1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:04,479 Speaker 1: On scorn lits Oscodia. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: This is the Reader Paney Show. 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Reader Paney Show. 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 4: Coming up tonight, a special interview with former New South 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 4: Wales Police Minister and Assistant Commissioner on the Cronulla Riots, 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 4: The truth behind that infamous moment in Australian history. The 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 4: ABC spending record amounts of your money despite the audience 8 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 4: numbers are shrinking. 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 3: I'll speak to you for a McQueen about that. 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 4: US President Joe Biden refers to half the country as garbage. 11 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 4: Army Horowitz will join me with the latest from the 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 4: US and of course left he's losing it. 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 5: My biggest ops are on love Trump Trump absolutely so 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 5: will you wake up and think about her? 15 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: Yes? 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 6: Constantly every day? Do you go to sleep and think 17 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 6: about it? 18 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 5: Yes? 19 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 7: Every day? 20 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 3: Sounds a little in love. 21 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 4: Let's start with Opposition leader Peter Darton calling on the 22 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 4: Prime Minister to refer himself to the National Anti Corruption 23 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 4: Commission over the free Quentas flight upgrades He's solicited and 24 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 4: he also questioned whether Albanese's relationship with Kontes and Alan Joyce, 25 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 4: the former CEO, may have influenced his government's decision to 26 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 4: stop Qatar Airways from running additional Australian flights. The question remains, 27 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 4: did Anthony Albanesi, as Minister for Transport breach the Ministerial 28 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 4: Code of Conduct. 29 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 8: Well, certainly on the face of reading the Gillard government 30 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 8: to minister or Code of Conduct, the Prime Minister has 31 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 8: breached that by his own admission. I think it's a 32 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 8: matter that should be referred by the Prime Minister. I 33 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 8: think the Prime Minister should take the initiative to refer 34 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 8: this matter to the Integrity Commission because I think there 35 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 8: are lots of questions about mister Albenze's credibility and his 36 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 8: integrity in relation to the Qatar decision. 37 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: Joining me now for more on this. 38 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 4: As Sky News contributor Pro McSwain prou the Qatar decision 39 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 4: may come back to haunt Anthony Alberaneasi. It was a 40 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 4: decision that was hugely beneficial for quantas, but you can 41 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 4: make the argument it hurt Australian travelers who are paying 42 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 4: more for airfares in part due to the lack of competition. 43 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 9: Well, Rita, that's what made Chip's all about. 44 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 10: You scratch each other's back, and you look after each 45 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 10: other and you know, who cares if the traveling public's 46 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 10: going to pay more. Look, there's no doubt in anyone's 47 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 10: mind that he's on thin ice. That the Prime Minister has, 48 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 10: on the face of it, breached the Code of Standards. 49 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 10: You know, three point one point eight clearly says you 50 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 10: cannot solicit you know, benefits for yourself or your family, 51 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 10: and one would expect that that will come out eventually. 52 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 9: He's lost all authority and that's his problem. Now there's 53 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 9: no credibility. 54 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 10: There's even memes going around, can we upgrade our PA? 55 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 9: You know, they've already hit the ground. 56 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 10: He once actually accused Scott Morrison of being tarnished by 57 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 10: his own hubris. Well, we're looking at that right now 58 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 10: with this Prime Minister. He's compromised his position, he's compromised 59 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 10: the traveling public and frankly he should I believe he's 60 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 10: going to survive this. 61 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 9: Report himself to the NACC. 62 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 10: He needs to come clean and either fall on his 63 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 10: sword if it's proven that he has breached the code, 64 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 10: or at least show that he's a man. 65 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 9: You know, man up. Stop trying to off escape and 66 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 9: worm your way out of it. You're just looking ridiculous. 67 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 3: True, You're so right. 68 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 4: It shows a sense of entitlement here from the Prime 69 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 4: Minister and it challenges this entire brand he's built around 70 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 4: himself of being this down to earth, relatable man who 71 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 4: grew up in public housing and understands the concerns of 72 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 4: everyday Australian's dealing with cost of living crisis, dealing with 73 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,119 Speaker 4: a housing crisis, and then in the space of two 74 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 4: weeks pro we've had him buy a beach house for 75 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 4: over four million dollars, not very relatable, and now this, 76 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 4: and this is arguably far worse because at least the 77 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 4: beach house was his own money. This is him benefiting 78 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 4: from freebies thanks to his position. 79 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 9: Well, it's talking to his poor judgment too, you know. 80 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 10: Is he that out of touch now and so enamored 81 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 10: of his role that he thinks he can get away 82 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 10: with these things? You know, it's just he clearly is 83 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 10: not taking any advice and if he is, maybe it's 84 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 10: from charmers. 85 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 9: Who's after his job, because this is a good way 86 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 9: for charmers to be marching into the PM role. You know, 87 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 9: I really can't help but feel that Alban. 88 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 10: Eazy won't recover from this I think he's a dead 89 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 10: man walking when it comes to being PM, or in 90 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 10: fact being re elected under the Labor Party. So you know, 91 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 10: there's a lot more to play in this and the 92 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 10: Libs are not going to let it go away. 93 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 9: He's tried to distract it with the. 94 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 10: You know, bringing the COVID report out a couple of 95 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 10: days earlier. He thinks, nothing to see here, look over here. 96 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 10: We're not that stupid. 97 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 9: We're not going to let this go and he's going 98 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 9: to be accountable. 99 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 7: Now. 100 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 4: The Victorian government's war against property investors continues. 101 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 3: Not only have they. 102 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 4: Hiked up land tax, imposed a raft of onerous conditions 103 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 4: on landlords, and stripped away property owners' rights, and that 104 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 4: is set to intensify further prough with six fresh reforms 105 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 4: set to be written into law over the next twelve months. 106 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 4: Landlords will lose the right to choose who lives in 107 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 4: their properties. Essentially, they can't just evict tenants unless they 108 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 4: have damaged property, failed to pay rent, or if the 109 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 4: owner needs somewhere to live and has to move back. 110 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 4: You can't just choose who's going to live in your property, 111 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 4: which seems incredible to me. 112 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 3: There will also be banned. 113 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 4: From having tenants pay penalties for breaking their lease. The 114 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 4: maximum a tenant will have to pay is four weeks 115 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 4: rent even if they break a twelve week or twelve 116 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 4: month rental agreement. All of these measures pro just add 117 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 4: up to making it less attractive for mom and dad 118 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 4: investors to enter the property market in Victoria. And it 119 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 4: means the pull of rental properties is going to shrink further. 120 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 3: And push up rents. 121 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 4: So though this is supposed to help renters, I think 122 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 4: in the end, it's going to hurt them. 123 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 9: Well, it really is. You know, who would be an 124 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 9: investor in Victoria? Now? You know it's the politics of envy. 125 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 10: And you have this ridiculous claim that they're going to 126 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 10: build more houses. Well maybe the intention is, but whereas 127 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 10: everybody going to rent in the interim while this goes 128 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 10: on and frankly with the CFME, you are running right 129 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 10: down there and everywhere. You know, we will see if 130 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 10: those houses get built. But why would anyone invest when 131 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 10: you think that a lot of the people who are 132 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 10: investors are just ordinary mum and dads Australians who've worked hard, 133 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 10: either tradeesh've got their own business, who just want to 134 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 10: or school teachers, people who just want a little nest 135 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 10: egg when they retire. They're not these you know, die hard, 136 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 10: lethal landlords who are there to screw over the tenant. 137 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 10: You know, I had investment properties and the tenants that 138 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 10: look after them, you love them. You don't want to 139 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 10: lose those people. The last thing you do is treat 140 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 10: them with contempt. But in this case, you know, Victoria 141 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 10: I think was leading the wave. 142 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 9: We're investment properties. 143 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 10: You're going to be one of the last states I 144 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 10: believe that will have people wanting to park their money there. 145 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 4: It's too risky, oh absolutely. And there are biased advocates 146 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 4: leading bias advocates who have told their clients do not 147 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 4: invest in Victoria because this war against property investors. It's 148 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 4: a real thing, and there is a reason why so 149 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 4: many are selling up, and it's really putting a strain 150 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 4: on the rental market. And you feel sorry for the 151 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 4: renters who have no option but to rent. When there's 152 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 4: not that many properties left to rent, the prices go up. 153 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 4: Now let's talk about the ABC. The twenty twenty four 154 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 4: annual report has just been released and the public broadcaster 155 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 4: spent a record amount one point one to three billion 156 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 4: in taxpayer funds over the last financial year. The government 157 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 4: is budgeting for them to spent even more this financial year, 158 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 4: despite the fact that their audience is plummeting prove and 159 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 4: I do wonder where the accountability is here. The ABC 160 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 4: only generated around one hundred million in revenue last year. 161 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 10: Well what's our ROI you know, And whenever you're investing 162 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 10: in anything, you have to think what is my return? 163 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 10: And frankly, as one of the people paying. 164 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 9: For the ABC activists, you know, I want my money back. 165 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 10: You know, we have this situation where you know, they're 166 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 10: saying that they've done a lot of job cuts and frankly, 167 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 10: a lot of those people you wouldn't feed, let alone 168 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 10: put near a microphone. But they must be running out 169 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 10: of activist journalists to actually employ, because you know, it's 170 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 10: just ridiculous that you have this situation where the national 171 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 10: broadcaster is so predictable, not reflecting what Australians want to see, 172 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 10: and hear losing audiences like crazy, and we keep. 173 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 9: Throwing money at them. 174 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 10: There is no accountability clearly, and governments, consecutive governments of 175 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 10: the Limbs as well, have not had the guts to say, okay, 176 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 10: we're going to sell you off, privatize you, or you 177 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 10: can and you can become a streaming service from McSwain. 178 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 3: Thanks for your time tonight. 179 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 4: Now I'm looking forward to this next interview with a 180 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 4: former police minister and police commander that may change how 181 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 4: you view the Cronulla riots. That infamous episode in two 182 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 4: thousand and five is one we all recall. It's a 183 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 4: shameful incident in Australia's history, instantly recognizable as one of 184 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,119 Speaker 4: racism and violence against the Middle Eastern community. 185 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 11: It was billed as the day Cronulla residents would take 186 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 11: back the beaches, but it soon turned into a riot. 187 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 11: Thousands of police officers used battens and capsican spray to 188 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 11: control an angry mob that had gathered at Coronella Railway station. 189 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 11: Hords of angry youths had been tearing around Cronulla all 190 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 11: day looking for a fight. Their target anyone of Middle 191 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 11: Eastern appearance where they claim have been harassing locals at 192 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 11: the beach. 193 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 4: But that narrative is far from the full story, and 194 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 4: a new book sheds further light on what really happened 195 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 4: and what preceded and followed the Cronulla Riots, written by 196 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 4: former New South Wales police minister Carl Scully and former 197 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 4: Assistant Commissioner Mark Goodwin the Cronulla Riots. The Inside Story 198 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 4: details the true motivations behind the riots and exposes the 199 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 4: previously unspoken of revenge at tax planned by some men 200 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 4: of Middle Eastern appearance that were ultimately foiled. Kyl Scully 201 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 4: and Mark Goodwin join me now. Carl, I'll start with you. 202 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 4: You were police minister. You threatened to put army troops 203 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 4: on the streets unless police numbers were boosted significantly. Tell 204 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 4: me about the volatility of that period and why you've 205 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 4: written this book. 206 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 12: Well, firstly, we were getting frightening intelligence. Certainly Mark Goodwin 207 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 12: was passing it on to me, and I did not 208 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 12: feel a commissioner was treating it seriously. After the initial 209 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 12: protests on the eleventh of December two thousand and five, 210 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 12: he was allocating six hundred troops at six hundred police. 211 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 12: I didn't think that was enough, and so with my 212 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 12: nudging and instigation and threatening to bring soldiers in, he 213 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 12: increased that to two thousand. 214 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 6: Combined with the police. 215 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 12: Powers that we extended in a parliamentary sitting just some 216 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 12: four days after the initial event, and all of the 217 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 12: special branch branches available, special commands available, police were able 218 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 12: to quell descent and bring order back to the streets 219 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 12: and suburbs of Sydney. 220 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 4: Mark Were these rights entirely about race? Was it a 221 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 4: race based conflict? And tell me about some of the 222 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 4: more serious payback plots that were uncovered and ultimately foiled. 223 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 13: Certainly Rita, we would say the actual causal factor of 224 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 13: the riots was in civility on the beach. There was 225 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 13: groups of young men coming from the western suburbs down 226 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 13: there and there was a lot of misogynistic comments made 227 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 13: to young girls. There was gangs, There was incidents in 228 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 13: the car park, there was incidents in the mall at 229 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 13: Cronulla and built up over a long period of time. 230 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 13: There was this disquiet that became a community outrage. With 231 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 13: the assault and the lifeguards, that was pretty much the flashpoint. 232 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 13: What's been reported over the years and the narrative written, 233 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 13: I suppose what pushed by academics is only focused on 234 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 13: the daytime events at Cronulla, where certainly there was racism, 235 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 13: there was racist slogans, there was racism used. 236 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 6: But what we say is that there was a lot 237 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 6: of sprookers. 238 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 13: In the crowd that day. They didn't come from the 239 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 13: Carnella area. They were driven by racism, they were driven 240 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 13: by white supremacy, and I think a lot of the 241 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 13: young people down there from the area and also outside 242 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 13: the area really lost their way and we spected them 243 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 13: later and they also they don't know what overtok their 244 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 13: heads that day, but. 245 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 6: What really occurred. 246 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 13: The journalists went home, there was a lot of stuff 247 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 13: in the evening news about what occurred, which enraged the 248 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 13: people from the western suburbs. Then we had these massive 249 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 13: revenge attacks which literally went for weeks, and the intelligence 250 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 13: we had over those period of time was absolutely frightening. 251 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 13: I mean, there was entire suburbs destroyed, broken windows, cars smashed, 252 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 13: people being baseball battered, stabbed, gunshots fired, churches burnt down, 253 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 13: and it seems over the years that that's sort of 254 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 13: the site of the riots has been almost forgotten about. 255 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 13: And some of the intelligence that we had, including a 256 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 13: hand grenade attack and drive by shooting with machine guns 257 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 13: on a hotel at Cronulla which was foiled, and certainly 258 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 13: another massive attack that was going to occur at Westfields 259 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 13: at Miranda that was foiled. These incidents just seemed to 260 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 13: have disappeared into obscurity over. 261 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 12: The years aps if I could add to that retail. 262 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 12: If you google any photo or videographic evidence of the riots, 263 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 12: ninety nine percent is a bunch of marauding and abreated 264 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 12: white guys wandering around looking for Arabic others to bash, 265 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 12: and so academic social commentators developed a truth that the 266 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 12: Southern Shire was a racist Caucasian enclave. We challenged that 267 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 12: truth because the evidence is quite to the contrary. As 268 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 12: Mark outlined, there were far more violent and just as 269 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 12: biggoted and racist elements in response. But we challenge what 270 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 12: inspired the events, and we conclude that whilst it was 271 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 12: racist and bigoted on the surface, little of it was 272 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 12: motivated by racism. There were other factors at play, and 273 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 12: that's what is the central part of our book. 274 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 4: Well, tell me a bit more about those other factors. 275 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 4: You mentioned that they had to badly behaved men terrorizing 276 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 4: young women on the beach, making comments that were unacceptable. 277 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 4: What other incidents led up to that upliness exploding? 278 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 12: This invites a broader question where we challenge our celebration 279 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 12: of multiculturalism, and we conclude that most people like to 280 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 12: have order and sameness, and we should search for what 281 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 12: we have in common rather than overly celebrate our difference. 282 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 12: And what happened on the beach we call it the 283 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 12: towel versus the soccer ball folks weren't wrong, just different 284 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 12: communities having different notions of how to use the beach 285 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 12: and what was pretty uncivil behavior. I have no doubt 286 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 12: if Caucasian surfers traveled to outside the mosque in Lakember 287 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 12: and use similar misogynistic language, there would have been a 288 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 12: riot then, so uncivil behavior, misogynistic attitudes, using the beach 289 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 12: in an unfriendly way. But if it was about Caucasian 290 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 12: and Arabic supremacism, then this would not have gone away 291 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 12: and never to return, so it invites a greater scrutiny. 292 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 12: There was deep seated racism between different parts of Sydney. 293 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,959 Speaker 12: It would have constantly come back every second weekend. And 294 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 12: one of the things that fascinated is Rita is when 295 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 12: we interviewed a number of Lebanese Muslims, they told us 296 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 12: they grew up on Cronulla Beach every weekend, some of 297 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 12: them for decades, and they never had an issue ever 298 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 12: until this short period came and went. So it invited 299 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 12: a greater scrutiny than just looking at the videographic and 300 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 12: photographic evidence that you've just displayed earlier, because you look 301 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 12: at it reata and I think, my goodness, that's shocking, 302 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 12: and it was shocking, but so were the revenge attacks 303 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 12: multiplied by five that has Mark alluded to. We see 304 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 12: little of. 305 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: Oh. 306 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 4: Absolutely, there has been this very simplistic narrative that's taken 307 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 4: hold and it's one that the media likes. It ticks 308 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 4: all the boxes of their worldview and that's what they've pushed. 309 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 9: Mark. 310 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 4: What is the biggest misconception about the rights that you 311 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 4: like this book to correct? Is it what preceded it 312 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 4: or the enormous incidents of violence that followed that really 313 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 4: didn't get the coverage they deserve. 314 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: Read. 315 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 13: I think history has been skewed over the years, as 316 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 13: we've already pointed out, by the fact that there was 317 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 13: so much build up of media leading up to the 318 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 13: day that I think every journalist in Sydney turned up 319 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 13: at Cronulla on the day and then, to be quite 320 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,479 Speaker 13: frank with you, may I was there. And history's been 321 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 13: written by people that weren't participants, but the journalists that 322 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 13: were there during the day. Halfway through the day looked 323 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 13: though they were very despondent looks on their face. They 324 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 13: were going to go back to their editors and be 325 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 13: sacked because they had nothing to report. And then as 326 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 13: the afternoon and the alcohol war on, there were certainly 327 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 13: incidents which were captured by one hundred cameras from every 328 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 13: different angle. 329 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 6: Which is all the footage. 330 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 13: And as Carla's indicated, if you google, Coronella writes, now 331 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 13: that's all you will see is these images from the daytime. 332 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 13: Then that media packed decided it was all every and 333 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 13: went home. Weeks afterwards, the police dealt with these massive risk, 334 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 13: higher risk, extreme risk actually revenge attacks that were popping 335 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 13: up all over Sydney, and some of them outlined already. 336 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 6: So I think it's important that we'd. 337 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 13: Certainly like to see this book as the go to 338 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 13: reference now because it was a written by participants and 339 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 13: b it is a factual account of the actual incidents 340 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 13: and the truth of what occurred in the build up 341 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 13: on the day and also in the post events. 342 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: I think read a lot. 343 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 4: Of good police officers were hurt during that period, They 344 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 4: were smeared, defamed. Do you hope this book's going to 345 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 4: restore the good names of those police members whose reputations 346 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 4: were really damaged during that period. 347 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 6: I hope so. 348 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 12: Firstly, Sergeant Craig Campbell outside the Cronulla Railway station. 349 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 6: That footage was real. 350 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 12: He protected the lives of two people who were under 351 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 12: attack and lives being threatened. Superintendent John Richardson, who did 352 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 12: an enormous effort outside the lakember Mosque to calm tensions. 353 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 12: Mark Goodwin was one of the best senior executives I 354 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 12: ever had the pleasure of working with, and certainly during 355 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 12: my time as Police Minister. He did everything a senior 356 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 12: police officer who could be asked to do to restore 357 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 12: order in Sydney's probably most troubling period. What was his 358 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 12: reward He lost his career. Craig Campbell accused of excessive force. 359 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 12: John Richardson abused on the Four Corners program because he 360 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 12: didn't stop the convoy. 361 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 6: So I don't think the public. 362 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 12: Fully appreciate fix could have been a war on the 363 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 12: streets of Sydney if likes of Mark goodwhen his commanders 364 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 12: had not crushed the descent before it emanated from certain 365 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 12: suburbs of Sydney. 366 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 6: It was as. 367 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 12: Good and fine police work as I've ever seen, but 368 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 12: it doesn't get any credit. Nobody knows about it because 369 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 12: all I saw was this report that condemned that performance 370 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 12: without much justification. 371 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 4: Mark Goodwin, Carl Scully, thank you so much for your 372 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 4: time this evening. 373 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 3: Really appreciate it. 374 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you for your time. 375 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 4: Still to come, Lefties losing it class Joe Biden labels 376 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 4: half the country human garbage. 377 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 3: Ami Horowitz, we'll join the next. 378 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 4: Welcome back. Now it's time for lefties losing it. So 379 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 4: let's check in with the leader of the free world. 380 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 4: Remember him, the man who is currently president allegedly, the 381 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 4: man who has, with Kamala Harris, seen the country plunged 382 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 4: into an illegal immigration crisis at cost of living crisis. 383 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 3: The dude who talks about fascist even as. 384 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 4: He tries to bankrupt and imprison his chief political opponents. Well, 385 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 4: here is President Joe Biden calling half of America, half 386 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 4: of the country, human garbage. 387 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 14: Or Puerto Rico where I'm in my home state of Delaware. 388 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 14: They're good, decent, honorable people. The only garbage ac float 389 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 14: down there is his supporters. 390 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 4: Yep, they're still having a meltdown about a little joke 391 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 4: told by Tony Hinchcliff, not by Trump, by the way, 392 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 4: Trump didn't say. 393 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 3: The joke, and the media is fanning the flames. 394 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,719 Speaker 4: They spend more time on this nothing joke than they 395 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 4: did on the Trump assassination attempts. 396 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 3: They're scared. 397 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 4: That's why the Kamala campaign is faltering badly. 398 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 3: They are getting increasingly desperate. 399 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 4: And this is despite the fact that the Harris campaign 400 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 4: is outspending Trump and the Republicans by a huge margin, 401 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 4: spending more than three times the Republicans last month. But 402 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 4: the message is faltering. Could it be because their candidate 403 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 4: is uniquely hopeless? 404 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 3: What's here? 405 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 4: As Kamala takes a jubil moment at a rally where 406 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 4: everyone is chanting her name and completely kills the vibe. 407 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 3: Then she laughs hysterically for some reason. Now I want 408 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 3: to inter you to show your own name. 409 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 15: Do that? 410 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, that works really well. 411 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 4: As for the ads and celebrity endorsements, while they continue 412 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 4: to be cringe, here is I want to be first 413 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 4: husband Doug and knock them up, knock them out m 414 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 4: off starring in an ad with Doc Rivers. Watch this 415 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 4: and you'll understand why the Democrats have a man problem. 416 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 5: It does. 417 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 16: You're going to travel across all these we stays, right, 418 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 16: You're going to make sure this folks know the com 419 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 16: it's going to take care of all of them. 420 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 2: Just like you take care of a proton. 421 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 16: Yeah, Tony, you have to make sure everyone knows they come, 422 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 16: it's going to support their families. Wes, You're going to 423 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 16: make sure everyone know the karma and the perfective government 424 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 16: partner you got to complete and all of you you 425 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 16: must head to I will vote dot com to make 426 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 16: your plan to vote to vote for Conna. 427 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 3: I'm convinced that's just so bad. 428 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 4: And if you thought that was bad, take a look 429 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 4: at these lefties losing and the Democrat groups who have 430 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 4: released a pro pornography ad showing a man masturbating to 431 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 4: an X rated clip. Then he's interrupted by a Republican 432 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 4: who apparently is going to ban porn under the Trump administration. 433 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 3: This is what pure desperation looks like, folks. 434 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 4: And I can't show you the full ad because it's obscene. 435 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 17: Oh sorry, you can't do that. 436 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 3: What the hell, man, how'd you get in here? 437 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 17: I'm your Republican congressman. Now that we're in charge, we're 438 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 17: banning born nationwide. 439 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 6: You can't tell me what to do. Get out of 440 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 6: my bedroom retreat. 441 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 17: I won the last election, so it's my decision. I'm 442 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 17: just going to watch and make sure you don't finish illegally. 443 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 4: Oh dear, yeah, I can see what I have a 444 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 4: man problem. But there are white dudes for Kamala. A 445 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 4: lot of them need help. Check out this one broken 446 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 4: by Trump derangement syndrome. 447 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 2: See your biggest obstacle in life right now? 448 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 6: My biggest obstacle in love Trump? 449 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 2: Trump? 450 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 6: Absolutely So will you wake up and think about it? 451 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 2: Yes? 452 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 6: Constantly? 453 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 2: Every day? 454 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 6: Do you go to sleep and think about it? 455 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 5: Yes? 456 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 7: Every day? 457 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 6: Are you in love with him? I hate his guts? 458 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 4: Here is another white dude for Kamala, triggered by a 459 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 4: Veterans for Trump sign. 460 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 3: Watch what he does for to this. 461 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 18: Yard sign that reads Veterans for Trump. Abruptly kicks it 462 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 18: and wanders off. A minute later, he's back again, his 463 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 18: eyes focused on the home. Then, just after six, our 464 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 18: friend returns a third time, something yellow in his hand, 465 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 18: a piece of paper he leaves in the mailbox. 466 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 4: And the low life isn't done yet, not content with 467 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 4: seemingly stalking the house and kicking the sign. He left 468 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 4: this note for the man who is risking his life 469 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 4: for America. 470 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 17: As it talks about how I was a disgrace to 471 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 17: my country and a discrease to. 472 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 19: The US military because of my choice and candidate. And 473 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 19: you know, at the very end of the letter he 474 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 19: actually tells me to go to hell. 475 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 4: That's the tolerant, inclusive left for you, folks, that's down 476 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 4: in Florida. Can you imagine how triggered that guy is 477 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 4: going to be after election day. 478 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 9: Let's hear it. 479 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 4: Now from the woman herself. We need more Carmala in 480 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 4: our lives. She's doing more interviews these days, and that 481 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 4: means we're getting more incoherent gibberish like. 482 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 20: This, knowing that we also have the honor and the 483 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 20: duty of excelling in every way possible, being able to 484 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 20: see what is possible and not be burdened by other 485 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 20: people's limited ability to see the same. 486 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 4: I guess she can always go back to calling Trump 487 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 4: a fascist. Perhaps in citing another assassination attempt. 488 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 21: You called Donald Trump a fascist. The top Republicans in 489 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 21: Congress have called on you to tone down your rhetoric. 490 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 21: They say it's quote irresponsible anti Trump rhetoric, and they're 491 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 21: saying what you're doing could invite another assassination attempt against 492 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 21: Donald Trump. 493 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 3: How would you respond to that? 494 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 22: Well, first of all, I condemn any political violence of 495 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 22: any sort against anyone, but again, don't take it from me. 496 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,479 Speaker 4: Meanwhile, Donald Trump doesn't have to spend anywhere near as 497 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 4: much as Democrats when he's got folks on social media 498 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 4: taking his words and sending them to music like this. 499 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 3: This is the latest viral sensation. 500 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 6: Joe Biden is asleep, Kamala. 501 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 7: Is that a dance party with Beyonce Beyonce, Beyonce, Beyonce, Beyonce. 502 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 3: Beyonce, he is he? 503 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 7: Dance party would beyond saying dance party would bead saying 504 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 7: dance party would bead saying dance party would beyond saying, 505 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 7: beyond saying, beyond saying, beyond saying, beyond say party with 506 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 7: beyond saying, beyond saying, to beyond saying, beyond. 507 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: Says party with the anti saying dance party with beyond saying, 508 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: dance party with beyond saying he dance party with beanti 509 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: saying dance party with beyond saying, dance party with beyond saying, 510 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: dance party with beyond say, beyond saying, beyond saying, dance 511 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: party with beyond saying, beyond saying, dance party with beyond saying, 512 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: beyond say, dance party with bead saying dance party with 513 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: beyond say, beyond saying, beyond saying, beyond saying, beyond say 514 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: party would beyond saying, beyond saying. 515 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 3: Joining me now for more? 516 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 19: Is it? 517 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 3: Filmmaker and commentator Army Horowitz. 518 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 4: Army, a political peddle on CNN, has had an almighty 519 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 4: meltdown over a joke made by a conservative commentator, Ryan 520 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 4: Gardowski at He made the joke towards a pro Palestinian journalist, 521 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 4: Mehdi Hassan. This is a man who calls half the 522 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 4: country Nazis. But apparently that's fine. But when a conservative 523 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 4: makes a joke about a pager going off, let's see 524 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 4: the reaction. 525 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 3: Let's see the absolute meltdown. 526 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 6: If you don't want to be called Nazis, stop. 527 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 2: People by me. 528 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 21: I never call you an. 529 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying her saying I'm a set 530 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 2: of the Palestinians. I'm used to it. Well, I hope 531 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 2: your paper doesn't go off the thing is is that 532 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 2: you should know you should be killed. 533 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 4: Of course, he goes straight into victim mode, interpreting the 534 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 4: comment as some sort. 535 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 3: Of a death threat. 536 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 4: He did say, I hope your beeper doesn't go off. 537 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 4: He didn't want it to explode. 538 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 3: And the hysteria. 539 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 4: Continued nine ones today. 540 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 2: And so this is this is America. 541 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 9: Forget the racism. 542 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 2: That's which I should die. She said, what does mean? 543 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 2: Don't give me? What did you say? 544 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 9: People? 545 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 2: What did you mean by the beeper? What did you said? 546 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 3: Doesn't at least have. 547 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 6: The guts to support your racist com. 548 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 20: I'm so sorry, but I will tell you I don't 549 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 20: accept that apology. 550 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 8: And you don't even stay Its fine, that's what is disgusting. 551 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 3: But I can be offended when you don't even stand 552 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 3: to me. 553 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 6: I'm not Puerto Rican, but I was offended by what. 554 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: He said yesterday. 555 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 4: The hyperbole is off the charts. That Loan Conservative was 556 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 4: taken off and now Army has been banned from seeing it. 557 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, first of all, Rita, I sure hope that Rita 558 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 2: Patty extended Danzo mix that I saw before I was 559 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,719 Speaker 2: gonna make it on air. So I like what I 560 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 2: like the moves that I saw Rita. And by the way, 561 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 2: for my TikTok gen Z fans out there, I want 562 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 2: before I start, I want to say thank you Beyonce. 563 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 2: I don't want to die, all right? Moving on Mehdi Hassad, Yes, 564 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 2: why was Mehdi Hassan Manie Assad is a man Just 565 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 2: so we have some context here, right, he was. He 566 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 2: was fired from MSNBC. Not because he was a Katari 567 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 2: funded mouthpiece for the Hama supporting regime. No, he was 568 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: fired because he had horrible ratings. He was no Rita 569 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: Pannehy when it came to the ratings, that's for sure, 570 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 2: that's for certain. But yes, like you alluded to before, 571 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 2: prior to that exchange, he went on and said essentially 572 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 2: said that every Republican fifty percent of this country are 573 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 2: fascist and Nazis. I would take offense to that, and 574 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 2: of course Kodorski did because he is one of them. 575 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 2: So he was essentially be called a Nazi by this guy. 576 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 2: Now what do I think he's guilty of? Okay, it 577 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 2: was a lame joke, for sure. It wasn't really a 578 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 2: propose for CNN. Also, I know Gary was coming from 579 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 2: he was upset. It was a heated exchange. And by 580 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 2: the way, many a son not exactly a shrinking violet 581 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 2: when it comes to attacking his opponents, right, so let's 582 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: be clear about that. And then of course the reaction 583 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,479 Speaker 2: by CNN, of course was over the top, right, they 584 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: had to come with a statement, but they said, hey, 585 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 2: we don't accept bigotry, we don't want crossing the line 586 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 2: of civility. 587 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 4: And that hypocrisy is just so blatant. Like he said, 588 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 4: he caught half the country fascist. That's fine, there's no 589 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 4: problem with that. But they lose their minds over that 590 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 4: little joke by Tony Hinchcliff about Puerto Rico. 591 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 3: They're still talking about. 592 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 4: That, and this joke about a beaper going off apparently 593 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 4: is the worst thing that's ever happened on CNN, just 594 00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 4: on that Puerto Rico joke, which is still I can't 595 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 4: believe I'm still hearing about it. 596 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 3: Joe Biden has. 597 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 4: Responded by calling half of America garbage. 598 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 14: Or Puerto Rico. Where I'm in my home state of Delaware, 599 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 14: they're good, decent, honorable people. The only garbage I see 600 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 14: floating down there is his supporters. 601 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 4: Joe isn't really helping camalaor in these moments. 602 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 3: Is he mia. Do you think he realizes that he's doing. 603 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 4: Damage to her cause at times? Or is it just 604 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 4: a lucky accident. He has no idea what's happening? 605 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 2: Does he He didn't realize anything? Come on, look, first 606 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 2: of all, one comment, he's the president of the United States. 607 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 2: You see the framing on that. I mean, who like 608 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 2: It's like, literally, they're gonna use Sky News Australia's tech people. 609 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 2: Those guys are first class. It's like he just sat there, 610 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 2: no lighting, right, just no mic just threw the laptop up. 611 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 2: Was horrible. No, here's a no anything. And finally I 612 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 2: gotta say, I. 613 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 3: Kind of like nice timing your great grandpa. 614 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 2: Yes, oh no, great Grandpa's much I'm sure much more technical, 615 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 2: savvy and competent than uncle joke. Look, Rita, at this point, 616 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 2: I gotta blame you for elder abuse. Can you stop it? 617 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,919 Speaker 2: Can you leave the poor man alone? But you could 618 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 2: you just told me what he said. The only reason 619 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 2: I had to trust you because I couldn't understand the 620 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 2: word he was saying. I listened to that clip five times. 621 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 2: I had to slow it down. The guy cannot put 622 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 2: a sentence together. It's terrible. Now, look, I know he 623 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,959 Speaker 2: was ripping on the garbage joke right by Puerto Rico 624 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: and Hingecliff. I mean, look, was it a mistake to 625 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 2: bring Hingecliff on? Of course it was, But he is 626 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 2: an insult comic. It's what he does for a living. 627 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 2: That joke was not out of bounds relative to what 628 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 2: he normally says. 629 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 7: This is. 630 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 2: In fact, it was kind of tame Hinchle. That's kind 631 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 2: of what he does for a living. Do I like it? 632 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 2: Not particularly, certainly, not for an event like that. But 633 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, beyond the joke itself 634 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 2: was watch a God. I got so much joy watching 635 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 2: the media trying to make this a new cycle. Right. 636 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 2: They spent an entire week talking about this. They were squeezing. 637 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 2: So the trasque is much juice from a lemon that 638 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 2: was essentially dry. But it's hilarious. Whitman do it? Yes? 639 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 2: This is the party, the Democratic Party that calls for 640 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 2: civility right calling half the country garbage. That's very civil, 641 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 2: thanks Uncle Joe. 642 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 4: They have tried to get mileage out of this joke. 643 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 4: You know what I actually do like Tony Hinchcliff. I 644 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 4: love his involvement in the Tom Brady roast. That was brutal, 645 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 4: that was funny. I don't think it was a mistake. 646 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 4: I don't see Latino as some hyper sensitive group that 647 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 4: are going to change their vote based on a joke 648 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,280 Speaker 4: some dude, mate. It wasn't a joke that Trump utteroned 649 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 4: he was from. And George Lopez made even a more 650 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,879 Speaker 4: offensive joke, arguably at a Kamala rally just a few 651 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 4: days ago, suggesting that all Mexicans are thieves. I didn't 652 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 4: see any meltdown after that at Now. I know you've 653 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 4: been out there talking to people yourself, army, you hit 654 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 4: the streets with your camera, and this time you're asking 655 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 4: people to explain Kamala's speeches. So you would read out 656 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 4: word for word what she has said and see if 657 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 4: they could understand it. 658 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 2: And you tell me, what the hell she's trying to say? 659 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 18: Is that Kamala Harris. 660 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 2: Yes, on top of everything else that we know and 661 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 2: don't know, get based on what we've just been able 662 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 2: to see. And because we've seen it or not doesn't 663 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 2: mean it just happens for us at every moment in time, 664 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 2: and certainly this one. To see the moment in time 665 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 2: in which we exist in are present and to be 666 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 2: able to contextualize it, to understand it. Will we exist 667 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 2: in the history and the moment as it relates not 668 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 2: with the past but the future. Do you want me 669 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 2: to repeat. 670 00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 4: That you did try your best? But the good folk 671 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 4: of Malcolm X Boulevard in Harlem couldn't decipher what Kamala 672 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 4: was trying to say. 673 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 2: Can you understand what she's trying to say? 674 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 7: No? 675 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, for experiences? 676 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 4: He tell me what you're trying to say? 677 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 2: It might have been. 678 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 6: I don't even know what that even means. You're Jewish? 679 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 2: Oh wow, you're married? 680 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 19: You know? 681 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 14: Are you dating. 682 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:32,439 Speaker 2: Army? 683 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 4: You're not supposed to use these vox pops to to 684 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 4: drop up personal business for your dating life. 685 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 3: That's not the point. But tell me about the experience there. 686 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 3: What's the mood there? 687 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 4: Are they going to back her regardless of the fact 688 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 4: that she's a poor candidate because they hate Trump? Are 689 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 4: they energized about voting or what was the vibe in Harlem? 690 00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 2: No? No, and no, yeah, no, they're not energized. These 691 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 2: people aren't stupid. They're not saying, Hey, you're a black woman, 692 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 2: therefore I should vote for you. Okay, that's not the 693 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 2: way this thing works. She's dropping the ball when it 694 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,879 Speaker 2: comes to black community, and they know it's why they're 695 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 2: in panic mode. Look, and I know that with the 696 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 2: polling is saying on the black vote they're gonna get 697 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 2: the biggest vote in the last sixty years, I think 698 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 2: it might be bigger than that. I mean anecdotally, when 699 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,240 Speaker 2: I go out to the black community talking about Trump 700 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 2: and Harris, not only is there not excitement about her, 701 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 2: I just hear a lot of people say weren't over Trump. 702 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 2: And right now the polling is saying fifty percent of 703 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 2: black men, right twenty five percent of the entire black 704 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 2: population is gonna is going to vote for Trump. That's 705 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 2: it's a massive number. But I think, look this idea, 706 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 2: and you know it's whole. Every time you say, oh, 707 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 2: we're salad, this is not just white Republican men who 708 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 2: say this thing. Right when I went out there and 709 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 2: I started this the premise of this video by saying 710 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 2: I'm gonna read you a quote and then you tell 711 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 2: me who said it, they all jumped in and before 712 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 2: I had a chance to even read the quote and 713 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 2: go Kamala Harris, like they knew where this was going. 714 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 2: They understand that she is so vapid that she just 715 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 2: throws in a bunch of incongru's words and hopefully people 716 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,800 Speaker 2: will think she's smart. She's covering up. Does you just 717 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 2: know what she's talking about? I and you and conservatives 718 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 2: aren't the only person who noticed this. Everyone does, including 719 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,399 Speaker 2: black people. Look, when I do something, I do a video. Yes, 720 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,320 Speaker 2: it's funny, the comedy, the entertainment is just a delivery 721 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 2: device for something more important. And what it's saying is 722 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 2: they recognize what we have been saying in the conservative 723 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 2: eco universe, even though they don't listen to us. Right, 724 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 2: they're not really part of our eco universe. For the 725 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 2: most part, they know what's going on because they're not dumb. Look, 726 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 2: it is so gross how the Democratic Party takes for 727 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 2: granted the black vote. I think black people finally saying 728 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,760 Speaker 2: we're done being taken for granted. 729 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 4: Well, I do worry about some of the advice she's 730 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 4: getting because there are those who are telling her. Look 731 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 4: at the enormous audience Trump got with Joe Rogan, you 732 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 4: should do Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan goes for three hours. 733 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 4: They cover wide range of topics, over that time. 734 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:17,879 Speaker 3: If you were giving her. 735 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 4: Advice, Jean, I think it would be a disaster. 736 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 2: Don't know now. Look I would love her to go 737 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 2: on and implode, but you know what, I'm begging her, 738 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 2: don't do it. Look, I yes, I do not want 739 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 2: you to win, and if you go on there, you'll 740 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 2: destroy yourself. But please don't do it. It's going to 741 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 2: be too painful for the entire country. I'm begging you. 742 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 2: I'm giving you solid advice here. Do not do it. 743 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 2: Do yourself a favor. You can't handle it. 744 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 4: That is solid advice. Indeed, Army Horowitz, thank you for 745 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 4: your time. This evening is your pleasure still to come. 746 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 4: The unhinged hysteria around Trump's Madison Square Garden rally continues. 747 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 3: I'll speak to a young Australian man there. You're watching 748 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 3: the Raid of panehy show. 749 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 4: Joining me now is Federal Affairs Associate and Americans for 750 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 4: Tax Reform Barklay mcgaina. 751 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 9: You were at. 752 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 3: Trump's Madison Square Garden rally. 753 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,240 Speaker 4: The left wing media and the Democrats have completely lost 754 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 4: their minds over this rally. That have compared it to 755 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 4: a pro Nazi rally. They're calling everyone one who attended 756 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 4: fascists and basically they've lost their grip on reality. 757 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 5: Donald Trump's got this big rally going at Madison Square Garden. 758 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 5: There's a direct parallel to a big rally that happened 759 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 5: in the mid nineteen thirties at Madison Square Garden. And 760 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 5: don't think that he doesn't know for one second exactly 761 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 5: what they're doing there. 762 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 16: People said that this was like reminiscent of the supremacist 763 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 16: rally in nineteen thirty every cherry Nazis. 764 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 2: I think that it lived up to that. 765 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 15: Trump actually re enacting the Madison Square Garden rally in 766 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 15: nineteen thirty. 767 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 18: Nine, Nazi ralli's in the thirties at Madison Square gardens. 768 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 2: Do you compare that? 769 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 6: Do you find that a similar comparison. 770 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 22: Listen, this election is in seven days, and I think 771 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 22: the American people have a very clear choice. And on 772 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 22: the one hand, you have Donald Trump who is constantly 773 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 22: fanning the flames of division and hate. 774 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 4: The Democrats are claiming that the rally was so hate 775 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,359 Speaker 4: field and divisive that it has actually become a determining 776 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 4: factor in how Americans are going to vote. Here's Harris 777 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,280 Speaker 4: campaign's senior advisor, David Pooth. 778 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 23: These people are saying, I wasn't sure how I was 779 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 23: going to vote. Now I'm voting for Kamala Harris. So 780 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 23: it was a huge mistake. But here's what I've learned 781 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 23: in politics, things that really hurt you are things that 782 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 23: are consistent with what people may already think about you. 783 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 23: So that chaos and that heat and that division, for 784 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 23: a lot of voters, they say, that's what I'm worried. 785 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 3: About, Barclay. 786 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 4: You were there for the entire six seven hours. Was 787 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 4: it full of hate and fascist talking points and reminiscent 788 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,240 Speaker 4: of some sort of Nazi get together? 789 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 19: Yeah, high reader and hello viewers. If it was a reenactment, 790 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 19: it was an awful re enactment. I'm someone who grew 791 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 19: up in Australia my entire life, and going to New 792 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,959 Speaker 19: York City for this rally was a major culture shock. 793 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 19: And not only that, I've never seen more Israeli flags 794 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 19: in my life. Indeed, New York is known as the 795 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 19: melting Pot. Indeed, a lot of Puerto Ricans probably attended 796 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 19: this rally, people from all diverse points of background, and 797 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 19: they came from all around the country really to see 798 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 19: what I believe will be the next president of the 799 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,720 Speaker 19: United States. So the kind of slander that we're seeing 800 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,439 Speaker 19: from Kamala Harris, Tim Walls and the Democrat So I think, 801 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 19: really sure is that desperate they are and that's what 802 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 19: it amounts to. 803 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the 804 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 3: head there. It's desperation. 805 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 4: It's we're days away and this is what they've got 806 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 4: to cling on to. And while they're having their meltdown, 807 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,839 Speaker 4: the right side of politics is just mocking them. Watch 808 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:24,400 Speaker 4: this clip of Hitler watching this so called Nazi rally 809 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 4: at Madison Square Garden. 810 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,320 Speaker 2: The Democrats that Trump is a Nazi. 811 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 16: Trump did nothing wrong, he supports the Jewish community. 812 00:44:48,160 --> 00:45:04,320 Speaker 15: Fell down, worst Nazi rally ever, barklay so many Jewish 813 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 15: people there, black people, brown people, all those star of 814 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 15: David's on the Israeli flager. 815 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 3: And yet they're. 816 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 4: Continuing with this narrative about this being some hate field, 817 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,240 Speaker 4: anti Semitic event. 818 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,319 Speaker 19: Yeah, I think more or less, it just seems to 819 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,800 Speaker 19: be quite a distraction. What they're attempting to do is 820 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 19: they're attempting to distract from the bad record of Kamala 821 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 19: Harris in office. And when Donald Trump took to the stage, 822 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 19: the first thing he said, it was crystal clear, are 823 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 19: you better off right now than you were four years 824 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 19: ago when I left office? And absolutely no American can 825 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 19: say that they are in a better position now. With 826 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 19: rising interest rates, rising inflation, medium household income is going 827 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,280 Speaker 19: down as well, the stock market is not performing that well, 828 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 19: no one can say that they are in a better position. 829 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 19: And you know, Kamala Harris has brought on Tim Wallas. Recently, 830 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 19: the Cato Institute released the report of all of the 831 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 19: governors and how they went about raising taxes or reducing 832 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 19: taxes in their state. To Wores, being the governor of Minnesota, 833 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 19: he got a straight f And you can bet that 834 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,720 Speaker 19: when he assumes they're all of vice president, if Carma 835 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,280 Speaker 19: Harris is to be elected, he will very much continue 836 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 19: that big government growth record. So this election is going 837 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 19: to be very critical, and as you can see, they're 838 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 19: bringing out all the stops, all the labels, all the 839 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,320 Speaker 19: smears to try and deter Trump from returning to the 840 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 19: White House. 841 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 3: That season. 842 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 4: I think we're going to see more of these manufactured 843 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 4: outrages in the next six seven days, because that's all 844 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 4: they have. Barclay McGain, thank you so much for your time, 845 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 4: and that's all the time I've got tonight, folks. I'll 846 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 4: see you at eleven tomorrow with Douglas Murray. 847 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:44,799 Speaker 3: Up next is Newsnight.