WEBVTT - Danica De Giorgio | 1 March 0:00:01.360 --> 0:00:04.519 Why On Sky News Australia. 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:07.080 This is Denika di Georgio. 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:09.760 Hello and welcome to the show. Coming up tonight. The 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:14.520 Islamic regime has fallen. Ran Supreme leader Iotola ali Hamoni 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:18.080 killed in a US Israeli air strike. Shadow Attorney General 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:20.040 Michaulia Cash will join me shortly. 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:22.160 What does this mean? Will at work? 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:25.200 And who takes over? Michael Schubridge is coming up with 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:30.360 full analysis plus Australia's reaction. Penny Wong calls for you 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:35.480 guessed it? Dialogue and diplomacy. She never learns. But first 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:39.120 tonight in Sydney last year, Labor Front bencher Ed Husick, 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:42.879 former Labor Foreign Minister bobkar and Lord Mayor of Sydney, 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.559 Clover Moore were pictured next to a photo of the 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:50.720 Iatola as it was carried across the Harbor Bridge. 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:51.879 Just remember that. 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:55.840 And now Labour's proven once again that it's on the 0:00:55.880 --> 0:01:01.000 wrong side of humanity and the wrong side of history. Overnight, 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:04.240 that same dictator that they were pictured with, the Supreme 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:09.440 Leader of Iran, Ali Hemani, was killed in US Israeli 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:12.440 air strikes. Now this is a man responsible for the 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:14.560 mass murder of his own citizens. 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:16.320 Was a sponsor of terror. 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:20.680 His regime supported huties, Hesbalah and militias in Iraq and Syria. 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:25.240 The regime was responsible for two anti Semitic attacks in Australia, 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:29.800 including the firebombing of a Melbourne synagogue. And this brutal 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:34.319 dictator has been taken out. Here was that moment confirmed 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:35.919 by Iranian state media. 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:39.959 Mar Do Micheif to the noble and proud people of Iran, 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:43.000 with ultimate grief and sorrow, this is soon in form 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:46.039 you that, following the barbaric attack by the criminal governments 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:50.040 of America and the evil Zionist regime, the true example 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:54.400 of faith, jihad and resistance, Supreme Leader of the Revolutionary 0:01:54.400 --> 0:02:00.440 God at al Amini achieved the blessing of martyrdom. 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:04.480 Ding Dong, the tyrant is gone. Here is the Ayatola's 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:08.280 residence in Tehran up in smokes. His body was found 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:12.320 surrounded by rubble and riddled with shrapnel wounds. The mullas 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:14.760 so this is his successes, and members of his own 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:18.200 family have also been killed as air strikes rang out. 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:21.720 Donald Trump delivered one of the most important speeches in 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:23.000 presidential history. 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:27.480 Finally to the great proud people of Iran, I say 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:30.480 tonight that the hour of your freedom is at hand. 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:35.440 Stay sheltered, don't leave your home. It's very dangerous outside. 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:39.120 Bombs will be dropping everywhere. When we are finished take 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:42.880 over your government, it will be yours to take. This 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:48.480 will be probably your only chance for generations. For many 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:51.560 years you have asked for America's help, but you never 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:54.840 got it. No president was willing to do what I 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:56.320 am willing to do tonight. 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:57.799 Now you have a. 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:01.200 President who is giving you what you want. So let's 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:04.760 see how you respond. America is back in you with 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:09.280 overwhelming strength and devastating force. Now is the time to 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:13.400 seize control of your destiny and to unleash the prosperous 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:16.919 and glorious future that is close within your reach. 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:21.280 This is a hugely significant moment in modern world history. 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:25.440 Iran has waited forty seven years for this. No leader 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:28.160 has had the courage of Donald Trump, no leader to 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:31.240 take on a brutal dictatorship head on and cut off 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:34.040 the head of the snake, other than Benjamin Etna, who 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:37.400 who has fought terror while being abandoned by so called 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:41.080 allies in the West, including Australia. 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:46.720 We hit out as the tyrant Hameni. For three decades, 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:52.120 he has been sending terror with proxies and has made 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:57.600 his people miserable and continue talking about the extermination. 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:58.080 Of the state of Israel. 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:03.080 This plan and pro no longer exists, This tyrant no 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:05.520 longer exists, and he. 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:08.000 And Donald Trump have done it, the President said in 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:11.040 a statement, Hamni, one of the most evil people in history, 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:14.360 is dead. He was unable to avoid our intelligence and 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:19.159 highly sophisticated tracking systems and working closely with Israel. There 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:22.000 was not a thing he or the other leaders that 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:25.159 have been killed along with him could do. This is 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:28.240 the single greatest chance for the Iranian people to take 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:32.360 their country back, and that news was met with celebrations 0:04:32.400 --> 0:05:01.160 across Iran. The Iyatola's statue has been torn down and 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:04.560 Iranian women are removing their hidgeobs and are dancing in 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:17.040 the middle of Tehran. 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:22.119 What a moment. 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:25.359 But back home, as I said, labor was back on 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:29.120 the wrong side of history. All that Foreign Minister Pennywong 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:33.120 could muster up today was a call for de escalation. 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:36.800 Do not want to see this escalate into a wider 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:40.640 regional conflict. We continue to urge the protection of civilian 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:45.800 life and as others have. We seek the resumption of 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:49.599 dialogue and diplomacy. I would say to Australians, this is 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.800 a difficult period. The days ahead will be difficult, and 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:54.840 we will do our best to give you the information 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:56.400 we are able to get to you. 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:03.760 De escalation, dialogue and diplomacy. Really, what planet does she 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:07.720 live on? I mean, there are Iranians celebrating this historic 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:11.680 moment in the streets. They wanted this, They are praying 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:15.359 that this means a genuine liberation after being under a 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:19.720 murderous regime since the Islamic Revolution in nineteen seventy nine, 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:23.200 a regime that has murdered tens of thousands of people. 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:24.680 Adopted a shoot. 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:27.719 To kill policy on protesters in recent weeks, literally shooting 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:30.599 them dead in the streets. Iran has not given up 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:33.840 its nuclear weapons program. It continues to persist with it, 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:36.880 which of course poses a threat to the world. And 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.960 just like she did after Hamas murdered twelve hundred Jews 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:44.680 on October seven, the Foreign Minister's first instinct is dialogue 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:48.479 and diplomacy. I mean, the same bizarre instinct that she 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:51.880 had after the US took out an Iran nuclear facility 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:53.080 in June last. 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:57.000 Year, I directly put to the Iranian foreign minister. We 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:02.120 are saying to you exercise restraint, returned to diplomacy and dialogue, 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:08.320 because continuing to escalate this has consequences for all peoples 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:11.960 of the region. And I think that is a position 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:15.040 that so many countries in the world are putting to 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.080 not only the Iranians, but also to the Israelis. 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:21.920 And remember, Labour chose not to stand with the US 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:25.200 for the first twenty four hours after that strike on 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:29.000 Iran last year. Australia did not support its number one 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:33.000 ally who tried to destroy terror in Iran, and Australia 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:37.360 went against the US in recognizing a Palestinian state. I 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:39.880 mean Labour lives in a delusional la la land where 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:44.440 they think that negotiations and discussions with terrans and terrorists 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:46.800 who have proved time and time again that they cannot 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:51.960 be trusted is somehow key to solving problems. Or thank goodness, 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:56.320 the US ignored Penny Wong, and thank goodness, Benjamin Netanyahu 0:07:56.720 --> 0:08:00.480 ignored Penny Wong. The Prime Minister talked tough today, putting 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:02.520 him at odds with his own foreign minister. 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:07.880 Australia stands with the brave people of Iran in their 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:14.520 struggle against what is an oppressive regime. Ayatollah Khameni was 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:19.640 responsible for the regimes ballistic missile and nuclear program, support 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:22.720 for armed proxies, and its brutal as of violence and 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:29.560 intimidation against its own people. This claimed countless lives in Iran, 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:36.040 but also internationally. He is responsible for orchestrating attacks on 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:40.160 Australian soil. His passing will not be mourned. 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.120 Look, this is all well and good now, but the 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.839 Prime Minister only talks tough after someone else has done 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:48.200 the hard work for him. I mean, you can't condemn 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:51.240 the Iranian regime and support Palestine at the same time, 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:54.760 especially after the last two and a half years where 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:58.080 he's betrayed our values for votes, presided over the decay 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:02.080 of social cohesion in Australia led by rampant anti Semitism 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.040 and hate at the hands of radical Islamis. 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:07.080 While he and Penny told. 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:10.160 Us that we're a tolerant nation, well where has that 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:11.080 tolerance got us? 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:13.960 Nowhere? I mean, the US and Israel were brave. 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:17.520 Enough to take tolerance into their own hands overnight, and 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:21.000 Albo saying he loves to stand with things. I mean, 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:24.160 he loves that phrase, but he actually never follows through. 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:25.600 He said he stood with. 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:28.400 Australian Jews as they lived in fear and continue to 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:28.839 do so. 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:31.880 He said he stood with us as we watched. 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:34.480 In horror while our national monuments were hijacked by those 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:38.040 who hate us. He said he stood with Australia during 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:40.920 the Bondi terror attack, but could not even mutter the 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:45.240 words radical Islam until about a month later. He certainly 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:48.000 stands around a lot, doesn't he, And yet he had 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:51.720 nothing to say when one of his own MPs was 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:55.320 pictured on the Harbor Bridge next to a portrait of 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:57.520 a now dead terrorist. 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:00.320 Who can believe a word this. 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:04.320 Prime Minister says now today marks a pivotal moment in 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:09.599 the deaths of Islamic terrorists. Hamini and his mulas, hesbla's 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:14.640 longtime leader and one of its founders, Hassan Nasrala Hamas leader, 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:15.959 Yaya Sinhwar. 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.720 And countless other top military and command. 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:23.280 Leaders of terror, all killed by the US and or Israel. 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:27.240 And it all started since October seven, twenty twenty three, 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:30.960 when Israel fought for its right to survive and against terror, 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:34.040 and then once Donald Trump was reelected, acting on his 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:38.199 mandate to stop wars. Long may strong leaders like Trump 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:42.640 and net Yahoo ignore the ridiculous statements and naivete from 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:44.280 Penniwong and Labor. 0:10:45.320 --> 0:11:02.120 This is what Iran looked like before the revolution. And look, 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:03.080 there's a long way to go. 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.720 And I'll get to into what this means and what 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:09.280 happens now with my guests throughout the show. But Donald 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:13.080 Trump has taken a huge political gamble in trying to 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:16.960 restore Ran to its format glory. Now, if it doesn't work, 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:20.120 especially in a media term, it could be disastrous for 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:24.280 his foreign policy credentials and also among his magabase, many 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:27.920 of whom do not want a war. But if it 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.720 goes to plan, then there is no doubt that this 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:35.800 is one of the greatest foreign policy accomplishments in modern history. 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:43.640 Let's bring in the shadow Attorney General Michaliat Cash. Now, Senator, 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:45.400 really good to catch up with you on this very 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:49.480 important day. Firstly, your reaction to this historic moment. 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:55.679 Well, Deanika, the man who bankrolled terror and slaughtered his 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:59.800 own people is finally gone. This is an historic turning, 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:02.959 not just for the people of Iran, but for the 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:06.360 people of the world. He was, without a doubt, one 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:08.400 of the most evil people. 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:09.800 In living history. 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:13.040 And I have to say this now presents a real 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:18.120 opportunity for Iranians to embrace freedom and a new way 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:21.880 of governing themselves. I do acknowledge though, what Angus Taylor 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:27.120 so articulately said in relation to this once in a 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:30.920 lifetime opportunity. It only came about because of the moral 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:35.760 clarity and the decisiveness of both the United States and Israel, 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:40.720 clear allies of Australia, but also their combined military strength 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:44.760 and the bravery of their defense forces. And certainly the 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:49.480 question going forward now is where to from here? Because 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:54.600 President Trump has given the IRGC a very clear choice. 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:59.040 If you escalate as they are currently doing, you will 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:04.640 face overwhelming consequences. Or and the or I thought was 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:08.920 very fair, lay down your arms, step back, and let 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:13.680 the Uranium people finally determine their own future. 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:16.240 But again, an historic day. 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:21.440 The man who bankrolled terror even here in Australia overseas 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:27.000 and slaughtered his own people is gone. What a great opportunity, Danika, 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:29.959 for the Iranian people to finally pursue freedom. 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:33.440 Absolutely, I mean, they've been under such oppression since nineteen 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:35.600 seventy nine, and we saw the vision of them dancing 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:38.240 in the streets. I mean, this is exactly what they wanted. 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:41.360 But you raise a good point what happens now and 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:44.440 this really is key because I think many would be 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:47.720 praying that this does mean genuine liberation, but we still 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:48.240 don't know. 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:52.040 Could Australia be dragged into any conflict? 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:55.280 Do you think in the event that an air root 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:57.079 which is the US and Israel have. 0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:58.320 Gone down, is not enough. 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:01.320 I mean, should the US than op for troops on 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:01.840 the ground. 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:05.240 Could we be dragged in? Well? 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:07.240 I think Donald Trump at this point in time has 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:10.679 made it clear. In the first instance, this is a 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:13.920 military air strike and naval strike. 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:14.520 That is it. 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:17.480 There is no suggestion at this point in time that 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:19.480 there will be troops on the ground. And I think 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:22.000 that Andrew Hasty summed it up this morning in terms 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:25.800 of what is Australia's responsibility at this point in time, 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:29.720 It is to ensure the safety of Australians and our 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:33.640 defense force personnel overseas. But of course we have a 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:37.760 strategic role separate to a boots on the ground role, 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.120 and that is to continue to ensure that we are 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:44.680 providing whatever intelligence we can to our allies to strengthen 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.480 sanctions if we need to, and to do everything that 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:50.680 we can to identify and stop any form of foreign 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:54.440 interference here on Australian soil. But in particular after talking 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:59.600 to members of the Iranian community here in Australia, Danika, 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:03.440 we can't begin to understand, can we how they feel today? 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:07.120 We must ensure that they know that they are at 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:08.359 all times protected. 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:12.400 Yeah, I mean, just even the celebrations across the country, 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:14.640 it's just been it has been wonderful to see. I 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.440 want to ask you about Labour's response to this. Penny 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:21.440 Wong called for talks between the US and Iran. Instead, 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:26.440 she's calling for de escalation, diplomacy and dialogue. These are 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:29.720 similar statements that she made after October seven. I've got 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:31.680 to ask, because what is there to talk about here? 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.760 How could Iran have ever been trusted in the first place? 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:36.480 And as you and I have been discussing, this is 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:39.080 actually what the majority of Iranians wanted. 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:43.680 Well, it's a very good question. What is there to 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:46.480 talk about? And the issue is not talks, Sanika. Talks 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:50.240 have been going on with Iran for decades. It's not 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.800 a lack of talk. It's not a lack of dialogue. 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:56.920 The issue has always been the failure to actually undertake 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:59.520 behavioral change by Iran. 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:01.520 Talks last week. 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.440 The President of the United States, there were talks last week. 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:06.840 The issue we have had is, over these decades and 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:10.440 decades of talks, what does Iran continue to do. It 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:14.880 has continued to export terror overseas. It has continued to 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:19.560 pursue uranium enrichment, but worse than that, and most recently, 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:24.160 it has continued to slaughter its own people for wanting 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:27.320 the one thing that we have each and every day, 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:29.000 and that is of course freedom. 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:31.240 So let's put aside the talks. 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:34.960 Any talks going forward need to be firmly focused on 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:38.760 the future of the new Iran, the future of a 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:40.400 new government, but more than. 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:43.360 That, what a free Iran will look like. 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:47.640 And as Angus Taylor today said, what welcoming a free 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:50.520 Iran to our world actually means? 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:53.080 Yeah, look absolutely. 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:56.200 In the last few hours, Iran has said that it 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:58.920 would retaliate, and we know that overnight it has been 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:03.240 attacking golf STF even a missile hit Dubai International Airport. 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:03.800 Have a look at this. 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:23.840 The iconic Burj Arab was also look just on that though, 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:27.480 I mean Iran is threatening more retaliatory strikes. What is 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:29.879 your advice now to Australians in the region. 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:34.199 Well, I think, like so many in Australia, we have 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:38.000 been contacted today, in particular by Australians who are currently 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:42.320 in Dubai. Very clear advice to them. Please follow defat 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:44.200 advice to the absolute letter. 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:45.720 Please ensure that you. 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:49.760 Are registered with Smart Traveler and stay close to what 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:52.560 the Australian authorities are saying you need to do. But 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:55.359 I also have a very clear message to Pennywong in 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:59.000 the government. You need to ensure that the consular services 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:03.040 are surged and are prepared. This is not something that 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:05.800 was expected, but it is something that now we need 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:09.080 to ensure there is capacity on the ground because I 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:11.960 am myself getting over well with people texting me from 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:15.040 Dubai saying what do we do in relation to the 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:17.479 IIGC and Iran's retaliation. 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:20.560 Not unexpected in fact, it's pattern of behavior. This is 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:21.240 what they do. 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:25.160 But I think again President Trump, in his speech yesterday 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:28.639 and again in comments today, has been very very clear. 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:31.960 He has laid down a clear choice to the IRGC. 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:37.920 You either escalate and you will face consequences that are overwhelming, 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:41.880 or and the ore is what we all hope they choose, 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:46.080 take a step back, lay down your arms, and for once, 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:50.600 let the Iranian people finally determine and choose their own 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:51.400 free future. 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:54.200 Absolutely in the US has already warned that if Iran 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:57.320 does take any retaliatory action that there will certainly. 0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:57.680 Be hell to pay. 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:00.480 I just want to ask you about that pathway now 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:03.560 to democracy. There has been some suggestions that maybe Iran 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:07.760 goes down the shah roots like it used to to 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:09.680 have a Shah as the head. 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:12.399 But I mean, this is still really risky times, isn't it. 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:17.200 Because I don't think that liberation is a sure thing. 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:19.720 I mean, is it too premature to even suggest that 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:20.399 at this point? 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:24.280 And I think it was fascinating today to sort of 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:28.600 listen to commentators all day talking about what happens next. 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:32.520 Nobody quite yet knows what is going to happen next. 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:35.720 What we do want to see, though, is Iran moved 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:38.639 to being a free country like it used to be. 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:41.680 And you showed those pictures of Iran before the revolution. 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:44.520 That is what we want to see but over the 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:48.080 next you know, hours and days, the IRGC have a 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:51.320 clear decision to make, and President Trump and Israel have 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:54.399 made it incredibly clear if you do not lay day 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:57.280 on your arms and take a step back, you will 0:19:57.280 --> 0:20:01.040 be faced with overwhelming consequences. There is a clear choice 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:04.680 to be made at this point in time. Do they 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:07.320 take that choice and lay down their arms and take 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:09.240 a step back? At this point in time it doesn't 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:12.800 appear to be the path they're going down, but certainly 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:15.480 where we all want to hit. And we've always said 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:20.120 this is a coalition we should never impose onto Iran 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:23.840 a future government. It is now for the Iranian people, 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:27.320 once they are free from the terror and the tyranny 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:32.280 of the IRGC, to move towards a free country and 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:35.159 a free government butt of their own choosing. 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:38.000 And look, fingers crossed, it gets there, MICHAELA Cash, We've 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:39.479 got to leave it there. I appreciate your time on 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:42.320 what is such a historic day for not only Iran 0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:45.159 but for the world. Thanks very much for joining me. Well, 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:49.480 let's get more analysis now. Strategic Analysis Australia director Michael 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:51.960 Shubridge joins me. Michael, good to see you. 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:55.400 Is this really the end of the regime. 0:20:55.440 --> 0:21:00.920 As I've just been discussing, there is complete liberation premature. 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:02.680 How much risk is involved. 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:06.240 Welld de Niker, I think you're right. It is very 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:10.960 early in this military conflict. So we're only just over 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:14.080 twenty four hours from when the first Israeli a New 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:17.560 West strikes started, so it's got a long way to 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:20.840 play out. President Trump said he expects the strikes to 0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:23.239 go on for at least a week. They could go 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:26.920 on for much longer. There's two big things here. Really, 0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:29.359 it's a high stakes gamble to try and change the 0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:34.080 regime in this way because there hasn't been regime change 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:38.280 by air strikes in world history, so it's trying to 0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:42.400 get regime changed by remote control. And second, the air 0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:47.320 strikes can kill Iranian leadership like the Ayatola, but it's 0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:50.919 not going to disarm the eight hundred thousand people in 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:55.040 the army, the Revolutionary Guard Corps, and the police, and 0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:57.880 they're the people with the guns, not the protesters. 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:00.520 Yeah, and just on that, so we've got the iatoll 0:22:00.680 --> 0:22:02.640 Is dead, along possibly. 0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:03.480 With his whole leadership group. 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:05.880 That these are the Mullers, so these are his successes. 0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:10.200 They've reportedly been also been taken out. But what you're 0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:12.560 saying there is there's still so many people, so many 0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:16.240 players behind the scenes. So I mean, I think this 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:19.920 is just so significant, but it just seems like it's 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:21.639 a very small step forward. 0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:27.320 Well exactly, And so President Trump said his goals are 0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:33.159 remove Around's nuclear program, destroy Iran's missile capability, both the 0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:35.880 missiles it has and its ability to produce them. Think 0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:38.960 that means drones as well, destroy the navy so it 0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:42.680 can't stop the oil shipments, and then give the Iranian 0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:47.280 people the opportunity to overthrow their regime. But these security 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:51.800 services have been pretty fervent parts of the regime, and 0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:54.040 it's not at all clear they're just going to lay 0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:57.399 down their weapons and wait for retribution from their population. 0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:00.280 And you mentioned as well, I mean, this has all 0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:03.560 been done by air. Can you really bring about regime 0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:07.240 change without soldiers on the ground. Can it be really 0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:08.560 pulled off without troops? 0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:14.120 Well, I suppose we know from other attempts like Iraq 0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:17.760 and Afghanistan that even having ground troops doesn't mean it's 0:23:17.800 --> 0:23:23.560 easy or successful. But doing it without ground troops is 0:23:22.680 --> 0:23:27.280 a really big gamble. And as I say, you're not 0:23:27.320 --> 0:23:31.959 going to disarm eight hundred thousand military revolutionary guard called police, 0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:36.680 and then the religious militia that the regime has by 0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:40.280 air strike. So you can destroy the big government facilities, 0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:43.359 some of the missile stockpiles and production centers, but not 0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:45.800 people with lots of automatic weapons. 0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:49.480 Who takes over the reins now, I mean there had 0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:52.320 been some suggestions of a return back to a shah 0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:55.840 a Riza Pallavi, who is the exiled crown Prince of Iran. 0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:59.000 He's spent about fifty years living abroad. Now he has 0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:02.280