from him, like bad vibes, da da da.
Speaker 3: So I went in with this really negative perception of him,
Speaker 3: and I remember I actually said to him how you
Speaker 3: were fuck boy?
Speaker 1: And he was like, what makes you say that?
Speaker 3: And then he kind of played into that role, Whereas
Speaker 3: like maybe if I was like, you know, you seem
Speaker 3: like a really good guy. I feel like you're like
Speaker 3: really loyal and compassionate and kind, then maybe he would
Speaker 3: have been like, she thinks really highly of me. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna like try and meet those kind of expectations.
Speaker 2: As a one hundred percent agree with that, I reckon
Speaker 2: as a guy, Like if a girl sets that expectation
Speaker 2: early where you're like, well, that's what you think. Like like, look,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to put a lot of energy into
Speaker 2: trying to convince you otherwise, I don't like you that much,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like we're just seeing each other,
Speaker 2: So you're not going to give all your energy into
Speaker 2: trying to change their opinion, just going to go with
Speaker 2: what they reckon.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, like it's interesting to hear from a guy's perspective.
Speaker 3: So if you think that someone was to label you
Speaker 3: as a fuck boy, you'd be like, oh, well that's
Speaker 3: what they think.
Speaker 2: Yeah. If I was just dating and gone on a
Speaker 2: couple of days to them, I wouldn't try to convince
Speaker 2: some otherwise, Like why would I put energy in I
Speaker 2: know for firsthand, I've grown up with women and women
Speaker 2: around my life. They're stubborn, like you're not proud, it's
Speaker 2: like to change their mind once they've made it up. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so you're not going to that's a lot of energy
Speaker 2: to try to convince someone Otherwise, if you're just you'd
Speaker 2: like a mat a minimal hick come out.
Speaker 3: Whereas like if someone's like you're a fucking unreal guy, Matt,
Speaker 3: you'd be like, Okay, I'm going to show you how
Speaker 3: unreal I am.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Well, I've said this before on the podcast.
Speaker 2: A lot of when I was dating, a lot of
Speaker 2: women said like, as you you're not what you think,
Speaker 2: what you think you're going to be. Like, so like
Speaker 2: when they see me on social media or how they're
Speaker 2: there for option of me is a lot different once
Speaker 2: they meet me.
Speaker 3: The next one for making him obsessed is just let
Speaker 3: him talk about himself. Matt loves a good yarn about himself.
Speaker 3: If it's a guy like ma, I'm sure you can
Speaker 3: win him over by just letting him chit chat about
Speaker 3: how good he is.
Speaker 2: Literally, just let me do that.
Speaker 1: I was thinking that.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I think Jan realized that quite early on
Speaker 2: that I just fucking love to talk about myself and
Speaker 2: what's going on. So just let me, yeah do it.
Speaker 1: And look, it doesn't have to be on a surface level.
Speaker 3: You can really like dig deep and like let someone
Speaker 3: open up about themselves and be there to listen and
Speaker 3: just you know, kind of like hold space for them.
Speaker 2: That's so underrated. I feel like like some women don't
Speaker 2: realize how important that is to a man. Like really, yeah,
Speaker 2: Like I think for me, it's important that I have
Speaker 2: a partner that I can go home to and I
Speaker 2: can like speak to and they hold space for me
Speaker 2: and I can talk to them and actually open up
Speaker 2: to them and tell them how I'm feeling about stuff,
Speaker 2: and there's no judgment on their end. They're just really receptive,
Speaker 2: receptive to what I'm saying, and they give me that
Speaker 2: time and like they look, you're not looking sometimes for
Speaker 2: a solution. I know that black I've been told this
Speaker 2: about women sometimes when they event they're not looking for
Speaker 2: a solution absolutely, like they just want someone to talk to.
Speaker 1: They just want someone to listen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is hard for me. It took me a
Speaker 2: while to realize that because I'm such a solution based person,
Speaker 2: so like I might bang, well we'll do this and this,
Speaker 2: we'll solve the problem. Yeah, and yeah, a lot of
Speaker 2: guys sometimes don't want that. They just want someone there
Speaker 2: to listen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think it's important to remember that it's
Speaker 3: a two way street. So like if you're like, you know,
Speaker 3: holding space for someone, you don't want someone who's just
Speaker 3: going to constantly talk talk at you. I remember once
Speaker 3: I dated this guy and he was just so self
Speaker 3: obsessed and focused on talking about himself, and like I
Speaker 3: was happy to listen for a certain amount of time.
Speaker 3: But then when you know someone's like not be like
Speaker 3: asking you how you're doing and kind of like really
Speaker 3: making it that two way street where you can both
Speaker 3: interact with each other. I think that it's also a
Speaker 3: right flag as a woman that you have to look
Speaker 3: out for.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty guilty of that because I grew up with
Speaker 2: my mom where like you could just talk at her
Speaker 2: and like my mom would just like loved us so
Speaker 2: much that she would just listen. So like I've taken
Speaker 2: that into like my normal every day.
Speaker 1: So I pulled you up on that, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where I just feel like I just talk at
Speaker 2: her and my mom loved us so much, just be
Speaker 2: so receptive and want to hear all about it.
Speaker 1: But your mum would have probably loved for you to
Speaker 1: ask her.
Speaker 2: How hard Sometimes sometimes when I pop into grab something
Speaker 2: from my mom's like offstart just talking at her, and
Speaker 2: she'd be like, well this happened to me, And I'm like, fuck, mom,
Speaker 2: just I'm not finished yet. I've gotten better. With age,
Speaker 2: I've gotten better.
Speaker 3: You actually have gotten better, like I reckon, Like when
Speaker 3: we first became like close friends, sometimes you would talk
Speaker 3: with me a little bit and I was like, anyway,
Speaker 3: Michael and I are going, well, thank you for us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember you pulled me up on it and
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, so I make a conscious effort.
Speaker 1: But you're like, you're like so much better now. It's
Speaker 1: like a different person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what I said earlier. Have a life
Speaker 2: outside it them, so like show them that you can
Speaker 2: be independent, you can have a balanced life between them
Speaker 2: and your normal life, because no one likes a stage
Speaker 2: five clean up life.
Speaker 3: No, And I think it's important when you're in a relationship,
Speaker 3: or when you get to a place in a relationship,
Speaker 3: or even just when you're ready to date someone, Like
Speaker 3: when you're ready to go on a first date, you
Speaker 3: don't want to be putting your absolute like everything into it.
Speaker 3: Like if you're going on a first date, it shouldn't
Speaker 3: be the be all and end all of your year
Speaker 3: like that. It should be like, Okay, I'm going on
Speaker 3: a date for two hours and then I've got work,
Speaker 3: I've got this planned, I've got this hobby, Like your
Speaker 3: life should be complete without that date and if the
Speaker 3: day goes well, that's great, but it can't be like
Speaker 3: your sole focus because people feel that energy as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I've been guilty of this immersing myself
Speaker 2: into my relationships and it's just I feel like it
Speaker 2: takes away from you and then it can turn the
Speaker 2: other person off as well. I feel as well, Yeah,
Speaker 2: like you got to find that balance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely about balance. Like we're not saying don't
Speaker 3: get excited, but it can't be the be all and
Speaker 3: end all.
Speaker 2: I like this when they show you affectionately. We've spoken
Speaker 2: about this on the podcast, Like touch him casually, like
Speaker 2: slight touches break that boundary and some guys do like that,
Speaker 2: and it does show that look from a complete guy's perspective,
Speaker 2: if you're on like and you're trying to get this
Speaker 2: guy to like you, if you're like touching him, it's
Speaker 2: showing him that there is going to be a next
Speaker 2: like a second base, and that that always keeps a
Speaker 2: guy like intrigued, you know what I mean to like,
Speaker 2: you know, they could like you a little bit and
Speaker 2: then you like touch on the arm or you like,
Speaker 2: you know, flirt with him in that way. They're like
Speaker 2: in their minds they're like, oh, okay, well you know
Speaker 2: this is going well, I could be you know.
Speaker 1: Getting lucky. Is that what guys say? Yeah, that's so weird.
Speaker 1: I just I don't think about like anything sexual.
Speaker 3: If a guy's like touching me, like or touches my
Speaker 3: leg or like touches my shoulder or something, then I'm like,
Speaker 3: he likes me. Like that's just my initial thought, and
Speaker 3: like he likes me.
Speaker 2: I think I speak for a higher percentage of males
Speaker 2: that if a woman touches you, you're going, all right, we're.
Speaker 1: On really well. Fuck.
Speaker 3: There's been a lot of disappointed guys that I've gone
Speaker 3: on dates with.
Speaker 2: That rubber in my wallet might be finally getting used.
Speaker 3: Sick. Something that I think to make a guy like
Speaker 3: obsessed with you, whether it's a first date, whether it's
Speaker 3: like you know, five dates in or whether you're still
Speaker 3: trying to like keep the sparks alive in your relationship,
Speaker 3: is something that's so simple, and that's just smiling, being happy,
Speaker 3: having fun, enjoying life. This is what Michael said that
Speaker 3: made him obsess with me, and interestingly, Matt, A study
Speaker 3: by researchers at Stanford University found that people report a
Speaker 3: more positive interaction with someone when they're smiling, like there's
Speaker 3: nothing worse than going on a date with someone and
Speaker 3: they're just like stone faced.
Speaker 2: Oh, that would be like I would probably cut that date,
Speaker 2: asked for the bill, and get out of there early.
Speaker 2: And from coming from a joker and a funny guy
Speaker 2: as well. On that, if they're cracking jokes, just laugh,
Speaker 2: make him feel like they're funny. It never hurts laugh
Speaker 2: at their jokes. If a girl's laughing at me, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: this girl's a vibe.
Speaker 1: They're into me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Like, I think it's definitely an important point
Speaker 3: to like not take things too seriously, like to make
Speaker 3: things like herded like, you know, ladies, if he's not
Speaker 3: that funny, don't laugh at him.
Speaker 2: I reckon too laugh at him. I reckon make him
Speaker 2: feel like he's funny.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think if he cracks a good joke
Speaker 3: and it's warranted, like a laugh is warranted, then you
Speaker 3: can get a laugh.
Speaker 1: It's a trash joke.
Speaker 2: We're talking about the non toxic, not the toxic ones
Speaker 2: we're getting.
Speaker 3: Well, look, I think on that note, I think it's
Speaker 3: just time we jumped straight into the toxi because these
Speaker 3: ones are good. Something I love about the non toxic
Speaker 3: ways to make someone obsessed with you, is that you're
Speaker 3: making someone like you for who you are. You're not
Speaker 3: trying to trick them. But we are a generation who
Speaker 3: loves toxic. I mean, you are renowned for loving the chase.
Speaker 3: You love toxicity. You've spoken about it a lot when
Speaker 3: you were single. It was kind of like.
Speaker 1: Your go to.
Speaker 3: Have you ever been able to pinpoint what it is
Speaker 3: that you love so much about like a toxic woman?
Speaker 2: I was thinking about it, and I think it is, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the chase and like not knowing exactly what the fuck's
Speaker 2: going on, like not knowing where their heads at, not
Speaker 2: knowing like what's next, not knowing where you stand. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I guess like feeling uncomfortable in that lack relationship,
Speaker 2: Like right now I'm in a very happy relationship and
Speaker 2: I feel so good. And to think that I used
Speaker 2: to like strive in those things, it's just wild and
Speaker 2: I don't ever want to go back there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it do you reckon?
Speaker 2: I would attract toxic people into my life because I
Speaker 2: was toxic at the time.
Speaker 3: I think so absolutely, Well, what is it. It's like
Speaker 3: the law of attraction. It's like what you are, you
Speaker 3: attract and somehow you see to attract a lot of toxic.
Speaker 2: And that's a true statement because I reckon as soon
Speaker 2: as you and me had to chat and you said
Speaker 2: you need to like sort of pull your head in
Speaker 2: within week or two, I reckon Gen was a girlfriend.
Speaker 1: I was like, Fuck, he's really taking my advice on me.
Speaker 2: I reckon. It was like within a week because I
Speaker 2: was in like a real toxic place, like mixing around
Speaker 2: and not doing well for myself. Yeah, I reckon. We
Speaker 2: had that chart and then that happened, So I reckon
Speaker 2: the law of attraction's true in that respect.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, like obviously we all love toxic because it's
Speaker 3: the thrill of the chase. It's like this conquest that
Speaker 3: we like want to kind of like win. It's like
Speaker 3: if someone's kind of like showing you signs that maybe
Speaker 3: they don't like you, then you're like, well, fuck you,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna do everything I can.
Speaker 1: I'm going to do everything in my power to win
Speaker 1: you over.
Speaker 2: Even thinking about that gives me anxiety. It gives you
Speaker 2: like the creeps like, yeah, and you're right, I reckon.
Speaker 2: As soon as like you felt like they didn't want
Speaker 2: anything to do with Yeah, you're like, well, fucking earth,
Speaker 2: I'm going to make you want something to do with me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's it's on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, so we do love toxic.
Speaker 3: But the thing about toxic situationships or relationships or even
Speaker 3: just like dating like first dates or whatever, when they
Speaker 3: get toxic, you kind of end up chasing someone that
Speaker 3: maybe you don't even like, do you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like you don't even know them that well, but you
Speaker 3: just put them on this massive pedestal.
Speaker 2: And updating them for a year.
Speaker 1: Yeah you've been there. Well, I mean it's true.
Speaker 3: And I mean that's why this toxic culture to make
Speaker 3: people obsessed with you is so prevalent. Like there's so
Speaker 3: much content on this on TikTok and YouTube, and you know,
Speaker 3: people thrive on it. They love it because they're like,
Speaker 3: how do I get this person who maybe might not
Speaker 3: have liked me to want me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's a lot of ways to do that.
Speaker 2: So if you think the non toxic way hasn't worked
Speaker 2: for you, this is where you have got to listen
Speaker 2: because this is definitely going to help you. But is
Speaker 2: it the guy you want or is it the girl
Speaker 2: you want?
Speaker 1: Well, no, it's not.
Speaker 3: And this is what we want to stress, like, we
Speaker 3: are going to give you the toxic version because we
Speaker 3: know you guys want them. But like I think if
Speaker 3: it's going to be a serious relationship or someone who
Speaker 3: is actually going to fall in love with you for
Speaker 3: the person you are, you need to go the non
Speaker 3: toxic route. Mabe.
Speaker 2: Maybe these are good if someone's being toxic to you
Speaker 2: to turn it over and make them chase you. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: and they take these points for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Like if someone's being toxic and being like hot
Speaker 3: and cold and you know, all of that good stuff,
Speaker 3: maybe it's time for you to take back your power.
Speaker 3: So the first way to do that is find little
Speaker 3: ways to reject them, because rejection breathes obsession.
Speaker 2: If that's like saying you're too busy to go on
Speaker 2: a date with them, or like rejecting plans they make
Speaker 2: or canceling on them last second, that's definitely the way
Speaker 2: to do that.
Speaker 1: And it's definitely a great way to reel someone in.
Speaker 1: I mean that.
Speaker 3: You you know firsthand you love a bit of you
Speaker 3: love a bit of toxic rejection to really grow that obsession.
Speaker 2: It does work, absolutely, And when you mix pleasure with pain,
Speaker 2: when the same person gives you both. It creates this
Speaker 2: psychological attachment style to him.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: That's like the person who you're thinking about twenty four
Speaker 3: to seven. You're like, you know, are they going to
Speaker 3: message me back this time? Like I'm sending out this message,
Speaker 3: like who knows when they're going to reply? Like you know,
Speaker 3: I've dated a guy who, like you know, sometimes he
Speaker 3: would reply, sometimes he wouldn't, and it just made me
Speaker 3: so obsessed with him. It was not healthy, Like I
Speaker 3: was unhealthily obsessed with him, and it was literally because
Speaker 3: he used every toxic trick in the book to make me,
Speaker 3: to put me in that place.
Speaker 2: I remember like checking your phone and seeing if it
Speaker 2: was the person you're messaging and then it wasn't, and
Speaker 2: then then your heart, oh oh, don't hate me back there.
Speaker 3: I think something that you have to be willing to
Speaker 3: do when dating is to be willing to walk away
Speaker 3: and to just do it effortlessly, you know, cut communication
Speaker 3: if someone is treating you in a specific way to
Speaker 3: get them to come back, and to watch them come
Speaker 3: like basically running back. I think being able to walk
Speaker 3: away and mentally walk away, so.
Speaker 2: Just ghost them essentially and.
Speaker 1: Then essentially like and I mean it's so toxic.
Speaker 3: But like if someone does something you don't like, you know,
Speaker 3: you're just like, okay, cut You're done just having that,
Speaker 3: Like it's kind of like almost being able to pull
Speaker 3: out your emotions from it, or being stubborn enough to
Speaker 3: be like, I'm not putting up with this.
Speaker 2: I've been always fascinated by my mates that can do that.
Speaker 2: I've never been able just to walk away and just
Speaker 2: not like you know what I mean, it's just for me.
Speaker 2: I don't know, But that's.
Speaker 1: Because your feelings are involved.
Speaker 3: I feel like feelings have to be either, Like you know,
Speaker 3: some people don't let themselves feel past a certain point,
Speaker 3: like people cut off their emotions.
Speaker 2: You know, what a happy life they must unhappy? But
Speaker 2: what a blissful life they must live. What a blissful life.
Speaker 3: I think as well, Like if you're gonna make someone
Speaker 3: obsessed with you, you have to have the inner confidence and
Speaker 3: essentially be obsessed with yourself, like you need to be
Speaker 3: like I am the best catch there is out there.
Speaker 3: They would be lucky to have me. And you know,
Speaker 3: it's kind of like manifesting, like where like you see
Speaker 3: yourself on this pedestal and so therefore they kind of
Speaker 3: see you on that pedestal as well.
Speaker 2: Put yourself on that pedestal. Don't don't let them wait
Speaker 2: for them to do it. Put yourself up there.
Speaker 1: And we all know you do this.
Speaker 2: I'm already sitting up there loud and proud this one.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, don't sleep with them straight away.
Speaker 3: This is this is handbook rules, like number one for me.
Speaker 3: This is like I think there's you know, we talk
Speaker 3: a lot about.
Speaker 2: How I think there's a fine line you do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think five dates for you, i'd be out by
Speaker 2: like the third.
Speaker 1: No, you wouldn't. You absolutely wouldn't.
Speaker 2: I don't know, because that's that's like long haul stuff
Speaker 2: that's like five days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But like if you're looking for a relationship, I
Speaker 3: think that if someone is going to wait five days
Speaker 3: to sleep with you for like I don't know, say
Speaker 3: you go out with them for a year, Like, it's
Speaker 3: not the worst, is it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I meant you put it in that. But when you're
Speaker 2: out dating and you know that you're not looking for
Speaker 2: a relationship.
Speaker 3: Well, I think for me, the reason why I do
Speaker 3: the five date rulers because I'm like, well, you know,
Speaker 3: at a minimum, they're going to get to know me
Speaker 3: for like an hour each day.
Speaker 1: This is minimum.
Speaker 3: Let's say a date goes two hours. That's ten hours
Speaker 3: of getting to know me and me getting to know
Speaker 3: them equally. So like they know me, I know them
Speaker 3: now I feel comfortable to have sex with them, and
Speaker 3: like also I feel like, you know, guys kind of
Speaker 3: sometimes need to create that attachment by getting to know
Speaker 3: you before they have sex with you to then really
Speaker 3: be like, oh my god, I'm obsessed. And I think
Speaker 3: that's why this has fallen in the toxic category.
Speaker 2: Hypothetically, you spend those ten hours for investments. You're investing
Speaker 2: in this person. Yeah, it's all going well, you go
Speaker 2: to the shag wagon, you go up there, you're in bed,
Speaker 2: and it's the absolute worst lay you've ever had. Wouldn't
Speaker 2: you just feel like.
Speaker 1: I'd been them?
Speaker 2: So you've invested all this time?
Speaker 3: Well, like maybe maybe like look, maybe if they're bad
Speaker 3: in bed, then maybe you might put some time into
Speaker 3: helping them, like curate this a lot.
Speaker 2: Of time into something.
Speaker 3: That could just well, I mean, look, anyone can be
Speaker 3: bad in bed, So I mean that's just the rule,
Speaker 3: is it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. That's that's investing. You know. I thought
Speaker 2: it might go, might pay dividends, it might not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think holding your dignity at any sign of
Speaker 3: disrespect is one that I actually don't think is that toxic,
Speaker 3: But I like, I know I'm a little bit toxic,
Speaker 3: but this for me doesn't fall under the toxic category.
Speaker 3: So like, if you feel disrespected by a guy in
Speaker 3: any way, to hold your dignity and be like that's
Speaker 3: not okay, I don't appreciate that, and just telling people straight.
Speaker 2: So that means if you feel disrespected by a guy
Speaker 2: early on while you're dating, to call them out on it.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I would, I would always do this. And
Speaker 3: I know you're looking at me like I'm being toxic,
Speaker 3: but I don't think that's toxic.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's toxic either. I think I think.
Speaker 3: That's like being straightforward with something obviously on like the
Speaker 3: first like let's say two dates, like it's nice to
Speaker 3: be polite and like, you know, it's we all want
Speaker 3: to just have a good time, get to know each other,
Speaker 3: see for on a like a playing field where we
Speaker 3: kind of are wanting.
Speaker 1: The same things.
Speaker 3: Once we get to like date three, if someone does
Speaker 3: something where I'm feeling disrespected, I mean, even date one,
Speaker 3: if someone did something where I was disrespected, I would
Speaker 3: probably be like, I don't appreciate that.
Speaker 2: It depends on that.
Speaker 1: It depends on the circumstances.
Speaker 2: Definitely ghost and you wouldn't talk to them again. I
Speaker 2: feel like, yeah, just be like nah.
Speaker 1: Yeah you're out. You struck our first guy.
Speaker 2: And I like that though, So I reckon. We put
Speaker 2: that into the non toxic because I reckon. A strong minded,
Speaker 2: independent woman, like I said before.
Speaker 1: Is hot, but that's not for everyone.
Speaker 3: Like I remember when and I know this is like
Speaker 3: such a random like example, but when we were on Loveland,
Speaker 3: I remember Owen was kind of like had me and
Speaker 3: Jesse both on the go and was he actually said
Speaker 3: to me on Love Island. This is such a random example,
Speaker 3: but it's just literally come to my mind. He literally
Speaker 3: said to me like, I'm gonna choose you over Jesse.
Speaker 3: And then he still hadn't made a decision. So that
Speaker 3: night I went up to him and I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm not playing this game with you. I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: do this, Like you need to make your decision otherwise
Speaker 3: I'm like moving on. And the next day he chose
Speaker 3: Jesse because he couldn't like, so.
Speaker 2: You reckon he couldn't take that strong.
Speaker 3: Well, everyone's different, Like you love a strong woman, you know,
Speaker 3: Michael loves a strong woman.
Speaker 1: That's why he's with me. But like, some guys want
Speaker 1: to be the alpha, and like I.
Speaker 2: Think they want that masculinity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like they want to be like the boss.
Speaker 3: And I think it can like either like really work
Speaker 3: or it can go in the opposite direction where a
Speaker 3: guy will be like, you're too strong for me, And
Speaker 3: I think, look, if you're a strong woman, be strong
Speaker 3: like you. I want someone who can handle that. If
Speaker 3: someone is like threatened by that, then like fuck them off.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I think there is a fine line. Like obviously,
Speaker 2: I think every man, like and myself, wants to feel
Speaker 2: masculine and wants to be like the person.
Speaker 1: That's like somewhat dominant dominant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then again, I don't mind for a girl
Speaker 2: to take like the lead on some sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: Like I'm like, yeah, whatever, absolutely chill with me. Like
Speaker 2: I like that a girl, like you know the old
Speaker 2: cliche thing that they always say when there's like a
Speaker 2: girl doesn't know what she wants to eat or what
Speaker 2: she wants to drinks, like I don't care, Like I
Speaker 2: don't like that that does that Like that actually frustrates me.
Speaker 2: I just if I don't because I really don't care,
Speaker 2: so I might I'm just gonna sit here forever just
Speaker 2: being like you know what I mean. So I like
Speaker 2: that's I like him just be like that straight down
Speaker 2: and this is what we're doing sort of thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like look and everyone's different, like some guys
Speaker 3: might be like I want to take the lead in order,
Speaker 3: but like you know, it's also I guess when you're
Speaker 3: dating about getting to know people, getting to know what
Speaker 3: they're like and whats are. But yeah, like I think
Speaker 3: it really is like dependent on the person. But I
Speaker 3: think that another toxic way to make someone obsess with
Speaker 3: you is to kind of make them prove themselves to you,
Speaker 3: not the other way around. So like, for instance, like
Speaker 3: if I go out on a first date. A lot
Speaker 3: of the time when we go on dates, we're kind
Speaker 3: of like I really want them to like me. But
Speaker 3: you need to kind of like change your mindset if
Speaker 3: you're playing that toxic game and be like kind of like, well,
Speaker 3: what are you bringing to the table? What do you
Speaker 3: offer me in a relationship?
Speaker 1: A little bit toxic, A lot of bit toxic. I
Speaker 1: don't know, what do you think?
Speaker 2: I reckon this one could go either way because like
Speaker 2: I feel like if you there's a I think there's
Speaker 2: a fine line to make it not toxic and toxic.
Speaker 2: Really like you should always go into the mentality of
Speaker 2: dates when you're dating, of like what are you bringing me? Do?
Speaker 2: I like you? Yeah, but like don't make it so
Speaker 2: you make them feel insignificant and like suppress them. Do
Speaker 2: it in a nice way where they know that they're like,
Speaker 2: but if you want to go full toxic, just fucking
Speaker 2: make them feel like shit and make them feel like
Speaker 2: they're constantly climbing a ladder where they're never going to
Speaker 2: get there.
Speaker 1: That is so bad.
Speaker 2: And you just keep pulling that ladder higher and higher
Speaker 2: and they're just trying to get never ending ladder of
Speaker 2: them trying to impress you.
Speaker 3: Look, give them a preview to what life would be
Speaker 3: like with you. I don't think this is toxic, but
Speaker 3: like you know, like put your best foot forward, especially
Speaker 3: for the first few dates. You know, Like the thing
Speaker 3: is is in life, we all just want to have
Speaker 3: a good time. We want to have fun, we want
Speaker 3: things to be positive. And happy and we know that
Speaker 3: you know, that's not life, that's not reality, Like shit happens,
Speaker 3: bad things can happen, but you know when you're going
Speaker 3: on those dates, like I think it's like good to
Speaker 3: kind of like, you know, be the best version of you.
Speaker 2: Imagine dating a girl like a couple of dates, so
Speaker 2: dating a guy should I say, or just dating someone
Speaker 2: a couple of dates in and then like something goes
Speaker 2: wrong and you get to see their full fun can
Speaker 2: like you know what I mean, side I crack it
Speaker 2: and they're like getting real frustrated.
Speaker 1: You'd be like, hell no, probably don't show.
Speaker 2: Them that preview of you. I reckon I would have
Speaker 2: scared Genoway and a lot of girls in my life
Speaker 2: done that early.
Speaker 1: I think we could have all scared a lot of
Speaker 1: people away. We were like our Like.
Speaker 3: The thing is is it's not really your authentic self.
Speaker 3: It's like you on a bad day or like you
Speaker 3: when you're at like optimum ten out of ten stress levels,
Speaker 3: So like we're not always like that, and yeah, we
Speaker 3: just like probably don't show them This one. I love
Speaker 3: because I feel like it kind of relates to me
Speaker 3: and Michael, and that is to give people space and
Speaker 3: allow them to admire you from a distance. So when
Speaker 3: Michael and I met, we met at the Spie at
Speaker 3: the Beauty and the Geek event. Interestingly, I was still
Speaker 3: kind of like talking to the guy who I was
Speaker 3: no I was already seeing someone, and things with me
Speaker 3: and him were kind of like deteriorating and going to
Speaker 3: and shit was hitting the fan. And Michael had followed
Speaker 3: me on Instagram. I followed him back. But then you know,
Speaker 3: there was kind of a bit of like space. He
Speaker 3: would message me here, he would message me there, but
Speaker 3: there was kind of like a month and a half
Speaker 3: where like he kind of just watched my stories and
Speaker 3: kind of like you know, we kind of like admired
Speaker 3: each other from afar, you could say, and kind of
Speaker 3: built up some of the attraction maybe, and like we
Speaker 3: tried to catch up here and there, but it didn't
Speaker 3: work out. And like when we first initially tried to
Speaker 3: catch up, obviously I had ended things with the other guy,
Speaker 3: I was still a little bit upset about what had
Speaker 3: happened in the other situation. Like Michael was kind of
Speaker 3: like this sounds terrible, but like kind of like more
Speaker 3: of like that rebound like in my head, like that
Speaker 3: type of mentality. But yeah, like we tried. Me and
Speaker 3: Michael actually tried to catch up and then it didn't
Speaker 3: work out. And it wasn't like I wasn't like freaked
Speaker 3: out about it. I wasn't like immediately trying to like
Speaker 3: reschedule a time. Like it was kind of like I
Speaker 3: think I think he was out on like a Friday
Speaker 3: night with his friends and he knew I was out,
Speaker 3: and he was like, oh, we should catch up for
Speaker 3: a drink if you're free, But then both of us
Speaker 3: didn't end up being free, and then we kind of
Speaker 3: just left it like it was. We didn't like make
Speaker 3: new plans or schedule new plans, And then I'm kind
Speaker 3: of glad that we kind of did that and gave
Speaker 3: each other's space because when we were both in a
Speaker 3: good mental place to meet, we did so. Like when
Speaker 3: I finally was like a camp totally over this other guy,
Speaker 3: like he's a fucking idiot, I'm like not moving on
Speaker 3: due to like rebound. I'm moving on because like I'm
Speaker 3: actually ready to. That was like the best time for
Speaker 3: us to meet, and that's why I think it kind
Speaker 3: of worked.
Speaker 2: Speaking of that and now our partners, I admired from
Speaker 2: a far gen for six years. Yeah, and then like again,
Speaker 2: I messaged her and I was like, are you ready
Speaker 2: to rock and roll? And then she was like, not
Speaker 2: right now, I'm still in that stage. And I said
Speaker 2: I respect that. And then two months later, yes, she
Speaker 2: messed me and said she was ready to get a
Speaker 2: drink kid. Yeah, so that's like a good point. Yeah,
Speaker 2: these aren't even that toxic. Depends how to be honest.
Speaker 2: I mean, a person would take these and would make
Speaker 2: them toxic. I reckon it's more reflect on yourself. If
Speaker 2: you're listening to these and you think they're toxic, maybe reflect.
Speaker 3: There definitely are some that are toxic. But I also
Speaker 3: think that we have a little bit of toxic in us,
Speaker 3: which we're not afraid to admit.
Speaker 1: And that's so I were like, hmm, is that that toxic?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: We're like, no, they're not that toxic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're the toxic one.
Speaker 3: And then I think the last one that we want
Speaker 3: to touch on is a triangle effect.
Speaker 1: We touched on this before.
Speaker 3: It's left eye looking in the right eye, down to
Speaker 3: the mouth, and then back up to both eyes. It's
Speaker 3: just it's sexy as a guy, you probably have every
Speaker 3: girl's done this year and you haven't even noticed, honestly,
Speaker 3: Like it's kind of like builds that sexual tension and
Speaker 3: like that kind of like feeling in the air of like, oh,
Speaker 3: like this is like I mean, this is like more
Speaker 3: like for a woman, I would say where we're like,
Speaker 3: this could be like moving in the right direction.
Speaker 1: This could be a second base. I don't even know
Speaker 1: what second base is. This could be moving to like
Speaker 1: something a bit more.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think right now when you say that,
Speaker 2: if I've ever seen that and not, I don't feel
Speaker 2: like I have, but I feel like I felt what
Speaker 2: comes after it, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I think your ex, yeah, did it to you?
Speaker 2: Reckon?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I actually saw that with my own eyes.
Speaker 3: When you're like, I don't think that's happened to Hi,
Speaker 3: I'm like, it definitely have.
Speaker 2: She had a different way of doing things. She was Yeah,
Speaker 2: she knew what she was doing with that.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, look it's that time of the show where
Speaker 3: we find out where our heads are at.
Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere, let's get into it, all right. So
Speaker 2: you're about to ask us where our heads are at.
Speaker 2: This first one comes in from Stacy.
Speaker 3: Okay, so Stacey has said, I'm struggling to get guys
Speaker 3: to stay interested in me after a first date. The
Speaker 3: conversation usually to die after the first date, and I'm
Speaker 3: trying my best not to come across desperate. How do
Speaker 3: I make him obsessed with me?
Speaker 2: Okay, Stacy, I reckon maybe your check game shit. Honestly,
Speaker 2: what do you I think you should take away our
Speaker 2: tips that we've said here and see where it goes
Speaker 2: from there. Obviously, I think maybe you're picking guys that
Speaker 2: aren't interested in going on more than a first date. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I like that. Maybe you, like I said, maybe your
Speaker 2: check game is a bit shit.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll tell her her check game.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe it's not so much. It could be anyhiw
Speaker 2: it could be the guys that they're not interested in
Speaker 2: going on another date. I think if a couple of
Speaker 2: guys are not wanting to go on a second day, then.
Speaker 1: It's chat the reflection of you. Nah, that's so mean. Look,
Speaker 1: I think she could be meeting the wrong guys.
Speaker 2: Is that option as well?
Speaker 3: You know, like there's a lot of times where you
Speaker 3: meet someone and you're just like, it's not you. It's
Speaker 3: literally just that there's no like you're a great person,
Speaker 3: there's no like sparks and connection.
Speaker 2: So honestly, Stacey, I don't think worry. I think that
Speaker 2: if you keep going on these first dates, let's think
Speaker 2: about it, what's the worst thing that's happening. You're getting
Speaker 2: to meet new people, You're getting a free feed, a
Speaker 2: free drink.
Speaker 1: If they're paying hope.
Speaker 2: So but like you know what I mean, Like you're learning,
Speaker 2: and I feel like people forget actually the fun side
Speaker 2: of dating.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a learning experience as well, Like we learn
Speaker 3: things we like grow Like Also, like I guess like
Speaker 3: maybe come at it from the angle, like you know,
Speaker 3: what are they doing to like make me interested in them?
Speaker 3: As opposed to like why don't they like me? Obviously,
Speaker 3: Like no one wants to feel desperate and like rejection
Speaker 3: sucks and it is such a hard pill to swallow
Speaker 3: when you feel like kind of like the messages are
Speaker 3: kind of like weaning off or dying down, especially if
Speaker 3: you go on the first day and you're actually like,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm into this person. But I guess my
Speaker 3: advice would be keep dating, keep putting yourself out there
Speaker 3: and see what works, and there will be someone who'll
Speaker 3: come along who'll be like, this is a cool chick,
Speaker 3: you know, let's see how it goes. I think maybe
Speaker 3: just don't come on like super strong at the start,
Speaker 3: like have fun, enjoy the day. You know, we've given
Speaker 3: a lot of tips on this episode and kind of
Speaker 3: try and implement some of them.
Speaker 2: Okay, Stacy, I reckon, try this for your next date. Okay,
Speaker 2: maybe you say, okay, hey, you've organized a date. But
Speaker 2: then you say you've got a flat tire. So you
Speaker 2: go out, give yourself a punch out. You ask them
Speaker 2: to do a favor. They come change a tire. As
Speaker 2: they're there, you compliment them, they say how handy they are.
Speaker 2: The whole time. You keep eye contact. So you're keeping
Speaker 2: eye contact with them, but remember to use their name,
Speaker 2: so you call them by name the whole time. After
Speaker 2: a while, you mirror their gestures while they're changing it tire.
Speaker 2: You pick up what they're saying. Don't be scared to
Speaker 2: show them your floor. So Stacy and I don't mean
Speaker 2: the real ones. I mean just little ones, like you've
Speaker 2: got a dirty car, be like, oh, I'm going to
Speaker 2: clean it. Expect good things from him. So pick a
Speaker 2: guy that you're acting.
Speaker 1: I'm going to start here right here. Thank you so much,
Speaker 1: Matt for the advice. Everyone's already heard the podcast.
Speaker 2: This is the This is the Ultimate date on how
Speaker 2: to make him obsessed with you touch him casually as
Speaker 2: changing your tire, you know what that.
Speaker 1: With the whole touching thing.
Speaker 3: Like, I actually hate it when, like I'm not into
Speaker 3: a guy and they touched.
Speaker 1: Me too much.
Speaker 3: So I would say, like, especially for a first date,
Speaker 3: if you if you're not one hundred percent sure that
Speaker 3: they're into you, like I would keep the touching to
Speaker 3: like a minimum like here and there. That's fine, But
Speaker 3: like I get the ike. If a guy's like overtouching me,
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna put that that's.
Speaker 2: A guy for girl. It's a bit different when a
Speaker 2: girl's touching a guy.
Speaker 1: True, well is it? I don't know.
Speaker 3: We both were all out there being like, who's this person? Okay,
Speaker 3: So the next one has come in from Jemima. She
Speaker 3: has written in saying what fragrances male and female can
Speaker 3: you use to make them obsessed with you?
Speaker 1: Fuck? We haven't even spoken about fragrances, Matt.
Speaker 2: I reckon Britney spears fantasy I reckon that's such a
Speaker 2: such a it's just a good smelling one. And I
Speaker 2: think that like it could go one or two ways.
Speaker 2: You could have one that I literally have, Like my
Speaker 2: sister wears my exes perfume. Amber, our producer, wears another
Speaker 2: one of my exes every time, like they come to me.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh Jesus, that reminds me of thing that
Speaker 2: reminds you things I could go could go either way really, Like.
Speaker 1: Do you know what?
Speaker 3: Once I was seeing this guy and we were at
Speaker 3: Maya and he literally pointed out this fragrance to me
Speaker 3: and he was like, oh my god, I love this fragrance.
Speaker 1: You should get it.
Speaker 3: And I was like, what is it? I was like,
Speaker 3: I was like, don't tell me, this is your exes perfume.
Speaker 1: I kid you not.
Speaker 3: It was like, yeah, I just love this smell. I
Speaker 3: was like, you love your ex you freak?
Speaker 1: Like what do you mean?
Speaker 3: Like that's I can't believe that I'm seeing a guy
Speaker 3: who's telling.
Speaker 1: Me to wear their exes perfume, Like, are you right?
Speaker 2: Hindsight? He was doing that, so you didn't leave that
Speaker 2: your smell on him when he went back to her.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's what it is I used to.
Speaker 2: Tell girls to not wear a perfume to my house
Speaker 2: because I didn't want the smell on my sheets.
Speaker 1: Why because you were like had a high rotation by Yeah.
Speaker 2: I used to say, it give me a headache if
Speaker 2: I smelt it on my sheets.
Speaker 1: Sick Matt so.
Speaker 3: Lightly. I love it when in all serious and so
Speaker 3: I love it when a guy is wearing like a
Speaker 3: sexy cologne like Chanel Blue.
Speaker 2: That's got that love that in the villain Remember in
Speaker 2: the villa, like six people were wearing Yeah, it.
Speaker 3: Was the smell of yeah, yeah, literally do your savage.
Speaker 3: That is like that is the hottest perfume, like I
Speaker 3: said when we were on Love Island. Then I'll say
Speaker 3: it again, hottest male perfume in my opinion.
Speaker 1: Do you you what's your female ones?
Speaker 2: Oh geez I honestly I don't know. Maybe like I
Speaker 2: used to, I wear that Republica one from Mecca. It's
Speaker 2: a girl and guys one. Oh nice, and that's really good.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Now that I run, I have this little square
Speaker 3: one and it's from Mecca.
Speaker 1: It's like so expensive.
Speaker 3: Michael got it for me for my birthday and it's
Speaker 3: like almost about to run out, which I'm so sad
Speaker 3: about and it's like I wish I knew what it
Speaker 3: was called, but it is like amazing. I'll put it
Speaker 3: on our Facebook group for everyone who's interested. That one's amazing,
Speaker 3: But if you want like a cheaper one, I love
Speaker 3: like love, love Love from Chemists Warehouse The Euphoria by
Speaker 3: Calvin Klein, likeugh to die for. I used to get
Speaker 3: the most amount of compliments with that. I think once
Speaker 3: this perfume bottle, the most expensive ones run out, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go back to that.
Speaker 2: I used to wear Calvin Klein one day. Now I've
Speaker 2: moved to Tommy. Yeah, just every day one, but yeah,
Speaker 2: my going out one's with the Channel by. The tricky
Speaker 2: thing about fragrances is when I wear Chanel, it reminds
Speaker 2: me of like, you know, like a different time in
Speaker 2: my life. So I really refrain from wearing that now,
Speaker 2: like it's weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fragrances can be hit and missed for that reason,
Speaker 3: because you can you can be like, my god, I
Speaker 3: smell amazing, this guy's going to be so attracted to me,
Speaker 3: But realistically he can be like, oh my god, they
Speaker 3: smell like my egg, but I.
Speaker 2: Go fuck you, smell like like my axe. And then
Speaker 2: when my sister, like when she comes when we're at
Speaker 2: my Mom's like a fuck me, what's her name here?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you like get freaked out?
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, So that's a real hit and miss
Speaker 3: just but I mean, I look, I think it's always
Speaker 3: a mate, like it's always great to smell amazing, and
Speaker 3: like people should definitely have a nice fragrance.
Speaker 1: I think it's something nice.
Speaker 3: Don't overdo it like I used to reckon like shower
Speaker 3: and perfume when I was like in nineteen twenty, I
Speaker 3: would like literally like spray like twenty puffs of the perfect.
Speaker 2: What do you reckon? You realize that you don't have
Speaker 2: to put too much on I'm an adult, and you're
Speaker 2: like you don't probably like last year, and you realize
Speaker 2: I don't need this marsh On.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like a nice like hint is nice, Like you
Speaker 3: don't need to like overpower everyone in the room and
Speaker 3: like give everyone.
Speaker 1: An asthma attack.
Speaker 3: Okay, well look I think that's all we have time
Speaker 3: for today, Matt. It's in a really fun episode.
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