WEBVTT - Round 15 Takeaways and Origin II Preview

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<v Speaker 1>See what I'm doing it, Coops, what are you doing that?

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<v Speaker 2>Mate?

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<v Speaker 1>Gone to Origin one? You had a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>cheap shot at me. We're in a marine jumper.

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<v Speaker 2>We recruits.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened, mate, We won and I'm a I'm heartless superstitious.

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<v Speaker 3>We recruit everyone to anyone, but we're not having to Mate,

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<v Speaker 3>take that shirt off and go back and look.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day, I just want a

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<v Speaker 1>good game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, me too. Rugby league is a winner. What's happening Coops?

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get in Origin, it's a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>chat about club Land at the moment. The top four

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<v Speaker 1>sides on the ladder anyway, Dogs Raiders worry his Storm.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you rank them? Wonder four?

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<v Speaker 2>One of four?

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<v Speaker 3>As the ladder sits, it's obviously Dog's Raiders worry a storm, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Storm is still the competition favorites as long

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<v Speaker 3>as they're injury free. I feel like if they get

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<v Speaker 3>to the finals and their good players are fit, they

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<v Speaker 3>are prelimp final bound and what happened to them last year,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll drive to win the camp The Warriors, look, they're

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<v Speaker 3>a good team.

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<v Speaker 2>They're playing with a lot of energy at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of confidence.

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<v Speaker 3>Mitch Barneck gone, I just don't feel like if they

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<v Speaker 3>have another injury or two, they could be in trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>And they almost need to have week one at home,

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<v Speaker 3>whether they finish second or fifth. I think week one

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<v Speaker 3>at home would be better for them. Like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>They keep defining the odds.

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<v Speaker 3>They they do and they record away from New Zealand is good,

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<v Speaker 3>but I just feel like for the week one of

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<v Speaker 3>the finals, they might need the New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically the whole country behind them at one stage. Raiders,

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<v Speaker 2>have you seen their draw?

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<v Speaker 1>Ye, I think they'll be premiers. Oh yeah, that would

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<v Speaker 1>be it'd only bed be a collapse of sorts. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>from not to get the minor premiership.

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<v Speaker 3>Their runner is good, their confidence is sky high. Not

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<v Speaker 3>really exposed to original that much.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a testing it self though, because they've been

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<v Speaker 1>operating on momentum as well nomnimy concerts. This this first buy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm interesting to see how they come out of it,

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<v Speaker 1>because there is the tendency to exhale a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and then you've got to get yourself back

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<v Speaker 1>on the tracks.

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<v Speaker 3>They've got a good draw, they've had a couple more

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<v Speaker 3>buyers compared to other teams, and Ricky's been thereabouts. He's

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<v Speaker 3>going to ride this confidence all though. It just depends

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<v Speaker 3>how far it takes them. The Dogs like their game

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<v Speaker 3>style holds up well. They're a good team, but I

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<v Speaker 3>fear like with their origin players like being exposed a

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<v Speaker 3>lot this year, they'll fall in a flat spot in

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<v Speaker 3>round twenty two. They might drop two or three games

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<v Speaker 3>or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that, but they'll ramp back up. But yeah, they'll

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<v Speaker 2>be hard to beat in a big game.

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<v Speaker 1>I've gone purely on form the mount of Good Raiders

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<v Speaker 1>one gone Warriors too. On that that Shark's win was

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<v Speaker 1>that was pretty special? Was not a pretty special win.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a special win. Dogs three Dogs. In the

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<v Speaker 1>last a month, I'm not going to say they've come

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<v Speaker 1>off a little bit, but you know, there's a couple

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<v Speaker 1>there's been a couple of pretty big losses. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the Dolphins one it was a bad one, and and

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<v Speaker 1>the game yesterday. I thought that like there was an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to really go on with it and didn't. But

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<v Speaker 1>so I Dog three, Storm got Storm four at the moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, now do you have them four for the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of the year. Who's your favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of those to win the camp Raiders. Yeah right,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got Raiders slightly ahead of the storm. But the

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<v Speaker 1>Warriors and Dogs they can nab it. We talk about

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, but we say, maybe this competition is

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<v Speaker 1>so tight that has not necessarily been the case in

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<v Speaker 1>the previous five years. There's been the top couple, then

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<v Speaker 1>the dramatic fall away this competition, Mate, there could be

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<v Speaker 1>a side just come out of the blue like a Dolphins.

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<v Speaker 2>You think attack is good?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I well told me this on the Sunday Night

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<v Speaker 1>Chat a couple of weeks ago. I said, at what

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<v Speaker 1>point do we actually really start to take this side

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<v Speaker 1>seriously as a contender. And the temptation was to go, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>not yet, yep, but wait what yeah, well that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>why not? Why not? You know, he's just playing They're

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<v Speaker 1>playing great football.

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<v Speaker 3>They really are a food pack is down like no Gilbert,

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<v Speaker 3>no Plath, no Sofeti. And they've got good workers in

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<v Speaker 3>their team. Can they mix it physically with that dominant

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<v Speaker 3>Raiders pack with Fisher Harris?

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<v Speaker 1>The challenge one thing they have is their outside backs

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<v Speaker 1>work really hard.

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<v Speaker 3>To say this, if they can get any type of

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<v Speaker 3>momentum for car On Ni Karima. Yep, Yes, they can

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<v Speaker 3>win a game if they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Just on Storm. This this is almost unheard of as

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<v Speaker 1>far as the Melbourne Storm under crad Melbourne Storm in general,

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<v Speaker 1>Melbourne Storm usually excel at night games because you blakes

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<v Speaker 1>play in slippery night conditions all the time down in Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 1>This year they've struggled at night. In the day they

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<v Speaker 1>just blast sides apart. At night they've struggled quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just been really totally the opposite from previous years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just feel like what happened to them last year,

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's just going to be this burning desire that

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<v Speaker 3>we cannot answer that question until it gets to a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of weeks out for the finals. I think their

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<v Speaker 3>Origin players, if they get through on Scathe, will have

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of a dip inform and energy. But once

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<v Speaker 3>it's two weeks to go, I think they go like

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<v Speaker 3>that and you do not want to be playing them

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<v Speaker 3>with this burning desire of making up for last.

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<v Speaker 1>Year and one eye on the Panthers. Oh, one eye

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<v Speaker 1>on the Panthers coming out of this. If they can

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<v Speaker 1>come out of this Origin series and they're still going

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<v Speaker 1>a fair bit of petrol and Tank and those key

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<v Speaker 1>men aren't injured. They are really dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>We've said this. Have they used all their bullets?

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<v Speaker 1>That's going to be the question to catch up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you wouldn't want to be a team playing Penrith

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<v Speaker 3>in the finish eighth.

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<v Speaker 2>Put it that way. Yeah, you rather another way.

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<v Speaker 1>In talk about the dogs. Yesterday I thought Galvin Sexton

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<v Speaker 1>I thought in the first half worked well as a combination.

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<v Speaker 1>Question is does Brands dis camera Serldo allow that combination

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<v Speaker 1>to cultivate? If he does, Now where does Burton fit

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<v Speaker 1>in all those things? Did one thing yesterday? I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about and show on on Galvin. What

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<v Speaker 1>he does. Galvin lays lays on a pass to Bronson Cherry,

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<v Speaker 1>who in turn gets a lot of mentorya for the try.

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<v Speaker 1>Now what he does he does something which to everybody

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<v Speaker 1>else looks really basic and simple, but it's not. He

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<v Speaker 1>gets the ball, there's there's opportunity. Now, most playmakers would

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<v Speaker 1>advance the ball towards the defense and then fire the pass.

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<v Speaker 1>Now what this does, though, it brings It brings Bronson

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<v Speaker 1>Cherry basically into the zone of an outside defense. What's

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<v Speaker 1>the snuffy outside in? So what he does he just

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<v Speaker 1>goes catch, he's going to advance and then he just now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to fire it early. It is and that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's a real skill for a playmaker. Don't give it

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<v Speaker 1>to work, don't give it too late. He just got

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<v Speaker 1>it the Goldilocks effect just right.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's a point of difference because if Galvin's not there,

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<v Speaker 3>it's normally cherry and kick out in a different layer

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<v Speaker 3>or a different formation. And it's one of the pluses

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<v Speaker 3>of a half pass into a half because if you

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<v Speaker 3>put a middle ford in that, it's slower and it's

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<v Speaker 3>not as effective. If you go back and have a look,

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<v Speaker 3>the South's defense was tight. Yes, space was where Montoya

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<v Speaker 3>was a lot of ball players and middle forwards. When

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<v Speaker 3>their ballplan, as you said, advanceable too far, that Russian

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<v Speaker 3>defense comes up and you don't get what sex than

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<v Speaker 3>Galvin did. Went past, past pass into the corner. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's awareness of where the space is and not stuff

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<v Speaker 3>in around. Get it to that point quickly, and they

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<v Speaker 3>took advantage of it.

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<v Speaker 1>My brother Andrew once said that he was talking to

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<v Speaker 1>it was one of the playmakers at Newcastle and there

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<v Speaker 1>was Dane Ga guy there and there was Bradman best.

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<v Speaker 1>And Andrew was encouraged Bradman to talk to more to

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<v Speaker 1>dang Gaguy, but come on, learn center play learn the nuances,

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<v Speaker 1>but also talking to the playmakers you know, about how

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<v Speaker 1>to operate with the center and gag guys went. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>it was really good to watch. Gag Guy was teaching

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<v Speaker 1>the young Newcastle playmaker how to how to feed his

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<v Speaker 1>center if it's like, let's say, for instance, three or

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<v Speaker 1>three situation, you know, and he was saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just you've got to just time the pass perfectly.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't take it a step too far. The winger's going

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<v Speaker 1>to jam me outside in and I don't give it

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<v Speaker 1>too early. To have a slide and push him out

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<v Speaker 1>of the sideline just a step maybe two, and then fire

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<v Speaker 1>it or catch him in no men's land.

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<v Speaker 3>And that comes with experience and repetition when you're a

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<v Speaker 3>ballplayer to know the cues of what that center is

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<v Speaker 3>doing before you get the ball across. But the Dogs

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<v Speaker 3>have had a soft landing with this Galvin situation. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I really like what they did week one. They waited

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<v Speaker 3>to the game was sort of in their favor because

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<v Speaker 3>if you had to come at a half time it

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<v Speaker 3>was twelve all I think it was they lose.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's talking about Galvin.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you got him.

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<v Speaker 2>In the last twenty minutes to go, the game was

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<v Speaker 2>tied up.

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<v Speaker 3>He scores a try. We're all celebrating, No Burnton. So

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<v Speaker 3>Sexton was terrific.

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<v Speaker 1>He was. I'm telling you, I got so much admiration

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<v Speaker 1>for Taby with all this going on. He has he had,

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<v Speaker 1>his form has held and he's been able to remain

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<v Speaker 1>focused where other people sometimes will be just chewing their fingernails.

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<v Speaker 2>And his first try was pure half back play.

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<v Speaker 3>He went to kick with option one in his head,

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<v Speaker 3>realize the South defense was retreating. Wait a minute, I

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<v Speaker 3>can take this space here, and then the cover came

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<v Speaker 3>across back inside.

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<v Speaker 2>That is that's good half back play.

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<v Speaker 1>Cameron Suldo is a good enough coach sometimes and not

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<v Speaker 1>proud enough to go you know what, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>change my mind here, Like I'm sure they've got a

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<v Speaker 1>plan in place, but if you know with Sexton, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like, yeah, Toby, just keep playing the way you do, mate.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that obvious. The obvious plan is no Sexton

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<v Speaker 3>galving in. But kudos to Sexton. I like what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>It made some of these opposition clubs. If the dogs

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<v Speaker 1>want to let him go, there's mate something to invest

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<v Speaker 1>in there. I would say most teams in the competition

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<v Speaker 1>could do with a seven in the side. Talking about sevens.

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<v Speaker 2>You talk about yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Here, I was a six, Isaiah Cato.

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<v Speaker 2>I know why you're six because you were seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right. I controlled it. Sometimes the Matthew.

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<v Speaker 3>The player you're about to talk about, you and I

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<v Speaker 3>could play six outside.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy at his age, I've never seen a playmaker

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<v Speaker 1>do the things that he is doing.

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<v Speaker 3>This one here, that is that's beyond his years. He

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<v Speaker 3>has gone to the line. John McLean's reached out and instead

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<v Speaker 3>of advancing the ball further, he actually slows up and

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<v Speaker 3>hooks Jordan McClain to say come to me, which ties

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<v Speaker 3>up the outside defender.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we we could do a show on this kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Mate, we could well, honestly, it's we're spoken about this

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<v Speaker 1>kid more than anyone had competition.

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<v Speaker 3>Last year it was clearing and on this show we

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<v Speaker 3>are doing cartel most weeks. He is doing things that

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<v Speaker 3>he's manipulating defenders to the point that defenders don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to defend that way, and the coaches are saying, don't

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<v Speaker 3>do that. But the way that he holds his body,

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<v Speaker 3>his hips, the ball movement, that stutter step, the gears

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<v Speaker 3>are fast and slow.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's he is driving defenders mad like that one

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<v Speaker 1>with mcclan where As you said before, he's recognized instinctively

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to come out the line of me and

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<v Speaker 1>then go bush push and then just push backwards right

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<v Speaker 1>and McLain he almost falls over him at the end there.

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<v Speaker 3>The contrast to this is that some halfbacks would keep

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<v Speaker 3>going and McLain would wipe that half back out right

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<v Speaker 3>and probably don't engage that next defender as much. But

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<v Speaker 3>because he hooked and stopped, McClain went reached and therefore

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<v Speaker 3>Cafusi on the outside held up the next one. Then

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<v Speaker 3>Nickoreema gets space and that's the reason why they collapse

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<v Speaker 3>on the outside.

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking to someone the other day, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>how did the Dolphins end up with this young bloke?

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<v Speaker 1>And they said, what had happened is, you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>is the way with great clubs like Penrith is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're looking five years in events and they look at

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<v Speaker 1>they looked at Nathan and Jerome coming through and they thought,

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<v Speaker 1>as this side, this young Penriside starts to get better

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<v Speaker 1>and better and wins one camp after the next stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>The next they're going to lose one of their spine players,

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<v Speaker 1>one of their key blokes, Jerome or Nathan probably Jerome

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<v Speaker 1>is not going to see your son yea after camp

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<v Speaker 1>after being camp and they said he's the kid. He's

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<v Speaker 1>the one that's going to then jump in. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously Peter O. Sullivan, who was at the Dolphins alongside Wayne,

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<v Speaker 1>recognized his young bloke and they went and got him,

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<v Speaker 1>gave him a lot more money as a master stroke.

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<v Speaker 2>He obviously spoted him.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think we need to give Christian Wolf a

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<v Speaker 3>huge rap too, like his development under him in the

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<v Speaker 3>first fifteen weeks of this competition year has gone from

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<v Speaker 3>this kid's got talent, so he's a genuine start of

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<v Speaker 3>the competition. And speaking to Christian Wolf and hearing him

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<v Speaker 3>talk like he doesn't over complicate things, like to give

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of example why I think the Dolphins are

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<v Speaker 3>where they are. Remember back at the study, I lost

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<v Speaker 3>four in a row and the cyclone was in Southeast Coinsland.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple of players stayed behind and we all thought,

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<v Speaker 3>this is rugby league, you've got to win the two

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<v Speaker 3>points like that, he said, I trust my players. My

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<v Speaker 3>players trust me, and they stayed true through that four

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<v Speaker 3>losses and they've come out the other side and they

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<v Speaker 3>are playing very entertaining football like Bostock farm Worth like

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<v Speaker 3>just so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Origin Origin. Now what is touched on this? Quickly? The

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<v Speaker 1>dropping of dce ah two things on this and Billy

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<v Speaker 1>has put everybody on notice by dropping DC. In my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>you know no one is safe right now people will thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>oh he mean no one safe. I mean Munster and

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<v Speaker 1>Harry Grant that surely they're safe. I heard Monster interviewed yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>right They asked the question. They said, when Billy called

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<v Speaker 1>you and asked you to come to his room, what

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<v Speaker 1>did you think do you think it was about the captaincy?

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<v Speaker 1>And Monster said in honesty, no, After the way I played,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was going to tell me I was

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<v Speaker 1>eighteenth man or dropped to the bench. That just shows

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<v Speaker 1>it never underestimate anyone's insecurities. Right and by dropping DC,

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<v Speaker 1>all of those Queensland players wo beyond the bit Now

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<v Speaker 1>I tear what like I need to perform? He's going

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<v Speaker 1>to drop the captain. He can easily drop me.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's two parts this.

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<v Speaker 3>I was either way with Cherry Evans or did I

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<v Speaker 3>think Queensland could win Game two with Cherry Evans?

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<v Speaker 2>Or did it halfback right?

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<v Speaker 3>The way that Daily Cherry Evans responded for his team

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<v Speaker 3>against the Titans showed me that.

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<v Speaker 2>Billy made the right call.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I don't even know what Tom didn is going

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<v Speaker 3>to do, but I would have thought with the disappointment

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<v Speaker 3>that Daily chair Evans would have come back and been

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<v Speaker 3>the best player on the field. Now, this is his

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<v Speaker 3>performance against the Titans, and see how he is sideways

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<v Speaker 3>made We spoke about the directness of car See everything

0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:16.160
<v Speaker 3>is sideways. Now he's a good player, but the outside

0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.640
<v Speaker 3>runners get caught up, they're not in the best timing

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<v Speaker 3>and it's just a little bit not engaging the defensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think off this performance and his ballplane, it

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<v Speaker 3>shows that Tom Dinnan is the right call. Reason being

0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.080
<v Speaker 3>is Tom Didan is arrow straight. He might not have

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<v Speaker 3>the kicking game that Daily Cherry Evans has, but Tom

0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:41.239
<v Speaker 3>Didnan will threaten the line. So some of his performances,

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<v Speaker 3>Tom like he is more straight than what Daily Cherry Evans.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that creates space for Munster. It is also a

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<v Speaker 3>threat for this guy to do something like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's like I love him as player coops. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that story where Billy picked him a few years

0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:58.800
<v Speaker 1>ago they were under the park, lots of injuries. Is

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<v Speaker 1>he knocked on knocked on on Tom's door at the

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<v Speaker 1>hotel and told him and Tom started crying. And actually

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<v Speaker 1>they're the sort of players that you want. He's all hard,

0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:10.400
<v Speaker 1>he can't be discouraged. He is not. They've picked him

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<v Speaker 1>for his fight and his energy you have.

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<v Speaker 3>I would tell you that the fact that he got

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<v Speaker 3>that emotional with his debut would have been a big

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<v Speaker 3>part of Billy's decision here. Yeah, because he knows.

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<v Speaker 2>How much it means.

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<v Speaker 3>I won't say it doesn't mean to daily. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>saying that. I'm saying that this kid will not take

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<v Speaker 3>a back footstep.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not a pure playmaker, not in the same post

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<v Speaker 1>code as a Nathan Cleary. So he's a different type

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<v Speaker 1>of hard packed. So I think it's a big responsibility

0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:40.120
<v Speaker 1>on Munster on the left, but a huge responsibility on

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<v Speaker 1>Kaylen Ponger. You know, I expect Calen Pomer played a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of first receiver.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think you'll do a bit of the kicking

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<v Speaker 3>now on the flip side. Moses gone, He's out four

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<v Speaker 3>to six weeks. Leui comes back in. Now the band's

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<v Speaker 3>back together. That Anderth machine is back together. And I

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<v Speaker 3>really am speaking on behalf of Luis. But he's been

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<v Speaker 3>grinding a way at the Tigers, wrestling between being a

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<v Speaker 3>six outside Nathan with a seven on his back, and

0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:09.720
<v Speaker 3>he's doing a decent job. But now he's putting on

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<v Speaker 3>those comfy shoes and Moses is a more dominant.

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<v Speaker 2>Player than Jerome.

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<v Speaker 3>So in game one, Moses would kick the ball, Moses

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<v Speaker 3>would chase on the right hand side, Moses would want

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<v Speaker 3>to get his hands at first receiver and do all

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<v Speaker 3>these things. Jerome Lewie, if I'm trying to predict this,

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<v Speaker 3>he's going to sit on the left hand side, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's going to wait, and he's going to wait. He's

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<v Speaker 3>going to wait till he gets the advantage. He's going

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<v Speaker 3>to Nathan give me the ball. And the other thing

0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:36.879
<v Speaker 3>that he will do that's different to Moses is he

0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:39.280
<v Speaker 3>will drop off Nathan and threaten the middle of the

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<v Speaker 3>field with those drop off plays that Penrith. He will

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<v Speaker 3>be more of a running threat through the middle of

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<v Speaker 3>the field than Mitchell Moses.

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<v Speaker 1>Him coming into the side. It will be less work

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<v Speaker 1>for Laurie in a lot of ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Big time. It's prob he went with him over Burton.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Burton this at this point, in my opinion, is

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<v Speaker 1>he utility play at origin level. That's what people are

0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:01.359
<v Speaker 1>going hang on his eighteenth man. He sh'll go in

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<v Speaker 1>at six. No, no, at you know, if you needing

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<v Speaker 1>to play six, there's an injury at eighth man, he

0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:06.959
<v Speaker 1>can go in there and do the job. But as

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<v Speaker 1>far as the pure six, it's Slewi first, second and

0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:14.159
<v Speaker 1>third mate, energy, arrogance after wrong with that, mate, you know,

0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:16.280
<v Speaker 1>arrogance been able to get into the griddle of the opposition.

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<v Speaker 1>So familiarity and he's just sit mate. He's been he's

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<v Speaker 1>been working really hard at the Tigers. He's my man

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<v Speaker 1>of the match. I think with a lesser responsibility, he'll

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<v Speaker 1>just get out there and play really free. And that

0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:30.880
<v Speaker 1>would be for him to go in there and put

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<v Speaker 1>a staring performance in this game. That'd fantastic for the Tigers.

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<v Speaker 1>You can imagine him taking that back to the Tigers

0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:38.320
<v Speaker 1>and they'll be all up on these taps.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're the half back of the Tigers, like trying

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<v Speaker 3>to find your best form, your stress levels are almost

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<v Speaker 3>here in most weeks. And he's going to go into

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<v Speaker 3>the biggest game of the year so far, and he's

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<v Speaker 3>stressed that this might sound weird, but he stressed level

0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:53.560
<v Speaker 3>is going to be so much like going to be

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<v Speaker 3>so free.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd be like, it's true, curbs, right, let's let's talk

0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:01.080
<v Speaker 1>about I want to talk about Queensland, how hell they play,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want to talk put this Perth, this Perth game.

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<v Speaker 1>Perth's been a really great place for New South Wales

0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:11.399
<v Speaker 1>because traditionally it is a really fast track. Generally it's

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<v Speaker 1>dry that's talking. Might be a bit of rain in

0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:16.920
<v Speaker 1>this one, but dry thirty eight six, forty four to twelve.

0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:19.679
<v Speaker 2>There's no doubt two scores at Perth.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. New South Wales now want that show. If Queensland

0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:26.159
<v Speaker 1>go out there to make this an attacking shootout, I

0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:30.080
<v Speaker 1>think New South Wales wrap up the series comfortably. Queensland

0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:32.040
<v Speaker 1>are going to want to make this, want to make

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<v Speaker 1>this a tough, gritty game. Now, in my opinion, the

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<v Speaker 1>person who's under the most pressure in this game is

0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:39.480
<v Speaker 1>going to be the referee, because I've got no doubt

0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:43.560
<v Speaker 1>that he'd been given the directive less penalties, let's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, a little bit, let more go, a bit

0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:49.240
<v Speaker 1>more flow, you know, and that sort of stuff. Now Queensland, mate,

0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:53.160
<v Speaker 1>they'll multiply, they'll multiply the pressure because they know how

0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:55.200
<v Speaker 1>they have to win, how they have to play to

0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:58.159
<v Speaker 1>win this game. And this is not a criticism, this

0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:00.840
<v Speaker 1>is just fact. Line the ruck a little bit longer,

0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:04.119
<v Speaker 1>half a miter off side sometimes, mate, rush the playmakers,

0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:06.520
<v Speaker 1>rough up the playmakers a little bit, All that stuff

0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:09.080
<v Speaker 1>will be gone, all be on, And I reckon every

0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:12.920
<v Speaker 1>single time the referee blows a penalty, he'll go yeah,

0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:13.320
<v Speaker 1>you know what I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, Just like.

0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:20.280
<v Speaker 3>I can guarantee Queensland won't going in with a shootout mentality.

0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:22.719
<v Speaker 2>That won't happen. A couple of reasons.

0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:27.240
<v Speaker 3>Why one in Game one at Queensland, in the first

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<v Speaker 3>ten minutes even shortened, I was going to say twenty,

0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:33.440
<v Speaker 3>we're we say ten. They didn't bring the crowd in

0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:35.439
<v Speaker 3>the contest, they did not lay on the ruck, they

0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:38.920
<v Speaker 3>did not pull off big line speed wax on. Anyone

0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:40.760
<v Speaker 3>who didn't pick anyone up in rag doll them back.

0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:43.000
<v Speaker 3>They gave away a couple of penalties which let New

0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:46.440
<v Speaker 3>South Wales off the hook, right yep. So when Billy's

0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:50.360
<v Speaker 3>under pressure, he doesn't try and create.

0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:52.199
<v Speaker 2>A way around it. He walks into it.

0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:56.240
<v Speaker 3>So I think, Tino, he's going to take it upon

0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:58.399
<v Speaker 3>himself and he's going to stop paying ass in the

0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:02.080
<v Speaker 3>first fifteen minutes. Does that mean bring back the bif

0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:06.000
<v Speaker 3>does that mean, you know, pushing the boundaries. I don't

0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:07.760
<v Speaker 3>know what it means, but I'm going to back TEENA

0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:10.360
<v Speaker 3>to stop paying half to that little bit. The other

0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:13.879
<v Speaker 3>reason why I say that is you talk about leadership.

0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:18.760
<v Speaker 3>Munster's leadership is not going to be fluff. It's not

0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:21.280
<v Speaker 3>going to be words of wisdom. It's going to be

0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:23.439
<v Speaker 3>all right, what do I need to do here? And

0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:25.679
<v Speaker 3>he's going to run, he's going to tackle. He's going

0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:27.159
<v Speaker 3>to run, he's going to tackle. He's just going to

0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:30.080
<v Speaker 3>be really aggressive of the way that he approaches it.

0:21:30.119 --> 0:21:31.760
<v Speaker 2>So they won't miss the start. I don't think they're

0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:32.280
<v Speaker 2>missus start.

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<v Speaker 1>I look, I'm certain I've seen this a million times. Coop,

0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:38.960
<v Speaker 1>you guys coins ay kind of come out in a

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<v Speaker 1>frenzy the intensity be through the roof and one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most important, the most important factor for New South

0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Wales is matching their energy and their desperation because, as

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<v Speaker 1>we've said before, having to win as opposed to know

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<v Speaker 1>so like even when your blokes dominated for years andsink

0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:02.320
<v Speaker 1>there was only one clean sweep. It just shows you

0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:04.720
<v Speaker 1>if your desperation drops that much, you're going to give bo.

0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:08.640
<v Speaker 3>What So if Queensland play that way, how did New

0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:09.600
<v Speaker 3>South Wales play?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, if I'm Laurie, I'm not giving Queensland what they want.

0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I think Billy to look at this game and say, Rada,

0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:17.240
<v Speaker 1>where you know, where was the pebble in the pond?

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<v Speaker 1>You know where did that initial impact have? That set

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<v Speaker 1>all the reverberations out and it was our back three,

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<v Speaker 1>right and best. The best example is at the start

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<v Speaker 1>of the game Lomax check hit Harry Grant, driv him

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<v Speaker 1>back a meter or two, play the ball and away

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<v Speaker 1>pain hasse went. It'll be very I think one of

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<v Speaker 1>the big themes of the week. It'll be tighten out

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<v Speaker 1>offense and mate, let's subdue that back through for New

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<v Speaker 1>South Wales. So if I'm Laurie, given the fact I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about before. Traditionally up there you can move the

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<v Speaker 1>ball around in Perth given the nature of the track

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<v Speaker 1>is that early in the contest, I'm moving the ball

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, you know, I'm moving the ball the edges.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to let Queensland gang tackle get numbers

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<v Speaker 1>in the tackle, allow us to lie on. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to push the ball with the edges. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>get one on one tackles. If they're going to tighten,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to push the ball to Crichton and Latrell

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<v Speaker 1>and just take the twenty meters on offer. As soon

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<v Speaker 1>as they tighten and darest to push the ball White

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<v Speaker 1>push it wide later in the contest, then revert start

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<v Speaker 1>to play through the middle.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think on the flip side for Queensland, I think

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<v Speaker 3>Kaylen needs to be way more involved. The halves need

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<v Speaker 3>to run the ball like I think they were getting

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<v Speaker 3>two finesse sideways trying to create that extra number. I

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<v Speaker 3>think with Didn's directness, yep, when months is directness, Kaylen

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<v Speaker 3>needs to be that guy that if did and runs

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<v Speaker 3>months ago. As Kaylen goes again, I think the spine

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<v Speaker 3>when one moves the other one needs to don't worry

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<v Speaker 3>about this whole Get the ball one on one out

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<v Speaker 3>in the centers. It needs to be fast played through

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<v Speaker 3>the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've no doubt, isn't it. See old Wayne Bennett

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<v Speaker 1>thiing where he coached that year with Monster and Monster

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<v Speaker 1>just come off for a couple of days party in the

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<v Speaker 1>Grand Final, went to the first half, just pushed the

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<v Speaker 1>ball sideways and Wayne's halftime speech was a month to

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<v Speaker 1>run the football and he did. Got Ment of the match.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me five predictions in this game.

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<v Speaker 3>Five predictions. I said Tino will dominates. I think Monsters

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<v Speaker 3>captain c will be a big talking point after this game.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Xavier coats up against Brian Toal.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he gets three tries.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, I think. I think Queensland obviously win. Score line

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<v Speaker 3>I'll say twenty eight to six.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, I've gone first prediction. I think this could

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<v Speaker 1>be one of the great Origin games. Everything is set

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<v Speaker 1>for it or the theater in game one. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>like I've seen Queensland sides in the past. Have there

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<v Speaker 1>been criticized, but I've never heard them have their gumption

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<v Speaker 1>criticized or questioned over the Spencer situation. Queens will come

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<v Speaker 1>out in a frenzy and I think it's set the

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<v Speaker 1>scene for one of the great Origin Games. My second

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<v Speaker 1>prediction is I think this could be the arrival of

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<v Speaker 1>Stefana as an elite middle forward. He's gone to Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see him sort of bit by bit improving,

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<v Speaker 1>just doing those little things right. Craig Bellamy wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've got no doubt that, Laurie. We went

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<v Speaker 1>to Craig and said is he ready? Craig, the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that he's picked said that. Craig said he is, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's set for him to go to that next level

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<v Speaker 1>and he and pain in combination could be a beauty Queensland.

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<v Speaker 1>Third prediction Queensland do kick off to Spencer if they're

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<v Speaker 1>as no doubt that that's a dollar one. New South

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<v Speaker 1>Wales to win thirty four to fourteen. Jerome Leui mean

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<v Speaker 1>of the match.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I really like Isaiah Oh in this match because

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<v Speaker 3>we're talking about physicality.

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<v Speaker 2>He knows when to hold it, he knows.

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<v Speaker 3>When to pass it, and that combination Nathan Cleary and Isaiahoh,

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<v Speaker 3>he's worrying for fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great way of finish it.