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Speaker 1: Better than the Lego coup. Like the Queensland saw.

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Speaker 2: It, love It, Love it Underdogs.

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Speaker 1: We just do something dogs, I think for the benefit

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Speaker 1: of this podcast, can we just put our state bias.

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Speaker 2: I know we're drawing the line straight down the middle here.

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Speaker 1: As one of the greatest New South Wales players.

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Speaker 3: You were one of the greatest Queensland players. Games for

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Speaker 3: you delivered as a few.

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Speaker 1: That's why, hence why I only played full games. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I do a lot of talking points around both teams, right,

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Speaker 3: Like I think the Queensland team is pretty much picks

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Speaker 3: itself at different stages. Billy's got this culture that he's

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Speaker 3: driven for a long period of time. The Munster injury,

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Speaker 3: it was almost was there that Dinner was going to

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Speaker 3: They're probably a little bit thin with no Tino and

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Speaker 3: So yeah, but Harry Groan on the bench, dynamic and

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Speaker 3: selling Cobo.

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Speaker 1: Thing that's interesting it is it is was sell and

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Speaker 1: sell On is just one of those guys and he

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Speaker 3: Well I think Selwyn been on the bench. Like I think,

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Speaker 3: But if you remember when Ponger was playing well and

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Speaker 3: everyone's talking about it's going to be a resal Ponger,

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Speaker 3: I think Billy was trying to think of a way

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Speaker 3: and maybe he devised a plan where he goes, you

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Speaker 3: know what, actually Sell and Cobbo could do this, probably

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Speaker 3: a bigger body, so I'd be really interested to see

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Speaker 3: He just might have a plan for Cobo to come

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Speaker 1: It's interesting. So I didn't think about that because we've

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Speaker 1: I said, yes, did you really?

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Speaker 2: I did? I want to be on the record, I.

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Speaker 1: Want to have a look at this.

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Speaker 3: But I think he might have hatched a plan and

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Speaker 2: Who else can do it?

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Speaker 1: Coops the big one. No day for Feeder.

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Speaker 4: It's surprised just about everyone. Why got no idea? But

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Speaker 4: you know, personal opinion. I like Peter Kurra. I really

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Speaker 4: like he's in the extended bench. I think he has

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Speaker 4: got origin written all over him. If you're the argument

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Speaker 4: is can David play any minutes? Does his fitness levels?

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Speaker 4: Does it play a part? There's a couple of ways

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Speaker 4: other one you could have used is this is probably

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Speaker 4: the way I look at it is you start Ruben

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Speaker 4: David Feeder on. He plays forty fifty sixty minutes there.

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Speaker 4: But Billy I know he sits in his little chamber

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Speaker 2: So there's a reason why.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a respect for Madge too, why he

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Speaker 1: and I think that Billy. I think it's a wrap

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Speaker 1: for Madge him having a look at it. I remember

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Speaker 3: And the other thing too, is you think about not

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Speaker 3: New South Wales had definitely gone down a character discipline, toughness,

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Speaker 1: Here. One more thing just there talking about Bill. It's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I reckon the only one that hasn't that

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Speaker 1: I've seen Billy. The press conference yesterday morning on Monday

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Speaker 1: Billy just it was just a bit of an edge

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So Origin coaches sit there twenty four to seven

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Speaker 2: The other thing, too, is Origin.

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Speaker 3: The thing about Bill is the one that I noticed

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Speaker 3: is I think Kevin Walters said something about Reese Walsh

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Speaker 3: said no, I want Reese to be Reese. There is

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Speaker 2: Well I said chill.

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Speaker 3: Now I think that Rehys Walsh could be the guy,

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Speaker 3: Like he can just do things that not too many

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to bloke out there. He's going to

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Speaker 3: Well, and you look at New South Wales many and

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Speaker 1: Maverick. You could just do something out of nothing. It's

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Speaker 1: a good look in Queensland. Excuse me. New South Wales side.

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Speaker 3: I definitely think he's made a few statements with my

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Speaker 3: Like he puts his head in places we don't put

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Speaker 3: the OROQ New South Wales team and they go, well,

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Speaker 3: we want some tough, tenacious, character driven guys are never

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Speaker 1: This last week, and you having Isaac starting the game

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Speaker 1: he's done that. He's put Isaiah at fourteen. Start with McGinnis.

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Speaker 4: For Robson, the McGinnis peek at starting is purely get

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Speaker 3: That's mcinness's role. He will tackle himself to a sense

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Speaker 3: paynhuss I think he's a genuine star of our competition.

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Speaker 3: What he has been through, what he is, what he's playing.

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Speaker 2: To success in their football team. I think it's Payinhause

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Speaker 1: Is that young bloke has not been given enough credit

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Speaker 3: He hasn't Like you're going to critique pain like he's

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Speaker 1: Robson ahead of Happy. It's interesting. It just shows you

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Speaker 1: what currency May is going to put in defense. That's

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Speaker 1: any insinuation that Teddy's starting to go back. You haven't

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Speaker 1: They've basically been able to scale their game back and

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Speaker 1: Do less good, Yes, do less.

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Speaker 2: Some people think, well, if he's not.

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Speaker 3: Committed, then you know what, Like go watch him play,

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Speaker 2: I particularly care what you say about me.

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Speaker 4: I believe I can do this strong in the gym,

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Speaker 4: oh mate, He's a beast like I think every young

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Speaker 2: These young bikes are strong, bigger bouf.

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Speaker 1: When I get under the bench, person, I don't need

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Speaker 2: What do you got on there?

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Speaker 1: let's talk with the NRL coops. Most disappointing performance of

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Speaker 3: Reason being is we've spoken about this DNA, the grit,

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Speaker 4: The week of praise you spoke about it.

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Speaker 1: It's Coops. It's a challenge and people go, oh, that's it.

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Speaker 3: So if the Sharks are your most disappointing performance, the

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Speaker 3: And it was a powerful like Lui was great, Edward's terrific.

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Speaker 1: No wonder they're looking at four winds in a row.

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Speaker 2: I had go to the bin for a ten minute period.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think the Warriors as well. Yeah, one reason they've.

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Speaker 1: Jersey's I'm curious to see Penrith without Nathan and without

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Speaker 3: They are a good, good team, and I feel like

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Speaker 3: the defense is letting themselves down at different stages, particularly

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Speaker 3: the Titans, and they had this mindset of like, oh,

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Speaker 3: we'll be right, We've got Selwyn, we've got paying Carrigan

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Speaker 3: rees out the back, they'll do something to win it.

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Speaker 2: But during this period, you're not going to have them well.

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Speaker 1: This is it keeps if they're in a position at

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Speaker 1: the moment, whereas if the origin period, you know they

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Speaker 1: don't continue well, if they don't go on a bit

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Speaker 1: of a winning run through this period, they're going to

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Speaker 1: come out of the origin period under pressure. Where in

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Speaker 1: the situation, there's nothing worse for in your year and

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Speaker 1: a team, and you'll find yourself in a position right up,

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Speaker 1: we're going to win four of the last five. That

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Speaker 1: can take a bit out of your teak.

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Speaker 3: And when you lose Adam Reynolds, the last thing you

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Speaker 3: need to be doing is creating bad habits in your

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Speaker 3: defense and your long game mentality for when he comes back.

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Speaker 3: It's a bit like Penrith like they're keeping their habits well.

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Speaker 3: Nathan's away, so they're defending well and but Broncos need

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Speaker 3: to address their defense at the moment.

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Speaker 1: As far as players of the round, I thought White

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Speaker 1: and looked good in the six. Yeah, straighten them up

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Who's your player of the round?

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Speaker 2: I really liked.

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Speaker 3: What Teddy did, to be honest, A camera like he

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Speaker 3: had a lot of noise around his performance, but he

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Speaker 3: was sensational he delivered with a lot of players and

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Speaker 3: things like that. In terms of the other performances I

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Speaker 3: got tomorrow Martin did in New Zealand, there was a

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Speaker 3: moment there that in the second half that without his

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Speaker 3: he created two repeat sets in a row and then

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Speaker 3: come up with a match.

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Speaker 2: Meaning Tryce Tryst says, so good John.

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Speaker 1: The young fullbacks coming in the game the Titans, he was,

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Speaker 1: he was class all that. I was going to use

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Speaker 1: the word filling. That's not the right word. But these

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Speaker 1: young fullbacks like Kenni Toolpiky for longer, Lehi Hoppawati was fantastic, blaze,

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Speaker 1: all these young fullbacks that have come in.

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Speaker 3: And a little bit like you know, like the mold

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Speaker 3: of Ris Walsh. There's small, agile, fast, with footwork and skill.

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Speaker 3: There's a little bit of a shift there. Everyone thought

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Speaker 3: it had to be the two hundred meter game breaking

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Speaker 3: meter carrying fullback for kick returns like a Turbo or

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Speaker 3: a Teddy. Dylan Edwards is probably in that mold, but

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Speaker 3: there seems to be a little bit more of a

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Speaker 3: shift to that dynamic fullback.

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Speaker 1: He can be