1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Fear and Greed Summer series, brought to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: you by Van to specialists in compliance led growth. I'm 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: Michael Thompson, and good morning, Sean Aylmer, Good morning, Michael, 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: Good morning, Adam. 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 2: Lange, Good morning Michael. 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: Now in just five minutes, Very Christmas, by the way, 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: so yes, sorry, very Christmas to you and to everyone. Yeah, 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: that was not very Christmasy of me? Was it? Just 9 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: straight to business. We are going to each put forward 10 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: a story from the last year that Christmas themed is 11 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: kind of the biggest gift. It's the story that just 12 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: keeps on giving, right yeap throughout the year. And at 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: the end we're going to decide who has the best 14 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 1: Christmas gift, because what's Christmas Day without a bit of competition. 15 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to go first. The biggest gift this year 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: has been and this sounds dull, but it's not a 17 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: promise you, has been some massive changes in the way 18 00:00:55,120 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: that we work right right lead with much chin on 19 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: that one. I'm talking about two things in particular. Number one, 20 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: the return to the office. Right this is the year 21 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four was the year that companies decided that 22 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: they had had enough cracking down on remote working. They 23 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: were issuing return to the office mandates, even at giants 24 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 1: like Commonwealth Bank, threatening to cut bonuses if staff don't 25 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: turn up. I think it's fifty percent of the time. 26 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: It's still not working. Super great. Super great is a 27 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: technical term. Office tower is still not a capacity. It's 28 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: affecting values, affecting the huge funds that own them. That's 29 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: kind of the workplace one. The other change to the 30 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,279 Speaker 1: way we work is all about AI. Now twenty twenty 31 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: four has seen AI become fully entrenched in the workplace, 32 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: which is remarkable considering the fact that chat GPT only 33 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: just turned two years old, and here we are like 34 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: it is a toddler. Yet it is allowed into every 35 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: single workplace in the country, possibly in the entire world. 36 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: We've got major companies like law firms expecting staff to 37 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: use AI. It's a requirement of the role. Now every 38 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: second day there's a new story speculating about AI, about 39 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: kind of whether the robots are coming for us, about 40 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: kind of whose job is safe, whether we should be 41 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: polite to the chatbots, just in case they rise up 42 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: against us, and they've got a record of us being 43 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: rude to them. If you put it all together. Changes 44 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: in the way we work in terms of the return 45 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 1: to the office and the use of AI have been 46 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: a massive, no the massivest, most massive gift. 47 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 3: This year, Adam, what's your gift? 48 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 1: Beat that bro? 49 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 2: All right? Tinsel, I mean Sean and Michael. For me, 50 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: the biggest gift this year has been the rise and 51 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 2: rise of Elon Musk. He's certainly been one of the 52 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: biggest gifts to journalism and arguably business. This year, the 53 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: richest man in the world closes twenty twenty four worth 54 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: over US four hundred billion, fueled by Tesla car, SpaceX, Rockets, 55 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 2: starlink X aka Twitter and more. Alongside that staggering personal 56 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 2: wealth and political power. As the co lead of the 57 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: USA's new Department of Government Efficiency, Elon Musk has practically 58 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 2: given journalists worldwide a daily bounty of stories to share. 59 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 2: There is genius, unease, changes in course, and a seemingly 60 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 2: endless pursuit of change, growth and technological revolution. Along the way, 61 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: we had incredible moments such as Michael's favorite, the Rocket Grabber, 62 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: the woeful performance of a robot that required human control 63 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: to serve a drink, and the further delayed launch of 64 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: self driving cars. Elon Musk gave us gifts everywhere. 65 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: Sure, but does the rocket grabber sound vaguely inappropriate to 66 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: anyone else for a family podcast on Christmas Day? 67 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: No? 68 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, it just didn't. 69 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: Might be me looking for the the erotic and everything. 70 00:03:59,520 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: Sorry. 71 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 3: My biggest story. Look, I'm a journalist. 72 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: It's a journalist who is currently wearing tinsel around his 73 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: neck like a feather bower. So look, if you're not 74 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: watching the video of this podcast, and you can certainly 75 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: do that if you're just listening to it, if you 76 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: hear rustling, that is Sean's festive neck garland. 77 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 3: It is Christmas stach to behold, it is Christmas Day. 78 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 3: As a journalist, I love a story that just keeps giving. 79 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 3: And I've got to say both those stories you gave 80 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: us Elon Musk t what and work from Home they 81 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 3: did keep giving. But commodity prices they gave all year 82 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: Iron or Big one for Australia lower than where they started, 83 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 3: triggering a cut in federal budget revenue for the full 84 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 3: year underperformance at the share price is a big three 85 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: minus Beach p Rio and for Skew medals, we all 86 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 3: own lots of shares in those companies. Bad news there. 87 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: Gold prices well, didn't they keep giving great commodity to 88 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 3: have for a rainy day. It seems like people think 89 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 3: there are lots of rainy days ahead. Like goldstocks did 90 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 3: very well. The price of the precious metal hit a 91 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 3: record high in recent months. Copper prices the bell where 92 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 3: the for global growth middle of the year were very 93 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 3: excited about it. They were close to record highs. Their 94 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: hopes that interest rates would start falling didn't happen. Trump 95 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 3: election well, prices down twenty percent since the peak. In 96 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 3: terms of copper nickel, big supply surge out of Asia 97 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 3: hasn't been pretty lift here, major problem with favorite supply, 98 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 3: just as electric vehicle demand fell. A few more positive 99 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 3: signs now but will take a while. Box Site well, 100 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 3: don't we love boux site. It's used in aluminium, yet 101 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 3: world's most boring commodity. However, its price has doubled in 102 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 3: recent months record highs. Bigger than or more expensive than 103 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 3: iron ore. Box SIT's used in aluminium, iron al is 104 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 3: used in steel, and Australia's the biggest producer of bux site. 105 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 3: Pretty excited about that, But my personal favorite coffee record 106 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 3: highs after poor weather conditions in Brazil. The one that 107 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: really hurts me my coffee is my morning flat white 108 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: is going up price. Can I say Can I say so? 109 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 3: We've got to find a winner out of that. I'm sorry, 110 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 3: Elon Musk. We just have to disqualifying for being Elon Musk. 111 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: This is Christmas. You know what in that case Christmas 112 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: Day that I think there is only one winner, and 113 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: it's the return to the Office and the rise of 114 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: AI and the rise of A I mean I did 115 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: both of them. 116 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: I find day this year commodities have given this country something. 117 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: I'm fine, I'm in the Christmas spirit. As you can see, 118 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 3: Michael wins. I come second, you're disqualified. Anim I'm sorry. 119 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 3: That's not against you, it's against Elon Musk. 120 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: Look you know what, I know that that was just 121 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: a pity win that you've given me. But in the 122 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: spirit of Christmas, I will gratefully accept. I'll take it 123 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: however it comes. 124 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 3: That's like the gift that you get that you don't 125 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: really want, but you take it anyway. 126 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: You're not and go thank you. It's just what I've 127 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: always wanted. Thank you very much, Sean. 128 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 3: Thanks Michael. 129 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: Thank you, Adam, Thank you Michael. 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