1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: This podcast is being recorded and produced on gadiicol Land. 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 2: We pay our respects to the traditional custodians of this 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 2: country and elders past present. 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: We extend our respect to any First Nations, Aboriginal and 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: Torres Strait Island of people joining. 6 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: Us today, always was, always will be Aboriginal Land ladies first. 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: So basically, I welcome to close friends everyone. I have 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: been struggled on struggle Street this week and I wanted 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: to bring up this conversation, which is a bit weird 10 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 2: to talk about. And I don't know how we're going 11 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: to navigate this because obviously we can't give too much 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 2: away here. But I've been on struggle Street this week 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: because I was locked out of my Instagram earlier this 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 2: week and it asked me to log back in and 15 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: I went, holy fucking shit, what is my Instagram password? 16 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: And that I thought about it and I went, I don't 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: know my TikTok password. I couldn't tell you my YouTube past, 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: I couldn't tell you my Netflix builgiin, I couldn't. I 19 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: couldn't tell you like any of my passwords ever, And 20 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: it really shook me, and I was like, does anyone 21 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: else have this issue or does it just me? 22 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm right there with you, Matt. I hate passwords. 23 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: I fucking hate them, especially so I've got all the 24 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: same passwords as you. But then we've got a business, 25 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: Then we've got Shopify, Then every single one of our 26 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: employees has their own Shopify log in. Then we have 27 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: a billion other accounts like Australia Posts, fucking this, that 28 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: and the other. We forget passwords every day, and the 29 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: steps that you have to go through to get the 30 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: fucking password back or reset it is too much. And 31 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: now I know you hate like AI and all that, 32 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: but honestly, at some stage, can we just get rid 33 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: of passwords and it's a fucking fingerprint or an eyeball 34 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: for everything, like I don't. And just the fact that 35 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: every password has different criteria. It must contain upper case, 36 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: lower case and symbol and punctuation. 37 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: Weelve characters, eight characters, ten characters, So every single password 38 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: is different. 39 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: And it's just different variations of the same password. 40 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and some of them I make real tricky to 41 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 2: you know, figure out with changing changing the E two 42 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: A three or something like that, and then other ones 43 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 2: I don't have to do that, so I don't and like, honestly, 44 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 2: like if I died and someone needed to log into 45 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: my cat, good fucking luck, because I obviously don't have 46 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: them like written down anywhere. And then sometimes as well, 47 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 2: I've gotten lazy when I just sign up to like 48 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: random sites or sites that I don't think i'll use much, 49 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 2: and you know how Apple will suggest a password and 50 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: it will just be like forty random numbers and symbols 51 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: that don't make sense at all, and I just go, yeah, 52 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 2: I just use use strong password, and then it saves. 53 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: Because I think that's the problem, is like because it 54 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 2: auto saves all the time. And then when I tried 55 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: to log into my Instagram, auto save wasn't an option. 56 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: I think it's because it so long ago I had 57 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: logged in and never locked out that that maybe wasn't 58 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: an option. Like saving the password wasn't an option. 59 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: I tell you what I hate too, When you're like 60 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: trying to log in, You've tried to log in six 61 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: times and it's like locked you out. It's like too 62 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: many failed attempts, check your email to reset password. Then 63 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: you go to reset the password and it's like, can't 64 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: use previous past password. It's like, but I tried that, 65 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: but yeah, like, what the fuck it wouldn't let me. 66 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: And then also when you change the password and you're like, 67 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 2: I've just changed it. I've even done the little eye thing, 68 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: so I've looked at how it's I know it's correct, 69 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 2: and then it's changed and you go log in and 70 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: it says wrong password. 71 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 3: I hate it. I hate passwords. 72 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: I do love two factor authentication, though I do love 73 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: that you know it can send me a text makb. 74 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: I love that. 75 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: I hate two factor authentication. You just got a code 76 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: to your two factor authentication app. It's like, what fucking app? 77 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: And this happens in our workplace on a weekly basis. 78 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: And then in the group chat did someone get a code? 79 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, first of all, to where what 80 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: was the mobile number ending in? 81 00:03:59,640 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: Or email? 82 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: Oh that wasn't that, It was authenticator app? What authenticator app? 83 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: Oh my god? 84 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 3: And then you have to. 85 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: Fucking call shopify and be like I can't get into 86 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: my own fucking website. 87 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate it. 88 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: There needs to be a company that comes in and 89 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: just makes passwords simplified. 90 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,559 Speaker 3: For every platform in the world. 91 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:18,119 Speaker 2: Uh huh. 92 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: And I'm all for take my fucking eyeball take my fingerprint. 93 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 3: I don't care. 94 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: If I can just look at the device and log in, 95 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: I'd be happy. I'd be happy to never remember a 96 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: password ever again. 97 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 2: The other thing as well, is do you use zero 98 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 2: for your business? Right? I use zero as well? Love zero, 99 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 2: shout out to zero, love you. But they used to do. 100 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 2: You would log in and it would authenticate the log 101 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: in for thirty days, and now it's every twenty four hours, 102 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 2: resets every day. I've got to go on the authenticator 103 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 2: app and put in the code to prove that it's me. 104 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 2: There's no like remember this browser or anything like that. 105 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 2: I can't. I can't even figure out yeah, and it's 106 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: not like I can. I mean maybe you can, but 107 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: I can't move money around in my zero Like in zero, 108 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 2: I can't transfer money right yeah, or you can if 109 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: you can, I don't know how. But I'm like, why 110 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: do I have to authenticate? All I'm doing is it's 111 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: just my invoices and me bank statements, Like it's not 112 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 2: like they're logging into my bank cap and being able 113 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 2: to go. I'll just transfer all the money out of 114 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: the account. 115 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: Cause there's so many troubles, Like even when AJ and 116 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: I go overseas, which we haven't for a while because 117 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: our numbers are the ones that are on all of 118 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: our accounts for work. 119 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: Huh. 120 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: And then like if we're overseas and the girls have 121 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 3: to get. 122 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: Yes, and it's caused so much troubles for us multiple 123 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: times in the past where we're like, we're going overseas, 124 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: no one, we can't get a code. Fucking now, just 125 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: bring in the ie scanner. 126 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 2: Honestly. Okay, Well, I'm glad someone else has the same 127 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 2: issue as me, because every I think, every single account 128 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 2: I have has a different password. I don't know any 129 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: of them, and I don't know how to get through it. 130 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: Because if I get logged out of everything in my life, 131 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 2: I may as well just make new accounts because I 132 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 2: don't know how to log in. And I feel like, 133 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 2: as someone who's grown up on the Internet, it should 134 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 2: be easier than this. 135 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: But it is so complicated. 136 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: Okay, mark my word, there's going to be a company 137 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: that comes and revolutionizes passwords for every company. 138 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 3: It's good They've got to because it's fucked. 139 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 2: Go Google, girl, I would love you to look up 140 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: the most commonly used password. 141 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 3: I reckon it's like password one, two three. 142 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and see if we've used any of them ourselves. 143 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: I was also going to talk about old passwords as well, 144 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 2: because I used to have really funny old passwords, but 145 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 2: I'm also like, hmm, they might be still attached to 146 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 2: some accounts and I wouldn't want anyone to hack me, 147 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: So maybe that's a little bit a bit full on. 148 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 2: Quirty password and admin are the most popular. One, two, three, four, five, six, 149 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 2: We've got root. Root is a common passwordot random scroll down. 150 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 2: There's not many ones there. It's just like. 151 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: I definitely use like one two three and one two 152 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: three four, Like really, when it's like it. 153 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: Needs numbers at the end, I'm like, for fox sakes. 154 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: Oh no, I have numbers that I use, but they're 155 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: not in succession. 156 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, Admin, I've never used that. 157 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: That's number two most popular, but I think workplaces would 158 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: use admin as the password. 159 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: Hannah's nodding her head. 160 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: I hate them too, and the password is the most 161 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,119 Speaker 1: popular one, which I can totally see that being used. 162 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: What's quirty? 163 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 3: That's just a keyboard like that across Did you not 164 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 3: know that? 165 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: How do we learn that? 166 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: In primary school? It's a quirty keyboard. 167 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: That's what you call that a querty keyboard? 168 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you definitely grew up on a farm. It's a 169 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 1: quirty keyboard. Yeah. 170 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: Speaking of keyboards, I've been smashing the keys on mine 171 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: lately because I don't know if I've spoken about this 172 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: yet or not, but I started a little project. I've 173 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: started writing a memoir. Remember earlier this year, obviously, I 174 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: had my show Dancing Queen, which was my memoir that 175 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: no one would publish. So I decided to perform it 176 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: live on stage for everyone. And I just wanted to say, 177 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: to anyone who has never journaled before or anything like that, 178 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: are you a journaler? No? You don't strike me as 179 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: a journaler. 180 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: No, But I will say writing a book has made 181 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: me feel like I was journaling to. 182 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 2: How's all that going good? I don't everyone knows that, right. 183 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 1: I've done like little stories, but I haven't done any 184 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: like reels or anything yet. But about two years ago 185 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: I started writing it. It's been finished for a while now. 186 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: Now we're in the like print sampling phase of like 187 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: getting some dummy copies made okay, and figuring out all 188 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: the pages because you wouldn't think, like when you read 189 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: a book, you don't think much of it, but like 190 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: the font size and like where every chapter finishes and ends, 191 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: and if there's any like pull out pages with quotes 192 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: and stuff. 193 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 3: So we're at that phase. And I'll tell you another thing. 194 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: And for those of you that don't know, I've written 195 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: my own book kind of like a memoir, bit of business, 196 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: bit of life, bit of everything. When I finish writing it, 197 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: I had blonde hair, like the full blonde hair. So 198 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: I did a photo shoot for the cover because it's 199 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: just me on the cover. So that cover was done. 200 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 1: Then I dyed my hair dark brown, like chocolate brown. 201 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: So I'm like, fuck, I can't come out with a 202 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: book with blonde hair when I've got brown hair. So 203 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: then we did a second photo shoot again to change 204 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 1: the cover. Now my hair's medium light brown, and I'm 205 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: reshooting it again next week. 206 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 207 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: So I'm going to have at least now part of 208 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: me I just burned. I'm going to have three cover options. 209 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: So if I changed my hair in between now and 210 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: the time it launches, i've got three options. 211 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 2: You just go back to blonde, surely. 212 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: Oh fuck, But that's where it's at. We were going 213 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: to launch it at the end of twenty twenty four, 214 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: but just had too much on so tushed it into 215 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. 216 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: Nice why not? But it was a therapeutic experience for you, 217 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: It really was. 218 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 3: So I was writing it just at night when I 219 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 3: was laying in bed. 220 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: I'd put it on my headphones, put on some ADHD 221 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: focus music. 222 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 3: Oh that's playlist that I like, looking. 223 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 2: Up fun and what's that like low five beats and 224 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: things like. 225 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: That, And sometimes I wouldn't have it in the headphones, 226 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: and I just hope playing out my laptop. 227 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 3: AJ is like, do you like this kind of music? 228 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: It's like annoying the fuck out of me, and I'm like, yeah, 229 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: I love it. So I just like put on the 230 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: headphones and type away and you really get into it. 231 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 3: Like I liked it. 232 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: I found it to be a bit therapeutic. And like 233 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: I said, I've never journaled or anything. I always say 234 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: that I'd like to be a journal girly, but I don't. 235 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, like also Carple Tunnel to writing actually 236 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: writing with a pen, I feel I couldn't do that. 237 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 2: My hand would cramp. I feel like I write on 238 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 2: a birthday card and my hand goes. 239 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: I got on my phone at night and my hand cramps, 240 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: like from scrolling, and then I have to switch to 241 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: my other hand. I don't know if you're the same man. 242 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm like holding my phone in the same position 243 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: for ages. Then I get like a cramp and I'm like, yeah, 244 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: got the divit? 245 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: You know what I want to call bullshit on the divot? Right, 246 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: let's talk about the divit in the pinky. Right, you've 247 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 2: seen online the divit in the pinky. No, okay, both 248 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: of you are holding up your pinkies right now and going, yea, 249 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: I got a divi in the pinky. Baby girl, First 250 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 2: of all, check all your fingers. You've actually got a 251 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: divot on all of them. Check your grandma's finger next 252 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: time you're with her. No, check your grandma's finger next 253 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 2: time you're with her. She's never held an iPhone in 254 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: her life. She's got the divot. People have the divot 255 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: no matter what. So we all our bodies have always 256 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 2: had this divot in our pinky. Trust me, I don't 257 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: believe it for a second because because old people who 258 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 2: have never held a bloody phone in their life, they've 259 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 2: got the divot as well. And also if they do 260 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: have the divot and it is from the phone. Well 261 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 2: maybe they got it from the book. Maybe they were 262 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: holding a book back in the olden days and that's 263 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: where their divot came from. I don't know, but I've 264 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: looked at the divots and I've gone because i never 265 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 2: hold my hand my phone in my left hand either. 266 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: I'm always in my actually feels a bit weird in 267 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 2: my left hand, so i always hold it in my 268 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 2: right no matter what. But I've got the divid in 269 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: both hands. 270 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: And you just made me think of something when you 271 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: said back in the olden day, just the random thought 272 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: that popped into my head. I was on TikTok and 273 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: on my for you page there was a video. 274 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 3: There's this girl. 275 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: I think her name might be Analis, but I think 276 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: her TikTok name is like nick Knock. 277 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,599 Speaker 3: Have you seen her? And she's like really in what into. 278 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: Y two K again, I'm like a face person on TikTok. 279 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 3: I'd probably know if you saw her. 280 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: So she loves like hello kitty like but like Y 281 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: two K vibes. 282 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: Anyway, this was a few weeks back now, and. 283 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: So she dresses like Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie used 284 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: to dress like back in the two thousands. 285 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: Like you know, just really that style. 286 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: And she was talking about she was wanting to create 287 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: an outfit that was like two thousands clubbing because she's 288 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: only like twenty or something, and so she was gone 289 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: through a wardrobe and she had this like peplum top 290 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: because remember like backing out, you did see it, and 291 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: she's like, I've been hanging on to this, and so 292 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: she was styling this whole outfit a clubbing two thousands 293 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: outfit with the peplum top, and she did the makeup 294 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: like two thousands clubbing makeup, and she just kept saying 295 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: like this is what they used to do back in 296 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: the day. And I'm watching that, and I'm like back 297 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: in the day though, Like I'm not that much older 298 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: than you, But isn't that funny that someone could see 299 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: our clubbing era as back in the day. 300 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. I caught up with some of my girls from 301 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: high school the other day. We did a little friends 302 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: mess and we were looking at some of our old 303 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,599 Speaker 2: Facebook profiles. Remember you'd go on a night out or 304 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: to a party, you'd take literally five hundred photos and 305 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: you'd upload the entire album to face. 306 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 3: So we need to bring it back. 307 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 2: We were looking at all the old fashion and I 308 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 2: was like, you know what, this actually slaps like I 309 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 2: would love for these Remember the dresses that were all 310 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 2: like encrusted boob dresses and then they just flared out 311 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: like an a line skirt sort of vibe Like I'm like, 312 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: I would wear that to this day. I love it. 313 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: That's another thing, like we look back at our old 314 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: like because you know how we say now that all 315 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: the teenagers of today don't go through a cringe phase 316 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: like we did back then, Like how we were also 317 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: daggy and whatever. But back then, when we were daggy, 318 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: that was cool, Like we were cool when we were 319 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: going through that I don't know, side fringe phase with 320 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: lots of layers and whatever. And we look at it 321 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: now and we like, ugh, teenagers don't get to do 322 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: that today, But what they're doing today is cool. But 323 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: in another few generations that will be daggy. Yeah, we 324 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: were never daggy. That was just what was cool at 325 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: the time. 326 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll probably look back in a few generations and 327 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 2: you know, right now we're like, oh my god, all 328 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 2: these girls with flat shoes in the club, Like in 329 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 2: a few generations, we'll probably be like, or a few 330 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 2: years we'll be like, I can't believe they left the 331 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: house in flat shoes for the class. 332 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: That's insane, though, Like, I'm so mad that we did 333 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: miss out on that, because when I was in my 334 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: clubbing era, when I was seventeen and eighteen, chunky platforms 335 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: was the only thing that I wore, like Jeffrey Campbell. Yeah, like, 336 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: and now kids are wearing joggers to the club. 337 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 3: Why couldn't that have been us? We would never be 338 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 3: caught dead. 339 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: I was in a mini soup pre boobtube skirt with 340 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: chunky fucking and I was going down those stairs at 341 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: King Street nightclub and I don't know how I didn't 342 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: fall over. 343 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: Oh my god, why do nightclubs have so many stairs? 344 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: Let's have that conversation, bring out just single level nightclub honestly. 345 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 2: Anyway, the point is I've started writing a memoir and 346 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: I just want to let any of our scholars know 347 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: if you've never been like a journaler, because neither of 348 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: Unita has Brittany. But as you've heard writing, Brittany writing 349 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 2: her book, very therapeutic me. I've only just begun in 350 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: the last couple months and I actually had no starting point. 351 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: I just kind of like pulled up a word document 352 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: and once. 353 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: Upon a time, because I literally didn't know what to write. 354 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: So I started with that that's the first sentence. 355 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: And I was just like, I have no clue where 356 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 2: to start, but I started, and so honestly like a 357 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: therapy session. And I don't know, I feel like I agree. 358 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: I feel like it just something you might want to 359 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: take into twenty twenty five, maybe over the Christmas New 360 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: Year break, if you're not doing much, just even if 361 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 2: you just only just open up your notes happened typing 362 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: your notes up to begin with, give it a go. 363 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 2: But I just felt like just writing words on a 364 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: page kind of was like a weight lifted off my 365 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: shoulders in the weirdest way. And so I just wanted 366 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 2: today to say, give writing a memoir or go now. 367 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: It's because I haven't been contacted to write a memoir. 368 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: No one's like, I haven't got a book deal, nothing 369 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 2: like that. I said, I'm just going to do this 370 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: and you know what, one day, if it does get published, whatever, 371 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 2: but for now, it's just for me and I'm just 372 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 2: writing as a as a form of therapy. I guess 373 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: and I'm very much enjoying it. So that's my little 374 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 2: tidbit of the day is write a book. Write a 375 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 2: book and just see how you feel afterwards, because it 376 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 2: might change your life. 377 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: Oh I have to say as well, you know how 378 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: we say see you next Tuesday at the end of 379 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: every Close Friends. In our broadcast channel the other week, 380 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: someone was like, oh my god, the ending of that episode. 381 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 3: Loll. 382 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: It must have been like the first time they'd listened 383 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: to the end of Close Friends. 384 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 3: We say it every week. 385 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, And on that note, see you next Tuesday.