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Speaker 1: It is the City and with Kate Rigi podcast.

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Speaker 2: Together, I don't know a lot of the.

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Speaker 3: CSI song to be let's talk about Justin Bieber today

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Speaker 3: what do you Mean? We're going back at twenty fifteen, everybody,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't a good time for bees and we're going

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Speaker 3: to talk about this a little bit later on. But

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Speaker 3: that was around the time that he was voted the

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Speaker 3: most hated celebrity in the US because it.

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Speaker 4: Was remember, he was egging people.

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Speaker 2: He writes the song.

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Speaker 4: About he went off the rails a little bit, do

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Speaker 4: you mean?

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Speaker 5: So?

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Speaker 3: What do you Mean? Was written by Justin Bieber and

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Speaker 3: a guy called Jason pooh Bear Boyd.

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Speaker 4: Poo Bear poo Bear is a producer.

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Speaker 3: Okay, this is a fascinating story because it's Jason pooh

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Speaker 3: Bear Boyd talking about, you know, all the songs that

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Speaker 3: he was writing around the time and producing around that time,

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Speaker 3: and it's just fascinating how this song was picked up.

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Speaker 2: When I wrote that record, I wasn't even a big

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Speaker 2: fan of what do you Mean? At that time.

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Speaker 6: I had already written one hundred and ten songs for

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Speaker 6: that project, and I was kind of at my WIT's end,

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Speaker 6: so I kind of wrote that one from I just

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Speaker 6: want to get this over with ye.

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Speaker 7: I wrote that in like it was like twenty five minutes,

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Speaker 7: thirty minute, and left the studio. I didn't want to

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Speaker 7: waste studio time, but I know how much it costs.

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Speaker 7: So I went in the studio and I wrote this

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Speaker 7: record really fast, not thinking that anybody would like it

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Speaker 7: because I wasn't that much into it, and then left

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Speaker 7: and get it.

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Speaker 2: Called from Scooter and he was like, that record you did?

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Speaker 2: What do you mean?

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Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, it's cool. He's like, that's his

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Speaker 6: first single. I was like, no, no, I said, we

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Speaker 6: have I have a one hundred and tent of the

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Speaker 6: songs that I wrote. What do you mean it's not

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Speaker 6: the first single. He was like, I'm telling you who where?

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Speaker 6: Every time I get that billing in my stomach, I'm

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Speaker 6: never wrong?

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Speaker 2: What do you mean? Is the single? And I came

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Speaker 2: out fifty times platinumers something like that. Some crazy, isn't that? A?

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Speaker 3: Like it's crazy to think and you know, you take

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Speaker 3: the pod of Let's how to Scoot Abroad, but it's

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Speaker 3: amazing how some people can go nah and when you're

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Speaker 3: writing so much music like that. Pooh Bear was just

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Speaker 3: saying it's just all mold into the others, and you're like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know which one's good.

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Speaker 2: Of course not. You've heard everything, and how good's poo

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Speaker 2: Bear was as well?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it all was there, and then they and pooh

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Speaker 3: Bear passed it on to j Bear Justin Bieber, So

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Speaker 3: Justin Bieber then puts his edge on it.

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Speaker 6: Concept is the most important part. The concept is the address.

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Speaker 6: Each route becomes a verse that gets me to my

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Speaker 6: main idea, my destination. So now I'm making sure that

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Speaker 6: my verses support my main idea. So now I'm talking

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Speaker 6: with the artists and.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you, are you in love?

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Speaker 6: Are you going to do anything? You're going to do

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Speaker 6: a heart rate? They give me the concept of design,

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Speaker 6: So then that's my address. Now I put that in

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Speaker 6: my GPS.

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Speaker 2: Let's to the hook. I write the hook. You love that?

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Speaker 6: That's our first love check. Now I'm going to create

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Speaker 6: this verse to support the main idea to a melody.

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Speaker 2: You love that melody? Cool? Now I'm gonna start putting

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Speaker 2: words to that melody. By the end of the song.

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Speaker 6: Every section that I've worked in, we've all proved it,

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Speaker 6: and we've all been brutally honest about it. So when

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Speaker 6: we listen to the song, we have zero resentment, we

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Speaker 6: have zero regrets power.

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Speaker 4: So you got to sit down with the artists and go,

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Speaker 4: what's going on in your life at the moment?

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Speaker 2: Well, I egged three houses and then he says, what

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Speaker 2: do you mean?

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Speaker 4: What he was talking about the girls? Let's have a

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Speaker 4: listen to justin talking about the lyrics.

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Speaker 5: The title is called what do you mean?

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Speaker 2: What do you mean?

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Speaker 3: Do you mean?

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Speaker 1: Now, that's something that like when you say that to somebody,

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Speaker 1: you're like, you don't understand what they're saying to you, right.

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Speaker 2: Well, like girls are often like it's just flip floppy.

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Speaker 4: I love it, you're whispering.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about girls.

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Speaker 6: Come on, say they say something and then they mean

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Speaker 6: something else, you know, So it's like I want to like,

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Speaker 6: what do you mean?

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Speaker 4: Like, like, do you find when you ask somebody a girl,

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Speaker 4: what do you mean?

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Speaker 1: That they tell you what they mean? Or do they

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Speaker 1: still not always tell you what they're Like you're supposed

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't really know.

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Speaker 5: That's why I'm asking What's.

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Speaker 4: That's why he was voted the most heided person in

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Speaker 2: Can't live with him, can't live without him, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean? Well, you know what.

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Speaker 3: After that poll, Poober was asked, why are you always

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Speaker 3: working with Biber? Like, why are you working with him

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Speaker 3: when he's been voted the most hated. This is what

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Speaker 3: Pooper had to s.

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Speaker 6: I remember my publisher was like, why you keep working

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Speaker 6: with him? He's done? It's like you keep you keep

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Speaker 6: putting all your a's in the one basket. And I'm like,

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Speaker 6: I was, but I like the I like that, and

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Speaker 6: he believed in me more than anybody in my home career.

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Speaker 6: For me, it was like I believe in him because

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Speaker 2: That mere putting his career in your head and I

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Speaker 3: And now he's worth multi millionaire at all. So it

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Speaker 3: helps that your bank balance keeps going wow and up

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Speaker 4: He believes in my bank ballance. Yeah, I believe in

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Speaker 4: his bank balance.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean justin Bieber? That's the song to

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Speaker 2: be today. This is the fitz Wiber with Cape Ritchie podcast.

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Speaker 4: Wells again love, I don't have a lot of me.

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Speaker 3: This song to be.

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Speaker 4: I like the opener. I do like the opener.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, you won't be able to hear Fitzi's voice anymore.

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Speaker 4: The open it's been taken away.

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Speaker 6: Bad World.

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Speaker 4: I'm snitchy. That's why he's the best in the business today.

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Speaker 4: I am so excited about this. This is a song

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Speaker 4: from nineteen ninety, a dance floor classic. It's robin It

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Speaker 4: show me Laugh. Yeah, nineteen ninety yet that's what I.

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Speaker 3: Said, got it. I'm clear world, World done. So Robins

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: It was produced by a man called stone Bridge.

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Speaker 3: Now, this is why this song is so interesting because

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Speaker 3: there's been a few blow ups about this song and

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Speaker 3: who's received the money, because it is one of the

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Speaker 3: biggest dance for classics of all time.

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Speaker 4: And you ask any.

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Speaker 3: DJ what's one song that gets the dance floor going,

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Speaker 3: and it's Robines's show Me Love. This song is iconic

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Speaker 3: and in the dance industry it's huge. So a stone

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Speaker 3: through the song and they were talking about where Stonebridge

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Speaker 4: Have a listen to this. This is a Kevin Sanderson

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Speaker 4: earlier's Chaos.

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Speaker 2: It's called Definition of Love from nineteen eighty nine Polish mission.

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Speaker 4: So he basically Gral's coming back.

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Speaker 2: If we why what how much have you got?

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Speaker 4: So he had the beat. Now there's confusion because he

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Speaker 3: So the record company said, we've got this woman called

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Speaker 3: Robins right, and she's got an amazing voice.

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Speaker 4: She's got no idea about the song whip.

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Speaker 3: She thinks that she's going in there and she's recording

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Speaker 4: She thought that he recorded the song around her vocals.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, the day that she rocked up to record

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Speaker 4: She was quite craek.

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Speaker 8: Listen to this, and then before I started feeling ill.

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Speaker 8: That night I got really sick and I was like

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Speaker 8: I can't. I don't know if I could do this,

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Speaker 8: and half lost my voice, you know, was half there

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Speaker 8: And so the note that everyone hears and the singing

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Speaker 4: That's her with the flu.

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Speaker 3: What a voice and now you haven't listened to Robin

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Speaker 3: he talking about the song, because you know, everyone's thinking,

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Speaker 3: this song is so big, you've made so much money

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Speaker 4: Are you a fan of the song?

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Speaker 8: I didn't have great expectations of it because it wasn't

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Speaker 5: That's not a song that I really wanted to sing.

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Speaker 5: Played back to me and Okay, this is it, this

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Speaker 5: I was so not enthused.

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Speaker 4: She didn't write the song, so you're still sick.

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Speaker 3: So then you think to yourself, when a producer and

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Speaker 3: an artist gets together, that you know obviously you talk

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Speaker 3: about it and you walking. She had no relationship with

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Speaker 8: He built the music to the song around the vocals.

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Speaker 8: It was an absolute perfect Matrich. I didn't even know

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Speaker 8: who Stonebridge was. I only met Stonebridge about maybe fifteen

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Speaker 3: And this is nineteen ninety the song came out. Now

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Speaker 3: a lot of people are saying, I mean, this song

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Speaker 3: is huge. So how much did she receive for the song?

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Speaker 3: How much money did she make from it.

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Speaker 8: I had put input in the song, my own input

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Speaker 8: in the song, and I never got credited for it,

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Speaker 8: never got.

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Speaker 5: Paid for it.

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Speaker 8: So I was labeled as one of the hardest working

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Speaker 8: women in the nineties because I would do four shows

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Speaker 5: That's how I made my money.

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Speaker 2: Wow, four shows.

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Speaker 4: She didn't get paid any royalties for the song.

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Speaker 2: Let's bring.

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Speaker 3: Now this is This is the interesting bit because a

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Speaker 3: few years later there was a woman that came out

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Speaker 3: by the name of Andrea Michaels. Right had nothing to

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Speaker 3: Have a listen.

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Speaker 2: A long time ago, I had demoed a song. Two

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Speaker 2: years later, my sister called me on the phone and said,

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Speaker 5: So apparently somebody put out the demo and it became

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Speaker 2: People that know my voice? No, who did it? So

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Speaker 2: hear your voice? Ah? Yeah, did you recover it?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 5: This is my voice and I want to be heard.

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Speaker 3: So she's claiming that she's the voice of the song,

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Speaker 3: not Robins. Now now I'm thinking if Robins was crook

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Speaker 3: on the day, like I mean, Robin, this is not

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Speaker 3: going to come out now and talk about it if

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Speaker 3: you've got.

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Speaker 4: The flu whip. No, but she wouldn't even know, right.

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Speaker 3: So she's gone in and recorded with the flu her

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Speaker 3: version of it right, and stone Bridge has gone, I

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Speaker 3: don't know if I can use that? Did He then

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Speaker 3: go and get Andrea Michaels to recorder, But Robin s

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Speaker 3: was accredited to the song as the original and not

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Speaker 3: Andrea Michaels.

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Speaker 2: Well, have you got onto Stonewall yet?

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Speaker 4: Stone get onto Stonebridge and moves on the track.

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Speaker 3: He's he's gone quiet, he's gone underground. No one can

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Speaker 3: hear from Stonebridge.

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Speaker 2: Get on to him, Tommy Stonebridge got organized?

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