WEBVTT - Finally - Face to Face. 0:00:05.921 --> 0:00:07.281 Approche production. 0:00:15.881 --> 0:00:18.241 Well, this is pretty crazy face to face. 0:00:18.481 --> 0:00:22.401 Yeah, wow, how's that I sat in this room? 0:00:22.721 --> 0:00:24.881 Or in April of twenty twenty three? 0:00:25.121 --> 0:00:25.681 That long ago? 0:00:25.721 --> 0:00:26.441 That's how long ago? 0:00:26.481 --> 0:00:28.161 It was thirty other episodes ago. 0:00:28.681 --> 0:00:30.961 Yeah, there's a long it was only supposed to be eight. 0:00:31.481 --> 0:00:32.281 That's incredible. 0:00:32.521 --> 0:00:34.281 So here we are, You've got a coffee. We're in 0:00:34.281 --> 0:00:34.841 the shed. 0:00:35.161 --> 0:00:39.001 But the good news is is just behind the shed 0:00:39.721 --> 0:00:40.281 is the building. 0:00:40.281 --> 0:00:41.080 It's pretty excity. 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:41.760 Yeah. 0:00:41.881 --> 0:00:44.281 Last week you heard me sit down with Jackie Lamby 0:00:44.601 --> 0:00:48.481 at the shed in Saint Helen's. While there, I got 0:00:48.521 --> 0:00:51.361 the chance to sit down with Jason and Amanda the 0:00:51.361 --> 0:00:54.881 first time face to face in almost two years. At 0:00:54.881 --> 0:00:57.161 the table with us was also the person we've called 0:00:57.161 --> 0:01:00.961 a torpedo throughout the series. She's been in an immense 0:01:01.001 --> 0:01:05.200 help in progressing Eden's case. She doesn't want accolades, she 0:01:05.281 --> 0:01:08.401 just wants to help. Like most people connected with Jason 0:01:08.441 --> 0:01:11.321 and Amanda, it's not about praise. It's about finding an 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:15.121 answer to their daughter's death. You heard last week about 0:01:15.121 --> 0:01:18.241 their excitement building the new house. Now we're sitting in 0:01:18.241 --> 0:01:21.681 the shed where they raised all their kids, including Eden. 0:01:23.881 --> 0:01:26.200 It is quite amazing when I sit in the shed. 0:01:26.721 --> 0:01:29.481 To realize that you've raised all those children in this. 0:01:31.121 --> 0:01:33.321 We've had a good friend that's visitors in the last 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:36.121 couple of days who commended Amanda and how we've done that. 0:01:37.881 --> 0:01:38.881 But you've got to be mindful. 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:42.161 They were little and once they started to get bigger, 0:01:42.721 --> 0:01:45.121 they started to leave and go to the defense. 0:01:45.161 --> 0:01:46.840 So we're leaving at seventeen to go. 0:01:46.761 --> 0:01:47.521 To the army. 0:01:47.961 --> 0:01:49.441 And when you look at them on the wall, look 0:01:49.481 --> 0:01:53.001 at Justine at seventeen, the baby a seventeen, their baby 0:01:53.041 --> 0:01:55.641 face children off to the Australian Army. 0:01:56.041 --> 0:01:58.281 Maybe that put them in good stead with. 0:01:58.321 --> 0:02:00.881 The way we live to be able to do the 0:02:01.001 --> 0:02:04.041 army because we know we live in this environment with 0:02:04.121 --> 0:02:07.281 the portoloo with a outside shower and living in the shed, 0:02:07.361 --> 0:02:09.161 so you know, camp and in a trench. 0:02:09.241 --> 0:02:11.481 Wasn't that bad that Tim and Justine? 0:02:12.081 --> 0:02:15.800 I really want the audience to know what you are 0:02:15.921 --> 0:02:18.921 like as people, right and I've always said you assaulted 0:02:18.921 --> 0:02:22.361 the earth people and I love you both for that. 0:02:22.761 --> 0:02:25.441 But it was interesting this morning. We've had Jackie Lamby 0:02:25.481 --> 0:02:28.520 here which you heard in the previous episode, and one 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:31.281 of her people who was with her needed to go 0:02:31.361 --> 0:02:34.481 to the toilet and there was the Hey, by the way, 0:02:34.601 --> 0:02:35.520 it's a long drop. 0:02:36.721 --> 0:02:37.881 It's just a long drop. 0:02:39.201 --> 0:02:41.321 Fidestar camp. This is five star camping. 0:02:41.641 --> 0:02:42.481 It's probably going to be. 0:02:42.481 --> 0:02:42.961 A bit different. 0:02:43.601 --> 0:02:45.240 We actually put the throne in the other day of 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:47.201 the plumbing and the septic. 0:02:47.161 --> 0:02:49.961 Now royal flush, the Royal flush, and it is going. 0:02:49.761 --> 0:02:51.721 To be the royal flush because we've got the septic 0:02:51.761 --> 0:02:54.481 into from the slab stage to the septic. 0:02:54.121 --> 0:02:56.280 In the ground. And now because we're. 0:02:56.081 --> 0:02:58.520 On rule and we need a septic system in, we're 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:01.601 going to go environmentally friendly and new REGs have come in. Okay, 0:03:02.081 --> 0:03:03.681 those new riggs are going to cost us about twenty 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:04.761 five thousand dollars. 0:03:04.641 --> 0:03:06.921 From where we're in the ground at the moment. 0:03:07.001 --> 0:03:10.840 So that rule of lass a day plus. 0:03:10.761 --> 0:03:12.281 Yeah, she'll be a royal flush, all right. 0:03:12.441 --> 0:03:14.081 So it's going to be a day to celebrate. 0:03:15.601 --> 0:03:19.041 But in saying that we have become who we are 0:03:19.441 --> 0:03:23.361 because of our environment, and we look at history and 0:03:23.481 --> 0:03:26.041 the way that people have lived in other parts of 0:03:26.081 --> 0:03:28.641 the world and even in Australia at times, and we thought, 0:03:28.641 --> 0:03:29.840 you know what, we can do this. We've got a 0:03:29.881 --> 0:03:32.600 roof over our head, we've got running water, we have electricity, 0:03:33.041 --> 0:03:33.681 what more. 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:34.121 Do you need? 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:36.121 And you've got a beautiful family and yeah. 0:03:36.001 --> 0:03:38.441 And we have our own food growing all the time. 0:03:38.521 --> 0:03:42.081 So and the family was so young that they didn't 0:03:42.161 --> 0:03:42.761 question it. 0:03:42.801 --> 0:03:44.081 They just said, this is great. 0:03:44.121 --> 0:03:47.201 We get to run outside and have a big opening 0:03:47.321 --> 0:03:51.241 for a door and go in and appreciating. 0:03:50.321 --> 0:03:52.561 They all appreciate the way we brought them up. There's 0:03:52.601 --> 0:03:54.761 not one of them that haven't appreciated it. 0:03:54.881 --> 0:03:57.681 No, And it's not to say we don't like nice things. 0:03:57.841 --> 0:03:58.721 I love nice sense. 0:03:58.841 --> 0:04:02.041 It's just that when you dealt with something, it's how 0:04:02.161 --> 0:04:05.241 you respond to it. And we just tried to make 0:04:05.321 --> 0:04:09.761 it as comfortable as possible. And if it wasn't comfortable, 0:04:10.081 --> 0:04:13.761 we just simply wouldn't be here. And that's the bottom line. 0:04:14.201 --> 0:04:16.681 And I'm a woman and I want comforts. 0:04:17.281 --> 0:04:20.801 We've heard over the last three episodes ten reasons why 0:04:21.241 --> 0:04:23.961 Eden's case should be relooked at. We heard Jackie Lamby 0:04:24.041 --> 0:04:28.641 last week in person sitting where we're sitting right now. 0:04:29.161 --> 0:04:32.721 And then we heard her speech which was impassion in parliament. 0:04:33.561 --> 0:04:34.761 That's the way Jackie does it. 0:04:34.961 --> 0:04:38.001 This is a really tough time for you guys, because 0:04:38.521 --> 0:04:41.760 it's ten years since Eden passed. 0:04:42.561 --> 0:04:44.161 You say that, Jay, it is tough. 0:04:44.281 --> 0:04:47.281 But as you know, I saw Jackie here being interviewed 0:04:47.281 --> 0:04:50.280 by you, and to see that woman of such strong 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:55.881 character and personality in tears over Eden, that was incredibly emotional. 0:04:55.921 --> 0:04:59.520 To see such a strong woman so hurt by what 0:04:59.880 --> 0:05:03.161 the injustice Worth experienced. She feels it. And that's what 0:05:03.241 --> 0:05:05.681 Jackie said to me. When she stands for someone, she 0:05:05.801 --> 0:05:08.841 feels it. When she goes into her veterans family and 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.841 she's dealing with them, she feels the family. And that's 0:05:11.841 --> 0:05:14.041 what I got to experience in what I saw of Jackie, 0:05:14.081 --> 0:05:17.161 and it was powerful, Mate, it was really emotional, and 0:05:17.721 --> 0:05:19.321 I'll remember that for the rest. 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:22.320 And it may not look like sometimes that we're hurting 0:05:22.601 --> 0:05:25.321 or we're getting on with life or we're doing something fun, 0:05:25.561 --> 0:05:30.160 because we're actually allowed to still find joy. But Jason 0:05:30.201 --> 0:05:33.761 and I always hurt. We're always hurting. Whenever we're writing 0:05:33.761 --> 0:05:37.401 a letter, we're always hurting. We put on a brave front, 0:05:38.281 --> 0:05:42.481 but we're in pain every day. And we might be 0:05:42.521 --> 0:05:44.640 in the garden or we might be out doing something 0:05:44.721 --> 0:05:47.721 fun and it'll just strike you. It just comes over you, 0:05:47.921 --> 0:05:50.481 and all of a sudden you're feeling quite emotional, and 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:52.881 you're in tears and you're thinking, oh my god, I've 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:54.880 got to get out of this conversation that I'm in 0:05:54.921 --> 0:05:58.161 because the person's going to not know what's happening. But 0:05:58.201 --> 0:06:01.121 it's just something that just comes over you, and it's 0:06:01.721 --> 0:06:05.400 I think over the years, we've learned to have a 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:08.561 little sense of control of it, not a whole sense, 0:06:09.121 --> 0:06:11.841 but a little sense of control of if we don't 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.001 let it come to the surface when it's coming to 0:06:14.001 --> 0:06:18.200 the surface, it will spill out when we least need 0:06:18.241 --> 0:06:18.440 it to. 0:06:19.721 --> 0:06:21.960 So when I seen. 0:06:21.841 --> 0:06:24.441 Jackie upset, I just had to hold her. I had 0:06:24.481 --> 0:06:26.321 to let her know that this is what we feel 0:06:26.361 --> 0:06:28.761 every day. We wake up in the morning and it's real. 0:06:29.161 --> 0:06:32.320 It's gone. She's not with us anymore, and she's been murdered. 0:06:32.401 --> 0:06:37.200 Somebody has actually done this to her. It's heinous knowing 0:06:37.961 --> 0:06:40.241 what has happened to her, it's cruel. 0:06:40.641 --> 0:06:45.081 You could tell that Jackie is a politician that's doing 0:06:45.121 --> 0:06:51.481 this for notoriety or to enhance a campaign of any sort. 0:06:51.561 --> 0:06:52.361 She's already great. 0:06:52.561 --> 0:06:54.880 She's doing it because she cares. 0:06:55.521 --> 0:06:56.521 Yeah, she's a real person. 0:06:56.761 --> 0:06:58.681 Yeah, she's not. 0:06:58.761 --> 0:07:02.361 Some phony that's standing in front of the people asking 0:07:02.361 --> 0:07:05.721 the people to agree with the lies. They want me 0:07:05.801 --> 0:07:08.361 to agree with a lie against my own child, and 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:11.001 I didn't even lie to her, only about Santa Claus. 0:07:11.241 --> 0:07:13.601 I'm not sure if over the last few years I've 0:07:13.641 --> 0:07:18.561 adequately conveyed what wonderful people Jason Amanda are. Not just 0:07:18.641 --> 0:07:22.401 discreeving parents, but in general. I admire them for how 0:07:22.441 --> 0:07:25.241 they talk about their kids, but you can also hear 0:07:25.321 --> 0:07:28.441 it in the way the kids talk about them. Earlier 0:07:28.441 --> 0:07:31.241 in the morning, before we started recording, I was setting 0:07:31.321 --> 0:07:34.281 up their eldest daughter, Bobby Lee called to talk to 0:07:34.361 --> 0:07:39.121 mom and dad. Bobby Lee's call this morning was really interesting, 0:07:39.561 --> 0:07:41.801 and you put her on speakerphone, and what I found 0:07:41.881 --> 0:07:45.441 really special was this, as a thirty two year old woman, 0:07:46.281 --> 0:07:49.281 she's calling mum and dad to say, Hey, I got 0:07:49.281 --> 0:07:52.921 this really great compliment at work today and I've forwarded 0:07:53.121 --> 0:07:53.721 the email. 0:07:54.761 --> 0:07:56.361 Yeah, how special is that? 0:07:56.641 --> 0:07:58.641 It's nice that they want to share those moments with 0:07:58.681 --> 0:08:00.401 their mum and dad, and we are part of those 0:08:00.441 --> 0:08:04.801 moments because we feel that Bobby Lee's a really bubbly, 0:08:04.801 --> 0:08:07.921 out going personality, as you know, and it was nice 0:08:08.001 --> 0:08:10.361 to see that that's what she's getting from her workplace 0:08:10.401 --> 0:08:11.961 and the customers, and she. 0:08:12.001 --> 0:08:13.241 Calls us often. 0:08:14.281 --> 0:08:17.721 Previously it's been spoken the compliments, so this one was 0:08:17.721 --> 0:08:20.401 actually written to her boss, so that's why she was 0:08:20.441 --> 0:08:21.161 able to say it. 0:08:21.121 --> 0:08:21.881 Was written again. 0:08:22.121 --> 0:08:24.601 But she's called us when anybody's ever been kind to her, 0:08:24.761 --> 0:08:27.201 or people from Saint Helen's have even gone there, and 0:08:27.241 --> 0:08:29.521 she calls us and tells us. And it's a good 0:08:29.521 --> 0:08:31.281 will story because there is a lot of hurt in 0:08:31.321 --> 0:08:33.601 our family and our children suffer. 0:08:34.041 --> 0:08:39.201 Pobbly defines other parents on how often that children call them. 0:08:39.281 --> 0:08:41.761 She says, I call you every day, Dad, Mum, And 0:08:41.801 --> 0:08:45.281 that's why because of the parents you are. So we're 0:08:45.361 --> 0:08:47.561 lucky because we're a close knit family. 0:08:48.041 --> 0:08:49.961 And even some of the siblings say, oh, you do 0:08:50.041 --> 0:08:51.641 too much for this one, and you do too much. 0:08:51.801 --> 0:08:53.281 You don't have to do that for me, and you don't. 0:08:53.561 --> 0:08:57.281 We say no, this is the parent that we choose 0:08:57.401 --> 0:09:00.241 to be where there's soft place to land. We hope 0:09:01.201 --> 0:09:03.481 like what you've given us a soft place to land. 0:09:03.761 --> 0:09:04.681 It's really interesting. 0:09:04.801 --> 0:09:08.201 So using that analogy around Bobby Lee calling Mum and 0:09:08.281 --> 0:09:11.161 Dad to say I've got a really nice compliment, and 0:09:11.201 --> 0:09:13.681 then Justine's milling around here, I met her for the 0:09:13.681 --> 0:09:17.201 first time today, and a lovely girl. And we were 0:09:17.241 --> 0:09:19.081 just sitting out there talking and she was telling me 0:09:19.161 --> 0:09:21.641 the story of how dad's a great horse rider and 0:09:21.721 --> 0:09:25.041 we're all going to go horse riding, and Dad's got 0:09:25.041 --> 0:09:26.841 this photo of him with his shirt off and a 0:09:26.961 --> 0:09:30.361 gun slung over his back on a horse. It's beautiful 0:09:30.481 --> 0:09:33.081 hearing how your children. 0:09:32.641 --> 0:09:33.281 Talk about you. 0:09:33.881 --> 0:09:36.321 And Jason was always in cutoff jeans looking like a 0:09:36.321 --> 0:09:39.201 little hottie, even back when we were just friends. 0:09:39.841 --> 0:09:43.241 We both used to look at each other like you're cute. 0:09:44.001 --> 0:09:46.201 And then later on in life, when I was nineteen 0:09:46.241 --> 0:09:48.681 and he was twenty one, I think. 0:09:49.041 --> 0:09:52.841 You put brown eyed girl. She was nineteen, I was 0:09:52.881 --> 0:09:55.001 twenty one, thirty five years later. 0:09:55.441 --> 0:10:01.001 So a lots happened in the last ten years. Things 0:10:01.041 --> 0:10:03.721 sort of felt like they were moving towards the end 0:10:03.761 --> 0:10:06.121 of twenty twenty four, you know, we had a couple 0:10:06.161 --> 0:10:09.201 of conversations with Guy Barnett. It seemed like it was 0:10:09.241 --> 0:10:11.761 all positive, and then sort of we hit the Christmas 0:10:11.761 --> 0:10:15.601 break and everything just a massive handbrake on any action 0:10:15.841 --> 0:10:19.521 from the government and the people in power currently. How 0:10:19.521 --> 0:10:23.041 are you feeling about the lack of action in the 0:10:23.121 --> 0:10:24.601 last couple of months. 0:10:25.961 --> 0:10:29.561 Well, when somebody doesn't put something in writing to me, 0:10:30.601 --> 0:10:35.241 I don't believe what they say. So when anybody has 0:10:35.281 --> 0:10:38.441 said to me verbally they're going to do something, I 0:10:38.521 --> 0:10:40.921 take it with a grain of salt. In regards to 0:10:40.961 --> 0:10:45.761 the Attorney General, he has said nice things. I'm yet 0:10:45.801 --> 0:10:49.401 to have any action in full. They've assured me the 0:10:49.561 --> 0:10:54.121 changing of the law of the outdated autopsy photos not 0:10:54.201 --> 0:10:56.761 to be released to families in Tasmania only state in 0:10:56.801 --> 0:11:00.641 the country that's not allowed to have autopsy photos, and 0:11:00.721 --> 0:11:02.921 I think it was nineteen ninety six that this was 0:11:03.121 --> 0:11:04.481 changed to this. 0:11:05.481 --> 0:11:06.801 So I'm wondering has it. 0:11:06.721 --> 0:11:09.521 Got anything to do with Port Arthur because they never 0:11:09.561 --> 0:11:12.281 had an inquest. Not one single person that lost a 0:11:12.321 --> 0:11:16.761 family member in Port Arthur got an inquest. And funnily enough, 0:11:17.121 --> 0:11:22.961 Paul Reynolds bragged about being part of that scene and 0:11:23.081 --> 0:11:26.881 two unsolved murders in Saint Helen's and Bo Marris. How 0:11:26.881 --> 0:11:29.121 do you brag about being part of such a messy, 0:11:29.161 --> 0:11:29.681 messy thing. 0:11:30.241 --> 0:11:33.081 Going back to Guy Barnett and what he's promised and 0:11:33.121 --> 0:11:36.441 what he's said to us, I feel the procrastinations. The 0:11:36.481 --> 0:11:40.441 old thing is the theft and on borderline think what's 0:11:40.481 --> 0:11:45.041 happening is quite gutless and weak, and I'm angry about 0:11:45.081 --> 0:11:48.241 it because we're just being treated with contempt and my 0:11:48.361 --> 0:11:51.241 children and we thought, well further than that, and it 0:11:51.241 --> 0:11:52.281 doesn't seem like we are. 0:11:52.521 --> 0:11:54.561 We've been writing several. 0:11:54.161 --> 0:11:57.961 Letters to the Minister of Police Felix, and he won't 0:11:58.001 --> 0:11:58.641 even right back. 0:11:58.761 --> 0:11:58.961 Jay. 0:11:59.601 --> 0:12:04.441 Now that's alarming and it's concerning, and I'm not sure 0:12:04.481 --> 0:12:07.481 why he's not acknowledging me he's handing them over to 0:12:07.561 --> 0:12:10.521 the Police Commissioner, because I get an email the very 0:12:10.601 --> 0:12:14.081 next day, but I have not heard one response from 0:12:14.161 --> 0:12:18.041 the Police Minister Felix. They won't even open the conversation. 0:12:18.121 --> 0:12:19.481 And get this, that's concerning. 0:12:19.681 --> 0:12:23.721 At the tabling of the Royal Commission into Ashley Detention Center, 0:12:23.881 --> 0:12:27.601 there was a little tea party afterwards, and I'm standing 0:12:27.601 --> 0:12:32.001 there by myself and I've got these men be lining me, 0:12:32.841 --> 0:12:40.121 Jeremy Ratcliffe, Michael Ferguson, Felix, Alex all asking me about 0:12:40.161 --> 0:12:44.121 this situation with Felix. And then I said, what is 0:12:44.121 --> 0:12:45.921 it going to take another one of my kids to 0:12:45.961 --> 0:12:49.041 be killed? And I was expecting Felix to say, of course, 0:12:49.121 --> 0:12:52.961 not missus Westbrook. But he didn't say anything. He did 0:12:52.961 --> 0:12:56.721 not say no, that would not happen. What I'm saying 0:12:56.761 --> 0:12:59.801 as a police minister, you've got some real work on 0:12:59.841 --> 0:13:02.401 your hands to clean up the mess of reen hidtings firstly, 0:13:02.721 --> 0:13:06.281 and then you've got these young recruit police coming in 0:13:06.801 --> 0:13:11.081 just qualifying to be police, having a conversation with the 0:13:11.161 --> 0:13:15.361 regular common person saying that the Westbrooks should get over this. 0:13:15.801 --> 0:13:18.801 It's nonsense, it's not even real. So if a new. 0:13:18.721 --> 0:13:21.681 Recruit is thinking like that, where coming from. 0:13:21.761 --> 0:13:24.441 It's coming from the head and the fish rots from. 0:13:24.361 --> 0:13:25.081 The head down. 0:13:25.521 --> 0:13:29.521 How was it hearing Jackie talk about what she wants, 0:13:30.681 --> 0:13:35.441 the rope, the autopsy photos, the change to the law. 0:13:36.921 --> 0:13:42.361 How did that make you feel empowered? Fierce a little territorial. 0:13:42.881 --> 0:13:47.761 We've got the right person on our team. She's legit, 0:13:48.561 --> 0:13:54.241 she's straight up, she's accountable, she served our country. How 0:13:54.281 --> 0:13:59.601 can somebody that has that much knowledge on this country 0:14:00.761 --> 0:14:04.561 not be recognized as somebody that is great. She's always 0:14:04.561 --> 0:14:08.361 making a friends, always kept more people alive in this 0:14:08.401 --> 0:14:09.241 country than I can. 0:14:09.401 --> 0:14:13.161 She's Australia politician currently at the moment, and I don't 0:14:13.161 --> 0:14:15.201 think she has anything to worry about getting elected in 0:14:15.281 --> 0:14:16.561 because Jackie does her job. 0:14:17.001 --> 0:14:19.201 From my experience, she does what she says she's going 0:14:19.241 --> 0:14:21.601 to do it. 0:14:20.641 --> 0:14:24.361 And she's not just paying people. She's not giving this 0:14:24.441 --> 0:14:27.241 community a new soccer field and a new toilet block 0:14:28.081 --> 0:14:28.921 to get things. 0:14:29.881 --> 0:14:33.561 Jackie Lamby is really loved in Tasmania, which was evident 0:14:33.601 --> 0:14:36.481 on the day I arrived. Contractors kept turning up to 0:14:36.561 --> 0:14:38.961 Jason and Amanda's place to work on their new house, 0:14:39.401 --> 0:14:41.681 and each of them wanted to talk to Jackie. 0:14:41.761 --> 0:14:43.361 Because we're in the build, We've got people that are 0:14:43.401 --> 0:14:45.921 arriving at different times, and we had the pump guy come. 0:14:46.001 --> 0:14:49.361 The concrete pump is at Jackie Lamby. I know Jackie, 0:14:49.521 --> 0:14:51.081 he says, I've got to go and talk to Jackie. 0:14:51.241 --> 0:14:52.681 He went down and shook her hand and give her 0:14:52.681 --> 0:14:56.001 a Huggi's edmember and she knew him. Amanda takes Jackie 0:14:56.001 --> 0:14:57.641 around to have a look at the Kiwi for it. 0:14:58.201 --> 0:15:01.161 Our name over next door Ollen is that Jackie And 0:15:01.201 --> 0:15:02.921 he said, we love you, Jackie. 0:15:03.081 --> 0:15:08.001 And these are just typical men that admire her. And 0:15:08.561 --> 0:15:10.841 that's what I see out there in society. We all 0:15:10.921 --> 0:15:13.881 love Jackie. Mate. How can you not love that? Woman. 0:15:14.041 --> 0:15:17.041 I've seen that woman cry, you mate, crying over my daughter. 0:15:17.121 --> 0:15:18.081 That was so emotional. 0:15:18.161 --> 0:15:21.521 Jake, I think it's to you get really heavily involved 0:15:22.601 --> 0:15:23.641 and you see they're hurt. 0:15:25.441 --> 0:15:27.001 It's been going on too long. 0:15:27.921 --> 0:15:29.681 I just we just want to know the truth. 0:15:30.361 --> 0:15:33.081 And it's more important of the West Books than the 0:15:33.161 --> 0:15:36.281 kids to know what happened to their daughter. 0:15:36.041 --> 0:15:38.761 And their sister. And we need to know this and 0:15:38.841 --> 0:15:39.801 they're never going to move on. 0:15:41.201 --> 0:15:43.641 We're in good hands with Jackie, and we're in good 0:15:43.641 --> 0:15:46.201 hands with another couple of people too, which I can't 0:15:46.241 --> 0:15:47.841 mention one sitting. 0:15:47.561 --> 0:15:51.241 Around the table really hard. Yeah, but what we can't. 0:15:51.001 --> 0:15:53.441 Mention, No, we're talking about the torpedo who's going full 0:15:53.481 --> 0:15:54.041 double eight. 0:15:54.161 --> 0:15:56.921 But let's move on book A knowledge on also name. 0:15:57.441 --> 0:15:59.441 There's been a couple of things that have happened that 0:15:59.561 --> 0:16:03.721 are outside of the Eden case, which shows you now 0:16:03.761 --> 0:16:06.281 have the support of the community. The first is the 0:16:06.321 --> 0:16:09.441 card that you showed me. You've heard me talk about 0:16:09.441 --> 0:16:12.721 how much I admired Jason and Amanda, but here's a 0:16:12.801 --> 0:16:16.801 story that sort of epitomizes who they are as people. 0:16:17.321 --> 0:16:20.321 Just before Christmas, Jason was at the local ida and 0:16:20.401 --> 0:16:22.801 saw a woman who had locked her keys in a car. 0:16:23.281 --> 0:16:27.321 She recognized Jason from the podcast, and she asked him 0:16:27.361 --> 0:16:27.841 for help. 0:16:28.241 --> 0:16:28.481 Hunter. 0:16:28.641 --> 0:16:30.241 As you know, I was down with Jack for the 0:16:30.241 --> 0:16:32.001 holidays and they were in the car park. 0:16:32.121 --> 0:16:34.401 She needed something from me. So I've driven down there and. 0:16:34.361 --> 0:16:36.281 I'm just having a conversation with a lot good Hunter. 0:16:36.361 --> 0:16:38.001 How you go on? And this woman said, excuse me, 0:16:38.041 --> 0:16:38.961 are you Jason Westbrook. 0:16:39.041 --> 0:16:41.441 I've been listening to the podcast sent me her best 0:16:41.441 --> 0:16:43.681 wishes and I said, oh, yeah, thanks so much. 0:16:43.801 --> 0:16:46.081 And then she says, oh, look, I've actually locked my keys. 0:16:45.841 --> 0:16:48.441 In my dad's truck. Would you go able to help me? 0:16:48.721 --> 0:16:50.761 I had some wire and that wrapped aside went and 0:16:50.801 --> 0:16:52.921 got that and I got in and I just couldn't 0:16:52.961 --> 0:16:54.641 get it. And I said, oh, look, I'm sorry. I said, 0:16:54.641 --> 0:16:57.081 are you with RACT? She says no, but my daughter is. 0:16:57.521 --> 0:16:59.081 I said I will give them a call. They'll come 0:16:59.121 --> 0:17:01.561 and unlock it. Anyway, I ended up getting her to 0:17:01.601 --> 0:17:04.001 ring and she says, oh, my daughter's an RACT member 0:17:04.201 --> 0:17:06.640 and he says no, she in the car and she 0:17:06.721 --> 0:17:09.521 said no, well, I can't come because you've got to 0:17:09.521 --> 0:17:11.120 be in the car. And then I said, I just 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:13.120 hang up. I said I can get him here. So 0:17:13.201 --> 0:17:15.920 I rang RCT booked him in for I've locked my 0:17:16.001 --> 0:17:16.641 keys in the car. 0:17:16.721 --> 0:17:17.840 I'm sitting with the passenger. 0:17:17.921 --> 0:17:20.880 It comes along five minutes later and he pulls it out. 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:23.920 She was so happy, and she's pulled out like I 0:17:23.961 --> 0:17:25.920 saw two fifty dominapes and she says like, look, I 0:17:26.001 --> 0:17:27.561 just want to pay you for what you did. I said, 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.641 I don't want your money. Married Christmas. She said, look, 0:17:30.721 --> 0:17:32.041 thanks so much, and she's left. 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:35.281 Yesterday was it yesterday? Day before? I was doing it 0:17:35.360 --> 0:17:36.761 up at the slab and the car's pulled and I. 0:17:36.761 --> 0:17:38.400 Heard the dog's bark, and then I've heard Amanda come 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.641 around with some guy I've never seen, and he's got 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:42.681 these cards in his hand and he's there. 0:17:42.721 --> 0:17:45.401 I saw the woman that I helped, and she said, 0:17:45.481 --> 0:17:46.120 get Jason. 0:17:46.120 --> 0:17:48.561 I couldn't not come thank you personally. 0:17:48.561 --> 0:17:49.920 I just want my husband day May. 0:17:50.041 --> 0:17:52.321 We just wanted to give you this card, so I'm 0:17:52.360 --> 0:17:52.920 going to read it to you. 0:17:53.001 --> 0:17:55.041 Jay to Jason, thank you for your. 0:17:55.041 --> 0:17:57.880 Kind act in the supermarket car park and helping me 0:17:57.921 --> 0:18:00.561 with the ract after locking my keys and my dad's 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:05.000 lean cruiser. Forever grateful with regards, Tracy, Amanda and Jason, 0:18:05.360 --> 0:18:09.441 keep advocating for your family and dear Eden, your strength 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:11.521 and unity is inspiring with. 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:14.041 Love, and give us a fifty dollars voucher for this. 0:18:14.521 --> 0:18:16.640 Yeah, there was a fifty dollars voucher which we because 0:18:16.721 --> 0:18:19.241 there was everyone coming, We've got cheese platter. 0:18:19.441 --> 0:18:19.761 Yeah. 0:18:19.801 --> 0:18:22.120 And then when I arrived this morning, I was talking 0:18:22.120 --> 0:18:24.041 to Jason. He was on the bar out the front 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:27.160 and doing a quick mail of the lawns before everyone 0:18:27.201 --> 0:18:28.960 gets here, and he said, oh, Jay, you're not going 0:18:29.001 --> 0:18:29.440 to believe this. 0:18:29.561 --> 0:18:30.601 I've been nominated. 0:18:30.961 --> 0:18:31.881 Tell me about them. 0:18:32.321 --> 0:18:34.721 Tell me about the award, Jason, because I think again, 0:18:34.761 --> 0:18:35.801 this is just highlights. 0:18:35.961 --> 0:18:36.201 Now. 0:18:36.321 --> 0:18:40.401 I received one on two letters of received Jacob. One 0:18:40.481 --> 0:18:42.521 was on the third of January. This is from the 0:18:42.521 --> 0:18:46.001 Breaka Day Camp from my friends mate. Actually, the man 0:18:46.360 --> 0:18:49.001 Mick Tucker would like to invite you to attend Australia 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:51.161 Day Awards, which are being held at the Portland Hall 0:18:51.201 --> 0:18:54.241 on Friday, the twenty sixth of January twenty twenty five 0:18:54.360 --> 0:18:57.761