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Speaker 1: On scorn Lives Australia.

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Speaker 2: This is the Wider Penalty Show.

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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panety Show coming

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Speaker 3: up tonight, Senator for Team of Payments humiliating social media foil.

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Speaker 3: The panel will be with me to discuss that and

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Speaker 3: plenty more. Shortly, we'll look at the state of the

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Speaker 3: media in the US.

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Speaker 1: We trust in the mainstream media plummeting to new Low's

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Speaker 1: and later in the.

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Speaker 3: Hour we'll look at which Hollywood A listers are caught

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Speaker 3: up in the black Lively justin Baldoni, legal staush and

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Speaker 3: left is Losing. It features plenty of hate and bile

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Speaker 3: from the unhinch Left.

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Speaker 4: Mac the lightis get a reddit a Coma, the welcomer

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Speaker 4: becut the road here.

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Speaker 5: We'll check here, but they won't check out.

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Speaker 3: Let's start with the Labor candidate for the seat of Dixon.

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Speaker 3: Ally France is the radical left to selected to take

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Speaker 3: on Peter Dutton. She has run against Stutton previously and

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Speaker 3: she's active on social media and has been for years.

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Speaker 1: Let's check out some of her work.

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Speaker 3: She reposted this image on x depicting Peter Dutton as

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Speaker 3: a Nazi charming in twenty eighteen, she reposted this commentary

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Speaker 3: from John Sedka, where he says Dutton is racist, and

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Speaker 3: just two years.

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Speaker 1: Ago she posted a link to a.

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Speaker 3: Story claiming that Peter Dutton would cut the NDIS budget

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Speaker 3: to pay for nuclear submarines, labeling him a monster. Now,

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Speaker 3: the PM was asked today about all this, and he

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Speaker 3: said that Ali France is an extraordinary human.

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Speaker 6: Ailey France is an extraordinary Australian And I don't know

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Speaker 6: what your toy to like more than a decade ago

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Speaker 6: or what have you.

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Speaker 7: I have no idea.

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Speaker 6: She is an outstanding human being.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now for more on this is Institute of

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Speaker 3: Public Affairs Senior Fellow and chief Economist Adam Crichton and

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Speaker 3: Menzie's Reach Search Center Senior fellow Nick came, Adam, I'll

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Speaker 3: start with you.

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Speaker 1: That's not everything.

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Speaker 3: Back in twenty sixteen, she realposted a comment on x saying, Wow,

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Speaker 3: the Turnbull government is backing and openly racist apartheid regime

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Speaker 3: ahead of the US and New Zealand. This was in

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Speaker 3: reference to Israel. And they're an increasing number of labor

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Speaker 3: MP's and candidates, Adam, who look like they'd be quite

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Speaker 3: comfortable sitting in the Greens.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, certainly that's true.

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Speaker 7: I mean, for me, one of the salient facts from

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Speaker 7: this campaign, it's just a number of extremists in the

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Speaker 7: Labor Party who are standing four seats that they could

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Speaker 7: actually win. And there's this real strong anti Israel street

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Speaker 7: that I never thought really existed in the rank and

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Speaker 7: file of the Labor Party so much it clearly does.

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Speaker 7: It's very disappointing. But just the other point I'd make

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Speaker 7: is I somewhat agree with the Prime Minister when he says,

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Speaker 7: you know, tweets from a long time ago, we shouldn't

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Speaker 7: focus on them too much. I mean, I'm sure we've

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Speaker 7: all tweeted stupid things in the past or things that

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Speaker 7: we regret. I probably have, and I think it's one

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Speaker 7: of the that quality of people don't go into politics

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Speaker 7: as they're just terrified that there's something they've done in

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Speaker 7: the past that will struck them out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point, but Nick, we're not talking

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Speaker 3: about just a decade ago. There's a posts from just

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Speaker 3: a couple of years ago where she's calling Peter Dutton

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Speaker 3: a monster. Now we hear a lot about being divisive,

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Speaker 3: dehumanizing language that sounds like a fairly dehumanizing language in

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Speaker 3: my book.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not prepared to make excuses for this woman,

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Speaker 6: as Adam seems to be. I'm speaking as a man

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Speaker 6: of course, with an absolutely clear Facebook and Twitter record,

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Speaker 6: because I hardly use the things. But all classes people

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Speaker 6: aren't they They completely lack any originality whatsoever, outcome the same

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Speaker 6: old things, the Nazi tweets, the Hitler stuff, the racist stuff.

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Speaker 6: Does anybody actually take any of this seriously? Does it

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Speaker 6: mean anything to the ordinary voters in the seed of

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Speaker 6: Dixon who will make their decisions based on much more

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Speaker 6: grounded things like the cost of living and the cost

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Speaker 6: of fuel and everything else, and that they know Peter

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Speaker 6: Dutton and his character has been a member for that

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Speaker 6: seat for more than twenty years. I think it's all

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Speaker 6: a bit of a sideshow, except, as Adam rightly points out,

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Speaker 6: it does give us an insight into the sort of

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Speaker 6: people who are joining the Labor Party now presumably joining

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Speaker 6: Labor rather than the Greens, because they quite like the

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Speaker 6: idea that they may one day get into government, which

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Speaker 6: is not a luxury you enjoying the Greens Party, But

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Speaker 6: you know they are way way out there on the

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Speaker 6: fruit cake fringe and you can see how Albnizi has

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Speaker 6: so easily allowed the party to be dragged to an

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Speaker 6: anti Israel stance in a quite a horrible manner, probably

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Speaker 6: one of the most disastrous things that have happened under

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Speaker 3: It's happening right in his seat when you look at

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Speaker 3: his preferences. We reported last night on the Prime Minister

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Speaker 3: finding himself in a preferencing scandal, with Green's candidate Hannah

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Speaker 3: Thomas being listed as number two on the PM's how

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Speaker 3: to Vote card, despite the fact that she has blockaded

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Speaker 3: his offers, claimed Israel is guilty of genocide, and has

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Speaker 3: demanded the Prime Minister blacklists the only Jewish state and

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Speaker 3: expel its ambassador from Australia. She's held up signs like

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Speaker 3: this at pro Palestinian rallies, and The Australian reports today

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Speaker 3: that Hannah Thomas was part of a long running protest

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Speaker 3: outside Anthony alban Albanese electorate office. The protest was labeled

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Speaker 3: appalling by the Prime Minister. He said it has no

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Speaker 3: place in a democracy. Nick Anthony Albanezi refuses to change

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Speaker 3: or even explain this how to vote card he has

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Speaker 3: rewarded here a radical activist for her radical activism. It's

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Speaker 3: hard to take his claims seriously about how bad these

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Speaker 3: protests are for democracy when he's put her number two

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Speaker 3: on his ticket.

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Speaker 6: It's hard to take anything that comes out about Neal's

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Speaker 6: mouth seriously right now. But I mean his idea, his

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Speaker 6: attempt at nonchalance. You know, oh, this is nothing to

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Speaker 6: do with me. You know, I don't even know this

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Speaker 6: woman's name. I mean, do you really believe that? That's

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Speaker 6: a very unconvincing story. But he also came out yesterday

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Speaker 6: and said, well, of course, you know, I'm above preferences

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Speaker 6: because I don't need preferences to be elected. I was

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Speaker 6: elected on fifty three percent of the vote last time round,

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Speaker 6: as if preferences are for lesser human beings. But I'll

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Speaker 6: tell you what he should be careful because when he

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Speaker 6: was elected to parliament in nineteen ninety six, there were

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Speaker 6: eighty five MPs in Parliament who didn't need to go

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Speaker 6: to preferences. In the last election, there are only fifteen.

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Speaker 6: Every seat is getting unless and less safe. The electorate

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Speaker 6: is very, very volatile, and I think the voters you

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Speaker 3: Now someone who was a labor senator. They were very

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Speaker 3: proud of her before they chucked her out of the

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Speaker 3: party senator for Team payment of WA. She's been mocked

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Speaker 3: online for appearing to use AI to come up with

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Speaker 3: generate some online activity, and it seems like she's forgotten

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Speaker 3: to delete the AI prompt from the post that she

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Speaker 3: ended up sharing on x Let's have a look at

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Speaker 3: how she apparently asked AI. I don't know if it's

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Speaker 3: chat gp grock what she has used here to write

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Speaker 3: her a post that would trigger right wing nut jobs.

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Speaker 3: Here's the full tweet as it appeared. Apologies for the confusion.

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Speaker 3: Here's an example of a bait tweet to drive engagement

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Speaker 3: from right wing nut jobs.

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Speaker 1: R wnjays.

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Speaker 3: For Team of payment tied of politics, as you also

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Speaker 3: are mine. That's why I'm standing with Australia's Voice for

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Speaker 3: Climate Action, housing and real change? Are you with us?

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Speaker 3: Hashtag ospol So the whole thing went up, Adam, Is

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Speaker 3: she genuinely that clueless? Is this some sort of I

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Speaker 3: don't know, performative art. Is it some sort of a troll.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I do recall a few weeks back she

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Speaker 3: was praising the Iranian regime for its treatment of women,

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Speaker 3: So I don't know, maybe she really is just that clueless.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think this gets back to my point earlier

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Speaker 7: about the quality of people going into politics for whatever

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Speaker 7: reason and has fallen a great deal. And this is

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Speaker 7: just an extraordinary example of incompetence, and not just not

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Speaker 7: just at a personal level. For her, it's presumably, you know,

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Speaker 7: it's her Twitter account, but as a senator, she gets

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Speaker 7: four to six staff paid for by the taxpayer, all

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Speaker 7: on good money, and actually you know she probably gets

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Speaker 7: extra personal staff as well, So I don't really know

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Speaker 7: how this got through. They're obviously incompetent as well her staff.

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Speaker 7: They should be kind of watching what she's tweeting, or

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Speaker 7: at least overseas. So look, it's just a sad indictment

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Speaker 7: of the astrology is just one more.

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Speaker 3: The only smart thing that they did, her team or

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Speaker 3: herself was responsible for this was not deleting, because once

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Speaker 3: you delete, you confirm precisely what's happened.

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Speaker 1: It's an admission of guilt.

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Speaker 3: Nick, I mean, we are laughing at this we're mocking this,

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Speaker 3: but she's in the Australian Senate, just sitting in the

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Speaker 3: upper House. And you do wonder why Labor selected her

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Speaker 1: They were very.

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Speaker 3: Proud to have a young Muslim woman in a h

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Speaker 3: wearing a hi jab whether she would have been selected.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean, she seems unable even to think up a

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Speaker 6: very short insult. She has to get the computers rolling

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Speaker 6: to do one for her. I mean, it's extraordinary. It's

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Speaker 6: not I It's Shakespeare or anything, is it. You know,

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Speaker 6: it is very very low grade stuff. And it just

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Speaker 6: goes to the fact that these are not serious people whatsoever.

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Speaker 6: How they got into the Senate, Well, they got in

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Speaker 6: through preference deals, didn't they. I mean nobody but that

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Speaker 6: many Greens and Senators straight off. She just slips in

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Speaker 6: on the back of lazy preference deels from Labor and others.

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Speaker 6: And it's an absolute disgrace. I mean, you remember that

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Speaker 6: the description of the Senate as unrepresentative, swill I think

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Speaker 6: it's even even more unrepresentative than ever before.

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Speaker 3: Yes, one of poor Keating's great lines there. We do

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Speaker 3: miss some of his gems.

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Speaker 1: And now I wanted to get your.

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Speaker 3: Thoughts on this piece from Robert gob Leeson in the

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Speaker 3: Australian newspaper today on Donald Trump's tariff strategy.

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Speaker 1: He writes that today I.

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Speaker 3: Deliver controversial but underlying good news. There is an economic

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Speaker 3: justification for what Trump is doing.

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Speaker 1: He is not mad.

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Speaker 3: Behind the Trump tariffs and the country to country discussions

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Speaker 3: are serious global economic and defense issues which are rarely discussed.

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Speaker 3: As the economic burdens on America grow with global GDP

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Speaker 3: outpacing American GDP, America is finding it more difficult to

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Speaker 3: underwrite global security. The US wants its defense burden reduced

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Speaker 3: by increased expenditure from those benefiting from the American security umbrella.

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Speaker 3: This includes Australia. Nick, he is stating the absolute obvious there,

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Speaker 3: but it is obvious points that have seemed to be

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Speaker 3: lost on so many commentators. This is something Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: campaigned on, is something has spoken about for decades. It

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Speaker 3: should come as no surprise now whether you back this

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Speaker 3: or not, this is very much part of his America

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Speaker 3: First strategy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm looking forward to hearing Adam's analysis of this.

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Speaker 6: Is a much more accomplished economist than I am. But

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Speaker 6: it's seems to me that that yes something. As Robert

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Speaker 6: Cobb leaves some points out, there are many challenges to

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Speaker 6: the US economy going forward. One is to maintain its

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Speaker 6: position as the reserve currency. Fine, we understand that, but

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Speaker 3: Well, economists Stone like Tariff's Adam. But the failure is

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Speaker 7: So it will help close that gap. And if you're

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Speaker 3: this massive economic realignment. It is a medium to long

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Speaker 7: It's not been idealized.

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Speaker 7: What's going on. That's it to say different things, But look,

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Speaker 7: we do have to wait and see. As you say,

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Speaker 7: Town, and opposite has been the case.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and that has been the case for now for

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Speaker 7: They've completely I don't think they've flipped as much here yet.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, the politicians are going to be successful

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Speaker 3: Now let's go to the UK and Prime Minister Keir

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Speaker 7: And you know, veryou do.

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Speaker 3: You imagine Vladimir Putin being asked this? Can you imagine

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Speaker 7: You've just said it into silliness and just I'm really

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Speaker 7: great deal of respect in the UK and around the world.

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Speaker 7: But I must say the more broad point is when

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Speaker 7: I'm asked about the Royals on TV, I never really

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Speaker 7: know what to say, and it kind of makes you

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Speaker 7: want to be a Republican. Oh no, God, for the

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Speaker 7: I mean, I voted for the monarchy in back in

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Speaker 7: ninety nine nine, my first vote. But these stories, I'm like,

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Speaker 7: oh my god, this family about Nick.

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Speaker 3: Does it make you feel like a Republican when King

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Speaker 3: Charles or Prince Harry's names I mentioned.

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Speaker 7: Quite the opposite.

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Speaker 6: When you see the human frailties of the royal family

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Speaker 6: and the people in and around the monarch, you know,

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Speaker 6: it just shows the stability of the system that it

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Speaker 6: endures all this because it is bigger than the individuals,

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Speaker 6: and I think that and the monarch is not above

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Speaker 6: the law. So I think it's a wonderful system. It's

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Speaker 6: lasted a long time. I wish sometimes that some of

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Speaker 6: the members of the royal family would use their profile

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Speaker 6: for better and more positive purposes than this. But frankly,

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Speaker 6: as a father, I think I just find it tragic

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Speaker 6: that a relationship can break down like this and seemingly

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Speaker 6: be irrepaarable, apparently because of the foolish behavior of one person.

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Speaker 3: Yes, are you blaming this entirely on Megan Mark? Are

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Speaker 3: you because I think Prince Harry, I think escapes a

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Speaker 3: lot of the blame. This is a man who's forty

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Speaker 3: years old, who's abandoned his family, who's aired his dirty laundry,

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Speaker 3: who has just behaved appallingly. And because I don't know,

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Speaker 3: Meghan is seen as more unpleasant than he is, she

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Speaker 3: cops all the blame and he kind of scapes through.

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Speaker 6: I wasn't blaming Meghan. He is, as you say, he

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Speaker 6: is a forty year old man. He is responsible for

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Speaker 6: his own actions and if he's surely driven by his wife,

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Speaker 6: and that's a pathetic excuse.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Adam, Kricht and Nikota, thank you so much for

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Speaker 3: your time tonight. Still to Karma, Left is losing our class.

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Speaker 10: We'll look at the state of the media in the US.

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Speaker 3: We trust in the mainstream media plumbers into new Low's.

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Speaker 10: Adam Coleman joins me, next, you're.

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Speaker 3: Watching the readA Panny Show, and it's time for Left

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Speaker 3: is losing it And let's start with a particularly toxic

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Speaker 3: brand of Christianity that appears to be devoid of God

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Speaker 3: and goodness but full.

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Speaker 1: Of hate and loathing.

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Speaker 3: Here is Atlanta preacher and far left lunatic Jamal Bryant

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Speaker 3: dehumanizing half the country by calling Republicans roaches.

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Speaker 2: Roachers only start running when you turn the lights on

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Speaker 2: at long and the lights are out, They're gonna be

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Speaker 2: comfortable eating your sirih'll y'all ain't say nothing clamoring in

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Speaker 2: your cupboard. But when you turn the light on, all

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Speaker 2: the roachs gotta start moving. I came to give a warning,

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Speaker 2: Ela must The light is getting ready.

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Speaker 4: To come on, Donald Trump, the light is getting ready

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Speaker 4: to come on, shakey fast. The light is getting ready

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Speaker 4: to come on, Macca. The light is get ready to

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Speaker 4: come on. The welcome because the road jet built check gear,

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Speaker 4: but they won't check out. The lights are coming on.

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Speaker 3: Really, we need to seriously consider making asylums great again.

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Speaker 1: And in case he.

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Speaker 3: Thought this was an isolated incident, this preacher is notorious

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Speaker 3: for bile filled race faiting rants.

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Speaker 5: I feel bad for them than the White House who

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Speaker 5: are in the tap dancing for Massa. When bot tie

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Speaker 5: shinnen and grinned, laughing like nothing that funny.

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Speaker 2: I ain't a freed of the spooks that said at

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Speaker 2: the door, these runaway slaves hiding in the White House.

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Speaker 3: Talking about race obsess simpletons. Let's hear from singer John Legend.

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Speaker 1: First, he says he wants Trump to be the comforter.

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Speaker 3: In chief, like the leader of the free world is

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Speaker 3: supposed to be some sort of therapist for lefties losing it.

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Speaker 3: And then he goes into a demented die tribe about

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Speaker 3: white supremacy.

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Speaker 1: Your comforter.

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Speaker 4: You know, why do you think that.

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Speaker 11: He's latched onto diversity so much?

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Speaker 1: Oh, he's a bigot.

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Speaker 12: So it's a belief that there's a hierarchy of racial

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Speaker 12: groups and that his group is superior, genetically superior. He

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Speaker 12: believes that whenever he talks about competence and qualifications, any

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Speaker 12: white man will do for him. Look at the last

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Speaker 12: guy who was Secretary of defens He was a four

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Speaker 12: star general, supremely qualified black man. And then see who

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Speaker 12: he puts in after him. That's the level of bigotry

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Speaker 12: that he has. Any white man is better than that.

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Speaker 1: What a contemptible liar he is.

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Speaker 3: You want to know why America is divided, it's clowns

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Speaker 3: like him, and talking about clowns, it's been a while

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Speaker 3: since we heard from this dude. Dylan Mulvainey now claims

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Speaker 3: that he told his mother he was born in the

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Speaker 3: wrong body when he was just four.

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Speaker 13: Came out to my mom at age four as a

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Speaker 13: girl and what did you say? I said, I think

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Speaker 13: God made a mistake and put a boy into a

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Speaker 13: girl into a boy's body. And you know, she said,

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Speaker 13: God doesn't make mistakes. But you know a number of

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Speaker 13: years later, we made it to where we need it

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Speaker 13: to be. Now, what's shere? As journalists?

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Speaker 3: Natalie Winters well and truly puts this sin in heck

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Speaker 3: in his place when he questions whether nationally is a

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Speaker 3: real journalist.

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Speaker 12: To the people and I'm sure you see this online

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Speaker 12: every single day, who say you don't deserve to be

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Speaker 12: here because you're not a real journalist, what's your response

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Speaker 12: to them.

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Speaker 9: Well, I'm pretty sure the group of people in there aspect,

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Speaker 9: what was that four years covering for someone who was

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Speaker 9: essentially dead? And that's being charitable in my description of

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Speaker 9: him as president by the name of Joe Biden. So

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Speaker 9: to all those people who are apoplectic over having new

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Speaker 9: media voices, you guys feel and that's why we're here.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now is political commentation and author of the

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Speaker 3: new book The Children We Left Behind, Adam Bate Coleman

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Speaker 3: Adam Nashalie Winters makes an excellent point there journalists have

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Speaker 3: long the public's trust, so many journalists from the mainstream

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Speaker 3: media who were complicit in the cover up of Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden's cognitive decline.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, Natalie makes a great point that basically the media

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Speaker 14: is not representing the people. You know, what they're trying

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Speaker 14: to do in that CNN piece is basically trying to

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Speaker 14: spit on new media, trying to discredit them. They're trying

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Speaker 14: to show that the Old Guard, like the CNNs, like

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Speaker 14: the msnbcs and so on, the NBC News, they're the

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Speaker 14: ones who are deserving of having the honor of being

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Speaker 14: in the White House. But the Old Guard cares about

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Speaker 14: the Old Guard's institution more than it cares about actually

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Speaker 14: reporting what is going on and being fair with their

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Speaker 14: reporting to the American public. So what not only is

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Speaker 14: expressing is what a lot of Americans have bought for

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Speaker 14: a long time, which is why they're turning to new media,

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Speaker 14: which is why they're getting their news elsewhere instead of

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Speaker 14: turning on the television, going to the New York Times,

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Speaker 14: They're coming to alternative media. Excuse me, alternative media sources,

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Speaker 14: because it's far more honest, at least somewhat reliable.

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Speaker 3: And these alternative media sources are gaining enormous audiences. You

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Speaker 3: look at some of the numbers listening to podcasts and

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Speaker 3: others like Natalie and really you look at the MSNBC audience,

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Speaker 3: the CNN audience, they're being left behind and sticking with

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Speaker 3: the media, and why trust in the mainstream media has

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Speaker 3: plummeted to record lows. The executive producer of Sixty Minutes,

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Speaker 3: Bill Owens, has resigned. He blames the supposed loss of independence. Now,

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Speaker 3: this comes after President Trump's ten billion dollar lawsuit after

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Speaker 3: claims that Sixty Minutes grossly misedited and interview with Kamala

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Speaker 3: Harris during the election campaign at the direction of the

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Speaker 3: Harris campaign. Now, we were among the first report on

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Speaker 3: that deliberate misleading edit.

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Speaker 1: Let's just have a quick look.

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Speaker 3: This is how Kamala answered a question.

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Speaker 7: But it seems that Prime Minister Netanya who is not listening.

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Speaker 15: Well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted

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Speaker 15: in a number of movements in that region by Israel

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Speaker 15: that were very much prompted by or a result of

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Speaker 15: many things, including our advocacy.

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Speaker 11: For what needs to happen in the region.

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Speaker 3: Typical incoherent, meandering word salad with no substance there from Kamala.

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Speaker 3: But look at what sixty minutes actually put to air.

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Speaker 8: But it seems that Prime Minister Netanya who is not listening.

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Speaker 15: We are not going to stop pursuing what is necessary

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Speaker 15: for the United States to be clear about where we

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Speaker 15: stand on the need for this war to end.

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Speaker 3: Sharp, succinct, strong and really adam incredible antics there from

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Speaker 3: sixty minutes. For the executive producer to blame loss of

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Speaker 3: independence for his resignation.

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Speaker 1: It's almost comical.

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Speaker 3: They have acted as the Democrats propaganda.

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Speaker 1: M for years.

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Speaker 14: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean that's obviously with long pieces that

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Speaker 14: sixty minutes does, they have to do some editing, but

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Speaker 14: that's a massive edit that is trying to do the

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Speaker 14: best that they can, which she's not even really answering

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Speaker 14: the question. They just had it in a very coherent,

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Speaker 14: short statement, and it just covers up how grossly unprepared

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Speaker 14: she was to run for president. And to be sort

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Speaker 14: of fair to her, she only had a few months

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Speaker 14: to run. She was pushed into the spotlight to run

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Speaker 14: after Joe Biden was too senile to actually move forward.

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Speaker 14: But if they listened to the American public and stop

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Speaker 14: trying to say, well, if we are fair about the

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Speaker 14: cognitive decline of Joe Biden, it helps Trump. But that's

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Speaker 14: not what the media is there for. They're not there

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Speaker 14: to pick winners and losers. They're there to tell us

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Speaker 14: who's winning and who's losing.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Now let's check in with MSNBC. We're host Simone Sanders.

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Speaker 3: Townsend claims that black Americans will be the next to

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Speaker 3: be deported. She seems to think that black citizens are

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Speaker 3: somehow going to be part of the deportation program.

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Speaker 16: To me, that is why Kilmar Albergo Garcia's specific case,

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Speaker 16: the case of the gentleman who's a makeup artist out

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Speaker 16: of California, who was also sent to that person.

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Speaker 1: That is why the.

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Speaker 16: More the seventy five percent of the folks who have

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Speaker 16: been sent the men who have been sent there that

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Speaker 16: don't have criminal records, that is why it's so important

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Speaker 16: because if they could do it to them, if they

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Speaker 16: could snatch students off the street without any pushback or record.

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Speaker 11: They will do it to any of us.

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Speaker 16: It to be very clear, it's gonna be the people

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Speaker 16: of color and vulnerable communities.

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Speaker 11: That are next them on it.

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Speaker 5: I think that's right, and that's certainly part of why.

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Speaker 3: The African American community is so strongly behind the supporting KILMA.

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Speaker 1: We are not for this.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, because as you just said.

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Speaker 1: If they're going to whisk them away, what are.

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Speaker 7: They going to do with us?

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Speaker 1: Hey, you got Coleman.

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Speaker 3: Are you living in fear of ice knocking on your

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Speaker 3: door and deporting you despite the fact that you are

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Speaker 3: a citizen?

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Speaker 14: No, no, I'm not. And what he just said that

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Speaker 14: the black communities behind No, black leftists are behind this,

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Speaker 14: which is a very small percentage of Black Americans that

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Speaker 14: live in this country, especially the upper class types who

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Speaker 14: appear on MSNBC.

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Speaker 7: So this fear.

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Speaker 14: Mongering about Black Americans being scared, guess what when you

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Speaker 14: show Black Americans the facts about this guy being associated

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Speaker 14: with gangs, this guy which everyone acknowledges he was here legally.

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Speaker 14: Black Americans know what legal immigration has done to their jobs.

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Speaker 14: Black Americans have seen their neighborhoods being torn apart, being

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Speaker 14: split up, being segregated because of illegal immigration. So this

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Speaker 14: idea that Black Americans are behind Kilmar is foolishness. It's ridiculous. So, no,

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Speaker 14: Black Americans aren't as stupid as they're projecting us to be.

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Speaker 14: That we're hanging in fear that ice is going to

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Speaker 14: knock on our door, when the vast majority of Black

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Speaker 14: Americans have been here longer than any other demographic. So no,

666
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Speaker 14: we're not going anywhere, and we're not scared. This is

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Speaker 14: all just nonsense.

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Speaker 3: Now I've played a little of Jamal Bryant, Preacher Jamal

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Speaker 3: Bryant in left is losing it. He's a repeat offender

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Speaker 3: in that regard. He's attacked black Republicans in the past

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Speaker 3: and the most racist terms, and now this man of

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Speaker 3: God is calling Republicans.

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Speaker 11: Adam.

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Speaker 3: Tell me about this brand of Christianity and how much

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Speaker 3: influence it has amongst the black community.

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Speaker 14: Well, in certain areas, you know, he's I believe he's

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Speaker 14: based in Atlanta. In certain areas he has a lot

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Speaker 14: of influence. Unfortunately, But if you were to see the

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Speaker 14: image from that video at the podium, what is it? It's

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Speaker 14: a communist fist holding the cross right, which is blasphemous.

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Speaker 14: This is not something that should be allowed or should

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Speaker 14: be accepted. But he is part of what they call

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Speaker 14: Black liberation theology, which is essentially a firm for Black Marxism. Right,

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Speaker 14: so they uphold civil rights and all these cliche terms,

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Speaker 14: but they also talking about capitalism and the bad parts

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Speaker 14: of capitalism and all these different things. It centers black

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Speaker 14: identity in front of Christ. And I say this as

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Speaker 14: a Christian that whenever you try to serve two masters,

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Speaker 14: you're not going towards Christ, You're going towards something else.

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Speaker 14: So Jamal Bryant, he may be renowned and people love

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Speaker 14: this man, but they don't realize is that he's using

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Speaker 14: the Black American as He's basically using the image of

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Speaker 14: black Americans as a skin suit to further Marxist ideas

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Speaker 14: or Marxist like ideas. So no, I do not support

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Speaker 14: what he has to say. And especially when you have

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Speaker 14: churches getting highly involved in politics for their own personal gain,

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Speaker 14: that is not.

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Speaker 1: What they're there for.

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Speaker 14: The House of God is there to push people towards Christ,

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Speaker 14: not towards the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 3: Well said, Now, before you go, tell me about your

702
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 3: new book, The children we left behind. It's a deeply

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Speaker 3: personal work and highlights cultural issues in the West around

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Speaker 3: family separation. Have we lost our willingness to sacrifice for.

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Speaker 1: Our children at them?

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Speaker 14: I think many of us have. You know, in the

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Speaker 14: Western world we glorify individualism, and I'm a proponent of individualism,

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Speaker 14: but as long as it's healthy and it's balanced. Too

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Speaker 14: much of a good thing and become a bad thing, obviously,

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Speaker 14: But as parents were supposed to sacrifice, we're supposed to

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Speaker 14: sacrifice for our children. The problem that I'm seeing is

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Speaker 14: that our obsession with individualism intersects with our need to

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Speaker 14: sacrifice for our children, and so parents get to act

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Speaker 14: like children, be whimsical, do whatever they want to do,

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Speaker 14: drag their kids along, and as they're dragging their kids,

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Speaker 14: they expect their children to respond like adults. And that's

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Speaker 14: not how things are supposed to work. So, yes, the

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Speaker 14: book is a culture critique about the selfishness of parents,

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Speaker 14: but it's also to talk about my story as a

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Speaker 14: child who was left behind by my father and what

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Speaker 14: I had to deal with, suicidal ideation, depression, being admitted

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Speaker 14: into a mental health hospital, homelessness, poverty, all these different things,

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Speaker 14: all stemmed from endly separation, not having him there, having

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Speaker 14: my mother struggled to take care of two kids. So

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Speaker 14: these are real circumstances that a lot of Americans and

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Speaker 14: actually throughout the Western world especially are facing.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely this sounds like a fascinating work. The children were

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Speaker 3: left behind, Adam Big Coleman, thank you so much for

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Speaker 3: your time tonight.

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Speaker 1: Thank you still to come.

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Speaker 10: Well.

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Speaker 3: Look at which Hollywood A listers are caught up in

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Speaker 3: the Blake Lively Justin Valdoni legal staff. Kinsey Schofield is

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Speaker 3: up next Welcome back joining me now celebrity and royal

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Speaker 3: commentator Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey A sources revealed in The Daily

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Speaker 3: Mouth that Blake Lively's buddies Taylor Swift and Hugh Jackman

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Speaker 3: will definitely be served this week with subpoenas for the

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Speaker 3: actress's legal fight with her It ends with US CO

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Speaker 3: star Justin Baldoni. This legal battle is got an a

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Speaker 3: list cast.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: I would file this under what a nightmare for Blake

743
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Speaker 17: Lively and Ryan Reynolds because what it tells other people

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Speaker 17: is that if they associate closely with them, they could

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Speaker 17: end up in this kind of uncomfortable situation as well,

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Speaker 17: So there were reports circulating that all was well with

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Speaker 17: Blake Lively and Taylor Swift. Now I'm starting to believe

748
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Speaker 17: that those were likely started by Blake Lively and not true,

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Speaker 17: because this is the last place these celebrities want to be.

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Speaker 17: This is the last you know, kind of chaotic court

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Speaker 17: case that they want to be involved in.

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Speaker 3: It has been so damaging for this once golden couple,

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Speaker 3: Black Lively, Ryan Reynolds, they really were they it couple,

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Speaker 3: and now they've both just become subjects of mockery. Can

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Speaker 3: they recover from this once this case is done and dusted,

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Speaker 3: Can they I don't know, rebuild their image, have some

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Speaker 3: sort of a project where they redeem themselves because it's

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Speaker 3: hard to see how that's going to happen right now.

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Speaker 11: Well, they think they can, because you're seeing it. They're relentless.

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Speaker 11: The fact that.

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Speaker 17: Blake Lively, in the middle of being one of the

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Speaker 17: world's biggest villains, manages to land on the Time one

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Speaker 17: hundred's Most Influential list, you know, that's strategy that's pr

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Speaker 17: working behind the scenes overtime. So they think they can

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Speaker 17: and they're certainly trying to recover. But I don't think

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Speaker 17: I think it would take years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Time magazine really just did that as

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Speaker 3: almost a troll, as just a way of getting some

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Speaker 3: attention and getting some discussion around their list, because really,

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Speaker 3: who cares about their list these days? Now, let's talk

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Speaker 3: about Barack and Michelle Obama. They've been facing all sorts

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Speaker 3: of rumors around divorce and problems in their relationship. Well,

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Speaker 3: they've been spotted on a dinner date in Washington, DC,

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Speaker 3: the first time they've been seen together in public in

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Speaker 3: more than four months. And this comes as Michelle finally

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Speaker 3: revealed why she didn't attend Donald Trump's inauguration with her husband.

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Speaker 3: She claims that her absence was an example for young

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Speaker 3: women out there to start practicing different strategies for saying no,

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Speaker 3: I mean okay, kidsy. She also wasn't there for Jimmy

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Speaker 3: Carter's funeral. Was that also a message to young women

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Speaker 3: to start practicing different strategies to say no?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, The song's more like an attempt for Michelle Obama

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Speaker 17: to rewrite history, similar to Megan Mircle's podcast Not Enough

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Speaker 17: Interest or Reach for Michelle to change this pre existing

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Speaker 17: perception with her podcast What We witnessed in Michelle not

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Speaker 17: attending President Trump's inauguration wasn't a unique act of bravery

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Speaker 17: or a new strategy. It was a pity party. She

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Speaker 17: didn't get her way. Try to get your melt down

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Speaker 17: a deeper meaning.

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Speaker 3: Now, Justin Bieber's disturbing antics at Coachella have fueled concerns

791
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Speaker 3: over his mental health. One of his longtime friends, Ryan Good,

792
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 3: has told Haamsey that he now believes the singer is

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Speaker 3: in a cult. Kinsey, We're seeing all this footage of

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Speaker 3: him where he seems to be over refreshed, affected by something.

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Speaker 1: Should fans be concerned? He certainly doesn't look healthy.

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Speaker 11: I don't think he looks healthy either.

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Speaker 17: I mean, I'm going to continue to put a significant

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Speaker 17: amount of blame on his parents. Week two of Coachella,

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Speaker 17: Justin's father ah how much fun he was having week

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Speaker 17: one online and met him there with Justin's fifteen year

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Speaker 17: old half brother to play. Justin was seen smoking a

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Speaker 17: huge joint next to his little brother. His father seems

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Speaker 17: totally irresponsible. He also runs an Instagram account for Justin's

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Speaker 17: six year old little sister, where he posts cheerleading and

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Speaker 17: bikini photos of her and an analysis of this little

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Speaker 17: Girl's Instagram account estimated that twenty percent of her followers

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Speaker 17: are accounts registered as male, almost entirely between the ages

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Speaker 17: of eighteen and thirty four. Jeremy Bieber, It's time to

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Speaker 17: grow up and protect your children.

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Speaker 1: That is disturbing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, why would you be sharing content like that

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Speaker 3: of a six year old child? That is, and what

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Speaker 3: they did with Bieber just basically handing him over to

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Speaker 3: music industry figures very jubious ones like p Diddy and

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Speaker 3: I think we're gonna hear a litt more Kinz about

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Speaker 3: what Justin Bieber suffered during those years when he was underage.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the royals.

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Speaker 3: Prince Harry and Meghan Markel have been spotted riding around

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Speaker 3: the Big Apple with a four car motiicade, including two.

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Speaker 1: Unmarked police cars.

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Speaker 3: This is just weeks after the Duchess was slammed for

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Speaker 3: being over the top with security, Kinsey, Do they think

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Speaker 3: they're heads of state? Why do they need a four

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Speaker 3: car motiicade?

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Speaker 11: Clearly, Prince Airian Meghan Michael's.

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Speaker 17: Obsession with status isn't impressing anyone. A real influence doesn't

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Speaker 17: need a spotlight or a four car motorcade. They spend

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Speaker 17: so much time trying to look important. I wonder if

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Speaker 17: they ever stop to actually contribute to something legitimately important.

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Speaker 17: What new charity initiatives reader have Prince Harry joined since

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Speaker 17: stepping down as a working royal.

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Speaker 11: No new charities.

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Speaker 17: I haven't heard Meghan Markel mention arch World Charity one

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Speaker 17: in the last two months. We just see them getting

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Speaker 17: cut off from charities. So I would say, start doing

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Speaker 17: good and maybe people will respond to you differently.

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Speaker 3: Now, speaking at the time one hundredth Summit, Meghan admitted

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Speaker 3: that she's made mistakes.

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Speaker 1: She said that.

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Speaker 3: While releasing three products at the same time, she decided

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Speaker 3: to give herself the space and grace to make mistakes,

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Speaker 3: as she knows she's not going to get it right

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Speaker 3: every single day. Oh god, could she'd be more insufferable, Kinsey.

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Speaker 17: No one cares about Megan's packaging or terrible taste in

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Speaker 17: brand names. You know, she keeps pretending she hasn't done

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Speaker 17: anything wrong, making the last few years of Prince Philip's

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Speaker 17: and Queen Elizabeth's lives a living hell. Her silence on

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Speaker 17: such cruelty speaks volumes, and while she may not take responsibility.

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Speaker 17: The consequences have found her anyway. People don't like her,

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Speaker 17: so she can, you know, try to act humble and

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Speaker 17: try to act like she's you know, taking some responsibility

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Speaker 17: with quote unquote mistakes. Acknowledge the hurt you cause to

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Speaker 17: the British royal family.

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Speaker 3: George Clooney keeps making headlines and this is a strange one.

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Speaker 3: Has given Donald Trump some rare praise. He commended the

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Speaker 3: President's charisma, but at the same time he predicted that

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Speaker 3: Trump will go away while discussing the future of the jet.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why we keep listening to this clown

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00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 3: because he has got everything wrong in the past decade.

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Speaker 3: He even had to go at Meghan Kelly recently, and

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Speaker 3: I would say that's very unwise indeed, because she'll head back,

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Speaker 3: and she'll head back hard.

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Speaker 17: I think that that hair day is doing something to

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Speaker 17: the brain cells.

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Speaker 11: But file under wish for thinking.

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Speaker 17: I imagine that you'll agree with me when I say

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Speaker 17: Trump might go away, but the MAGA movement is here

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Speaker 17: to stay. Donald Trump has completely transformed the Republican Party

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Speaker 17: and his legacy will be hard to shake.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: And if they're worried about Donald Trump, wait till they

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Speaker 3: get a hold of JD. Vans because he's Trump plus

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Speaker 3: twenty percent and that might have just eight years of

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Speaker 3: a vance presidency to deal with before you go quickly

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Speaker 3: or a massive country star. The a lot of Australians

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Speaker 3: won't know him unless their country fans Jelly roll. The

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Speaker 3: Tennessee Board of Parole on Tuesday recommended a pardon for him.

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Speaker 1: What's the latest on his case?

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Speaker 3: Because he's had an incredible rise from prison to now

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Speaker 3: being an absolute darling of the music industry.

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Speaker 11: Well due to his criminal record.

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Speaker 17: Every time he travels it takes a team of lawyers

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Speaker 17: in a mountain of paper work to secure his entry

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Speaker 17: into different countries.

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Speaker 11: So this decision could really change his life.

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Speaker 17: He has said that this is incredible. He called the

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Speaker 17: Board's decision you know, amazing and said I pray this

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Speaker 17: goes through. But today is special for me regardless, because

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Speaker 17: we have seen his life transformed and I think that

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Speaker 17: he should be able to go out and tell the world.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely KINSI scophil, thank you for your time and that's

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Speaker 3: it from me.

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Speaker 1: Up next is Newsnight.

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Speaker 3: I'll see you tomorrow night for ift, he's losing it

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Speaker 3: at nine