WEBVTT - Credlin | 30 July 0:00:02.000 --> 0:00:05.520 Predo Quedlin live from year twenty four. 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:11.160 Good evening, Welcome to the program. Here's what's coming up 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:14.680 tonight on Predlin, a federal labor MP charged with two 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:17.880 counts of assault, the PM refusing to demand that he 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:21.680 stand down, and I hotly contested Darwin seat that could 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:24.439 now be in play. I'll get you an update from 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:28.280 our bloke, ol Matt Cunningham, who broke the story day 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:31.520 two of Ben Carroll as Victorian premier. Already it's hard 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:33.400 to know where he stands, be that on the white 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:36.600 elephant to the suburban rail loop of Dan Andrews and 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:39.839 that bronze statue. But the Liberal leader Jess Wilson, well, 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:44.080 she's already said Dan's bronze is scraped medal if she's elected. 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:49.120 Plus another flashpoint in the debate over biology versus trans ideology, 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:52.800 Curly Smith losing her appeal against a finding that she 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:57.880 unlawfully vilified two transgender footballers. She says I was just 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:01.720 fighting to protect spaces for women. I'll speak to Curely later. 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:05.120 And Pauline Hanson puts forward a plan to lock isis 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:09.040 linked Austradians from our country. I'll speak to Shadow attorney 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:12.479 General Macadia cash to see if they'll work with one nation, 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:16.360 but already Tony Burke is refusing to play bare. 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:20.759 I would not want to go down a path where 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:23.399 somehow we started a principle that countries don't have to 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:24.440 take their citizens back. 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:31.160 We'll stay with that issue because listen carefully here to 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:36.360 the words of former Labor Minister, former army officer Mike Kelly. 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:39.640 The bad news is that there's these elements that are 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:44.640 rising within the Labor movement that have this unholy alliance 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:50.480 between extreme revolutionary Marxists and Aslamist extremists that are trying 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:53.640 to pervert the party. And their goal is not a 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:57.120 two state solution which is aligned with Hamas, because our 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:59.120 mass doesn't support a two state solution. 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:05.280 Remember that a Labor insider warning about the rise of 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:11.040 Islamist extremists inside the Labor Party. Now listen today to 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:14.639 the Prime Minister asked about the return to this country 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:18.760 of doctor Jihad, the Australian Islamic state doctor captured in 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:22.840 Syria with hardcore terrorist fighters now locked up in a 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:24.320 jail in Iraq. 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:31.040 Citizenship does bring certain rights under the Constitution and we 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:35.640 will do everything we can where of course within the 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:39.560 law though, and will also of course provide no support 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:44.960 for any of these people to return to Australia. 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.400 See y Kelly is so concerned about the rise of 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:55.120 Islamist extremists. That's his phrase, Islamist extremists inside Labor. Anthony 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:58.639 Albanezi and his government, well, they have known about doctor 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:02.480 g Hard for four years, and for four years they 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:06.000 have kept his existence a secret. We only know about 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:10.160 him now because journalist Muhammad al Pharez uncovered the truth, 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:14.480 and the Iraqi government well, they answered his questions in 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:19.799 a way that our government still refuses to. Here's Alpharees 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:23.040 on my show exposing Labour's deception. 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:27.560 The government knows everything, in my opinion, and what the 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:31.640 Iraqi government told us the Australian is that the embassy 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:36.240 in Baghdad is following his case and not just his case, 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:41.640 the case of every Australian national in Iraq. So what 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:46.559 that tells us is that the embassy in Baghdad operates 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:52.120 for the Australian government and what they also our sources 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:56.520 have said that Defat was briefed on this back in 0:03:56.560 --> 0:04:03.240 twenty twenty two and in nineteen. Obviously, as we reported. 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:08.440 Labor is lying. The Prime Minister is lying. He's lying 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.720 what he says. He won't give doctor g Hart any help, 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:14.960 and he's playing you for a fool, pretending that if 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:18.240 this isis man wants to come back here, his government's 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:21.120 all but powerless to stop him. Because the fact is 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:25.920 they are not powerless, as former Federal Police Detective Superintendent 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:29.560 David Craig has repeatedly made clear. 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:32.520 First thing the government needs to be doing is using 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:36.240 these temporary exclusion orders. Now, I've seen Tony Burke say 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:39.600 that there'll be a constitutional challenge or that the High 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.920 Court won't like it, or the fact is no high 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:47.960 court has actually tested the validity constitutional validity of temporary 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:49.799 exclusion orders, so that's a nonsense. 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:52.080 He's scared of something that doesn't actually exist. 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:54.920 If this is going to push our laws to the 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:57.320 High Court, then this is the case to do it on. 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:01.680 And if the law need to be boosted, made tougher 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:04.360 to cut off any risk of legal challenge, then that's 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:07.320 what we have a parliament to do. The Parliament sits 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:10.080 again in ten days time. Now, that's more than enough 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:12.680 time to get any new bills drafted to keep this 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:17.000 doctor g Hard out and the twelve other Australian men 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:21.600 linked to ISIS sitting with him in that Iraqi prison. Now, 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:24.440 for the better part of a week now, Alberanezi has 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:29.000 dodged media questions about this isis doctor, so to Tony Burke. 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:32.120 But today the Home Affairs Minister, well, he was also 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:35.360 out in front of the camera, forced to respond to 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:38.360 draft legislation from one nation to do what the government 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:41.559 so far has refused to do, and that's to toughen 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:45.680 these laws to keep the terrorists, alleged terrorists out. 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:50.080 On all the advice that I've had, something like what's 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:52.520 being proposed here at last about thirty seconds in the 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:53.080 High Court. 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:56.920 I mean, come on, you're not even going to try 0:05:57.000 --> 0:06:02.000 Tony Burke. You're not even trying. Hansen's bill isn't strong enough, 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:04.719 as you say that, it wouldn't last thirty minutes in 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:07.440 the High Court, as you say, then you've got a 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:11.440 whole apartment at your disposal. Where's your bill, where's your 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:16.640 tough legislation? Where is it? Fifteen thousand employees in your 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:19.960 own department, and what none of them, not one person, 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:25.560 can draft some legislation. You know what's happening here in 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:29.120 my opinion Labor wants these people back, that Labor will 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:33.080 let these men come back. The brutal truth is that 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:37.080 Labor wants them back in Australia. That Labor will let 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:41.920 these men come back. Now, whether it's the high Muslim 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.880 vote in Labor held seats like Burke's own seat of Watson, 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:49.560 or whether it's the takeover by Islamist extremists is foreshadowed 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:52.800 by Mike Kelly. I don't know, I don't know what's 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:56.520 driving this madness, but it's a complete disregard for the 0:06:56.560 --> 0:07:00.040 first duty of government, and that first duty is to 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:04.800 keep Australian safe, because we can't be safe, as Bondi 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:08.480 has shown us, if we keep importing hate. And there 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:11.760 is no doubt if the allegations about these thirteen men 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:15.840 are true, that bringing known terrorist fighters back into this 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:22.240 country is importing hate, radical Islamist hate. Now, I've been 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:25.000 warning for years that Labor always had a plan to 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:29.040 bring these men home. First, you know, the soft cell 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:32.280 of the women and children, then the men. It was 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:37.160 always about the men. Albanezi and Burke, if they do 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:40.080 not keep these men out, if they don't use the 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:42.920 laws they have now will pass stronger ones. If that's 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:48.720 what's needed. If they don't keep these men out, then 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:54.960 know this, Labor is selling your safety for votes. Labor 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.520 is selling your right to live free from the scourge 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:03.440 of Islamist terrorism for vote. That explains the secrecy, That 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:07.080 explains the lie of we won't help them at the 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:11.040 same time as the government's giving them a passport. It 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:14.400 also explains why they're not sitting down with the opposition 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:18.880 and with one nation, with whomever they need to find 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:23.760 a way through this. Now faced with this same issue 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.880 of Islamic state before, I was in the room on 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:31.160 many occasions where then PM Tony Abbott and then Opposition 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:35.520 Leader Bill short And met. We had national security challenges 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:39.640 about Islamic state back then too, but they worked through 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:43.480 difficult issues like that. Back then, they found a way 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:49.520 to agree on draft legislation. When the meeting ended, Abbot 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:53.720 and shortened, they shook hands, they walked out of their room, 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:56.920 out of the office and into the Parliament and passed 0:08:56.920 --> 0:09:01.360 the laws needed to keep Australian safe. So trust me 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:04.840 on this. It can be done if there's will at 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:08.040 the top, and it must be done now. Over the 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:12.280 next ten days before Parliament resumes. Albanezi must sit down 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:16.160 with all sides of politics now and work this out. 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:22.880 Otherwise I guarantee these thirteen Islamist extremists will be here 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:31.920 in Australia before you know it. Now, Look, last week 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:37.959 I discussed the parallel universe that exists inside the media industry. 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.840 As you know, I don't call myself a journalist, and 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:45.000 I correct anyone that does. If anything, I'm a lawyer 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:49.440 by training and a political strategist by profession. Here on 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:53.079 Sky News, I host an opinion program and that's what 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:57.240 you get every night of the week, my opinion and 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:00.000 the opinion of my guests on all the big issues 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:04.480 facing our country. But that's an honesty you don't always 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:07.640 get from others, do you, From the media types who 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:11.440 like to masquerade as straight back journalist, when in fact 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:15.720 it's opinion dressed up as straight talk and it's about 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:19.440 as biased as you get now. As you know, it's 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:24.079 what they say that's a concern, but just as relevant, 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:27.480 it's also what they don't say, what they leave out, 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:32.040 the questions they're not prepared to ask. The politicians they 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:36.959 go easy on, and let's be honest, it's a sheer 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:41.959 bloody hypocrisy too, like this, all the manufactured outrage of 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:45.800 at a billboard demanding that you senter Alan resign as Premier. 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:50.920 Well that's happened. She's now been ditched. But also almost 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:54.440 crickets when a female business leader, she's not even in politics, 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:58.200 gets threatened with sexual attack. Yes, that's what it is. 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:02.280 When you use the object to rape someone ainally and 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:04.800 then it gets aired on the taxpayer fund at ABC 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:10.000 is so called satire. Well not funny at all. Gina 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:13.440 Reinhart gets named and mocked and or the ABC they 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:17.680 get shielded by the government, shielded by a female, a 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:22.400 female minister at that. My personal review is it's unacceptable. 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:26.240 I like any Australian, there's stuff I see on TV 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:29.000 that I don't agree with. I respect the editorial independence 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:31.000 of the ABC, but I understand they have now referred 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:32.400 it to the Ombudsman. I think that was the right 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:37.120 thing to do. Labour's Me and Girls, well they've clearly gone. 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:40.040 A new member of the team in Artica Wells quick 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:42.800 to call a billboard misogyny if it's about a woman 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:45.640 on the left, but happy to step around the issue 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:48.959 of sexual assault if a woman doesn't vote for them. 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:53.040 Gina Reinhart deserves a full and immediate apology from the 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:56.480 ABC and for all of that content to be taken 0:11:56.640 --> 0:12:01.640 offline and that filmmaker shown the door. Now there's been 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:04.960 something late today from the woman involved, and sorry, she 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:08.160 says to anyone that I have offended. But she doesn't 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:12.800 even have the courage to name Missus Reinhart. And while 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:16.040 they're all out there trying to humiliate her, well, do 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:19.440 you know what she's done overnight? Well, she's kept her 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:21.200 promise to the athletes, that's what she's done. 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:22.120 Now. 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:25.839 After Australia's outstanding metal hall at the comm Games in Glasgow, 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:29.520 Missus Ryanhart's paid out over one point two million in 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:33.920 cash bonuses to swimmers, as she said she would. Thirty 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:36.959 six gold medals. Gold medals are won in the pool, 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:41.160 sixteen silver, twenty three bronze. So you do the math, 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:43.920 twenty thousand for a gold medal fifteen, she said, if 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:47.680 you've got silver and a ten thousand dollars bonus for bronze. 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.640 And she's paid out so much because our swimming team 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:54.679 has done so well. Indeed, out of the one hundred 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:57.679 and three medals so far won by our Australian comm 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:01.120 Games team, seventy five of them they have been won 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:04.320 in the pool. As Olympic legend Dorn Fraser said to 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:07.600 the media today, I wish my dear friend Gina had 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:10.319 been around when I was swimming, And you know, I 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:14.679 want to laugh about this incentive scheme. It's that missus 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:17.440 Reinhart's not pouring money into the head office. She's not 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:22.680 funding the sports bureaucrats. Every dollar she pays goes directly 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:26.000 into the bank account of our athletes. It's money they 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:28.439 can use to pay the rent, to fill up their 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:32.040 car with petrol to get to training. It's real money 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:34.600 that's helping them to be the best in the world, 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:38.160 and for that well, our national broadcast. I think she's 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:42.720 fair game. Now. The media world has changed dramatically from 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:44.920 what it was when the ABC was first created in 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:48.439 nineteen thirty two. The ABC is no longer the fair 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:52.679 and balanced broadcaster it was created. People have got a 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:55.360 whole lot of options now, a lot more than they 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:59.000 had a century ago. So why then a taxpayer spending 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:04.800 one billion dollar a year to promote this rubbish. I 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:06.600 think it's time now for the ABC to move to 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:11.600 a subscription model. People want it, they can pay for it, 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:16.600 but no taxpayer should be funding any network that openly 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:21.560 abuses another Australian and then refuses to admit when they've 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:29.360 got it so wrong. Lots to talk about tonight, but 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:32.760 we'll get the headlines first from Canbra political reporter Reven Spargo. 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:37.720 Good Evening, the Safety Commissioner is taking legal action against 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:42.280 messaging platform Telegram. Julie Inman Grant alleges it has failed 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:45.880 to remove extremist material from its service. She claims the 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:50.160 content included Islamic state executions and beheading videos. 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.960 It is more important than ever that digital platforms meet 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:56.560 their obligations to protect the Australian community. 0:14:56.920 --> 0:15:00.400 The Commissioner says she could apply to have Telegram locked. 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:04.200 The Opposition is calling on One Nation to back its 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:08.760 bill to prevent terrorists from returning to Australia. Angus Taylor's 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.840 message is in response to Pauline Hanson's own attempt to 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:16.040 strengthen laws. She's seeking support for legislation that would allow 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:19.520 the government to cancel the passports of Australians charged with 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:21.680 or convicted of terrorism offenses. 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:24.960 I've asked them to support that legislation as they're ready 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:28.160 to go. That is how we will prevent Terrists from 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:29.160 coming back to this country. 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:33.200 The government maintains it's not helping Australians with Islamic state links, 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:37.360 but says it cannot deny citizens of passport under the constitution. 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:41.040 The Prime Minister is responding to questions over the future 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:44.400 of the suburban rail loop in Victoria. The federal government 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.360 is promising billions of dollars for the project. 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:51.400 When it comes to infrastructure, of course, the former government 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:56.240 reduced spending on Victorian infrastructure to around about eight percent. 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:59.840 Anthony Alberezi says he will work constructively with the state's 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:00.480 new premier. 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:04.600 Right, let's go to the big news today that was 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:08.000 rocking federal politics. Labor MP and remember for the territory 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:11.680 seat of Solomon Luke Gosling charged with the alleged assaults 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:15.920 the Administrator of Northern Territory. So that's the Crown's representative 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:19.480 in the nt our reporter At Cunningham broke the story 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:23.200 this morning. He joins me, Now, as I said, big news, 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:26.240 it's gone national today. A federal MP up your way 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:30.960 charged with assault. What can you tell us this evening? 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:34.160 Well, look. 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:38.240 Gosling has issued a statement late this afternoon, Peter, I 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:40.320 didn't say a lot in that statement, to be honest. 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:42.760 He certainly didn't address the issue of whether he would 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:46.520 be standing down from those special envoy roles that he 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:52.320 holds for Defense and for Northern Australia. He did say 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:54.400 that it had been a big day and that is 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:57.800 certainly the case. Police arrived at Luke Gosling's home in 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:00.960 Darwin this morning where they arrest him and they took 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:03.480 him to the Palmestan Police station. He was questioned there 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:06.879 for about three hours in relation to these allegations that 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:11.000 have been made by the Northern Territories Administrator David Connolly. 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:14.480 Now he has alleged that at a tie festival in 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:17.480 Darwin on July eighteenth, so almost two weeks ago now, 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:23.640 he was assaulted by Luke Gosling. Police interviewed David Connolly 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:25.760 last week for about three hours as well. They took 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:29.680 detailed statements from the administrator. This is a serious charge, Peter, 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:33.320 because of the person that he is involved, as you say, 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:36.480 he is the Crown's representative here in the Northern Territory. 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:40.960 Does carry a maximum jail sentence if convicted of fourteen 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:44.679 years in prison. Now, Luke Gosling, I put it to 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:47.800 him directly when I first broake this story last week, 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:53.280 those allegations, his denial, and the denial today from his 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:54.280 lawyer Martiost. 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:56.879 Hey, Luke, you're running with. 0:17:56.880 --> 0:18:03.840 The administrator on the weekend we gave you didn't want 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:07.400 you didn't have a running with him. 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:11.399 It's particularly concerning that in a matter of this type 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:15.680 police resorted to the power of arrest, where it could 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:17.840 easily have been dealt with or noticed to a peer 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.720 or a summons. It's a concern that that might have 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:25.000 some political basis behind it. The charge is fully and 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:32.440 completely contested, but we're unable to comment any further other 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:35.520 than to say we are assisting police with their investigations 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:36.840 and will cooperate fully. 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:40.880 Matt, just quickly, do we know anything about the nature 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:44.040 of the assault that's alleged to have occurred. 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:50.800 Look, my understanding, Peter, is that what David Connolly is 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:54.120 alleging is that Luke Gosling brushed past him at that 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:59.240 tie festival and ran into him in some way. Now, 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:03.280 he's obviously made a complaint to the police about that, 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:07.720 and Luke Gosling has categorically denied any wrongdoing. In fact, 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:10.840 he said that the allegations level against him. This was 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:13.520 in a statement put out last week. He said that 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:17.560 those allegations were ridiculous. So it has now been listed 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:20.919 for a mention in the Darwin Local Court on the 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:23.840 first of September. I think we're going to have to 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:27.240 wait for that court process to take its place before 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:30.159 we get a better understanding of exactly what has happened 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:35.359 at that festival when these allegations of assault are alleged 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:36.040 to have occurred. 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:39.600 Well, Olivia there, thank you, Matt. I know you'll stay 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:42.040 across it for us. Let's go down to the other 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:44.840 issues we've got here. We've got senior ministers in Victoria 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:48.480 fleeing the sinking ship that is Victorian labor. News today 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:52.240 that both Harriet Shing and Lily Dan Brosigo she's the 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:54.520 Energy Minister. I'm not sorry to see her go, and 0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:57.800 ouncing that they won't contest the election in November. Gentlemen, now, 0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:01.200 Mike panell Use twenty four contributor Carolie kats and Barnas 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:04.760 and Deputy director at the IPA, Dan Wild, Well, Carole, 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:08.160 you're a Victorian. I know you follow this closely. Dan, 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:11.560 you too, you were here during the Andrews years. You've 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:14.960 managed to escape. But I'll get a question into both 0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:17.720 of you. I'll start, though, please Dan, with you on 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.520 the Royal Commission announced, of course this week by the 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:24.960 new premiere. You know, I fear it'll end up a 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:30.359 face like that hotel quarantine inquiry. And this is the 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:33.840 sort of so called answers we'll get. Have a listen. 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:36.320 I can't specifically recall. 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:38.960 I can't recall. I presume I did. 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:41.000 I don't recall the conversation, and I have. 0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:43.199 Some memory, but not for memory. 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:45.960 I don't recall specifically, not to my recollection. 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:47.560 I have no recollection of that. 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:49.359 I can't specifically recall. 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:52.840 Dan, you know how the game works. They're calling it 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:55.119 now because they want to put a labor friendly in 0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:59.040 the chair and Labor wants to write the terms of reference. 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:05.160 Well, that's right, it's say political conjob designed to help 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:07.840 Ban Carroll make good on his worth. That he's not 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:10.000 Daniel Andrews and he's not just Cinter Allen. Well, of 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:13.280 course he's not either of those two individuals. But he 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:16.440 was a very senior member of those governments which were 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:18.679 very bad governments, and I wonder whether he would have 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:22.360 to front such a royal commission. That's unclear, But you're right, 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:24.680 it's all about politics, it's not about getting to the 0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:26.440 bottom of it. And we've already seen this in action 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:30.120 with the Anti Semitism Ryal Commission, which is also unfortunately 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:32.159 a political conjob, where we're not going to get the 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:35.479 truth of the causes of what happened there, nor are 0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:37.520 we going to get any indication of how to improve it. 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:40.520 In fact, Labor is going to use that Anti Semitism 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:44.400 Ryal Commission to featherbed anti hate speech laws. I mean, 0:21:44.440 --> 0:21:46.560 Tony Burke is already paving the way to do that. 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:50.160 So as you know, Labor does this better than anyone else. 0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:52.840 They put their people in, they write the terms of reference, 0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:54.440 they're probably going to get a heads up about what 0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:58.439 the questions will be. So sadly, you know, Victorians are 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:00.840 not going to be any clearer on just the extent 0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:04.480 of the corruption under a Ben Carroll premiership. 0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:09.560 All right, almost forty billion dollars and some of this 0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:12.240 money coming from other states out of the national budget, 0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:15.399 of course, has been spent on this suburban rail loop 0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:18.080 the railway line. I say that goes to nowhere that 0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:21.879 no one wants. It's supposed to cost all up something 0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:26.439 like two hundred billion dollars. When asked the Prime Minister, 0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:29.040 he dodged a question on this have a listen. 0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:34.800 Would you be glad to see it go? 0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:39.520 I spoke with Ben Carrol yessay, and I welcome his 0:22:39.840 --> 0:22:42.680 election as Premier. I look forward to working with him 0:22:42.840 --> 0:22:47.160 for work constructive with the Victorian government to make sure 0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:49.239 that the interests of Victorians are well. 0:22:49.240 --> 0:22:52.159 He's dancing around that one carely, and so too is 0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:57.560 the new Premier. But it's got to go, of course, 0:22:57.600 --> 0:22:58.320 it has to go. 0:22:58.480 --> 0:23:00.719 I mean, he says he'll work construc deductively in the 0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:04.680 interests of all Victorians. Victorians, the debt is scheduled to be, 0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:06.600 as you said, two hundred billion dollars by the end 0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:10.119 of the decade. To put it into context, our interest 0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:13.320 repayments are twenty four million dollars a day as they stand. 0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:16.480 That works out to one million dollars an hour. 0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:17.640 That's just on the. 0:23:17.640 --> 0:23:21.040 Interest to be repaid twenty four million a day, one 0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:22.399 million dollars an hour. 0:23:22.920 --> 0:23:24.160 It is absolutely ridiculous. 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:27.280 The money is not there. This was a plan conjured 0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:30.320 up by Dan Andrews back in twenty eighteen ahead of 0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:35.040 a state election, before COVID, before the goalposts have completely changed. 0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:39.439 Victoria is a broken state. We need help with the crime, 0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:44.719 the health, nurses, doctors, teachers, and it is really insulting 0:23:44.800 --> 0:23:47.399 to say we'll work with the interests of all Victorians. 0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:50.760 It is not in the interests of any Victorian to 0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:55.160 pursue this seventeen kilometers stretch of suburban rail loop when 0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:58.399 we've got businesses smashed, the highest taxes in the state, 0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:02.159 and crime recon called highs. It's absolutely ridiculous. 0:24:03.920 --> 0:24:07.000 He also danced around the Dan Andrews statue. This is 0:24:07.040 --> 0:24:09.879 the new premier. But Jess Wilson, the opposition leader, Well, 0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:11.520 she couldn't have been clearer. Have a listen. 0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:19.840 I have nothing to say on that, and that is 0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:22.240 not a priority of mine. 0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:23.840 He's not a priority of mine. 0:24:23.880 --> 0:24:27.160 Ben Carroll was very tricky today, even refusing to acknowledge it. 0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:30.040 But absolutely, if we come to government, we will not 0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:31.760