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Speaker 1: does many roles within the Fellows studios. Now, he's a
Speaker 1: great bloke. We've known him for a couple of years
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Speaker 1: to the Jamo and Dylan Show. Today we're having a
Speaker 1: very very special guest on he's close to our hearts
Speaker 1: because one of the best moments in our life.
Speaker 2: Happy, we'd see you were there, amazing.
Speaker 1: Lovely intro, Welcome to the show. It was a great night.
Speaker 2: That was we still talk about. Well, that trip for
Speaker 2: us was amazing in general, what so many good things happened,
Speaker 2: and that night was really good.
Speaker 3: Well, I remember when you did the pod announcing it
Speaker 3: to your listeners. I was listening to it on the
Speaker 3: plane to Melbourne. So we flew from Sydney to Melbourne,
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, doing my prep for the show,
Speaker 3: like for the pod. I was listening to that, and
Speaker 3: I was like, this is so fucking wholesome because like
Speaker 3: these boys, like we've seen you on TikTok, Like let's
Speaker 3: link up with some creatives and we're there. Caol had
Speaker 3: found you on TikTok, sent it over like let's book
Speaker 3: it in, butked you in and then it's just like
Speaker 3: you lot actually just would never have expected doing that.
Speaker 3: No way for asses or anything. But it's like when
Speaker 3: you work with people that you've listened to or something.
Speaker 3: I was the saying when I got this job, I.
Speaker 1: Was like, what the fuck. Yeah, you meet these people
Speaker 1: that you've been watching, like it's sick. That's exactly what
Speaker 1: it was. I remember I was playing FAF at the time.
Speaker 1: It would have been like seven or eight pm in Perth.
Speaker 2: It was about two years ago like now pretty much
Speaker 2: when we because it was I was coming back from
Speaker 2: Europe two years ago and I was in Thailand or
Speaker 2: on a like stopover, but I stayed there for a
Speaker 2: couple of nights just to break up the trip and
Speaker 2: Jamo calls me. I want to say two years ago.
Speaker 2: It would be close to the date for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So like what I called Dylan was like, mate,
Speaker 1: we've just got a call from the Fellas.
Speaker 2: This is incredible, but it was ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It was like what you were saying. It was a
Speaker 1: little bit of imposter syndrome because we had been watching
Speaker 1: callan Chip for so long and then to get the
Speaker 1: call up, it was like, you know, we've we've prepared
Speaker 1: for this, like we're ready to go. Yeah. It felt
Speaker 1: a little bit like sport. Yeah, up, you come and
Speaker 1: you come and prepare every week, and you know you
Speaker 1: put your best foot forward and then yeah, if you
Speaker 1: keep going and going, you get to put yourself in
Speaker 1: those positions and you get that call up.
Speaker 3: So I think that for me was like one of
Speaker 3: the first experiences I had where I was like, it
Speaker 3: gave me a bit of a wake up cause to like,
Speaker 3: cause you get desensitized very quickly, so like what you're
Speaker 3: doing and working on a show like the Fellas, I
Speaker 3: came in Sue Cow and shit was so welcoming and
Speaker 3: they very much made me feel like, you know, part
Speaker 3: of part of it very quickly, and you forget that
Speaker 3: these like you know, podcast or whatever are some people's
Speaker 3: you know, every week they'll listen to it without fail.
Speaker 3: It was that moment I remember being like, this is
Speaker 3: actually sick, Like the show I'm working on has impact
Speaker 3: on people's lives.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't realize because it's your normality to do
Speaker 2: it every single week and it's like see routine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was the first time we've ever traveled
Speaker 1: to do something, so yeah, I guess before then we
Speaker 1: took what we do seriously, but not to the point
Speaker 1: where we thought it could take us to that level.
Speaker 1: So like, by all means, we're not the biggest podcast
Speaker 1: in the world, like where we're so far off it. However,
Speaker 1: what we do, as you said, it impacts people in
Speaker 1: a positive way. Sure, and that's why we've kept doing it.
Speaker 1: It's been to get the winds along the way. It's
Speaker 1: been over five years now, yeah, like that's ment.
Speaker 3: We just keep coming in this two years longer, almost
Speaker 3: two years longer than I've been at the fellas.
Speaker 1: I've been almost three years now.
Speaker 2: So were you you'd been there what about a year before?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was almost a year my year would have been.
Speaker 3: So we came in September. Yeah, I was November. I
Speaker 3: joined twenty one.
Speaker 1: Because I remember speaking to you the first time we
Speaker 1: met in that airbnb in Melbourne and you were saying,
Speaker 1: how much of a whirlwind, like six to twelve months
Speaker 1: it was?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was crazy, bro like, especially as like in
Speaker 3: that time I came in as like producer, was never
Speaker 3: expecting to like be on camera or Mike or whatever.
Speaker 3: Never and then cow goes on the have a Word pod,
Speaker 3: the Scale slads Yep, goes on that podcast, comes back
Speaker 3: and he's like, I really like the dynamic of having
Speaker 3: the producer like chirping, and I was like, that's sick
Speaker 3: or whatever, and he said, would you like to do it?
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm not going to say no to
Speaker 3: this opportunity.
Speaker 1: That's class. So my favorite thing is when I listened
Speaker 1: to pitch side, Like we both love our Premier League, right,
Speaker 1: and when you get a gig, you know Lewis so good.
Speaker 1: And then I love it when Lewis is there too,
Speaker 1: because he winds everyone up. And the way I was
Speaker 1: saying it to deal earlier was that everyone has a
Speaker 1: Lewis in their group. Oh yeah, and hows is this
Speaker 1: guy called Brandon Li Yeah, his names or his nicknames Rambo, right,
Speaker 1: and Rambo gets the most piss taken out of him
Speaker 1: in our friendship group. But he like he still gives
Speaker 1: it out as well. He does looks for it, and
Speaker 1: I think Lewis Lewis might do that as well. He
Speaker 1: like fish for fish for The.
Speaker 3: Thing is with Lewis, you actually never know whether he's
Speaker 3: being serious or not because like in the office, okay,
Speaker 3: he'll say something really outlandish, but I look around, I've
Speaker 3: scam around the room and I look at someone like
Speaker 3: filming right now, like someone doing doing the vlog, because
Speaker 3: I'm like, you're just saying this for a reaction, but
Speaker 3: he actually like gets such a kick out of it.
Speaker 3: So like we'll be we did the fancy draft and
Speaker 3: he just he did not need to do this. He
Speaker 3: chose Jacob Murphy as his first round pick. There was
Speaker 3: absolutely zero reason to do that, apart from the fact
Speaker 3: you've got the reactions that you wanted.
Speaker 1: It was so funny. Everyone does have one in their group.
Speaker 1: You need one.
Speaker 2: I think they're important for a group dynamic.
Speaker 3: We've got a lag called Nick and is very much
Speaker 3: like that. Got actually kind of mixed tween two. So
Speaker 3: Nick sort of like when you're out and night out,
Speaker 3: he has to be center of attention, okay, and we
Speaker 3: always make good oak out of it, saying all right,
Speaker 3: if you're not got center of attention for long enough whatever.
Speaker 3: But then we've also got another guy who's very much
Speaker 3: he classed himself as a WhatsApp persona. Now, I don't
Speaker 3: know if you've got any of like this in your group.
Speaker 3: It's someone who, when you're in person will not really
Speaker 3: like give it too much, but they don't. They kind
Speaker 3: of sitting there, they sit in the wings, but as
Speaker 3: soon as they're on the WhatsApp group chat, they are
Speaker 3: giving everyone ship.
Speaker 2: Ours is pretty consistent on Messenger and on Yeah, what
Speaker 2: you see is what you get.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I reckon I can be a bit more chappy
Speaker 1: in the group chat though, Like I think everyone is
Speaker 1: a little bit more amplified when it comes to the
Speaker 1: group chat because you're a bit more safe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, keyboard worries, isn't it? Yeah, unless the foot is on.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Two of the boys teams are playing like at home
Speaker 2: at a prieze or something. Yeah, we had one last
Speaker 2: while we weren't there for it.
Speaker 1: I wasn't there. I was over here.
Speaker 2: But in the footy, one of Rambo's team beat our
Speaker 2: mate Jared's team with a goal after the siren in AFL,
Speaker 2: which is really rare, and he was going, nah.
Speaker 1: That's the one thing I love about AFL, like our
Speaker 1: national sport, is that the final siren goes but if
Speaker 1: you've taken a mark, so if you've caught the ball,
Speaker 1: you still get to have your shot at goal, even
Speaker 1: if the time's gone.
Speaker 3: It's essentially a very very rare occasion that that shot
Speaker 3: goes in. But I assume everyone shoots when the siren.
Speaker 1: Goes correct, Yeah, and sometimes. For example, most AFL players
Speaker 1: could kick about fifty meters on average, fifty to fifty
Speaker 1: five meters. This guy was only shooting from about thirty five, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe like forty directly in front. Just it was this
Speaker 1: guy who was in his first or second year, so
Speaker 1: all the pressures on his shoulders, packed stadium and then yeah,
Speaker 1: he sent it through stadium went crazy. And that's the
Speaker 1: one unique thing about our sport that I think is
Speaker 1: the winner after this special Yeah, yeah, have you watched
Speaker 1: much AFL at all? We didn't go to an NFL
Speaker 1: game next to us. It was the ground. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was the ground final or something and cow got a
Speaker 1: plug for some tickets. Who wo.
Speaker 3: Yeah like light blue, Yeah, like the who the strike
Speaker 3: gave Coward along a scarf Melbourne. Yeah, and ended up
Speaker 3: winning and he was just like chirping about that in
Speaker 3: the group chat. But yeah, no, the AFL, it looks
Speaker 3: so fun.
Speaker 2: It is a great one.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The closest sport would probably be Gaelic football.
Speaker 3: But the pitch is a massive Yeah, I couldn't get over.
Speaker 3: It's almost like a cricket pitch but well bigger circular.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The MCG obviously Melbourne cricket ground they played there too,
Speaker 1: that's that's where they play the Grand final. So no,
Speaker 1: it's a very special sport and it's really close to
Speaker 1: our hearts because we grew up playing it. It's like
Speaker 1: football for a lot of English kids. Yeah, but it's
Speaker 1: good because we've had the best of both worlds. We
Speaker 1: grew up playing both and.
Speaker 2: We've got to experience our first PREM game, which was
Speaker 2: a good atmosphere.
Speaker 1: How did you guys find that it was actually good?
Speaker 2: Obviously? Is Ipswitched more of like your like smaller local town. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it felt like all that city has is the team.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I don't know much about like East Anglia football,
Speaker 3: but Sam from behind the cam, he's he's from that way. Yeah,
Speaker 3: But I think Ipswich they've always kind of up until
Speaker 3: the last few years have struggled in like League One. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and then I think they got to the championship and
Speaker 3: they've been there for a bit.
Speaker 2: Because in the PREM long time ago.
Speaker 3: And then and sponsor, Yeah, he's I don't know if
Speaker 3: he's like an owner or anything, but he.
Speaker 1: I think recently he bought a steak in the club.
Speaker 1: But he's always been an Ipswich fan. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it was a cool little town, like all these
Speaker 2: little pubs, and it was.
Speaker 1: A really wholesome. It was a wholesome experience. Like we
Speaker 1: we arrived in the town, we caught the Greater Anglia
Speaker 1: I believe it's called it got into Ipswich and then
Speaker 1: obviously because it's the first day in the prem for
Speaker 1: a long time. The Yeah, it was incredible. And that's
Speaker 1: one thing that that football has over AFL is we
Speaker 1: don't have relegation or anything. Yeah, it's just the I guess,
Speaker 1: the anticipation, the chance, like a lot of these things
Speaker 1: are amplified here compared to back home.
Speaker 3: That manager as well, who switch have, he's really good yeah,
Speaker 3: Kan mckn Yeah, I think I think actually he'll do
Speaker 3: quite well with them the season because they've got quite
Speaker 3: a depleted squad.
Speaker 2: But do you catch many of you're Chelsea man?
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Actually, you know what, I used to go to a
Speaker 3: lot more games than I do now. So I had
Speaker 3: a period where I was going every week more or less.
Speaker 3: I had my mate's dad's season ticket because his dad
Speaker 3: just wasn't asked about football. We actually almost exchanged it
Speaker 3: into my name, which for those who are on a
Speaker 3: season ticket waiting list, no, there's an absolute gold time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so I would have to so I'd have to do
Speaker 3: to get a Chelsea season ticket. Now this is when
Speaker 3: I looked maybe like a couple of seasons ago, I
Speaker 3: would have to for an entire season from the moment
Speaker 3: the home preseason game start, I would have to have
Speaker 3: a membership build up my points, go to absolutely every
Speaker 3: single game. I'd even need to go to the away
Speaker 3: games in the league Cups. To say we get Stockport
Speaker 3: on a Tuesday night, I would have to go to
Speaker 3: that game to be obviously pay for my ticket, build
Speaker 3: up the points to be in with the chants at
Speaker 3: the end of the season of getting a ballot spot
Speaker 3: to get a season ticket. So that's obviously. Chelsea is
Speaker 3: quite a small stadium, so for like a big club,
Speaker 3: it's quite hard. Even even now, like somewhere like Arsenal
Speaker 3: was really hard to get a season ticket for because
Speaker 3: football is so popular in North London. Everyone you got
Speaker 3: to speak to in North London is an Arsenal fan,
Speaker 3: so it's very it's very kind of like sought after.
Speaker 3: But yeah, with Chelsea had habit to do that for
Speaker 3: a whole season, and I think it was the year
Speaker 3: that I was going to do it. It was my
Speaker 3: first year at this job and I was just like
Speaker 3: I can't do that, man, Like I'll just if I
Speaker 3: can get a game ticket to a game I will
Speaker 3: but yeah, me and the lad I went to the
Speaker 3: season ticket with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't really chat anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, okay, one of them.
Speaker 1: So lost a friend and a Chelsea ticket. I didn't
Speaker 1: do anything wrong. Can I just say it wasn't actually
Speaker 1: involving me. It's just a cross path in one of those.
Speaker 1: There's one of them for you know, you know it
Speaker 1: goes you know, it's a shame when those things happened
Speaker 1: because he would have had so many good memories with
Speaker 1: that person too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we saw Chelsea win the Champions League together. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and we weren't didn't go to Porto because it was
Speaker 3: during COVID. I actually had the like ticket to go
Speaker 3: in my basket for like one of them one where
Speaker 3: you can go the same day and come back the
Speaker 3: same day. So you fly out the morning and it's
Speaker 3: a really early flight. You obviously go to the game,
Speaker 3: your match ticket is in that package, and then you
Speaker 3: get the last plane home. So in this instance, I
Speaker 3: think it would have been right because it was COVID times.
Speaker 3: My mates who were over there said there was no
Speaker 3: celebrating afterwards in Porto and those you know, Porto is
Speaker 3: a six city, especially for.
Speaker 1: A night out.
Speaker 3: So to hear that is like if you went Chelsea win,
Speaker 3: you get the best of both wards because you were there,
Speaker 3: but then also could have got the last plane home
Speaker 3: without the fear of missing out on anything because nothing
Speaker 3: was open. Yeah, it was like I think it was
Speaker 3: like eight hundred quid or something for the flights and ticket.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny. One of our really good friends, Josh Rognetta,
Speaker 1: he kind of gets the piss taken out of in
Speaker 1: our friend group. We have like our boys chat and
Speaker 1: then he's just our like really good friend from school
Speaker 1: that we've known for a long time. And he's like
Speaker 1: a really good person, but a shit friend, Like he
Speaker 1: just won't make much time for you. He studies physiotherapy
Speaker 1: at UNI, and he's just when he's in unimode, you
Speaker 1: can't like snap him out of it. Yeah, so we
Speaker 1: have to wait till like UNI break to spend time
Speaker 1: with him and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: I actually think it's a really positive thing though, being
Speaker 3: able to address that sometimes you're a shit friend. I'm
Speaker 3: I would like to think I'm a really good friend.
Speaker 3: Like if my mate calls me at three am, I'm there.
Speaker 3: I'm one of those I feel like I'm on them
Speaker 3: people without blowing smoke at my house, but recently because
Speaker 3: work being busy, just life being busy and stuff, I
Speaker 3: just completely ignored two of his voice notes that he'd
Speaker 3: sent me. And it wasn't anything. He wasn't sending me
Speaker 3: anything serious or deep, but I ignored them. And I
Speaker 3: like genuinely never applied for like a week and a
Speaker 3: half because I'd gone away or something. And then he
Speaker 3: followed up saying, hey, mate, I feel like we sort
Speaker 3: of need to reconnect sort of thing. And I was
Speaker 3: like that wording is I read like back the conversation
Speaker 3: and saw me like airing the messages.
Speaker 1: I said, that is so fucking poor from me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I went and had a meet. I had a meeting.
Speaker 3: I went and had a coffee with him, not to
Speaker 3: chat about that because we needed to up anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And I was just like Tim, bro, before we say anything,
Speaker 3: I want to address that I've been a ship friend
Speaker 3: and I'm sorry about that, and like, I don't want
Speaker 3: to be known as a ship friend. Yeah, because you
Speaker 3: know it's easy to just let things sleep with friendships.
Speaker 2: It is you need to put in effort for sure.
Speaker 2: And I think our friendship group was a little bit
Speaker 2: wayward for a couple of years. I felt like it's
Speaker 2: very easy to say no to like a night out
Speaker 2: of going to dinner. But then I reckon in the
Speaker 2: last sort of year year and a half, everyone's been
Speaker 2: switched on, and I think it's good to hold each
Speaker 2: other exactly because you need to put effort into your
Speaker 2: friendship for them to be good. And like, if you're
Speaker 2: a good friend, you'll get that back from your mass.
Speaker 3: It's important for mates to talk about that as well.
Speaker 3: I think boys don't like talk about that sort of
Speaker 3: stuff enough. Yeah, And I'm lucky that it was one
Speaker 3: of my best mates Ben and he and we're very
Speaker 3: open with each other, so like if he's struggling, or
Speaker 3: tell me.
Speaker 1: If I'm struggling, I'll tell him.
Speaker 3: And I think if you've got that with your like
Speaker 3: best mate, it's always it's always going to be valuable
Speaker 3: later down the.
Speaker 1: Line to have those tough conversations. Definitely. So yep, it's
Speaker 1: important that Back to Josh Rognetta, that's a great name
Speaker 1: by the way, Oh you know, it's great, and it's
Speaker 1: great to make fun of him too. That's something we've
Speaker 1: done on our show for the last maybe six months.
Speaker 1: Is we've made fun of him purely out of spite,
Speaker 1: like the fact that he can't make time for us.
Speaker 1: We'll just call him Flognetta. We'll call him weasel. Weasel
Speaker 1: is the best one because we we kind of we
Speaker 1: make this voice up, like my name's Josh, like a
Speaker 1: Weasily voice. Yeah, just a nice guy. No.
Speaker 2: We beg him to come on and he won't.
Speaker 1: He just won't. Why.
Speaker 3: I don't know, you think you're outed by the fans
Speaker 3: because you guys taking the piss out of him.
Speaker 1: Maybe I also think that he's just not that type
Speaker 1: of person to be in front of camera and he's
Speaker 1: a little bit like scared of what may happen.
Speaker 2: But he just wants to be a physio, like that's
Speaker 2: his goal. Yeah, yeah, he really is.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So he's actually not really a football fan, right.
Speaker 1: He loves his AFL and he's actually a Geelong Cat supporter.
Speaker 2: So he's successful team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a great city of AFL.
Speaker 2: No, because Long have been around for like a very
Speaker 2: long time and then.
Speaker 1: Geelong I've been a top team for the last twenty
Speaker 1: years United yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but much better in recent history.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, more consistently. Yeah, yeah, I heard they lost
Speaker 3: a lot of finals though.
Speaker 2: They did come short, like they would make Top four
Speaker 2: basically every year they want to. I think in two
Speaker 2: thousand and seven to twelve they wont about three Grand finals, right,
Speaker 2: and then in twenty twelve to twenty twenty two they
Speaker 2: must have played in six prelims which is the game
Speaker 2: before the Grand Final to get in. They lost, but
Speaker 2: then twenty twenty two they finally broke through and won.
Speaker 1: So basically consistent club. He has seen a lot of
Speaker 1: success in his life and we're jealous. Like the team
Speaker 1: that I support, Fremantle Dockers have never won a premiership.
Speaker 1: We've been around for thirty years. Yeah right, Dylan supports
Speaker 1: the Adelaide Crows. You haven't you haven't seen one.
Speaker 2: Can win it because the last one was ninety eight ninety.
Speaker 1: So we've been starved of success and the little Weasel
Speaker 1: has received a lot of success. Right now, we wanted
Speaker 1: to inject him into the Premier League world. He doesn't
Speaker 1: support a team, so we were thinking what's the best
Speaker 1: way of doing this. So what I like to do,
Speaker 1: especially in our friendship group, is bring out the spinny wheel.
Speaker 1: It's like wheel of names on the internet, right, I
Speaker 1: put every Premier League team down and we're going to
Speaker 1: do process of elimination excluded.
Speaker 2: He wanted the top four from last season excluded purely.
Speaker 2: He didn't want to like jump.
Speaker 1: On Yeah, right, So I was kind of hoping he
Speaker 1: got a kind of shit team, like an unknown ish
Speaker 1: type of team, like a Southampton, so I could you know,
Speaker 1: not them, Yeah, I could kind of bond with the
Speaker 1: fact that, you know, we're not glory hunters, we're not winning,
Speaker 1: so like it's kind of like an edgy thing to do.
Speaker 1: And then we got through, you know, all the way,
Speaker 1: all the way down to the bottom, and then he
Speaker 1: actually ended up with Chelsea. He's a Chelsea man. He's
Speaker 1: a Blue bloke, He's a Blue But I think it
Speaker 1: could have been worse though, But there was a few
Speaker 1: teams down the bottom that were there towards the end
Speaker 1: there and Everton and Everton was close.
Speaker 2: That wouldn't have been good.
Speaker 1: I actually, you know, I've always have had a soft
Speaker 1: spot for Everton. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, people are gonna lie because I don't
Speaker 3: like Liverpool as a club, right, Yeah, I think because
Speaker 3: Liverpool don't like Everton.
Speaker 1: I automatically liked Everton. Yeah, yeah, I feel that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just hate watching it. I would have actually liked
Speaker 1: him to support Everton, like, as I'm a Southampton supporter.
Speaker 1: Obviously we're relegation rivals. Okay, so we're going to struggle
Speaker 1: to stay up this year. I know that, and I
Speaker 1: was hoping that, you know, if he supported Everton, we
Speaker 1: could just go back and forth with Abuse throughout the
Speaker 1: season and hopefully I can come out on top. But
Speaker 1: he's got Chelsea obviously, yeah, potentially maybe, but now he's
Speaker 1: got usually come good. Like it's interesting, honestly, you don't.
Speaker 3: Know about this year because like last season, we look
Speaker 3: like a lost dog, lost puppy, and then we came
Speaker 3: right because of consistency and pots just sticking to it
Speaker 3: and everyone jelling with Portsch and then Potch leaves. Now
Speaker 3: it ground zero and we've signed about fifty more players.
Speaker 3: So it's like, I don't know where we're at. I
Speaker 3: think we're worst off.
Speaker 1: Right now currently. How do you think you went yesterday?
Speaker 3: I think we played okay, we didn't have again story
Speaker 3: of our life. We don't have anything in front of goal,
Speaker 3: Like it's almost like someone has just fucking cursed our
Speaker 3: club with this mineral lacking ability of shooting in front
Speaker 3: of goal, because on his day Nicholas Jackson could actually
Speaker 3: be a brilliant finisher, but he was just so shit yesterday.
Speaker 3: He had a big opportunity, fluffed it. Then obviously there
Speaker 3: was the off side, and then and Kunku was offside
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, who knows? It will take a while. Where
Speaker 1: do you reckon you'll finish true or head or heart both?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm saying my heart wants to say we'll finish
Speaker 3: top five, My head eighth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, which is fucking vismal, by the way, from
Speaker 1: the amount we spent.
Speaker 3: You know, when you saw them out many players, it
Speaker 3: will take ages to click. But I think our owners
Speaker 3: is just so stupid to think that we need instant success.
Speaker 1: I don't know they played the long game in its
Speaker 1: work they have. I actually saw a funny photo on
Speaker 1: Twitter yesterday and it was a pub board out the
Speaker 1: front of a club, a pub. Yeah, it was one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen chargess versus one hundred and fifteen players.
Speaker 3: That whole narrative is a bit forced though, the players
Speaker 3: thing because there's so many of them like Sky Sports
Speaker 3: did this thing where they showed excuse me, did our depth.
Speaker 1: It's like half the.
Speaker 3: Players will never touch the grass and stuff for a bridge,
Speaker 3: so why even refacing them? Like if you did that
Speaker 3: with Man City, it would be the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, bit of money farming. Like a lot of
Speaker 1: those young players are just going to be yeah, sent
Speaker 1: send away on loan. You know they'll get better and
Speaker 1: then you'll make money off you, like Muri Hutchinson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I guess that's the way that football is now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how you make money if it's not being pumped
Speaker 1: into the club. Do you think City going to get charged?
Speaker 1: Like what's the consensus over here through social media?
Speaker 3: I'd never really like chat about it, to be fair,
Speaker 3: because it's like I feel like it's just a bit
Speaker 3: of a waste of energy people that get rolled up
Speaker 3: by City doing all this and that. I just think,
Speaker 3: like there's a reason they're doing so well. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: it's not the one hundred and fifteen charges, Like do
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like they are just a
Speaker 3: very good team. They've got the best coach in the world. Yes,
Speaker 3: I think if if they do get charged with them,
Speaker 3: I think it will be a it won't be a
Speaker 3: points deduction, it will be a massive, massive fine, yeah,
Speaker 3: I think. And then maybe some strip titles will be
Speaker 3: crazy would be with the Premier League title, I know.
Speaker 2: Even though you know the Man United Enemy we love that,
Speaker 2: but we actually had that in the AFL about ten
Speaker 2: years ago. Really, so the top individual awards called the
Speaker 2: brown Low Medal, so the best player the PFA and
Speaker 2: it's you know, the night of Nights in Australian sport
Speaker 2: really and an Essendon player, Joe bats and he won
Speaker 2: the Brownlow. A few years after that, it came out
Speaker 2: the club Essendon, who he played for at the time,
Speaker 2: had this drug scandal, right and a massive, massive amount
Speaker 2: of their team got banned for twelve months. The club
Speaker 2: doctors were I guess, not particularly honest about what they
Speaker 2: were giving the players.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the players on, like the majority of them
Speaker 1: were unaware. No, and it was a really big deal.
Speaker 1: These performance enhancing drugs. I can't remember off the top
Speaker 1: of my head what name they were, but apparently they
Speaker 1: could make you just stronger and faster and all these things.
Speaker 2: And they took his his Brownlow got taken off him.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't even his decision.
Speaker 2: He was the second place, which was a tie. But see,
Speaker 2: I just I think that it should just be cancer.
Speaker 2: I agree because say he got the max max votes
Speaker 2: in the game's three votes, right, but if he's not
Speaker 2: playing in the game, it changes the whole, you know,
Speaker 2: like integrity of the voting.
Speaker 1: And that's why I think, for example, if United got
Speaker 1: that Premier League or all the teams that finished second
Speaker 1: in those years that city finished first, Yeah, I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't like to see the second place team win
Speaker 1: because I think.
Speaker 3: In that period we didn't come second in a period
Speaker 3: like that at all. So I think, yeah, I don't
Speaker 3: think we'd get any Premier League titles from that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they wouldn't feel right. As a player, you put
Speaker 1: your heart and soul into it and you know that
Speaker 1: you weren't the actual winner or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be I don't think any fan would
Speaker 3: want that. No, imagine Liverpool clop having how many Premier
Speaker 3: League titles.
Speaker 2: And on a few too by a couple of points.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy, that's insane.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of similarities between like the UK sport
Speaker 3: and Australian sport.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and culture as well. We've noticed just through
Speaker 1: our travels. We've only been here for four days or something.
Speaker 1: But you know, there's a lot of similarities.
Speaker 2: In the way people like Definitely Melbourne like vibes just
Speaker 2: aesthetically a little bit.
Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Shortch is very similar to Melbourne. Yeah, say
Speaker 3: like East London. But it cracks me up, man, how many.
Speaker 1: Australians are over here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've heard a lot about that in so many area.
Speaker 2: I just mentioned it to us as an area where
Speaker 2: they all leave, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where Liam Dowling lives. Okay without doxing him,
Speaker 3: but yeah, it's a big area. So yeah, like Southwest
Speaker 3: London's clapping a lot of young people there.
Speaker 1: It's like good.
Speaker 3: I mean it's not it's not my cup of tea personally,
Speaker 3: because where I went to school. It's a bit of
Speaker 3: UK knowledge for you. So where I went to school,
Speaker 3: like the area if the UK that I went to
Speaker 3: is a place called Surrey. Yeah, very very meaned in
Speaker 3: a sense that it's full of posh people like, you know,
Speaker 3: white girls with a lot of money, all this.
Speaker 1: Sort of stuff.
Speaker 3: Now in that area when you leave UNI often a
Speaker 3: lot of the people from Surrey all go to the
Speaker 3: same group of universities called the Russell Group unis, so
Speaker 3: you've got like Exeter, Manchester, Bristol, places like that, the
Speaker 3: top unions in the UK because they're all privately educated
Speaker 3: and they gone to the same UNI, so they all
Speaker 3: hang around the same people. Then when they leave UNI,
Speaker 3: having known everyone from their Russell Group UNI, they'll move
Speaker 3: to London and they'll always move to Clapham and Balum,
Speaker 3: these two like neighboring areas in southwest London, and therefore
Speaker 3: you'll then go on nights out and you'll see people
Speaker 3: that you've known or growing up. Now, I went to
Speaker 3: Bournemouth UNI, so my union wasn't as good as those,
Speaker 3: but from where I'm from, I would probably bump into
Speaker 3: a lot of people that, like I moved from Skaia.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think if you're moving to a new city, you
Speaker 3: want to meet new people and you don't really want
Speaker 3: to kind of constantly remind yourself of like what was there.
Speaker 3: Yeah almost, So I kind of don't understand when people
Speaker 3: choose to move to an area because they know lots
Speaker 3: of people there, unless you're moving from abroad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I feel like you know, a
Speaker 1: big part of life is to experience different things, experience
Speaker 1: new people, yeah, and gain new life experiences rather than
Speaker 1: like sitting in the same spot with the same people,
Speaker 1: not the same spot, but like, yeah, moving with them.
Speaker 3: I don't know, you diversify like your knowledge of the
Speaker 3: world as well. Like when I went to Bournemouth UNI,
Speaker 3: I was around so many different people. Yeah, I was
Speaker 3: around so many like people I wouldn't have met if
Speaker 3: i'd like gone and hung around with the people that
Speaker 3: were from my area. Because the thing is, I always
Speaker 3: get joked about in the pod because I went to
Speaker 3: private school. But I never grew up in a family
Speaker 3: that could afford private school. So I was very very
Speaker 3: lucky that I was given scholarships and bursaries and stuff,
Speaker 3: so I was able to go to these schools. But
Speaker 3: therefore the people that I hung around with at the
Speaker 3: school were very different to my family in the sense
Speaker 3: that my mum's single mom, like you know, are very
Speaker 3: very fortunate in the privilege that I had around me
Speaker 3: in my life, Like a lot of the people around me,
Speaker 3: you know, were well off or whatever.
Speaker 1: But I never had that.
Speaker 3: Sort of real harsh reality of what some people go
Speaker 3: through because you don't necessarily you're not surrounded by those
Speaker 3: people who surrounded by a lot of privileged people. And
Speaker 3: as you get older, it's important to meet those people
Speaker 3: that do almost make you understand the world a bit better.
Speaker 1: Like born with UNI.
Speaker 3: So many of my like UNI mats and stuff, lived
Speaker 3: like crazy lives where you think, how have you even
Speaker 3: made it to UNI, Like fair fucking play to you,
Speaker 3: Like you've had the chips against you. And I think
Speaker 3: a lot of people just go through their whole life
Speaker 3: without even like clocking onto that. I think it's an
Speaker 3: important lesson to learn.
Speaker 1: Makes you appreciate things for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my mom was telling me once actually she so
Speaker 3: my granddad. It died when I was like three, but
Speaker 3: my granddad was very well off. He lost everything, but
Speaker 3: like before he lost everything, my mum obviously had a
Speaker 3: very good childhood, and she complained about something once in
Speaker 3: the house. I think it was maybe like her dinner
Speaker 3: or something along those lines. Complained and my granddad went
Speaker 3: to her right getting the car, got her in the car,
Speaker 3: didn't say anything, and he drove her to this really
Speaker 3: bad part of London. So where I've lived, it's not
Speaker 3: first like an arrow drive to London or whatever, drove
Speaker 3: it to this really bad part of London and said like,
Speaker 3: look around you. Do you realize how lucky you are?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: She didn't say anything else, and then from that point on,
Speaker 3: she says to me she never complained to him about
Speaker 3: anything like that again.
Speaker 1: But I think it's that that was for her. It
Speaker 1: was her lesson of like, always be grateful for what
Speaker 1: you have. It's a good lesson because imagine driving in
Speaker 1: the car and you don't know what's going on and
Speaker 1: you think, what the fuck is he gonna do? Exactly?
Speaker 3: And then I mean, I don't think it wasn't in
Speaker 3: a way like he's kidnapping, but like, yeah, it's sort
Speaker 3: of like, right, well, he's gone out of his way
Speaker 3: to prove this to me, and that when you're an
Speaker 3: impressionable kid, like those sorts of memories stick with you,
Speaker 3: don't they definitely?
Speaker 2: Definitely.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think if I had any like life
Speaker 1: lessons like that at a young age. I probably did.
Speaker 1: But off the top of my head, what's it like
Speaker 1: in Perth then? Is it kind of like quite rural?
Speaker 2: It depends, really, I guess I don't think our CBD
Speaker 2: is as busy as other places in Australia. So like
Speaker 2: Melbourne City Center is very popular. People go there for
Speaker 2: all sorts of things. I don't think Perths like that.
Speaker 2: It's more people go there to work, and I think
Speaker 2: our suburbs are a little bit more lively.
Speaker 1: Right, So Perth actually is like a place that has
Speaker 1: a lot of sort of industry and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well it's a where in Australia and general state really
Speaker 1: so up north is where a lot of the mining
Speaker 1: gets done and it provides Australia with a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Right now, we have things called fi fox workers, fly
Speaker 1: in fly out workers, so they'll work two weeks up
Speaker 1: in the mines and they come down and they get
Speaker 1: a week off, two weeks, one week off and it's
Speaker 1: just the cycle they do and they're paid quite well.
Speaker 1: But they're working twelve hour days for how many days
Speaker 1: a week, for fourteen days or thirteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty intense. So it's full on, Dylan, and
Speaker 2: I would probably never do it. I don't think we'd last,
Speaker 2: but I'd love to give it a go for like
Speaker 2: a day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So when you when you do this, So I
Speaker 3: know someone that went out and did this it was
Speaker 3: like sleeping in a tent and everything.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah is it? Is it still mining? How I
Speaker 1: would know it? Back in this country. I think there's
Speaker 1: a lot of different jobs when you go up there.
Speaker 1: So you can go up to the mines, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say they're all mining jobs. You can be a cleaner
Speaker 1: up there, you can do hospitality up there, and there's
Speaker 1: also some dirty jobs too.
Speaker 2: Like the entry level is the drillers offsider. So the
Speaker 2: driller is you know, they go underground and they're drilling
Speaker 2: through the mine to find the minerals, and then the
Speaker 2: off side is sort of cleaning up the rubble all day, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I know a bloke who does that. He shows
Speaker 2: me the videos and they you know, underground there's and
Speaker 2: he's always like getting sick as well, because you know,
Speaker 2: the gases are getting getting released as well. And some
Speaker 2: people have a good like if you work for a
Speaker 2: good mining company, you're on a nice mind site, so
Speaker 2: you know, there's good food, there's you know, a gym,
Speaker 2: there's things to do. Other people can be out in
Speaker 2: the middle of nowhere. We also know someone like that.
Speaker 2: They are sharing like a little you know caravan four
Speaker 2: or five of them.
Speaker 3: Just when you when you say that it's up north,
Speaker 3: so I assume what you're saying is that northern part
Speaker 3: is fairly uninhabitable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so people just go there to work. Yeah, basically
Speaker 1: it's incredibly hot. So Western Australia in general, Perth's the
Speaker 1: most isolated city in.
Speaker 2: The world, major one. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then you look at the northern part of
Speaker 1: Western Australia is just hot all the time. So is
Speaker 1: that where Oolaru is. Yeah, but that's in the middle
Speaker 1: of Australia.
Speaker 2: Still, it's like it's really hot there. Again, not that
Speaker 2: many people live in that part of Australia, Like most
Speaker 2: of Australia's people live along the coast, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: and southern as well, like Perth, Adelaide, even Melbourne is
Speaker 2: Sydney relatively south on the map.
Speaker 1: But ninety nine percent of our state would be rural.
Speaker 1: So like, yeah, where I live, I'm only thirty minutes
Speaker 1: from the city, but I have like a fair bit
Speaker 1: of land. There's kangaroos. Like it's a very typical Australian
Speaker 1: type of purchase, very laid back, like, oh, the lifestyle
Speaker 1: is great if you don't like the hustle and bustle
Speaker 1: of something. So there's a lot of people who like
Speaker 1: retiring there, so you got some older people. But then
Speaker 1: I think Perth is also getting better as the years go.
Speaker 2: They're trying to like the cities. There's lots of upgrades
Speaker 2: happening in our city at the moment, and they're you know,
Speaker 2: creating like Elizabeth Keysy's little harbor in the city that
Speaker 2: they're really doing up and there's lots of infrastructure at
Speaker 2: the moment, and.
Speaker 1: We're getting a lot more major events. So UFC the
Speaker 1: other day was in Perth. Wow, that's our second one.
Speaker 1: We had one two years ago. I think what's the
Speaker 1: timing on that? What time did it have to be?
Speaker 2: I would have started it started at three or four
Speaker 2: am here, so yeah, it was about midday in Perth,
Speaker 2: which it would start.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's mental how they just line up for the
Speaker 3: American American View issue.
Speaker 1: But yeah, see when they had it in.
Speaker 2: Manchester, didn't they fight like a ridiculous time.
Speaker 1: Leon Edwards fought like half five in the morning. Crazy
Speaker 1: was the fuck you're in the UK? It should be
Speaker 1: on the UK time.
Speaker 2: Because that's a really weird time to put them on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you were to do it at like let's
Speaker 3: say Main Card being at half ten eleven at night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in what time would that be here? So seven
Speaker 1: seven hours ahead, so it'd be like three o'clock in
Speaker 1: the afternoon, in the afternoon here.
Speaker 3: I mean it should just be based on where the Yeah,
Speaker 3: but yeah, I guess basic for the American mind they do.
Speaker 1: They only gear it towards the American market.
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's having a big night in Manchester today. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm sure there is London the best. Do you think
Speaker 2: it's the best city in England?
Speaker 1: What are you after? I don't know, because for me,
Speaker 1: quality of life.
Speaker 3: I've got a love hate relationship with with London giving
Speaker 3: you like a few love and a few hates and
Speaker 3: then some other cities you like. Yeah, I love the
Speaker 3: fact that London has everything to better my career and
Speaker 3: better my life from a young person's perspective, whether that
Speaker 3: be the infrastructure, the jobs available, all of that stuff.
Speaker 3: But the rat race of it is sometimes like insufferable.
Speaker 3: And but what I say by that is you have
Speaker 3: so many people. So let's say I'm twenty seven years old,
Speaker 3: ninety of my mates are all in London, Okay, they
Speaker 3: all have different jobs, they all to earn different amounts
Speaker 3: of money, they all work a different different amounts. So
Speaker 3: you've got friends, let's say, who are doctors, working disgusting hours,
Speaker 3: earning a third of what some mates who are working,
Speaker 3: let's say, a thirty hour week in a finance job
Speaker 3: where they're getting close to one hundred a year. And
Speaker 3: then you have people that are working, you know, a lot,
Speaker 3: on very shit money, and then everyone's in together in
Speaker 3: the melting pot of comparison of like I should be
Speaker 3: doing this, I can compare myself to that person, and
Speaker 3: that's the biggest negative for it. And I'm very much
Speaker 3: at the point now where I don't know how long
Speaker 3: I can stay in a city like that. I absolutely
Speaker 3: love London, don't get me wrong, and I would happily
Speaker 3: raise a family in certain areas of it because I
Speaker 3: love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's just it is tiring, bro, It's a
Speaker 1: tiring places like that. And that's something that we've heard
Speaker 1: from a lot of people who live here, is that
Speaker 1: London can be your career. You know, there's a lot
Speaker 1: going on, but in the grand scheme of things, you
Speaker 1: might not be your happiest. No, I think I think
Speaker 1: on depression.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like my partner is, He's family are all from
Speaker 3: Bournemouth and that's where went to UNI, and like for me,
Speaker 3: it's got parts of it.
Speaker 1: They're a bit shit.
Speaker 3: But she's from an area called Southbourne, which is a
Speaker 3: kind of bit set back but still.
Speaker 1: Along the beach. It's just like everyone there, like her brother.
Speaker 3: When I go and see him, he just you know,
Speaker 3: goes to his run club on a Sunday, goes gets
Speaker 3: a coffee and then they'll just chill, you know, and
Speaker 3: they've just they just have an easy life and they
Speaker 3: have such a slow life. And I feel like when
Speaker 3: you're in London, you've got a job that's intense, you're
Speaker 3: constantly on this hamster wheel, and you're like, am I
Speaker 3: doing enough? Am I doing enough to live the life
Speaker 3: that I feel like I should have or the life
Speaker 3: that I compare myself to other people having. It's so
Speaker 3: it's such a hard balance to find.
Speaker 2: You can want to slow life.
Speaker 3: I will definitely, I will definitely want a slow life
Speaker 3: at some point. Like for me, I always joke about it,
Speaker 3: but I'd love to just like own a cafe on
Speaker 3: like the beach or like in the like a really
Speaker 3: quiet part. That's really cool. You can make it your
Speaker 3: own and then like make content out of it like
Speaker 3: that would be sick. Imagine like I see people who
Speaker 3: are like, oh, I've opened my dream place and this
Speaker 3: is what I've done it. They've made a whole career
Speaker 3: out of like capturing the content side of things, and
Speaker 3: like for me, obviously, I absolutely adore what I do
Speaker 3: for a job. I'm so lucky to work in the
Speaker 3: industry that I do. But you know, it's one of
Speaker 3: these things that you know, Karen Chip aren't gonna be
Speaker 3: doing this forever, so it's like after that, what's my
Speaker 3: next decision?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it won't be for a while. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that. That's pretty awesome. You should come to
Speaker 1: Perth one day. I want to see more of Australia. Yeah.
Speaker 3: We obversely, it didn't come to Perth last time. I
Speaker 3: Me and Me and Izzy always saying like she's never been,
Speaker 3: but she's like, I want to move to Australia. It's
Speaker 3: like you don't know it, you've never been there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I actually have been there. I would move there, but
Speaker 3: I always.
Speaker 1: Think, why are Australians moving over here?
Speaker 2: Though? I think because we get bored of It's like
Speaker 2: the grass is always green. Now you want to live
Speaker 2: in a busiest city or for travel as wellhouly unless
Speaker 2: you're going to sort of Southeast Asia. Everywhere else is
Speaker 2: just twenty plus hours.
Speaker 1: And there's also a lot of Brits that don't like
Speaker 1: it here and move to Australia. Sure exactly, we're just
Speaker 1: all crossing over. Yeah. I think it's a little bit
Speaker 1: like what you were saying with the grass is always
Speaker 1: green up people, And look, I think we all get
Speaker 1: it at times, like you want to see what else
Speaker 1: is out there. You want to experience something else, because
Speaker 1: you can get mundane and boring what you're doing every day.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people want to move
Speaker 1: not for the sake of moving, but because they think
Speaker 1: it's way better in that place, and then they might
Speaker 1: go there, experience it for a few months and go
Speaker 1: I hate this, I want to go home. So you
Speaker 1: really is it, But you do have to try.
Speaker 2: You can make anything good depending on who you're with
Speaker 2: and what you're doing.
Speaker 3: I also think it's the same about the slow living thing,
Speaker 3: like you can live a slow life, but you can
Speaker 3: make it faster. So like as I said, like, say,
Speaker 3: if you were to start your own business, like a
Speaker 3: friend of mine literallys opened a cafe around the corner
Speaker 3: like next our office, which is so sick. But even him,
Speaker 3: he's living in London, he's around like busy people, but
Speaker 3: he's just running his own cafe, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And it's like I see that and go, that's someone
Speaker 3: that's had a dream. He's had the dream before and
Speaker 3: it's failed elsewhere, and now he's found the right thing
Speaker 3: after trying and trying and trying, and that is fast
Speaker 3: living because he's constantly trying to take a dream off
Speaker 3: the ground.
Speaker 1: But then it once it gets the point.
Speaker 3: Of being fast, it becomes slow again because you can
Speaker 3: slow it down to your knees, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like that a bit.
Speaker 3: With with our job, we obviously like all trying to
Speaker 3: grow the platform as much as we can, particularly up
Speaker 3: Feathers Loaded. Now with you know, building that out as
Speaker 3: a brand, we're trying to now sort of think, right,
Speaker 3: what is the next phase of it when when we
Speaker 3: fully launched We have launched now, but what is next
Speaker 3: for that? So there's always loads of things like floating around.
Speaker 1: People's heads and all this sort of stuff.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I have really liked the idea that one
Speaker 3: day I don't want to raise kids around fast pace
Speaker 3: environment because I grew up in a slow pace environment.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it's important to grasp a slow on.
Speaker 1: Just on what you were saying about your friend who's
Speaker 1: opened that business, do you want to quickly plug it
Speaker 1: running Lake Coffee? But Mike Doxy office, but we're moving anyway,
Speaker 1: so fucking But yeah, running Lake Coffee. Shout out to
Speaker 1: Tom and Sean, good lads. And then just on that,
Speaker 1: I think owning your own thing and being your own
Speaker 1: boss allows you to dictate what speed you live life. Exactly, yeah, exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you're stuck in the rat race, as you call it,
Speaker 1: it can be just draining.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm I'm in a bit of an advantage
Speaker 3: because I work in a creative area. So like everyople
Speaker 3: you like, yeah, of course, man, of course, I absolutely
Speaker 3: love everyone here.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I do, I do.
Speaker 3: No, that could get me in trouble, only joking, yeah,
Speaker 3: so yeah, digging the whole So cut, what was I saying?
Speaker 3: You're Yeah, because I'm around, because I'm around creative people,
Speaker 3: I feel like everyone's got that common ground of being like, right,
Speaker 3: we're here because we want to make that cool stuff,
Speaker 3: and you know, do that sort of fun work, Like
Speaker 3: you want work to be fun, and if your work's fun,
Speaker 3: you enjoy it more. But obviously work being fun doesn't
Speaker 3: necessarily mean that it's not like hard work. So I
Speaker 3: think a lot of everyone understands the kind of the
Speaker 3: give and take when we're all being creatives. But when
Speaker 3: you're watching from the outside, you don't necessarily think that.
Speaker 1: I imagine a lot of people look at the work
Speaker 1: we do and go, I've got life so easy. But
Speaker 1: it's just not like that.
Speaker 3: Everyone everyone works really hard and has a common interest
Speaker 3: of building something big. And when you all have that
Speaker 3: common interest of building something big, you then all as
Speaker 3: a result, put loads of work into it and it
Speaker 3: becomes hard work. So it starts off as something that's
Speaker 3: fun and you know, exciting, and it's hard work exciting
Speaker 3: and just like doing something that you love that you
Speaker 3: love doing. Almost Yeah, I feel like I've explained that horrifically,
Speaker 3: but you know what I mean, it's all good with
Speaker 3: you if you're read the right people that space.
Speaker 1: I want to ask this question, and I want two answers.
Speaker 1: I want what has been your proudest moment so far
Speaker 1: working for this company, and then what has been the
Speaker 1: proudest moment so far outside of work for you?
Speaker 3: Well, the outside of work one's easy. It's like when
Speaker 3: I propose to my partner, which is beautiful Cora. That
Speaker 3: for me was like my moment where I was like, what,
Speaker 3: I sounds really wanky, but I was very Fortunately. I
Speaker 3: met Izzy when I was sixteen, and we've stayed together
Speaker 3: for like almost ten years. And I think not a
Speaker 3: lot of people can say that they've done that relatively
Speaker 3: pain free. We've had the odd like weak break here
Speaker 3: and there, and you've just had an argument and stuff
Speaker 3: like that, because that's UNI, just like everyone goes through
Speaker 3: UNI having those struggles. But that for me is like, Wow,
Speaker 3: we've done it, we're here and we're happy, and like
Speaker 3: that for me was a big proud moment. Also like
Speaker 3: my family seeing that as well, also like this might
Speaker 3: be a bit too deep for this, but I literally
Speaker 3: got to.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 3: My grandma was always really fond of Izzy, and when
Speaker 3: she was alive and she passed away, and my last
Speaker 3: time I visited her, I was doing I was going
Speaker 3: to propose her maybe like a couple weeks later, and
Speaker 3: I told her, I was like, by the way, like
Speaker 3: I'm gonna, I'm gonna marry Izzy and she just like
Speaker 3: bear in mind, was didn't talk to me the whole
Speaker 3: time she was sleeping, eyes lit up, and she was
Speaker 3: like she basically just like grabbed my hand, and that
Speaker 3: for me, I was like, I was like, this is
Speaker 3: crazy because she didn't even fucking talk at that point.
Speaker 3: And then I was like that just I don't know,
Speaker 3: it just felt so right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But like work related achievement, I think coming to Australia
Speaker 3: to see you boys was unreal and that was very
Speaker 3: early days. I think just improving myself as a manager
Speaker 3: as well, like obviously managing different people, like it's incredibly important.
Speaker 3: I think not a lot of people look at management
Speaker 3: skills as something important to have, but it is so
Speaker 3: important to have, and like they are the human beings
Speaker 3: that are going to you for guidance and advice, and
Speaker 3: I think if you can be a good manager, you
Speaker 3: can be a good person as well. So yeah, I
Speaker 3: was like trying to learn learn that and just sort
Speaker 3: of continuing trying to level up The podcast but yeah,
Speaker 3: I'd say probably come into Australia was a proud one
Speaker 3: because I saw the direct impact of what the pods have,
Speaker 3: what it can have on people, and obviously going to
Speaker 3: Ireland will be.
Speaker 1: A similar experience.
Speaker 3: Actual podcast why He's doing the Aaron ramser one was
Speaker 3: cool because I was like, I just moved into my
Speaker 3: new flat which I bought with Izy, and that same
Speaker 3: day I got the keys. We went and filmed that
Speaker 3: part and I was like, I've just interviewed a Premier
Speaker 3: League football I'm not interviewed, but done a podcast with
Speaker 3: a Premier League footballer and got the keys in my place,
Speaker 3: which is pretty sick.
Speaker 1: In the same special, that's.
Speaker 2: So cool talking about our things you've been doing. You've
Speaker 2: been on the running grind since we met you. How
Speaker 2: did you get into that? Take us just quickly. Congratulations,
Speaker 2: you're looking phenomena.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 3: I'm definitely I always have this mad body this morning.
Speaker 3: I was always thinking I can get but yeah, no,
Speaker 3: it's been good. I've I actually started when I was
Speaker 3: in third year of UNI. I had like one of
Speaker 3: these mini little changeover spells. I was like February twenty
Speaker 3: No twenty nineteen and I was on a really shit
Speaker 3: bit of work experience, and I was just like, I'm
Speaker 3: boor I need to do something, And I sung up
Speaker 3: for a half marathon there. That was my first one
Speaker 3: i'd done. But then obviously between their left UNI Covid
Speaker 3: got really fat over Covid I think. I think in
Speaker 3: the second lockdown, I was having like two three Chinese
Speaker 3: as a week.
Speaker 1: But yeah, anyway, and then Yeah.
Speaker 3: Just picked it back up when I had done all
Speaker 3: this like gym stuff, but I was like, I don't
Speaker 3: really enjoy going to the gym that much, so I
Speaker 3: was just like, I'll pick back the running. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: got easy into it and then just sort of always
Speaker 3: I know that I can sort of push myself of
Speaker 3: it and be good at it, so I just keep
Speaker 3: keep doing it.
Speaker 1: I've been loving the running vlogs too, like it gives
Speaker 1: more of like a I guess, a personal element to running,
Speaker 1: and like you look at I guess athlete influencers and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Yeah, and a lot of them are
Speaker 1: just like, fucking do this, fucking do that. I'm so good,
Speaker 1: I'm so good at this whatever whatever, if you do this,
Speaker 1: you'll be like me, You'll look like me. But you're
Speaker 1: more authentic with how I do it.
Speaker 3: I feel like if you're gonna, if you're gonna share
Speaker 3: content like that, you shouldn't try and not be yourself.
Speaker 3: Like obviously I try and make my content look good,
Speaker 3: like you're always gonna try and edit it in a
Speaker 3: way that makes it look cool.
Speaker 1: But like I'm yeah, I was just trying be somewhat relatable,
Speaker 1: I guess. And you've built a community on people that enjoy.
Speaker 3: Made little broadcast channel, which is sick. It's so funny though.
Speaker 3: The Internet is just a funny place, like I find nice.
Speaker 1: My hate. The hate that I get goes in real cycles.
Speaker 1: It's so weird.
Speaker 3: So like one month I'll be like getting mad love
Speaker 3: and the next everyone's like, fuck this guy. I hate
Speaker 3: the fact that he's like he's got an ego. People
Speaker 3: think that whenever if I'm talking more, I've got an ego.
Speaker 3: So like if I talk Loads in an episode, they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: he's making it about him. It's like, well, no, funny enough.
Speaker 3: I just Chip wasn't there, so I had to do
Speaker 3: a public cow where I had to speak to him Loads.
Speaker 3: So sorry, lads can't really do much fromout. It's a
Speaker 3: funny one.
Speaker 1: What are some of the worst hate comments you've received.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read this one.
Speaker 3: Because I sent it to one of my mates who's
Speaker 3: like really good at finding people and like he can
Speaker 3: find their like backstory. So I was like, I was
Speaker 3: gonna make it's going to make a TikTok out of
Speaker 3: this because I she I found it hilarious as starts
Speaker 3: because it's such a fucking weird message. But I was
Speaker 3: also going to like try and like find this guy
Speaker 3: to like just out him on social media just because
Speaker 3: A I think it would have banged and be like
Speaker 3: he deserves to be out of for this, so hugo.
Speaker 3: It was a It was a TikTok message request, okay,
Speaker 3: which is a rare one to get.
Speaker 1: I don't delve into those often because it can be
Speaker 1: fucking scary. I never really get them.
Speaker 3: On TikTok's affair my community on TikTok's very weird, Like
Speaker 3: I posted like a wholesome video like that being together
Speaker 3: with Izzy since I was sixteen, and literally like the
Speaker 3: first comment was just negative.
Speaker 1: I was just like, right, well, this is the audience
Speaker 1: ONNG I have on here, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And that's it.
Speaker 3: Instagram's at Nicer Proddy. From the bottom of my heart,
Speaker 3: I think I will batter the fuck out of you
Speaker 3: and may and maintain a full blown boner. However, you
Speaker 3: seem like a niky bloke I'd love to meet.
Speaker 1: Go fuck yourself. So there's a lot to unpackage.
Speaker 3: I have something going on in dep He just kept going,
Speaker 3: so he said it's first he wants to from the
Speaker 3: bottom of his heart, so he truly means it.
Speaker 1: He would batter me fine. Normally people say from the
Speaker 1: bottom of my heart, and then it is something positive.
Speaker 1: Sneaky bloke. Does that mean like a flog or something?
Speaker 1: Niaky bloke means like you're just like a loser. That's
Speaker 1: one we can use for josh Ronni You're essentially saying
Speaker 1: like it's God, okay, yeah, describe it, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: But yeah, like them sort of hate comments crack me up.
Speaker 3: I think the main one that I like that bothers
Speaker 3: me a bit. I guess bothers me because I don't
Speaker 3: want to give them airtime. But it's when people are
Speaker 3: thinking I'm doing something from a bad place. So it's like,
Speaker 3: I obviously don't care what you think because realistically, like
Speaker 3: that's fine. The only people that really matter is Cow
Speaker 3: and Chip in this situation. Like if they would say
Speaker 3: to me you're doing something wrong, like do it differently,
Speaker 3: I'd be like cool, whatever. But it's when there's people
Speaker 3: that are going out of their way to tell you
Speaker 3: how much they think you're doing a bad job. It's like,
Speaker 3: there's not many things you get back in this world,
Speaker 3: like from this internet stuff.
Speaker 1: A lot of it is.
Speaker 3: Positive feedback in terms of that's the stuff that really
Speaker 3: makes it tick. If we're getting positive feedback about things,
Speaker 3: that's what makes you feel better about a situation. That
Speaker 3: what makes you feel like you're doing a good job.
Speaker 3: But when it's like people who are genuinely going out
Speaker 3: of their way to give you negative feedback, it's very disheartening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's something we speak about this a lot.
Speaker 2: I don't understand if you dislike the content personally, I
Speaker 2: just don't interact with it, so I never understand the
Speaker 2: negative comment on it.
Speaker 1: And the more you interact with content, the more the
Speaker 1: algorithm goes like this person, So then you're going to
Speaker 1: see that person you dislike more and more.
Speaker 3: When we had ab on, have you guys seen ab
Speaker 3: the English lad. So I had him on broadcast and
Speaker 3: he was talking about like bad TikTok content, how that
Speaker 3: always does well, And it's almost, like he described it,
Speaker 3: it's like a car crash.
Speaker 1: You see a car crash. Yeah, don't want to look away.
Speaker 1: You are just going to keep looking at it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's like, why would you why would you
Speaker 3: want to make good content if that's the stuff that's
Speaker 3: doing well. I mean, I always want to make good content.
Speaker 3: I've said this to cal before, like I'll always want
Speaker 3: to do stuff that's giving value to someone. Like that's
Speaker 3: if I'm if I'm doing something it's doing badly, but
Speaker 3: I know it's giving people value. I'd much rather do
Speaker 3: that than something that's just feels disingenuous, do you know
Speaker 3: what I mean?
Speaker 1: But we know what we do affects people in a
Speaker 1: positive way. Some people, you know, if you get fucked
Speaker 1: over and who's punching whatever? Whatever? Yeah, we'll talk about
Speaker 1: that in a second, because we have some horror stories
Speaker 1: about some submissions and the way people have handled being
Speaker 1: on the internet. Actually the fu, let's do it right now.
Speaker 1: So who's punching something? We We actually had sent in
Speaker 1: a very long time ago from someone that listened to
Speaker 1: the show, right. It wasn't actually our idea idea. Originally
Speaker 1: one of our listeners centered in and said this would
Speaker 1: be cool. We think you'd be good at this, Okay,
Speaker 1: So then we trialed it and we put our own
Speaker 1: spin on what they said, right, so we had the photos.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows how it works, right, So we did it,
Speaker 1: and then the first few on TikTok went Crazy went
Speaker 1: really well, and then people started to get frustrated when
Speaker 1: we said that they are punching right, and just I
Speaker 1: want to add that it's an entertainment thing and it
Speaker 1: always has been. It's always been We've always taken the
Speaker 1: piss and we want to show everyone. You know, we
Speaker 1: can like have fun with our listeners anyway, So sometimes
Speaker 1: we'll do it. People won't like the reaction, and then
Speaker 1: they'll email us and say, hey, can you take it down?
Speaker 1: And we were very good with doing that. The first view.
Speaker 2: We took it down because it's like understandable, maybe you
Speaker 2: didn't realize how many people would see it, or you know,
Speaker 2: they're getting criticism for the first time of their life
Speaker 2: or something, even though they did ask for it, right,
Speaker 2: And then we're like, okay, we gave them the benefit
Speaker 2: of the doubt. Let's try and make it a little
Speaker 2: bit more professional. So then we were like, okay, we'll
Speaker 2: create an email for it. So you send it into
Speaker 2: the email you and then we send you back a
Speaker 2: consent form, right, so we get both of the people
Speaker 2: to sign it. Because a lot of the early ones,
Speaker 2: you know, the bloke would be like, oh my wife,
Speaker 2: like she really hated that video, can you please take that?
Speaker 1: There was actually a marriage that broke down because of it.
Speaker 2: Was like, yeah, so then we have to private the video.
Speaker 1: So you broke up a marriage from whose they know,
Speaker 1: we didn't break them up.
Speaker 2: They couldn't handle what we said, Yeah, And I don't
Speaker 2: think I think it's more they can't handle what the
Speaker 2: public say exactly.
Speaker 1: Sometimes like we're pretty I think we're pretty good about
Speaker 1: it in the fact that we're not trying to offend
Speaker 1: the people that are involved. We're trying to entertain our audience, right,
Speaker 1: So we do that. And then we had a few
Speaker 1: especially this this married couple, so they were freshly married
Speaker 1: and they actually sent in photos of them on their
Speaker 1: wedding day. You never want to be told anything on
Speaker 1: your wedding day in a negative way. That was brave
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, very brave of them. And like, I
Speaker 1: think the big thing that I've found out through doing
Speaker 1: it is that people who submit these things quite often
Speaker 1: don't understand how hateful the internet is until it's turned
Speaker 1: on you. Yeah. So A Dylan has this quote, He's like,
Speaker 1: people don't know what they are, So like people don't
Speaker 1: know how they're viewed in the world. They have a
Speaker 1: view of themselves, right, I kind of get you, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I kind of get you beg for it.
Speaker 2: Like we have people who maybe will email seven times,
Speaker 2: get picked and then be like, oh, what the hell
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, Like, but you've like begged for this.
Speaker 1: It's weird. I don't know. I think with that whole
Speaker 1: perception thing, I completely get you. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But all I will say is sometimes people have some
Speaker 3: sort of character online. Let's say so for example, and
Speaker 3: now this is not me, this is not me just
Speaker 3: making it about myself here. But if someone will say
Speaker 3: to me he's got such an ego, I know for
Speaker 3: a fact that I don't have an ego, and my
Speaker 3: friends know that I don't have an ego because I've
Speaker 3: never been someone to like hold myself into that high
Speaker 3: regard to that level. But like that sort of comment
Speaker 3: when you know it's not true and then someone's kind
Speaker 3: of just pied pipering in the comments essentially, I can
Speaker 3: see how that would be frustrating. But when it's just
Speaker 3: like a normal, like non creator, let's say, who sent
Speaker 3: these pictures in there, I can kind of potentially see
Speaker 3: what you're saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Now, the reason we brought the consent form
Speaker 1: in is to say, okay, you two have both agreed
Speaker 1: to be involved. And then there's also the fact that
Speaker 1: we have boxes that you tick saying there is a
Speaker 1: high chance that you will be judged for entertainment purposes.
Speaker 1: This is for people to laugh at y right now.
Speaker 1: These people go through that stage and then I think
Speaker 1: that some of them are just so excited to be
Speaker 1: featured that any public perception and the public's views get
Speaker 1: thrown out the window. And then once it hits them,
Speaker 1: then they're in shock. And we've received so many hate comments,
Speaker 1: We've had videos that have you know, we might regret posting,
Speaker 1: and that's just part of the business, right of course,
Speaker 1: you want to be authentic. So they're going to make
Speaker 1: these exactly and when you make those mistakes, it does
Speaker 1: have an effect, right, So, like you can be rattled
Speaker 1: and like there's been times where I've struggled to go
Speaker 1: to bed because I'm like, oh, fuck, that didn't come
Speaker 1: across well, or that hate comment. You know, it actually
Speaker 1: does hurt and all these things. But at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, it's not that deep.
Speaker 2: No, But I also majority of couples are very good
Speaker 2: with it. You know, we're talking about ten.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think the ultimate thing is like you're
Speaker 3: lying if you say you hate comment doesn't bother you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it just has to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're a human being getting told something by someone
Speaker 3: who you don't know, who's gone out of their way
Speaker 3: to put energy into a keyboard to say something nasty about.
Speaker 2: It's always, you know, ten followed account.
Speaker 3: Always it's obvious. But as you said, that's the kind
Speaker 3: of like troll culture that we have in the world.
Speaker 3: I've personally, I've never left a hate comment on anyone's
Speaker 3: video unless they are being an absolute cunt. I think
Speaker 3: that I'm allowed to say unless there's being an absolute
Speaker 3: prick and they've just like basically outed themselves as like
Speaker 3: a very nasty person.
Speaker 1: I've never cooled someone out online or anything like that. Well,
Speaker 1: there's no benefit in doing it. It's net negative. Yeah,
Speaker 1: interesting one. Yeah, well, like we're pretty lucky, like in general,
Speaker 1: we've learnt how to deal with them because we've been
Speaker 1: doing it.
Speaker 2: For so long, saying things the right way.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I also think this is something that I'm really keen on,
Speaker 3: which I'm so I'm so buzzing that I've done managed
Speaker 3: to do on Instagram, which has been great. I've managed
Speaker 3: to create curate, how you say the word. My following
Speaker 3: on Instagram is so like positive for me. They're engaged
Speaker 3: with the stuff that I'm doing and they like you
Speaker 3: know that, you know, the bettering my self content and
Speaker 3: posting out fitness and.
Speaker 2: The positive community exactly.
Speaker 3: Whereas if you go on to TikTok, I get a
Speaker 3: lot of people just you they follow based off like
Speaker 3: a viral video, or they'll follow based off the fact that, like,
Speaker 3: you know, I work with YouTubers that they watch, and
Speaker 3: then I'll do something that represents me as a person
Speaker 3: because I can't lie. I have no interest in being
Speaker 3: known for someone be provocative. You know, I may say
Speaker 3: the odd stupid thing on the pod, like, but that's
Speaker 3: just for me because I'm always been like that with
Speaker 3: my mates. I'll always say dumb shit in the group chat,
Speaker 3: like that's a weird take or something like that. That's
Speaker 3: just that's just the way it is. So I'm not
Speaker 3: changing myself like that. But yeah, you're you're you're putting
Speaker 3: content out there and you're like, right, well, this is
Speaker 3: the content I want to make. When it's not received, well,
Speaker 3: it's just like it's just disheartening in.
Speaker 1: It it is. Yeah, I think receiving hate comments as
Speaker 1: well is so unnatural for a human to receive like normally,
Speaker 1: you know, you go back one hundred years, it was
Speaker 1: all face to face. Thirty years it was all faces
Speaker 1: intent to hit them with a boulder, ye, Like in person,
Speaker 1: it's never really to that extent, you know, a negative comment. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wonder what a person who's like born to be
Speaker 1: a troll would have been like that in the fifties
Speaker 1: when they're like yeah, because like.
Speaker 2: They had interestinct.
Speaker 3: Human instinct to hate on something obviously is amplified by
Speaker 3: social media and has probably got more you know, as
Speaker 3: I said, like pie pipers along the route with it
Speaker 3: because of the amplification on social.
Speaker 2: Media, and you get to be a part of the community,
Speaker 2: like you find others who hate the same.
Speaker 3: But to have that personality trait where you're going to
Speaker 3: go out of your way and provide some with like
Speaker 3: a negative thing, that's something that wouldn't have just been
Speaker 3: developed since the social media age.
Speaker 1: People will have that in their human instinct. So, like,
Speaker 1: what are they? What do they do?
Speaker 2: I think it was it would probably be male like
Speaker 2: letters hate letters.
Speaker 1: If we're going back hundreds and hundreds of years, I'm
Speaker 1: thinking they're just like the gossipers of the town. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the ship talkers. They like, oh did you see so
Speaker 1: and so did that? Like I reckon they were just
Speaker 1: the ship talking gossipers. Yeah, no, for sure, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Here's a question. We went to the pub with Rufus
Speaker 1: after we recorded with him, and we're having a little
Speaker 1: chat about what is the worst way to die? Right now,
Speaker 1: you've probably had thisscussion before. However, we had a few
Speaker 1: different takes at the table, so I just want you
Speaker 1: to have a little think what would be the worst
Speaker 1: way to die? I think.
Speaker 3: Drowning, but not the actual drowning casts because apparently when
Speaker 3: you drown it's very like peaceful way to go, but
Speaker 3: the moment where you realize I'm fucked here and getting out.
Speaker 3: But I think, without question, the worst way to die
Speaker 3: would be getting stuck in a cave. Yeah, like you
Speaker 3: know those people that those caves, because there's no way
Speaker 3: you're just slowly dying.
Speaker 1: What you said, one, getting burnt alive would be crazy,
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be good. No, nah, that sensation. But I
Speaker 1: think it be a lot quicker than getting stuck in
Speaker 1: a case suffocating.
Speaker 2: I agree with that.
Speaker 1: I was thinking like shark attack and stuff, but it
Speaker 1: could be quick. But when it happens, right, let's say
Speaker 1: a great takes half your body, you're in so much
Speaker 1: shock sometimes you don't even know what you've bled out
Speaker 1: instantly as well, or you look down you've lost half
Speaker 1: your body and you actually can't feel the pain.
Speaker 3: No, such, I think it will be almost painless. That's
Speaker 3: an awesome way to die, and I think that's quite
Speaker 3: cool to like be. No, like, if you're going to die,
Speaker 3: to be killed by sharks, pretty sick way to go. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like you are known as the guy that was killed
Speaker 3: by a sharks.
Speaker 2: Like nature took you out. But yeah, it's pretty gangs.
Speaker 3: But also as well, I do have sympathy in some
Speaker 3: respect when it's like, you know, you're scubad eyking or something,
Speaker 3: but you are in their territory.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love sharks. I used to have such a fascination.
Speaker 1: Have you ever swam with them? No, it's I would
Speaker 1: love to cage dive. Yeah, absolutely love to do that.
Speaker 1: You could do that in Australia. Yeah, we have a
Speaker 1: lot of sharks. Is it with Sundays around that?
Speaker 2: No, it's apparently I've never been to the Sundays.
Speaker 1: Yeah, elite. What's the most crocky area nor Yeah, yeah, northeast.
Speaker 1: There's a place called Cans. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Cans is a beautiful place. It's a tropical because it's
Speaker 1: closer to the equator than a lot of the other
Speaker 1: parts of Australia. So tropical environment, beautiful beaches, trees, but
Speaker 1: they have river crocodiles and they have saltwater crocodiles too,
Speaker 1: like longer noses and stuff, haven't they honestly no idea,
Speaker 1: Like we actually haven't had much experience except this was
Speaker 1: one the wild crop I have. They're not in I
Speaker 1: haven't candle Like, what's the most you've seen? Because when
Speaker 1: we saw no snakes as spiders. Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: Australia gets a really bad wrap for the animals and
Speaker 1: like how dangerous and scary they are, but you don't
Speaker 1: actually come into contact with them much at all.
Speaker 2: Like we've I've seen a snake or two at his house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like crazy because I'm a bit more rural, Like
Speaker 1: you'll get a few snakes, but I reckon in my
Speaker 1: twenty four years of living at the house, I do.
Speaker 1: I've probably seen seven snakes in twenty four years.
Speaker 2: Scary thing of the other magpies that Yeah, during it
Speaker 2: it's called swooping season.
Speaker 1: Just a little black and white birds.
Speaker 2: They come down in Australia and they go at you.
Speaker 2: It's really it's horrific.
Speaker 1: Is that is that when they try and neck your
Speaker 1: jewelry and that they're trying to like take your.
Speaker 2: Honestly, it's the scariest. It's one of the scariest things ever.
Speaker 1: That's actually that's the scariest animal in Australia.
Speaker 2: For fact, that's because you're not going to really come
Speaker 2: across the crocodile in day to day life ever in
Speaker 2: any of the major cities unless you're up.
Speaker 1: No austral Americans have it worse with crocs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they have way more variety of dangerous animals
Speaker 2: that they could come into contact with.
Speaker 1: I wonder why, like what came about for Australia to
Speaker 1: have the negative I guess our insects, but black widows
Speaker 1: and that. Yeah, but again, but I don't know if
Speaker 1: I've ever seen one like we've we've got what are
Speaker 1: the big ones, like the huntsmen again, huntsmen spiders are
Speaker 1: pretty harmless, but they're quite a.
Speaker 2: Bit small ones that are the dangerous ones anyway.
Speaker 1: With spiders, guys, ever seen or been on the beach
Speaker 1: when there's been a shock like flag? Yeah? Yeah, And
Speaker 1: have you know anyone who's come close to a shock?
Speaker 2: I don't know anyone personally. Obviously every summer like maybe
Speaker 2: one to three attacks happen, but people don't People don't die,
Speaker 2: though sometimes they do, like last year maybe was it
Speaker 2: one or two? I think that girl died last year
Speaker 2: in like our river. So but it's still yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1: Like one, there'd be a couple of year or something
Speaker 1: like that. It's not a really really bad issue. And
Speaker 1: like you said, you're going into their territory. Yeah, on
Speaker 1: the West coast of Australia. The amount of sharks is incredible. Like,
Speaker 1: I've got this shark app called Dorsal Right, fuck, no
Speaker 1: free promotion, but Dorsal it shows every single shark sighting
Speaker 1: on the West Coast or actually on any coast. Right.
Speaker 1: I don't go to the beach too often. I don't
Speaker 1: live close to the beach. I'm not even really interested
Speaker 1: in sharks, but I just find it fascinating knowing where
Speaker 1: they are, right because they're all tagged ones, aren't they Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Or they might be untagged ones that have just been
Speaker 1: sighted and then you can log it on the app. Right,
Speaker 1: So there are hundreds and hundreds at a time. So
Speaker 1: you're on the app and you're like, oh, there's a
Speaker 1: shark at pretty much every beach, but it's very well monitored. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the chances of them attacking you is probably quite slim.
Speaker 1: I'm going to download that up because that sounds so
Speaker 1: sicky and awful. I think there's a few apps like
Speaker 1: that as well. But yeah, No, the wildlife in Australia
Speaker 1: is pretty incredible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very Yeah, the variety is elite. It's just
Speaker 2: the danger of it is overblown for sure. Yeah, particularly
Speaker 2: when you're in the cities, and like you said, the
Speaker 2: scariest and most dangerous things are often the smallest. Yeah, so,
Speaker 2: or they're not necessarily scary, but they are the most dangerous.
Speaker 2: So you've got a lot of these spiders that are
Speaker 2: extremely venomous, like this tool, and they just have like
Speaker 2: white on their back or like red on their back,
Speaker 2: and that just means danger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, something looks just a bit colorful. I remember when
Speaker 1: I was in I would have been maybe nine years old,
Speaker 1: and I was at school and one of my best
Speaker 1: friend's mum came to school with her whole arm like
Speaker 1: inflamed and covered like wrapped in glad wrap or something
Speaker 1: like that, and she was bitten by a red back spider.
Speaker 1: And that's a black widow, isn't it.
Speaker 3: No, the red I always thought the red back and
Speaker 3: were the same because he's just not a name, Rick
Speaker 3: Scott red Back.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I wouldn't know, but yeah, she was
Speaker 1: bitten by one and was affected for like a month. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I don't know. I've been pretty lucky, especially living
Speaker 1: in an area where there's lots.
Speaker 2: Of animals, but in Australia, like if you get bitten
Speaker 2: by anything, you won't die unless you're like in the
Speaker 2: real middle happened to any sort of hospital.
Speaker 1: GP And jellyfish, Actually they're really dangerous jellyfish. They are
Speaker 1: the most pointless creatures, jellyfish at the beach, blue bottles.
Speaker 1: Yet what do they do? How do they what do
Speaker 1: they eat and stuff like? I don't know, but they
Speaker 1: are honestly the most fucking pointless thing in the world. Actually,
Speaker 1: let's go through the most pointless animals, like ones that
Speaker 1: just shouldn't like there. I really hate ants, but apparently
Speaker 1: they are massive for the world, Like they do things
Speaker 1: in Australia. Yeah, definitely, they do things underground. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure we'll have to get a scientist to fucking help,
Speaker 1: but like someone someone, the ant community underground do a
Speaker 1: lot for the world apparently.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't know, honestly, trying to think of other
Speaker 3: really pointless things. I mean, as we say, caving the
Speaker 3: great thing about it, you don't have to do it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: well then people die doing it.
Speaker 1: Skydiving too, No skydiving, I can see skydiving safe. Like
Speaker 1: rock climbing.
Speaker 2: I get the thrill, the like the feeling of achievement
Speaker 2: when you get to the top. Yeah, caving just like
Speaker 2: going down base jumping.
Speaker 1: What the fucky?
Speaker 2: I love watching those videos.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like watching the video, so I guess that
Speaker 3: provides me entertainment. But yeah, your metatareandalm Rush must be insane.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I've had a skydiving voucher for a birthday for
Speaker 1: about four years. I want to do it with someone
Speaker 1: like it was a good present, like Mum spent a
Speaker 1: lot of money on it, and you can buy it
Speaker 1: for someone and is it not got any date? I
Speaker 1: just keep extending it like for no extra cost. Oh nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I had it since I was like nineteen. It's
Speaker 1: been five years.
Speaker 2: For grace, you guys can do it together.
Speaker 1: She doesn't want to do it. Yeah yeah, maybe would
Speaker 1: you do it?
Speaker 2: Possibly? I'm open to it.
Speaker 1: Pop some money trying to get some other pointless things
Speaker 1: and not do it right pointless things in life, like
Speaker 1: or just pointless, just like the Pointless Things podcast. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: well I don't.
Speaker 2: I think paying for parking I just hate it.
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean that is just in especially That's one
Speaker 1: thing that's a little bit different, especially like for people
Speaker 1: who live in London, is you're always catching the tube
Speaker 1: or you're on the train, so like you're not having
Speaker 1: to drive around as much. In Perth public transport system
Speaker 1: is average, so like most people have cars and are driving. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: one thing that Lewis always says. I do not agree
Speaker 1: with this.
Speaker 3: He thinks fire alarms are pointless. Fire alarms, Yeah, because
Speaker 3: he said, you never hear a fire alarm when there's
Speaker 3: an actual fire, and when you hear the fire alarm
Speaker 3: for a fire, probably is going to be too late.
Speaker 1: How many has he experienced? I said, you've never experienced
Speaker 1: a fire.
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, I know. That's why fire alarms are pointless.
Speaker 3: I think he also claimed that crash helmets, for the
Speaker 3: same logic, are pointless because like you only need one
Speaker 3: when you crash, and you when you crash, you're probably
Speaker 3: not going to survive it or something like that.
Speaker 1: He's just a fucking idiot.
Speaker 3: I was like, you're just literally answering your own question,
Speaker 3: Like the helmet is needed when you crash because you're
Speaker 3: probably going to survive if you're wearing a helmet.
Speaker 2: That is what fire alarms are pointless. I've never heard
Speaker 2: that before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, question, both of you you're in a long term relationships,
Speaker 3: either of you going to pop the question soon.
Speaker 1: We can't expose that on the podcast. I can tell
Speaker 1: me how long you've been with them for.
Speaker 2: I've been like seven years.
Speaker 1: Seven years yeah, just over three okay yeah right fuck yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean getting on a bit, getting on a bit, yeah,
Speaker 1: in no rush.
Speaker 2: However, in the mind, yes, yeah, one hundred percent, Like
Speaker 2: I'm definitely said on it.
Speaker 1: In my mind. Yeah, in my mind. It's an exciting
Speaker 1: thing to think about because it like, I still feel
Speaker 1: like a kid, but we are growing up. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: are you guys? I'm twenty four, twenty four.
Speaker 2: Yeah, see, I'm definitely like a full adult now.
Speaker 1: I just feel eighteen.
Speaker 2: I think I don't know when I'm going to feel
Speaker 2: like a proper adult.
Speaker 1: I think there was an author or someone that had
Speaker 1: a quote, and I don't remember it exactly, but it
Speaker 1: was like, you always feel like a child, even when
Speaker 1: you're an adult, Like you're like you've always got that
Speaker 1: inner child.
Speaker 2: Do you feel twenty seven or what you do? You
Speaker 2: feel what you thought twenty seven would be when you're
Speaker 2: like eighteen. That's what I don't understand.
Speaker 3: When you're like fifteen years old and you think of
Speaker 3: a twenty seven year old, I think someone seems so old.
Speaker 3: I think of someone to have it all together, gening,
Speaker 3: you've got kids, like lives like a four bedroom house. Yes,
Speaker 3: like not the thing is as well. I think UNI
Speaker 3: extends youth for bit. No, did you guys go to UNI?
Speaker 2: Well yeah, at the moment, I switched courses. I just
Speaker 2: do it like part time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just went for a year. I did exercise
Speaker 1: sports science. Didn't really enjoy it.
Speaker 2: Started this nice but uniculture and perts like you don't
Speaker 2: live there. We talked about that with Rufous, like go
Speaker 2: to one near your house, you drive there.
Speaker 1: He was talking about university in England and the fact
Speaker 1: that there's a fair bit of social life, like you
Speaker 1: can go out with your people from UNI, and I
Speaker 1: suppose you can in Perth, but it's just not the thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah with the thing, So just saying UNI extends
Speaker 3: your childhood so much. Yeah, you still feel like kid
Speaker 3: at UNI.
Speaker 1: You just can drink.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm making correct decisions. That's literally the only difference.
Speaker 3: But yeah, high school would have been better if it
Speaker 3: was a bit more like that. Yeah, we loved our
Speaker 3: time though.
Speaker 1: Yeah high school was good. Yeah seven years ago. That's
Speaker 1: horrible to think you're probably get close to ten year
Speaker 1: anniversary this December.
Speaker 2: Well ten years since you graduated, right close will be?
Speaker 1: It will be next summer. Okay, yeah, okay, have you
Speaker 1: got a reunion planned or you think they will be?
Speaker 3: Well, I don't really speak too many people from my
Speaker 3: college because, like, my college was like one that had
Speaker 3: people from all all over the country. It was boarding,
Speaker 3: you know, I was like a local kid. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm most my mates for like all friends from my
Speaker 3: area that I kind of knew outside of school, or
Speaker 3: like ones that I met when I was like at
Speaker 3: young school and then we just stayed friends, do you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And then obviously good group of
Speaker 3: mates from UNI as well, so there's a mixture of
Speaker 3: those two.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I've got two more questions for you. One is,
Speaker 1: what are some more what are some things that we
Speaker 1: can say while we're here. We've got a few more
Speaker 1: days left. Okay, right, how are you guys foodies? Yeah?
Speaker 1: A little bit.
Speaker 3: What's your kind of because if I want to make
Speaker 3: some recommendations, I want to know what sort of food
Speaker 3: you like first.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty open to be fair, Like I would say
Speaker 2: my favorite cuisine is probably like tire food in general.
Speaker 2: I like Italian, but a really good.
Speaker 3: Tie and I was caught but okay, now you might
Speaker 3: share your head at this. Obviously my partner she's vegan. Ye,
Speaker 3: there's a vegan China in ols Vegan tie in ELL's Court,
Speaker 3: this lovely little family rung place. I'm trying to remember
Speaker 3: the exact name of it.
Speaker 1: I can't remember it.
Speaker 3: But if you type in vegan tye Elle's Court, anything
Speaker 3: but okay, non vegan, that's that's just the Elle's Court show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, give us anything, any I believe strongly.
Speaker 3: The best burger in London is a place called the
Speaker 3: Plimpseul which is in Finsbury Park and it is I
Speaker 3: think an eleven pound nine or eleven pound burger.
Speaker 1: Comes on its own.
Speaker 3: They don't do French fries or anything, but they have
Speaker 3: loads of small plates so you can get like their
Speaker 3: crispy potatoes as a side. They also do like sides
Speaker 3: of like sausages, things like that. It's a really nice pub,
Speaker 3: great guinness as well. Yeah, that is the best burger
Speaker 3: I've had in London, closely followed by Supermanova in Soho.
Speaker 3: I thought it was pretty good. So if you like
Speaker 3: you smash Burgers go there.
Speaker 1: Also.
Speaker 3: I talked about this on the pod. I think, honestly
Speaker 3: the best part of London is the food and like
Speaker 3: alcohol culture and stuff like that. There's so many great
Speaker 3: food and drink spots around. Tomorrow night, we're catching up
Speaker 3: with someone who we haven't seen a very long time.
Speaker 3: So we never met this person, but we've known this
Speaker 3: person from a time. So she's from Australia and she's
Speaker 3: actually living over here. Now, where is somewhere that we
Speaker 3: could catch up with her? Like, is there one of
Speaker 3: your favorite pub drinks? Dinner and drinks?
Speaker 1: I reckon go to this place that I said, well,
Speaker 1: I do what part along? Is this the typeost? No,
Speaker 1: the plim soul.
Speaker 3: She lives, but the soul, honestly, it's unreal. Put it's
Speaker 3: very hyped. So you should be on a Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Have you boys been there before? No? No, it's very
Speaker 1: very hyped. Very I think Liam might have because Liam
Speaker 1: lives in that area. But yeah, so like that, that's
Speaker 1: that's really good.
Speaker 3: There's also some like great other pubs as well, Like
Speaker 3: one that I really like is uh There's You've got
Speaker 3: the Faltering fall Back if you want like a nice
Speaker 3: outside drink that's in that sort of air.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3: There's you guys are kind of a different side of
Speaker 3: London to where Earl's Court is kind of there Stamford
Speaker 3: Bridge though, yeah it is. Yeah, So there's trying to
Speaker 3: think of the pubs that Hollywood Arms is really nice.
Speaker 1: Been there, been there? Oh you can go to James
Speaker 1: Blunts Pub, Fox and Pheasant.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really nice and it's like really old school,
Speaker 3: really great food apparently as well. I've not eaten. They're
Speaker 3: just drunk there. Yeah, that's that's supposed to be good.
Speaker 3: Trying to think about other places that I've been in
Speaker 3: West London. They rarely venture that side of London. I
Speaker 3: can't okay, I'll only ever go for a Chelsea game really,
Speaker 3: but yeah, things to do, I mean, I personally believe
Speaker 3: the nicest park in London this place called Clissold Park.
Speaker 3: But again it's just a park in it it's just
Speaker 3: the way I have good grass though, because yeah it does.
Speaker 3: We went to Hyde Park, yes, Brown bro yeah bit Ship.
Speaker 3: Hyde Park is Ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to think of other things to do.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of on the spot, you know with that.
Speaker 1: That's all right, you can send us a message, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: if anything comes to mind. But yeah, there's lots of
Speaker 1: good coffee spots, lots of good food spots.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Have you guys ever played paddle? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I actually I've never played it, but everybody taken open
Speaker 3: up everywhere now and they've just open paddle everywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, should we do that tomorrow morning? You can do
Speaker 1: that activity. I love paddle. Yeah. London's a weird one,
Speaker 1: isn't it.
Speaker 3: Like if you wanted to go and have like, you know,
Speaker 3: the classic experience of going for a curry on brick
Speaker 3: lay and you could do that and that would be great,
Speaker 3: or like, you know, if you wanted to be really.
Speaker 1: Touristy, like you can also do that. It's just I
Speaker 1: don't know, It's it's kind of hard.
Speaker 2: To such a massive it's really.
Speaker 1: So many different people. So I guess if you really
Speaker 1: wanted to, you can find whatever you're after. Yeah, no, absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah all right. Last question of the show. We asked
Speaker 1: all our guests this question, how would you like to
Speaker 1: be remembered?
Speaker 3: So I want I want to be remembered by being
Speaker 3: just a nice bloke. Yeah, but also doing the content
Speaker 3: I'm making is making an impact on someone's life. Let's say,
Speaker 3: whether it be through the podcast, getting more insightful people
Speaker 3: on you know, whether it be through my own content,
Speaker 3: inspiring people to like, you know, make a little change
Speaker 3: or something like that, even if it's nothing, not a
Speaker 3: big change, it's a little change, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And then yeah, just I want to hopefully eventually be
Speaker 3: a good dad. I guess as deep as that sounds,
Speaker 3: that's beautiful. I just want to but yeah, like you know,
Speaker 3: give give like a life to another person.
Speaker 2: From Rufus, he said he wanted to outdo William Shakespeare.
Speaker 3: Quite honestly, Bro, I don't like, I don't really have
Speaker 3: too many kind of like I want to start this,
Speaker 3: this and this. I feel like just roll with the
Speaker 3: punches in life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. I love that.
Speaker 1: Like you said, nice humble answer. I appreciate you for
Speaker 1: giving us the time. No, it's a pleasure being Thank
Speaker 1: you so much. Thanks really appreciate it. Actually you had
Speaker 1: a lot of people asking for you as well.
Speaker 2: Really, one of our friends from Perth, he's a creative
Speaker 2: Jersey and he met you when he was a yeah,
Speaker 2: a festival.
Speaker 3: He told us, Oh, my god, yes, and he was
Speaker 3: like Glas. He come up to me and he was
Speaker 3: like yeah. I was like, Australian. He's like yeah, and
Speaker 3: then I think he mentioned you boys that ringsmall world.
Speaker 1: Yeah sick. Now, it's sick what you guys are doing
Speaker 1: also as well. I love Assie's the best class. Thanks.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: I need to tell you this because I think your
Speaker 3: your Australian fans will love this. A friend of mine's
Speaker 3: dad identifies as an Australian.
Speaker 2: Identifies as an Australian.
Speaker 3: Yes, so he he's English. He's from Kent, but he
Speaker 3: believes he's an Englishman. He's an Australian born in an
Speaker 3: English and genuinely believed. He genuinely believes it does his
Speaker 3: act does he act? Know what he'll do is he'll
Speaker 3: never support England in sports. He'll only ever support Australia
Speaker 3: in sports. So if it's the Ashes, obviously his son
Speaker 3: my mate is supporting England and they'll have a rivalry
Speaker 3: in the house and like he'll fully like back Ossie's
Speaker 3: if Ozzie's winning, he's in his son's face all this
Speaker 3: sort of stuff, and he'll wear like he's never been
Speaker 3: to Australia as well, that he's never been to Australia
Speaker 3: and he just believes he's in Australia, fully believes Australian.
Speaker 3: And now I thought that he was playing on because
Speaker 3: my mate told that group chat and he knows that
Speaker 3: we will find it hilarious. But it's been like this
Speaker 3: for years that he's done this for for his whole childhood.
Speaker 3: He has to develop the accent or something. He has to,
Speaker 3: like he puts the accent on me.
Speaker 2: Or that.
Speaker 3: I think it's so it's so toxic, but it's so funny,
Speaker 3: Like he'll bowl around one of those stereotypical hats when
Speaker 3: he's doing his barber years and stuff.
Speaker 1: I've never even put one of those on. He's a
Speaker 1: funny guy. But yeah, mental how little ones. To end
Speaker 1: of that, thank you once again, we appreciate you very much,
Speaker 1: and yeah, we'll see you guys next episode. Cheers,