1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: On scoring lives Ostrodia. This is the Wider Paney Show. 2 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: Good evening, and welcome to the Rita Panehy Show. Coming 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: up tonight, we examined the manifestly inadequate sentence handed to 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 2: a sexual predator who is transitioning and will be housed 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 2: in a female prison. The panel will weigh in on 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 2: that and the day's other top headlines. Victoria sees a 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: significant surge in carjackings as the crime crisis deepens. 8 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 3: I'll speak to Karlie Douglas about that. Shortly. 9 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 2: Kosha Gator will have the latest from the US, including 10 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: President Trump's big win against Google, and later in the hour, 11 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 2: Alex Stein will explain why the NFL has picked a 12 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: painfully woke artist most of their fans have never heard 13 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: of to perform at the Super Bowl. And Left Is 14 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: Losing It features Rose o'donald doing whatever this. 15 00:00:54,160 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 4: Is samdation. 16 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 3: But First. 17 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: Women's groups have expressed outrage over the extraordinary lenient sentence 18 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 2: given to a transgender father who sexually abused his five 19 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: year old daughter. The sex offender now calling himself Hillary Maloney, 20 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 2: took thirteen videos and sixty four images of himself sexually 21 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: abusing his daughter across a one month period. After agreeing 22 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: to engage in the vile acts for the sexual gratification 23 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: of American pedophile Sam Booth, he. 24 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: Called his master. 25 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 2: Victorian County called Judge Nola Carapana Giotis gave Maloney a 26 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: minimum jail term of just two and a half years, 27 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: ruling that because he was transitioning to becoming a woman 28 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: a trans woman, his moral culpability was reduced. Meanwhile, the 29 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: maximum jail sentence for that type of crime is twenty 30 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 2: five years. Victorian primagus Into Alan is already under fire 31 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: for ignoring police from women's groups to have Maloney moved 32 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: from the female prison he's currently being held into a 33 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: men's one where he belongs, and she is facing renewed 34 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: demands to review Victoria's sentencing policies. Women's rights active ast 35 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: Sal Grover told The Australian newspaper, if you set the 36 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 2: precedent that these horrible people could basically get lighter sentences 37 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: by making this claim, you've created the loophole for them. 38 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: And Women's Forum Australia Chief executive Rachel Wong said it 39 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: is profoundly wrong that such reasoning could be used to 40 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: excuse or soften accountability for one of the gravest crimes imaginable, 41 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: the sexual abuse of one's own child. That's bringing the 42 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: panel joining me now for more on this is News 43 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: Corps Senior writer Patrick Carlyon and research fellow at the 44 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 2: Institute of Public Affairs Colleen Harken. Patrick, everything I've described 45 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: in this story speaks of a deeply seek society talking 46 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: about the crime itself absolutely sickening. But what's happened since 47 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: this manifestly inadequate sentence and the fact that we've got 48 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: this male sexual predator housed in a woman's prison. 49 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 5: Yes, Look, this is something we've been writing about for 50 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 5: years in the papers. Men or people who identify as 51 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 5: women who are biologically male, who are sex offenders have 52 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 5: been put in women prisons, which is terrifying for the 53 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 5: other women prisoners for lots of really obvious reasons. Now, 54 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 5: the idea that this offender in this case got two 55 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 5: and a half years because this person was confused about 56 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 5: their agenda, it absolutely does not pass any common sense 57 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 5: test on any level, does it? And it really introduces 58 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 5: a really important issue. Are we going to have loopholes 59 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 5: and we're going to have sex offenders who are male, 60 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 5: saying I'm confused about agenda and getting shorter sentences because 61 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 5: of it. 62 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:07,559 Speaker 2: Getting shorter sentences Colleen, and also the prospect of being housed. 63 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: In a women's prison, which would be. 64 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: Far more palatable for any male prisoner, but particularly if 65 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: you've got someone who's a sexual predator. They've got a 66 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: captive population there. And these women in prison often have 67 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 2: histories where they've been victims of violence. 68 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 3: Victims of sexual abuse themselves, and to have someone like 69 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 3: that house with them, I mean about their human rights. 70 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a high percentage of women in prison who 71 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 6: have been victims of sexual abuse themselves, and that's part 72 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 6: of their journey is to have the ended up there 73 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 6: to be housed with somebody who's done that to someone else. 74 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 6: There is nothing more henious than sexual abuse of a 75 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 6: child of five year oldch other. There's nobody more in 76 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 6: need of protection, and a two and a half few 77 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 6: sentence on this is just so manifestly inadequate. The other 78 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 6: thing that is to be noted is that it doesn't 79 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 6: matter whether it's a male or a female who has 80 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 6: done this. 81 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 3: The sentence is just inadequate. 82 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 6: And the judges comment that they thought that the guy 83 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 6: was the transitioning person, wouldn't do it again unless it 84 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 6: was under some duress from a male Actually, definitionally means 85 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 6: that they're not really sure that it wouldn't happen again. Yes, 86 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 6: there's just no recognition of the serious, the absolute disgracefulness 87 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 6: of the crime and the sentence things that they're put 88 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 6: with it. 89 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 2: Never mind whether they think it's going to happen again 90 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 2: or not, it's already happened. How about punishing the offense. 91 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: It shouldn't just be about rehabilitation or the chances of reoffending, 92 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: what about actually punishing the offense. And that seems to 93 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: have been lost in the criminal justice process, where offenders' 94 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 2: rights seem to be at the forefront the correct of 95 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: the people in that bureaucracy. 96 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 6: Especially when you see it's a two and a half 97 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 6: year sentence that could have had a maximum of twenty 98 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 6: five years. It's ten percent of what was available to astonishing. 99 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 2: Now let's move on to the Australian Services Union slamming 100 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 2: the into Alan government over the appointment of Mary Beech 101 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: City Council CEO Kathy Henderson. She's going to become the 102 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: new boss of work safe and mere accusations that while 103 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 2: she was with the council she breached workplace safety protocols 104 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: and failed to protect staff. 105 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: Following a drag story time event. 106 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: Of course, it was an Australian Services Union Victorian Branch 107 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: Secretary Tash Walks said, the very organization she is now 108 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: to lead found that she. 109 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 3: Had failed to adhere to the OHS. 110 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: Act and had to step in to override her and 111 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 2: protect the interests of her own staff. 112 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: Colleena. 113 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: This council we speak about at a fair bit on 114 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 2: this program. 115 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 3: It's one of the worst. 116 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: Mary Beeck counsel and Miss Anderson was there and she 117 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: signed off on a half a million dollar name change. 118 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 3: Used to be called Morland Council. 119 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: No one seemed to have a problem with that until 120 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 2: the council decided that was deeply racist. You had some 121 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 2: association with a Jamaican slave estate and they changed the name. 122 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: It's almost like a comedy sketch, if only nobody's laughing. 123 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 6: This is sort of the woke of the woke, rewarding 124 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 6: the woke. These roles should be about competence and independence 125 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 6: and obviously this is the Allen government rewarding one of 126 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 6: their own. As you said, she's been involved in the 127 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 6: millions of dollars spent on a name change toward end 128 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 6: and for what purpose really, And it's just Victoria. It 129 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 6: is an example of Victoria rotting from the inside. It 130 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 6: doesn't matter whether you're competent or independent. It's the Allen 131 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 6: government looking after their own. 132 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: And if I remember correctly, Mary Beck was in the 133 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,679 Speaker 2: news just recently because they sacked a street sweeper for 134 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: questioning the merits of having these lengthy welcome to countries 135 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: acknowledgment of countries before every every meeting. And again the 136 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: court found that he was unfairly dismissed. So this is 137 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: not a council that's particularly well run from what I 138 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: can see, Patrick, But this is a big role. 139 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 3: We're talking about the head of work say that. 140 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: And there are all sorts of issues with work Safe 141 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: itself in this state. 142 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 5: Absolutely, the vehements of the criticism, I think she was 143 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 5: described as being unfit for the role and not being 144 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 5: work safe, not being a place for her really struck me. 145 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 5: I sort of wonder as a journalist, is there more 146 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 5: to this story? Is there more that we don't know 147 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 5: because the evidence presented to sort of make those comments. 148 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 7: Wasn't that strong? 149 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 8: Yes? 150 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 7: And I think I suspect. 151 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 3: That's interesting there is. 152 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I do wonder whether there's some sort of 153 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 2: Labor Party union factional wards that were not fully across. 154 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 2: But we're happy to hear from miss Henderson if she 155 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: wants to come on the program and put her side forward. 156 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: Now let's talk about the Sydney Morning Herald's report on 157 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 2: the cost of Sydney's largest metro rail line project, the 158 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 2: Sydney Metro West. 159 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 3: It's said to blow out but at least two. 160 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 2: Billion dollars due to the skyrocketing price of building underground 161 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: train stations, and there's been all sorts of delays to 162 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: awarding major contracts. That's also caused this blowout in the budget. Patrick, 163 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: the min's Labor government was wavering on this big project. 164 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 2: Can labor governments anywhere deliver projects on time and on budget? 165 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 7: Well? 166 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 5: As a Victorian, as Paul Keating would say, this is 167 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 5: a beautiful set of numbers. You look at the Northeast 168 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 5: wink down here. It was originally going to cost ten 169 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 5: billion dollars and it was sixteen billion dollars. 170 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 7: Now it's twenty six million. Dollars. 171 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 5: That's assuming they ever finish it. On the drive through 172 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 5: there virtually every day. No, these things don't get done 173 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 5: by labor governments. And it's interesting look in New South 174 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 5: Wales there complaining about the blowouts. But these blowouts are 175 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 5: nothing like we see down here. You look at the 176 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 5: suburban rail loop. We just had our premier go to China. 177 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 5: You know, the sort of cap in hand, sort of 178 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 5: begging for drills and the investment in something that the 179 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 5: federal government refuses to invest in. Yes, and certainly a pattern. 180 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Colleen, two billion is nothing really when you look 181 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 2: at the Victorian blowouts. 182 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 3: In these projects. So we could go through the long list. 183 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 2: There's the reason why Victoria has got the biggest debt 184 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 2: of any state. 185 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, but isn't that part of the problem that we 186 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 6: laugh and we say too big? And we just got 187 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 6: washed away because we're getting so used to these overruns 188 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 6: and people who don't seem to understand how to do 189 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 6: a project management, a business case and make sure that 190 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 6: budge that projects are delivered on time and in budget. 191 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 9: We do. 192 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 6: We just now we wash away billions of dollars being 193 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 6: wasted and because we can't see our way out of it. 194 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 6: We can't see people who are competent enough. 195 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 10: To do these jobs. 196 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 6: You know, Victoria and the Southern Metro Rail Loop or whatever, 197 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 6: the SLR, whatever it's called. 198 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 3: Yes, you know that is in a. 199 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 6: Very similar situation, no business case. Billions of dollars are 200 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 6: being spent and no one has oversight into actually managing 201 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 6: the project properly. 202 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: And it's incredible that they go over budgets so much 203 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: because they put a lot of fat in it when 204 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 2: they put it together us they still. 205 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 3: Manage to go over budget. 206 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: Now, let's go to an issue that I love discussing 207 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: on this program. 208 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 3: JK. Rowling. 209 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: She may be off the left, but when it comes 210 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: to the issue of women's rights, she's very sound, very 211 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 2: bold and brave. And the Harry Potter author has now 212 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: put Emma Watson in her place. 213 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 3: She played Hermione Granger. Actress. 214 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 2: Emma Watson said that while she disagrees with JK. Rowling's 215 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: views on transgenderism, she still appreciates. 216 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 3: Her contributions to her career. 217 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: Good of you, Emma to say that Jack Rowling had 218 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 2: quite a lengthy responses as part of it. She said, 219 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: like other people who've never experienced adult life uncushioned by 220 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: wealth and fame. Emma has so little experience of real life. 221 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: She's ignorant of how ignorant she is. I wasn't in 222 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 2: a multi millionaire at fourteen. I lived in poverty while 223 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: writing the book that made Emma famous. I therefore understand 224 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: from my own life experience what the trashing of women's 225 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: rights in which Emma has so enthusiastically participated means to 226 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 2: women and girls without her privilege. 227 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 3: Ouch. 228 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: That is fantastic, Patrick, I've got to say, beautifully written, 229 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 2: as she also accused Emma Watson of pouring petrol on 230 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: the flames of abuse she was personally suffering defending women's rights. 231 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: That's just beautiful. That is I always want to read 232 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: it again. And she did it so. 233 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 7: Well articulate, isn't it. 234 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 5: And she makes that point when Emma Watson spoke out 235 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 5: a few years ago that actually created major dramas in 236 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 5: her own life. Yet security issues, getting death threats, all 237 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 5: sorts of things. 238 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 7: Look. 239 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 5: As a Harry Potter fan, it makes me sad that 240 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 5: two of the most important people who contributed to something 241 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 5: so wonderful are fighting publicly about this. 242 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 7: But that's a massive takedown it's very articulate. 243 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 2: It's beautifully put and I think she's been waiting to 244 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: do this now that Emma's a young woman, She's not, 245 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 2: by no means a child. 246 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 3: She's just graduated from university. She's been working industry for 247 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 3: a long time. 248 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 2: And it's interesting that Emma Watson's kind of being a 249 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: little bit more conciliatory towards J. K Rowling because the 250 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 2: mood has changed. A few years ago, she felt very 251 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: comfortable putting the boots into the woman who made her famous. 252 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 2: But now I guess she can see that the narrative 253 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: has shifted, the cultures shifted. 254 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 6: Yeah, I wonder how much of this is just actually 255 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 6: self serving by Emma Watson's part, because, as you say, 256 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 6: for several years, she was incredibly ungrateful and uncollen about 257 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 6: jk Rowling, and to Patrick's point, J k Rowling had 258 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 6: death threats from the things that were being sid. 259 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 3: Around daily, correct daily. 260 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 6: And now that the trans movement is maybe not quite 261 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 6: so popular, I do wonder whether Emma Watson is just 262 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 6: sort of doing it to position herself a little bit differently. 263 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 6: Jk Rowling said that just because she's created a character, 264 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 6: Emma Watson doesn't have to agree with him that she 265 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 6: said for the entire life. She's entitled to her view 266 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 6: and to publicly express with you, But so is JK. 267 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 7: Rowling. 268 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 3: That's all power to her for doing it. 269 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,599 Speaker 2: And I think she sees a fair bit of cowardice, 270 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: and the way she's kind of wavering on this issue 271 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 2: I think proves that cowardice. Because if you were as 272 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: strong as you were on it a few years ago, 273 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: then why have you shift your position? Or are you 274 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: just sort of reading the room and doing whatever the 275 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: culture is telling you to do? Now, before you two go, 276 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: I've got to get your opinion. This is the sort 277 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 2: of debates that get people going. Let's have a look 278 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: at this mid flight argument over seat space and see 279 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: where you two stand on this. 280 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 11: Well, not a lot of room here, right, I know 281 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 11: I paid for the sheep too. I paid for the 282 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 11: seat as loud right. So, but would you think you'd 283 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 11: want to be share the arm rush? Yes, we're not 284 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 11: sharing the US right now? Right now, you were using 285 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 11: the rt resting position. I'll look you to get out. 286 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 11: I don't even own the arm rush. 287 00:14:58,560 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 7: I'm not on the harm restic though. 288 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 11: Actually what no, I'm not Okay, I'm sorry. 289 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 7: I guess my fats are on their. 290 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 9: Own massage, So sorry, So sir, how do you think 291 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 9: I should tampus part? 292 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 3: Well, there's a way you can solve it, Patrick. 293 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: If your body mass extends to two seats, then you 294 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 2: pay for two seats. 295 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 3: The selfishness here in my mind is out of control. 296 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 3: Of course, it's not pleasant. 297 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: And it's not a conversation anybody would want to have. 298 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 2: But surely, if you know an airline seat is going 299 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 2: to be too small for you and you're going to 300 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: be spilling out to the neighboring seat you travel less, 301 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 2: you pay for two seats. 302 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 7: Do we need bigger seats? Do we need to pay more? No? 303 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 3: Because then I'm paying more and I could fit into 304 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 3: the seat. Thank you. 305 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 5: Wating to overwake people fat shame one another is always. 306 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 2: Going because the other guy, the bigger one, also fat 307 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 2: shame the smaller one is that you know you're no 308 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 2: waif either. 309 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: Where do you sit on this, Belleen? 310 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 6: No, I disagree with Patrick. I also fit into one 311 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 6: suit and shouldn't have to pay for two. But it 312 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 6: is part of this kind of scenario where there's this 313 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 6: fat liberation movement and even using words like fat shaming. 314 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 6: We've kind of moved into this situation of celebrating obesity, 315 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 6: and we shouldn't. I mean, we should actually be kind 316 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 6: to these people and tell them the truth and so 317 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 6: that if you are overweight it is in your best 318 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 6: interest to lose weight. There are associated health problems with it, 319 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 6: and we're not doing anyone in any favors pretending that 320 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 6: having to take two seats is an okay thing. 321 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 2: And the body positivity movement, Patrick, I've had quite a 322 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: few doctors comment on how awkward it is now to 323 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: give honest advice to their patients because yeah, they're accused 324 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: of fat shaming instead of telling them the obvious, I 325 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 2: would have thought. Colleen Harkin, Patrick carlyon body positivity. 326 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 3: Advocas, thank you for time. 327 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: Tonight now to Victoria's worsening crime crisis, and fresh figures 328 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: have revealed that carjackings are also on the rise. What 329 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 2: used to be a fairly rare occurrence is now happening 330 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 2: nine times a week. There were four hundred and eighty 331 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: seven car jackings or attempted carjackings in the year to March. 332 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: That's that thirty six percent increase on the year before. 333 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: And out of those four hundred and eighty seven incidents, 334 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: a staggering two hundred and three were aggravated, meaning the 335 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: perpetrator was armed, and police intelligence shows seventy percent of 336 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 2: the offenders were aged under twenty five, with most belief 337 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 2: to be teenagers. Let's bring in Herald Sun reporter Karlie 338 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 2: Douglas Carley. This is a terrifying crime for the victim, 339 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 2: particularly if it is aggravated. Do we know why there's 340 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 2: been such a steep increase in these sorts of offenses. 341 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 12: I think if we go back to twenty twenty three, 342 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 12: it's really kind of when things kicked off. So at 343 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 12: the time Daniel Andrews just before he's resigned his weekend 344 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 12: bail laws and that's reducing well, he stripped back to offenses. 345 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 12: One of them was breaching bail and that was because 346 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 12: an Indigenous woman had died in custody. 347 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 10: There was an investigation. They found that these laws were 348 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 10: discriminatory towards Aboriginal people. 349 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 12: But it really opened the floodgates and it meant that 350 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 12: all of these people, especially young offenders, could essentially get 351 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 12: away with continuing to commit these violent offenses. 352 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 10: That was also mixed though with this emergence of the. 353 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 12: Tobacco wars after COVID, which meant that you know, these 354 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 12: these crime gangs were recruiting these children or these teenagers 355 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 12: to go and fire bomb these tobacco stores, paying them 356 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 12: a couple of hundred bucks to do so, and it 357 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 12: really got them entrenched into our crime world here in Victoria. 358 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 12: Also the notoriety on social media, I mean COVID really 359 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 12: spurred that on. 360 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 2: So these kids, these teenagers are recruited in part because 361 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: the criminals know the commit justice system is going to 362 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 2: be pretty soft with them, and it's a cheap way 363 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 2: of doing business. 364 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 10: Oh absolutely, yes, exactly. 365 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 12: I mean, like I say, a few hundred bucks go 366 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 12: and light up a tobacco store and really they've been untraced. 367 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 10: You know, we've had one hundred and twenty. 368 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 12: Ish more than that tobacco store fire bombings and they 369 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 12: get away with it. 370 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 3: They get away with it. 371 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: That's the incentivized and it happens. Now, let's talk about 372 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 2: something that happened yesterday again at terrifying scenes outside of 373 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 2: Burke Street. More police engaged in an eleven kilometer chase 374 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 2: from Doncaster to Melbourne CBD as they pursued a stolen BMW. 375 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: A woman was struck by the car and taken to hospital. 376 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 2: Witnesses were left traumatized, and one telling the Herald's sign. 377 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 2: The offenders were covered in black clothing and had their 378 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: faces covered. Four teenage boys have been charged over the incident, 379 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: including a seventeen year old who has bailed to appear 380 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 2: before a children's court at a later day. Carli, what 381 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 2: more can you tell me about what happened here? 382 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 3: From the scenes. I've looked at it. 383 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 2: That's pretty lucky nobody was more seriously hurt or killed. 384 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 10: It's terrifying. 385 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 12: I mean, we've got these kids driving down Burke Street 386 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 12: in this car and like you say, eleven clometer journey, 387 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 12: so the police are a bit slow to actually get 388 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 12: to them. I've got families out in the middle of 389 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 12: school holidays exactly shopping. 390 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 10: You know, obviously you're very busy shopping. Precinct. It is 391 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 10: very lucky that no one. 392 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 13: Else was hurt. 393 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: And what they're going to now look at more ballards 394 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 2: around the CBDs is the solution there? 395 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 12: Well, that's what people have raised. I don't think the 396 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 12: government is actually looking at that. 397 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 10: The oppositions have. 398 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 12: Said that infrastructure isn't the answer. They're obviously looking at 399 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 12: even tougher ail laws. One of the kids that was 400 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 12: picked up on Burke Street actually was on bailer at 401 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 12: the time. 402 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 10: Okay, he was bailed last week. 403 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 12: There are new bail laws though that are actually coming 404 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 12: in today which will create an uplift for some of 405 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 12: those offenses. You were talking about carjackings, aggravated burglaries, so. 406 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 3: Maybe we will be seeing type fingers crossed. 407 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 2: It actually has an impact because so many of the measures, 408 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: including their Maschetti beans, really haven't done anything meaningful to 409 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 2: curb these crimes. Before you go, yesterday we covered an 410 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 2: exclusive story you had in the Herald Sun where there 411 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 2: was a proposal to introduce so called African courts. This 412 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: was something that was considered designed to be similar to 413 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 2: the Kori courts to help young African Australian offenders experience 414 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 2: what's called cultural restorative justice. 415 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 3: Karlie, tell me about this philosophy and how much community 416 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 3: support doesn't have I I mean we talk about the 417 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 3: African community. It's not just one community. 418 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 2: There's people from different countries with entirely different worldviews. 419 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 12: Yeah, and that's exactly the concern that's been brought up 420 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 12: by these leaders. They say, if we were to model 421 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 12: a sort of African court of the Corry Court, we 422 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 12: would have to have so many different elders and community 423 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 12: leaders from all the different African communities. 424 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 10: Would that work? Maybe not. 425 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 12: The idea though, was formed as part of this roundtable. 426 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 12: This group had been given. It was a group of academics, lawyer. 427 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 2: Rising Ly academics and lawyers coming up with stupid ideas well. 428 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 3: I mean, I just think it is madness to even 429 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 3: consider it. It's the complete opposite direction to where we 430 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 3: should be going, where we hold people accountable for their 431 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 3: actions instead of engaging in cultural restorative justice. Goodness. Meet 432 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 3: Karlie Douglas is always a pleasure. Thank you so much 433 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 3: for your time. 434 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 2: Thank you Still to cat left is Losing Ed plus 435 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 2: the latest from the US, including President Trump's big win 436 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 2: against Google. 437 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 3: Kosher Gator has the details. 438 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: You're watching the Reader Panekey Show, and it's time for 439 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: Lefty is Losing It. Let's check in on actor and 440 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 2: simpleton Mark Ruffalo, who is dazed and confused. 441 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 3: He's not coping in Trump's America. 442 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 9: I don't understand what's happening. 443 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 7: Right now. 444 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 9: My industry doesn't understand what's happening right now. But what 445 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 9: they do understand is our freedom of speech is being attacked. 446 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: Another absolute hypocrite who suddenly cares about free speech. They 447 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 2: were cheering on their ideological opponents being silenced, being canceled 448 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 2: and d platforms. 449 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 3: Give me a break. 450 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 2: Now, let's go to lefty losing at regular Rosio Donald who, 451 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: despite fleeing to Ireland to escape Trump's America, does nothing 452 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 2: but talk and think and obsess about Donald Trump. Even 453 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 2: her therapist is wondering why she's so obsessed. 454 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 14: What he's done yet, hasn't even hit us yet, and 455 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 14: if he's not stopped now, we have lost our country. 456 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 14: And I don't know, Nicole, how it is that some 457 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 14: people cannot see it. My therapist said, why are you 458 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 14: so upset? And I said to her, why are you not? 459 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, I have that conversation too, because the gas 460 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 15: lighting that I think you're alluding to, if you're a thoughtful, 461 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 15: informed person, you do stop and say, well, maybe. 462 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 7: It is me. 463 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 2: Yes. Even her therapist thinks she needs to find some perspective, 464 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: but not MSNBC anchor Nicole Wallace, who is matching Rosie 465 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 2: in the loopy stakes. The only gas lighting happening there, Nicole, 466 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: is that you're convincing yourself that you're thoughtful and informed. 467 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 2: But at least when Nicole and Rosie are sharing their 468 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 2: paranoid delusions, they're not producing content like this. 469 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 3: Whatever this is. 470 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 4: Said usual China Lee Guy, the majimdation. 471 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: You know, the Left suffer from the delusion that if 472 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: they repeat a lie often enough and they really really 473 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 2: want it to be true, then it is. We've heard 474 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 2: them repeat the same dangerous lies about Donald Trump for years, 475 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 2: from the Russian collusion hoax to the Fine People hoax. 476 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 2: Now there is another lie being put forward by failed 477 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 2: Vice president and failed presidential candidate Kamala Harris. She keeps 478 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 2: saying this despite it being verifiably false, and. 479 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 13: It ended up being the closest presidential election in the 480 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 13: twenty first century. 481 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,239 Speaker 2: The closest presidential election in the twenty first century. An 482 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 2: out and out lie, Kamala She lost by eight huge margin. 483 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 2: She not only lost the electoral College by a huge margin, 484 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 2: she lost every swing state. 485 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 3: She also lost the popular vote. 486 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 2: Trump was the first Republican to win the popular vote 487 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: in twenty years, but did Rachel Matter correct that obvious lie. 488 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 3: Well, of course not, and Kamala was off to the 489 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 3: view to repeat that same lie. 490 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 13: It is the closest presidential race in the twenty first 491 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 13: century in terms of the outcome. 492 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 2: Yes, the idiot view crowd are going to clap along 493 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 2: like trained seals to anything. But there were six highly 494 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 2: paid view co hosts on the desk with Kamala. Not 495 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 2: one of them corrected that outrageous lie, and, emboldened by 496 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 2: her bold face lies being accepted as gospel, Kamala repeated 497 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 2: that line at her old college. 498 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 3: Here she is at Howard University. 499 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 13: Bosist election for president of the United States in the 500 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 13: twenty first century. 501 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, I know that's right. 502 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: Howard Grad did that here, Howard Grad. 503 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 2: Why is it that Kamala looks like she arrived straight 504 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 2: from happy hour to that event. No academics there, no students, 505 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 2: corrected that lie. 506 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 3: So let's get a hot take on Kamala from her 507 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 3: successor Jdie Vance. 508 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 16: Because the more people know about Kamala Harris, the more 509 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 16: they realize there's no substance there. I mean, agree or 510 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 16: disagree with Barack Obama or Bill Clinton. They actually had substance. 511 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 16: They could actually articulate a viewpoint. I listened to Kamala 512 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 16: Harris for ninety seconds, and I actually feel like I've 513 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 16: gotten dumber in the process. 514 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 3: And I have no idea what she actually believes. 515 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 2: Now to the deplorable elan Omar, who was doubling down 516 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 2: on her abuse against Charlie Kirk last week, she had 517 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: pledge to say, including this on CNN. 518 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 3: That should be in the dust pen of history. 519 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 17: And we should hopefully move on and forget the heat 520 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 17: that he spewed every single day. 521 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 2: Ask to apologize for those comments and other similarly unhinged 522 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: and ugly commentary. 523 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 3: This is what the anti American Democrat congresswoman had to 524 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 3: say this time. She's with the awful Don Lemon. 525 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 17: I have nothing that apologized for. You know it is 526 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 17: It is a tragedy that Charlie Kirk was killed in 527 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 17: that way. I feel for his widow and his children. 528 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 17: They will have to live with that for the rest. 529 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 9: Of their lives. 530 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 3: But there is no legacy to honor. 531 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 17: It was a legacy filled with bigotry, hatred, and white supremacy. 532 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 17: And as a black woman and as a Muslim in 533 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 17: this country, I refuse these crazy people can do whatever 534 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 17: they want to do. But I am not going to 535 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 17: be bullied into complacency, into you know, dishonoring who I 536 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 17: am and what I stand for. 537 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 2: Yes, she's not going to be bullied into decency or honesty. 538 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 2: She's going to remain a race baiting radical doing harm 539 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 2: to the country that gave her sanctuary. Let's bring in 540 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 2: Sky News contributor Kosher geta Kosher Elanoma is going to 541 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 2: find out the hard way that Charlie Kirk's legacy is 542 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: far greater, far more consequential than anything she or her 543 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 2: squad members are going to be achieving. 544 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: I think she already knows that rita on some level, 545 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: but she is unashamed, unabashed telling us exactly who she 546 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: is in some strange upside down where you almost have 547 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: to admire it because she's just tripling down, quadrupling down 548 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: in that belief I think, you know, cynically, in the 549 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: narrow world of just her retaining her seat as long 550 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: as she continues to do that, and the demographics where 551 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: she lives are favorable to that. And once you become 552 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: an incumbent, it does get harder and harder to be unseated, 553 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: though it certainly is happening more and more. Unless and 554 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: until that happens, I would say that she doesn't care 555 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: and she's going to continue to be true to her 556 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: belief system with the no shame whatsoever. The only good 557 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: news I would offer is that broadly speaking, she and 558 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: her kind, whether's Jimmy Kimmel, whether it's everyone else, they 559 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: are losing right now. They're losing electorally, they're losing in 560 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: the court, they're losing culturally, and that is something, but 561 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: they haven't lost. And while they're losing, but they haven't lost. 562 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: This is actually a dangerous time and you're going to 563 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: see much more I think vicious vitriol and even violence 564 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: coming out, unfortunately, and that's why the right really has 565 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: to fight harder against people like that. 566 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely, you mentioned Jimmy Kimmel, We've had the likes of 567 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 2: him straight out lie about the politics of Charlie Cook's 568 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 2: alleged assassin. Now we have John carl On Abas climbing. 569 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 3: The murder wasn't even. 570 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 18: Political, been senselessly celebrated by some a small minority who 571 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 18: didn't like what Kirk stood for and thought it was 572 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 18: somehow therefore justified celebrating or excusing violence is abhorrent. The 573 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 18: murder of Charlie Kirk was not a political act. It 574 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 18: was a gruesome crime. 575 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 2: Yes, it was a gruesome crime, but it was also 576 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 2: clearly political kosher. The motivation for the murder is not 577 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 2: really in dispute at this point. We have the words 578 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 2: of the alleged assassin. Why do we still have elements 579 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 2: of the media determined to muddy the waters here? 580 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: You know, I think we know why that they are losing, 581 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: as we just said, on every dimension, and this is 582 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: the last thing that they have to hang on to, 583 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: which is, as you said in earlier segment, keep lying 584 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: enough times and repeat the lie enough times, and some 585 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: portion of the country and the world, unfortunately will believe 586 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: it because we are in information warfare along with other 587 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: types of warfare, and that's why they do it. But 588 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: I do go back to that silver lining that they 589 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: are losing. Ratings are down. Everything that Charlie Kirk said, 590 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: all of his videos and memorial service, all of that 591 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: have hundreds of millions and even aggregated up to billion views, 592 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: way more than Jonathan carl will ever see or the 593 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: entire network. And so that's the good news that you're 594 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: in this information warfare, and they are not winning. But 595 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: I think they're going to go down and keep repeating 596 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,719 Speaker 1: these types of comments to the bitter end. 597 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 2: And you look at Turning Point, USA, the demand they've 598 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 2: had for new chapters is astonishing. If they can follow 599 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 2: through with that and establish those chapters throughout the country, 600 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 2: the impact is so much more profound than perhaps even Charlie. 601 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 3: Ever dreamed of. 602 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 2: Now Kosher, the federal government maybe shut down. This happens 603 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 2: when Congress can neither pass all twelve appropriation bills needed 604 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 2: to fund the government nor pass a continuing resolution, and. 605 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 3: The countdown is on. Let's hear from Vice President jd. Vance. 606 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 19: First of all, we have to keep essential services functioning 607 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 19: as well as possible if the Democrats shut down the government, 608 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 19: and RUSS has been tasked with making sure that's possible. 609 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 19: To give us about negotiations, one of the things I 610 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 19: admired about the President, but frankly, the entire team's approach 611 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 19: during the conversation we just had with Chuck Schumer and 612 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 19: Hakim Jeffries was you know, yeah, they have some crazy 613 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 19: ideas giving taxpayer money. 614 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 20: To illegal aliens for health care. That's a crazy idea. 615 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 19: Funding transgender surgeries in Peru. 616 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 20: That's a crazy idea, but the hand some ideas that 617 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 20: I actually thought were reasonable, and the hand some ideas 618 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 20: that the President thought was reasonable. What's not reasonable is 619 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 20: to hold those ideas as leverage and to shut down 620 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 20: the government unless we give you everything that. 621 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 2: You want, funding transgender surgeries in Peru and giving free 622 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 2: healthcare to illegal immigrants. Kosha, Do you think they'll come 623 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 2: to a deal before the Wednesday deadline? 624 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: Hard to see. I think possibly this time they will, 625 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: or if it goes into shutdown, it'll be a short, 626 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: very short shutdown. And I think the reason why one 627 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: big difference this time compared to last time, which was 628 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 1: in Trump's first term twenty eighteen twenty nineteen, it was 629 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: the longest shutdown, thirty five days, the longest in history. 630 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: It came down to the border wall, and ultimately that 631 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: shutdown was only averted when Trump caved and said he 632 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: will not keep fighting for I think it was less 633 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: than six billion dollars for the border wall and never 634 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: got that money. This time, the one big, beautiful bill 635 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: was passed, and what that has done is is completely 636 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: legislated and funded Trump's agenda the wall enough money for 637 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: mass deportations, making his tax cuts permanent, and cutting some 638 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,439 Speaker 1: of those aids for Medicare and SNAP and food stamps 639 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 1: in those programs. So, actually the leverage is totally different 640 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 1: this time. The Republicans have so much more leverage because 641 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: their key agenda items cannot be held hostage the way 642 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: it was last time. And because of that, I think 643 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: they're going to play more hardball. And the Democrats ultimately 644 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: will see that, or they already see that, and I 645 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: think they probably are the ones who are going to capitulate, 646 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: but time will tell. 647 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if the Democrats think 648 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 2: there's some sort of electoral advantage in shutting down the 649 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 2: government and prolonging this as long as they can, or 650 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 2: whether it's actually going to hurt them more than it 651 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 2: hurts the Trump administration now. Earlier today, the President reshared 652 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 2: this funny post featuring Chuck Schumer and Hakeem jeffreyism telling you, 653 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 2: I'm liking AI more and more if you can produce 654 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 2: comedy like this. 655 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 21: Look, guys, there's no way to sugarcoat it. Nobody likes 656 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 21: Democrats anymore. We have no voters left because of all 657 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 21: of our work trands bolts. Not even black people want 658 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 21: to vote for us anymore. Even Latinos hate us. So 659 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 21: we need new voters. And if we give all these 660 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 21: illegal aliens free healthcare, we might be able to get 661 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 21: them on our side so they can vote for us Kosher. 662 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 2: The fact that the President is sharing content like this 663 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 2: leads me to believe he is not terribly worried about 664 00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 2: this so called crisis. 665 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 3: But why is this even happening? If the Republicans of both. 666 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 2: Houses, why are they not getting their legislation. 667 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: Through the main issue The wedge here is in the Senate. 668 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: To avoid a filibuster or bring an end to a 669 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 1: filibuster and invote culture, they need sixty votes and they 670 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 1: don't have that much of the majority, so that means 671 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: they seven or eight Democrats or independences that are aligned 672 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: with Democrats to come over to the side. And that's 673 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure the horse training and jocking is happening behind 674 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: the scenes, but I think to your point that the 675 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: one the calculation the Democrats are making because they have 676 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: nothing right now. They have neither chamber, they don't have 677 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, they don't have the White House. This 678 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: is one thing they have that they can try to 679 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: throw a monkey wrench into this, and they would only 680 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: do that if they think it helps them electorally, and 681 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: maybe they're miscalculating. I hope that they are, because videos 682 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: like this one only shows that they're sort of like 683 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 1: running a clown show. And I don't think it's planned 684 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: well with the American public. 685 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 7: But we shall see. 686 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 2: No, but I'm sure the Democrats will get a very 687 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 2: qush run from the media. They will paint this as 688 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 2: just another symptom of the Trump administration being in crisis. 689 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 2: They did that throughout the first term. This just this 690 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 2: constant rolling crisis that it just doesn't have the impact 691 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 2: in once hat kosher. The American electorate is not buying 692 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 2: what the media is selling them. Now, I want to 693 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 2: ask you about this major victory for President Trump earlier today. 694 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 2: He took on social media platforms, has taken on media 695 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 2: companies and even the might of Google, and he's had 696 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 2: another win here. Google subsidiary YouTube has paid out more 697 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 2: than twenty four million dollars to settle a lawsuit that 698 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 2: President Trump brought against the platform for suspending his channel 699 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 2: after the January sixth riot. This is a major victory 700 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 2: there's another way to look at this kosher for sure. 701 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: And now he is approaching ninety million dollars in such settlements. 702 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: Twenty five million from YouTube right now, say, twenty five 703 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: from Facebook slash Meta, fifteen million from ABC because George 704 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: Dephanopolis slandered him. Really, that's what the settlement was on 705 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: when it was mistating the claims from that Egen Carol case, 706 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 1: and then CBS the balance of that. So that's nine 707 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: to million. About two thirds of it is going to 708 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: his presidential library and the ballroom that's going to be 709 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: constructed in the White House, which is going to anger 710 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: i think the left because both those things are permanent things. 711 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: It will have Trump's name on it forever more in 712 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 1: some way. And then the one there is going into 713 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 1: his pocket. So it is a win for sure. It's 714 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: part of his comeback, the greatest comeback story of all 715 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 1: time that's continuing. These are all civil lawsuits that he's 716 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: made in his personal capacity, so they're not you know, 717 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: official lawsuits by the US government. Those types of things 718 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: are also pending. But yeah, on it goes. He's got 719 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,479 Speaker 1: a few more in the pike. The Wall Street Journal, 720 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,399 Speaker 1: Associated Press, the Pulitzer Prize Committee. He's suing them as well, 721 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: giving Politzer prizes to all those people for the Russia 722 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,839 Speaker 1: Gate reporting and on and on a goot. So those 723 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 1: are going to be funny ones that I think will 724 00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: continue to come out in his favor. 725 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 3: I'll tell you. 726 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 2: Accountability is coming for everybody. And when it comes to 727 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 2: Google and particularly YouTube, they admitted that the Biden administration 728 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 2: pressured them to deplatform particular individuals to get rid of 729 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 2: content that the Biden White House did not want shared. 730 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 3: I mean, this is a real issue. 731 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 2: We've had so many people having meltdowns about Jimmy Kimmel 732 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 2: being off air for a couple of days. 733 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 3: This is a real free. 734 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,399 Speaker 2: Speech issue, and I don't think it's got this sort 735 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 2: of coverage it deserves. There were so many ordinary people 736 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 2: Kosher impacted. 737 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: Absolutely, that is really the point. So it's funny, fun 738 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: and funny to see that accountability and having them to 739 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: pay up, even though they're just settlements without apologies. But 740 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 1: the real crux, the legal crux of it, is what 741 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 1: you say. And if we think about what happened in 742 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 1: the week of January sixth, they completely deplatform the sitting 743 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: US president because he still was the president until January 744 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: twenty first from all of those platforms, and then some 745 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: plus individual people. They're still being reinstated till this day. 746 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,439 Speaker 1: Not all of them have been reinstated. There's all sorts 747 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: of people like doctor Naomi Wolf is part of this 748 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 1: lawsuit today from YouTube. She's getting I think two million 749 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: or so out of that because of COVID vaccine related 750 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: information that she was sharing, they suspended her. And there's 751 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: so many examples about that. So we've only scratched the surface. 752 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: The ultimate remedy for this, I do many do believe 753 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: is antitrust, which is picking up momentum that they're just 754 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: too big and the economic power of these five or 755 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 1: six companies is so much that it's so hard to 756 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 1: do anything around them. If that happens, I think only 757 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: then will you see a structural change. Otherwise it feels 758 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: like a little bit of ankle biting. You get some 759 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: wins here and there, but if the other side comes 760 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: into power, which they will at some point, I would 761 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: expect to see this kind of These kinds of tactics 762 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: unfortunately continue in the future. 763 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 2: And Kosha, when it comes to Google, you can't overstate 764 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 2: their power and influence this is how people find that information. 765 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,760 Speaker 2: In the modern age, that've got close to monopoly power, 766 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 2: and that can be a dangerous thing, can't it. 767 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is scary where they have the economic power, 768 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: but as you say, unlike an Excello Mobile or some 769 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 1: other company like that that's also economically very powerful their 770 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 1: market cap, they deal in information flow and opinion shaping 771 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: and it's only going to get even more amplified with 772 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 1: AI and they and all of these tech companies are 773 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: going into that where now that's further going to control 774 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: how people think and the masses think. So this is 775 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: a big deal. Antitrust again, I think is the only remedy. 776 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: And the issue is that governments in these cases are 777 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: very very slow relative to how quickly those companies can 778 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 1: grow and roll up the whole world and all the 779 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 1: information in it, and that imbalance is very tough to combat. 780 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: But it is picking up steam, and if it's ever 781 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: going to happen, it's going to happen in the Trump 782 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,320 Speaker 1: administration some sort of anti trust case brought by the DOJ. 783 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 7: But we shall see. 784 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 3: Kosha geta thank you so much for your time still 785 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 3: to come. 786 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 2: The NFL picks a painfully work artist no one has 787 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 2: heard of to perform at the Super Bowl. 788 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 3: Alex st Mine has the details next Welcome Back. 789 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 7: Now. 790 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 2: The NFL are clearly slow learners. I think it's a 791 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 2: good idea to unleash on their sports loving fan base. 792 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 2: A hard left activist singer that most of them have 793 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 2: never heard of, a dude called bad Bunny, has been 794 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 2: given the honor of performing at the Super Bowl. 795 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 3: Yes, this dude, and don't worry if you don't know 796 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 3: his music. 797 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 2: I'm sure you're familiar with his stupidly woke brand of politics. 798 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 8: I'm never performing in the US again. I'm scared, scared 799 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,760 Speaker 8: that I might raid the venue outside my show, and honestly, 800 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 8: I can risk the safety of my fans like that. 801 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 8: Mainland America just doesn't feel necessary. 802 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 7: To me anymore. 803 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 2: Performing in mainland America doesn't feel necessary anymore. 804 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 3: What does he think the Super Bowl is held? 805 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 8: You can come see me in Puerto Rico or catch 806 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,800 Speaker 8: me in one of the other countries I'm visiting. But 807 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 8: I can, in good conscience keep putting you at risk 808 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 8: just to perform in the mainland US. I know for 809 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 8: a lot of people this feels like a sacrifice. 810 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 2: Sacrifice talk about delusions of grandeur. The only sacrifice is 811 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 2: the NFL's credibility and again picking talent that their audience 812 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 2: doesn't like, let alone revere what a silly own goal. 813 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,479 Speaker 2: Joining me now is a comedian and host of Prime 814 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 2: Time with Alex Stein on Blaze tav Alex am I 815 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 2: being too. 816 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 3: Harsh on Bad Bunny. Is this an inspired choice? 817 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 22: Oh my gosh, this is the laziest chort voice I've 818 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 22: ever seen. Nobody knows who Bad Bunny is. Literally, in America, 819 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 22: if you're an American, nobody has. 820 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 9: Heard of this guy. 821 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 22: I remember when he had a meal at McDonald's. It 822 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 22: was a bad Bunny meal. I remember asking them who 823 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 22: is Bad Bunny and they said the same thing. They said, literally, 824 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 22: nobody knows who he is. So the fact that he gets, 825 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 22: you know, saying at the halftime show when that was 826 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 22: a show reserved for the greatest of all performers, people 827 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 22: like Michael Jackson, and now it's basically. 828 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 9: Become some sort of DEI talent show. So you know 829 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 9: it's lost its luster. 830 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 3: Well, why wouldn't you have some big country star. 831 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,800 Speaker 2: Country is so huge at the moment, and they're selling 832 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 2: out massive arenas and the fan base would love that. 833 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 2: It would be such a such a great vibe, so 834 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 2: pro America, great music. 835 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 3: It's just a win, win win. 836 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 2: It's an obvious option for the NFL, but they've decided 837 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 2: to do this again now, Alex. The were heartwarming scenes 838 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 2: on the wakend with penste football fans sported in the 839 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 2: crowd wearing Charlie Kirk's Freedom T shirts. This was at 840 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:10,399 Speaker 2: a Saturday night's game against Oregon, which was Kirk's team. 841 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 2: Charlie loved the Oregon team and they had a fantastic 842 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,800 Speaker 2: win in that game thirty twenty four over Penn State. 843 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 2: Tell me about this ongoing tribute to Charlie. I noticed 844 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 2: Jason al Dean has played a video before his concerts 845 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 2: of Charlie. 846 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 3: We're not going to forget what happened to Charlie Kirk. 847 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,720 Speaker 22: Well, you know, the tragedy surrounding Charlie Kirk's death cannot 848 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 22: really ever be understated, the ripple and the effects that 849 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 22: it will have across time. So he's going to be 850 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,720 Speaker 22: immortalized and we're going to constantly be there to celebrate Charlie. 851 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 9: It's still incredibly sad. 852 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 22: And I saw that, you know, Turning Point had a 853 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,880 Speaker 22: great turnout, the hand it over five thousand T shirts 854 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,240 Speaker 22: and Happy Valley Pennsylvania and penn Stead ended up winning. 855 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 22: So of course Charlie's very happy with the massive turnout 856 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 22: when it comes to new chapters on campuses. 857 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 9: So overall, Turning Point has increased its reach. 858 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 22: But it's still just such a tragedy reader, just knowing 859 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 22: that that guy would have done so much more than 860 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 22: Turning Point, which Turning Point is an incredible organization, but 861 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 22: you know this guy was literally on his way to 862 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:24,720 Speaker 22: be absolutely. 863 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 9: It's just a tough situation. Reader. 864 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,720 Speaker 2: Oh, I know, and I know you two work close 865 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,959 Speaker 2: and it's personally very difficult for you as well. 866 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 3: Let's talk about arian At Grande. 867 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 2: She's a songstress and an actress and she posted a 868 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 2: rather controversial rant on social media attacking Trump voters. Well, 869 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,879 Speaker 2: the White House has responded to Arianna, and they had 870 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,840 Speaker 2: a fair bit to say, including this, save your tears, Arianna, 871 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 2: because President Trump's actions ended Joe Biden's inflation crisis, and 872 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 2: I bring in trillions in new investments, a White House 873 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 2: spokesman said in a statement, Tell me about this rather 874 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 2: strange feud, Alex. 875 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 9: It is a strange feud, but she's out for blood. 876 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 22: You know, she's one of Pete Davidson's exes, and if 877 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,479 Speaker 22: you dated Pete Davidson, he kind of creates some sort 878 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 22: of fury inside of a woman that really it's a 879 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 22: flame that cannot be put out or extinguished. So I 880 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 22: wouldn't want to fight Ariana Grande if I was the 881 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,320 Speaker 22: Trump administration. So really this is kind of my warning 882 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 22: to the Trump administration be careful because Ariana Grande. 883 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 9: Is somebody not to mess with. So, you know, I 884 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 9: do think Trump needs to watch his ps and qs. 885 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 3: Well, I'm surprised by your your take on this. 886 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 2: She's a very diminutive young woman. You're scared of Ariana. 887 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 2: I'm surprised by. 888 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 1: This, well read it. 889 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:53,839 Speaker 9: She is so thin. 890 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 22: I mean, she does kind of give off like a 891 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 22: witch or black magic, and you know she played a witch. 892 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,320 Speaker 9: So I just I wouldn't want to mess with Ariana Grandet. 893 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 22: She's probably into the occult and all of that weird 894 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 22: Hollywood stuff. So once again, Trump has dealt with worse 895 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 22: Ariana Grande, But me personally, I don't want any of 896 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 22: that smoke. 897 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 2: You are scared of Ariana. This is information I can 898 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 2: use now before you go. Page six has been reporting 899 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 2: Alex that Baron Trump, the president's youngest child, had an 900 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,799 Speaker 2: entire four of Trump Tower shut down for a date, 901 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 2: obviously for security reasons. I'm telling you, Baron Trump, I 902 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 2: think people don't understand the role he played in having 903 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 2: President Trump reelected, the way he influenced the President to 904 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 2: reach out to young mal voters by going on those podcasts, 905 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 2: by going on all sorts of platforms that he otherwise 906 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 2: wouldn't have considered. 907 00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 7: You know, I have the. 908 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,879 Speaker 22: Utmost respect for Don Junior and Eric Trump, but let's 909 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 22: be real, I think it was Baron Trump that was 910 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 22: the X factor in connecting President Trump with people like 911 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 22: Aiden Ross and encouraging him to go on alternative media platforms. 912 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,439 Speaker 22: And no president that was running in an election would 913 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,719 Speaker 22: even consider. So Baron Trump is the future. And then 914 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,840 Speaker 22: you know, I really am not surprised that he's a 915 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 22: romantic guy like this. His dad is a legendary, you know, 916 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 22: romantic man from New York City, so like fatherlake Son, 917 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 22: and I'm sure Baron. 918 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:28,719 Speaker 9: Will have the pick of the litter. 919 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,880 Speaker 22: So you know, I'm excited to see who's dating that 920 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 22: that's the next big reveal. 921 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 9: I want to see who she is. 922 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 7: Well. 923 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 2: Can you imagine the pressure if you're eating a cast 924 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,400 Speaker 2: with Baron Trump and he's blocking off an entire floor 925 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 2: of Trump Tower. 926 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 3: For a date. I mean everyone has to step up 927 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 3: their game in that setting. 928 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,880 Speaker 2: Alex Stein, thank you so much for your time as always, 929 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 2: and that's it for me. 930 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 3: Newsnight is up next. I'll see you at eleven tomorrow. 931 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:02,240 Speaker 7: Night six