Speaker 1: Welcome back to Show and Go, the place we talk
Speaker 1: all things Women's rugby League. Pam Whaley back for more
Speaker 1: and really I have to say we to start with
Speaker 1: have suffered a massive case of fomo because Women's rugby
Speaker 1: League was.
Speaker 2: All in Woga for Magic Round, a huge success.
Speaker 3: My mum is not happy that I did not go
Speaker 3: home for Magic Round, but yeah, unfortunately had other stuff
Speaker 3: yeah on this weekend. But it looked amazing. It was
Speaker 3: beautiful and I was so thrilled to see so many
Speaker 3: people in my hometown embracing women's rugby league.
Speaker 1: It was fun. Yeah, because we're all busy here in
Speaker 1: the city thinking what's this going to be like?
Speaker 2: Are they going to get a turnout?
Speaker 1: The weather played its spectacular part. Obviously Season one was
Speaker 1: absolutely ruined in Newcastle by a tsunami of rain, but
Speaker 1: it looked fabulous in Wargo in terms of whether it
Speaker 1: played its part, and therefore a big turnout came and
Speaker 1: I think that's got to be the way forward, smaller
Speaker 1: grounds for those big gala events.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think it has one more year. I
Speaker 3: think there's one more year of the agreement that the
Speaker 3: INN has with the Newsophiles government to hold it in
Speaker 3: a regional area, so who knows where. I don't know
Speaker 3: where it's going.
Speaker 1: To be next year.
Speaker 3: I have asked the question. I don't think they know
Speaker 3: yet or they're not telling me, but yeah, it'll be
Speaker 3: somewhere in regional New South Wales, maybe Wollongong.
Speaker 1: It might be nice to keep it there though, right, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: what's stopping them? There's no blueprint for any of this,
Speaker 1: so you may as well build on it because the
Speaker 1: the locals, the people in the area from far flung
Speaker 1: country towns, can make more of an effort with knowing
Speaker 1: you know what that's Let's put it in the diary
Speaker 1: that was such a good Yeah, a good weekend. It
Speaker 1: looked amazing. Yeah that's true, and then put more around it,
Speaker 1: because you know, speaking to a lot of the players,
Speaker 1: you know they're so caught up in their week to
Speaker 1: week at the moment that a lot of teams did
Speaker 1: fly and fly out and they didn't get a chance.
Speaker 1: There's only I think a couple that got there early
Speaker 1: enough to sort of play a part in the junior clinics.
Speaker 1: But if you're make it more of an event, maybe
Speaker 1: the NL looks at getting players and teams in earlier
Speaker 1: in the week to build up and put more around it,
Speaker 1: because you know, then you bring the big the good
Speaker 1: will that comes with you know, nurturing and grassroots footy.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and in these areas that's where it's needed.
Speaker 1: He couldn't take the men's game unfortunately yet because not yet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it could have never happened probably no, just in terms
Speaker 1: of the scale and everything. But there's such an amazing
Speaker 1: opportunity for the women's game to do it differently.
Speaker 3: Definitely. Yeah, And as I was saying, like those areas
Speaker 3: sometimes feel left out and forgotten about where in Wagger
Speaker 3: it's about five hours to Sydney, it's about four and
Speaker 3: a half to Melbourne, so you're not it's not an
Speaker 3: easy trip to go and see a game if you're
Speaker 3: going up and back, or you've got to pay for
Speaker 3: accommodation and things like that. It's a bit of a stretch.
Speaker 3: So it is nice when it comes to town because
Speaker 3: everyone gets around it.
Speaker 1: Heard some stories from players that people came from as
Speaker 1: far as Melbourne to drive up and watch their team,
Speaker 1: so you know that's what it's about, and that the
Speaker 1: players themselves stuck around on field for as long as
Speaker 1: they could to sign autographs and all those feel good
Speaker 1: stories that you really can't measure the impact that that
Speaker 1: has on the greater on the greater good of the game.
Speaker 1: So well done to all involved. And let's hope that
Speaker 1: it's only bigger and better from here wherever they decide
Speaker 1: to host it. Maybe Queensland once this new South Wales
Speaker 1: government regional deal is done, we take it to regional Queensland.
Speaker 1: Yeah and yeah, because it'd be nothing worse than putting
Speaker 1: it in a big stadium and not you know, getting
Speaker 1: that turnout that.
Speaker 2: We saw on the weekend.
Speaker 1: Well, let's recap what was an incredible magic round the Tigers.
Speaker 2: They got back to the winner's circle.
Speaker 1: They kicked off with a very very impressive performance over
Speaker 1: the Sharks thirty two points to twenty Sharks in a
Speaker 1: bit of trouble, now just one win for the season.
Speaker 1: The Roosters did it in style against the Dragons. N
Speaker 1: kell Her became the first player to notched three hundred
Speaker 1: points and they got that done thirty eight eight over
Speaker 1: sin George Lawara Cowboys. Finally who on the board.
Speaker 2: For season twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: This was a close one, Raiders though, falling away big
Speaker 1: time from what was working for them to start the season.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys on the board eighteen to sixteen. But yeah,
Speaker 1: concerns for the Raiders. Broncos started off Sunday with a
Speaker 1: big win over the Bulldogs thirty four to four. A
Speaker 1: bit of drama out of that game, we'll talk about
Speaker 1: a little bit later. Ali Brigginshaw sinbind was a descend off.
Speaker 1: Were weigh in on that and the Titans Wereriors game
Speaker 1: of the round and it lived up to it in
Speaker 1: terms of the tight nature of the contest. The Warriors
Speaker 1: mounted a second half fight back but fell just short
Speaker 1: eighteen sixteen. The Titans are rising week to week right now,
Speaker 1: and the Knights capped it off with a big win
Speaker 1: over winless Paramatt at thirty two points to twelve. So
Speaker 1: a couple of tight contests and a couple of big
Speaker 1: score lines in the other games. But we talk about
Speaker 1: the breakdown now and at the halfway point of the season, Pam,
Speaker 1: we kicked off the competition suggesting that this is a
Speaker 1: two horse race now at the halfway point five games in.
Speaker 1: Do you feel any differently.
Speaker 3: Um, not particularly. I think the Titans are doing great.
Speaker 3: I think they could definitely challenge the Roosters and the Broncos.
Speaker 3: But I don't really see the Roosters and the Broncos
Speaker 3: losing twenty one but each other. How do you feel?
Speaker 1: I reckon the Titans pushed the Roosters in the first
Speaker 1: game if we look back on it, whether they did
Speaker 1: that through slowing down to play the ball, which is
Speaker 1: what John Strange suggested. However, they did it. They tried
Speaker 1: their best. The Broncos were pushed by the Sharks and
Speaker 1: the Knights. Yeah, but again, couldn't.
Speaker 3: They But they kick away back and then they'll score
Speaker 3: twenty points, you know, in the final twenty minutes or
Speaker 3: something like that like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do get.
Speaker 3: No one's saying they're easy games.
Speaker 2: But you can't see anyone knocking them in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the game of the season will therefore be the
Speaker 1: russ and the Broncos in a couple of weeks, time to.
Speaker 3: Say, yeah, round seven, who truly is the.
Speaker 2: Best of the best.
Speaker 1: But I think it's going to continue to be a
Speaker 1: question for everyone or a statement, this two horse race
Speaker 1: thing until somebody does that knocks off the Roosters all
Speaker 1: the Broncos. And it has continue this conversation throughout the
Speaker 1: whole season where fans get irritated, players are getting irritated
Speaker 1: by the suggestion of a two horse race. We've come
Speaker 1: up with plenty of ideas of how to spread the talent,
Speaker 1: and even players themselves have come in. Therefore, you got
Speaker 1: a great article with the ROLPA responding to all of
Speaker 1: this chatter last week and they've shut down a certain
Speaker 1: suggestion of a teared system.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So the suggestion of a tied system, I think you
Speaker 3: raised it. It's been raised before. I've certainly raised it.
Speaker 3: It's been talked about on how to spread the talent
Speaker 3: throughout the NW and that was just one option. But
Speaker 3: the RPA has said no, it will not form part
Speaker 3: of the the next CBA negotiations.
Speaker 2: They don't like it.
Speaker 3: They believe the way to spread the talent throughout the
Speaker 3: NLW is by increasing the salary gap, which I do
Speaker 3: agree with. I mean, the salary cap doesn't work at
Speaker 3: the moment because it's not a big enough difference between
Speaker 3: the highest paid players and the lowest paid players. And
Speaker 3: the main forms of currency then or in terms of
Speaker 3: value to players are where am I going to have fun?
Speaker 3: Where am I going to win? Where has the best facilities,
Speaker 3: what's you know, where do I want to live?
Speaker 2: Like the increase in the salary cap going to change
Speaker 2: those priorities.
Speaker 3: Because then well they're still going to be priorities. But
Speaker 3: you can you can't then have you know, eight, you know,
Speaker 3: state of origin representatives in one team, because that because
Speaker 3: then they can be offered three hundred that at another club.
Speaker 2: But I don't want the lady. I think they'll take less.
Speaker 3: You think that they would not take it if there
Speaker 3: was if the difference was one hundred thousand dollars, of
Speaker 3: course they would, Like why do you think Stephen Crichton
Speaker 3: and JOm Leueye and all these players left Penrith like that?
Speaker 1: But that's you're dealing in hundreds of thousand dollars. I
Speaker 1: still don't think that's what is going to go up
Speaker 1: that much in the women's game.
Speaker 3: No, That's what I'm saying is that it needs to
Speaker 3: be a significant difference between the top and the bottom,
Speaker 3: even if it's fifty grand. Like what we're talking about
Speaker 3: the moment is the difference between See, I.
Speaker 1: Don't even think they'll leave for fifty grand.
Speaker 2: I really don't.
Speaker 1: I think these girls are so happy in those systems
Speaker 1: because of the program so I think it's more in.
Speaker 3: Fifty grand would be more than half of what they're
Speaker 3: on at the moment, like.
Speaker 1: Some potentially, but I think I think more of more
Speaker 1: of them are motivated to play well, to be improved
Speaker 1: as players. I think that's underestimated for a lot of
Speaker 1: these girls. They love being coached by the coaches at
Speaker 1: the Broncos and the Roosters, and the programs that those
Speaker 1: two teams offer are like light years ahead of all
Speaker 1: the other plus, so I think that's underestimated.
Speaker 2: I think it's more important.
Speaker 1: I think Holly Wheeler brought it up on our show
Speaker 1: last week, it's more important to increase the soft cap
Speaker 1: so that because clubs are not going to spend money
Speaker 1: on their program like it's clear that other than the
Speaker 1: russ and the Broncos who've made it a priority, some
Speaker 1: clubs are trying to catch up now and they're seeing
Speaker 1: the value in adding to the women's game. But until
Speaker 1: they get given the money by the NRL, which is
Speaker 1: what they do in the men's game, I think they
Speaker 1: give five million or four million to the men's game
Speaker 1: in a soft cap to run their football department.
Speaker 3: Football.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're going to get that for the NROLW,
Speaker 1: but even a small portion of that to pay full
Speaker 1: time physios, to pay full time football managers, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: to beef out their program, to make it appealing for
Speaker 1: the girls to move. It is going to be about money.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I hear the girls talk about
Speaker 1: how much they love playing together, and it's going to
Speaker 1: be a lot. I think it's going to be more
Speaker 1: than just fifty K two that's just them away.
Speaker 3: That's just a kind of a number. But it needs
Speaker 3: to be a significant number to be a active, to
Speaker 3: be able to move, because that's what I'm saying. The
Speaker 3: salary cap doesn't it's just kind of an arbitrary number
Speaker 3: at the moment, doesn't really function because it doesn't have
Speaker 3: I mean, it functions in the way that.
Speaker 1: It's need to like double yes and yeah as it should,
Speaker 1: Yeah no, it should, but not moving towards prefet This
Speaker 1: is the only way these things.
Speaker 3: That's the reason why there's so many issues at the
Speaker 3: moment is because they are part time athletes, so yes,
Speaker 3: all those other things have to come into consider, Like
Speaker 3: that's why it's such a puzzle around scheduling around their
Speaker 3: other jobs, around jobs for players and why the richer
Speaker 3: clubs can afford to have more players working for them, Yeah,
Speaker 3: as opposed to some of them.
Speaker 2: But also they choose to do that.
Speaker 1: They make that choice to find those jobs within the clubs.
Speaker 2: So I think that over but.
Speaker 3: A functioning, proper healthy salary cap where none of that,
Speaker 3: where you can't give players jobs, where there's none of that,
Speaker 3: that takes away all of it.
Speaker 1: Is that what's going to happen. Yes, the new CBA
Speaker 1: will take the job away.
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily know if it's going to be in
Speaker 3: the new CBA. That's what the future is, because that's
Speaker 3: what the NRL is, That's what that's how I mean.
Speaker 3: There's issues with the NROL salary cap at the moment
Speaker 3: as we're seeing with you know, P ANDNG and things
Speaker 3: like that, but that's how it needs to function. That
Speaker 3: good teams cannot just keep all of their good players
Speaker 3: that they've developed and just keep them for you know,
Speaker 3: ten years and have a dynasty.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that part of it is important to go
Speaker 1: back to because fans are very disheartened by that. If
Speaker 1: you're not a Roosters or Broncos fan, you're annoyed, which
Speaker 1: is what we love about rugby league is you know,
Speaker 1: you want to be passionate, and that's okay to be passionate.
Speaker 1: That's the only reason why we're bringing it up, because
Speaker 1: if you don't have a fans, you don't have an
Speaker 1: NROLW However, I think I'm having thought about it. We're
Speaker 1: kind of in an era that we were in fifty
Speaker 1: sixty seven years ago with the men when they weren't
Speaker 1: full time professional and they had jobs, and we saw
Speaker 1: some George w eleven in a row, and we saw
Speaker 1: the Eels dominating the eighties and they had incredible teams
Speaker 1: that would not happen now.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I'd love to.
Speaker 3: It wouldn't happen now in the NRL. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: it kind of has with Penreth at the moment. But
Speaker 3: that's the kind of freakish in what they're doing with
Speaker 3: their pathway systems and how they're able to keep a
Speaker 3: system running while losing a lot of their top players
Speaker 3: because they can earn double the amount at another club
Speaker 3: and why not go and set your family up. But yes,
Speaker 3: it's funny to think of where we are now where
Speaker 3: we could be, and that's why we have these conversations
Speaker 3: to push to push so that things do change, so
Speaker 3: that we are moving towards the future. We want to
Speaker 3: know what the future looks like.
Speaker 1: And there's no one sitting here saying, oh, the russ
Speaker 1: and the Broncos are doing the wrong thing.
Speaker 2: No one's suggesting that.
Speaker 3: No one's saying they've got an easy run. No one's
Speaker 3: saying like they were.
Speaker 2: No one suggesting it they don't work hard.
Speaker 1: No one is saying that the girls should be pulled
Speaker 1: apart all that sort of stuff. It's not about an
Speaker 1: individual thing or it's just a concept of the integrity
Speaker 1: of the competition. That it's not a level playing field
Speaker 1: at the moment, and that's what fans can see easily
Speaker 1: doesn't pass the pup test. All right, let's get stuck
Speaker 1: into She Cooked for Magic Ground and Pam who deserves
Speaker 1: a shout out for you this week?
Speaker 3: Well, obviously, the Cowboys won their first game, so.
Speaker 2: That good love to the cast. Give them some love.
Speaker 3: So Mackenzie Wheel obviously their prop. She played seventy minutes
Speaker 3: in that game, one hundred and thirty meters. She was
Speaker 3: outstanding in that, so got to give her.
Speaker 1: Yep a rap and hopefully the Cowboys can keep it
Speaker 1: going and this is the start of good things for them.
Speaker 1: Now for me, it goes to or just a try
Speaker 1: for her try effort Julia Robinson from the Broncos. I
Speaker 1: don't know luck, just because then we can show, if
Speaker 1: you're watching this on YouTube, the vision of how she
Speaker 1: managed to put this ball down and not hurt herself
Speaker 1: as well. And it's only something that probably Julia Robinson
Speaker 1: can do. The Broncos are amazing continuing on their winning
Speaker 1: run and they will do that when she's doing things
Speaker 1: standing on her head to score try. So well done
Speaker 1: to Julia. Time for Pitt or Pam pick aside who
Speaker 1: wins this debate? Now this center our dobby season. The
Speaker 1: standouts most weeks have been our super our rugby union converts.
Speaker 1: Our seven converts have been incredible and it begs the
Speaker 1: question would you pick Teague and Levi for the World Cup?
Speaker 1: She has had an unbelievable start to her transition into
Speaker 1: rugby league at the Titans. Go Pam, you're going to say,
Speaker 1: does she deserve to be picked in the jil es
Speaker 1: at the end of the season.
Speaker 3: I don't like it, you don't like it. I don't
Speaker 3: like it. I think so. Essentially, how it works with
Speaker 3: her contract is she's got an ENERROLW contract that will
Speaker 3: finish at the end of the aneral WS, so October
Speaker 3: thirty one is her last day in the NERLW program.
Speaker 3: Rugby Australia are like fiercely protecting this girl. There is
Speaker 3: no way they are going to it.
Speaker 2: Who cares. What do you want to do? Would you
Speaker 2: want her in your World Cup team? I can't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course if I if I had a World
Speaker 3: Cup team, yes, no, no, no. I don't think it is
Speaker 3: fair for a player to come across for one year
Speaker 3: and yes, obviously kill it, but then to take up
Speaker 3: a position from somebody else, especially in that Jilares team,
Speaker 3: which is like the best international women's rugby league team
Speaker 3: in the world.
Speaker 1: So you don't think marky Mark should play for the
Speaker 1: Kangaroos at the end of the year, he's going to rugby.
Speaker 3: I don't love it. No, I think it. I think
Speaker 3: if you're going back to rugby, I think we need
Speaker 3: to reward the players that have been playing rugby league
Speaker 3: and are devoted to rugby league and this is where
Speaker 3: they are invested and they are have probably grown up.
Speaker 1: But what if she if she wants to stay. What
Speaker 1: if we give her a Jilla's taste and she wins
Speaker 1: a world cut with us, she might stay and would
Speaker 1: that be okay?
Speaker 2: You don't think she's saying no. You don't think she's
Speaker 2: she's going straight.
Speaker 3: She would earn probably close to two hundred grand at
Speaker 3: Rugby Australia and she's on nowhere near that with the Titans,
Speaker 3: and she then has the opportunity to then next year
Speaker 3: she goes into a preparation for the Olympics in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty eight. I mean, that's just a carrot that we
Speaker 3: don't have here in rugby league. She's going back to
Speaker 3: Rugby Australia. She whether she comes back after the Olympics,
Speaker 3: when she comes back in the future. I think she's
Speaker 3: twenty two, twenty three years old, she's still very young.
Speaker 3: I think that will happen eventually if she's having a
Speaker 3: good time here. But I don't think there's enough of
Speaker 3: enough cash.
Speaker 1: Well, don't think for a second that the Kiwi Ferns
Speaker 1: are not inviting all their rugby converts to play in
Speaker 1: their side. If they are good enough, if they have
Speaker 1: an unbelievable n r Old Doby who season debby picking them.
Speaker 1: So I don't see sure, I don't see why it
Speaker 1: teaging Levi. If she wants to play and they pick her,
Speaker 1: I don't know where or what they would need her
Speaker 1: for because we have Taron Aiken and Jesse southwell. But
Speaker 1: perhaps she's a utility off the bench and can cover
Speaker 1: a number of positions and is an incredible strike weapon
Speaker 1: you could have.
Speaker 3: But you could see how this would really annoy Rugby Australia.
Speaker 3: So yeah, who cares no, But let me make this point, Lara,
Speaker 3: So they have put in a lot of development into
Speaker 3: this player and allowed her a season to come across
Speaker 3: and play, to then go back and then be a
Speaker 3: part of their Olympics.
Speaker 2: So it's bad for them.
Speaker 3: For sure, it's bad and there's just no way they're
Speaker 3: going to allow her to.
Speaker 1: So do you think that's fair that that governing bodies
Speaker 1: have the right to stop female athletes who are not
Speaker 1: full time professional yet making the most.
Speaker 3: We even though she wants to, she's never said that, but.
Speaker 1: She wants to play for the Jilarus What if she could?
Speaker 1: She's got nothing to do in October now she could.
Speaker 3: But like we're totally speculating at bottom line, there is
Speaker 3: no way Rugby Australia are going to let that happen,
Speaker 3: whether she wants to or not. Okay, but we don't
Speaker 3: even know if she wants to.
Speaker 1: This will be a big This will continue to be
Speaker 1: a conversation around players that come across for a year.
Speaker 1: There'll be rep footy jerseys up for grabs. So my
Speaker 1: personal view on it is if they want to in
Speaker 1: a time where it is tricky for female athletes to
Speaker 1: make coin to get the most out of their careers,
Speaker 1: they should be allowed to do it.
Speaker 2: I understand that it's not in rugby's best interest.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's not in nerldw's best interest, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: in terms of developing our own who want to stick around.
Speaker 1: But we've seen female athletes do it a lot. At
Speaker 1: least Perry's done it in cricket. She played for you know,
Speaker 1: Australian cricket and Australian football. Why is it different because
Speaker 1: it's two codes of football, Like it's just because rugby
Speaker 1: of course is a huge rival of rugby league and
Speaker 1: we see it in the men happen all the time.
Speaker 1: Obviously there's very strict rules around you can't cross codes
Speaker 1: year on year in the men's I can't see that
Speaker 1: coming in for the women. From the nrlw's point of view,
Speaker 1: maybe Rugby Australia is going to be more staunch in
Speaker 1: their contracts of saying you can't jump and crossover year
Speaker 1: on year. But I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just don't.
Speaker 1: I don't like it.
Speaker 3: I think that they're you know, what about an Emma Manselman,
Speaker 3: What about you know, Quincy Dodd or someone like that,
Speaker 3: who has you know, I'm just throwing names off the
Speaker 3: top of my head. Jocelyn Kelleher who I think wants
Speaker 3: to play for England, but you know who knows? But
Speaker 3: players like that who have been a round the state
Speaker 3: of origin system, who could get their chance to play
Speaker 3: for the Deiliries and then this one year that they
Speaker 3: get the chance to they don't because this player has
Speaker 3: come in for a year, taken that jersey like the
Speaker 3: Jewleryes are the best team, like they don't. I don't
Speaker 3: need her. Just give someone else I go because then
Speaker 3: she's going to rack off back to rugby.
Speaker 1: But she'll come back.
Speaker 2: I think I think she.
Speaker 3: I think she, I honestly think that she will.
Speaker 1: Why don't we just see what fans think like it's
Speaker 1: a great conversation. It will continue to be one. Whilst
Speaker 1: the women are not full time professional, they're welcome to
Speaker 1: play for the three months that we go and then
Speaker 1: they go back. What a fans think would they want
Speaker 1: to see Teagan Levi in Agilla's jersey at the end
Speaker 1: of the year. It certainly sounds like Sarah Packy could
Speaker 1: get a run because he has meex is now out
Speaker 1: for the season, so they're looking for an edge back rower.
Speaker 1: So it'll continue to be a topic. So wonder if
Speaker 1: the fans would get on the Teagan le By bandwagon
Speaker 1: in the Green and Gold. I feel like they would.
Speaker 1: Let's get to our next gen player of the round.
Speaker 1: Tell us who you thought really stood out at Magic Ground?
Speaker 1: Who who should fans be excited about for the rest
Speaker 1: of the season.
Speaker 3: I think there So it kind of happened last season
Speaker 3: as well. Ivana lower Titi so she plays for the Warriors.
Speaker 3: She turned twenty on Sunday. She scored a try in
Speaker 3: that kind of in that really exciting Titans Warriors game
Speaker 3: where the Warriors kind of came back in the second half.
Speaker 3: It was very exciting. She is just a massive has
Speaker 3: a massive future in the game. She made her debut
Speaker 3: last year. She played a couple of games for the Warriors.
Speaker 3: I think she got injured potentially, and then has started
Speaker 3: this year. Old has been coming from the bench this year. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but she's some wrong powerhouse prop absolutely just young like
Speaker 3: a mag truck. Is going to be have an amazing
Speaker 3: future for the Kiwi Ferns.
Speaker 2: And for did she put on the tackle of the
Speaker 2: year last year? Poor Emily Bass?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, if you go back, well hopefully we'll put
Speaker 3: the vision in here, but yes, poor Emily Buss. That yeah,
Speaker 3: grainful but great tak although really great tackle.
Speaker 1: All right, Time for our Aura Academy and let's assign
Speaker 1: some points for round five.
Speaker 2: You can go first, Pam.
Speaker 3: Yes, so I've got Racy McGregor with three points. She
Speaker 3: conteals to kill it. Where the Tigers in their win
Speaker 3: over the weekend Jester just two. She scored a hat trick.
Speaker 3: She's going to be really up there in terms of
Speaker 3: the dalm count I think at the end of the year.
Speaker 3: And then Broncos bench forward Chelsea Lenardoozy. She was amazing
Speaker 3: again from the bench. She's really wound back, Chelsea. She's
Speaker 3: having a great season so far.
Speaker 1: I think that's a big reason why these Broncos and
Speaker 1: Roosters can just come at teams at the back end
Speaker 1: because they've got players like Chelsea Lennardoozy. Great. Yeah, my
Speaker 1: three to two one goes to Roosters Captain Isabel Kelly
Speaker 1: gets a three for me this week. Shannon Martur has
Speaker 1: been great for the Broncos on return from her year off.
Speaker 1: She gets two and let's give a cowboy some love.
Speaker 1: Abigail Wroach she gets one point from me. So let's
Speaker 1: look at where we've got the ladder for our Aura
Speaker 1: Academy so far this season, because we are at the
Speaker 1: halfway point and Ray McGregor, she is our leader at
Speaker 1: the moment and I think deservingly so a huge part
Speaker 1: of the reason why the West Tigers are doing like.
Speaker 2: On track to make finals.
Speaker 1: Yes, he'd have to put them say that this is
Speaker 1: the first year they make finals if they can continue
Speaker 1: on this trajectory. To meek Upton on six points, sharing
Speaker 1: with Jesse Southwell both on six. I can easily see
Speaker 1: to meet you taking out another dlim and Jess so
Speaker 1: just you had her featuring this week. She's been unbelievable
Speaker 1: this season on five with Kernick on four points. Let's
Speaker 1: get to our mail bag for round five. Hi, Pam
Speaker 1: and Lara. I know you've spoken about the Bulldogs and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys this season and some of their woes, But
Speaker 1: what has happened at the Dragons? The club sack Jamie
Speaker 1: Soward and to me it looks like they've gone backwards
Speaker 1: under Cross. Is he under pressure? Please? Do not want
Speaker 1: both my sides finishing bottom of the table.
Speaker 2: Thanks Dan, no.
Speaker 1: Doubt A frustrated Redvey supporter. I feel yat for sure.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess we haven't spoken about the Dragons
Speaker 1: this season, and maybe that's because we didn't expect them
Speaker 1: to be killing it. We didn't expect them probably to
Speaker 1: be finals bound, but did you think they would be?
Speaker 1: Is it one win for the season through five rounds?
Speaker 1: Did you expect that?
Speaker 2: Probably? Probably? Yes so?
Speaker 3: And I think one of the big issues then with
Speaker 3: fans is obviously with Teak and Berry leaving, and that's
Speaker 3: hard to understand.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's gone an.
Speaker 1: The radar a bit from us.
Speaker 2: That's a big It's a big one.
Speaker 1: Like I know, speaking to Dragons fans, they're like, sorry,
Speaker 1: what's happening? We've just we're not going well and now
Speaker 1: we're letting go our best player.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that. So she looks pretty set to
Speaker 3: end up at Cronulla next year. And obviously the Dragons
Speaker 3: get Emma Verrin from next year as well, right, so
Speaker 3: she will move into that fullback position. Obviously she's pregnant,
Speaker 3: she's due to have her baby quite sooner any minute. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So they do get a lot of experience from em
Speaker 3: next year, and they get too power forwards next year
Speaker 3: from the Bulldogs who returned to the club. So I
Speaker 3: don't know, maybe that's let us let them slip a
Speaker 3: little bit this year with our critique of them, because
Speaker 3: we kind of thought this would be a year where
Speaker 3: they would have some teething problems and that next year
Speaker 3: is the year where probably the pressure will be on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have to be a lot better next year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they I think this is a bit of
Speaker 3: a rebuilding year for them. They did lose a lot
Speaker 3: of players at the end of last year. They've got
Speaker 3: it obviously, They've got a few in and yeah they've
Speaker 3: been okay, but nothing super consistent, nothing outstanding, So they're
Speaker 3: obviously planning for the future. So maybe that's where they
Speaker 3: kind of get I think they They've said it before too,
Speaker 3: they're dealing with some culture issues down there well, so
Speaker 3: they're trying to get their culture back on track, and
Speaker 3: that can be a really difficult thing for a club
Speaker 3: to do, to really reinforce high performance standards if they
Speaker 3: haven't been there for a while.
Speaker 1: I do know they were in the market for some players.
Speaker 1: They were doing their best to recruit and it didn't
Speaker 1: work out. So I guess perhaps maybe that gives Dragons
Speaker 1: found some sort of understanding that they were trying to
Speaker 1: get a couple of key players across this year. It
Speaker 1: didn't work, so they've had to stick with this with
Speaker 1: the squad.
Speaker 2: That they have.
Speaker 1: Those very experienced players ended up at other clubs and
Speaker 1: are doing really well. So yeah, sometimes you don't land
Speaker 1: those recruits and then it can have a big impact
Speaker 1: on the year. And yeah, I'd like to think Cross
Speaker 1: has the time doing a big rebuild last year this year,
Speaker 1: and then next year will be a bit more forthright.
Speaker 1: If it's any Emma Vern will be a big inclusion
Speaker 1: for them next year. All right, Round six Radar a
Speaker 1: couple of really cracking games look forward to. I don't
Speaker 1: I promise you I'm not biased against about the Warriors
Speaker 1: because I feel like I always say I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to seeing them play, but I feel like the Warriors
Speaker 1: Nights game will probably be game of the Round next
Speaker 1: week and one to keep an eye on the Raiders
Speaker 1: be the Broncos. Raiders need to bounce back in a
Speaker 1: big way. They've really been poor the last few weeks,
Speaker 1: or particularly on the weekend. More more so Magic Round
Speaker 1: and big concerns. We started the show by flagging this
Speaker 1: Broncos veteran playmaker Ali Brigganshaw. She was sinbint in Magic Round?
Speaker 1: What did you think, Pam?
Speaker 3: I thought it probably would have warranted to send off.
Speaker 3: I didn't you know, I love Ali and she would
Speaker 3: be devastated to have, you know, let's slip a tackle
Speaker 3: like this. It was obviously a mistake, but that was ugly.
Speaker 3: That was not good on Taylor, Preston. Taylor got up
Speaker 3: kind of clutching her head and really didn't look in
Speaker 3: a great way. I'm sure she's very sore today, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I feel like that should have been a send off,
Speaker 3: not a sin bin and I think she we had
Speaker 3: were Wait. I keep checking my phone because I'm waiting
Speaker 3: for the chargers to drop. But they need to calm
Speaker 3: down quite hard on that because that was not a
Speaker 3: good look.
Speaker 1: Expecting how to get a few weeks.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I would, I would expect, and because I
Speaker 3: think that a tackle like.
Speaker 2: That is could have gone wrong.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, that could have been a horrific ending to that
Speaker 3: tackle and that we don't not want to see that
Speaker 3: in the W, and Ali will be devastated at that.
Speaker 3: She is her last season in the nnerl W as well,
Speaker 3: so missing any kind of game time not ideal, but
Speaker 3: well nope, not again. But yeah, it needs a weeks
Speaker 3: for that one. So potentially she could be missing so
Speaker 3: the radars this week and then the week after is
Speaker 3: the Rister's game, so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Her games in the nrol W are numbered,
Speaker 1: so I know, yeah, it'll be upsetting for her to
Speaker 1: be potentially sidelined for two to three, maybe four weeks.
Speaker 1: We'll see what the charge sheet looks like when it drops.
Speaker 2: Pam, that was so fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for wrapping an awesome magic ground and
Speaker 1: getting into some of the big issues around NROLW this week.
Speaker 1: Lots of things to talk about.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: I love that there's so much talk around the women's
Speaker 3: game and people are caring about it, which I think
Speaker 3: is a great sign of growth. It needs, as we
Speaker 3: always talk about, it needs dissection, it needs analysis, It
Speaker 3: needs criticism to be able to grow from where it is.
Speaker 1: So I absolutely love it.
Speaker 2: Any word from the NRL yet on what were we
Speaker 2: chasing it for? Something about it? Broadcast? What the broadcast?
Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, right, they're.
Speaker 3: Still chasing So stay tuned.
Speaker 2: I'll push you on that next week because we're run
Speaker 2: our time.
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Speaker 2: On the next show. See you next time.