1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: On scorn wilds Oscodia. This is the Wider Panalty Show. 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Patty Show. Coming 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: up tonight. I speak to the father whose world was 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: turned upside down when he is then fifteen year old 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: son was almost killed after being struck by the Andrews 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: family suv. The Prime Minister reafirms his support for truth 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: telling and treaty despite the failure of the voice. Josh 8 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 2: Hammer will join me from the US, where Joe Biden's 9 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 2: intersectional base is breaking apart with black and Hispanic voters 10 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: flocking to Trump, and of course plenty of left is 11 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 2: losing it. 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 3: Where is the only country where it's legal to be 13 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 3: gay in the Middle East? Palty Asia, Do you know 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 3: it's Israel? 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 4: I don't consider it a country. 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 5: I've got a. 17 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: Palestine joining me now is Harold's Sons Senior columnist Patrick Carline. Patrick, 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: Let's start in Victoria. The Herald's Sons are revealed that 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: nine thousand Victorians have been the victims of aggravated burglaries 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 2: in the past ten years. That's one in every seventy 21 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: five Victorian homes. Incredible figure. Bayside area has been hit 22 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: hard we've seen burglaries up six hundred and seventy three 23 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: percent from ten years ago. Two hundred and one incidents 24 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: reported last year. A lot of this growth is due 25 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: to youth criminals. We've one police source telling The Herald's 26 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: son that the parents for most of these children is 27 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: the state of Victorian. That is a reoccurring problem, isn't it. 28 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: The Herald Son again reported a youth offender who had 29 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: hundreds of offenses. 30 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 6: Wiped off the books. 31 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: It's just an incredible number for such a young kid, 32 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: and you just wonder what his future is going to be. 33 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 6: But people are scared. 34 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: People are scared in their own homes, and they're getting 35 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: increasingly upset by some of the advice they're getting about 36 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: how to deal with this crisis. Things like putting a 37 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: tracking device in your car so when it's stolen, we 38 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: can track it down a little bit easier. 39 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: Yes, well that's the problem, isn't it. 40 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 7: I mean we're being told the official advice is surrender. 41 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 7: If they come to your castle, they come to your 42 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 7: home at two am, surrender on the spot. And Rebecca Judd, 43 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 7: the influencer, was going on we got it right the 44 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 7: other day. She talked about Melbourne being woke, broke and violence, 45 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 7: and there is a really palpable fear. If you leave 46 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,839 Speaker 7: your car in the driveway, are you going to wake 47 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 7: up at two am to kids marauding through your house 48 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 7: demanding your keys as a revolving door. They get caught. 49 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 7: It sounds like the police are very good in turning 50 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 7: up quickly. They arrest some of them, they get bail, 51 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 7: and then they do it again. And this is getting worse. 52 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 7: I mean, these numbers vindicate that fear that so many 53 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 7: men Burnie is a feeling at the most. 54 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: And I remember when Beck Judd first brought this up, 55 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 2: particularly in the base Side area, backlash from the Victorian government. 56 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: Dad Andrews was Premier at the time, and he kind 57 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: of mocked her and said her figures were completely wrong 58 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: and the official stats don't back that up. The official 59 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: stats did back that, Hud, but he's gone and just 60 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: into Alan seems to be even less interested in this. 61 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: I mean, she would know that it's going to have 62 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: an impact at the polls, but the polls are a 63 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 2: long way away. 64 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 7: Absolutely now. I think she should be very mindful of that. 65 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 7: I mean, people are very sort of cynical. If you 66 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 7: like about this bail policy, and you keep reading these 67 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 7: stories where kids are given bail and you haven't judged, 68 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 7: So I'll give you another chance. 69 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: This is chance number nine or number ten. 70 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 7: Then they go and t bonakar at an intersection in 71 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 7: the stolen car, or they're in a police chase or whatever. 72 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 7: They're danger in the community. 73 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: It really does. These are the sorts of. 74 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 7: Things you might expect in Johannesburg or the South Side 75 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 7: or Chicago or something. 76 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 1: This is Melbourne. 77 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: Well, that was what was interesting when the police gave 78 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: that advice about put a was it the Apple device 79 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: that air tracker in your car so we can find it? 80 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: And I think there was other advice about leaving the 81 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: keys by the front door so if they come in, 82 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: they don't have to find you. They can just grab 83 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: the keys and grab your car. It's the sort of 84 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 2: advice crime riddled Californian cities were given to their residents. 85 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 2: So we're not expecting to hear that in Melbourne. Now 86 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: let's talk about Anthony Albanezi's while he's saying is open 87 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: to a macaratea commission, in other words, a treaty and 88 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: the whole truth telling process. We saw him on election 89 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,239 Speaker 2: night promise to implement the Ullarys Statement from the Heart 90 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: in full and that does include treaty and truth telling. 91 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: But given that the Voice failed, and failed pretty comprehensively, Patrick, 92 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: you would think you would listen to the will of 93 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: the Australian people Because sixty one percent of them are 94 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: against the Voice. I would guess more than eighty percent 95 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: would be against an treaty process. So why is it 96 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 2: even entertaining it contemplating? It is really beyond me? Is 97 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: it determined to be a one term PM? 98 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 7: It seems like it doesn't. I think I've said to 99 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 7: you before. I went up to Cape York about a 100 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 7: month before the Voice. I spoke to people in remote 101 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 7: communities and they were seeing all about the Voice. They said, 102 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 7: this is big city nonsense. Basically, there is no appetite 103 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 7: for treaties at the moment, and I think there's a 104 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 7: lot of suspicion. 105 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: What's a treaty about. Is it about actually truth telling. 106 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 7: As it's called, or is it about activism and of 107 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 7: reparations down the track? What does a treaty actually lead to? 108 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 7: And people are sick of thinking about it. I think 109 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 7: people care a lot more about practical outcomes. There've been 110 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 7: no improvements across the board in indigenous sort of health 111 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 7: or employment or education for twenty years. People want to 112 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 7: see that get better. They're not that interested in sort 113 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 7: of going back. 114 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 2: We keep seeing successive governments listening almost exclusively to the 115 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 2: activist class, and I think that's a large part of 116 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 2: the problem. 117 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 6: The very people whose advices. 118 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: Let us here are the ones who are still setting 119 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 2: the agenda. Now, let's talk about South Coast residents in 120 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 2: New South Wales staging a rally to oppose the government's 121 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: offshort wind farm plans. National leader David littlproud told the 122 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: crowd a coalition government would dump the Illwarra project and 123 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: will look for other energy options. He said the coalition 124 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:37,799 Speaker 2: isn't against renewables, but renewables should be an environment, should 125 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: be in an environment they can't destroy. 126 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 6: That is a good point. 127 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: The Daily Telegraph ran a poll on this issue. Eighty 128 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: nine percent of their readers are against this project. Patrick, 129 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: but the government is pressing ahead with so many of 130 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: these large scale renewable projects and they do seem to 131 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: destroy the natural environments, certainly esthetically. These soul of farms, 132 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: wind farms and the concerns of local residents seem to 133 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: be disregarded very easily. 134 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 7: It sounds like there's been very little consultation in a 135 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 7: lot of these cases. And I mean, you've got New 136 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 7: South Wales, you've got Southwest Victoria, and you've got CFA 137 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 7: units in Victoria today coming out and saying we're not 138 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 7: going to put out fires on renewable projects unless lies 139 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 7: are endangered, because we don't want these projects. 140 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: These are bad for our communities. 141 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 7: And it sounds like there's a real disconnect between the 142 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 7: ideology of the renewables push and those poor people on 143 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 7: the ground who actually have to live with the consequences 144 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 7: of transmission lines and those sorts of things. 145 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: It sounds like it's been badly handled. 146 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 7: I think we'll see more and more of these kind 147 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 7: of protests as time goes on. 148 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 2: I hope that there is some movement because these projects 149 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: are happening and if you travel in the countryside, and 150 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: a lot of Australians really never leave the big cities 151 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: where they live, they would see this and they would 152 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: see the impact it's having on just beautiful parts of 153 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: the country being really visually destroyed. And god knows what 154 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: those solar farms are doing to the actual farmable land. Now, 155 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 2: Skynese host and former Chinese prisoner Chung Lay was body 156 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: blocked at a China Australia press event by Chinese officials. 157 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 6: Let's have a look. 158 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 8: Here. 159 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 9: You can see an Australian official asking the Chinese media 160 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 9: staffer to move from blocking the journalist. The woman in 161 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 9: the brown coat and the man in the blue blazer 162 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 9: are both standing between Miss Chung and the cameras who 163 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 9: are about to film the premiere of China and Anthony Albanezi. 164 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 4: Walking in together. 165 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 9: You can see Australian officials repeatedly trying to get them 166 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 9: to move, and when missus Chung switches seats so that 167 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 9: she's on the other side, the Chinese officials again try 168 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 9: to block her view from the cameras. You can see 169 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 9: an Australian staffer in the light coat blocking the two 170 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 9: Chines news officials from getting near Miss Chung. This was 171 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 9: all during remarks that were due to be made by 172 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 9: the Prime Minister and Chinese premiere. You can see here 173 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 9: Miss Chung is very amused by the whole thing, and 174 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 9: the ministers are in the background signing documents. 175 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 2: Now, the Prime Minister said the matter had been formally 176 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: followed up with a Chinese embassy to express Australia's concern 177 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 2: at las treatment, calling it clumsy. I would have used 178 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: stronger language, Patrick than clum z. 179 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 7: I don't think clumsy is the right word. Maybe deliberate 180 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 7: or insistent. We're on astrand soil here. How can this 181 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 7: not possibly be condemned in the strongest terms From the 182 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 7: moment it happened, it was all over the news yesterday, 183 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 7: It hijacked the biggest story of constructive relations and everything. 184 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 7: The Prime Minister needed to come out and condemn it 185 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 7: on the spot, it looked very flat footed. I think 186 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 7: it took him till this morning on radio to actually 187 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 7: sort of deal with the question properly, and even there 188 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 7: he used fairly flimsy language to try and make the point. 189 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: They seem to be terrified of offending China, where we 190 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: are scared of any sort of economic coercion, any punishment 191 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: they're going to. 192 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 6: Meet out, but we can't have that. 193 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 2: It's not bad enough that they locked up this poor 194 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: woman for three years and just the most horrific of circumstances. 195 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: The conditions she endured were stuff of nightmares. And then 196 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: to do this here the nerve of it is beyond belief. Now, 197 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: the US state of Kansas is suing pharmaceutical giant Pisa 198 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: for misleading the public on their COVID nineteen vaccine. The 199 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: say claims Fiser made false statements about its vaccines effectiveness 200 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 2: and hid its risks, including safety related to pregnant women 201 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 2: and heart problems. Here is Kansas Attorney General Chris Kobak. 202 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 10: However, as Spiser knew, the United States government, the United 203 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 10: States military, foreign governments, and others had found that Weser's 204 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 10: COVID nineteen vaccine casmiocarditis and pericarditis number three effectiveness regarding variants. 205 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 10: Weiser also claimed that it's COVID nineteen vaccine protected against 206 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 10: COVID nineteen variants, even though data available at the time 207 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 10: should Weser's vaccine was effective less than half the time 208 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 10: against variants. Finally, transmission, Piser urged Americans to get vaccinated 209 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 10: in order to protect their loved ones, clearly indicating a 210 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 10: claim that p Weiser's COVID nineteen vaccination stopped transmission of 211 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 10: COVID nineteen. Peiser later admitted that it had never even 212 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 10: studied transmission. 213 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: Interesting indeed, and I'm sure there are many in Australia 214 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 2: who have COVID vaccine injuries who will be watching this 215 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 2: case Patrick carefully, but they don't have too many options 216 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: if they're in Australia because these big pharmaceutical giants have 217 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 2: effectively got immunity. 218 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 7: Look, I think Kansas is just the beginning of this story. 219 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 7: There's going to be other states that are going to 220 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 7: take very similar action, and it'll be fascinating to see 221 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 7: how it all plays out. I know you've been very 222 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 7: strong on that transmission question all the way through because 223 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 7: it did sound like being vaccinated would protect you from 224 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 7: spreading it. 225 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 6: Well, that's what vaccines typically do. 226 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 2: They stop you getting it and spreading it. And there 227 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: are some who say that even just calling this a 228 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 2: vaccine has been counterproductive because we're now seeing less trust 229 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: in vaccines than we should be seeing, because people are 230 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: associating with the COVID vaccines when you know most vaccines 231 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 2: are far more effective and stopping infection and transmission. 232 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 7: Well, it all happened very quickly, didn't it, And at 233 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 7: the time the world was applauding that science. 234 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: Could come up with these vaccines. 235 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 7: So readily, Whereas you know, ordinarily things take years and 236 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 7: years and years and all sorts of checks and balances 237 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 7: before they're approved. This all happened very quickly, and I 238 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 7: think we're seeing the consequences for that man. 239 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: And I think one of the things we've got to 240 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: consider in this country, in this state in particular, is 241 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 2: the pressure to get young kids healthy, young kids who 242 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: are at the lowest risk from COVID vaccinated, because I 243 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: remember we were running stories about kids having to change 244 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: clothes on the sidewalk because they couldn't enter clothing shops 245 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: to try on clothes because they didn't have been double vax. 246 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 2: And we're talking about fourteen year old kids. So it's 247 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: almost like we've memory hold that episode for. 248 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 7: All we close playgrounds. I think we've got haircuts on 249 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 7: the street. At one point in Melbourne. 250 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 2: Well, we banned IVF treatments, and I think Victorians and 251 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 2: I think Australians at large, have forgotten so much of 252 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: that because so many signed up to the insanity wholeheartedly. 253 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 7: We've banned common sense, and we banned joy and we 254 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 7: did it for about two years. 255 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: And fish we shouldn't forget it, and fishing and fish 256 00:13:58,679 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: in Victoria. 257 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: You could fish elsewhere, Patrick Carline, thank you for your time. 258 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: Thanks for now. 259 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 2: Former Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews is fighting a court order 260 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 2: to submit phone records from the day his family is 261 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: Ford suv collided with a teenage cyclist who were seriously 262 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: injured on impact. The fifteen year old bike rider, Ryan Mullerman, 263 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: was riding on the morning in Peninsula when he was 264 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: struck on January seven, twenty thirteen. He's sustained serious injuries, 265 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: including a punctured lung, broken ribs, internal bleeding, and lost 266 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: ninety percent of his spleen. Dan Andrews's wife, Catherine was 267 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: behind the will at the time. Dan Andrews has engaged 268 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: high profile loyal Leon Swire and labeled the subpoena requiring 269 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: him to produce phone records from that day a phishing expedition. 270 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: We did reach out to Dan Andrews' media contact for 271 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: response and. 272 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 6: Have not received a reply. 273 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: We are happy to put their version of events to 274 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 2: airt any time if they respond to our request. Ryan's father, 275 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: Peter joins me, now, tell me about what you hope. 276 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 6: To achieve with this legal action. 277 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 8: We're hoping to get justice for Ryan from this. It's 278 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 8: just been such a long road for us, so we'd 279 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 8: really like to get closure on the case and if 280 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 8: we can get some honesty, some transparency, and some justice 281 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 8: for him. 282 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 6: It's been more than a decade. 283 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 2: We'll talk about how this has impacted your son and 284 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: your family, but first, speaking on behalf of the dissenter, 285 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: Alan government Minister Lily Dia Ambrosio has said that this 286 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 2: matter has already been thoroughly investigated. 287 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 11: This matter has been thoroughly investigated and has been concluded, 288 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 11: and there's nothing more to be added to this. I'm 289 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 11: not going to get into court matters, but what I 290 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 11: can say to everybody is that whenever this pops up 291 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 11: every now and then, the matter has been thoroughly investigated 292 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 11: by all relevant authorities and there's nothing more to be 293 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 11: added to it, and I won't be adding any more 294 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 11: comments to it. 295 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 6: What's your response to that. 296 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 8: Well, we don't feel that it's been thoroughly investigated. There's 297 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 8: been a lot of new evidence come to light just 298 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 8: recently the Triple O call for one, and we don't 299 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 8: believe that it was thoroughly investigated. Back at the time, 300 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 8: there was no breathalyzer done on either of the occupants 301 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 8: of the car. Daniel Andrews removed the car from the 302 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 8: crash scene, so removed that evidence from the scene. 303 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: He says that he did that to drive the kids 304 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: home because the kids, his kids in the car were 305 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: alarmed by the accident, so just to give his side. 306 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, you're right, because we did have doctor Raymond Shwey, 307 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: who's the state's former Assistant Commissioner for Traffic and Operations. 308 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: He looked into this accident and said that Victoria Police, 309 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 2: the investigation they did, had twelve critical standards that were failed. 310 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 2: The standard operating procedures were not followed in at least 311 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: a dozen instances. Have you had an explanation from Victoria 312 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 2: Police for why they didn't do those sort of things 313 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: you mentioned the breathalysers, there's a number of other things 314 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: they didn't do properly. Is Have they been forthcoming and 315 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 2: explained their failures there? 316 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 8: No, we've had no correspondence from vic Pole at all, 317 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 8: and so that raises further suspicion. I guess if they 318 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 8: felt that they'd done their job entirely, they would have 319 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 8: come to us and said, well, we looked at it 320 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 8: this way and that way and that way, but none 321 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 8: of that happened. We've been really kept out of the loop, 322 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 8: and I think that they just wanted to close it 323 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 8: from their end, probably to protect a political career. But 324 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 8: our lawyers and our research team have uncovered a lot 325 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 8: of things. As I said, the breath Eliza, the removal 326 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 8: of the car. Yes, he took the children home, and 327 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 8: I'm aware that they would have been alarmed, but those 328 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 8: children are also witnesses to that accident, which is a 329 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 8: crucial piece of evidence as well. 330 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: Now, as I mentioned earlier, the premiere is the former premier, 331 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 2: Dan Andrews is fighting the court order to submit his 332 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 2: phone records from that night. What is your message, Jim, 333 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 2: if you could speak to him directly, if he's watching, 334 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: what is your message to Dan Andrews. 335 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 8: If you've got nothing to hide, you'd be transparent about 336 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 8: all of those records. But if you've got something to hide, 337 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 8: then you're going to fight to disclose those records. 338 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 2: But he says it's a fishing expedition, so we're not 339 00:18:54,240 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 2: casting any doubt on his reasons for that. But you've 340 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 2: made the point that given his standing in the community, 341 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 2: the fact that he's just been honored with the country's 342 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 2: highest honor, an ac Do you feel like he should 343 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 2: be forthcoming and provide those records just to make this 344 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 2: matter not drag out even longer in the courts. 345 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, I feel that he should bring those records forwards. Again, 346 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,959 Speaker 8: you know, if we've got nothing to hide and to 347 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 8: say that it's still a fishing expedition, it's a legal case, 348 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 8: which is far from. 349 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: A fishing expedition. 350 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 8: So we just want that clarity and that closure and 351 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 8: that justice. 352 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 2: Now, how has Ryan's life been impacted with this crash? 353 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 2: And we spoke earlier about his terrible injuries, but it's 354 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 2: been a critical juncture in his young life, isn't it 355 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 2: at the age of fifteen to undergo something like that. 356 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, the injuries that he sustained were terrible, but you 357 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 8: do recover from those physical injuries. It's probably been the 358 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 8: mental injuries that he has sustained from that. He was 359 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 8: incredibly traumatized from that accident. But further to compound that, 360 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 8: he was warned that if he spoke about that incident 361 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 8: that he would be in trouble by the police. 362 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 6: So there's a phis he gave him that warning. 363 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: I think it was. 364 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 8: Either the lawyers or it might have been Vic Police himself. 365 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 8: I'm really not too sure, but if you're a fifteen 366 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 8: year old boy, that would ske you to death. So 367 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 8: he really feels like he's been shut down and silenced 368 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 8: since that twenty thirteen accident. 369 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: Now you're asking the public to support your case. It 370 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: is an expensive exercise, we know, any sort of legal action. 371 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: And you've set up a go fund Me page. 372 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 8: Yeah, we have set up a go fund Me page. 373 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 8: This is a really expensive legal exercise. We're a humble 374 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 8: fan from humble means and we want to fight this case. 375 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 8: You know, we want to get justice for Ryan. I'm 376 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 8: sure the Andrews camp thinks. I'm sure that they can 377 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 8: outspend us, and I'm sure that they think that once 378 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 8: they've outspent us that we just simply go away and 379 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 8: it all gets washed under the rug yet again, so 380 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 8: really reaching out to those people that want to support 381 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 8: our case with that go fund me page. 382 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, we've got the page up. 383 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 2: So if people want to back your son and his 384 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 2: fight to find out precisely what happened on that night, 385 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 2: you can do that. Peter Mullman, thank you so much 386 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: for your time. This evening, I really do appreciate you 387 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: speaking with me. Still to come a bumper edition of 388 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 2: Left He's Losing It, and Josh Hammer joins me with 389 00:21:48,800 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 2: the latest from the US. It's time for Left is 390 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: losing it and we love nothing more than hearing intersectional 391 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 2: race baiting and political grandstanding from sports broadcasters. 392 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 6: And Stephen A. Smith delivers the goods here. 393 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 2: Apparently all the accolades that Caitlin Clark is receiving is 394 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 2: because she's white, and the jealous players who are attacking 395 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 2: her are really the real victims here. 396 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 12: She is a white young lady, and she's been a 397 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 12: magnet in a way that has benefited the league in 398 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 12: ways that others have not. No matter how far we 399 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 12: believe that we have advanced as a society, there's still. 400 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: Such a long way to go. Because in the end. 401 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 12: If you're white, you're bright, you're right, and as a result, 402 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 12: the shine comes your way in the eyes of a 403 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 12: lot of people in America. 404 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 2: Oh, the idiocy did not end there. Apparently make America 405 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 2: Great again is synonymous with make America white again. 406 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 12: You have somebody that's a presidential candidate, What is his 407 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 12: claim to feed make America great again, what have people 408 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 12: interpreted that to me make America white again? 409 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 2: Well, that must be newsed to the majority of Hispanic 410 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 2: voters who now back Trump instead of the Democrats. It 411 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 2: must be newsed also to the growing number of black 412 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: voters who are abandoning the Democrats to embrace the MAGA message. 413 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 2: I'll be speaking to Josh Hammer about that very shortly. 414 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 6: Now, we love a good vox pop on this program. 415 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 2: Let's see what the young folk at a DC pro 416 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 2: Palestinian rally are thinking. Surely even this lot will not 417 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 2: make excuses for rape, torture, and slaughter of innocent Israelis 418 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 2: on October seven. 419 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 13: Can you guys tell me a little bit about your 420 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 13: goal here today? 421 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 14: As queer people, we have a duty to show up 422 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 14: here and stand in solidarity with all of the other 423 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 14: marginalized communities. 424 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 6: All this kind of started October seventh. 425 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 13: So what do you have to say about October seventh 426 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 13: and the actions of Hamas. I think definitely the protests 427 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 13: started October seventh, but like this issue did not start 428 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 13: October seventh. 429 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 4: I guess Ostber seventh, they like did something they came 430 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 4: out of like trying to like fight back, you know, 431 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,719 Speaker 4: because you know they've been oppressed for so many years. 432 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 3: Hamas is the reaction is not a problem. Hamas is 433 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 3: the result of the situation. 434 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 5: No other young people out there. 435 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 13: Should they come out and protest and share this work 436 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 13: for Homas? 437 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 6: I think they should. 438 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 13: And your sign says from the river to the sea, 439 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 13: Palestine will be free. 440 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 441 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 13: Can you tell me which river and which sea we're. 442 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 4: Talking about here? 443 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 13: This is a a You've caught me on the spot, 444 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 13: and I'm really horrible when I asked some questions not true, 445 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 13: but basically the river and the sea that border both 446 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 13: sides of Palestine where Israel is right now? 447 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 5: Dear? 448 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 2: And here are more college kids who are frightfully stupid. 449 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 4: Did you guys see that? 450 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 3: Al Kaya just thank you guys. They thanked all the 451 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 3: college protesters and everything Houthis has BLA. 452 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 14: I make you happy, Uh. 453 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 4: Huh, yeah, of course we're supported. 454 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: It makes you feel like there's actually some kind of 455 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 3: home for one hundred buck who was the terrorist group 456 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 3: behind nine to eleven No food al Qaida? 457 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 14: Well you think that nine to eleven. 458 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 5: Had some justification? 459 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 4: Good in some ways? 460 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 3: Can you guys find God's on a map? 461 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 4: I think we need a better moth. 462 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 9: You can't find it. Who is the number one sponsor 463 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 9: of global terrorists in America and the US New York, 464 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 9: New York's Estate. 465 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 2: That's Zach Say, who does great work exposing these lefties 466 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 2: losing it. 467 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 3: Where is slavery legal in the Middle East? 468 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 4: Israel, you know, and Yemen the Huthi's brought it back. 469 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 4: Oh my god, wow, what a houi. 470 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 3: Where is the only country where it's legal to be 471 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 3: gay in the Middle East? 472 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 4: I would say, Asia, Do you know? It's Israel. I 473 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 4: don't consider it the country. I would go to Palestine 474 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 4: if you went to Palace and you'd be thrown off 475 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 4: of a building. 476 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 14: All of these like the gayest city on Earth. 477 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 4: I doubt it's the gayest city on it. It's really gay, 478 00:25:59,640 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 4: you know what? 479 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 3: The number one slogan the Iranian government chances death to America. 480 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 4: Honestly, like, I'm kind of not really. 481 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 2: Now to California, the bluest of blue states, where the 482 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: La City Council is taking down a no U turn 483 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 2: sign in the name of equity, tolerance and inclusion. 484 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 5: What La City Council members? 485 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 2: You go? 486 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 15: Sodo Martinez and Nythia Rahman were on hand today to 487 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 15: help remove the signs. They say the no cruising and 488 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 15: no U Turn signs were put up in the nineteen 489 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 15: nineties to prevent people in the gay community from meeting 490 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 15: up with other gay people. 491 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 14: I was also surprised that these U turn signs were 492 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 14: still up. And at first, you know, they seem a 493 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 14: little oh okay, it's just a no U turn sign. 494 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 14: But when you learn the history of it and you 495 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 14: realize that these were used to profile gay people. 496 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 2: Really, these activists are almost beyond parody. The descent into 497 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 2: a full blown leftist lunacy is pretty much complete. And 498 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 2: I think it's time to check in on the Leader 499 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: of the Free World again. Another incoherent rant here he 500 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: has a little mini melt down. Watch him completely mix 501 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 2: up a well known expression as he casually threatens Israel. 502 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: And I know you're a typical press guy. 503 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 6: You're grabbing me in front of this on and said 504 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 6: to trust you. 505 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 12: As far as I throw your phone, I can add 506 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 12: a good. 507 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 6: Arm, haven't you. 508 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: I'm going to throw this away. But my point is this, 509 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: I have made. 510 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 16: Very clear to the Israelis that they have to do 511 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 16: in the New Turn. 512 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 1: If they don't, what's gonna happen was going to come off. 513 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 2: Across the West, we continue to see anti Israeli, anti 514 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: West protesters run riot. They're even harassing their fellow lefties 515 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 2: in the lefty heartland of Washington, DC. 516 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 17: People who eat at Tati, the most basic is rarely 517 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 17: establishment in DC. Here we have some mediocre white people 518 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 17: to start the day off. 519 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 4: More mediocre white people. 520 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: More mediocre white people. Thank you for the smiles. 521 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 18: They're there, a. 522 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 17: Chubby, mediocre white man. 523 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: Hike. 524 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 17: Excuse me, man, Can we ask you your stance on Palestine? 525 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 17: Any stance, ma'am? No stance, No stances, no, just what 526 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 17: do you have for brunch? Some chuk shuka? Some Palestinian 527 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 17: chuk shuka? Hey, by leakyaknva you guys, wire gonna give 528 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 17: you a pass, but next time, please skip Tata. It's 529 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 17: owned by devilish white people. 530 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 2: Joining me now is Newsweek Senior editor at Large and 531 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: Article three Projects Senior Council Josh Hammer. 532 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 5: Josh. 533 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 2: We've seen these protesters take over university campuses. They have 534 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 2: these illegal encampments there. We've seen them cause enormous damage 535 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 2: to property and open threatened people. We've even seen acts 536 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: of violence. And yet as you have written in the 537 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 2: New York Post. Where are the consequences? Why are Blue 538 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 2: cities in particular turning a blind eye to this lawlessness? 539 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 3: You know, Rita, It is certainly not for lack of 540 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: available options. There are any number of options that federal 541 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 3: prosecutors have. I mean, there is the ku Klux Klanak 542 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 3: going back to eighteen seventy one, which is passing the 543 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 3: aftermath of the American Civil War, which basically bans people 544 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 3: from a mass conspiracy, especially if you go in disguise, 545 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 3: if you wear masks, like a lot of these protesters 546 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 3: have been doing, you are forbidden from doing that and masks, 547 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 3: so as to deprive your fellow American citizens of their 548 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 3: constitutional rights. There is a civil analog to that. There was, 549 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 3: of course material support for terrorism, which is a federal 550 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 3: criminal offense. But the point is that whether at a 551 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 3: federal level or at a local level, when it comes 552 00:29:55,200 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 3: to lower level local crimes such as harassment, intimidation, a 553 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 3: lot of this stuff on the street, you know, you 554 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 3: don't have a free speech right Riata in our country. 555 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 3: You don't have a first Memen free speech right to 556 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 3: intimidate and to harass people. You have a free speech 557 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 3: right to make your opinions known on the issues of 558 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 3: the day. You don't have a right to get into 559 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 3: someone's face and to say that you want them to die, 560 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 3: that you want to call for genocide. This was the 561 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 3: error that the Harvard president made, of course, in the 562 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 3: infamous December twenty twenty three congressional testimony that led to 563 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 3: her resignation. But the points here, and this is what 564 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 3: I wrote about for the New York Posts. Whether it's 565 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 3: the federal level, whether it's the local level, or anywhere else, 566 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 3: there was a very very simple and straightforward reason the 567 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,719 Speaker 3: prosecutors and law enforcement in general are not bringing these charges, 568 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 3: which is that one, they probably largely at least left 569 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 3: wing jurisdictions, agree with the underlying conduct. Two, as we 570 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 3: saw in the twenty twenty Antifa Black Lives Matter riots, 571 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 3: and as we've seen again since October seven, these are 572 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 3: very violent people. Read, these are violent people who take 573 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 3: no prisoners. These prosecutors and cops don't want to be 574 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 3: on these miscreants bad side any more than anyone else 575 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 3: wants to be. So they agree with the Wolk orthodoxy, 576 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 3: and they don't want to get themselves hurt. What that 577 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 3: creates obviously is a toxic, toxic stew America is currently 578 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 3: failing its Jews, and by extension, is not merely just 579 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 3: feeling its Jews, is feeling us off. 580 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 5: Absolutely. 581 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 2: And we've got this two tier policing, this two tier 582 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 2: justice system, where if you were out there protesting from 583 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 2: some right wing cause, you would have the authorities come 584 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 2: down on you like a ton of bricks. But if 585 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 2: they agree with you viewpoint, you can get up to 586 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 2: the mischief we've seen, and the calling it mischief is 587 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 2: really underplaying it, because sometimes it is just violent intimidation 588 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 2: and nothing else. Now, even a broken clock is right 589 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 2: twice a day. And so I was interested in this 590 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 2: analysis from CNN on the historic levels of support the 591 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 2: Republicans are getting from black folk under Trump. They are 592 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 2: perplex the f I at CNN, but they acknowledge this 593 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 2: is a seismic shift. 594 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 18: And more than that, it's not just that Joe Biden 595 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 18: is losing ground, it's that Donald Trump is gaining ground. 596 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 18: You go from seven percent single digits at this point 597 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 18: in twenty twenty to now twenty one percent. And again, John, 598 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 18: I keep looking for signs that this is going to 599 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 18: go back to normal, and I don't see it yet 600 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 18: in the polling of anything. Right now, we're careening towards 601 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 18: a historic performance for Republican presidential candidate, the likes of 602 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 18: which we have not seen in six decades. Look at 603 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 18: black voters under the age of fifty. Holy cow, folks, 604 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 18: Holy cal Look at this. Joe Biden was up by 605 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 18: eighty points among this group back at this point in 606 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 18: twenty twenty. Look at where that margin haskreem down towards 607 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 18: it's now just get this, thirty seven points. That lead 608 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 18: has dropped by more than half. Mister Berman Home, I 609 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 18: just never seen anything like this. I'm like speechless because 610 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 18: you always look at history and you go, okay, this 611 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 18: is a historic moment. If this polling is anywhere near correct, 612 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 18: we are looking at an historic moment right now. We're 613 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 18: Black voters under the age of fifty, which have historically 614 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 18: been such a big part of the Democratic coalition, are 615 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 18: leaving it in droves. 616 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 2: Josha Donald Trump has launched his Black Voter Coalition group. 617 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 2: His campaign is saying historic rates of black voters are 618 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 2: now behind the Republican candidate. 619 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 6: And if those CNN figures. 620 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 2: Are accurate, what's that going to mean for the Democrats 621 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 2: going forward. They have just relied on getting ninety percent 622 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 2: plus of the black vote for decades. 623 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 5: Now. 624 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Red, I'm trying not to leugh too 625 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 3: hard over here because Harry Enton is the CNN d 626 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 3: and analyst that we just saw. I've actually known Harry 627 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 3: since he and I were both eighteen years old. He 628 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 3: and I go way back. He's probably the only straight 629 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 3: shooter at CNN. He is not a far left liberal guy. 630 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 3: He calls it like he sees it. But Harry knows 631 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 3: his audience and he knows of the CNN audience is 632 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 3: a liberal audience. So he's just trying to do what 633 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 3: any good television broadcasters should do, which is just trying 634 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 3: to be very honest with your audience. And here honesty 635 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 3: means that Joe Biden's intersectional coalition is falling apart. Black 636 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 3: voters are peeling away at record pace for very simple 637 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 3: bread and butter reasons. Because the economy in the United 638 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 3: States has never been good. Bidenomics they tease it out 639 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 3: like a wet BALLOONA went absolutely nowhere last year. They 640 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 3: haven't talked about Bidenomics since November. They for a little while. 641 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 3: That's all I talked about. Then they decide that they 642 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 3: couldn't bamboozol Americans into thinking the bidnominous was anything other 643 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 3: than a stink bomb, so they let it go. Inflation, 644 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 3: of course, reached nine point one percent to forty year 645 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 3: high back on the summer of twenty twenty two. The 646 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 3: economy formally entered a recession back on that same year, 647 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. So Black voters are peeling away from 648 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 3: Joe Biden for the same reason that many underrepresented minorities, 649 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 3: Hispanic voters among them, are peeling away, which is that 650 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 3: they don't like the way that the country is being 651 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 3: governed right now. And if these numbers are real, and 652 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 3: as Harry said right there on CNN, we have every 653 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 3: indication to believe that the shift actually is real, especially 654 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 3: for young black men. Young black men are now supporting 655 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 3: Trump twenty five sometimes even thirty percent in polls that 656 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 3: could easily could easily make or break the election when 657 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 3: it comes to states like Michigan, Georgia, and North Carolina Pennsylvania, 658 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 3: all of which have sizeable Black populations there. But the 659 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,399 Speaker 3: broader point to read is that the entire post two 660 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 3: thousand and eight Barack Obama Joe Biden Ara Democratic Party, 661 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,280 Speaker 3: which is built on the house of cards of intersectionalism 662 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 3: and identity politics. It's all falling apart right now. They're 663 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 3: stuff between a rock and a hard place when it 664 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 3: comes to the Middle East conflict. Obviously, they can't make 665 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 3: the error voters in Michigan happy, but then they can't 666 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 3: make the Jewish voters happy either, or the majority of 667 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 3: Americans who support Israel for the matter. So everywhere you look, 668 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 3: this whole identity politics thing is falling apart for them, 669 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 3: and you know, frankly, as a conservative, I kind of 670 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 3: love to see it. 671 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 2: And you're absolutely right about this into sectional coalition falling apart, 672 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 2: because it's not just black voters leaving the Democrats. There 673 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 2: are increasing numbers of other ethnic groups, including Hispanics, who 674 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 2: now prefer Trump to the Democrats. A number of polls 675 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,240 Speaker 2: have shown a majority of Hispanic voters backing the Republicans, 676 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 2: and a new poll shows that a majority of registered 677 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 2: voters from all backgrounds are now in favor of mass 678 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 2: deportations of illegal immigrants. According to a new yek Of poll, 679 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 2: sixty two percent want to see mass deportations, and that 680 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 2: includes josh A clear majority of Hispanic voters, and I've 681 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 2: long said that Hispanics will become part of the Republican 682 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 2: base that are typically socially conservative. They are aspirational, and 683 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 2: the Democrats have really little to offer them at the 684 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 2: moment other than victimhood and pronouns. 685 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 686 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 3: Look, I live in South Florida. I mean this is 687 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 3: kind of the epicenter of the Hispanic part of America. 688 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 3: Moving to the right, I mean Miami Day County, which 689 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 3: is the most populous county in all of Florida. You know, 690 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 3: Ron de Santis won that by double digits in his 691 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 3: group of toyal reelection. 692 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty two. 693 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 3: He won Miami Day County, which is a seventy percent 694 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,280 Speaker 3: Hispanic county. He won it by eleven points. Marco Rubio, 695 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 3: our center here in Florida, won by ten points. And 696 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 3: a lot of people look on that and they say, oh, 697 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 3: it's Miami Day County. It's just these Cubans. They're all 698 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,720 Speaker 3: conservative because they're fleeing the castros and communism. It's actually 699 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 3: not true. So in Osceola County here in Florida, which 700 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 3: is a suburb of Orlando, heavily Puerto Rican County, Puerto 701 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 3: Rican's historically a very very liberal demographic here in the 702 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 3: United States. Osciola County, Florida actually voted for Romda Santis 703 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 3: and Marco Rubio as well in twenty twenty two. You know, 704 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 3: going back to twenty twenty, even in heavily Mexicans South Texas, 705 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 3: down in the Rio Grand Valley, you had ninety to 706 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 3: ninety five percent Hispanic counties like Star County, Texas, is 707 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 3: Upota County, Texas, which some of them were actually outright 708 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 3: breaking for Trump, but then Trump was actually very narrowly 709 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 3: losing others by single digits. The broader shift is happening, 710 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 3: And like I was just talking about with black voters, 711 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 3: it's the same thing for these Hispanic voters. Reader. They 712 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 3: don't like the way the economy is doing. They want 713 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 3: their communities to be secure, They want people to be 714 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 3: able to walk the streets safely without fear of being mugs, 715 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 3: and they care about general public safety and deterring violence 716 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 3: just as much as white voters or anyone else. So 717 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 3: I am not surprised to see these data points, but 718 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 3: I certainly do hope that they are giving Democrats a 719 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 3: lot of heartburn. 720 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 2: Now to Texas and the Department of Justice is indicted. 721 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 2: A whistleblowing doctor exposed how a Texas hospital was continuing 722 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 2: to perform sex change procedes and treatments on children as 723 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,879 Speaker 2: young as eleven despite announcing that were shutting down their 724 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 2: gender clinic after Texas bans surgical procedures and prescription treatments 725 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 2: for transgender youth. Doctor Ethan Haim, a surgeon at the 726 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 2: Texas Children's Hospital, is accused of accessing and obtaining information 727 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 2: belonging to these patients without authorization, and it's convicted. He 728 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 2: faces up to ten years in federal prison and a 729 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars maximum fine. 730 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 6: Tell me about this case, Josh. 731 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 2: This seems to be a whistleblower who is being punished 732 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 2: for doing the right thing. How could he possibly expose 733 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 2: this if he didn't access that information? 734 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: Right? 735 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 3: So the DOJ is alleging that he They're saying that 736 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,720 Speaker 3: he violated HIPPA, which is a patient privacy protection statue 737 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 3: that existed in the United States for a number of 738 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 3: decades now. But the point here, Rita, is that they're 739 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,879 Speaker 3: picking the target very carefully here. You know, the very 740 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 3: nature of prosecution is that prosecutoral resources are scarce here. 741 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 3: I mean you learn this as a first year lawsuitent. 742 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 3: Going back to criminal law course, no prosecutor literally has 743 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 3: the manpower, the time, the resource, or anything in order 744 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 3: to prosecute every possible offense that comes across or her jurisdiction. 745 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 3: The fact that they are going after after this whistleblower, 746 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 3: who again audibly and nobly was blowing the whistle because 747 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 3: the Texas Children's Hospital was lying. That they were lying. 748 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 3: They said that they were cutting back on these genital 749 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 3: mutilations so called surgeries on chemical castration. They said in 750 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 3: response to pressure from Texas Attorney General Ken Pax and 751 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 3: Governor Greg Gavit. They said, in response to that that 752 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 3: they were finally shutting it down, and they lied about it. 753 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 3: That is why this whistleblower came out and said, you 754 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 3: know what, mister Governor, mister train General, they're telling you 755 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 3: one thing, they're not doing it. So the fact that 756 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 3: he's being prosecuted for doing the righteous, noble, just and 757 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 3: correct thing here on dubious statutory grounds says everything they 758 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 3: need to know about America's further further unraveling weaponization of 759 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 3: our law enforcement apparatus. 760 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 2: And I've saying that trust in the justice system at 761 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 2: historic laws in America and we know why. It's very 762 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 2: much a justified point of view. Josh Hammer, always a 763 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 2: pleasure to hear from you. 764 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 5: Still to come. 765 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 2: The Hawthorne racism saga, i'm one of the most shameful 766 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 2: episodes in Australian media. 767 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 6: So Vie Ellsworth joins me. 768 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 2: Next joining me now is media writer for The Australian. 769 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 6: Sophie Ellsworth. 770 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 2: Let's start with what is one of the most shameful 771 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 2: episodes in the Australian media and the sports media. But 772 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 2: this story went further than just the sports media, and 773 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 2: it's the way three men were defamed as racist monsters 774 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 2: after the ABC published Elaked Report, a deeply flawed report 775 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 2: into the culture at Hawthorne Football Club. Last week, former 776 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 2: Hawthorne coach Alistair Clarkson, now the coach of North Melbourne, 777 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 2: spoke about his desire for the saga to end up 778 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 2: in the Federal Court so he can finally put his 779 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 2: side of the case forward. 780 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 16: And that's what's perplexing for focus, myself and Jayson. We've 781 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 16: got to six over six hundred days later and we 782 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 16: still haven't had the opportunity either through Hawthorne, through the AFL, 783 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 16: through the AFL investigation, through the Human Rights Commission, nor 784 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 16: a court of law to actually tell our story. And 785 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 16: ironically enough, the three people were actually quite going for 786 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 16: it to go to the federal court as Fergus, myself 787 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 16: and Jas because that will provide a platform to be 788 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 16: able to tell our story. 789 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 2: This is a fascinating case. I remember writing about this, well, 790 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 2: that was it September twenty twenty two, whenever this story 791 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 2: first broke and you looked at some of the allegations, 792 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,240 Speaker 2: some of the claims that were just being accepted uncritically, 793 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 2: and the way people were condemning these men that were 794 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 2: guilty as charged was incredible because there were massive holes 795 00:42:55,200 --> 00:43:00,040 Speaker 2: in that entire report. There were huge concerns, and yet 796 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 2: the media almost uniformly ignored those to just go after 797 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 2: these three men and destroy them. And for a period 798 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 2: all three had to step down from their roles and 799 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 2: things have turned around now, but it looked like and 800 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 2: I was hearing from season Footy types predicting that Alistair 801 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 2: Clarkson Chris Fagan, coach of Brisbane, they would never coach 802 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 2: again because of how they were perceived after this story. 803 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 5: Broke a terrible situation. 804 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 19: Reata and you've written about this many times and called 805 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:31,840 Speaker 19: it out right from the beginning. 806 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 5: It was flimsy from the beginning. 807 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 19: And this is the concern with the media is sometimes 808 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 19: it's trial by media. It's guilty until you've proven innocent, 809 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 19: not the other way round. 810 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 5: And I think that was really problematic with this story. 811 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 19: And you can see when Alistair Clarkson spoke there, he's 812 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 19: obviously still very distressed by them. 813 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 2: He went out on stress leave, that's right, last year. 814 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 5: That's right. 815 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 19: So the fallout from this has been shocking and it 816 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 19: hasn't been a good reflection on the ABC, on the 817 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 19: AFL or Hawthorne Football Club. 818 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 2: In my view, No, I think there are many answers 819 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 2: for the Hawthorn Food Club, many questions for the Hawthorn 820 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 2: Bok Club to answer, and they may be facing a 821 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 2: multimillion dollar lawsuit as well, so they've got all sorts 822 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 2: of issues to contend with in the coming years off field. Now, 823 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 2: let's talk about nine and their ongoing woes. Kerie Anne 824 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 2: Kennley is the latest start to speak out about the 825 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 2: entrenched culture of the network. Has there been any response 826 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 2: from nine to what Kerie Ane Kenley told you in 827 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 2: the Australian. 828 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 19: So basically nine, you know, keeping their responses very careful 829 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 19: with all of these allegations, RITA, because we now have 830 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 19: the external review that is undergoing in the News and 831 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 19: Current Affairs Division within nine, so they are not saying 832 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 19: much other than Mike Sneezeby has come out yesterday in 833 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,799 Speaker 19: an email to all staff and said basic, we need 834 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 19: to change the culture at nine. He admits there were 835 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 19: wrongs in the past and they need to change the 836 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 19: culture in order to move forward. 837 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 5: But Nine have been very careful what they say. 838 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:16,879 Speaker 19: Because this external investigation is still afoot and could take 839 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 19: some months. But apparently from what I have been told 840 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 19: from numerous sources is that dozens of women and females, 841 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 19: both former and current staff, are making complaint Dozen. 842 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 5: That's what I've been told. 843 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 2: Well, are we going to have any clarity once this 844 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 2: review is completed about what their findings are. Is this 845 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 2: school going to be kept in house or will they 846 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 2: actually come clean because they did try to hide this. 847 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 6: It was the Australian that broke this story. 848 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 5: RITA. 849 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,280 Speaker 19: They have to well have said to staff they will 850 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 19: share the findings when it's handed down by the Advisory 851 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 19: Group Intersection, and this will have to be made public. 852 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 2: I mean this is impacted Nine. This has impacted them. 853 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 2: They've lost their chair Peter Costello. 854 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,280 Speaker 19: You know, they've had managers move, They've had Darren Wick 855 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 19: leave the business. They've had such widespread problems. Their share 856 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 19: price has fallen too, So this saga is far from over. 857 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, seven is also facing some challenges. They've also had 858 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 2: allegations of cultural issues. 859 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,439 Speaker 6: And they have a new news boss. 860 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 2: Who has hired a comedian from the ABC, Mark Humphreys, 861 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,399 Speaker 2: to refresh their news coverager. 862 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 6: I'm not sure how this is going to work. Do 863 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 6: we have. 864 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 2: Any information about how Mark Comphreys came to be hired 865 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 2: and what his role is going to be within the 866 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 2: news team. 867 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 19: So Retel, we've obviously got a new news director at 868 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:52,359 Speaker 19: Channel seven, Anthony de Segli, and he has made this 869 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 19: bold decision to insert Mark Humphreys into the six pm 870 00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 19: news bulletin in Sydney. Mark Humphrey's is obviously a comedian, 871 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 19: He's done this sort of work before, and Anthony Decegli 872 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 19: is trying to shake things up at seven. So Mark 873 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 19: Comfreys will start at the network in the coming weeks. 874 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 19: It will be on a weekly basis. This sort of 875 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 19: comedy inserted into the news. Now, I wonder how this 876 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 19: is going to work, reader, when you have a serious 877 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 19: news bulletin and suddenly trying to inject news. 878 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,360 Speaker 5: So let's see if it works. 879 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 2: Let's look at some silly reporting from the UK. 880 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:29,919 Speaker 6: You could mock this. This is easy to mock. 881 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,320 Speaker 2: The Mirror warned its readers last week of a heat 882 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 2: wave set. 883 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:35,760 Speaker 6: To hit major cities. 884 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 2: They wrote, UK to be blasted by forty eight hours. 885 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 6: Of twenty six degree heat wave. 886 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 2: I don't notice twenty six degrees a heat wave anywhere 887 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 2: in the world, but it's incredible the hardship the poems 888 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 2: have to endure for forty eight hours. But we've got 889 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,400 Speaker 2: The Guardian, on the other hand, saying that it's actually 890 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 2: quite cold in the UK. But they still need to 891 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 2: get some climate cult commentary in their saying the cool 892 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 2: start to the summer may feel more miserable than figures 893 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 2: suggest because people have come to see heat. 894 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 6: Waves as the norm. 895 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 2: Global heating means UK summers are more than a degree 896 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 2: warmer than in the seventies, but I wonder how much 897 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,320 Speaker 2: warmer they are than the I don't know, twelve hundreds, 898 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 2: thirteen hundreds, you know, the medieval warming period. So there 899 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 2: is a lot of material there to be mocked. But 900 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 2: I do wonder if Marc Comfrey's is going to touch 901 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 2: any of that. I think you'll just be watching Sky 902 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,279 Speaker 2: hoping for moments for Sky, which is wonderful promotion for us. 903 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,799 Speaker 6: So if you see this mark, please publicize. 904 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:44,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. 905 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 19: Absolutely, But Rita, I mean, really, the Brits are complaining 906 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,439 Speaker 19: about twenty three degrees celsius twenty six. 907 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,399 Speaker 5: It's twenty three, so should I say? 908 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 19: I mean, it's a heat wave and they are all 909 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 19: panicking and they need to stay indoors because it's so hot. 910 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,800 Speaker 19: I mean, you can mock these It's just too easy 911 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 19: to mock Rita. It sort of shows the fast that 912 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,920 Speaker 19: you know, when they're making headlines that's twenty six degrees 913 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,359 Speaker 19: and it's a heat wave and this is a climate emergency, 914 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 19: then you start to really question thisty you. 915 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,880 Speaker 2: See this, So it's so prevalent in the UK when 916 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 2: they're doing their weather reports on television, the heat and 917 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 2: the map is all in red in summer, like the 918 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 2: whole place is on fire, even though the temperatures are 919 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,839 Speaker 2: the same as they were a couple of years ago 920 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,840 Speaker 2: with a normal map, so it is all about those optics. 921 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 2: Sophie Lsworth, thank you so much for your time this evening. 922 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,800 Speaker 2: Thank you, Rita, and that's it from me. Up next 923 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:37,920 Speaker 2: is Newsnight.