Speaker 1: Lucky.
Speaker 2: It's lucky dip time. It's Mail and Monty thanks for
Speaker 2: joining us.
Speaker 1: Not doing so great on the not singing.
Speaker 2: Oh you know what I was thinking? What was that
Speaker 2: dog food ad? Was it lucky dog Lucky? I should
Speaker 2: have sung that. Anyway, it is Mela Monte. Everyone, thank
Speaker 2: you for joining us, new listeners, thanks for tuning in.
Speaker 2: This is your bite sized nugget. This is one where
Speaker 2: maybe you're in the supermarket and you just need to
Speaker 2: get through the fluorescent lights and the annoying people just
Speaker 2: staring in front of you. Is there anything worse when
Speaker 2: somebody's in front of you and you're like, oh, excuse me,
Speaker 2: and you just get past them to grab the crumpets? Also,
Speaker 2: how long since you've had a crumpet?
Speaker 1: Oh? Probably a few weeks ago. Mark brought crumpets. Brought, Yes, crumpets.
Speaker 2: I always get confused if it's bought or brought. But
Speaker 2: he brought or brought crumpets.
Speaker 1: Well, he brought them home from the shop, but he
Speaker 1: bought them with the money. Right.
Speaker 2: What did you have on it?
Speaker 1: Jam? Oh?
Speaker 2: Lots of butter?
Speaker 1: First, No, I'm not I'm not like on toast. I
Speaker 1: have butter, but it's like the conversation around the peanut
Speaker 1: butter and butter. I would never put butter before peanut butter.
Speaker 2: That is raw dogging a crumpet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like they're so dry, so dry peanut butter.
Speaker 1: And also crumpets are exclusively sweet to me, like Mark
Speaker 1: has them with butter and vegmite. Yeah, I would have
Speaker 1: that doesn't go to me.
Speaker 2: No, anything goes on a crumpet, veggiemite and cheese, jam, honey,
Speaker 2: peanut butter. Oh I love a crumpet.
Speaker 1: Oh well, I'll tell you what I love. I mean
Speaker 1: that's wrong or is it?
Speaker 2: Anyway?
Speaker 1: I have such a fascinating lucky dip for you today. Now,
Speaker 1: what I would say about our lucky dips is sometimes
Speaker 1: they're also like convo starters. Maybe not with a new
Speaker 1: group of people, but this is going to be one
Speaker 1: of those things if you don't know. So, if I
Speaker 1: asked you what you think the top five electronic gadgets
Speaker 1: that first came out were, yeah, give me one in
Speaker 1: the top five. You think a toaster, Yes, so the
Speaker 1: top five were toaster, fan, sewing machine, kettle, that's four right.
Speaker 1: The fifth, yeah, was the vibrator. Shut up, No, I'm
Speaker 1: going to tell you the history of the vibrator and
Speaker 1: you will be fucking flawed. This is unbelievable. I hate okay, okay.
Speaker 1: So back in the late eighteen hundreds to the early
Speaker 1: like nineteen.
Speaker 2: Hundred, God, in my head, people back then didn't have sex.
Speaker 1: No, no, hang on, this is it's just extraordinary. Right.
Speaker 1: Doctors were diagnosing women with what they called hysteria. So
Speaker 1: if a woman was unhappy with her life because her
Speaker 1: husband was an asshole, or she was stressed out, she
Speaker 1: was deemed hysterical. Because women didn't complain or write. I'll
Speaker 1: give you a list of some of the things that
Speaker 1: deemed a woman hysterical. You fucking definitely would have been,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, headache, locked up, headaches, hysterical okay, forgetfulness, irritability, insomnia, writing, cramps,
Speaker 1: hot flashes, excessive vaginal bleeding, heaviness in the limbs, usage
Speaker 1: of cause, language, severe cramping, difficulty breathing, desire for literal stimulation,
Speaker 1: hyper promiscuity, mood, swings, nausea, anxiety, drowsiness, loss of appetite, aging, wow,
Speaker 1: back pain, swollen feet, cancer, organ failure, endometriosis, heart disease,
Speaker 1: epileptic fits, and you know, things things that people would
Speaker 1: now call symptoms of depressions, chizophrenia, and other psychological disorders.
Speaker 2: Majority of those symptoms sounded perimanopause, metopause automatic they did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know they would be that husband might say,
Speaker 1: my wife is just not wanting to cook dinner anymore,
Speaker 1: something's wrong with her. God, no, this is the unbelievable thing.
Speaker 1: So this group of physicians decided that the way that
Speaker 1: they would treat hysteria in women was to get them
Speaker 1: to lay down on the examination table and I'm just
Speaker 1: going to come out and say it so like it's
Speaker 1: going to be graphic, like, yeah, the doctor would rub
Speaker 1: the woman's clip until she had this strange release of
Speaker 1: that well, this is what they called it. They called
Speaker 1: it hysterical paroxism at the time.
Speaker 2: Listen to this.
Speaker 1: This is the mind blowing part. So they thought that
Speaker 1: was it because she felt great afterwards.
Speaker 2: My god.
Speaker 1: Back then they believed that a woman only got sexual
Speaker 1: pleasure from inside her vagina, which is why they really
Speaker 1: looked down on the use of speculums and whatever, like
Speaker 1: when you get perhaps with me, they put that thing
Speaker 1: in and open, and they had no idea that the
Speaker 1: clitorist was even anything. So when they were doing this,
Speaker 1: they didn't even see it as a sexual thing.
Speaker 2: They thought it was like, oh my god, we have it.
Speaker 1: It was like rubbing your elbow what So anyway, it
Speaker 1: became very hard on the doctors because you know, it
Speaker 1: was really they were getting sore arms and risked hard
Speaker 1: because imagine the lineup of stair coin women wanted to.
Speaker 2: Start just inventing the hysteria just because they Betty told them,
Speaker 2: oh my god, you'd.
Speaker 1: Be rocking up like fifteen minutes early for your appointment.
Speaker 1: I have to go to the doctor. I have to
Speaker 1: go every week anyway. But it became too hard work
Speaker 1: for the doctors because you know they'll get an RSI.
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm having to rub one out for these
Speaker 1: women all the time, which is why the first iteration
Speaker 1: of a vibrator was like a mechanical device, like on
Speaker 1: a table. So they wanted they wanted something that the
Speaker 1: woman could take home and use on her own clip
Speaker 1: to get that release, which is what we now call
Speaker 1: an orgasm.
Speaker 2: So I wonder if like it was known like to
Speaker 2: the kids and everything, mummies hysterical. I need to go
Speaker 2: and put this machine on my clitoris.
Speaker 1: Imagine that. Well, there probably wasn't even a name for
Speaker 1: it back then.
Speaker 2: For the glus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it probably wasn't even And also it's because I
Speaker 1: think the clitoris is like the only part of when
Speaker 1: I say the body, I mean male and female human
Speaker 1: body that is there for no other reason than pleasure.
Speaker 1: Like there is no purpose, CRUs, it serves no purpose.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well that's probably. But well when I
Speaker 1: say it serves no purpose, biologically, it makes sex more
Speaker 1: pleasurable for most women, so it makes them want it,
Speaker 1: which then you know, I guess in crazy the chances
Speaker 1: of having babies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the human body is fascinating.
Speaker 1: Like can you believe listen to this, this last thing.
Speaker 1: I have to tell you, it's unbelievable to me. In
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty two, the term hysteria was officially removed from
Speaker 1: the DSM, which is the big book of you know,
Speaker 1: psychological disorders.
Speaker 2: DSM is all medical issues, DSM five is what doctors use.
Speaker 1: I always thought it was just I thought it was
Speaker 1: a psychological I don't know, you diagnostics and statistical Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you could be right.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Look, I don't know, but As of two thy and nineteen,
Speaker 1: which is very recent, very recent, medical professionals were no
Speaker 1: longer allowed to use the word hysterical paroxism to describe
Speaker 1: the relief of tension through external genital manipulation. They had
Speaker 1: to start referring to it as orgasm. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: who in fucking twenty nineteen we're still calling it that?
Speaker 1: Who had their head buried in the sand and still thought, Oh, that's.
Speaker 2: What we'll call it. That's it. Yeah, Yeah, Susan, I
Speaker 2: know that you can barely function. You just need a
Speaker 2: good wink.
Speaker 1: You know what. She probably does need a she frankly does.
Speaker 2: On top of medication and meditation and all of that stuff.
Speaker 2: It's just I know, for you it probably fixes everything.
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't. fIF Nothing fixes everything, But I do
Speaker 1: think it's like anything else in life that gives you
Speaker 1: some sort of pleasure. Then, like, do you know most
Speaker 1: of most of life's pretty unpleasurable.
Speaker 2: Got and investigate that area, I know, back in the
Speaker 2: eighteen hundreds. Just visualize a doctor pounding it. Yeah, unbelievable,
Speaker 2: It's really unbelievable. I just love when you were thinking,
Speaker 2: I've got to come up with a topic for the
Speaker 2: Lucky episode, I am going to google the history of
Speaker 2: the vibrator. Your Google history. Oh, I'd be arrested, so
Speaker 2: I'd be arrested. Whack, I'd be arrested.
Speaker 1: It would be But you know, what is funny to
Speaker 1: me that, like men, there's this thing about you know,
Speaker 1: old women are the weaker sex, women are stupid women
Speaker 1: or whatever, which you'd hope most men don't think now,
Speaker 1: but that thought of these doctors didn't even equate what
Speaker 1: they were doing as sexual sexual and the women were
Speaker 1: probably just laying there going on, I've done this before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what this is when friends at work,
Speaker 2: I know what this is.
Speaker 1: I know. Wasn't that amazing?
Speaker 2: That's great?
Speaker 1: I thought that was truly fascinating. It was.
Speaker 2: It was really fascinating. You were so right. Thank you
Speaker 2: for delivering that. Now you're welcome. You're always full of
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