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Speaker 1: Talking with the Premiere earlier about an hour or so ago,

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Speaker 1: and one of the things I asked him was what

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Speaker 1: he made of the Chimbo rebrand or takeover by Gloria Jeans,

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Speaker 1: and he said he was surprised. I hope it goes well,

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Speaker 1: but companies that want to come in and change things

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Speaker 1: up in South Australia doesn't usually end well for them.

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Speaker 1: He talked about Cole's rebranding Bil years ago and how

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Speaker 1: Cole suffered for that. David Jones was another one could

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Speaker 1: have rebranded to Johnny's here in essay chose to get

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Speaker 1: rid of Johnny's and keep the David Jones name in

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Speaker 1: their current stores. Wouldn't say that worked out brilliantly for them.

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Speaker 1: We're very partial in South Australia. We're very defensive of

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Speaker 1: our local brands. And you look at Balfer's and certainly

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Speaker 1: Johnny's and other companies that have gone by the way side.

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Speaker 1: Look Nippy's. Here's an example for you Nippies when they

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Speaker 1: got into bitter strife over somehow some they was supplied.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't their fault they supplied that were supplied some oranges

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Speaker 1: with salmonella or similar some thing that made you unwell,

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Speaker 1: pretty sure it was Salmonella's going back twenty or so

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Speaker 1: years more twenty five probably, and they came out, were

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Speaker 1: up front, said we've been trying to trace it. Eventually

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Speaker 1: they did to the grower responsible. Problem fixed and we

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Speaker 1: love nippies, we want them to stick around forever. In

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Speaker 1: a day, well, I reckon it's the same with Chibbo's.

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Speaker 1: They've been part of the fabric of Adelaide in South

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Speaker 1: Australia for twenty odd years more probably. And Gloria Jeans.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I've been to Gloria Jeans a few times.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't do it for me. Got to say, Tiana Capponi

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Speaker 1: is daughter of a Chiboine, the one at glenelg Tiana, good.

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Speaker 2: Morning, Yes, good morning, Thank you for having.

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Speaker 1: Me, Tony.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, that's correct.

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Speaker 1: So what do you make of this and the premiere supportive?

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Speaker 1: It seems of Chibbo staying as Chibos. He said he

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Speaker 1: was very surprised by it about an hour ago. It

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Speaker 1: seems wrong, I've got to say, as a South Australian.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it definitely seems wrong. You know the franchise these

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Speaker 2: were notified the day of the article being released by

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Speaker 2: News Australia and I think since that press release has

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Speaker 2: has been released to the public, I think it's caused

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Speaker 2: a little bit of stir and we're definitely seeing the

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Speaker 2: public's response online and we're seeing everyone rally rally with

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Speaker 2: us to support Chibo and these business owners and to

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Speaker 2: keep it, you know, as part of the South Australian identity.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely so, you're getting support in the store as well, obviously.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely so. We had Nicole Flint, who's a regular patron

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Speaker 2: of the glen Elk store, approached Dad and she was

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Speaker 2: in disbelief like everyone else's I believe, and has has

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Speaker 2: rallied and put a petition out which you know, in

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Speaker 2: forty eight hours we've received nearly five five and a

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Speaker 2: half thousand signatures, which is fantastic. But I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: what I want to express to the public and the

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Speaker 2: concerns about you know, parties and whatnot. I think we

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Speaker 2: just need you know, both parties to get to get involved.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure Labor are doing a lot a lot

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Speaker 2: in the background, but it's essentially it's not about who

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Speaker 2: you vote for. It's getting people our South Aussies behind

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Speaker 2: the South Australian brand. This is bigger than the eighteen

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Speaker 2: families that own and operate these stores. It's about the

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Speaker 2: It's about the suppliers and the families that own and

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Speaker 2: run those businesses. The coffee wroters are local, the partiseries

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Speaker 2: are local, and the gilat is local. And if this

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Speaker 2: takeover does take place, these jobs are going to be lost.

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Speaker 2: And it's it's fundamental just going forward. How how is

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Speaker 2: this fair? And just you know, this this decision that's

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Speaker 2: a dangerous precedent for franchisers moving forward. They're probably listeners

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Speaker 2: or people that have seen this come out and they

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Speaker 2: own a franchise themselves and they think, gosh, can this

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Speaker 2: happen to me?

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Speaker 1: So very thought under the terms of the franchise, what

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Speaker 1: do you actually own? Just the right to use the name,

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Speaker 1: and if the parent company decides to sell that, that

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Speaker 1: that writer script away from you.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, this question has has been asked many times.

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Speaker 2: I'm not an owner myself, you know, related to an

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Speaker 2: owner of course, however, yeah, we've never never anticipated this

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Speaker 2: could actually have So I think, you know, all the

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Speaker 2: franchisees are just kind of wanting clarity on the takeover,

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Speaker 2: essentially because they did purchase a Chievo Espresso business. That

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Speaker 2: was the agreement, and many of whom have actually have

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Speaker 2: purchased a business in very recent months and it's very

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Speaker 2: confusing for a lot of the business owners.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it is. So would the idea be now

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Speaker 1: that the signage out the front changes to Gloria Jeans

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Speaker 1: and the interior as well as decked out in Gloria

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Speaker 1: Jane kind of colors or whatever. Is that what would happen?

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Speaker 2: It appears that that is their plan.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so the franchise stays if they wish to, but

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Speaker 1: it just becomes a Gloria Jeans and they continue businesses

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Speaker 1: normal otherwise. Yes, yeah, okay, but do we want that

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Speaker 1: to happen as South Australians. That's that's the issue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, this thought has been great, and I've

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Speaker 2: said this before. This isn't to put any hate towards Glory.

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Speaker 2: People need people need to understand. You know, there are

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Speaker 2: a target market for that brand and there are patrons

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Speaker 2: for the Chibo brand. But what people need to understand

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Speaker 2: is there are two very separate patrons, two separate demographics,

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Speaker 2: I would say, And you know it's also it's not

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Speaker 2: just for the Cheabo owners, but what about the owners

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Speaker 2: of the Glory the existing Glory Genes stores. What you know,

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Speaker 2: what's happening there. If the takeover does take place, there's

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Speaker 2: going to be a double up of a couple of locations.

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Speaker 2: That's where it causes confusion amongst the public. That's been

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Speaker 2: quite you know, a question that I've seen coming up

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Speaker 2: which you know would like clarity on. Of course, it's

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Speaker 2: an interesting scenario, that's for sure. But the public have

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Speaker 2: definitely been expressing their love for the Chivo brand and

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Speaker 2: you know, we'd like to keep it in this state.

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Speaker 2: And you know, if they want to expand the Glory

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Speaker 2: Jeans brand, that's fantastic, but do it on your own merit.

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Speaker 2: There are no need to take over. I loved South

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Speaker 2: Australian existing brand. It's not necessary.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Tiana. If people want to sign the petition,

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Speaker 1: I guess go to the glodeorg store. Is it up

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Speaker 1: online anywhere?

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Speaker 2: So? Yes, it's a www. Dot save Chivo dot com

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Speaker 2: dot au. Please hop online and support us as much

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Speaker 2: as you can and if we get ten thousand signatures

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Speaker 2: it will be reviewed in Parliament's aim.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, So you got halfway there already. You'll get

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Speaker 1: the other five? Yeah, no doubt you will. Is there

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Speaker 1: a petition in everystore?

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Speaker 2: No, there isn't. I can't comment on that. It's just

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Speaker 2: best that everyone goes online because this is an external initiative.

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Speaker 2: It is not an internal initiative, and that's all I

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Speaker 2: can comment on.

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Speaker 1: No worries. Do you know anything about Gloria Jesus? Their

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Speaker 1: origins Australian, American, British? What are where are they based?

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Speaker 2: I actually believe they're in the Australian company, Queensland based

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Speaker 2: from from my knowledge. But I can't comment say I'm

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Speaker 2: a patron.

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Speaker 1: Of course you wouldn't be. Dan will kill you. You kidding?

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Speaker 2: Good? Thank you, thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: I hope it goes well. She is Tiana Capponi, daughter

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Speaker 1: of the Chibo's owner Tony down at Glenelg