WEBVTT - WHY YOU SO OBSESSED WITH ME?

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<v Speaker 1>I want the fairy tale. I want the prince charming

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<v Speaker 1>she How do.

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<v Speaker 2>I put this? Isn't a fan of my kissing style.

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<v Speaker 1>Boyfriend and girlfriend for about twelve hours. He's in a

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<v Speaker 1>trash bin. He's non recyclable. Catching them up.

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<v Speaker 2>I love being love. I love love.

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<v Speaker 3>On today's episode of Where's Your Head At, we will

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<v Speaker 3>be telling you how to make your crush obsessed with you.

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<v Speaker 2>You should always be your true, authentic self, but try

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<v Speaker 2>these little tips and psychological tricks to get your next crush.

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<v Speaker 3>Keen on you two stick around to hear some toxic

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<v Speaker 3>and non toxic ways to master the law of attraction.

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<v Speaker 1>Where's Your Head At.

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<v Speaker 1>That is one large coffee or drinking this morning? You're

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<v Speaker 1>feeling extra tired?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah I am, but a big boy needs a big coffee,

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon. Thanks for pointing out. Is it a big

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<v Speaker 2>cup or is it a small hand or is.

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<v Speaker 1>It a Oh my god? The comfort the self compliments

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<v Speaker 1>have started already. How are you this morning?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's cut the formalities. Anna, let's cut the little

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<v Speaker 2>chit chat. I'm not in a good place, goes away

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<v Speaker 2>on Friday and she has no like this is the one.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a big one.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is the one where she has no service,

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<v Speaker 3>Like she can't message you. No, I still can't wrap

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<v Speaker 3>my head around that, Like how are we living in

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<v Speaker 3>this day and age?

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<v Speaker 1>And she's gonna have no reception.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, she's tracking the Larapinter Trail for the Hunger Project charity.

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<v Speaker 2>So she's raised five grand and they're going to walk

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<v Speaker 2>the larap Inter Trail.

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<v Speaker 1>Good, what a great thing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifteen kilometers a day. They're camping out under the stars.

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<v Speaker 2>They're really like it's a real like come to Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>sort of black time, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Was she doing it with her work?

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<v Speaker 2>So the Hunger Project is with lack to Cuba, who

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<v Speaker 2>she works for, and they like they take all the

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<v Speaker 2>staff on this side.

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<v Speaker 1>So is this compulsory?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not. She doesn't have to do this, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>which is random as well. Yeah, so she actually went

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<v Speaker 2>through like they actually not cast, but they interview you

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<v Speaker 2>to see like who they're going to take on. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to be eligible for it, you have to work

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<v Speaker 2>there for three years, so there's like a vigorous like

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<v Speaker 2>weeding process to get the pretenders out. Wow. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm gonna have a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a loane time me time. I won't be able to

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<v Speaker 2>contact her. There'll be no cuddle monster, there'll be no Heaven.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be a.

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<v Speaker 1>Rough it's gonna be a bleak week.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be And you're away as well, aren't you.

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<v Speaker 2>You're in Baly, So I've got both my women away

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<v Speaker 2>from me. I'm gonna be fucking I don't know who

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be venturing to.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to be like rocking in the corner by the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the week, being.

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<v Speaker 2>Like what's happening, Mickey's on night duty. I'm fucked.

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<v Speaker 3>You can still contact me. I will be around, like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, from certain hours. I mean, no contact with

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<v Speaker 3>your partner. That's pretty full on, Like I wouldn't even

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<v Speaker 3>be looking like doing that. Absolutely not like that's a

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<v Speaker 3>strong note from me, But I mean it's for a

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<v Speaker 3>great cause.

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<v Speaker 1>Good on her.

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<v Speaker 3>We wish her all the best for the trail, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think she's gonna smash it. She's probably gonna come

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<v Speaker 3>back absolutely wrecked, like you're gonna be on massage duty.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't say that she hears.

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<v Speaker 3>This in all serious and speaking about Bali, I am

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be in Bali extremely soon.

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<v Speaker 1>I am getting.

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<v Speaker 3>Really clean and attached to Michael because I know that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to be with him soon. So, like

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<v Speaker 3>we have become obsessed with each other. Like we literally

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<v Speaker 3>will like lie on the couch and just be cuddling

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<v Speaker 3>at each other, really tired and like you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Like all of that cringey stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Like we're just like obsessed at the moment, like we're

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<v Speaker 3>peaking at a ten.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I do that, I'm probably the opficite.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll probably distance myself to get ready for it, like

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<v Speaker 2>to get ready for that that's toxic. Well it helps

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<v Speaker 2>me survive, So I don't know. If that's toxic, then

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<v Speaker 2>I'm toxic.

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<v Speaker 3>Well look on that note, I think it's time to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about how to make people obsessed with you in

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<v Speaker 3>a toxic and a non toxic way. Let's do it, Okay, Matt,

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<v Speaker 3>you know the reason why we're doing this episode, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's because one of my friends who's single is having

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<v Speaker 3>a really tough time at the moment dating, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>We remember how shit it was dating, Oh suck.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, She's just gone through this kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>weird like situation where she's feeling a little bit heartbroken

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<v Speaker 3>and she was like, you know what I need, Anna,

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<v Speaker 3>I just need a guy to be obsessed with me.

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<v Speaker 1>How do I make a guy obsessed with you?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, you know what, this is a

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<v Speaker 3>great episode for a podcast and we want to hear

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<v Speaker 3>a male perspective of this.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to ask.

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<v Speaker 3>You, Matt, just tell us what makes the guy obsessed

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<v Speaker 3>with you?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want the long answer or the short answer?

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<v Speaker 1>Give us, give us it all any details out?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So what makes me obsessed with the girl? I

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<v Speaker 2>like a girl that's like, I like a girl's confident.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Love confidence.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, confidence is key. So like if they're like coming

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<v Speaker 2>in confident and like they know what they've got, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sucker for that. Like, yeah, sucker for that.

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<v Speaker 3>So you think, like fake it till you make it.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you are feeling insecure, just like you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Like eventually show your vulnerable side. But if this is

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<v Speaker 2>unlike when you first meet someone, yeah, you have to.

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon, come across confident.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll have a bit of a fake it till you

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<v Speaker 1>make it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll do it. What else, I don't put a

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<v Speaker 2>tight little number on and look to me when you

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<v Speaker 2>first meet a girl, Yeah, I think the confidence is key.

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<v Speaker 2>Being confident means that, like, also, you're like, you're strong

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<v Speaker 2>and independent, You've got like your whole life going on,

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<v Speaker 2>So you can see that this girl like they have

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<v Speaker 2>it going on and they're not relying on you to

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<v Speaker 2>help them find themselves sort of thing. So like you're

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<v Speaker 2>coming in to this girl's life and you're you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, So you don't want to feel like if

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<v Speaker 3>you sat dating someone and you're on date two, that

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<v Speaker 3>you are their whole life. Like like if if you're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>do you want to catch up, they might be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I've got work, Oh i've got plans, Oh I've got

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<v Speaker 3>a hobby.

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<v Speaker 1>So their life does not revolve around you essentially.

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<v Speaker 2>And then in saying that, that can mean that they're

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<v Speaker 2>not desperate. So then obviously if someone comes across desperate,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a bit of a turn off as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, so someone like shows that they like you

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<v Speaker 3>too much. You're like, nah, I've already got you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, tapping out.

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<v Speaker 2>But in saying that, though, like what happened with Jen

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<v Speaker 2>and I where you were like you factuated with each

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<v Speaker 2>other straight away and hung out and I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Obsessed with But you had six years of four play

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<v Speaker 3>via Instagram likes I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I had four years, six years of just fucking yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>just like getting.

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<v Speaker 1>Rejected just like what if?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that makes yeah, that makes sense there, that

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense. But I finally got it. I was there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so okay, so yeah, keep them in your DM. So

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<v Speaker 2>six years.

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<v Speaker 1>That's to be cool. Playing the long GWG.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like I think about like me and Michael, like

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<v Speaker 3>we were like instantaneously obsessed with each other. But I

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<v Speaker 3>actually spoke to Michael and I was like, hey, like

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<v Speaker 3>we're doing an episode on like being obsessed with each other,

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<v Speaker 3>Like what made you obsess with me? And Michael? The

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<v Speaker 3>first thing that he said was your bejas.

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<v Speaker 2>I was actually gonna list that, you know, I was

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<v Speaker 2>actually gonna say that, but I was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that would be so appropriate straight away

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<v Speaker 2>off the bat. But but thank you Michael for bringing

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<v Speaker 2>that up. Yes, give a wicked head job.

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<v Speaker 1>But then the.

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<v Speaker 3>Second thing that he said, when he was like Nana

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<v Speaker 3>in all seriousness, he was like, how much fun we

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<v Speaker 3>had together just made me so obsessed with you, because,

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<v Speaker 3>like he said, like when he met me, I was

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<v Speaker 3>just like in such a carefree kind of like wanting

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<v Speaker 3>to have fun, just like grabbing life by both hands

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<v Speaker 3>and just being like, let's you know, the world is

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<v Speaker 3>our oyster, we can do whatever, and just that positive,

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<v Speaker 3>happy type of vibe. And he said that really drew

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<v Speaker 3>me to you. So I mean that's what Michael initially

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<v Speaker 3>past the BJ found that drew him in.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you reckon You were yourself around Michael straightaway?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's so important.

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<v Speaker 1>So important.

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<v Speaker 3>You never want to put up this like facade of

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<v Speaker 3>like I like you, you basically don't want to pretend

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<v Speaker 3>to be someone else because you can't continue to be

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<v Speaker 3>someone else the.

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<v Speaker 2>Whole time, the whole time, like you're Yeah, but like

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like I was myself around gen. I felt

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<v Speaker 2>like I could be myself and I could, like like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, we like chatted till like four or three

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<v Speaker 2>am in the morning, Like I've never done that with

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<v Speaker 2>a girl. I'd never been like that with someone like

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<v Speaker 2>being truly myself.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't it interesting that with both of our partners at

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<v Speaker 3>the moment on our very first day, we actually ended

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<v Speaker 3>up like the date was so prolonged and we ended

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<v Speaker 3>up staying up to like three am and the warning

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<v Speaker 3>chatting with them. Like I think that's like a strong

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<v Speaker 3>sign if you can just chat to people and like

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<v Speaker 3>have fun and enjoy their company.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, we were both like blind on these dates.

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<v Speaker 3>It's still like, I guess we didn't want the date

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<v Speaker 3>to end, so we were like, let's have a few drinks,

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<v Speaker 3>let's chat, let's have fun. And I think that is

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<v Speaker 3>like a really great sign when you first meet someone.

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<v Speaker 3>But in saying that, after our first day, so after

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<v Speaker 3>Michael and I's first date, he had messaged me here

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<v Speaker 3>and there, like he had replied to some of my stories.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he'd liked a few of my Instagram photos,

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<v Speaker 3>which I was all over. I was like, as he

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<v Speaker 3>liked it, yet, you know, you know when you first talk.

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<v Speaker 2>Or just like oh no, you were posting photos for

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<v Speaker 2>him to see if he liked it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, like you know, you know, like you get like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, let's just say you get a thousand

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<v Speaker 3>likes and the only one you care about is the

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<v Speaker 3>person who you're seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like a vat vie Do.

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<v Speaker 2>You remember those days? And then you'd see if they'd

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<v Speaker 2>viewed your story or not. Oh yeah, stories were like

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<v Speaker 2>directly put up for them to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then they haven't watched it, and you're like

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<v Speaker 1>what are they doing? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, after our second date, we had kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like had like little bits of interaction here and there,

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<v Speaker 3>but I remember he hadn't asked me on a second

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<v Speaker 3>date yet, and I was like, that was like the

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<v Speaker 3>best date of my life, and like, yes, he's interacted

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<v Speaker 3>with me here and there, but like, why has this

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<v Speaker 3>guy not asked me out on a second date? Like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so confused, Like he was acting obsessed with me,

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<v Speaker 3>I was acting obsessed with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Was I reading the room wrong?

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<v Speaker 3>Then I started to doubt myself and then I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I know it was a great date. So I actually

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<v Speaker 3>messaged him and I was like I literally said, so

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<v Speaker 3>are you taking me out on a second date or what?

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<v Speaker 1>Question?

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<v Speaker 2>Mark confidence?

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<v Speaker 1>And then his.

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<v Speaker 3>Response was like I was literally just about to ask you.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to see if you were free on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, perfect, lock it in.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know why he waited so long? Has he

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<v Speaker 2>told you are?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So he was like he was under the impression that

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<v Speaker 3>like he was like, yeah, so, I think he was

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<v Speaker 3>kind of trying to play a little bit hard to

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<v Speaker 3>get because he was still unsure of like where my

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<v Speaker 3>head was at, and so yeah, he.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like trying to play it a bit cool.

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<v Speaker 3>But then he reckons that after I sent that text

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<v Speaker 3>message being like, you know, are you going to ask

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<v Speaker 3>me out on a date or what are you going

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<v Speaker 3>to ask me on a second date or what. From

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<v Speaker 3>that moment on, he was like, fuck it, I think

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<v Speaker 3>she's obsessed with me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to act completely all in.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, like he was like messaging me at

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<v Speaker 3>like midnight when he was out with his friends, like

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<v Speaker 3>what are you up to?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Like always messaging me, like especially if he was drinking

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<v Speaker 3>so and then it just kind of like went from them.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a sign if a guy's messaging you while

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<v Speaker 2>he's out with these mates, is it? Yeah, I reckon

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<v Speaker 2>because you're not gonna put you like you're out like

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<v Speaker 2>in your single technically.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's other girls there's other girls.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're messaging.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a good sign unless he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Just striking out and he knows that he's gone.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, but if he's messaging you early in the night,

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<v Speaker 3>through the whole yeah yeah. If it's like, what time

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<v Speaker 3>do you reckon? If it's past like ten o'clock, then

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<v Speaker 3>it could be like a bit of a strikeout situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Even nine, No.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you later. Twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh so twelve okay, right, okay, that's striking out, ladies.

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<v Speaker 1>In case you're wondering.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a bit of don't don't count me out

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<v Speaker 2>at nine or ten? What I wouldn't count me out?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>What's a fail where you're like this is a turn off,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm not going to be obsessed with you now,

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<v Speaker 3>Like the thing I mean, I'm asking you this question,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm also answering at the same time, Like guys,

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<v Speaker 3>when I'm like first art, when I first start seeing

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<v Speaker 3>a guy, they can do the smallest things and it

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<v Speaker 3>just gives me the eck and I'm out, So like

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<v Speaker 3>what gives you the eck?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? It's the first thing comes to mind, is like

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<v Speaker 2>if they try to be like sexy and it just

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<v Speaker 2>fucking fails.

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<v Speaker 1>Or they try like what like when they kiss or

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<v Speaker 1>they try.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've like you know, like they bite their lips

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<v Speaker 2>or something. It's just not like they're trying to overdo it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you're just like okay, so not too full

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<v Speaker 2>of not too full. I thinel like a.

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<v Speaker 1>Subtle bite of the lip could be like a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit hot.

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<v Speaker 3>Like what's that thing that they tell you to do

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<v Speaker 3>to like look at a guy in the eye then

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<v Speaker 3>look down at his What is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>They tell you to look look at a guy in

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<v Speaker 3>the eyes like intently.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you trying it on you?

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<v Speaker 1>What he means relationships?

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<v Speaker 2>Just see if it okay?

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<v Speaker 3>So they tell you to like I'm not doing it,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just explaining how.

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<v Speaker 2>To I'm just sitting here.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I feel uncomfortable now, but anyway, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not just.

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<v Speaker 1>Relaxed, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So basically, they tell you to look at a guy

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<v Speaker 3>in the eye like intently, and then you look down

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<v Speaker 3>at their mouth and then you can like bite your

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<v Speaker 3>own lip and then look back up at them with

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<v Speaker 3>like a little bit of a snack.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that would work?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I never seen it done.

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<v Speaker 3>But maybe yeah, in a subtle way. I think sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>like girls.

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<v Speaker 2>Can do it, isn't it left to right eye?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it is?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think maybe like left eye, right eye mouth

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<v Speaker 3>and then like look back.

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<v Speaker 2>Up, okay, ladies that are listening. And it did not

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<v Speaker 2>work on me then with Anna, but I didn't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>But if it works with someone else, well, how do

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<v Speaker 2>you know that you've made a guy obsessed with the manna?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what gives it away that they just?

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<v Speaker 3>I think when you know they're regularly messaging you. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I have this rule, and you know how stubborn I am,

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<v Speaker 3>so like when I make a rule, I followed the rules.

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<v Speaker 3>I have this rule where like if I'm seeing a guy,

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<v Speaker 3>I won't message them first, so like as soon as

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<v Speaker 3>they message me, I'll just be totally normal. Like I

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<v Speaker 3>won't like wait to text them back. I'll maybe wait

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<v Speaker 3>like ten minutes or something. So I'm not like fully

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<v Speaker 3>jumping on that bandwagon as soon as they messaged me.

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<v Speaker 3>But like, yeah, like I probably like if I was

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<v Speaker 3>seeing a guy for the first say, three weeks, I

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<v Speaker 3>probably would message them first. So I can kind of

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<v Speaker 3>get a gauge about how much they're thinking about me,

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<v Speaker 3>because if I'm not messaging them, then they know they.

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<v Speaker 1>Know if they want to talk to me, they're gonna have.

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<v Speaker 3>To reach out. But then as soon as they reach out,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like totally normal. I'm like, how's your day going,

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<v Speaker 3>da da da, Like ask some questions.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate that. What happens if they're playing games and

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<v Speaker 2>you guys are having like a massive stalemate and no

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<v Speaker 2>one's messaging anyone.

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<v Speaker 3>Well then it's just not for me because I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're not willing to put in the hard yards,

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<v Speaker 3>like you.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't get the hard you don't get the hard work,

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<v Speaker 2>you get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, both look down the camera lands.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so this is the thing that you're meant to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you look down.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to try this for the people who

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<v Speaker 2>are watching.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna look down, look up. Bite your lip.

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<v Speaker 1>That was smoldering.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you watch that, girls, I'm sorry, I am taken,

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<v Speaker 2>but I've just fallen in love with me. But look

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<v Speaker 2>at Emma behind the camera's flushing.

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<v Speaker 1>I thinks everyone's going in love with him. But how

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<v Speaker 1>do you know a girl's obsessed with you?

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<v Speaker 2>Matt just say like hanging out out the front of

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<v Speaker 2>my house waiting for me to leave talk to me,

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<v Speaker 2>just all that sort of stuff. No again, in this

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<v Speaker 2>day and age, it comes down to like messaging, I reckon,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're prompt messages. If anyone says they missed your

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<v Speaker 2>message or they're too VISI shit, yeah, they're fucking lying.

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<v Speaker 3>It's such trash, Like no one's missing a message. And

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<v Speaker 3>especially if you like someone that is like you're like

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<v Speaker 3>all encompassed in that, so you're absolutely not missing a message.

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<v Speaker 3>If someone hasn't replied to you in twelve hours, it

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<v Speaker 3>means that they don't like you. And I think that

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<v Speaker 3>there's probably like zero point zero one percent of a

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<v Speaker 3>chance that they do like you. And it actually is

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<v Speaker 3>a genuine mistake. Like it's never a genuine mistake, is it. No.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember I was seeing this girl and I will

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<v Speaker 2>like I was thought she was a vibe. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>she was okay. She would take literally like three to

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<v Speaker 2>two hours for reply to messages, and I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. Three to two two, two to three

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<v Speaker 2>hours to reply to my messages and I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. I'm like, I'm not your main priority.

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<v Speaker 2>There's some other dudes. Probably I'm like, all right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>done with this, you know next, thank you next. And

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<v Speaker 2>then as I weaned off my replies because I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty prompt replier, like I don't fuck around, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>play games. So when as I weaved off and I

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<v Speaker 2>gave her two to three hours, four hours, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like that, her replies were coming in quick heavy, she

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<v Speaker 2>was organizing dates. She was likeless, do this, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just yeah, I just go sit her.

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<v Speaker 3>In the end, you just like you know what, Like

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<v Speaker 3>people say, like it's good to play games, but at

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the day, if you're right for each other,

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<v Speaker 3>there really is.

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<v Speaker 1>No need for games.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're your authentic self, they're their authentic self, it's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna match. If you put on this like fake persona,

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<v Speaker 3>you're attracting someone to you that actually isn't you. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's just you're wasting everyone time. I think, like the

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<v Speaker 3>thing that scared me the most when I was single

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<v Speaker 3>is that like I would do one thing and it

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<v Speaker 3>could put the right person off. So we are going

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<v Speaker 3>to dive into toxic and non toxic ways to make

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<v Speaker 3>the right person of ze.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's jump in.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So We're going to start off with the boring,

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<v Speaker 2>non toxic ways. I reckon earn us.

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<v Speaker 3>So, if you're why do you love toxic so much?

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<v Speaker 3>Like I just have to ask you before we jump

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<v Speaker 3>into this.

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<v Speaker 2>I like to feel like the old me like toxic, true,

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<v Speaker 2>the old me, dude. And to be honest, I just

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<v Speaker 2>I liked it was spicy. It was just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it kept me on my torots, kept me guessing, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I'm the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're the drama. Maybe drama.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I was a problem. No, look yeah, look it

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<v Speaker 2>just was. It was different.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a bit of fun. I think you like toxic

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<v Speaker 3>when you're not serious about someone. I think as soon

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<v Speaker 3>as you're serious, you're like, Okay, cut the bs, like

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<v Speaker 3>where are we at?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's going on? Don't let my anxiety peak at

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<v Speaker 2>a thousand thinking about what's next?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, look, there's many ways to make someone obsessed with you.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to start off with the Ben Franklin effect.

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<v Speaker 3>We've spoken about this on our podcast before. It's when

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<v Speaker 3>you ask someone to do favors for you. Have you

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<v Speaker 3>ever done a favorite for.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone that I would? I think I would when I

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<v Speaker 2>would be talking to someone or trying to get them

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<v Speaker 2>obsessed with me. I feel like you do favors just naturally.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel, don't you reckon, Have you had a guy,

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<v Speaker 2>I just do favors for you, like they go out

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<v Speaker 2>of their way to do stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Like, I think if a guy likes you, they're

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<v Speaker 3>definitely like trying to impress you. In One of the

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<v Speaker 3>ways to do that is, I guess to like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, fix your blinds, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Jen, when I went to her house when we

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<v Speaker 2>first started seeing each other at her apartment, the light

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't working in her bedroom, so apparently her actually tried

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<v Speaker 2>to do it or something like that, So I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, so I took it. I went to Coles

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<v Speaker 2>and I bought one, and then I came back and

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<v Speaker 2>it was the wrong one, so I had to go again,

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<v Speaker 2>and I did all this stuff. So that was like

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<v Speaker 2>a favor like when I Yeah, when I like a girl,

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<v Speaker 2>I do favors for him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I think that that's kind of what the

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<v Speaker 3>study has kind of showed us that people tend to

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<v Speaker 3>like people more who do favors for them, even if

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<v Speaker 3>initially they didn't like them as much. So maybe Jen

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<v Speaker 3>didn't like you as much, and then you fixed the

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<v Speaker 3>light bulb and she was like, Okay, this guy's.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, he's doing he's tall, he's handy, he's handsome.

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<v Speaker 2>That as well. We speaking of handsome, don't be afraid

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<v Speaker 2>to compliment them.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew this is gonna come up. Mister, I love

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<v Speaker 3>a compliment. He had to put it in there, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, It's true, Like when you get a compliment,

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<v Speaker 3>it does kind of like make you like people maybe

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 2>I know for a fact that if I'm given one compliment,

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<v Speaker 2>it sits with me for hours. Like I'll be driving

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll be like, oh, yeah, I am here, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>I was good at that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the best compliment you've been given.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me just check my notes, because you write them

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<v Speaker 3>all down to remind yourself when you're in anxiety.

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<v Speaker 2>Best compliment I've ever been given? What you are too

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<v Speaker 2>good looking to model for this brand?

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<v Speaker 3>That's that sounds like a backhanded compliment.

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<v Speaker 1>If I've ever heard one, they're like, fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Up, that actually did happen to me? So that's not

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<v Speaker 2>a lie?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, prolonged eye contact. I think this one is so underrated.

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<v Speaker 3>Having good eye contact is really attractive and it shows confidence.

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<v Speaker 2>It does. Yeah, you bring us up on this all

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<v Speaker 2>the time that when you keep our eye contact off.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like even when we do the podcast, it just

0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:51.080
<v Speaker 3>like connects you. So you kind of like are on

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<v Speaker 3>a similar wavelength.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And the eyes are the window to the soul.

0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:00.000
<v Speaker 2>If you you look straight in their eyes, you can

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<v Speaker 2>see what they're about.

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<v Speaker 3>The way that's sering me right now is like seriously

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<v Speaker 3>concerning using someone's name.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you heard of this one?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I haven't, Anna, can you tell me more? Anna?

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<v Speaker 3>Kay?

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<v Speaker 1>I get what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>So hearing your name said by someone is actually a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of an ego boost, you know. It kind of

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<v Speaker 3>makes you think they remember my name firstly, kind of

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<v Speaker 3>gives you a little bit of extra confidence, and studies

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<v Speaker 3>have actually shown that hearing your own name has a

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<v Speaker 3>unique effect on brain activation.

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<v Speaker 2>So what does it do? It makes you think that

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<v Speaker 2>this person likes you a lot more, makes you feel

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<v Speaker 2>more important to them, makes you think that they're they

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<v Speaker 2>care about you and they've actually taken the time to

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<v Speaker 2>get to know you in a way like what your

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<v Speaker 2>name is?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, And if you want to return the favor,

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<v Speaker 3>mirroring is actually a really great way to make someone

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<v Speaker 3>obsess with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I love this one. I love when Jen picks up

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<v Speaker 2>on my like what I say, my sayings and all

0:22:57.480 --> 0:23:00.000
<v Speaker 2>that sort of stuff. Gestures, yeah, gestures. I reckon, that's

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<v Speaker 2>so funny. And like I'll be doing something and then

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<v Speaker 2>I'll hear say something that I say all the time

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, hey, you got that from me. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's fine, Yeah, I reckon, that's hot. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But also like as well, like when you are like

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<v Speaker 3>with people a lot, like we pick up each other's

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<v Speaker 3>things as well. I mean, what was it that I

0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:20.359
<v Speaker 3>used to say a lot? Yeah, yeah, I used to

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<v Speaker 3>say unreal as well. So like I think it's also

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<v Speaker 3>like when you're spending lots of time with people, then

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<v Speaker 3>slow subconsciously, yeah, subconsciously, you start mirroring them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, don't be scared to show them your flaw. So

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon that, Like I said before, don't jump into

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<v Speaker 2>this straightaway. I mean, I would never have had a

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<v Speaker 2>girlfriend in my life if I show them my flaws.

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<v Speaker 2>We spoke about catfishing before. Jen sometimes says, you catfish.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, What do you mean you think you cat.

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<v Speaker 2>She goes I just didn't realize how like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just my quirky, real full quirky side.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, and like we're all a bit quirky,

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<v Speaker 3>so like I think it's something that we kind of

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<v Speaker 3>hiden the beginning to a certain degree.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, I feel.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I was like pretty authentic with who I was

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<v Speaker 3>pretty early on. But of course, like I wasn't like

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<v Speaker 3>a full blown, like crazy person at the start of

0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:12.880
<v Speaker 3>my relationship as opposed to now. But yeah, like slowly,

0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 3>as those layers get peeled back, it's nice to be like, ah, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, it's something that can be.

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<v Speaker 3>Seen as a flaw is actually really intriguing and really

0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:25.359
<v Speaker 3>like pulls you in, And you know, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>nice to be like not everyone sees this side of you,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm lucky enough to be able to peel back

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<v Speaker 3>those layers.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we said, you get to be yourself around them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I pretend to be the joker to gen like do

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<v Speaker 2>like the laugh and then like, yeah, she gets really

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<v Speaker 2>weaked out, and then like I sort of like stroke

0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 2>her face and she just like sits there like what the.

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<v Speaker 3>Fuck I mean, You're kind of pulling back the layers.

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<v Speaker 3>For the podcast, I mean, you've told about the cut

0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:54.400
<v Speaker 3>of Monster the other week, so you know, slowly we're

0:24:54.400 --> 0:25:00.159
<v Speaker 3>getting to see the real all my quirks all. So,

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:04.760
<v Speaker 3>something that's super interesting for attracting a guy is to

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<v Speaker 3>actually expect good things from people. So psychologists say that

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 3>we tend to mold to the expectations that people have

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:12.800
<v Speaker 3>set for us.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll give you an example. I was one stating this.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy and I remember a lot of people around me

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<v Speaker 3>had been like, he's a bit of a fuck boy,

0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:24.600
<v Speaker 3>stay away from him, like bad vibes, da da da.

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<v Speaker 3>So I went in with this really negative perception of him,

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<v Speaker 3>and I remember I actually said to him how you

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<v Speaker 3>were fuck boy?

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<v Speaker 1>And he was like, what makes you say that?

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:37.320
<v Speaker 3>And then he kind of played into that role, Whereas

0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:40.399
<v Speaker 3>like maybe if I was like, you know, you seem

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<v Speaker 3>like a really good guy. I feel like you're like

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<v Speaker 3>really loyal and compassionate and kind, then maybe he would

0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:49.760
<v Speaker 3>have been like, she thinks really highly of me. I'm

0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:52.960
<v Speaker 3>gonna like try and meet those kind of expectations.

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<v Speaker 2>As a one hundred percent agree with that, I reckon

0:25:56.480 --> 0:25:58.919
<v Speaker 2>as a guy, Like if a girl sets that expectation

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<v Speaker 2>early where you're like, well, that's what you think. Like like, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to put a lot of energy into

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<v Speaker 2>trying to convince you otherwise, I don't like you that much,

0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:07.520
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, Like we're just seeing each other,

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:09.640
<v Speaker 2>So you're not going to give all your energy into

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:11.639
<v Speaker 2>trying to change their opinion, just going to go with

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<v Speaker 2>what they reckon.

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:15.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So, like it's interesting to hear from a guy's perspective.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you think that someone was to label you

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<v Speaker 3>as a fuck boy, you'd be like, oh, well that's

0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:19.760
<v Speaker 3>what they think.

0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:21.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. If I was just dating and gone on a

0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 2>couple of days to them, I wouldn't try to convince

0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:25.119
<v Speaker 2>some otherwise, Like why would I put energy in I

0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:27.320
<v Speaker 2>know for firsthand, I've grown up with women and women

0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 2>around my life. They're stubborn, like you're not proud, it's

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 2>like to change their mind once they've made it up. Yeah,

0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:35.399
<v Speaker 2>so you're not going to that's a lot of energy

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 2>to try to convince someone Otherwise, if you're just you'd

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<v Speaker 2>like a mat a minimal hick come out.

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 3>Whereas like if someone's like you're a fucking unreal guy, Matt,

0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:46.000
<v Speaker 3>you'd be like, Okay, I'm going to show you how

0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:46.760
<v Speaker 3>unreal I am.

0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Well, I've said this before on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of when I was dating, a lot of

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:55.320
<v Speaker 2>women said like, as you you're not what you think,

0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:57.000
<v Speaker 2>what you think you're going to be. Like, so like

0:26:57.000 --> 0:26:59.360
<v Speaker 2>when they see me on social media or how they're

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:01.600
<v Speaker 2>there for option of me is a lot different once

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 2>they meet me.

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:05.240
<v Speaker 3>The next one for making him obsessed is just let

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 3>him talk about himself. Matt loves a good yarn about himself.

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 3>If it's a guy like ma, I'm sure you can

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:15.639
<v Speaker 3>win him over by just letting him chit chat about

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 3>how good he is.

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:17.879
<v Speaker 2>Literally, just let me do that.

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking that.

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:23.439
<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, I think Jan realized that quite early on

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:25.399
<v Speaker 2>that I just fucking love to talk about myself and

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:28.320
<v Speaker 2>what's going on. So just let me, yeah do it.

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:30.680
<v Speaker 1>And look, it doesn't have to be on a surface level.

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:33.159
<v Speaker 3>You can really like dig deep and like let someone

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 3>open up about themselves and be there to listen and

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 3>just you know, kind of like hold space for them.

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:42.960
<v Speaker 2>That's so underrated. I feel like like some women don't

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:46.119
<v Speaker 2>realize how important that is to a man. Like really, yeah,

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 2>Like I think for me, it's important that I have

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 2>a partner that I can go home to and I

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 2>can like speak to and they hold space for me

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 2>and I can talk to them and actually open up

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:56.880
<v Speaker 2>to them and tell them how I'm feeling about stuff,

0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 2>and there's no judgment on their end. They're just really receptive,

0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:03.119
<v Speaker 2>receptive to what I'm saying, and they give me that

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 2>time and like they look, you're not looking sometimes for

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 2>a solution. I know that black I've been told this

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 2>about women sometimes when they event they're not looking for

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:14.159
<v Speaker 2>a solution absolutely, like they just want someone to talk to.

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 1>They just want someone to listen.

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:17.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is hard for me. It took me a

0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:20.199
<v Speaker 2>while to realize that because I'm such a solution based person,

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:22.880
<v Speaker 2>so like I might bang, well we'll do this and this,

0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 2>we'll solve the problem. Yeah, and yeah, a lot of

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 2>guys sometimes don't want that. They just want someone there

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 2>to listen.

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:31.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I think it's important to remember that it's

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:34.639
<v Speaker 3>a two way street. So like if you're like, you know,

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 3>holding space for someone, you don't want someone who's just

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 3>going to constantly talk talk at you. I remember once

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 3>I dated this guy and he was just so self

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 3>obsessed and focused on talking about himself, and like I

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:49.160
<v Speaker 3>was happy to listen for a certain amount of time.

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 3>But then when you know someone's like not be like

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 3>asking you how you're doing and kind of like really

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 3>making it that two way street where you can both

0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 3>interact with each other. I think that it's also a

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 3>right flag as a woman that you have to look

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:03.320
<v Speaker 3>out for.

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:05.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty guilty of that because I grew up with

0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 2>my mom where like you could just talk at her

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:09.719
<v Speaker 2>and like my mom would just like loved us so

0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 2>much that she would just listen. So like I've taken

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 2>that into like my normal every day.

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 1>So I pulled you up on that, Yeah exactly.

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, where I just feel like I just talk at

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:19.960
<v Speaker 2>her and my mom loved us so much, just be

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 2>so receptive and want to hear all about it.

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 1>But your mum would have probably loved for you to

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 1>ask her.

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 2>How hard Sometimes sometimes when I pop into grab something

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 2>from my mom's like offstart just talking at her, and

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 2>she'd be like, well this happened to me, And I'm like, fuck, mom,

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:37.680
<v Speaker 2>just I'm not finished yet. I've gotten better. With age,

0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 2>I've gotten better.

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 3>You actually have gotten better, like I reckon, Like when

0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 3>we first became like close friends, sometimes you would talk

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 3>with me a little bit and I was like, anyway,

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 3>Michael and I are going, well, thank you for us.

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember you pulled me up on it and

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, so I make a conscious effort.

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 1>But you're like, you're like so much better now. It's

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 1>like a different person.

0:29:56.920 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is what I said earlier. Have a life

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:01.719
<v Speaker 2>outside it them, so like show them that you can

0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 2>be independent, you can have a balanced life between them

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 2>and your normal life, because no one likes a stage

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 2>five clean up life.

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 3>No, And I think it's important when you're in a relationship,

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 3>or when you get to a place in a relationship,

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 3>or even just when you're ready to date someone, Like

0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 3>when you're ready to go on a first date, you

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 3>don't want to be putting your absolute like everything into it.

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 3>Like if you're going on a first date, it shouldn't

0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 3>be the be all and end all of your year

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:30.120
<v Speaker 3>like that. It should be like, Okay, I'm going on

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 3>a date for two hours and then I've got work,

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:34.560
<v Speaker 3>I've got this planned, I've got this hobby, Like your

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 3>life should be complete without that date and if the

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 3>day goes well, that's great, but it can't be like

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 3>your sole focus because people feel that energy as well.

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean I've been guilty of this immersing myself

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:50.040
<v Speaker 2>into my relationships and it's just I feel like it

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 2>takes away from you and then it can turn the

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 2>other person off as well. I feel as well, Yeah,

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 2>like you got to find that balance.

0:30:57.320 --> 0:30:59.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's definitely about balance. Like we're not saying don't

0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 3>get excited, but it can't be the be all and

0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:02.719
<v Speaker 3>end all.

0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 2>I like this when they show you affectionately. We've spoken

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 2>about this on the podcast, Like touch him casually, like

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 2>slight touches break that boundary and some guys do like that,

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 2>and it does show that look from a complete guy's perspective,

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 2>if you're on like and you're trying to get this

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 2>guy to like you, if you're like touching him, it's

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 2>showing him that there is going to be a next

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 2>like a second base, and that that always keeps a

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:28.840
<v Speaker 2>guy like intrigued, you know what I mean to like,

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, they could like you a little bit and

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:32.360
<v Speaker 2>then you like touch on the arm or you like,

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, flirt with him in that way. They're like

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:37.600
<v Speaker 2>in their minds they're like, oh, okay, well you know

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:39.320
<v Speaker 2>this is going well, I could be you know.

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 1>Getting lucky. Is that what guys say? Yeah, that's so weird.

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I just I don't think about like anything sexual.

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 3>If a guy's like touching me, like or touches my

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 3>leg or like touches my shoulder or something, then I'm like,

0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 3>he likes me. Like that's just my initial thought, and

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 3>like he likes me.

0:31:56.880 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 2>I think I speak for a higher percentage of males

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 2>that if a woman touches you, you're going, all right, we're.

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 1>On really well. Fuck.

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:07.440
<v Speaker 3>There's been a lot of disappointed guys that I've gone

0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 3>on dates with.

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 2>That rubber in my wallet might be finally getting used.

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 3>Sick. Something that I think to make a guy like

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 3>obsessed with you, whether it's a first date, whether it's

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 3>like you know, five dates in or whether you're still

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 3>trying to like keep the sparks alive in your relationship,

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 3>is something that's so simple, and that's just smiling, being happy,

0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 3>having fun, enjoying life. This is what Michael said that

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 3>made him obsess with me, and interestingly, Matt, A study

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 3>by researchers at Stanford University found that people report a

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 3>more positive interaction with someone when they're smiling, like there's

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:52.800
<v Speaker 3>nothing worse than going on a date with someone and

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 3>they're just like stone faced.

0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that would be like I would probably cut that date,

0:32:57.320 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 2>asked for the bill, and get out of there early.

0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:01.880
<v Speaker 2>And from coming from a joker and a funny guy

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 2>as well. On that, if they're cracking jokes, just laugh,

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 2>make him feel like they're funny. It never hurts laugh

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:11.680
<v Speaker 2>at their jokes. If a girl's laughing at me, I'm like, yeah,

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 2>this girl's a vibe.

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 1>They're into me.

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, Like, I think it's definitely an important point

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 3>to like not take things too seriously, like to make

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:23.840
<v Speaker 3>things like herded like, you know, ladies, if he's not

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:25.200
<v Speaker 3>that funny, don't laugh at him.

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 2>I reckon too laugh at him. I reckon make him

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:28.959
<v Speaker 2>feel like he's funny.

0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:30.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think if he cracks a good joke

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 3>and it's warranted, like a laugh is warranted, then you

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 3>can get a laugh.

0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 1>It's a trash joke.

0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:38.840
<v Speaker 2>We're talking about the non toxic, not the toxic ones

0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:40.240
<v Speaker 2>we're getting.

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 3>Well, look, I think on that note, I think it's

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 3>just time we jumped straight into the toxi because these

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 3>ones are good. Something I love about the non toxic

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 3>ways to make someone obsessed with you, is that you're

0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 3>making someone like you for who you are. You're not

0:33:56.680 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 3>trying to trick them. But we are a generation who

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 3>loves toxic. I mean, you are renowned for loving the chase.

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 3>You love toxicity. You've spoken about it a lot when

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:11.280
<v Speaker 3>you were single. It was kind of like.

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Your go to.

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:14.880
<v Speaker 3>Have you ever been able to pinpoint what it is

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 3>that you love so much about like a toxic woman?

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about it, and I think it is, Yeah,

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 2>the chase and like not knowing exactly what the fuck's

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 2>going on, like not knowing where their heads at, not

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:32.720
<v Speaker 2>knowing like what's next, not knowing where you stand. Yeah,

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:36.920
<v Speaker 2>and I guess like feeling uncomfortable in that lack relationship,

0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Like right now I'm in a very happy relationship and

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 2>I feel so good. And to think that I used

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 2>to like strive in those things, it's just wild and

0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't ever want to go back there.

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:48.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it do you reckon?

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:51.319
<v Speaker 2>I would attract toxic people into my life because I

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 2>was toxic at the time.

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 3>I think so absolutely, Well, what is it. It's like

0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 3>the law of attraction. It's like what you are, you

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 3>attract and somehow you see to attract a lot of toxic.

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:05.319
<v Speaker 2>And that's a true statement because I reckon as soon

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:07.359
<v Speaker 2>as you and me had to chat and you said

0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:10.240
<v Speaker 2>you need to like sort of pull your head in

0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:14.280
<v Speaker 2>within week or two, I reckon Gen was a girlfriend.

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Fuck, he's really taking my advice on me.

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:18.680
<v Speaker 2>I reckon. It was like within a week because I

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 2>was in like a real toxic place, like mixing around

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 2>and not doing well for myself. Yeah, I reckon. We

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 2>had that chart and then that happened, So I reckon

0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:27.760
<v Speaker 2>the law of attraction's true in that respect.

0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, like obviously we all love toxic because it's

0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 3>the thrill of the chase. It's like this conquest that

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:37.279
<v Speaker 3>we like want to kind of like win. It's like

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 3>if someone's kind of like showing you signs that maybe

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:42.760
<v Speaker 3>they don't like you, then you're like, well, fuck you,

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:44.919
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna I'm gonna do everything I can.

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:47.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do everything in my power to win

0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:47.759
<v Speaker 1>you over.

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Even thinking about that gives me anxiety. It gives you

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 2>like the creeps like, yeah, and you're right, I reckon.

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:56.839
<v Speaker 2>As soon as like you felt like they didn't want

0:35:56.880 --> 0:35:58.799
<v Speaker 2>anything to do with Yeah, you're like, well, fucking earth,

0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to make you want something to do with me.

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's it's on that.

0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:02.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, so we do love toxic.

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:09.919
<v Speaker 3>But the thing about toxic situationships or relationships or even

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:12.560
<v Speaker 3>just like dating like first dates or whatever, when they

0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:18.839
<v Speaker 3>get toxic, you kind of end up chasing someone that

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 3>maybe you don't even like, do you know what I mean,

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 3>Like you don't even know them that well, but you

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 3>just put them on this massive pedestal.

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:26.839
<v Speaker 2>And updating them for a year.

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you've been there. Well, I mean it's true.

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:34.440
<v Speaker 3>And I mean that's why this toxic culture to make

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 3>people obsessed with you is so prevalent. Like there's so

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 3>much content on this on TikTok and YouTube, and you know,

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 3>people thrive on it. They love it because they're like,

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 3>how do I get this person who maybe might not

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:49.880
<v Speaker 3>have liked me to want me?

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And there's a lot of ways to do that.

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:54.759
<v Speaker 2>So if you think the non toxic way hasn't worked

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:56.880
<v Speaker 2>for you, this is where you have got to listen

0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 2>because this is definitely going to help you. But is

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:00.640
<v Speaker 2>it the guy you want or is it the girl

0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:00.960
<v Speaker 2>you want?

0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, no, it's not.

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 3>And this is what we want to stress, like, we

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 3>are going to give you the toxic version because we

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:09.719
<v Speaker 3>know you guys want them. But like I think if

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 3>it's going to be a serious relationship or someone who

0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 3>is actually going to fall in love with you for

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 3>the person you are, you need to go the non

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:18.959
<v Speaker 3>toxic route. Mabe.

0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:21.319
<v Speaker 2>Maybe these are good if someone's being toxic to you

0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:24.319
<v Speaker 2>to turn it over and make them chase you. Absolutely,

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:25.839
<v Speaker 2>and they take these points for that.

0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:29.919
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, Like if someone's being toxic and being like hot

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 3>and cold and you know, all of that good stuff,

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 3>maybe it's time for you to take back your power.

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:38.520
<v Speaker 3>So the first way to do that is find little

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 3>ways to reject them, because rejection breathes obsession.

0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 2>If that's like saying you're too busy to go on

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:49.200
<v Speaker 2>a date with them, or like rejecting plans they make

0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:52.879
<v Speaker 2>or canceling on them last second, that's definitely the way

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:53.319
<v Speaker 2>to do that.

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:55.719
<v Speaker 1>And it's definitely a great way to reel someone in.

0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:56.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean that.

0:37:57.040 --> 0:38:00.319
<v Speaker 3>You you know firsthand you love a bit of you

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:04.080
<v Speaker 3>love a bit of toxic rejection to really grow that obsession.

0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:07.360
<v Speaker 2>It does work, absolutely, And when you mix pleasure with pain,

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:09.799
<v Speaker 2>when the same person gives you both. It creates this

0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 2>psychological attachment style to him.

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:15.879
<v Speaker 3>That's like the person who you're thinking about twenty four

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 3>to seven. You're like, you know, are they going to

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:21.799
<v Speaker 3>message me back this time? Like I'm sending out this message,

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:24.319
<v Speaker 3>like who knows when they're going to reply? Like you know,

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:27.719
<v Speaker 3>I've dated a guy who, like you know, sometimes he

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:30.279
<v Speaker 3>would reply, sometimes he wouldn't, and it just made me

0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:32.799
<v Speaker 3>so obsessed with him. It was not healthy, Like I

0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:37.319
<v Speaker 3>was unhealthily obsessed with him, and it was literally because

0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:40.799
<v Speaker 3>he used every toxic trick in the book to make me,

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:42.560
<v Speaker 3>to put me in that place.

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:44.759
<v Speaker 2>I remember like checking your phone and seeing if it

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:46.799
<v Speaker 2>was the person you're messaging and then it wasn't, and

0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:50.319
<v Speaker 2>then then your heart, oh oh, don't hate me back there.

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:53.920
<v Speaker 3>I think something that you have to be willing to

0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:57.920
<v Speaker 3>do when dating is to be willing to walk away

0:38:58.200 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 3>and to just do it effortlessly, you know, cut communication

0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:06.319
<v Speaker 3>if someone is treating you in a specific way to

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:09.200
<v Speaker 3>get them to come back, and to watch them come

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 3>like basically running back. I think being able to walk

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:15.359
<v Speaker 3>away and mentally walk away, so.

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:18.479
<v Speaker 2>Just ghost them essentially and.

0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Then essentially like and I mean it's so toxic.

0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:24.000
<v Speaker 3>But like if someone does something you don't like, you know,

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:26.839
<v Speaker 3>you're just like, okay, cut You're done just having that,

0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:29.799
<v Speaker 3>Like it's kind of like almost being able to pull

0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 3>out your emotions from it, or being stubborn enough to

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:34.680
<v Speaker 3>be like, I'm not putting up with this.

0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:37.279
<v Speaker 2>I've been always fascinated by my mates that can do that.

0:39:37.360 --> 0:39:39.759
<v Speaker 2>I've never been able just to walk away and just

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 2>not like you know what I mean, it's just for me.

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:43.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, But that's.

0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Because your feelings are involved.

0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:48.680
<v Speaker 3>I feel like feelings have to be either, Like you know,

0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 3>some people don't let themselves feel past a certain point,

0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:54.360
<v Speaker 3>like people cut off their emotions.

0:39:54.840 --> 0:39:57.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, what a happy life they must unhappy? But

0:39:57.560 --> 0:40:01.600
<v Speaker 2>what a blissful life they must live. What a blissful life.

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:04.040
<v Speaker 3>I think as well, Like if you're gonna make someone

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:06.799
<v Speaker 3>obsessed with you, you have to have the inner confidence and

0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:10.239
<v Speaker 3>essentially be obsessed with yourself, like you need to be

0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:13.279
<v Speaker 3>like I am the best catch there is out there.

0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:15.880
<v Speaker 3>They would be lucky to have me. And you know,

0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:20.439
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of like manifesting, like where like you see

0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 3>yourself on this pedestal and so therefore they kind of

0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:25.479
<v Speaker 3>see you on that pedestal as well.

0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:28.359
<v Speaker 2>Put yourself on that pedestal. Don't don't let them wait

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:30.240
<v Speaker 2>for them to do it. Put yourself up there.

0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 1>And we all know you do this.

0:40:31.800 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm already sitting up there loud and proud this one.

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:40.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, don't sleep with them straight away.

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 3>This is this is handbook rules, like number one for me.

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:48.919
<v Speaker 3>This is like I think there's you know, we talk

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:50.040
<v Speaker 3>a lot about.

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:53.480
<v Speaker 2>How I think there's a fine line you do. Yeah,

0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:55.520
<v Speaker 2>I think five dates for you, i'd be out by

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 2>like the third.

0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 1>No, you wouldn't. You absolutely wouldn't.

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:01.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, because that's that's like long haul stuff

0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:02.880
<v Speaker 2>that's like five days.

0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:05.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But like if you're looking for a relationship, I

0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:08.600
<v Speaker 3>think that if someone is going to wait five days

0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:10.719
<v Speaker 3>to sleep with you for like I don't know, say

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:13.160
<v Speaker 3>you go out with them for a year, Like, it's

0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:15.160
<v Speaker 3>not the worst, is it? Yeah?

0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:16.480
<v Speaker 2>I meant you put it in that. But when you're

0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:18.160
<v Speaker 2>out dating and you know that you're not looking for

0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:19.840
<v Speaker 2>a relationship.

0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:21.840
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think for me, the reason why I do

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:24.600
<v Speaker 3>the five date rulers because I'm like, well, you know,

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:26.719
<v Speaker 3>at a minimum, they're going to get to know me

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:28.399
<v Speaker 3>for like an hour each day.

0:41:28.520 --> 0:41:29.160
<v Speaker 1>This is minimum.

0:41:29.239 --> 0:41:31.840
<v Speaker 3>Let's say a date goes two hours. That's ten hours

0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:34.440
<v Speaker 3>of getting to know me and me getting to know

0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 3>them equally. So like they know me, I know them

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:40.359
<v Speaker 3>now I feel comfortable to have sex with them, and

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:44.160
<v Speaker 3>like also I feel like, you know, guys kind of

0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:47.759
<v Speaker 3>sometimes need to create that attachment by getting to know

0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:49.839
<v Speaker 3>you before they have sex with you to then really

0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:51.959
<v Speaker 3>be like, oh my god, I'm obsessed. And I think

0:41:52.040 --> 0:41:54.800
<v Speaker 3>that's why this has fallen in the toxic category.

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:59.320
<v Speaker 2>Hypothetically, you spend those ten hours for investments. You're investing

0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:01.799
<v Speaker 2>in this person. Yeah, it's all going well, you go

0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:04.440
<v Speaker 2>to the shag wagon, you go up there, you're in bed,

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:07.240
<v Speaker 2>and it's the absolute worst lay you've ever had. Wouldn't

0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:07.879
<v Speaker 2>you just feel like.

0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I'd been them?

0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:12.200
<v Speaker 2>So you've invested all this time?

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:15.759
<v Speaker 3>Well, like maybe maybe like look, maybe if they're bad

0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:17.919
<v Speaker 3>in bed, then maybe you might put some time into

0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 3>helping them, like curate this a lot.

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:22.839
<v Speaker 2>Of time into something.

0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:24.759
<v Speaker 3>That could just well, I mean, look, anyone can be

0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:26.839
<v Speaker 3>bad in bed, So I mean that's just the rule,

0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:27.239
<v Speaker 3>is it.

0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is. That's that's investing. You know. I thought

0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:31.719
<v Speaker 2>it might go, might pay dividends, it might not.

0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think holding your dignity at any sign of

0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:41.200
<v Speaker 3>disrespect is one that I actually don't think is that toxic,

0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:43.640
<v Speaker 3>But I like, I know I'm a little bit toxic,

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:46.640
<v Speaker 3>but this for me doesn't fall under the toxic category.

0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:49.359
<v Speaker 3>So like, if you feel disrespected by a guy in

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:52.320
<v Speaker 3>any way, to hold your dignity and be like that's

0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 3>not okay, I don't appreciate that, and just telling people straight.

0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:58.560
<v Speaker 2>So that means if you feel disrespected by a guy

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 2>early on while you're dating, to call them out on it.

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:03.560
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, And I would, I would always do this. And

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:05.280
<v Speaker 3>I know you're looking at me like I'm being toxic,

0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:06.480
<v Speaker 3>but I don't think that's toxic.

0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's toxic either. I think I think.

0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:12.239
<v Speaker 3>That's like being straightforward with something obviously on like the

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:14.960
<v Speaker 3>first like let's say two dates, like it's nice to

0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:17.799
<v Speaker 3>be polite and like, you know, it's we all want

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:19.799
<v Speaker 3>to just have a good time, get to know each other,

0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:22.000
<v Speaker 3>see for on a like a playing field where we

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:23.799
<v Speaker 3>kind of are wanting.

0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 1>The same things.

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:26.919
<v Speaker 3>Once we get to like date three, if someone does

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:29.719
<v Speaker 3>something where I'm feeling disrespected, I mean, even date one,

0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:31.719
<v Speaker 3>if someone did something where I was disrespected, I would

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:33.919
<v Speaker 3>probably be like, I don't appreciate that.

0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 2>It depends on that.

0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 1>It depends on the circumstances.

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Definitely ghost and you wouldn't talk to them again. I

0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:41.480
<v Speaker 2>feel like, yeah, just be like nah.

0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you're out. You struck our first guy.

0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:47.319
<v Speaker 2>And I like that though, So I reckon. We put

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:50.360
<v Speaker 2>that into the non toxic because I reckon. A strong minded,

0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:52.239
<v Speaker 2>independent woman, like I said before.

0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Is hot, but that's not for everyone.

0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:56.759
<v Speaker 3>Like I remember when and I know this is like

0:43:56.880 --> 0:44:00.480
<v Speaker 3>such a random like example, but when we were on Loveland,

0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:04.880
<v Speaker 3>I remember Owen was kind of like had me and

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:09.040
<v Speaker 3>Jesse both on the go and was he actually said

0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:11.720
<v Speaker 3>to me on Love Island. This is such a random example,

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 3>but it's just literally come to my mind. He literally

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:15.799
<v Speaker 3>said to me like, I'm gonna choose you over Jesse.

0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:18.759
<v Speaker 3>And then he still hadn't made a decision. So that

0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:20.319
<v Speaker 3>night I went up to him and I was like,

0:44:20.360 --> 0:44:23.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm not playing this game with you. I'm not gonna

0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:26.400
<v Speaker 3>do this, Like you need to make your decision otherwise

0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:28.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm like moving on. And the next day he chose

0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:30.520
<v Speaker 3>Jesse because he couldn't like, so.

0:44:30.520 --> 0:44:32.400
<v Speaker 2>You reckon he couldn't take that strong.

0:44:32.840 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 3>Well, everyone's different, Like you love a strong woman, you know,

0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:37.399
<v Speaker 3>Michael loves a strong woman.

0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:40.319
<v Speaker 1>That's why he's with me. But like, some guys want

0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:43.240
<v Speaker 1>to be the alpha, and like I.

0:44:43.040 --> 0:44:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Think they want that masculinity.

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like they want to be like the boss.

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:51.240
<v Speaker 3>And I think it can like either like really work

0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:53.680
<v Speaker 3>or it can go in the opposite direction where a

0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:56.680
<v Speaker 3>guy will be like, you're too strong for me, And

0:44:56.719 --> 0:44:59.360
<v Speaker 3>I think, look, if you're a strong woman, be strong

0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:01.680
<v Speaker 3>like you. I want someone who can handle that. If

0:45:01.719 --> 0:45:05.239
<v Speaker 3>someone is like threatened by that, then like fuck them off.

0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, I think there is a fine line. Like obviously,

0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:11.280
<v Speaker 2>I think every man, like and myself, wants to feel

0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:15.319
<v Speaker 2>masculine and wants to be like the person.

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:17.280
<v Speaker 1>That's like somewhat dominant dominant.

0:45:17.360 --> 0:45:20.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but then again, I don't mind for a girl

0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:22.440
<v Speaker 2>to take like the lead on some sort of stuff.

0:45:22.440 --> 0:45:25.719
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm like, yeah, whatever, absolutely chill with me. Like

0:45:26.160 --> 0:45:28.239
<v Speaker 2>I like that a girl, like you know the old

0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:30.480
<v Speaker 2>cliche thing that they always say when there's like a

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:32.319
<v Speaker 2>girl doesn't know what she wants to eat or what

0:45:32.360 --> 0:45:34.440
<v Speaker 2>she wants to drinks, like I don't care, Like I

0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:36.920
<v Speaker 2>don't like that that does that Like that actually frustrates me.

0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:38.960
<v Speaker 2>I just if I don't because I really don't care,

0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 2>so I might I'm just gonna sit here forever just

0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:43.279
<v Speaker 2>being like you know what I mean. So I like

0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:45.759
<v Speaker 2>that's I like him just be like that straight down

0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:47.640
<v Speaker 2>and this is what we're doing sort of thing.

0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:50.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and like look and everyone's different, like some guys

0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:53.640
<v Speaker 3>might be like I want to take the lead in order,

0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:56.839
<v Speaker 3>but like you know, it's also I guess when you're

0:45:56.920 --> 0:45:59.160
<v Speaker 3>dating about getting to know people, getting to know what

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:02.360
<v Speaker 3>they're like and whats are. But yeah, like I think

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:06.239
<v Speaker 3>it really is like dependent on the person. But I

0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:11.680
<v Speaker 3>think that another toxic way to make someone obsess with

0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:15.400
<v Speaker 3>you is to kind of make them prove themselves to you,

0:46:16.120 --> 0:46:18.840
<v Speaker 3>not the other way around. So like, for instance, like

0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:21.600
<v Speaker 3>if I go out on a first date. A lot

0:46:21.640 --> 0:46:23.680
<v Speaker 3>of the time when we go on dates, we're kind

0:46:23.680 --> 0:46:26.560
<v Speaker 3>of like I really want them to like me. But

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 3>you need to kind of like change your mindset if

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:33.799
<v Speaker 3>you're playing that toxic game and be like kind of like, well,

0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:35.879
<v Speaker 3>what are you bringing to the table? What do you

0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:37.800
<v Speaker 3>offer me in a relationship?

0:46:37.960 --> 0:46:39.960
<v Speaker 1>A little bit toxic, A lot of bit toxic. I

0:46:40.000 --> 0:46:41.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know, what do you think?

0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I reckon this one could go either way because like

0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:46.200
<v Speaker 2>I feel like if you there's a I think there's

0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:48.320
<v Speaker 2>a fine line to make it not toxic and toxic.

0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:51.239
<v Speaker 2>Really like you should always go into the mentality of

0:46:51.320 --> 0:46:54.520
<v Speaker 2>dates when you're dating, of like what are you bringing me? Do?

0:46:54.600 --> 0:46:56.640
<v Speaker 2>I like you? Yeah, but like don't make it so

0:46:56.719 --> 0:47:00.279
<v Speaker 2>you make them feel insignificant and like suppress them. Do

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:03.640
<v Speaker 2>it in a nice way where they know that they're like,

0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:06.640
<v Speaker 2>but if you want to go full toxic, just fucking

0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:08.759
<v Speaker 2>make them feel like shit and make them feel like

0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:10.680
<v Speaker 2>they're constantly climbing a ladder where they're never going to

0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:11.120
<v Speaker 2>get there.

0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:13.000
<v Speaker 1>That is so bad.

0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:16.800
<v Speaker 2>And you just keep pulling that ladder higher and higher

0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:19.440
<v Speaker 2>and they're just trying to get never ending ladder of

0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:20.720
<v Speaker 2>them trying to impress you.

0:47:20.600 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 3>Look, give them a preview to what life would be

0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:25.000
<v Speaker 3>like with you. I don't think this is toxic, but

0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:28.080
<v Speaker 3>like you know, like put your best foot forward, especially

0:47:28.080 --> 0:47:31.719
<v Speaker 3>for the first few dates. You know, Like the thing

0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:33.360
<v Speaker 3>is is in life, we all just want to have

0:47:33.440 --> 0:47:35.239
<v Speaker 3>a good time. We want to have fun, we want

0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:36.960
<v Speaker 3>things to be positive. And happy and we know that

0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:41.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, that's not life, that's not reality, Like shit happens,

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 3>bad things can happen, but you know when you're going

0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:47.160
<v Speaker 3>on those dates, like I think it's like good to

0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:50.000
<v Speaker 3>kind of like, you know, be the best version of you.

0:47:50.760 --> 0:47:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Imagine dating a girl like a couple of dates, so

0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:55.040
<v Speaker 2>dating a guy should I say, or just dating someone

0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:58.160
<v Speaker 2>a couple of dates in and then like something goes

0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:00.279
<v Speaker 2>wrong and you get to see their full fun can

0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:03.640
<v Speaker 2>like you know what I mean, side I crack it

0:48:03.719 --> 0:48:05.280
<v Speaker 2>and they're like getting real frustrated.

0:48:05.320 --> 0:48:08.240
<v Speaker 1>You'd be like, hell no, probably don't show.

0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Them that preview of you. I reckon I would have

0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:12.560
<v Speaker 2>scared Genoway and a lot of girls in my life

0:48:13.000 --> 0:48:13.720
<v Speaker 2>done that early.

0:48:13.920 --> 0:48:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I think we could have all scared a lot of

0:48:15.640 --> 0:48:17.719
<v Speaker 1>people away. We were like our Like.

0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:20.239
<v Speaker 3>The thing is is it's not really your authentic self.

0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:22.239
<v Speaker 3>It's like you on a bad day or like you

0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:25.040
<v Speaker 3>when you're at like optimum ten out of ten stress levels,

0:48:25.040 --> 0:48:27.600
<v Speaker 3>So like we're not always like that, and yeah, we

0:48:27.760 --> 0:48:33.080
<v Speaker 3>just like probably don't show them This one. I love

0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:35.040
<v Speaker 3>because I feel like it kind of relates to me

0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:37.360
<v Speaker 3>and Michael, and that is to give people space and

0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:40.960
<v Speaker 3>allow them to admire you from a distance. So when

0:48:41.040 --> 0:48:44.319
<v Speaker 3>Michael and I met, we met at the Spie at

0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:47.640
<v Speaker 3>the Beauty and the Geek event. Interestingly, I was still

0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:50.759
<v Speaker 3>kind of like talking to the guy who I was

0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:55.799
<v Speaker 3>no I was already seeing someone, and things with me

0:48:55.880 --> 0:48:59.840
<v Speaker 3>and him were kind of like deteriorating and going to

0:49:00.320 --> 0:49:03.360
<v Speaker 3>and shit was hitting the fan. And Michael had followed

0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:06.000
<v Speaker 3>me on Instagram. I followed him back. But then you know,

0:49:06.080 --> 0:49:07.840
<v Speaker 3>there was kind of a bit of like space. He

0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:10.080
<v Speaker 3>would message me here, he would message me there, but

0:49:10.120 --> 0:49:12.200
<v Speaker 3>there was kind of like a month and a half

0:49:12.960 --> 0:49:15.480
<v Speaker 3>where like he kind of just watched my stories and

0:49:15.560 --> 0:49:18.120
<v Speaker 3>kind of like you know, we kind of like admired

0:49:18.120 --> 0:49:20.799
<v Speaker 3>each other from afar, you could say, and kind of

0:49:20.840 --> 0:49:23.520
<v Speaker 3>built up some of the attraction maybe, and like we

0:49:23.600 --> 0:49:25.560
<v Speaker 3>tried to catch up here and there, but it didn't

0:49:25.600 --> 0:49:28.640
<v Speaker 3>work out. And like when we first initially tried to

0:49:28.680 --> 0:49:31.640
<v Speaker 3>catch up, obviously I had ended things with the other guy,

0:49:32.840 --> 0:49:35.040
<v Speaker 3>I was still a little bit upset about what had

0:49:35.080 --> 0:49:38.600
<v Speaker 3>happened in the other situation. Like Michael was kind of

0:49:38.640 --> 0:49:40.960
<v Speaker 3>like this sounds terrible, but like kind of like more

0:49:41.000 --> 0:49:44.279
<v Speaker 3>of like that rebound like in my head, like that

0:49:44.440 --> 0:49:47.600
<v Speaker 3>type of mentality. But yeah, like we tried. Me and

0:49:47.640 --> 0:49:50.440
<v Speaker 3>Michael actually tried to catch up and then it didn't

0:49:50.480 --> 0:49:53.200
<v Speaker 3>work out. And it wasn't like I wasn't like freaked

0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:55.200
<v Speaker 3>out about it. I wasn't like immediately trying to like

0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:58.279
<v Speaker 3>reschedule a time. Like it was kind of like I

0:49:58.320 --> 0:50:00.400
<v Speaker 3>think I think he was out on like a Friday

0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:02.120
<v Speaker 3>night with his friends and he knew I was out,

0:50:02.160 --> 0:50:03.400
<v Speaker 3>and he was like, oh, we should catch up for

0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:05.600
<v Speaker 3>a drink if you're free, But then both of us

0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:08.160
<v Speaker 3>didn't end up being free, and then we kind of

0:50:08.200 --> 0:50:10.759
<v Speaker 3>just left it like it was. We didn't like make

0:50:11.160 --> 0:50:14.319
<v Speaker 3>new plans or schedule new plans, And then I'm kind

0:50:14.360 --> 0:50:16.719
<v Speaker 3>of glad that we kind of did that and gave

0:50:16.760 --> 0:50:20.480
<v Speaker 3>each other's space because when we were both in a

0:50:20.520 --> 0:50:23.879
<v Speaker 3>good mental place to meet, we did so. Like when

0:50:24.000 --> 0:50:26.759
<v Speaker 3>I finally was like a camp totally over this other guy,

0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:30.400
<v Speaker 3>like he's a fucking idiot, I'm like not moving on

0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:33.600
<v Speaker 3>due to like rebound. I'm moving on because like I'm

0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:36.120
<v Speaker 3>actually ready to. That was like the best time for

0:50:36.200 --> 0:50:37.879
<v Speaker 3>us to meet, and that's why I think it kind

0:50:37.880 --> 0:50:38.480
<v Speaker 3>of worked.

0:50:38.719 --> 0:50:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of that and now our partners, I admired from

0:50:42.080 --> 0:50:45.320
<v Speaker 2>a far gen for six years. Yeah, and then like again,

0:50:45.440 --> 0:50:47.479
<v Speaker 2>I messaged her and I was like, are you ready

0:50:47.480 --> 0:50:49.360
<v Speaker 2>to rock and roll? And then she was like, not

0:50:49.480 --> 0:50:52.000
<v Speaker 2>right now, I'm still in that stage. And I said

0:50:52.080 --> 0:50:53.880
<v Speaker 2>I respect that. And then two months later, yes, she

0:50:53.880 --> 0:50:55.000
<v Speaker 2>messed me and said she was ready to get a

0:50:55.040 --> 0:50:58.160
<v Speaker 2>drink kid. Yeah, so that's like a good point. Yeah,

0:50:58.520 --> 0:51:01.840
<v Speaker 2>these aren't even that toxic. Depends how to be honest.

0:51:02.320 --> 0:51:04.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, a person would take these and would make

0:51:05.000 --> 0:51:07.719
<v Speaker 2>them toxic. I reckon it's more reflect on yourself. If

0:51:07.719 --> 0:51:10.879
<v Speaker 2>you're listening to these and you think they're toxic, maybe reflect.

0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:14.640
<v Speaker 3>There definitely are some that are toxic. But I also

0:51:14.760 --> 0:51:16.680
<v Speaker 3>think that we have a little bit of toxic in us,

0:51:16.680 --> 0:51:18.000
<v Speaker 3>which we're not afraid to admit.

0:51:18.280 --> 0:51:20.480
<v Speaker 1>And that's so I were like, hmm, is that that toxic?

0:51:20.680 --> 0:51:21.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:51:22.200 --> 0:51:23.760
<v Speaker 2>We're like, no, they're not that toxic.

0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're the toxic one.

0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:27.839
<v Speaker 3>And then I think the last one that we want

0:51:27.880 --> 0:51:29.360
<v Speaker 3>to touch on is a triangle effect.

0:51:29.440 --> 0:51:30.360
<v Speaker 1>We touched on this before.

0:51:30.400 --> 0:51:34.880
<v Speaker 3>It's left eye looking in the right eye, down to

0:51:34.960 --> 0:51:38.759
<v Speaker 3>the mouth, and then back up to both eyes. It's

0:51:38.880 --> 0:51:42.880
<v Speaker 3>just it's sexy as a guy, you probably have every

0:51:42.920 --> 0:51:46.240
<v Speaker 3>girl's done this year and you haven't even noticed, honestly,

0:51:46.360 --> 0:51:50.359
<v Speaker 3>Like it's kind of like builds that sexual tension and

0:51:50.440 --> 0:51:54.000
<v Speaker 3>like that kind of like feeling in the air of like, oh,

0:51:54.160 --> 0:51:57.000
<v Speaker 3>like this is like I mean, this is like more

0:51:57.040 --> 0:51:59.160
<v Speaker 3>like for a woman, I would say where we're like,

0:51:59.320 --> 0:52:01.400
<v Speaker 3>this could be like moving in the right direction.

0:52:02.080 --> 0:52:03.640
<v Speaker 1>This could be a second base. I don't even know

0:52:03.680 --> 0:52:06.160
<v Speaker 1>what second base is. This could be moving to like

0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:07.200
<v Speaker 1>something a bit more.

0:52:07.640 --> 0:52:09.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think right now when you say that,

0:52:09.520 --> 0:52:12.600
<v Speaker 2>if I've ever seen that and not, I don't feel

0:52:12.600 --> 0:52:14.880
<v Speaker 2>like I have, but I feel like I felt what

0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:16.600
<v Speaker 2>comes after it, if you know what I mean.

0:52:16.719 --> 0:52:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I think your ex, yeah, did it to you?

0:52:19.760 --> 0:52:20.120
<v Speaker 2>Reckon?

0:52:20.239 --> 0:52:22.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I actually saw that with my own eyes.

0:52:22.880 --> 0:52:25.080
<v Speaker 3>When you're like, I don't think that's happened to Hi,

0:52:25.080 --> 0:52:26.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, it definitely have.

0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:31.480
<v Speaker 2>She had a different way of doing things. She was Yeah,

0:52:32.000 --> 0:52:33.160
<v Speaker 2>she knew what she was doing with that.

0:52:36.560 --> 0:52:39.400
<v Speaker 3>Okay, well, look it's that time of the show where

0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:41.239
<v Speaker 3>we find out where our heads are at.

0:52:41.320 --> 0:52:47.120
<v Speaker 2>Don't go anywhere, let's get into it, all right. So

0:52:47.160 --> 0:52:49.160
<v Speaker 2>you're about to ask us where our heads are at.

0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:51.839
<v Speaker 2>This first one comes in from Stacy.

0:52:52.320 --> 0:52:55.440
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so Stacey has said, I'm struggling to get guys

0:52:55.480 --> 0:52:58.600
<v Speaker 3>to stay interested in me after a first date. The

0:52:58.640 --> 0:53:02.399
<v Speaker 3>conversation usually to die after the first date, and I'm

0:53:02.400 --> 0:53:05.440
<v Speaker 3>trying my best not to come across desperate. How do

0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:06.719
<v Speaker 3>I make him obsessed with me?

0:53:08.719 --> 0:53:16.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Stacy, I reckon maybe your check game shit. Honestly,

0:53:17.000 --> 0:53:18.799
<v Speaker 2>what do you I think you should take away our

0:53:18.840 --> 0:53:21.359
<v Speaker 2>tips that we've said here and see where it goes

0:53:21.360 --> 0:53:23.960
<v Speaker 2>from there. Obviously, I think maybe you're picking guys that

0:53:24.040 --> 0:53:26.799
<v Speaker 2>aren't interested in going on more than a first date. Yeah,

0:53:26.800 --> 0:53:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I like that. Maybe you, like I said, maybe your

0:53:30.520 --> 0:53:31.560
<v Speaker 2>check game is a bit shit.

0:53:31.760 --> 0:53:34.879
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'll tell her her check game.

0:53:35.160 --> 0:53:37.240
<v Speaker 2>Well, maybe it's not so much. It could be anyhiw

0:53:37.239 --> 0:53:39.000
<v Speaker 2>it could be the guys that they're not interested in

0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:41.400
<v Speaker 2>going on another date. I think if a couple of

0:53:41.440 --> 0:53:44.280
<v Speaker 2>guys are not wanting to go on a second day, then.

0:53:44.719 --> 0:53:50.520
<v Speaker 1>It's chat the reflection of you. Nah, that's so mean. Look,

0:53:50.560 --> 0:53:52.360
<v Speaker 1>I think she could be meeting the wrong guys.

0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Is that option as well?

0:53:53.640 --> 0:53:55.680
<v Speaker 3>You know, like there's a lot of times where you

0:53:55.840 --> 0:53:58.600
<v Speaker 3>meet someone and you're just like, it's not you. It's

0:53:58.640 --> 0:54:01.520
<v Speaker 3>literally just that there's no like you're a great person,

0:54:01.640 --> 0:54:03.800
<v Speaker 3>there's no like sparks and connection.

0:54:04.040 --> 0:54:06.560
<v Speaker 2>So honestly, Stacey, I don't think worry. I think that

0:54:06.600 --> 0:54:08.960
<v Speaker 2>if you keep going on these first dates, let's think

0:54:08.960 --> 0:54:10.880
<v Speaker 2>about it, what's the worst thing that's happening. You're getting

0:54:10.880 --> 0:54:13.000
<v Speaker 2>to meet new people, You're getting a free feed, a

0:54:13.080 --> 0:54:14.000
<v Speaker 2>free drink.

0:54:13.800 --> 0:54:16.040
<v Speaker 1>If they're paying hope.

0:54:16.120 --> 0:54:19.080
<v Speaker 2>So but like you know what I mean, Like you're learning,

0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:22.720
<v Speaker 2>and I feel like people forget actually the fun side

0:54:22.719 --> 0:54:23.200
<v Speaker 2>of dating.

0:54:23.480 --> 0:54:25.959
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a learning experience as well, Like we learn

0:54:26.080 --> 0:54:29.520
<v Speaker 3>things we like grow Like Also, like I guess like

0:54:29.680 --> 0:54:32.560
<v Speaker 3>maybe come at it from the angle, like you know,

0:54:33.160 --> 0:54:36.399
<v Speaker 3>what are they doing to like make me interested in them?

0:54:36.440 --> 0:54:39.200
<v Speaker 3>As opposed to like why don't they like me? Obviously,

0:54:39.239 --> 0:54:41.880
<v Speaker 3>Like no one wants to feel desperate and like rejection

0:54:42.080 --> 0:54:44.840
<v Speaker 3>sucks and it is such a hard pill to swallow

0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:47.359
<v Speaker 3>when you feel like kind of like the messages are

0:54:47.440 --> 0:54:50.279
<v Speaker 3>kind of like weaning off or dying down, especially if

0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:52.120
<v Speaker 3>you go on the first day and you're actually like,

0:54:52.360 --> 0:54:55.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm into this person. But I guess my

0:54:55.440 --> 0:54:58.399
<v Speaker 3>advice would be keep dating, keep putting yourself out there

0:54:58.760 --> 0:55:01.280
<v Speaker 3>and see what works, and there will be someone who'll

0:55:01.280 --> 0:55:03.880
<v Speaker 3>come along who'll be like, this is a cool chick,

0:55:04.400 --> 0:55:06.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, let's see how it goes. I think maybe

0:55:06.719 --> 0:55:08.760
<v Speaker 3>just don't come on like super strong at the start,

0:55:08.880 --> 0:55:12.239
<v Speaker 3>like have fun, enjoy the day. You know, we've given

0:55:12.280 --> 0:55:14.719
<v Speaker 3>a lot of tips on this episode and kind of

0:55:14.719 --> 0:55:15.960
<v Speaker 3>try and implement some of them.

0:55:16.080 --> 0:55:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Stacy, I reckon, try this for your next date. Okay,

0:55:20.520 --> 0:55:23.839
<v Speaker 2>maybe you say, okay, hey, you've organized a date. But

0:55:23.920 --> 0:55:25.719
<v Speaker 2>then you say you've got a flat tire. So you

0:55:25.760 --> 0:55:27.480
<v Speaker 2>go out, give yourself a punch out. You ask them

0:55:27.520 --> 0:55:30.120
<v Speaker 2>to do a favor. They come change a tire. As

0:55:30.120 --> 0:55:32.719
<v Speaker 2>they're there, you compliment them, they say how handy they are.

0:55:33.040 --> 0:55:35.600
<v Speaker 2>The whole time. You keep eye contact. So you're keeping

0:55:35.640 --> 0:55:38.919
<v Speaker 2>eye contact with them, but remember to use their name,

0:55:39.360 --> 0:55:41.680
<v Speaker 2>so you call them by name the whole time. After

0:55:41.680 --> 0:55:44.400
<v Speaker 2>a while, you mirror their gestures while they're changing it tire.

0:55:44.840 --> 0:55:47.239
<v Speaker 2>You pick up what they're saying. Don't be scared to

0:55:47.239 --> 0:55:49.279
<v Speaker 2>show them your floor. So Stacy and I don't mean

0:55:49.320 --> 0:55:51.319
<v Speaker 2>the real ones. I mean just little ones, like you've

0:55:51.320 --> 0:55:52.920
<v Speaker 2>got a dirty car, be like, oh, I'm going to

0:55:53.000 --> 0:55:56.960
<v Speaker 2>clean it. Expect good things from him. So pick a

0:55:56.960 --> 0:55:58.120
<v Speaker 2>guy that you're acting.

0:55:58.680 --> 0:56:01.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to start here right here. Thank you so much,

0:56:01.160 --> 0:56:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Matt for the advice. Everyone's already heard the podcast.

0:56:04.239 --> 0:56:06.879
<v Speaker 2>This is the This is the Ultimate date on how

0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:10.600
<v Speaker 2>to make him obsessed with you touch him casually as

0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:12.799
<v Speaker 2>changing your tire, you know what that.

0:56:12.960 --> 0:56:14.000
<v Speaker 1>With the whole touching thing.

0:56:14.080 --> 0:56:16.959
<v Speaker 3>Like, I actually hate it when, like I'm not into

0:56:17.000 --> 0:56:18.239
<v Speaker 3>a guy and they touched.

0:56:18.000 --> 0:56:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Me too much.

0:56:18.520 --> 0:56:20.600
<v Speaker 3>So I would say, like, especially for a first date,

0:56:21.160 --> 0:56:23.120
<v Speaker 3>if you if you're not one hundred percent sure that

0:56:23.160 --> 0:56:25.080
<v Speaker 3>they're into you, like I would keep the touching to

0:56:25.160 --> 0:56:27.319
<v Speaker 3>like a minimum like here and there. That's fine, But

0:56:27.360 --> 0:56:30.600
<v Speaker 3>like I get the ike. If a guy's like overtouching me,

0:56:31.040 --> 0:56:32.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna put that that's.

0:56:32.000 --> 0:56:33.640
<v Speaker 2>A guy for girl. It's a bit different when a

0:56:33.680 --> 0:56:34.680
<v Speaker 2>girl's touching a guy.

0:56:34.920 --> 0:56:36.799
<v Speaker 1>True, well is it? I don't know.

0:56:37.000 --> 0:56:42.120
<v Speaker 3>We both were all out there being like, who's this person? Okay,

0:56:42.120 --> 0:56:46.000
<v Speaker 3>So the next one has come in from Jemima. She

0:56:46.200 --> 0:56:50.080
<v Speaker 3>has written in saying what fragrances male and female can

0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:52.160
<v Speaker 3>you use to make them obsessed with you?

0:56:52.239 --> 0:56:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Fuck? We haven't even spoken about fragrances, Matt.

0:56:55.120 --> 0:57:00.640
<v Speaker 2>I reckon Britney spears fantasy I reckon that's such a

0:57:01.080 --> 0:57:03.080
<v Speaker 2>such a it's just a good smelling one. And I

0:57:03.120 --> 0:57:05.120
<v Speaker 2>think that like it could go one or two ways.

0:57:05.160 --> 0:57:09.600
<v Speaker 2>You could have one that I literally have, Like my

0:57:09.760 --> 0:57:14.200
<v Speaker 2>sister wears my exes perfume. Amber, our producer, wears another

0:57:14.200 --> 0:57:17.360
<v Speaker 2>one of my exes every time, like they come to me.

0:57:17.400 --> 0:57:19.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh Jesus, that reminds me of thing that

0:57:19.280 --> 0:57:22.400
<v Speaker 2>reminds you things I could go could go either way really, Like.

0:57:22.600 --> 0:57:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what?

0:57:23.520 --> 0:57:26.320
<v Speaker 3>Once I was seeing this guy and we were at

0:57:26.400 --> 0:57:29.800
<v Speaker 3>Maya and he literally pointed out this fragrance to me

0:57:29.840 --> 0:57:32.560
<v Speaker 3>and he was like, oh my god, I love this fragrance.

0:57:32.600 --> 0:57:33.360
<v Speaker 1>You should get it.

0:57:33.480 --> 0:57:35.320
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, what is it? I was like,

0:57:35.680 --> 0:57:38.040
<v Speaker 3>I was like, don't tell me, this is your exes perfume.

0:57:38.160 --> 0:57:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I kid you not.

0:57:40.240 --> 0:57:43.320
<v Speaker 3>It was like, yeah, I just love this smell. I

0:57:43.400 --> 0:57:46.000
<v Speaker 3>was like, you love your ex you freak?

0:57:46.160 --> 0:57:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Like what do you mean?

0:57:47.200 --> 0:57:49.880
<v Speaker 3>Like that's I can't believe that I'm seeing a guy

0:57:49.960 --> 0:57:50.840
<v Speaker 3>who's telling.

0:57:50.600 --> 0:57:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Me to wear their exes perfume, Like, are you right?

0:57:53.440 --> 0:57:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Hindsight? He was doing that, so you didn't leave that

0:57:56.000 --> 0:57:57.920
<v Speaker 2>your smell on him when he went back to her.

0:58:00.280 --> 0:58:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that's what it is I used to.

0:58:02.640 --> 0:58:05.280
<v Speaker 2>Tell girls to not wear a perfume to my house

0:58:05.320 --> 0:58:07.640
<v Speaker 2>because I didn't want the smell on my sheets.

0:58:07.880 --> 0:58:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Why because you were like had a high rotation by Yeah.

0:58:10.960 --> 0:58:12.760
<v Speaker 2>I used to say, it give me a headache if

0:58:12.760 --> 0:58:13.880
<v Speaker 2>I smelt it on my sheets.

0:58:14.240 --> 0:58:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Sick Matt so.

0:58:16.880 --> 0:58:19.160
<v Speaker 3>Lightly. I love it when in all serious and so

0:58:19.280 --> 0:58:21.560
<v Speaker 3>I love it when a guy is wearing like a

0:58:21.600 --> 0:58:24.320
<v Speaker 3>sexy cologne like Chanel Blue.

0:58:24.480 --> 0:58:27.560
<v Speaker 2>That's got that love that in the villain Remember in

0:58:27.560 --> 0:58:30.880
<v Speaker 2>the villa, like six people were wearing Yeah, it.

0:58:30.800 --> 0:58:35.520
<v Speaker 3>Was the smell of yeah, yeah, literally do your savage.

0:58:35.600 --> 0:58:38.280
<v Speaker 3>That is like that is the hottest perfume, like I

0:58:38.280 --> 0:58:40.440
<v Speaker 3>said when we were on Love Island. Then I'll say

0:58:40.480 --> 0:58:43.720
<v Speaker 3>it again, hottest male perfume in my opinion.

0:58:44.240 --> 0:58:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Do you you what's your female ones?

0:58:46.520 --> 0:58:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh geez I honestly I don't know. Maybe like I

0:58:53.040 --> 0:58:56.280
<v Speaker 2>used to, I wear that Republica one from Mecca. It's

0:58:56.320 --> 0:58:59.240
<v Speaker 2>a girl and guys one. Oh nice, and that's really good.

0:58:59.520 --> 0:59:02.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Now that I run, I have this little square

0:59:02.200 --> 0:59:03.400
<v Speaker 3>one and it's from Mecca.

0:59:03.520 --> 0:59:04.720
<v Speaker 1>It's like so expensive.

0:59:04.760 --> 0:59:07.400
<v Speaker 3>Michael got it for me for my birthday and it's

0:59:07.440 --> 0:59:09.360
<v Speaker 3>like almost about to run out, which I'm so sad

0:59:09.360 --> 0:59:11.920
<v Speaker 3>about and it's like I wish I knew what it

0:59:12.000 --> 0:59:14.440
<v Speaker 3>was called, but it is like amazing. I'll put it

0:59:14.480 --> 0:59:18.160
<v Speaker 3>on our Facebook group for everyone who's interested. That one's amazing,

0:59:18.200 --> 0:59:20.920
<v Speaker 3>But if you want like a cheaper one, I love

0:59:21.120 --> 0:59:24.560
<v Speaker 3>like love, love Love from Chemists Warehouse The Euphoria by

0:59:24.600 --> 0:59:27.920
<v Speaker 3>Calvin Klein, likeugh to die for. I used to get

0:59:27.960 --> 0:59:31.400
<v Speaker 3>the most amount of compliments with that. I think once

0:59:31.400 --> 0:59:34.120
<v Speaker 3>this perfume bottle, the most expensive ones run out, I'm

0:59:34.160 --> 0:59:35.480
<v Speaker 3>gonna go back to that.

0:59:35.680 --> 0:59:38.680
<v Speaker 2>I used to wear Calvin Klein one day. Now I've

0:59:38.680 --> 0:59:41.360
<v Speaker 2>moved to Tommy. Yeah, just every day one, but yeah,

0:59:41.360 --> 0:59:45.360
<v Speaker 2>my going out one's with the Channel by. The tricky

0:59:45.360 --> 0:59:48.120
<v Speaker 2>thing about fragrances is when I wear Chanel, it reminds

0:59:48.160 --> 0:59:51.400
<v Speaker 2>me of like, you know, like a different time in

0:59:51.440 --> 0:59:53.760
<v Speaker 2>my life. So I really refrain from wearing that now,

0:59:53.960 --> 0:59:54.520
<v Speaker 2>like it's weird.

0:59:54.560 --> 0:59:58.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, fragrances can be hit and missed for that reason,

0:59:58.160 --> 1:00:00.400
<v Speaker 3>because you can you can be like, my god, I

1:00:00.400 --> 1:00:02.560
<v Speaker 3>smell amazing, this guy's going to be so attracted to me,

1:00:02.600 --> 1:00:04.480
<v Speaker 3>But realistically he can be like, oh my god, they

1:00:04.520 --> 1:00:06.640
<v Speaker 3>smell like my egg, but I.

1:00:06.560 --> 1:00:09.720
<v Speaker 2>Go fuck you, smell like like my axe. And then

1:00:09.760 --> 1:00:11.680
<v Speaker 2>when my sister, like when she comes when we're at

1:00:11.720 --> 1:00:14.480
<v Speaker 2>my Mom's like a fuck me, what's her name here?

1:00:14.520 --> 1:00:14.680
<v Speaker 3>Now?

1:00:14.720 --> 1:00:15.400
<v Speaker 2>What's going on?

1:00:15.680 --> 1:00:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you like get freaked out?

1:00:17.680 --> 1:00:21.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, So that's a real hit and miss

1:00:21.440 --> 1:00:24.280
<v Speaker 3>just but I mean, I look, I think it's always

1:00:24.360 --> 1:00:26.720
<v Speaker 3>a mate, like it's always great to smell amazing, and

1:00:26.880 --> 1:00:29.560
<v Speaker 3>like people should definitely have a nice fragrance.

1:00:29.600 --> 1:00:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I think it's something nice.

1:00:30.840 --> 1:00:33.680
<v Speaker 3>Don't overdo it like I used to reckon like shower

1:00:33.720 --> 1:00:36.440
<v Speaker 3>and perfume when I was like in nineteen twenty, I

1:00:36.440 --> 1:00:41.080
<v Speaker 3>would like literally like spray like twenty puffs of the perfect.

1:00:40.680 --> 1:00:42.560
<v Speaker 2>What do you reckon? You realize that you don't have

1:00:42.600 --> 1:00:46.400
<v Speaker 2>to put too much on I'm an adult, and you're

1:00:46.400 --> 1:00:50.320
<v Speaker 2>like you don't probably like last year, and you realize

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need this marsh On.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like a nice like hint is nice, Like you

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<v Speaker 3>don't need to like overpower everyone in the room and

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<v Speaker 3>like give everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>An asthma attack.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well look I think that's all we have time

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<v Speaker 3>for today, Matt. It's in a really fun episode.

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