WEBVTT - ROUND 18 PREVIEW: GET BURTON TO THE EELS! - Why Burton would be lethal next to Moses 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:07.600 Welcome to the Code n r L Show. 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:09.799 Ricky O here with Bret Reid, Michael carry on and 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:13.920 here we are boys, another episode of What Is Can 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:16.040 I just say the ratings are going off the chart 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:19.280 on YouTube, Spotify and on the Code platform. 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:22.040 But honest, any feedback on your crumb Land? 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:28.319 No, no, We've got plenty of Producer Jason is saying 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:30.720 there was feedback on the crumb Land and was it 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:31.920 thumbs up or thumbs down? 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:36.040 It was, yeah, so it should have It was a 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:40.319 thumbs down and so it should have been. There you go, 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:45.240 you love your madness. We'll get into Rudy's dietary habits 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:47.280 a little bit, a little bit later. 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:50.840 I've just done as I don't want to say something else. 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:54.200 I just said, we don't want to get into it, 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:57.160 just said we'll get to it later. It is state 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:01.040 of origin countdown to the Decider. Fellas up in Brisbane 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:04.800 sun Corpse Stadium. Queensland should be short priced favorites. 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:06.600 In my eyes, you declared it unlosable. 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:10.360 You declared it unlosable for New South Wales three weeks ago? 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:12.920 What exactly? 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:14.119 That was my reply? What? 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:14.560 What? 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:14.800 What? 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:16.720 Ulsi wal? 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:18.160 He said, this is an unlosable series. 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:20.640 You said it on this podcast and then you retracted 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:22.800 it very quickly with hold on you there was an 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:26.000 imbecilic thing to say, unlike Dave who this is unlosable 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:27.280 series of Queensland. 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:30.559 Thank you, Mick. Look, I would have had Ethan Strange 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:33.000 at six. I thought what he showed in Origin one, 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:35.440 and I was a support of Mitch Moses playing in 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:39.240 Game two. But just the way Mitch came back against Para, 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:42.960 I had concerns and I love the way Ethan's Strange 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:47.240 just never dies wondering. So it leads me to the 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:50.120 question of around Mitch and this Origin performance. I don't 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:53.840 think we've ever seen Mitch under I'm not saying pressure 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:56.560 because of the way he's playing, that's a factor, but 0:01:56.680 --> 0:02:02.200 because he's got a genuine play are applying serious pressure 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:03.640 to his representative Jersey. 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:06.600 I also don't think he's play been out of this 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:07.520 form before. 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.639 Mitch, like he's he hasn't been great for Paramatta, wasn't 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:12.560 great last week when he went back. So I think 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:16.320 the question marks around Mitch is around his own form 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:17.239 as well. 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:19.560 And Laurie Daddy has gone all in on Mitch Moses. 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:20.600 There's no doubt about that. 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:23.520 Laurie backed him from the moment New South Wales one 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:25.720 Game one, he backed him to play Game two and 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:29.359 he's backed him again. And you know, Mitch has had 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:32.000 an underwhelming season for the stands that we all thought 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:32.720 that he could get. 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:33.760 We thought he could. 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:35.239 Win the daily end at the end of the season, 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.360 and you know, obviously injuries have played a factor, but 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:39.160 he hasn't been anywhere near his best this year. 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:42.919 Would you have had Mitchell Strange Strange? I okay, exactly 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:43.280 what you said. 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:45.480 I would have picked Mitch of a Game two, but 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:49.040 he didn't play well and it Strange deserves a crack 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:50.359 after what he did in Game one. 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:55.040 Do you think that this is Mitch's last crack. 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:59.880 At the Blues Jersey, certainly as a six, given the 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:01.360 pressure from Strange? 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:02.360 No, I don't. 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:04.640 I don't because I think he's too good of a player. 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:09.480 But if he's in a similar vaniform next season or 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:10.520 the good will will be gone. 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:10.880 Right. 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:15.280 He's been picked on past performances this year and I'm 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:19.160 comfortable with that. But yeah, he needs to play better 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:22.000 if he's to play Origin next year. I'm not prepared 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:23.880 to write him off, regardless of the result. 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:25.400 He is thirty two at the end of this year 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:27.120 right as well, so it's at the back end of 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:30.079 his career. But I was a midch supporter. I think 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:33.239 it's the right decision because I think you need experience 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:35.320 when you're going up to some corps stadium and decider 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:37.640 like this. Mitch has played in one, he's won one, 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:41.000 he did two years ago, and I think that he's 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:42.560 the right guy for it, right. I think he's kicking 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:45.400 games ments. We've spoken about that before, and I know 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:47.640 he's out a form, right, he's not playing his best, 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:50.920 But I mean Ethan Stranger dosn't have the greatest year either, 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:52.880 canber What are they? Second? Third? 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:53.280 Last? 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:56.440 Yeah, he hasn't set the world on fire. So I 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:58.760 just think in that atmosphere. I've said it before, I 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:02.160 think fun Cook can swallowed people up right, and it's 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.880 going to be going off next week. We know what 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:07.320 that's like. And I think it's the right man for 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:09.320 it because I don't did it'll face him. In fact, 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:11.000 I think he loves that stuff, Mitch. You know, he's 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:13.160 got a bit of win, know, Mitch, You've got a 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.520 bit of swagger, a band, a little bit of clockiness, right. 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:18.560 I think going up there being the being having the 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:20.719 opportunity to be the man out Sun Corporate when he. 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:23.800 Also had that opportunity at the McGue he did. 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:25.760 I agree with it. Yeah, and he wasn't his best 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:26.120 down there. 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:31.000 If his performances for Parramatta were better, I would pick him, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:33.880 But it's that footage on three sixty. 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:39.600 He's one of those players where I understand that got 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.000 him twice in that there's certain players in the game 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:45.920 who I reckon at times you can disregard their form 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:49.640 in Clubland. I don't agree with you, you know, I 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:51.840 just think I don't agree with guys. 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:54.560 I just think it's it hasn't been a bad it 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.240 wasn't a bad game. It's been a bad period. That's 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:00.000 the that's the problem. If he shot the lights out 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:01.839 before Game two and then went back and had an 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:05.839 average performance of paramatter, he hasn't played well this year. 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:07.640 That's my concern about. 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:12.159 What about dovetailing to paramatter? Mitch Mitch in Paramatter and 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:15.720 Paul Crawley raised the example of you know, we give 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:18.120 Latrell a hard time about hold. 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:21.880 On when you say we, that's not me, that's YouTube blokes. 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:28.039 We don't the hard time comfortable with the amount of 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:28.719 games he's played. 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:32.400 Well, no, but I'm comfortable with paying paying him. It 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:36.080 was when he plays plays they're a different footy team. 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:38.719 Sorry, I chose my work to correctly. I don't mean 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:39.360 a hard time. 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.680 We put the spotlight on la Trell's amount of games 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:45.640 he plays, and now Paul Crawley has given the example 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:49.680 of Mitch's games played great comparison. 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:52.040 And Tommy is the other one right as well for Manly. 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:57.240 But yeah, Mitch hasn't played anywhere near enough forty and Paramatter. 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:58.000 So what's mitchworth? 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:00.320 Question? 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:04.480 Half backs have paid way more than betters. So if 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:06.120 you're giving Latroll one point four. 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:09.680 Would you argue that Mitch's influence on Paramatts it's as significant. 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.440 No, I think it's I think it's greater. I think 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:16.719 it's greater because players surrounding easily greater. 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:19.960 Yeah, I don't know, half I don't understand that. 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:22.000 Yeah, I don't know if it's easily greater, but it 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:25.400 is greater generally. I think around the roster build as well, 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:29.400 Like Dows have a better team than Paramatter right without. 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:30.680 They still a lot on Latrell will win games. 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:34.560 The entire paramounta team. 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:37.680 He runs the team, but without Paramatter, without Mitch Moses, 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:41.120 Paramatter had no chance of doing anything. Okay, Daubs can 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.240 still play finals footy without Latroll. Good point, they can 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:47.480 still play finals footy. I'm not saying they can win 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:49.120 the comp. They can't win the comp without Latrell, but 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:50.680 they can play finals footy without the tram. 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:54.800 Right, That's that's the difference, right for listeners. What's an 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:56.719 example of what Mitchell is on currently? 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:00.919 He could be the second top three paid player in 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:04.120 the game, if not the second, behind Kaylin and then Nathan. 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:05.080 Yeah. 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:06.080 Right, they're the top three. 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.600 Paid players about one point two, No more than that 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:12.120 one point four. Yeah, that's one point four now, right, 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.920 And I understand what Paramount did it. He's the second 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.360 best half in the game. You can argue around Jerome 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:21.560 Hughes and he's so influential, but they haven't got back 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:22.040 for their butt. 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:23.640 And I'd argue if he's got a ratchet cause in 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:26.200 his contract, which I imagine he has, when he hits 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:28.680 twenty twenty eight, he's going to be on one eight, 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:32.440 one nine, close to two million dollars. Right, So when 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:33.440 you talk about. 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:35.200 Thirty three. 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.920 When you talk about influence of latreel v Mitchell Moses, 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:41.000 you're also talking about one point four, which I said 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:44.320 La Troll should get compared to closer to two million 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:47.240 dollars Mitchell Moses, because that's what Playmakes is going to 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.680 get under the new seat, under the new salary cap. 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:51.600 Yeah, but I understand that, but I wouldn't like. I 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:53.520 know that's the deal that's already in place, but he's 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:55.120 not worth well. 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:56.560 He will be when he will be when the cap 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:58.280 is what's going to be in twenty twenty eight. 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:00.280 I don't think he is. That's what he'll get aid. 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:03.600 But he just said power can't win without him. But 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:04.800 you're not going to pay him top dollar. 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:07.760 Not at thirty three, thirty four. We're talking. I'm talking 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:09.320 thirty three, thirty four, thirty three. 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:12.000 What's he's thirty two the end of this year, so 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:14.720 we would start that season in twenty out season thirty 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:18.000 three years old. He actually finished the season thirty three 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.400 because his birthday is in late September of. 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:25.600 The Yeah, and based on the form so far this year, Oh, 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:26.800 you couldn't. 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:27.840 They can't win without him. 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:30.400 But if you can't win with him at the moment 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:33.400 because he's not playing well. But what are you saying 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:34.400 he's two million dollar player? 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:35.199 He's going to be. 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:38.040 I mean, he will be. But I understand I understand that. 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:40.720 Paramotter, he is worth that, right because where they're going 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:43.200 to get someone who's as influential as him on that 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:45.880 footy team, He's going to be worth that. That's what 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:48.880 he will get. Did you disagree. 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:51.080 I'm not disagreeing, Okay, I'm just not saying that's what 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:52.560 I would pay. Hi. I don't think that's his worth. 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:55.560 What about Paramatter's recruitment as a whole and where do 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:57.920 they go to next season or. 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.200 Everything we've just spoken about with Mitch. What is this 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:01.720 team look like for Paramount? 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.360 They missed out on Bronson Cherry, They've been they had 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:08.240 a crack at Kalama Tungey, they were interested in, Mitch Barnett, 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:10.280 YEP signed Jad and Sewer. 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:11.800 Jesse McClain they're interested in. 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:17.600 And then then yeah they need to add too Lung 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.000 he's being released, Yeah because of the Sewer. 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:24.000 Junior Barlow yet to confirm. Yeah, very close. 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:28.239 The issue for Paramatta goes back to very who who 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:30.160 are their marquee players? 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:37.760 Mitch joshadows he's not a marquete. 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:40.080 Yet much else. 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:40.880 That's that's the. 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.040 Problem they've got. 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:47.520 So they've got Mitch on one point four ish still 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:49.839 will be on on good money, but then it falls 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:51.480 Bat Junior Bilo is on good money this year. But 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:53.079 then they've got a lot of four to six hundred 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:56.800 thousand dollars players, right. They need top end talent. That's 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:59.080 what they're lacking. They've got the foundations of a good squad. 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:00.920 The young is a g Josh had a cast, a 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:05.440 little good and good plan. But they're lacking that top 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:08.280 end talent and until they get that, they're not going 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:08.760 to compete. 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:10.480 I think I think they've got their favorites. They've got 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:13.680 basically their spine set and stone right, and you've got 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:16.320 only a fullback, Mitch half back. 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:19.079 Tell them to silver talent, tells a good plan. 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.840 Could be a good player. I don't think he's but 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:23.839 he could be down the track. They just need to 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:25.840 land a six, which is what we spoke about three six. 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:27.600 You know, you talk about we spoke. 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:30.000 About Maddy Burton. You know they if they can somehow 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.280 get Matt Burton out of the Bulldogs, paying a fortune 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:35.280 playm at six. You don't like that. 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:42.160 Idea fortune six from a club. 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:43.120 That's moved into the center. 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:48.640 Yeah, because it hasn't worked with Galvin clearly. But it's different. 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:52.160 It's different because Mitchell runs. 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:53.600 Everything's point is correct. 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:56.440 Have to do the money that I'm arguing with, Well, 0:10:56.440 --> 0:11:01.120 if he's just starting six, yeah, that commands top dollar, 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:01.960 is it not? 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:04.160 Not? No, No, it just depends on the player. 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:05.480 Well, he's a good player. 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:06.439 He's a good player. 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:08.960 He's on a million dollars now, yep, he's not going 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:11.320 to take a pay cut. If you're buying him to 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:14.000 play six at your footy club, he's not going to 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:16.280 take a pay Agree with the game we're talking about. 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.240 The CAP's gone through the roof. You've got to remember that. 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:20.760 I agree, I've got to think differently. 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:25.040 Agree with everything that you're saying. Okay, I just don't agree. 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:25.280 With the number. 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:26.760 What number they played Matt Burden. 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:29.960 I'd keep him at a mill Max, Well that's fine, Max. 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:31.560 He's probably not going to get that at the Bulldogs 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:35.319 because he just said to them. But no, I'm with you, 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:39.120 but that's top end money. Yeah dollars. 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:45.880 Yeah, I'm he's not a representative player. 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:46.560 Well, he is. 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:49.079 He played Game one Origin, but no, I know, I 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:50.920 know he did. He played six minutes. 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:53.240 Yeah, yeah, he's made Origin previously. 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.320 He's He's just not He's a very good. 0:11:57.040 --> 0:12:00.320 You've played top big money for a starting five eighth, 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:02.520 who isn't the best in that position. 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:04.640 The only think he's in the top five in that 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:08.679 defense and read his defense. He would compliment Mitch beautifully. 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.400 He's a type of player and you look at you know, 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:15.080 players that are in that position. That's why Dylan Brown 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.280 and Mitch worked well because of the fact that you know, 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:19.120 Mitch could own the side and Dylan was a bit 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:20.240 more carefree and could run. 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:23.600 You know, they had Mark. You said they needed elite marquee. 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:24.920 Tell me they had that in Dylan. 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:25.959 They had it in Zach. 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:31.880 Yeah, but they added Zach's out of their control. 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:34.040 They could have got Zach back. He wanted to come 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:36.000 back too. 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.760 Far gone by then. And Dylan Brown you just weren't 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:39.439 going to do well. 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.600 Something was going on because they can't. They're not getting on, 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:43.600 They're not getting Barnett. 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:46.400 But there's reasons for some of the. 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:52.720 Five years, like Parak, You've got the thing with param 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:56.960 Paramount paramatter I would say is they've shown a little 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.480 bit of restraints, their conservative and I think I think 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:02.040 the danger is when you're a club work power and 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:06.120 you're chasing signings a bit like the Dragons, right, You've 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:07.800 got to be careful you don't go too far and 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.280 get yourself in a position where down the track you're 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:13.520 going to pay a price. And maybe the Dragons will 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:15.559 do that. With key On, I mean, as I said, 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:16.360 I know you've. 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:18.400 Been critical of Power for Zach Lomax and not getting 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.560 anything in return. What about the criticism of the Melbourne 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:22.680 Storm who could have had Zach Lomax? If the elect 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.040 Jack Hawarth go now they want to elect Jack Haworth 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:26.199 go and what have they got it in turn? 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:30.120 That's that's the blunder, not Paramatter. That's more of a 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:35.600 blunder for mine. I think Rosey needs to lean on nothing. 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:40.720 I think in I reckon what happened, I reckon what. 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:43.480 Ant para signed Jack health would be a good signing 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:43.840 for him. 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:44.800 Yeah. 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:48.400 Maybe what I was about to say is when coaches 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:52.120 are in this situation and I reckon, I reckon, Saints 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:58.160 would be considering this too. Does your coach have recruitment power? Yeah, 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:01.160 does your coach have pulling power to a track player? 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:03.199 I think and what I'm going to say is rolls 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:07.040 In needs to lean on his relationships of the previous 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:10.920 clubs he's coached at to attract talent. So Jack Howarth 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:13.560 he does fit that bill, he's worked with him. 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:16.839 Nosing the fripped that back a little bit, dare like, sorry, 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:19.280 expand on what you're saying, does your coach what about 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:19.760 your club? 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:22.480 Right? Does your club have that power? 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:22.960 Right? 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:25.720 And when you're looking and you're breaking it down, take 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:29.600 the Bronson Sherry situation. You've got Craig Bellamy Graham, Hughes, 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.680 Cam Monster, Harry Grant or telling you this is what 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:36.360 I've done right. Then you've got you know, Jason Rowls 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:38.400 and Mitch Moses. There's no one who says so this 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:41.200 is what I can do right. So the difference of 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:44.040 the proof in the put in at Melbourne compared to 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:46.960 a picture of I'm selling hope in a way at 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.080 paramatter and that's that's the problem. 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:52.960 Well, if that's the case, on that premise, they're going 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:56.120 to struggle to buy elt talent right, so what they 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:58.280 need to do then then you go the opposite end, 0:14:58.320 --> 0:14:59.640 you go and get the best younger, but. 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:01.800 They did the youngest and telling the silver. 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:03.720 Yeah, and try and get plays back. 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:06.640 But the other problem with that is, right, this is 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:09.240 problem Mitchell Moses is what do we say, thirty three 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.400 next year, he's running out of time. Yeah, but you 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:15.880 need to strike now. Well, Mitch is definitely you know, 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:17.360 basically I wouldn't say. 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.320 It's why he's the billboard. 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:21.720 Yeah, you've got to You've got to get someone now 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:23.920 that's going to because this side, I don't think this 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:28.440 side's miles away from from being foot team. 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:31.120 Right their top end there are two top end players away, 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:34.760 which is either to say but they're they're million dollar players, 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:37.720 two million dollar players, or like a strike center and 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:38.920 another middle. 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:39.440 They should have read. 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.360 Really that would concern me. 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:45.800 Why let's try and get. 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:49.560 Him next year has to be otherwise I'm not considering it. 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:51.680 It has to be. That was where I was coming from. 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:55.080 Yeah, but you have read on the condition you can 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:55.840 get him next year. 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:57.400 West Tiger's Fellows. 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:01.200 This is a monster game at Michael Carryana's Park, i 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:06.280 Jubilee Oval, where he would where Yeah, he would often 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:09.000 be found in the early days from the ages of 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:11.880 three to seven. He was found rolling down the back 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:17.880 of the hill, sliding down on cardboard, the cage. 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:21.360 Whatever you need. 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:24.480 From then he moved to the banners and he started 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:28.280 riding banners house down. I did not do what else 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:34.480 you're making me hornby Mary, Hail Mary, Bail Mary. They 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:36.840 had some good From then you march the streets when 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:38.440 the joint venture unfolded. 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:40.160 This is the story of Michael. 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:43.800 Anyway, we are in Jubilee Oval, massive game for the 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:49.120 West Tigers. I'm just going cold on them. I'm going 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:52.120 were talking about maybe or maybe I'll be proven right. 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:55.400 I just I can understand why they're just trading water 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:59.480 a bit, and they need to win this one. They 0:16:59.560 --> 0:16:59.960 have to win. 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.000 They've got to win. They play the Dragons twice to 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:06.400 finish the season. Got to win both those games. Must wins, right, 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:09.359 Their draw is not that bad coming home. I still 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:12.640 think they can make the eight. Maybe I'm the only 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:15.440 blake with the flame still burning, but I'm in Benji. 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:17.400 Trust baby, I think they can make the eight. Still 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:19.040 Warrior smirk and you think they're gone. 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:24.440 Aside from I've got a very good side from analogies 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:28.160 and in Benji, we trust. Can you can you talk 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:30.840 me about the roster? And there is no Jerome uwife 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:31.600 for this game. 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:33.800 But they played well without Jerome of times this year. 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:37.640 Madden and do his back keep them? 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:39.639 Alex is back to if is. 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:43.320 Another week away maybe, but I still if they win 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:45.960 this week, it's back on. 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:48.240 But Dragons are a chance. I haven't said this well 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:50.840 when I said this all year. I think the Dragons 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:53.280 are a genuine chance. I think twins inclusion is huge 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:56.520 for the Tigers. He wasn't playing, I'd probably be brave 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:58.560 enough to tip, might tip the dragon. 0:17:58.800 --> 0:17:59.320 I'm not sure. 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:02.879 Well, I think I think what's holding your back? I 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:03.880 think what's holding your back? 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:05.240