WEBVTT - Sharri | 23 April 0:00:01.480 --> 0:00:05.479 Why On Sky News This is Sharry. 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:08.240 Good Evening tonight. 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:14.160 Albanese's duplicity exposed as he preferences an Israel hating radical 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:18.000 despite claiming he wouldn't do deals with the Greens. I 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:20.680 have more to say on his hypocrisy in a moment. 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:24.280 And a man wearing a Make America Great Again hat 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:28.520 has allegedly been assaulted outside of polling booth in Albanese's 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:31.960 own electorate. The man in his eighties is tonight in 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:35.120 a hospital in a serious condition, and a seventeen year 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:39.199 old has been arrested. That full story coming up a 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:44.000 Notit reveals Albanese's urgent care clinics aren't open until ten pm, 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:47.680 seven days a week, as he promised, Yet he's running 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:52.080 a scare campaign against the Coalition on Health and so 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:55.240 Fielsworth joins us from the Vatican as the Pope's body 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:58.760 lies in state. Will bring you that moving footage a 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:03.040 bit later. Another Big Show tonight with James Patterson, Michael Kroger, 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:07.360 Graham Richardson, Andrew Caswell and James willis so much ahead. 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:12.920 But first tonight, Anthony Albanezi has misled voters overclaims he 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:15.920 wouldn't be doing deals with the Greens as the Prime 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:21.039 Minister is caught out preferencing an Israel hating radical in 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:24.760 his own seat. The Greens candidate in Albanezie seat of 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:30.760 Graindler Hannah Thomas, describes herself as an immigrant lawyer, writer 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:38.000 and activist currently renting on stolen, unseeded Gadagal land in Newtown, 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:43.360 and she's complained about experiencing visa uncertainty when she came 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:47.040 to Australia in two thousand and nine as an international student. 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:51.160 The Daily Telegraph reports she became a citizen a couple 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:55.520 of years ago and she's lucky to now call Australia 0:01:55.600 --> 0:02:01.200 home as we all are. Yet, since October seven, Hannah 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:05.000 has joined the rallies against Israel with their despicable and 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:09.680 offensive chants and signs. Her anti Israel views are on 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:14.480 full display, and here she is casually accusing Israel of 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:17.640 genocide in Gaza. 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:20.160 We've just been outdoor knocking in Merrickville and it is 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:23.280 crystal clear that Palestine is absolutely on the minds of 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:26.680 people here. They are totally disappointed for the Albanesi government's 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:27.560 complicity in the. 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:30.280 Genocide, and they're planning to send him a message at 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:31.000 the ballot box. 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:34.040 Like so many in our Inner West community, I'm absolutely 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:37.400 horrified by Israel's genocide in Gaza, which has resumed with 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:40.480 increased ferocity since Israel broke the ceasefire. 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:41.920 Now, there are very few. 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:45.359 People on this planet who individually have any power to 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:48.480 do anything to restrain the Israeli war machine. But the 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:52.160 member for Grainload, the Prime Minister, is one of these people. 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:54.799 He could sanction Israel, he could act on. 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:57.959 The ICJ ruling, he could expel the Israeli ambassador. 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:03.880 Israel war machine genocide calls, as you heard there, to 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:08.560 sanction Israel and expel the Israeli ambassador. And by the way, 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:12.920 here's my good friend, Emir Maimon. In actual fact, the 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:18.040 only genocide that's taken place is when Her Musk deliberately 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:24.560 massacred innocent Israeli citizens on October seven. Israel since then 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:28.600 has simply tried to eliminate the terrorists and bring. 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:30.080 Home its hostages. 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:33.440 The war could have ended at any point had Her 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:39.240 Musk surrendered and freed the hostages. Yet I haven't heard 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:43.120 Hannah or any of the Greens running at any point 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:48.280 speak about the barbaric slaughter of innocent Israelis on October seven, 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:53.480 all call for Hamas to return the innocent hostages. So 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:57.920 this is the Greens candidate, Alban Easy is asking voters 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:00.840 to preference after they vote for him. 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:04.240 She's number two on is how to Vote Kart. 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:09.320 It's utterly outrageous, and yet the Prime Minister claims he 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:12.600 has no idea who he's giving his preferences to, and 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:17.240 he even attacked the Australian newspaper for daring to ask 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:17.960 him about it. 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:20.680 I wouldn't have been able to tell you if you'd 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.920 have asked me who the candidate was last time man 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:26.640 in this seat. I want on primaries. I want on 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:30.239 primary That's why the system works. I don't intend to 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:37.160 promote the name or the candidate of the Greene Party candidate, 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:42.440 and I'm surprised that the Australia determined to promote them. 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:48.320 Seriously, turning that legitimate public interest question into a criticism 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:53.279 of the Australian is unbecoming, and his answer that he 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.760 knows nothing about it is unbelievable. 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:57.600 It defies credibility. 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:02.839 Now, Alban Easy is heavy involved in the particulars of politics. 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:07.680 He's got very little interest in actual policy that is 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:10.080 to do with the future direction of our nation. But 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:15.240 he's obsessed with party politics and he would categorically, one 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:19.560 hundred percent absolutely know who he's giving his preferences to. 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:25.559 He can't legitimately feign ignorance. Remember this is the man 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:30.919 who strongly criticized the Greens for spreading misinformation on Israel's 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:34.280 war against Himus, and he claimed that the Greens messaging 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:36.960 was dangerous and inflammatory. 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:44.120 Did they seek they seek in a divisive way to 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:48.040 raise these issues in order to in order to then 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:53.000 weaponize them, weaponize them and cause division in the Australian community. 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:55.680 Yep, he was right when he said that. 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.159 And he's also claimed he wouldn't be negotiating with the 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:02.799 Greens or doing preference deals with the Radical Party. 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:06.960 He even made this commitment just last night. 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:10.440 The Labor Party will fall over themselves to do a 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:11.520 deal with the Greens. 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.360 It's just it's just you preference. 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:18.880 The untruth put forward put forward by Peter. 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:21.520 It's not an untruth. 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:24.760 So he's trying to distance himself from the Greens, but 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:29.359 at the same time he's directing his constituents to vote 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:33.080 for them after putting him as number one. His words 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:38.320 just last night are disingenuous. How can anyone believe him 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.560 that he won't buddy up and co govern with the 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:44.559 Greens in the case of a hung parliament, which is likely. 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:49.560 The Executive Council of Australian Jury co chief Alex Rivchin 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:54.120 told The Australian that he found Albanezi's second vote preference 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:59.040 of this Green candidate. He said it was profoundly disturbing. 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.080 He said, when the prime minister approves any sort of 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:04.560 deal with such a party and tells voters in his 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:08.359 seat to put the candidate second, it tells the country 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.800 that the Greens are legitimate and one can do deals 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:16.240 with political extremists, and that is what they are. And 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:20.000 rich And said Alberzi should be excoriating them for libeling 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:24.800 the Jewish community, not uplifting and rewarding them. And Alex 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:30.600 as usual is absolutely correct. But Albanesi isn't the only 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:32.640 Labor minister doing these. 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:34.160 Preference deals with the Greens. 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:38.360 The Australian reports that almost every other member of the 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:42.680 Albanese ministry with publicly disclosed how to vote cards, from 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:46.400 Jim Chalmers and Richard Miles down to assistant ministers and 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:50.760 special envoys have also directed voters to give the Greens 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:55.640 then number two preferences, and as you know by now, 0:07:55.760 --> 0:08:00.320 this includes the Attorney General Mark Dreyfus, who is the 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:03.800 most senior Jewish member of the government, in fact of 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:07.400 the Parliament. It's a massive betrayal that he is directing 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:13.240 Australians to give Greens their preferences over the coalition And 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:16.960 when he was asked about it by the journalist Zoey Deaconing, 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:22.080 he couldn't even defend his truly indefensible decision. 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:25.240 Why are you second. 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:39.360 Party? And yes, what are your thoughts on Josh and Australia. 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:44.360 A comptable to that decision to preference themselves to keep giving. 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:48.000 You the answer, that's the matter for the party. That's 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:49.040 the matter for the party. 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:53.880 Isn't he embarrassed that he's supposedly a brilliant, highly educated, 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:58.000 smart lawyer but he can't even face voters to explain 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:03.080 why his preference seeing the anti Semitic Greens, and he 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:07.520 wonders why he gets booed and heckled by the Jewish community. 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:12.640 Now you compare Dreyfus to Josh Burns, another Labor MP, 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:17.040 but one who had the integrity and courage to stand 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.960 up to Albanesi and the Labor Party and insists that 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:23.520 he wouldn't be preferencing the Greens and he may lose 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:24.439 his seat by the. 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:25.840 Way to the Greens. 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:28.520 And when I wanted to speak to Josh Burns about 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:32.800 this on air, the Labor Party made him cancel his 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:37.400 appearance and Albanizi also blocked him from taking questions at 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:50.440 a press conference. Yep, this is a duplicitous prime minister 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:53.800 who knows just how dangerous the Greens are. He said 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:57.400 so publicly, yet he's happy to do deals with the 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:01.760 Rancid Party for political expedience seat. And you can bet 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:06.240 that despite insisting he won't govern alongside Adam Bant, he'll 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:09.960 do exactly that in order to stay in power, to 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:14.439 stay prime minister. This is exactly what Julia Gillar did 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:17.920 when there was a hung parliament in twenty ten. Now 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:22.920 Johannesley captured this sentiment perfectly in his cartoon where he 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:28.160 has Albn Easy shopping in spotlight beside Adam Bant, who 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:33.520 says we're looking for the Drapery department please, As they say, 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:38.000 Band is already measuring the curtains in the lodge, and 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:41.800 Australians know that this is true because Band has made 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:46.360 it plainly clear that his demands include recognition of a 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:51.240 state of Palestine and scrapping negative gearing and capital gains 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.240 tax in the case. 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:56.839 Of a hung parliament. And Penny Wang would be only. 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:59.560 Too happy to make Bant's wishes come true when it 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:03.959 comes to recognition. And I'm already hearing that she's considering 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:08.920 a greater diplomatic presence, perhaps even a formal Australian consulate 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:14.320 in the Palestinian territories. And this would be the radical 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:18.720 green left government that you can expect if Albanizi. 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:20.360 Wins A week on Saturday. 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:27.720 Now, in shocking news tonight, a man in his eighties 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:31.160 is in serious condition after an alleged assault outside a 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:35.520 polling booth in Albanese's electorate. He is now in hospital 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:39.880 receiving treatment. The man was reportedly wearing a Make America 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:43.000 Great Again hat a Trump hat when he was allegedly 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:48.520 hit after a supposed argument about defacing a core flute. 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:52.320 A seventeen year old man has been arrested at the scene, 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:55.280 and he's now said to be assisting police with the investigation. 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:58.640 He is the latest from Channel nine. 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:01.880 A man in his eighties wearing a Make America Great 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:06.240 Again hat, walked over to an Anthony Albanezi poster and 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:09.040 then he allegedly went to deface it. One of the 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:11.920 volunteers approached him asked him not to do that. An 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:15.199 altercation broke out. Now at this point, a seventeen year 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:17.720 old boy was crossing the sea the street. He saw 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:21.199 this and thought the man was being aggressive towards the woman. 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:24.280 He allegedly struck the eighty year old, who fell to 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:26.760 the ground. He was then taken to hospital in a 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:27.600 serious condition. 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:31.960 Now that's one version of events. We don't know what 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:36.640 really happened, but it's unconscionable to think that we have 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:41.400 violence outside our polling stations where an eighty year old 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:45.840 is tonight in hospital. We are a free democracy in 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:49.560 one of the luckiest and safest countries on earth. No 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:52.520 one should go to a polling booth feeling any sense 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:57.480 of intimidation or fear for their own personal safety, let 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:02.040 alone an elderly man who were led to believe supports 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:06.839 Donald Trump. Now we hope he recovers fully and can 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:12.760 tell police exactly what went down. All right, James Patterson 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.200 is coming up in a moment, but for now, let's 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:18.959 bring in my favorite Wednesday panel, former Victorian Liberal Party 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:22.440 president Michael Kroger and labor legend Graham Richardson. 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:24.079 Welcome to you both. 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:27.640 Look, I want to start with Albinize's duplicity when it 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:31.120 comes to preference deals with the Greens. Michael, what's your 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:35.000 response to this and also the Prime Minister's evasion of 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:37.760 questions that are in the public interest. 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:44.400 So Charie, this candidate of the Greens in his own seat, 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:48.640 who is preference number two? He says it's the party's 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.679 decision and he didn't know the candidate was. That's absolutely rubbish. 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:54.200 I mean, every member knows who's running against them, for 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:57.440 goodness sake. So let's put that aside. But here's the 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:03.720 real problem that Green's can Hannah has accused the Prime 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:07.960 Minister and the government of being complicit in genocide. She 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:11.880 has said of Albanezi, you are complicit in mass murder. 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:16.560 So he's either dismissing her as a non serious person 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:20.160 and that's a non serious comment. And the Greens are 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:23.200 just rat bags, so we don't take any notice of 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:27.840 their comments or he thinks it's okay if she accuses 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:30.840 me of being complicit in mass murder. I mean, what 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:35.280 she said of him is grossly defamatory, grossly defamatory, and 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:41.320 he'd win millions and a defamation case, subject limits. But 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:44.400 it shows you how extreme the labor part he's got 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.440 when he's prepared to preference her, When Mark Dravis, when 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:50.760 all of the other things you've talked about, and what 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:53.200 he'll realize in ten or fifteen or twenty years time 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:55.120 is this he'll work out in twenty years time, when 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.080 he's in his dotage like some of us are now, 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:01.760 when he's sitting on his porch, he'll realize that the 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:05.600 Greens were a much bigger threat to the Labor Party 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.920 in twenty twenty five in the years that followed than 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:11.840 the Liberal Party ever was. These people are going to 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:13.440 do a lot more damage to labor than we could 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:17.120 ever do to labor. They're eating the Labor Party from inside, 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:20.400 and the fact that labor has to so desperately cling 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:23.800 onto these extremists tells you everything about modern labor. 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:25.440 Rich. 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:27.760 I want to get your response to what Michael Kroger 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:30.320 has just said. Do you think the Greens are an 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:34.920 existential threat to labor and the values that labor once 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:35.400 stood for. 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:41.240 Now, I think they can engage in the odd bit 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:48.160 of rat baggery, they can make films of themselves, but 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:52.680 they are part of Austratia's body politic. They are a 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:54.920 genuine part of it, you know. And you can't get 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:58.320 ten percent of the vote election after election after election 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:04.280 and just be disregarded. You have got a piece of reaction, 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:07.360 shall we say, And it's a piece that they have 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:13.680 maintained and retained election after election. In my view of 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:18.440 the Greens has always been the success of good points 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:21.440 about it. When they talk about trees, when they get 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:23.600 off trees, that's when they get off. 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:26.200 They haven't been on trees for a long time now, 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:27.360 for many years now, and I. 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:30.320 Think voters still it is true, yes, and many. 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.880 Voters are still under the misapprehension that the Greens is 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:34.040 an environmental party. 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:36.840 They don't care about the environment anymore. In fact, you know, 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:37.560 they often. 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:41.360 Want to kill off the koalas we hear tonight and 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:44.000 other news. But Rich, I just want to stick with 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:46.600 you for a minute. I hear that Labor Circles joke 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:49.560 that Albin Eazy is yep, he's the Prime Minister, but 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:52.520 he's also the Assistant General Secretary of the New South 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:56.880 Wales ALP, because he's so involved and obsessed with the 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.840 minutia of New South Wales Labor candidates. 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:03.520 Is this true, Rich, I mean, it's not believable. 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:06.639 Like Michael said that he doesn't know Labours giving preferences 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.359 to the Greens or who the candidate is in his seat. 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:13.919 Now, that isn't believable. I'm not going to defend that. 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:18.120 There's no credibility in saying that. Of course he knows. 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:23.400 I think albow ort to just look at the Greens, 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:30.040 speak about them honestly, and maybe not completely honestly, but 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:34.720 as honest as possible. Look, they can come up with 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:40.160 some good policies, but unfortunately they've been taken over by 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:42.760 a whole lot of people that couldn't give a rats 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:47.159 about trees and who have much more radical views of 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:50.119 the world. And it's a sad thing for me to 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:52.800 have watched that over the course of the last couple 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:56.239 of decades. The Greens are not what they were and 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:57.480 they never will be again. 0:17:58.400 --> 0:17:59.480 Yeah, that is sad. 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.960 Indeed, Michael, let's talk about the campaign. We've got ten 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:07.600 days to go. The national polls are looking very dire 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:12.320 for the coalition, but internal liberal polling paints another picture. 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:16.720 Dutton has said that publicly yesterday, what's your sense of 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:18.359 where the campaign's at at the moment. 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:21.600 Well, it's no doubt the. 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:23.320 Labor have had the best of the first three weeks 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:27.760 of the campaign, which was largely built on their historic 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:32.440 brand equity in social policy to it in this case medicare. 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:34.399 And I must say I was delighted to see the 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:36.880 Shadow Minister for Health and rust and give a blistering 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:40.520 attack make a blistering attack on Alban Easy today by 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:43.600 saying he's just a political vulture preying on the sick 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:45.760 and the infirmed and the elderly, which is exactly one 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:48.080 hundred percent right now. Wish someone had said that months ago, 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:51.639 because their whole campaign is to scare older people and 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:54.679 sick people and elderly people into thinking that somehow their 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:58.400 Medicare cards going to be taken away from them. If 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:01.920 Peter Dutton wins, Nane rustin for attacking him. And this 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:05.160 is a campaign based on deception and by the way, 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:07.199 you know, we see the deception with the use of 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:11.280 the Medicare signed behind Albanesi in the Medicare card. These 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:14.360 are these are trademarks owned by the Commonwealth. I don't 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:16.399 know why Albany. I don't know why the head of 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:18.320 I don't know why the head of Medicare hasn't run 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:20.920 the federal ALP campaign director and said, can you stop 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:25.880 using the Medicare signed behind Albanesi these press conferences. Otherwise 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.800 I will seek an injunction against the ALP and Albanesi 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:33.320 for misusing our trademarks. So Albanize has got away with 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:35.640 blue murders. It's one of the many things he's done 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:40.280 during this campaign which is just just dishonest, and you 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:41.440 know he should be called out for it. 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:45.679 Well, on that point, Duttan last night accused Albanesi of 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:49.600 constantly lying, saying great line that he couldn't lie straight 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:49.960 in bed. 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:52.280 Have a look, we'll be honest. 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:58.800 Health, each b and education, every population is increasing. 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:02.240 For minister, you couldn't straight in bed. Honestly, this is unbelievable. 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:03.320 It can go to abuse. 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:05.720 Well, it's just the reality. 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:07.000 Here, Ritchel. 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:09.120 It was a good line cut through, got a lot 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:13.320 of media attention. But it's true, isn't it. 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:17.399 It's not true. All say to that is Albow is 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:22.159 a politician. Politicians stretch the truth and they do it 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:22.920 every day. 0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:24.680 Both sides do it. 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:28.480 They stretch it as far as they possibly can, and 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:30.160 you're not going to stop that. 0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:35.720 Alba lies this campaign, Rich, I have been egregious, as 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:38.720 Michael just said, standing in front of that Medicare sign, 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:41.520 claiming that Dartan was going to cut medica. 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:44.040 It's not going to cut medicare. You've got to admit that. 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:48.479 No. I think I already just said to you. I 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:51.360 think we've gone a little bit over the top. But 0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:55.879 that happens in politics. This is not, you know, kissing 0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:59.120 in the ring. This is a pretty tough game, and 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:05.000 it tough. Now. Look, I think I think Elbow probably 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:08.480 would regret some of the words he's used in this, 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:13.760 But by the same token, it still seems to be 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:14.399 going okay. 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:14.639 To me. 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:17.920 I don't think there'll be any radical change in what happens. 0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:22.000 I'd still think that labor will hold government and in 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:25.200 my view, will hold it alone. We won't need Teals 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:26.080 or anybody else. 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:29.600 What do you think about that prediction, Mike, or do 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:32.399 you think Albin easy perhaps through all of these scare 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:36.440 campaigns and lies will hold government without I mean rich 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:40.399 is saying majority government there if he doesn't need the Teals. 0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:42.119 Or anyone else. What do you reckon about that prediction. 0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:47.000 Well, I've always doubted that because for such a long 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:50.399 time people thought the government was so poor and they 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:53.040 reverted to labor and the recent poles. The reasons I explained, 0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:55.320 but I think people really think they want the next 0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:57.000 three years to be like the last three. I think 0:21:57.000 --> 0:22:00.239 the majority of people won't want that because he been 0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:02.399 such a poor Prime Minison has been such a poor government, 0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:05.920 So I don't think that'll happen, but you know it, 0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:08.520 can he get there with the Greens, which would be 0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:11.440 his first port of calls since he's in a love 0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:15.679 wrestle with them, He could well do that, or with 0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:18.760 a sprinkling of some of the Teals. That can happen 0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:20.840 if he gets to you know, if you get to 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:23.560 seventy seats, if Labour get to seventy seats, then there 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:25.840 are chants with the Greens and the Teals to cobble 0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:28.480 together seventy sixts. So that's on the last lot of 0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:31.199 polling that's possible. Although I'm hopeful that a lot of 0:22:31.240 --> 0:22:33.560 this increase in the labor vote is in labour seats 0:22:33.560 --> 0:22:35.959 where there were very heavy swings away from them in 0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:39.040 safe seats at the last election, particularly in Victoria. Their 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:42.280 primary route dropped four percent and huge numbers in safe 0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:44.320 labor seats. So if those numbers have come back to labor, 0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:46.200 in other words, if it's labor talking to their base, 0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:48.439 which a lot of their campaign is, the result much 0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:49.880 to be much closer than people think. 0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:54.119 Well, as I'm going to ask James Patterson about in 0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:57.280 a moment, there certainly is this disconnect between the published 0:22:57.359 --> 0:23:01.600 national polls and the internal research that that the Liberals 0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:04.119 are getting all right, rich O, Michael Kroger, Great to 0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:08.120 see you both as always. Now, the Coalition announced its 0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:12.439 defense policy today, two days out from ANZAC Day. Dutton 0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:16.639 and Shadow Defense Minister Andrew Hasty pledged an extra twenty 0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:20.000 one billion dollars. This would take defense spending to two 0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:24.480 point five percent of GDP by twenty thirty now. Darton 0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:28.400 said that we can't achieve peace through weakness. 0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:31.919 In Australia, Labour parties were eighty billion dollars out of 0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:34.119 defense at a time. They tell us that we should 0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:37.639 be trying to bolster our defenses, and you don't achieve 0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:40.119 peace through weakness. And the trouble at the moment is 0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:41.720 that we've got a weak prime minister, which is why 0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:43.080 we've had bad economic policy. 0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:47.439 And Andrew Hasty made the point that Australia can't just 0:23:47.520 --> 0:23:49.480 rely on America forever. 0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:52.960 This is a big, big announcement and it sends a 0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:55.160 signal to the world as well that we are serious 0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:57.960 about defense. We can't take anything for granted anymore. 0:23:57.960 --> 0:23:58.880 If there's a. 0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:00.600 Lesson out of Ukraine, it's that you've got to be 0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:02.359 able to stand up on your own two feet, at 0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:04.840