1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Tracy Yenders. He agreed Dispensary at Sterling, and shall we 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: say it seemed to be on five double A more 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: more so than just now. 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Saturday nights interesting news. Yes, over Christmas, I'll be 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 2: putting my big girl pants on and filling some big 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: shoes and doing some Saturday nights for Andrew Ramer. There 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: we go, So everyone buckle up, join me for some 8 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: fun hopefully, and yeah, a new experience. 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: Yeah good. So this is what late decemberish. 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 2: Late December Ellie jan so it kind of marks. It's 11 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: really nice because it's nineteen years in February since I 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: first presented the health segment on five double A. 13 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: There we go. So it's been a while, so people 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: might have heard of you, well I hope. 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 3: So by now, and if I haven't, that might be 16 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 3: a good thing too. 17 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: But no, it's really lovely and I've you know, it's 18 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: been an amazing nineteen years with I've had the opportunity 19 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: to present with so many different excellent presenters like yourself, 20 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: and I've worked with a lot of the producers a 21 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: lot of different time slots. So and yeah, I've always 22 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: had fantastic feedback via Green Dispensary so fingers crossed. I know, 23 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: I'm starting to learn all of those shiny buttons. 24 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: Ah, yeah, they're easy. 25 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: Look, yeah, I know if one more person says they're 26 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: easy for someone like me, and I hope the audience 27 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 2: like totally feels my pain here. I'm not the biggest 28 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: tech person. 29 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm not either. 30 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: No, but you've been doing it your whole adult life 31 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 2: and you can't even see those buttons from where I'm 32 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: sitting right now. 33 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: So you only need mic on on telephone on and 34 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: know which one to hit the ads with. That's all 35 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: the rest are there for show. 36 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 3: I like that. I like that a lot. 37 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: But yes, shiny buttons at the moment is my biggest fear. 38 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: But look, we'll be fine. It's going to be fun, 39 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: a huge, uge learning curve, and yeah, I think how 40 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: wonderful to be given this opportunity to go that step 41 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 2: further and learn some more. 42 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's good looking forward to hearing you. 43 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: Well, thank you. 44 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: Now let's talk about well, what over consumption of the 45 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: wrong thing? Is that a good topic? 46 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 2: It is because we know in the news at the 47 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: moment there's a lot about vitamin B six toxicity and 48 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: things like that, and the news headlines this morning were 49 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: you know, the TGA were saying some vitamin B six 50 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 2: products will be removed, some will be need to be reformulated, 51 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: and what will happen. 52 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: They're saying that there's a rise in vitamin B. 53 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: Six toxicity cases over the past few months, and anyone 54 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: requiring a certain amount, so over fifty milligrams, which is 55 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 2: still a relatively high dose of vitamin B sick, we'll 56 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: need pharmacist advice. And anything over two hundred will need 57 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: a script. I have never in my whole career prescribed 58 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: anyone anywhere near fifty milligrams a day, so most of 59 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: these products don't. But there's a whole bunch of other 60 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 2: circumstances as to why it's not effective. 61 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: What is B six, what's it in? What's it due? 62 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 3: Okay? 63 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: B six is a very important vitamin, so from I 64 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: suppose a synthetic point of view, perido scene, in a bioactive, 65 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: bioavailable form, it's pyrodoxyl five phosphate. It's very important for 66 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: so many functions in the body, including nervous system and 67 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: our health and well being. But B six isn't a 68 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: vitamin that can generally work by itself. It needs vitamin 69 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: B two, which is riboflavon. But the problems become where 70 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: So initially these complaints came up and they were blaming 71 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,839 Speaker 2: simply a magnesium product. And don't get me wrong, there 72 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: are a lot of magnesiums that have thrown some purodoxine 73 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: in it, or some even the better form of purodoxyl 74 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 2: phi phosphate. But is it meant to be in there? 75 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: Will? 76 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: You can debate yes and no. The problem lies when 77 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: people take a multi vitamin, and then you get other 78 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: people that go, I also take a B complex, so 79 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 2: you've already got two lots of it. Then they buy 80 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: a magnesium and some of these companies are big, well known, 81 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: great marketing, and they take a magnesium that also contains 82 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: vitamin B sints. But then they have an energy drink, 83 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: or an electrolyte drink, or a diet shake, or a couple. 84 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 3: Of times a day have a diet shape. 85 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: All of those things contain a form of vitamin B set. 86 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: And then comes in my other pet grievance. So B 87 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: vitamins are water soluble, so the body doesn't generally store them. 88 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,119 Speaker 2: The body will take what it needs and the rest 89 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: like vitamin C are excreted via the kidneys. The problem 90 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 2: lies in to excrete water soluble vitamins. You have to 91 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: have good hydration to then filter them out through the kidneys. 92 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: What do we get B six in? You know? Is 93 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: it in natural foods? 94 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 3: It is. 95 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: It's in a lot of good foods, things like your chickpeas, salmon, avocado, bananas, berries, 96 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: So you're having. 97 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: A few of those things kind of semi regularly, even 98 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: you're probably okay, you will. 99 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 2: The other confusing thing is too And this is why 100 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 2: we're kind of looking at this B six stuff as if, well, 101 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: what's going on. Some foods are actually fortified with B six, 102 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: like a lot of breads and grains and cereals and things. 103 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 2: You're getting another dose there. But over winter, particularly if 104 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: you're cooking your foods, so water soluble foods can be 105 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 2: like vitamins, will be destroyed in the cooking process, so 106 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 2: you can lessen their availability. So I think the problem 107 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 2: becomes and certainly what the initial reported problem was, and 108 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: I believe it's only taken two hundred and thirty one 109 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 2: complaints for this to come to manifact. 110 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: They've moved relatively quickly. 111 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 3: Then yeah, oh, I. 112 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: Think this has been over time, but it's not a 113 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: large amount of complaints, but it can be quite serious 114 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: because toxicity can have effects on well, not any mood. 115 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: It can have effects on the gate like your balance. 116 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: It can have a lot of effects on your nervous system, 117 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: and particularly the ones about peripheral europathy. But if you 118 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: pick this up quickly and you stop that vitamin and 119 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: you drink lots of water, the problem should generally go away. 120 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 2: But it's when you get the people that think the 121 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: more the merrier, or incidentally or accidentally taking more by 122 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: doing multiple different supplements, or you know, there's a lot 123 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: of ranges out there, even in practitioner world where these 124 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: substances can accumulate. You know, you get a multi vitamin 125 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: or and then you ask someone to take a bit 126 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: of extra iron, but that's also got B six B 127 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: TWELVEOL eight in it. Then you might think, oh, well 128 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: a zinc, but that's also got it in it, and 129 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: then you're magnesium. So magnesium is getting blamed a lot 130 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: because I believe that's the initial complaint because some people 131 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: need more magnesium, which is an incredibly common deficiency, but 132 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: when they sneak in things like the B six into 133 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: that if you're taking two three four doses of that 134 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: a day, you're also getting two three four doses of 135 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: the B six on top of whatever else is supplementing 136 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: as well. That's what the initial complaint was. But now, sadly, 137 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: I had someone come to my clinic the other day 138 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: and they said, oh, the doctor told me to stop everything, 139 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: particularly magnesium, because that's where the problem is. And I 140 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: looked at the patient and I said, well, I don't 141 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: use magnesiums with B six in it ever. Ever, I'm 142 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: very much a building block person, and I build the 143 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: teams you need and not the ones you don't. So 144 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 2: I'll use very clean products that don't have the B 145 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: six in it. And yeah, so to say to stop 146 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 2: all your magnesiums without asking what product it is, without 147 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: reading the ingredient list, it's probably a little bit uneducated, 148 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: all right. 149 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: A couple of questions on the text line for you. 150 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: Taylor says, is Hi, trac is B six the same 151 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: as six be as she wishes? 152 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 2: Ah, that's funny, not quite, but that'll probably gives you. 153 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: Well one, I'll give you more euphoria than. 154 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: The other year. Absolutely, And this person says and they're 155 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: not related to Big six scide suspect. But I am 156 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: fifty eight years old going through menopause. I find it 157 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: hard to lose weight, had a big appetite, also crave food. 158 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: I do try to exercise an hour each day. I'm 159 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: also on blood pressure cholesterol medication and have had a 160 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: fatty liver. Please help. 161 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it starts to get a bit complex as your age. 162 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: As we know, our bodies change, particularly you know, women 163 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 2: get that abrupt whole in hormones and it's generally well 164 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: whilst we need both estrogen, progesterone and testosterone, as those 165 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: overy start to cease their reproductive function, we end up 166 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 2: a little bit low in all of them. So take 167 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: out testosterone and that's kind of muscle definition and get 168 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: up and go. Estrogen defines female body and progesterone generally 169 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 2: just keeps us happy. So what happens when you take 170 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 2: that out We do lose that physique definition. We lose 171 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: a lot of mojo too, so you tend not to 172 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: be as dedicated to those exercise regimes. It sounds like 173 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: doing a great job there exercising. 174 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 3: In our day. 175 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 2: Sometimes when the appetite increases, what our bodies are looking 176 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: for They're looking for something. So our body will say, 177 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: give me this, give me that, because I'm looking for 178 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: those ingredients that make me work perfectly. And it's unfortunately 179 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: not very specific. And as we age or get busy, 180 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: we tend to crave carbs for energy and things more 181 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: than nutrients. 182 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 3: So you know, fatty liver, even. 183 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 2: Though the word fat is in that equation, fatty liver 184 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: often is derived out of it comes from a sugar issue, 185 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 2: not a fat issue. People on keto diets tend to 186 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 2: do a lot better than people on our high carb 187 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 2: or sugar diets. So you know, there's a lot of 188 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 2: look and I can only give eralized advice. People's stories 189 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 2: are so much bigger than what we learned in the 190 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: text or whatever. But I'd be looking at a huge diet. 191 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: This sounds like to me when the body's craving something, 192 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: something's missing. So let's get that biochemistry right. Make sure 193 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: you drink enough water, and you know, any menopause talk 194 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: I give, I'll say to people the basic things we 195 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: need for human health and life are hydration, nutrition, exercise, sleep, 196 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: vitamin A, sunshine, and stress management. You get those under control, 197 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: then come and see me and we'll work out whatever's 198 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 2: lingering at the end of the and those symptoms and 199 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 2: deal with those. But yeah, so in that circumstance, I'm 200 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: going to call it that there's probably a deficiency. 201 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, there we are, So go and see 202 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: Tracy or GP or absolutely. 203 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 2: You know, you can do some tests. Unfortunately there's not 204 00:11:55,720 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 2: a blood test for every nutrient, and for me, I 205 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: love those blood tests, but they can change. 206 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 3: Like you can do. 207 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: Someone could have a high meat meal the night before 208 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 2: fast overnight, have a blood test and your B twelve 209 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: looks fantastic. Other times, you know, you get someone that 210 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: doesn't eat meat for six days, has the same blood 211 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 2: test and there B twelve is low. So it can fluctuate. 212 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: As to I think you've got to take people's stories 213 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 2: into that equation to get a much more accurate picture 214 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 2: of what's actually going. 215 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: Well, it's worth coming to see you because Lynn has 216 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: written and says I went and saw Tracy at Stirling 217 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: last week. She only spent a couple of minutes with me, 218 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: but from my description, went straight from my liver. Put 219 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: me on vitamin B complex and it's already having an effect. 220 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: I went for several tests got them back today and 221 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: yes there's a liver malfunction issue and offer an ultrasound. 222 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 2: Glad I nailed at Lynna. Welcome to see me anytime. 223 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: Good eh, there, we are all right. We will take 224 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: a quick break. Tracy Yenda is here. We are talking 225 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: about well B six primarily, but things that can go 226 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: wrong if you have too much of one thing. 227 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 3: Well, any vitamins or absolutely. 228 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: Back after these were five double a nice with Matthew Pantalis. 229 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: Tracy if here and happy to give you some good 230 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: health advice over the phone on anything you like. We've 231 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: been talking about over using vitamins and the symptoms I 232 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: suppose Tracy, what should people look out for if they 233 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: are well? 234 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: What we're going to do is take a step back, 235 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: and we've got to understand that vitamins are an essential 236 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 2: way of us in regulating various metabolic and biologic activities 237 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 2: in our human bodies. 238 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 3: But over consumption and prolonged. 239 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 2: Use of anything, whether it's a pharmaceutical or a vitamin, 240 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 2: should be monitored, measured, or whatever, because both water soluble 241 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 2: and fat soluble vitamins can lead to accumulation, and B 242 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 2: six is a perfect example of that despite being water 243 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 2: sol and a toxicity technically is quite rare. I think 244 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 2: we look at the factors. You know, for me, it 245 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: would be how many people are dehydrated. If we want 246 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 2: to get clear our body of water soluble vitamins, we 247 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: need to drink more water and get them through the kidneys. Now, 248 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: what we also need to know is, you know we 249 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: take them. Why do we go and pick a multi vitamin? 250 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: We pick them because we want to improve our health, 251 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: or we've been diagnosed with a deficiency, or generally just 252 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: want our well being to be better. It doesn't always 253 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: mean they're safe. There's a common misconception that just because 254 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: something's natural means it's safe. Well, we know that's true, 255 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: but you know, all drugs, all vitamins, all herbals and everything, 256 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: they have a pharmacological reaction on the body, so our 257 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 2: body has to deal with them. Not everyone will react. 258 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: But that's what we're all so different. We're not one 259 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 2: size fits all. Everyone's got a different diferent genetic code. 260 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 2: It's different lifestyle, different behavioral and different nutrients, so different diets. 261 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 2: All of those things add up to what makes you 262 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: know our needs but also our excesses and deficiencies possible, 263 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: so we call it hyper vitaminosis. Don't you love that word? 264 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 2: I love that word. Is a condition where someone's taking 265 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 2: an excessive amount or there's an excessive build up of 266 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 2: vitamins in the body. Right, So this often comes out 267 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: of high dose supplements. I get people come and see me, Matthew, 268 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 2: and they say, oh, I read this thing on Facebook. 269 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 2: Of course I listened to this podcast and I take 270 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: ten thousand international units of vitamin D day and I 271 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 2: just about shudder because that is a fat soluble vitamin 272 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 2: that can accumulate in the system. 273 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 3: The body can. 274 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 2: Store it right now, Whilst we know vitamin D deficiencies 275 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: are rife, toxicities can also cause problems as well. These 276 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: are not safe levels for people to consume. These need 277 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: to be monitored with blood tests and also updates with 278 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: your doctor to see where you're at. You know, vitamin 279 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: D particularly is a transient level. It's better hopefully over summer, 280 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 2: not so great over winter. It depends on how active 281 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: you are. If you're lower magnesium, your body won't convert it. 282 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: It needs vitamin K. All of these factors involved. So 283 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: your story is going to be different to mine. So 284 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 2: I would say Matthew, Well, you probably get out more 285 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 2: in the day than I do. 286 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 3: Because you work in the evenings. 287 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 2: So I'm over winter stuck in the office from nine 288 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: toll three or four. I don't get much sunshine. So 289 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: how will we differ, Well, you take the dog for 290 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: a walk in the morning or whatever it is, you 291 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: probably get more sunshine than me. But everyone's different, and 292 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: we're so verse two slip slop slab, Yeah, cover art yep, 293 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 2: and yeah, see how. 294 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 3: That affects us. 295 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: But I think the key to this is making sure 296 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: we are well monitored or looked under the guidance for 297 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 2: a practitioner. Nothing good comes out of Facebook information or 298 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of companies with exceptional marketing departments. 299 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: It doesn't mean they're the best products. 300 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, there it is. Tracy yan is here 301 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: for another half hour or so. We're going to break 302 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: for the news. Eight double two to three double O 303 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: is the number if you've got any health related questions. 304 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: She is here to help the Green dispensary at Sterling 305 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: five double A nice with Matthew Pantalas. Tracy Yend is 306 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: here taking your calls as well. We've been talking about 307 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: over doing vitamins. But your calls count and Wendy is 308 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: rung in from the Barossa Internanda High Wendy. 309 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 4: Hello, Hi Wendy, Hi, Hi Tracy, Hi. 310 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 3: How can we help you? 311 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 4: Wendy, Well, we've hit a little bit of a brick wall. 312 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 4: My husband had major back surgery in two stages. The 313 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 4: last second surgery was eight weeks ago, and from that 314 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 4: day on he suffered them very low postural hypotension. 315 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 3: Oh no, yeah, it's not uncommon. 316 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 4: Following major surgery apparently, and he is eighty years old, 317 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 4: so the age is not good, but it is very 318 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 4: very slowly abating, but he still suffers from periods of 319 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 4: very low like he feels like he's kind a saint 320 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 4: and dropped to the ground when it stands up. And 321 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 4: been prescribed something to help which cannot say the name. Yeah, yeah, 322 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 4: ye mid a dream yeh yeh mighta dream which should 323 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 4: have helped me pretty much immediately if it was going 324 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 4: to help, but it hasn't terribly And we're just wondering 325 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 4: if there's anything in your line of descriptions that might 326 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 4: be helpful for him. 327 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great question. 328 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 2: And mina dreams are often used for pot set posture, 329 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 2: orthothetic techi carrier being that sort of you know, dizzy, 330 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 2: blood pressure dropping, etc. 331 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,959 Speaker 4: Sorry sorry, I was going to say the blood pressure 332 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 4: pen drops from lying lying down one hundred and seventy 333 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 4: on something, sitting one hundred on something and then standing 334 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 4: down to seventy something on. 335 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 2: Wow, that's a significant drop. Is he on any other medications? 336 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 4: Well, yes he is. He's let me think, oh, you're 337 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 4: going to trick me now, No, no, no, Yeah, he's 338 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 4: on a duo dart yep. He's been just ceased from 339 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 4: the tiresome because of the blood pressure problem. 340 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 3: Yep. Yep. 341 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 4: He was put on that following a spent many years ago, right, 342 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 4: a heart spent, and just other like chelesterol lowering, rollering 343 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 4: lad not much else really. 344 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 2: Okay, so none of those were started new at the 345 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: time he had the surgery, yep, not start as new. 346 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 2: He does he eat okay? 347 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 4: Yes, he's eating quite well now, yep. 348 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 3: Is he well hydrated? 349 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 4: Yes, he's very conscious of drinking a lot of water. 350 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 4: That has been helping. 351 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 3: Okay. 352 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 2: And did they when they put him on the minor 353 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 2: dream looking at that sort of postural stuff, did they 354 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 2: ask him to increase his sodium or potassium. 355 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 5: No, there was no. 356 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 4: Mention of that. What is that placy that he's had 357 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 4: extensive heart monitoring to rule out any any cardiac issues there, Yeah, 358 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 4: that's the proved hasn't proved to be the case. 359 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 2: No, but I'm assuming he's not on any blood pressure 360 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 2: medication obviously, so he. 361 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 4: Was previously on a drug board dualism to regulars following 362 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 4: state deceased. I've got rid of that. That's gone. 363 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. Has he had any blood tests for his electrolytes. No, 364 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: that's usually your general biochemistry, so he possibly has, just 365 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 2: no one's reported or said anything about it, but no. Yeah, 366 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 2: I'm just wondering because quite often and obviously without a consultation, 367 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 2: this is very general advice and annoying snippet of your 368 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 2: husband's scenario. But I do use, if people aren't on 369 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 2: blood pressure medications, a little bit of electrolytes and a 370 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: little bit of salt in there as well to help 371 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 2: stop those fluctuations. Because your electrolytes are basically responsible for 372 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 2: the electrical activity of your. 373 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 3: Heart, you must your brain everything, so. 374 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 2: Often with those pots conditions, we would use things like 375 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: salt or electrolytes alongside of those treatments. So, yeah, it 376 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: might be worth having a bit bigger conversation because based 377 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 2: on Hubby's age and the fact that he's had those 378 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 2: surgeries and things, we could probably have a bit bigger chat. 379 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 2: I'd need to know a lot more about him to 380 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 2: prescribe specifically for him, but there's certainly something, you know, 381 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 2: there might be some options that we can do to help. 382 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 6: Oh that's lovely. 383 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 2: Yes, I'll pop my number at the end of the show, 384 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 2: so grab a pen and yeah, give me a call 385 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 2: and we'll have a chat about how to help. 386 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: Thank you, Tracy, We thank you, Colleen. But Leia, Hi, Colleen, Hi, 387 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: I have a few questions. 388 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 6: I'm trying to get my blood pressure down. In the 389 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 6: last six months, it's gone up from one hundred and 390 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 6: twenty seven to one hundred and fifty nine and then 391 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 6: it comes back down and the doctor serves will just 392 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 6: monitor it. I have entered a shoulder so and I'm 393 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 6: a very bad sleeper, and I have got hired tornium. 394 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 6: So at the moment, I'm taking a trip fifteen. I 395 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 6: think that's half of a ten minute gram tablet pan 396 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 6: because of the hernia. If I feel nauseo. So what 397 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 6: was that prayman or it's called medico for nausea yep, 398 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 6: And I'm taking so Mac twenty minute grams morning and night. 399 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 2: Ooh, And there might be some of the issue because 400 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 2: with your somac, it's really really effective drug, don't get 401 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 2: me wrong, but we have to take into consideration that 402 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 2: that can interfere with the absorption of things like calcium, magnesium, iron, 403 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 2: and B twelve. 404 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 6: Right, can I run through the herbs and worldly vitamins 405 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 6: and I'm taking Trumer three one zero zero and vitamin 406 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 6: D three thousand iu kylik m and then I'm taking 407 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 6: the megaphold zero point five Women's multi and the asterisk 408 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 6: for the cadech. 409 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 3: Okay. So even with that, we know those. 410 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 2: PPIs or proton pump inhibited drugs do block things like magnesium. 411 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: So vitamin D is absorbed better with magnesium, And yeah, 412 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: that sounds like it might be. That's very magnesium has 413 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: properties of being muscle relaxant and kind of protective to 414 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: heart muscle and calming and all of those, So there 415 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 2: might be How long have you been on that one on? 416 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, a couple of years now. 417 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 3: When did your blood pressure first start. 418 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 6: Going up only about the last six months since I've 419 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 6: been on probably the trip saying. 420 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 2: Okay, so I might be worth having a nice big 421 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 2: chat with your pharmacist if that's a link, and ask 422 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: them to perhaps discuss or give you a print out 423 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 2: of you know, the drugs and possible side effects. 424 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 6: So I'll read it because I have got the print out, 425 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 6: but I just thought there was just something else that 426 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 6: I'm missing with it. 427 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 3: Do you drink enough water? Do you drink a couple 428 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 3: of liters. 429 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 5: Of water a day? 430 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 6: Do you know a lot of people that do? I know? 431 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: But you know the body needs fluid and the lower 432 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 2: you're you know, if you're dehydrated, your heart has to 433 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 2: pump a whole bunch harder to get a smaller amount 434 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 2: of field around, so that can impact your blood pressure. Right, 435 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 2: diet can impact your blood pressure. You know you're having 436 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 2: too much? Sometimes I don't watch. 437 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 6: The dit quite yep, because I've also got chrome's decease. 438 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 6: So I'll watch my diet thoroughly excellent. 439 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 2: So try and get your water out for a start. 440 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: How often do you monitor your blood pressure? 441 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 6: Only when I go to the doctor, So no, I'm 442 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 6: not going to be got to do it every day, 443 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 6: every second day or anything like that, only when I 444 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 6: go with the doctor's which is the normal three nuthly check, 445 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 6: or in between when I'm not well. 446 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it is a common phenomena. 447 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 2: We used to as my background's a registered nurse, and 448 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 2: we used to call it white itis. And people would 449 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 2: notoriously have an increase in their blood pressure when they 450 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 2: would visit their doctor or you know, and you comment 451 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 2: to that your blood pressure sometimes the one twenty, but 452 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 2: would go up to the one fifty. So if you're 453 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: already measuring when you go to the doctors and it's 454 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 2: having that little spike, it could just be purely because 455 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 2: you've gone to the doctor and your blood pressure goes up, 456 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 2: but then it comes back down again. So a couple 457 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 2: of things there. I would one, make sure you're drinking 458 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 2: enough water. That is so important to help keep your 459 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 2: heart healthy and everything else in your body healthy. Get 460 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 2: yourself a little bloo pressure machine and take it at 461 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 2: various times of the day when you're stressed, when you're 462 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: not stressed, and that outside of going to the doctor. 463 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 2: And don't get me wrong, I love my GP. I 464 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 2: think I have one of the most fabulous GPS. But 465 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: at the same time, I still get that I feel 466 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 2: like a naughty little school get when I go to 467 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 2: the GP and that have that authoritarian sort of role. 468 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 2: But it's a pretty common phenomena. If you're only measuring 469 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 2: it when you go to the doctor, there's a good 470 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: chance it's from going. 471 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 3: To the doctor. 472 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 2: Oh okay, but I would look yeah, once again, general advice, 473 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 2: these are just factors that may contribute to that. I 474 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 2: would have much bigger conversation with you to go through 475 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 2: so many other parts of your world and your life 476 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 2: that I don't know about that we would then come 477 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 2: to conclusions to try some other stuff. But the first 478 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 2: thing I would do, Colleen. 479 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 3: Is get your water up. 480 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 2: Okay, that's it'll make a massive difference. But you can 481 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: buy really cool little blood pressure machines. Now they're not 482 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: overly expensive, they're relatively accurate, and you can, let's say, 483 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 2: do it when you get up in the morning, do it, 484 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 2: you know, the end of the day, do it in 485 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 2: the middle of the day. 486 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 3: But just then you can get a bit more of a. 487 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 2: Visual and you know as to what your blood pressure 488 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,719 Speaker 2: is actually doing on a more regular basis. 489 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 6: Okay, all right, Well, I'll try that. Otherwise, you just 490 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 6: turn the corner. I'll come around. 491 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 2: I'd love to see you. 492 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 6: You have already seen me, but i'll come rightly gain. 493 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 2: Okay, oh that's nice, but yeah, definitely comes. Did I 494 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 2: tell you to drink water the first time? 495 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 6: I no, you just cautioned me because I had a 496 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 6: bad shoulder. And you cautioned me on paracetamol. 497 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: Oh. 498 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't generally caution people of parasenea. It's just 499 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: you've got to be careful how much you take. 500 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 6: And you just said to you, why are you take 501 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 6: et cetera? And I just said that I had an 502 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 6: injured shoulder, et cetera. And you looked at me as 503 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 6: if to say, right, just take them when you need to. 504 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 2: No, Look, paracenema can be an awesome drgue if it's 505 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 2: not in excess, but you've got to look at It 506 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: does affect glutamine in the gut and other things, but 507 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: it doesn't generally get to the root cause of an issue. 508 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 2: And yeah, I think obviously I didn't know about the 509 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 2: blood pressure thing and other other factors, so I think 510 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 2: there's probably a lot we could do to help you 511 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 2: as well. 512 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I'll just let the bart pressure go. As 513 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 6: you said, we quite often measured it three times or 514 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 6: was that the doctor's ruse, But it's still stayed up 515 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty nine or you know, one hundred 516 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 6: and fifty seven. Yeah, so I'll try and do what 517 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 6: you know. I'll go and look at a machine and. 518 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 2: Look and even if you don't buy a machine, most 519 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 2: pharmacies will happily take your blood pressure for your very 520 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 2: You just pop in and just you can get leaven 521 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 2: a little booklet that you can keep a. 522 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 3: Record of your blood pressure. Okay, so you can do 523 00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 3: that if you're not. 524 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 2: If you I don't really want to buy a machine, 525 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 2: but do that. But I can't recommend enough getting your 526 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 2: fluids up. 527 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, there we are, all right, Colleen, thank you for 528 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: the call. Eighteen past nine before we go to a break, 529 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: Tracy Sandy says, Hi, Tracy, I have an extremely high 530 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: stress load, have developed some mild perimenopause symptoms, mainly fatigue 531 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: and brain fog. Otherwise no other chronic illnesses, in a 532 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: healthy weight range, and neat a very clean, low carb diet. 533 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: I'm considering hormone replacement therapy, but wondering if there are 534 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: more natural ways for me to address these symptoms. 535 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 2: Look, there are, and you have to weigh up what 536 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 2: the symptoms are, how they're impacting your life, how you function, 537 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: and things like that. So there are some great products 538 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 2: on the market that can really help. Are they at 539 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 2: the extent or the level of potentially supplementing with hormone replacement? 540 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 3: Possibly not? 541 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 2: But then too, you know you've got someone who eats clean, 542 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 2: they're feeling good. What's the brain fog from? Is it 543 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 2: because we've come out of winter, we've cooked our food, food, 544 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,959 Speaker 2: Our B vitamins are low, that sort of thing. 545 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 3: Vitamin D can you know, change your mood and give 546 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 3: you more anxiety. Things like that. 547 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 2: So there's a whole bunch once again of factors there 548 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 2: that we'd look at. I always say to people, you know, 549 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 2: we've got this awesome Pandora's box of different treatments. So 550 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 2: sometimes it might be nice to go, Okay, well let's 551 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: get you buiochemistry right. We'll get that working perfect first, 552 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 2: and then we'll see what's left. But start off with 553 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: the lesser and go to the greater, because if you 554 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: go to the greater, you'd never know if anything under 555 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 2: that works and I'm not saying the herbal stuff's lesser. 556 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 2: It's what comes down. You know, someone who eats clean, 557 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 2: exercises healthy weight, looks after himself, they're a perfect candidate 558 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 2: to get some great results from herbal and natural medicines. 559 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: It's the other extent where people's you know, quality of 560 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 2: life is so affected. That's when you'd be looking at 561 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: the hr T. So everyone's different, but you know what 562 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 2: you're never going to know. 563 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 3: You give it a tat all. 564 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: Right, Tracy yan does here eight double two three double 565 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: Ie some great health advice here on five Double A 566 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: twenty past ninety five Double A Nights with Matthew Pantellas 567 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: and with Tracy Yane. Marty has called in from Salisbury Heights. 568 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 4: I Martie, Oh, I am Matthew. 569 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: You're good, like just. 570 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 5: Got a bit of a well, I suppose a second opinion. 571 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 5: I've got a friend of mine. He's he's in his 572 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 5: late fifties and he seased to be fitting sort of healthy. 573 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 5: And we were chatting the other day, and I was 574 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 5: actually talking about your show, and he takes a fair 575 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 5: few sort of vitamins and orbits and sort of pieces. Anyway, 576 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 5: I was chatting to him and he says, oh yeah, 577 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 5: so it takes me a while to get through him 578 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,239 Speaker 5: in the morning. So anyway, conversation went on. Asked him 579 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 5: what he was taking and you pickquin. He went through 580 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 5: a bit of a list and I sort of stopped 581 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 5: him part way through and I said, how many how 582 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 5: many blimming things do you take in the morning? He 583 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 5: is all thirty five in the morning and fifth and 584 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 5: fifth and fifteen at night. 585 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 2: Mousers, And I just thought, what that's insane and expensive. 586 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean, but this guy is you know, 587 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 5: I don't want to sort of I mean, he's pretty, 588 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 5: he's very smart guy, and I think he works in 589 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 5: the sort of medical medical industry sort of thing. And 590 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 5: but but he's got he's gotta. He keeps this sort 591 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 5: of Mediterranean diet and he's I mean, he's just he's fine. 592 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,479 Speaker 5: But I just thought, and it was it's just been 593 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 5: bugging me and I went ring you last week, but 594 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 5: unfortunately I missed you. You came to the end of 595 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 5: your bit of a segment. But I mean, I'm just 596 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 5: it's look just as just as a question. I mean, 597 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 5: I'm not going to say anything to him because he's 598 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 5: a good friend of mine, but I'm just a bit concerned. 599 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 2: Look, and you have right to be concerned, and that's 600 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 2: what this segment's actually about. But you know, my questions 601 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 2: would be to him, is he self prescribed them? Is 602 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: he buying them online? Or what's he buying? You know, 603 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 2: has he looked into all the ingredients of every product? 604 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 2: Does he know whether there's some that overlap because nutrients 605 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 2: can you know, particularly vitamins and minerals, particularly for every 606 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 2: synergist they have, they also have an antagonist that bumps 607 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 2: them out or blocks their function or or you know, 608 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 2: and the opposite helps their function. So you know, when 609 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 2: you start taking a multitude of things and I look, 610 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 2: I've only ever seen one person and it was recently, 611 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 2: and she had been prescribed thirty five tablets a day 612 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 2: from a practitioner, which alarmed me senseless and it was 613 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 2: you know, there was breakfast, lunch, and dinner and she 614 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 2: just said, I can't keep up with this. 615 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 3: And I looked at it and I was mortified. 616 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 2: I've never prescribed anyone anywhere near that level of supplementation, 617 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 2: and personally, I've never taken it myself. So my question 618 00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 2: would be, you know, if you've got someone who eat 619 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 2: really healthy and they exercise, they I will hydrate it. 620 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 2: There's probably not who need for anywhere near that. 621 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 5: And I should say to him. I did ask him. 622 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 5: I just said, well, hang on, you know, have you 623 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 5: have you run that past to GP and whatever? He goes, Oh, yeah, So, 624 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 5: I mean apparently he's met he's mentioned it to his GP, 625 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 5: and I mean, apparently it's I'm not being funny, but 626 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 5: I got to I shouldn't say this, but I don't 627 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 5: know whether the GP he's got something to do with 628 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 5: the fact that he's taking that. But apparently he says no, 629 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 5: but some of your big quinola, apparently some of the 630 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 5: things he's had, you know, some of the things have 631 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 5: been recommended by his GP. So and that's why I thought, well, 632 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 5: you know, I'm not going to ask you to make 633 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 5: a comment on what a GP says, because that's not 634 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 5: ethical from your point of view. And I mean, I 635 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 5: wouldn't want to put you in that situation. But it's 636 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 5: just been nagging me, and I'm listening. I listened to 637 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 5: you every week, I listened to Matthew every evening, and 638 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 5: I mean I just thought, oh, and I just couldn't. 639 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 5: I just couldn't help myself. I had to ring you 640 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 5: up just to run that past you. 641 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have big question marks over anyone that 642 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 2: needs that level of product and thing. And you know 643 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 2: there's a different thing where you know, like I said 644 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 2: the other day, a GP had made a comment to 645 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,919 Speaker 2: a patient, I'll stop taking magnesium because you've got high 646 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 2: B six. That's not an accurate thing unless you know 647 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 2: that particular product they're taking actually has B six in it, 648 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 2: and a lot of magnesiums don't. So you know, you 649 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 2: might say, well, I take you know, U biquano, and 650 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 2: I take this, this, this, and this. The doctor goes, oh, 651 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 2: that's fine, and that's okay. But I would personally if 652 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 2: that was me, I would sit there with him and 653 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 2: go through every bottle, every ingredient and make sure and 654 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 2: you start adding up what you're taking, what levels of 655 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 2: this nutrient you're taking, and when you start to see 656 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 2: those patterns on repeat, then you start to get sort 657 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 2: of those little irritations in the side that go, yeah, 658 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 2: this isn't completely right. And two, like I say, you know, 659 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 2: you can nutrients butt heads. You take iron, it can 660 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 2: bump out zinc and calcium you can take too much 661 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 2: of something. You know, you take too many calcium supplementations 662 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 2: and you can end up with too many, too much 663 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 2: calcium in your bloodstream, and you know you need then 664 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 2: vitamin D. 665 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 3: So is there a. 666 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 2: Digsaw puzzle for this person or is there just a 667 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 2: big bag full of supplements? And my head would say 668 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 2: there's possibly a big just a big bag full of supplements. 669 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 2: It's very easy, you know, if you don't feel great 670 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 2: or as your age, you know, our physical body, you know, 671 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 2: life takes. 672 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 3: It's told a bit more. 673 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 2: And we're all looking for that magic pill to go 674 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 2: what can I take that's going to perk me out, 675 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 2: pick me up, make me feel like I'm twenty one again. 676 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 2: Well I haven't found it. 677 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 3: By the way. 678 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,240 Speaker 2: But at the same time, there's some really convincing marketing 679 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 2: campaigns and internet you know information things that make us 680 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 2: all go, wow, that sounds amazing. I want to try that. 681 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 2: But you know, then you get a supplement that take 682 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 2: six a day and you start to question, well, is 683 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 2: that excessive or whatever. You look at vitamin bottles and 684 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 2: they will tell you, and supplement bottles they will tell 685 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 2: you the maximum kind of safer amount you can take 686 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 2: when you probably need one or two, not six a day, 687 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 2: but they'll sell more if you take six a day exactly. 688 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 2: So I think it's this is where you need the 689 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 2: guidance of somebody who is qualified in that realm to 690 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 2: be a part of that person's healthcare village and maybe 691 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 2: even summarize and liaise with the doctor as to what's 692 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 2: being taken, because some things can actually cause significant harm 693 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 2: and we have to be sensible. So but do I 694 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,959 Speaker 2: think thirty five pills in the morning and fifteen at. 695 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 3: Night is normal? 696 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 1: No way does anyone? No, surely not. 697 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 2: Wouldn't be hungry, That's it exactly. I think, well, well 698 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 2: done to you for questioning that, Marti, and it might 699 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,479 Speaker 2: just be worth just being good mate and just saying 700 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 2: you know what, how it just gets you know, a 701 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 2: bit bigger picture because sometimes it's like, you know, you 702 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 2: start taking something and you don't really know if it's 703 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 2: working or art, but you think, oh well, I better 704 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,439 Speaker 2: keep taking it, and it's hard to measure. So yeah, 705 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 2: I definitely would get those reviewed. 706 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: Thanks, thank you, see it Okay, just before we wind up, now, 707 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,399 Speaker 1: we've been talking a lot about vitamins minerals. What's their 708 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: role in all of this, you can you over do. 709 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 2: It on minerals, absolutely, any minerals. So minerals also have 710 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 2: toxicity as most of them are fat soluble, so that 711 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 2: means they go into the cells. 712 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 3: And you know, whilst these are. 713 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 2: All essential, moderation is the key for most of them. 714 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 2: You know, you look at things like excessive supplementation, so 715 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:54,879 Speaker 2: taking two higher doses without supervision can one lead to toxicity. 716 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 2: For example, you know, too much zinc can cause nausea, 717 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 2: but it can also block copper and vice versa. You 718 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 2: take copper, it can block zinc. You take iron, that 719 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 2: can give you gastrointestinal upset. If in excess constipation, it 720 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 2: can actually cause in severe cases, organ damage and coma, 721 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 2: So you want to be a little bit careful. You know, 722 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 2: excessive calcium leads to hyper calcemia, so too much calcium 723 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:25,359 Speaker 2: in the blood, kidney stones, it can cause vascular calcification, 724 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 2: It can cause heart arrhythmia. So all of those things 725 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 2: you want to make sure you've got them imbalance. Do 726 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 2: you take calcium, well that's great, but you also need 727 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,320 Speaker 2: vitamin D, magnesium, vitamin K, all the other bone factors 728 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 2: to make them useful to be taken to bone. 729 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 1: The Mitry's got a question for you. He claims to 730 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: be eleven. Can kids his age be taking vitamins or 731 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: maldi vitamins to help them develop and grow? 732 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 3: Well, that's a really good question. It depends on cod 733 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 3: liver oil. 734 00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: I reckon. 735 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 2: That's really good, vitamin A and D. But you know 736 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 2: some children do need multis. And what you've got to remember, 737 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 2: children are using twice as many nutrients as adults because 738 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,280 Speaker 2: of their rapid growth throughout the ages. So it depends 739 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,240 Speaker 2: on diets. A lot of kids are picky or fussy eaters. 740 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 2: That doesn't cover a big nutrient pool. But then on 741 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 2: some respect you get kids that eat beautifully. 742 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 3: And you don't need that problem. 743 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 2: So it comes down to everybody's individual needs. It's not 744 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,479 Speaker 2: about one size fits all. And I think that's where 745 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 2: natural medicine does offer a really nice sight to this. 746 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 2: It's like, well, what do you need as an individual? 747 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,800 Speaker 2: And I know for me, I will fix the biochemistry first. 748 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 2: So if someone's irons out, there's zincs out there, d's out, whatever, 749 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 2: let's fix their little digsaw puzzle because then everything works better. 750 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 2: But you know what, there is sometimes a knee to 751 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,720 Speaker 2: bump up certain things in the diet that are lacking. 752 00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: Okay, now, if people want to come and see you, 753 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: do they find you these days? 754 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 2: Yep up at the Green Dispensary at Sterling, which is 755 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 2: on Unit one forty one Mount Barker Road, Sterling. If 756 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,399 Speaker 2: you can't get in, give us a call on eight 757 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 2: double three nine one three four seven. Can I answer 758 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 2: us some questions or you know what, I might just 759 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,800 Speaker 2: be the person to listen and point you in the 760 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 2: right direction. 761 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: Terrific Tracy, Thank you as always popping in. 762 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 3: Absolute pleasure to be here, Matthew 763 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: Tracy, Green Dispensary at Sterling and soon to be heard 764 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: on Saturday nights here on five double A