WEBVTT - The Rita Panahi Show | 28 May

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<v Speaker 1>On scoring rules Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Reader Panekey Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Good evening and welcome to the Reader Panehy Show. Coming

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<v Speaker 3>up tonight, the ABC board is in crisis, Motor Ray

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<v Speaker 3>presenters Inflammatory and the Australia commentary Sophie Elsworth with the

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<v Speaker 3>latest one in five detainees released after the High Courts

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<v Speaker 3>n z YQ ruling has.

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<v Speaker 2>Been charged with a new crime.

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<v Speaker 3>Gary Hardgrave will join me to discuss and doctor Claire

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<v Speaker 3>Rowe on the impact pornography is having on young minds

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<v Speaker 3>and of course Lefty is losing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Will have this teachable moment tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>Instead of using the typical mom and dad parent titles,

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<v Speaker 4>there's actually gender neutral and non binary parent titles that

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<v Speaker 4>exist NOPA, Nori opah, Pere Pomp, Pom SASA and Zizzy pomp.

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<v Speaker 3>And we'll also look at a remarkable crash landing of

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<v Speaker 3>a light plane at Bankstown Airport where the pilot cleared

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<v Speaker 3>the hangar by about a meter by executing a perfect

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<v Speaker 3>crash landing. But first let's bring in Sophie Ellsworth, media

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<v Speaker 3>writer The Australian. Sophie, you've reported in the Australian Today that.

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<v Speaker 2>The ABC the board.

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<v Speaker 3>There is in crisis over Laura Tingle's weekend out burst,

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<v Speaker 3>a story you broke in The Australian. Some remarkable comments

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<v Speaker 3>at the Sydney Writers Festive. Always you call Australia racist country,

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<v Speaker 3>unleashed a bile philed die tribe against the Opposition leader

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<v Speaker 3>Peter Dutton, accusing him of giving license to people to

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<v Speaker 3>engage in racial abuse.

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<v Speaker 2>What more can you.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell me about what's happening at the ABC and the

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<v Speaker 3>board's response.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll read to.

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<v Speaker 6>These were extraordinary comments when I went to the Sydney's

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<v Speaker 6>Writers Festival on Sunday to hear Laura Tingle unleash on

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<v Speaker 6>Peter Dutton and call Australia a racist country. Now this

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<v Speaker 6>is causing issues within the ABC. I know from sources

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<v Speaker 6>within the ABC that there has been discussions among board

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<v Speaker 6>members about this problem, and they're due to meet in June.

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<v Speaker 5>But now it's.

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<v Speaker 6>Under consideration whether they bring forward this discussion about Laura

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<v Speaker 6>Tingle rather than wait till the board meeting in June.

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<v Speaker 6>But rechil this is a problem because not only is

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<v Speaker 6>she their most high profile political correspondent at the ABC,

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<v Speaker 6>she is on the board herself. So if they have

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<v Speaker 6>a board meeting and discuss matters relating to her.

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<v Speaker 5>She has to recuse herself.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Does another staff appointed board member step in place of

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<v Speaker 3>her or they know one day because she.

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<v Speaker 5>Was voted into that role, she's in a five.

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<v Speaker 6>Year term, she's twelve months in and already this is

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<v Speaker 6>causing headaches for them. But Rita, this is where Kim Williams.

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<v Speaker 6>He is the new chair. He only started in March,

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<v Speaker 6>and as many people who know Kim know, he's not

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<v Speaker 6>one to hold back. So I have put questions to

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<v Speaker 6>him about this, but he has not responded.

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<v Speaker 5>But I can't imagine he's too thrilled about this.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the ABC is very upset with your reporting, all

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<v Speaker 3>the facts you are sharing with the audience, and they're

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<v Speaker 3>disputing that there is any sort of crisis at board level.

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<v Speaker 7>What's your response to that.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, they can do that, Rita, but that is not

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<v Speaker 6>the case. They can put out their statements. I went

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<v Speaker 6>to them yesterday with a series of questions.

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<v Speaker 5>They gave me no comment.

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<v Speaker 6>They've had ample time to respond to questions and they

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<v Speaker 6>did not, you know, on this whole thing that started

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<v Speaker 6>on Sunday. Mind you, I question them on Sunday about

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<v Speaker 6>it as well. So I stand by my reporting.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you called Laura Tingle the ABC's highest profile political correspondent,

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<v Speaker 3>I would argue she is a commentator, So her comments

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<v Speaker 3>about whatever she thinks of Australia, whatever she thinks of

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<v Speaker 3>Peter Dutton, her what sound to me like these paranoid

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<v Speaker 3>fantasies of migrants being abused at Open for inspections because

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<v Speaker 3>Peter Dutton dared to point out that when you have

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<v Speaker 3>record number of migrants coming in, of course it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to add to the housing crisis. But she is not

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<v Speaker 3>a correspondent, She's a commentator. And those lines of the

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<v Speaker 3>ABC between opinion, which is what this program is, and

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<v Speaker 3>strictly news reporting are completely blurred.

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<v Speaker 7>I would argue there.

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<v Speaker 2>Are no lines, and I think we saw that.

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<v Speaker 3>With the Voice the referendum, where we had so much

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<v Speaker 3>reporting from the ABC supposedly news reporting, impartial news reporting

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<v Speaker 3>that was pro yes activism.

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<v Speaker 6>But Rita, she is a journalist at the ABC.

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<v Speaker 5>Now she does do analysis, which is what is commentary.

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<v Speaker 6>But she's sitting there interview Peter Dutton, she's interviewing Anthony Alberzi.

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<v Speaker 5>She does reports on the Seven thirty programs.

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<v Speaker 6>So if they want to try and argue, or if

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<v Speaker 6>anyone wants to try and argue that she's not a

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<v Speaker 6>journalist she's a commentator.

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<v Speaker 5>That is not the case the ABC. She is a journalist.

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<v Speaker 6>She is their political correspondent and she reports not only

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<v Speaker 6>you know, political reports, but she interviews people and I

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<v Speaker 6>think that's journalists.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we saw some more warped reporting from the ABC.

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<v Speaker 7>Again, this is news coverage.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not commentary, analysis, opinion, what do you want to

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<v Speaker 3>call It is supposed to be news coverage.

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<v Speaker 2>And they've been called out for this.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it is just a bizarre way to describe her

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<v Speaker 3>mass firing rockets into all across Israel, including Tel Aviv.

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<v Speaker 2>The ABC called it a show of resilience.

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<v Speaker 3>More than seven months into Israel's massive asc and ground offensive.

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<v Speaker 7>A show of resilience.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just really strange words to describe the actions of

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<v Speaker 3>a terror group raining rockets down on civilians.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, another front.

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<v Speaker 3>Page exclusive from you, this time on Channel nine. Today

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<v Speaker 3>CEO Mike Sneezebe was the one to sign off on

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<v Speaker 3>that million dollar payout to form a news boss starn Wig.

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<v Speaker 3>The network has also claimed that nine chairmen and former

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<v Speaker 3>treasurer Pett Costello played no role in the payout.

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<v Speaker 7>What else can you tell us about this story?

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<v Speaker 3>This just seems to be rolling along and gathering momentum

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<v Speaker 3>each day.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, Rita, this story is far from over.

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<v Speaker 6>It's really quite extraordinary that Nine are saying Mike Sneezeby

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<v Speaker 6>ticked off Darren Wick's payout. Now we have reported at

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<v Speaker 6>The Australian that he got a payout of around one

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<v Speaker 6>million dollars. Now this comes at a time when all

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<v Speaker 6>media companies, including Nine Entertainment, are under financial pressure. But

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<v Speaker 6>the fallout is continued into deep and there is so

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<v Speaker 6>much unrest in Nine. My phone has been going running

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<v Speaker 6>hot since we broke this story last week about the

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<v Speaker 6>allegation and report against Darren Wick that started this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 6>But to date, Peter Costello, the chair of nine, has

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<v Speaker 6>not spoken.

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<v Speaker 2>Has it been blindsided here?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it feasible that the chair doesn't know about a

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<v Speaker 3>million dollar payout?

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<v Speaker 5>Rita? I would find that incredibly hard to believe.

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<v Speaker 6>But the issue here is not just management, it's at

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<v Speaker 6>board level, it's the staff on the ground. This is

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<v Speaker 6>right through Channel nine. They have an enormous problem on

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<v Speaker 6>their hands. Now they announced yesterday Mike Sneezey announced there's

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<v Speaker 6>going to be an external independent review into the conduct

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<v Speaker 6>and behavior at nine. But I think his tenure is

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<v Speaker 6>in jeopardy. I mean, these stories are not stopping. These

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<v Speaker 6>allegations and claims against staff, including Darren Wick, mainly Darren Wick,

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<v Speaker 6>are not going away.

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<v Speaker 3>And the new news boss at nine, Fiona Dia, has

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<v Speaker 3>come out and said that there is a culture of.

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<v Speaker 2>Power games of the network.

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<v Speaker 3>The Sydney Morning Heralds reported that Starfiell, that former boss

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<v Speaker 3>Star and Week has created this culture of ghosting, belittling

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<v Speaker 3>and favoritism. Goodness may it sounds like some sort of

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<v Speaker 3>dating game show.

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<v Speaker 6>It's pretty worrying stuff, Reacher, and this is going through

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<v Speaker 6>their newsrooms across the country.

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<v Speaker 5>This is not just isolated to Sydney.

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<v Speaker 8>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>He left in March.

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<v Speaker 6>He said he went on for a walk along the

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<v Speaker 6>beach and he decided he was tired and he needed

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<v Speaker 6>a break.

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<v Speaker 5>Nine.

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<v Speaker 6>We were asking them where is he. We were told

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<v Speaker 6>he was coming back. That was not the case. There's

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of people that seem to.

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<v Speaker 5>Be covering up what is actually happening here.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>The Daily Telegraph has been slammed not by Kevin Rudd

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<v Speaker 3>this time, but by the Chinese Communist Party. Their officials

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<v Speaker 3>are not happy that the Chinese Consulate General in Sydney

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<v Speaker 3>sent emails to Australian politicians criticizing them for attending a

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<v Speaker 3>gala in celebration of Taiwan and something the Daily Telegraph

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<v Speaker 3>reported on. So the CCP is not happy with the Telly.

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<v Speaker 3>I would have thought that's a badge of honor for them.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 7>Rata?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, should they be concerned that the CCP is

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<v Speaker 6>not happy.

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<v Speaker 5>With their reporting? Probably highlights that they're doing a very

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<v Speaker 5>good job.

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>And finally, Sophie Richard Kemp is an outsider's favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>He is a fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>Voice on geopolitical issues and he's been in Australia and

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<v Speaker 3>been shocked by what he's seen on our university campuses.

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<v Speaker 3>Writing in The Telly today, he said they've gone full

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<v Speaker 3>hamas he said, particularly about Sydney UNI. Just like inside Gaza,

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<v Speaker 3>free speech is not allowed on the encamp Perhaps the

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<v Speaker 3>campus rabel rousers are afraid their minions will say too

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<v Speaker 3>much about their real agenda or reveal their lack of

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<v Speaker 3>knowledge about what they are actually protesting about He is

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<v Speaker 3>a retired British Army commander, Sophie, and if he's shocked

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<v Speaker 3>by the level of extremism on these university campuses, I

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<v Speaker 3>think we should listen.

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<v Speaker 5>We should listen.

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<v Speaker 6>But Richard, it's been pretty horrifying some of the images

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<v Speaker 6>that have been coming out from the university's people scared,

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<v Speaker 6>particularly Jewish students, saying that they're scared to even go

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<v Speaker 6>to university. This is a really serious problem that the

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<v Speaker 6>country is facing at the moment, and these activists at

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<v Speaker 6>the universities, I argue, you should be more focused on

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<v Speaker 6>getting their degrees and getting good jobs than you know,

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<v Speaker 6>making you know, a problem for themselves.

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<v Speaker 5>So they're making these universities.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not just.

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<v Speaker 3>Making a problem for themselves and making a problem for

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<v Speaker 3>the kids who do want to go to classes and study,

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<v Speaker 3>because they are obstructing that. They are intimidating students. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure everybody would have watched Josh Friedenberg's documentary Never

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<v Speaker 3>Again earlier tonight. It lays out precisely what is wrong

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<v Speaker 3>with the leadership of these universities and also the activism

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<v Speaker 3>on campuses.

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<v Speaker 2>So feelsworth Thank you so much for your time this evening.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Reta joining me now.

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<v Speaker 3>Sky News contributor Gary Hardgrave. Gary, let's start with the

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<v Speaker 3>news that one in five detainees released after the High

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<v Speaker 3>Courts and Zedyq decision has.

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<v Speaker 2>Been charged with a new crime.

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<v Speaker 3>We've had twenty eight be charged and let's not forget

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<v Speaker 3>they haven't been released that long. And now we've got

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<v Speaker 3>dozens more convicted criminals planning to use a ministerial direction

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<v Speaker 3>to successfully appeal their visa cancelations. This ministerial direction is

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<v Speaker 3>from the Immigration Minister.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Jarles is.

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<v Speaker 3>Just stuffing up this portfolio, and it's an important portfolio.

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<v Speaker 2>Gary, is the Prime minister going to make a move here.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how the factions work. I really don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but read I got to say it is a nation

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<v Speaker 1>building portfolio and that's what immigration should be. It should

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<v Speaker 1>be a portfolio of the Australians are very confident in

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<v Speaker 1>is being run properly and it's got to be an

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<v Speaker 1>Australia's best interest that anybody who migrates here or visits

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<v Speaker 1>here comes. It's got to be Australia's best interest if

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to breach the trust and there's what over

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty or so of these people that

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<v Speaker 1>have been released for whatever reason, with alleged crimes in

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<v Speaker 1>the background, and all sorts of problems that may well

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<v Speaker 1>be facing as a result of what they've done. Since

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<v Speaker 1>that is a breach of trust, these are things that

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<v Speaker 1>ministers should intervene in. If ministers should have opinions on,

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<v Speaker 1>ministers should act on. But what I don't get with

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<v Speaker 1>this Blake is he doesn't seem to be acting in

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<v Speaker 1>Australia's interests. It seems to be oh, someone's had a

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<v Speaker 1>word to him about this, or someone's had a word

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<v Speaker 1>to him about that. It shouldn't be a giveaway. This

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<v Speaker 1>should be a tough thing to get the status to stay.

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<v Speaker 1>And if people pray you break the law again, well

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the second chance is out the door,

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<v Speaker 1>and don't let it hit you on the way out.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty simple. We need toughness in this because reader for

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<v Speaker 1>the tens of thousands who do comply with the laws,

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<v Speaker 1>they need to know that their status is assured because

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<v Speaker 1>the few do the wrong thing of being acted on

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<v Speaker 1>in a tough way. This minister is all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>He should go The Prime mister hasn't got the courage

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<v Speaker 1>to do it though.

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<v Speaker 3>He has just been consistently inepty is not up to

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<v Speaker 3>this portfolio, and the fact that he hasn't been moved

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<v Speaker 3>along to something that is more fitting his ability is.

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<v Speaker 2>An indictment on the Prime Minister.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it's very clear that he is not equipped to

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<v Speaker 3>deal with this portfolio. It seems every step of the

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<v Speaker 3>way he has stuffed up. Now let's talk about Queensland.

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<v Speaker 3>Their labor government is being accused of failing to for

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<v Speaker 3>the state's population. Boom figures reveal it's Queensland's on track

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<v Speaker 3>to hits decade old prediction of five point seventy three

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<v Speaker 3>million by twenty twenty six. Premier step Miles earlier this

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<v Speaker 3>month called on the federal government to slow down net

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<v Speaker 3>migration from overseas, arguing the population is growing faster than

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<v Speaker 3>new homes can be built. Yes, thank you, Captain obvious.

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<v Speaker 3>But his own government is being accused of abysmal planning

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<v Speaker 3>failures for failing to heed their own previous warnings. Is

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<v Speaker 3>this going to become an issue coming up to the

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<v Speaker 3>state election. It seems like Stephen Miles is a smart

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<v Speaker 3>political operator. He can read the opinion polls. He knows

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<v Speaker 3>people want to see cuts to migration. He's backed Peter Dutton.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, he said that was my idea that Peter

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<v Speaker 3>Dutton took. But when you scrutinize the Labor government in

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<v Speaker 3>Queensland the guilty of ill planning themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. The only plan they've got is how to give

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<v Speaker 1>more money to the CFMU. I mean they've got this

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<v Speaker 1>tax on everything that's being built that basically is laundering

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<v Speaker 1>money through the CFMU. The price of concrete for a

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<v Speaker 1>backyard barbecue project is affected by the price of concrete

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<v Speaker 1>that they'll pay for a state taxpayer funded project run

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<v Speaker 1>by the CFMU in the middle of the city. Nothing's

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<v Speaker 1>getting built. And this is a government that has actually

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<v Speaker 1>given up on planning. It is in fact unable to

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<v Speaker 1>make a decision about anything anytime anywhere anymore. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>a government that has run out of puff. And look,

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<v Speaker 1>I come from Queensland. I'm a proud Queenslander. It distresses

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<v Speaker 1>me because the planning was there. They were told this

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<v Speaker 1>was what the population was going to be ten years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>what the population was going to be next year. They

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<v Speaker 1>were told that, and yet they failed to plan and

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<v Speaker 1>now he's blaming migration. Well, the simple reality is it's

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<v Speaker 1>a complete failure of the government to prioritize the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of infrastructure we need in our roads are one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no doubt there's a need for that. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>the Olympics coming in twenty thirty two. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how anybody is going to get a walk around. They're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have to walk around Brisbane, that's any way

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<v Speaker 1>they can get around. And the Royal System reader was

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<v Speaker 1>designed in the eighteen sixties and built in the eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventies and no new rail line, so you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you can throw water in the failure to plan

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<v Speaker 1>properly for power. We used to have the world's cheapest

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<v Speaker 1>and plentiful supply of electricity forty years ago. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is a government that has been in office really for

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<v Speaker 1>the last thirty five years, not just for the last

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<v Speaker 1>nine or ten years, and they really have failed to

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<v Speaker 1>deliver for Queensland's tomorrow. And so yes, it is an

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<v Speaker 1>issue and David Chris Ofouley has got to tell us

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<v Speaker 1>what he's going to do for the next generation of Queenslanders,

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<v Speaker 1>not just the next election. And I think if he

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<v Speaker 1>seals that he'll win this inner canna because Queenslanders want action.

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<v Speaker 1>They want action.

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<v Speaker 2>Queensland has won action.

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<v Speaker 3>But then we saw Liberal Nationals back the Miles government's

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<v Speaker 3>bold mission targets that surprise a lot of people, particularly

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<v Speaker 3>at an election where cost of living is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a major concern and you basically are taking energy

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<v Speaker 3>out of the equation as an ideological point, as a

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<v Speaker 3>policy area where you can challenge the government.

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<v Speaker 2>What is the election looking.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, what's your prediction of what we're going to see?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's coming at the end of October. Who knows

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things could happen between now and then.

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<v Speaker 1>But a courageous decision to back a bad policy, the

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<v Speaker 1>Miles government policy on net zero. It was also another

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<v Speaker 1>courageous decision to pooh pooh Peter Dutton's discussion his plan

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<v Speaker 1>to talk at least about nuclear being a viable, cheap

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<v Speaker 1>alternative and a carbon free alternative to renewables. And yet

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<v Speaker 1>we all we know there's a long long way to

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<v Speaker 1>go on all of that. So look, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>State opposition is going to hear a lot from the

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<v Speaker 1>grassroots members of the Liberal National Party in coming weeks

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<v Speaker 1>because they're having a convention at the end of journ.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll wait and see. But look, there is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to be done. This is David Chrystop foolis to lose

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<v Speaker 1>and he's got to get It's sharp in people's minds

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<v Speaker 1>that he will be different in the right places. He's

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<v Speaker 1>talking about law and order, he's talking about cost of living,

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<v Speaker 1>but your right power is a major living component, and

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot of members of the party it's an

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<v Speaker 1>article of faith. Dutton's on the right path and the

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<v Speaker 1>state opposition's got to catch up. They've just got to

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<v Speaker 1>catch up to him. I wish them well.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very sir Humphrey of you to call those decisions courageous.

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed that. Now I know you're.

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<v Speaker 3>In aviation buff I'm interested in your take on this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just incredible footage.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure it will go viral around the world by

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the week, if it hasn't already. A

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<v Speaker 3>right aircraft that lost power mid flight, only narrowly missing

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<v Speaker 3>hitting houses in suburban Sydney before making a crash landing

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<v Speaker 3>on a runway. This is a a may Day call.

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<v Speaker 3>The pilot managed to just miss trees houses.

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<v Speaker 7>You can see it just got past.

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<v Speaker 3>The hangar there apparently only a meter, and he had

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<v Speaker 3>pulled the wheels up because it didn't think he would

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<v Speaker 3>get past the hangars with the wheels and a perfect

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<v Speaker 3>crash landing. Both the pilot and the passenger walked away.

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<v Speaker 3>Just incredible footage. And let's hear now from the pilot.

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<v Speaker 9>It was lighting.

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<v Speaker 10>It wasn't a no goer.

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<v Speaker 2>We clipped the peas and we just made it over

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<v Speaker 2>the hangar. How close were you coming over the homes?

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<v Speaker 11>It was very close.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't think we were going to make this landing

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<v Speaker 2>strip out. It looked to me like you were about

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<v Speaker 2>three or four meters above the homes. Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 2>very very and the hangar it look like you're about

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<v Speaker 2>a meter above. That just cleared it.

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<v Speaker 12>Jake retracted the landing gear because he thought he would

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<v Speaker 12>hit the roofs.

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<v Speaker 9>It's why he landed the plane on its belly.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you going to do to celebrate tonight?

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<v Speaker 10>And I think just be alone.

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<v Speaker 13>Be al.

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<v Speaker 7>Just incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a pilot you would feel safe being in

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<v Speaker 3>charge of a.

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<v Speaker 2>Massive passenger plane.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is an argument that's happening in the

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<v Speaker 3>US in particular about DEI policies and getting more diversity

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<v Speaker 3>in the cockpit. I think that just proves you want meritocracy,

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<v Speaker 3>You want the very best people to be flying the plane,

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<v Speaker 3>especially if there's hundreds of passengers on board.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's why I stick with Quotus myself. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why I flew flew with Cortus from Brisbane. The camber look, Rita.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy knew that you dangled the dunlops for wind

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<v Speaker 1>resistance to bring it closer to the ground. In a

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<v Speaker 1>proper landing, will lift it up to get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>that resistance so it could go that little bit further.

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect belly landing, took it off the runway, dropped it

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<v Speaker 1>on the grass. Twenty out of ten. I give him

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<v Speaker 1>twenty out of ten.

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<v Speaker 3>Well done, incredible, incredible, Gary Hardgrave, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Still to come.

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<v Speaker 3>Lefties Losing It featuring the Leader of the Free World

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<v Speaker 3>plus Josh Hammer joins me to explain the latest conspiracy

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<v Speaker 3>theory that's turned out.

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<v Speaker 14>To be true.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it's time for Lefties Losing It, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's high time we checked on the Leader of the

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<v Speaker 3>Free World. President Joe Biden has in recent days repeated

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<v Speaker 3>another verifiable lie, this time telling West Point graduates that

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<v Speaker 3>he was appointed to the Naval Academy.

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<v Speaker 2>Sadly that never actually happened.

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<v Speaker 14>I was appointed by my the fell I ran against

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<v Speaker 14>when I was twenty nine years old, to the Naval Academy.

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<v Speaker 14>I was one of ten I wanted to play football.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, there's no record of any of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Another Biden fantasy, but I guess it's a rather small

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<v Speaker 3>eye compared to the ones he has told in recent

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<v Speaker 3>weeks about cauniballs and being arrested fighting for civil rights. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>this next last is always teaching us something.

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<v Speaker 2>We do.

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<v Speaker 3>Love her work on Lefties Losing It, where she has

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<v Speaker 3>told us about the wacky world of neo pronouns. That's

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<v Speaker 3>for folks who identify as ravens or toasters or I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, milk products.

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<v Speaker 7>But today she's going.

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<v Speaker 3>To teach us what non binary terms we can call

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<v Speaker 3>mum and dad, because you know, mum and dad is

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<v Speaker 3>so HETERONORMALI.

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<v Speaker 4>Instead of using the typical mom and dad parent titles,

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<v Speaker 4>there's actually gender neutral and non binary parent titles that exists.

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<v Speaker 4>It can be hard for parents within the lgbtqae plus

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<v Speaker 4>community to find a word that they feel comfortable being

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<v Speaker 4>addressed as by their children. So here are some examples.

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<v Speaker 15>Dumma, Mada, Maddie, Mardy, Mapa, Nini, Nopah, nori Opah, Pere, pomp, pom, sasa,

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<v Speaker 15>and zizi.

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<v Speaker 3>You can find more examples on the website listed above

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<v Speaker 3>to the University of North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 2>And we like this university. You might remember that's where.

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<v Speaker 3>Students staged a fight back against the anti American lunacy

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<v Speaker 3>taking over college campuses, where the frat boys gathered to.

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<v Speaker 2>Protect the American flag as idiot.

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<v Speaker 3>Protesters held abuse at them and few objects as well.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's a university with the board of governors last

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<v Speaker 3>week voted to repeal DEI Policies Diversity and Inclusion Policies

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<v Speaker 3>and instead replace it with this saying things like ensure

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<v Speaker 3>equality of all persons and viewpoints wonderful and promote non

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<v Speaker 3>discrimination in employment practices precisely what we want to see.

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<v Speaker 3>But not everyone was happy with this new policy that

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<v Speaker 3>embraces real equality and free speech. The camp has lefties

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<v Speaker 3>lost it and then got arrested for.

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<v Speaker 12>We are intimidation.

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<v Speaker 15>That is what we're here for.

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<v Speaker 11>We're here for low they are directly upholster.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, don't try that nonsense in North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, aren't you just thrilled that.

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<v Speaker 3>Your taxes will be paying off the student loans of

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<v Speaker 3>fiscally irresponsible fools. You got themselves into enormous stets, often

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<v Speaker 3>for junk degrees that don't actually help them get a

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<v Speaker 3>decent job, like serve.

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<v Speaker 16>With all due respect, I mean that's so respectfully, you

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<v Speaker 16>took out over one hundred and fifty thousand dollars worth

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<v Speaker 16>of loans and basically learn how to cook. And I'm

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<v Speaker 16>supposed to pretend to be surprised that you can't now

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<v Speaker 16>afford to pay off these loans.

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<v Speaker 6>We all deserve to have an education and to follow

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<v Speaker 6>our dreams.

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<v Speaker 2>That's an American way.

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<v Speaker 9>Privilege, have an education.

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<v Speaker 16>That's why we're all privileged to be American. My biggest

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<v Speaker 16>issue with student loan forgiveness is that it's a lack

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<v Speaker 16>of accountability for people's financially reckless decisions.

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<v Speaker 9>Because you have these people they were they take off.

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<v Speaker 16>These wildly massive loans to get a degree, to put

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<v Speaker 16>themselves in the career path. Did they know from the

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<v Speaker 16>get go it's never going to feasibly be able to

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<v Speaker 16>pay off this amount of money.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, that intelligent young man on doctor phil Is Xavia Deruso,

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<v Speaker 3>who might the lefty rent seekers lose it? When he

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<v Speaker 3>told them some harsh home truths.

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<v Speaker 9>I went to the University of Illinois with an academic

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<v Speaker 9>full ride. My scholarships came from putting my back into

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<v Speaker 9>my education. So why should I be responsible for paying

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<v Speaker 9>off someone else's debt?

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<v Speaker 13>What makes this debt more righteous than the small plumber

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<v Speaker 13>who took out a loan to buy a new van,

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<v Speaker 13>or the person who got a mortgage, or what makes

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<v Speaker 13>it fair to the person who paid off their debts

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<v Speaker 13>to the parent who just wrote the last check for

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<v Speaker 13>their son or daughter to go to college.

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<v Speaker 9>No one forced you to get those loans, so don't

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<v Speaker 9>force me to pay it off.

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<v Speaker 16>You can't be a part of the twelve percent of

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<v Speaker 16>people in a mayor who have student loan debt and

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<v Speaker 16>then look at the eighty eight percent of us who

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<v Speaker 16>aren't in that situation and expect us to pay off

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<v Speaker 16>the decision you made.

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<v Speaker 3>Race, class, gender, I'll play an important.

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<v Speaker 7>Role to matt access.

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<v Speaker 5>This isn't just about student loan debt.

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<v Speaker 6>This is about equal access to generational wealth.

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<v Speaker 3>Equal access to generational wealth. That sounds like communism. No,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you, that's a poisonous doctrine that has killed millions,

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<v Speaker 3>tens of millions. By the way, here is some good news.

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<v Speaker 3>Biden's latest student loan handout could cost.

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<v Speaker 2>As much as seven hundred and fifty billion. Did I

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<v Speaker 2>say good news? I didn't mean that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why I said good I think we

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<v Speaker 3>could all do with a laugh.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, here is a young man who decided he

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<v Speaker 2>was going to join a queer fat club.

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<v Speaker 3>Problem is, is not really fat or queer, but you

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<v Speaker 3>know he can identify as a trans fat.

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<v Speaker 11>This is a queer fat club.

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<v Speaker 17>Queer and fat.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, thank you for joining me. We're just introducing ourselves

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<v Speaker 8>at the moment. Okay, do you want to go ahead

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<v Speaker 8>and introduce yourself?

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<v Speaker 17>Joe, Yeah, my name is Joe. I go by he Day,

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<v Speaker 17>and I identify as two hundred and seventy five pounds. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 17>I feel like Jays kind of making fun of me,

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<v Speaker 17>though I know it's kind of a shock, I know, kind.

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<v Speaker 15>Of a new thing.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm do what said. I apologize.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're good.

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<v Speaker 11>Are you comfortable leaving the group at the moment? Why.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm not understanding why you're joining the group.

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<v Speaker 17>This is the queer in fat group now, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 17>that's what I came here for.

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<v Speaker 11>Okay.

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<v Speaker 8>And you said you identify as fat? Yeah, okay, this

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<v Speaker 8>is just for fat bodied people.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, I understand, I identify as a fat bodied person.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm not understanding where you're coming from.

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<v Speaker 17>Are you guys comfortable with me here? I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 17>pretty chill.

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<v Speaker 2>On my end.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm not comfortable.

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<v Speaker 7>No, very droll work.

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<v Speaker 2>Now let's do more lifties losing it with mine?

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<v Speaker 3>Next guest, and here is US Senate Leader Chuck Schumer

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<v Speaker 3>revealing that the Democrats want more immigrants, illegal or not,

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<v Speaker 3>and they want them all to become citizens who can vote.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was a conspiracy theory.

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<v Speaker 12>Now more than ever, we're short of workers. We have

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<v Speaker 12>a population that is not reproducing it on its own

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<v Speaker 12>with the same level that it used to. The only

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<v Speaker 12>way we're going to have a great future in America

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<v Speaker 12>is if we welcome and embrace immigrants, the Dreamers, and

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<v Speaker 12>all of them, because our ultimate goal is to help

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<v Speaker 12>the Dreamers, but get a path to citizenship for all

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<v Speaker 12>eleven million or however many undocumented there.

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<v Speaker 3>Are here, Let's bring in senior editor at large for Newsweek,

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<v Speaker 3>Josh Hammer. Josh, what do you make of Chuck Schumer's comments?

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<v Speaker 3>There wasn't long ago that if you suggested that the

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<v Speaker 3>Democrats wanted all these legal immigrants to cross the border

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<v Speaker 3>because they eventually become Democrat voters, you were called some

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<v Speaker 3>sort of crazy conspiracy theorist.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, how many times recently in American politics do

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<v Speaker 10>we need to see yet another example of what was

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<v Speaker 10>once dismissed as a so called far right conspiracy theory

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<v Speaker 10>which has been once again been validated because of these

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<v Speaker 10>crazy times that we're living in. I mean, I see

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<v Speaker 10>clips like this read and I think back to, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>the crazy conspiracy theory that the COVID nineteen pandemic might

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<v Speaker 10>have emerged from the lab in Wuhan, China, Or that

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<v Speaker 10>crazy conspiracy theory that Hunter Biden's laptop was in fact,

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<v Speaker 10>very very real and was not just fabricated by Russian

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<v Speaker 10>intelligence assets, as fifty one US deep state spooks promptly

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<v Speaker 10>said in a statement that was issued by the FEDS

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<v Speaker 10>roughly twenty four hours after the New York Post story

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<v Speaker 10>came to line October twenty twenty. This is just the

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<v Speaker 10>latest indication in a very long and very unflattering line

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<v Speaker 10>of conspiracy theories that are no longer conspiracy theories. By

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<v Speaker 10>the way, what Chuck Schumer is saying there getting to

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<v Speaker 10>the substance of his remo. What he is saying in

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<v Speaker 10>there at the beginning of that clip we just heard

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<v Speaker 10>where he is saying that America's population is not reproducing

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<v Speaker 10>the way it used to. We're simply not having enough babies. Well,

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<v Speaker 10>empirically speaking, he happens to be right about that. America's

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<v Speaker 10>current birth rate is roughly one point six to one

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<v Speaker 10>point sixty five children per child bearing women, which is

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<v Speaker 10>well below replacement level. But how about you look at

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<v Speaker 10>that and then you do something about it. How About

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<v Speaker 10>you try to make America a better and more appealing

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<v Speaker 10>place in which to raise children. How About you try

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<v Speaker 10>to change the material incentives you try to grow the economy.

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<v Speaker 10>Don't just tell Americans that they're being too selfish or

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<v Speaker 10>that they're not taking enough abortion pills or something crazy

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<v Speaker 10>like that, so it's not reproducing that generation. You're identifying

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<v Speaker 10>a good problem there, chructure or this solution is not

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<v Speaker 10>just to willing really import mass third worlders who simply

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<v Speaker 10>do not share our values. The solution is to make

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<v Speaker 10>America a better place to have more children.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got more Democrats embarrassing themselves is a start with

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<v Speaker 3>the elan Omer, one of the squad members here, who

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<v Speaker 3>tweeted this on Memorial Day, obviously not understanding what the

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<v Speaker 3>day is supposed to commemorate, and another squad members, Congresswoman

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<v Speaker 3>Cory Bush, also tweeted.

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<v Speaker 7>This, mentioning all sorts of things.

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<v Speaker 3>Universal health care and affordable housing. Both those tweets have

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<v Speaker 3>now been deleted Josh, because presumably someone in their staff

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<v Speaker 3>told them what Memorial Day actually means.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>Look, Leftizria have a very very long standing habit of

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<v Speaker 10>trying to universalized messages that ought to be particulous, So,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, to to give just one example, I mean,

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<v Speaker 10>I'm Jewish, and we have a very long history in

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<v Speaker 10>America of politicians, especially from the Democratic side of the Isle,

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<v Speaker 10>who take many of our Jewish holidays such as Passover,

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<v Speaker 10>which is of course about the exodus from Egypt and

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<v Speaker 10>the liberation of the Jewish people, and trying to universe

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<v Speaker 10>this message to be any kind of just kind of

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<v Speaker 10>hold our hands smoke a piece pipe Kumbaya kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 10>They try to take the passover message and they'll twist

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<v Speaker 10>it and turn it to be about the liberations of

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<v Speaker 10>LGBT rights or the liberation of the legal aliens. A

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<v Speaker 10>lot of Chuck Schumer's clip there. This to me is

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<v Speaker 10>very much in that line where you take a very

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<v Speaker 10>specific particular day. Memorial Day here in America is a

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<v Speaker 10>very solemn day. It is where we remember those who

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<v Speaker 10>give the ultimate sacrifice to defend this last great nation,

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<v Speaker 10>this last dying perhaps, but this last is still in existence,

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<v Speaker 10>gasp of freedom in Western civilization. And we and we

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<v Speaker 10>look to those who gave the ultimate sacrifice, and we

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<v Speaker 10>pay our very solemn respects. To quote the Great General

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<v Speaker 10>George Patten, today on Memorial Day here in America is

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<v Speaker 10>not a day to be sad, to mourn those who die,

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<v Speaker 10>but rather to thank God that such men live. That's

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<v Speaker 10>the That's the quote from George Patten. And then to

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<v Speaker 10>take that message and to try to do a Corey

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<v Speaker 10>Push and illin Omar and these various other squad far

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<v Speaker 10>left nut jobs are doing and talking about, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>Black Lives Matter, Antifa, universal healthcare, Palestinian rights, I legal

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<v Speaker 10>aliens totally totally missing the forest for the trees. But

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<v Speaker 10>it's not just accidental, reader. I think that there is

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<v Speaker 10>a slight dose of intentionality here. They know what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 10>They're trying to undermine America's psalm traditions and holidays in

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<v Speaker 10>favor of their very tendentious genda.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably, but it's interesting that this time around they deleted

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<v Speaker 3>those tweets. I think a couple of years ago they

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<v Speaker 3>may have not, but I don't know. We're in an election, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe they're a little bit more sensitive. You might remember

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<v Speaker 3>this classic from Kamala Harris a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this was actually her first year as VAP,

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<v Speaker 3>and she posted this for Mourial to have enjoyed the

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<v Speaker 3>long weekend. That really is just so poignant, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>Goodness may Now, there's been a number of attax josh

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<v Speaker 3>from assailants in recent years.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard not to notice.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not suggesting they're disproportionately represented in the stats. Someone

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<v Speaker 3>else can look into the figures and let me know

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<v Speaker 3>about that. But there have been several instances of men

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<v Speaker 3>identifying as women and a couple of women identifying as

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:25.000
<v Speaker 3>men being behind really violent, disturbing crimes. And there was

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<v Speaker 3>another one over the weekend, and New York Post repeats

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<v Speaker 3>that the knifemen accused of stabbing six people, including three children,

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<v Speaker 3>and suspected of killing another, appears to have been in

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<v Speaker 3>the process of changing their identity and they insist on

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<v Speaker 3>being called a she.

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<v Speaker 10>Look, this is once again just another data point in

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<v Speaker 10>what is a longstanding problematic trend. I mean, look, it

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<v Speaker 10>feels like it was just yesterday. Our new cycle moves

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<v Speaker 10>so quickly now that we forget that this is over

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<v Speaker 10>a year ago. Now, there was the school shooting in Nashville, Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 10>of the Covenant School, of that Christian school by a

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<v Speaker 10>former student of that school, who it turns out was

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<v Speaker 10>a transgender individual. And what this individual did was they

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<v Speaker 10>went back to that to that school and then before

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<v Speaker 10>going to shoot up and try to murder children there

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<v Speaker 10>who were just attending a school in a given day

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<v Speaker 10>in March twenty point three, first went to the church

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<v Speaker 10>that connects to the school and shot at the stained

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<v Speaker 10>glass depiction of the prophet Abraham, you know, the great

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<v Speaker 10>patriarch Abraham, the father of all three monotheistic religions. You

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<v Speaker 10>know what would compel someone who was a former Christian

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<v Speaker 10>school student who became a transgender person to shoot up

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<v Speaker 10>a stained glass depiction of the father of all of

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<v Speaker 10>Western monotheistic religion. I mean, the question kind of answers itself, right,

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<v Speaker 10>There's something very deeply psychologically troubling going on here. And

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<v Speaker 10>you know, I'm not a psychologist. Don't take it from me.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, go back and look at the DSM three,

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<v Speaker 10>the DSM four. I mean, gender dysphoria up until fairly recently,

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<v Speaker 10>was a universally recognized social malady, and it was a

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<v Speaker 10>psychological matter for which the proper treatment was seen as

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<v Speaker 10>psychologists seeing a psychiatrist and ultimately getting some form of

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 10>advanced kind of psychological training. It was only a fairly

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<v Speaker 10>recent memory, reader, that we have decided to not just

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 10>bestow this an impromoter of legitimacy, but to try to

0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 10>kind of you give it much praise and adoration and

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<v Speaker 10>all this as well. I am waiting for conservatives to

0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:24.759
<v Speaker 10>try to make this point articulately, because a lot of

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 10>people tend to kind of put out a lot of

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:30.759
<v Speaker 10>fiery rhetica, fiery rhetoric without much substance or policy beef

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 10>behind it there. But at this point this is too

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:35.960
<v Speaker 10>big of a problem to simply ignore. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 10>you are a man who thinks that you are a woman,

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:40.719
<v Speaker 10>we should have compassion and we should encourage you to

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<v Speaker 10>seek help. But to pretend like this is just a

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 10>normal situation just to keep on going on, people are

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<v Speaker 10>ultimately going to continue to die and get wounded and

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:51.359
<v Speaker 10>tragically just murdered by people just like this. I fear

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<v Speaker 10>unless we get to the bottom of what's actually going

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<v Speaker 10>on psychologically.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, this is interesting, Josh, Silicon Valley is turning away

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<v Speaker 3>from the Democrats. We are told I'm not sure if

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:07.799
<v Speaker 3>I believe this, but we have investors and venture capitalists

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:14.359
<v Speaker 3>saying it's becoming impossible to support Joe Biden. What do

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<v Speaker 3>you make of this? I mean, this is something that

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<v Speaker 3>has been a very much a stronghold for the Democrats.

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 3>Silicon Valley has traditionally lent left quite strongly.

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<v Speaker 2>Could they come around embracing Donald Trump?

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<v Speaker 10>You know, it really does seem almost impossible. I mean,

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<v Speaker 10>of all of America's major industries, big tech in Silicon

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 10>Valley is, as you accurately say, by far, one of

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<v Speaker 10>the most reliable Democratic Party voting blocks. I mean, it's

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:49.080
<v Speaker 10>right there, literally in northern California, which is about as

0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 10>blue an area of America as possibly guess. I kind

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<v Speaker 10>of have to wonder here if the Elon must trend

0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:57.880
<v Speaker 10>on Twitter export of recalling of these days, if that

0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 10>trend is actually kind of auguing a broader kind of

0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 10>paradigm and shift. Now, Look, the Democratic Party is no

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:09.400
<v Speaker 10>actual friend of the big tech platforms. When they actually

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<v Speaker 10>get into power, they're frequently threatening to bust them up

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:14.960
<v Speaker 10>when it comes to anti trust. They're, you know, Democrats,

0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:17.880
<v Speaker 10>just like Republicans, are actually very critical of what in

0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:20.840
<v Speaker 10>America we call Section two thirty immunity, although they're critical

0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:23.239
<v Speaker 10>of it for very different reasons than Republicans tend to be.

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:27.319
<v Speaker 10>So they're actually not particularly favorable to Democrats when they

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 10>get in office. Maybe between that and the fact that

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:33.880
<v Speaker 10>Joe Biden himself is obviously probably senile in the extreme

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:37.400
<v Speaker 10>and quite literally barely even knows what day it is

0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:39.799
<v Speaker 10>ending and why on any given day, you know, maybe

0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:42.000
<v Speaker 10>they're starting to kind of peel away towards Trump on

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 10>the margins here. But I really do find the Elon

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:48.799
<v Speaker 10>Musk possibility here particularly fascinating if you look at kind

0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:51.600
<v Speaker 10>of the human fabric of Silicon Valley, you look at

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:54.759
<v Speaker 10>kind of the Sergei Brains, Larry Page, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk,

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:59.600
<v Speaker 10>it's actually a fairly small cabal of people who are

0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:02.040
<v Speaker 10>kind of the true kingpins of this industry. You're probably

0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 10>talking here about twenty to twenty five people at the most.

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<v Speaker 10>So when someone like Elon Musk can actually take over

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<v Speaker 10>a whole platform and really put it in a very

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<v Speaker 10>different and in many ways in more positive direction, I'm

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<v Speaker 10>really wondering whether that that actually has had a serious

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<v Speaker 10>effect on how his various kind of classmates in that

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<v Speaker 10>Silicon Valley upper class, how they view their relationship to

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<v Speaker 10>American politics as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>Elon sacked we was it eighty ninety percent of Twitter

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<v Speaker 3>now X's employees, and we were told the whole thing

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 3>was going to collapse, and yet it's more popular than ever.

0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 3>It seems to have more activity, more users than ever.

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:47.880
<v Speaker 3>And that's to me one of the most astonishing things

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<v Speaker 3>we've seen in the last couple of years, that you

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<v Speaker 3>could sack ninety percent of a workforce, a well paid workforce,

0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:59.400
<v Speaker 3>and really have no difference in the product in the

0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:01.239
<v Speaker 3>user experience.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>Look, I mean, as a conservative who is on Twitter

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:09.399
<v Speaker 10>a decent amount, probably more than I should be. You know, look,

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 10>I mean in some ways, I mean, the free speech

0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:14.440
<v Speaker 10>absolutism can be a bit of a problem. So you

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:17.640
<v Speaker 10>see some accounts that are viciously racist, you know, you know,

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:20.880
<v Speaker 10>viciously anti Semitic, viciously anti Western that tend to get

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:23.080
<v Speaker 10>boosted here. But you know, I mean that kind of

0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:25.200
<v Speaker 10>is just free speech playing out the way that it's

0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 10>supposed to be, and there are some downsides of that

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:28.719
<v Speaker 10>that are also a lot of upsides of that. You know,

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:30.600
<v Speaker 10>I know that I am not going to get banned

0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 10>from Twitter tomorrow, Rita for simply saying the biological truism

0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:37.480
<v Speaker 10>that there is male and there is female, there is

0:41:37.640 --> 0:41:41.080
<v Speaker 10>xx chromosomal structure, and there's x y chromosomal structure. Back

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 10>in the free elon must status quo anti back when

0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:46.000
<v Speaker 10>Jack Dorsey and the rest of the far left clown brigade,

0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:49.200
<v Speaker 10>back when they were running Twitter, you could literally be

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 10>banned for the platform for saying what I just said

0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:53.960
<v Speaker 10>on your show is that there are two genders. As

0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:56.120
<v Speaker 10>we have known throughout the entire history of humanity. And

0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:58.520
<v Speaker 10>it's very nice to have a social platform now where

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:00.759
<v Speaker 10>you know you're not going to get just and or

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 10>shadow boundary Bloch Willy Nilly for saying such very common, sensible.

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<v Speaker 3>Things, Josh Hamma, thank you so much for your time

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<v Speaker 3>this evening. Thank you, Riader still to come. Psychologists Claire

0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:16.319
<v Speaker 3>Row on the media's calls for under sixteens to be

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:21.239
<v Speaker 3>banned from social media. But does Generation Alpha face more

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:34.919
<v Speaker 3>pressing issues? Claire joins me next you're watching the Riata

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:39.360
<v Speaker 3>Panney Show. Joining me now is psychologist Claire Row. A

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:43.640
<v Speaker 3>lot has been said recently, Claire about banning social media

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:44.920
<v Speaker 3>for children under sixteen.

0:42:44.960 --> 0:42:47.040
<v Speaker 2>I've shared my thoughts on the issue.

0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:50.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm not a fan of this agenda for a number

0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:53.759
<v Speaker 3>of reasons, and one of them is surely this generation,

0:42:54.000 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 3>Generation Alpha have more immediate issues than just social media

0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:04.879
<v Speaker 3>being on TikTok, Instagram and all that entails. And one

0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:09.080
<v Speaker 3>of those things is hardcore pornography, which young children are

0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:13.319
<v Speaker 3>being exposed to from a very young age. We know

0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 3>from research in the UK the average age of children

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:20.360
<v Speaker 3>accessing this hardcore porn is twelve years old. There's a

0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:23.200
<v Speaker 3>lot of them that access it earlier. What is the

0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:28.399
<v Speaker 3>impact on children from accessing this sort of material at

0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:30.440
<v Speaker 3>such a young age.

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<v Speaker 18>Yeah, thanks, Rita. And I think one of the major

0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:37.120
<v Speaker 18>problems here is that, as you said, is younger and younger.

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:39.000
<v Speaker 18>I mean, I think there's a lot of kids who

0:43:39.040 --> 0:43:42.040
<v Speaker 18>are exposed to pornography way before twelve years old. I

0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:44.960
<v Speaker 18>think here tamy Lot has been poot borders and aborigin

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:47.480
<v Speaker 18>a lot of countries. So you know, it's not about

0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:50.680
<v Speaker 18>hiding the Playboy magazine under the bed anymore. And as

0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:54.520
<v Speaker 18>you can imagine, you know, all devices are Internet enabled,

0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:58.120
<v Speaker 18>so at the click of fingertips, you know, children can

0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:01.040
<v Speaker 18>access this. And I think I think this goes really

0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:02.160
<v Speaker 18>to the heart. You know, if we're going to have

0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:06.160
<v Speaker 18>that discussion on social media in general, it really is

0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:10.360
<v Speaker 18>the Internet. It's not social media. It's about the world

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:14.360
<v Speaker 18>being brought into our children's bedrooms. And you know, for

0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:17.280
<v Speaker 18>you and I growing up, if we'd doubt our parents something,

0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:19.640
<v Speaker 18>they would have said, well, i'll tell you when you're older.

0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:22.440
<v Speaker 18>These days, a child will look back at you and say, oh,

0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:25.320
<v Speaker 18>that's okay, I'll google it. I'll I'll google image it,

0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:28.120
<v Speaker 18>and you think, oh my goodness. You know, so parents

0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:31.759
<v Speaker 18>are forced into conversations earlier and earlier. And you know,

0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:35.759
<v Speaker 18>as has been said in recent times, we underprotect our

0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:39.200
<v Speaker 18>children in the real world, you know, but we over

0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:42.359
<v Speaker 18>so we overprotect them in the real world, I should say,

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:47.120
<v Speaker 18>but we underprotect them online. And it's about the entirety

0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:50.160
<v Speaker 18>of you know, the world being brought into their bedrooms.

0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:52.360
<v Speaker 18>And I think for people who don't really understand the

0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:56.480
<v Speaker 18>impacts of pornography, very clear the research that it's not

0:44:56.880 --> 0:45:02.560
<v Speaker 18>just linking behaviors towards risky sexual behaviors, which it does.

0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:07.480
<v Speaker 18>It actually has really clear links in aggression, violence, poor

0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:13.319
<v Speaker 18>academic results, poor socialization, poor friendship, and definitely very poor

0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:18.800
<v Speaker 18>mental health. But it's some more wide reaching than just

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:21.400
<v Speaker 18>saying that if you watch pornography you're going to be

0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:24.920
<v Speaker 18>kind of sexually promiscuous. It's the damage of the far

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:29.040
<v Speaker 18>more maps and for the young children stumbling across this material,

0:45:29.719 --> 0:45:32.840
<v Speaker 18>as you can imagine, I mean, it's very aggressive, violent material.

0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:37.480
<v Speaker 18>Some of it, it's very confronting and traumatizing. You can

0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:39.360
<v Speaker 18>imagine for an eight year old is stumbled onto some

0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 18>of those fites.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh absolutely, it has a powerful impact, often a very

0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:51.279
<v Speaker 3>powerfully negative impact on young adults, so you can only

0:45:51.360 --> 0:45:55.520
<v Speaker 3>imagine young children who really don't comprehend precisely what it

0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:57.759
<v Speaker 3>is they're seeing. Now, I want to ask you about

0:45:57.800 --> 0:46:03.200
<v Speaker 3>the federal budget expanded mental health funding that was applauded

0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:06.960
<v Speaker 3>by many, but there's very little extra money being put

0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:11.200
<v Speaker 3>towards the care for the most severely mentally ill people

0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:15.760
<v Speaker 3>in Australia, those for example, who were suffering from severe schizophrenia.

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:21.480
<v Speaker 3>The Albaneza government, it was very heavily criticized by former

0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:25.560
<v Speaker 3>chair of the Mental Health Australia Board Matt Berryman, who

0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:28.840
<v Speaker 3>said the PM had refused to meet during his first

0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:32.799
<v Speaker 3>two years in office. We are spending a great deal

0:46:32.880 --> 0:46:36.120
<v Speaker 3>of money on mental health, Claire, but is the money

0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:38.320
<v Speaker 3>not going where it's most desperately needed.

0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 18>I think mental health is the only sector where the

0:46:42.920 --> 0:46:46.200
<v Speaker 18>more money we spend, the worse it gets, you know.

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:47.840
<v Speaker 18>I mean, if we were going to put this amount

0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:50.840
<v Speaker 18>of money into something like cancer research, we'd want to

0:46:50.880 --> 0:46:53.880
<v Speaker 18>be looking at the results that you know, cancer was

0:46:53.960 --> 0:46:57.160
<v Speaker 18>coming down, or there was some type of less diagnoses

0:46:57.280 --> 0:46:59.480
<v Speaker 18>were coming down. But mental health seems to be the

0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:02.520
<v Speaker 18>only area where not only do we pile more money

0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:06.520
<v Speaker 18>into it, but the rates of mental health diagnoses keep

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:09.440
<v Speaker 18>going up, and then the circular argument is when we

0:47:09.520 --> 0:47:13.480
<v Speaker 18>need more funding. So one of the issues I have

0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:15.960
<v Speaker 18>is that the government has said said they're going to

0:47:15.960 --> 0:47:19.760
<v Speaker 18>commit to something like five hundred and eighty million dollars

0:47:20.680 --> 0:47:24.719
<v Speaker 18>to come up with some type of online platform where

0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:28.839
<v Speaker 18>all these can call up for some telehealth, some very

0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:31.560
<v Speaker 18>low intensity it calls it. You know, we're not talking

0:47:31.600 --> 0:47:35.520
<v Speaker 18>about clinical depression, we're talking about catching people early.

0:47:36.200 --> 0:47:36.399
<v Speaker 16>Now.

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<v Speaker 18>It sounds lovely, it's all well and good, and there's

0:47:39.920 --> 0:47:44.000
<v Speaker 18>a lot of research that shows the benefit of early intervention, obviously,

0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:48.160
<v Speaker 18>but we do already have that. There's millions of dollars

0:47:48.280 --> 0:47:53.040
<v Speaker 18>poured into things like the Black Dog Institute, Headspace, you know,

0:47:53.400 --> 0:47:56.560
<v Speaker 18>mental health education through schools. There is a lot of

0:47:56.600 --> 0:48:00.480
<v Speaker 18>money there, and it's good to spend money. I'm worried

0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:03.160
<v Speaker 18>that if you actually are more up with severe end

0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:06.239
<v Speaker 18>and you may be having you know, ivepad clients with

0:48:06.400 --> 0:48:11.759
<v Speaker 18>suicidal tendencies, with people with severe psychiatric illnesses, there are

0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:14.480
<v Speaker 18>very few places for them to go to unless they're

0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:17.239
<v Speaker 18>run to salk out for the private system. The number

0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:21.280
<v Speaker 18>of hospital beds I'm concerned about more in mental health warms,

0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:24.239
<v Speaker 18>and I get that we can't just be reactionary and

0:48:24.320 --> 0:48:28.000
<v Speaker 18>we can't just spend money there, but I do feel like, gosh,

0:48:28.040 --> 0:48:31.600
<v Speaker 18>you know, nearly six hundred million dollars to create some

0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:35.880
<v Speaker 18>very vague, no details at the moment platform where you're

0:48:35.880 --> 0:48:38.239
<v Speaker 18>going to call up because you're not feeling that great

0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:40.320
<v Speaker 18>that day and you're going to get some kind of

0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:45.560
<v Speaker 18>free counseling. Yet I've got pretty you know, severe clients

0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:48.720
<v Speaker 18>and bad states where they need more than my support

0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:51.399
<v Speaker 18>and the private sector can offer. And I call around

0:48:51.480 --> 0:48:54.840
<v Speaker 18>trying to get some inpatient support through a hospital system

0:48:54.920 --> 0:48:58.040
<v Speaker 18>and it's not available, and I'm worried about that end

0:48:58.080 --> 0:48:58.680
<v Speaker 18>of the system.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you're working at the cold Face Clairo. Thank you

0:49:04.160 --> 0:49:06.920
<v Speaker 3>so much for your insights tonight. Do you appreciate it?

0:49:07.120 --> 0:49:11.640
<v Speaker 2>And that's it from me. Up next is Newsnight. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>see you at eleven tomorrow. Good night,