WEBVTT - Do as I say not as I do!

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<v Speaker 1>Apodjeke Production. Welcome back to another episode of Am I

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<v Speaker 1>A Bad Mum?

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<v Speaker 2>Podcast?

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<v Speaker 1>So I was thinking about the other day. We've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this as well. We should do like T shirts

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<v Speaker 1>with slogans for moms, like, for example, why so when

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<v Speaker 1>you can use a state pler like just like you

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<v Speaker 1>know how people have like inspirational T shirts really good

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<v Speaker 1>quotes on we could do some like really shit ones

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<v Speaker 1>like some of our really.

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<v Speaker 2>Shick Where do people wear these shirts?

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<v Speaker 1>Yours would be like no one remembers second place.

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<v Speaker 3>Stuff like that, Like I genuinely I think that will

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<v Speaker 3>probably be on my grave.

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<v Speaker 2>No one remembers second place? What are you teaching your kids?

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<v Speaker 2>But that's okay. I'm all right with it. I'm all

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<v Speaker 2>about like, yep, this year, I'm turning forty.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm absolutely owning who I am, why I am. There's

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<v Speaker 3>no holes bar this one. I'm going straight in. So, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I am a competitive parent. Yeah, I'm not competitive with

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<v Speaker 3>my kids. Well, I'm just competitive on the sideline of

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<v Speaker 3>watching my kids, Like if I know that they can

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<v Speaker 3>do better, maybe I'll just push a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but didn't you tell a story once though about

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<v Speaker 1>how you were on I think it was like some

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<v Speaker 1>outdoor exercise activity, like you know, the outdoor exercise.

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<v Speaker 2>Things in parks and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wasn't it some kind of obstacle course that you did,

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<v Speaker 1>but then you wanted to win?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, of course, Yeah, yeah that was me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, probably with Elsie when you start to like look

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<v Speaker 3>at your kids and you go, wow, that traits definitely

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<v Speaker 3>from me. Elsie definitely has probably taken a non majority

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<v Speaker 3>of my competitive traits. And then if we're doing it together,

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<v Speaker 3>it's all on her and I Gracie will like hahha

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<v Speaker 3>competitive competitive, I'll try, but if you start to beat her,

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<v Speaker 3>she's like just falls apart. You're the bad person. You tried,

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<v Speaker 3>too hot, yo, like all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So I go, nah, I'm not interested.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna let them win kind of a no.

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<v Speaker 3>Not when it comes to physical activity, when it becomes

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<v Speaker 3>like a card game which I can't stand.

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<v Speaker 2>I always lose. Yeah, Okay, they're quite good at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you're fine with that, Fine with that, Just

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<v Speaker 1>on that real quickly. This is not to do with parenting.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I first met Jay, don't know why, we

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<v Speaker 1>were playing monopoly, but we were playing Monopoly and I

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<v Speaker 1>was winning, and when I went to the toilet, he

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<v Speaker 1>packed the game up.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's where love starts from.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I a bad mum for saying do as I say,

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<v Speaker 1>not as I do? This is a really bad parenting moment,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I definitely behaved in a way.

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<v Speaker 2>That I wasn't proud of.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about the cyclone in Brisbane and the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that I was supposed to go to Fiji and canceled,

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<v Speaker 1>and I actually had to cancel as soon as I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of realized that the girl's plans were canceled. So

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<v Speaker 1>they had a school thing on. They were supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be going on this like school trip and that was canceled,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh shit. And we booked Fiji

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<v Speaker 1>because we knew the girls were going to be away

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<v Speaker 1>and taken care of, And so as soon as that happened,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, Okay, that's canceled. So the reason for

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<v Speaker 1>us going in the first place was now not.

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<v Speaker 2>As it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I then didn't really want the stress of leaving them

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<v Speaker 1>home by themselves whilst we were on holiday, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>also during at oh so during a cyclone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was the biggest thing, was a big part.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I forgot about the care of the kids,

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<v Speaker 1>and it genuinely was leaving them in a cyclone potentially

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<v Speaker 1>without power. Was my main.

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<v Speaker 3>Concern when you think about it now, like just imagine right,

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<v Speaker 3>because we did talk about this on a podcast, was

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that imagine if you did go. I think

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<v Speaker 3>the flights were still going, weren't they anyway, But imagine

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<v Speaker 3>if you did go, you got out, you got Fiji

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<v Speaker 3>and it all unraveled as it did. Girls are at

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<v Speaker 3>home and that ceiling just starts belting out water. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>like you would have been losing it. You've been losing

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<v Speaker 3>your mind. You would have been like, I got to

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<v Speaker 3>get home, I've got to like to do it all.

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<v Speaker 3>So luckily you went with it and you were like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>we're not going.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I made the call and so here's what we did.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a little complicated, but we were able to

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<v Speaker 1>book the trip with points right. So the flights were

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<v Speaker 1>going to be flying from Brisbane to Fiji Quantus and

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<v Speaker 1>then fly from Fiji back to Brisbane virgin Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>we used up.

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<v Speaker 2>Points that we have sites both sides. Now, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Able to cancel my Quantus flight and that was fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I was also able to cancel my Virgin flight. However, Virgin,

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<v Speaker 1>we're charging a cancelation fee, which I think was something

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<v Speaker 1>like seventeen thousand points. I've got no idea what that

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<v Speaker 1>is in money, Like, I've got no idea what that

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<v Speaker 1>equates to. It was seventeen thousand points to cancel. Now

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<v Speaker 1>at the time on the phone, I was like, yeah, okay, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>like I have to cancel these flights.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't go.

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<v Speaker 1>Then literally the next day, Virgin canceled all of their

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<v Speaker 1>flights and nobody has to pay cancelation fees. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, well, that's not fair. I've just had

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<v Speaker 1>to pay a cancelation fee. And so I'm on the phone. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the phone rate to this offshore person at

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<v Speaker 1>Velocity for.

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<v Speaker 2>An hour and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, in this time I have started the conversation really

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<v Speaker 1>quite nicely. Okay, thanks so much for your help. Just

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<v Speaker 1>explain the situation. I was charged to cancelation fee. No

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<v Speaker 1>one else has been charged to cancelation fee. She's arguing

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<v Speaker 1>with me about the fact that I agreed to the

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<v Speaker 1>cancelation fee and that I canceled the flights before they

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<v Speaker 1>canceled the flights, which was correct.

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<v Speaker 2>However, I still.

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<v Speaker 1>Felt like it wasn't fair because you canceled those flights.

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<v Speaker 1>And actually what happened is the Quantus flight going from

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<v Speaker 1>Brisbane to Fiji was canceled. And so my argument was

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<v Speaker 1>I was never going to get back because I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>get to Fiji. So I was never going to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to get on your flight home. My flight out

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<v Speaker 1>there was canceled, So what did you want me to do?

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<v Speaker 1>The more and more I was trying to reason with

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<v Speaker 1>her and get her under stand, the more she was

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<v Speaker 1>telling me no, the more angry I was getting, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was getting worked up, and it was getting late,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I had kids there, going where's dinner? And

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<v Speaker 1>then I had like all this and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I've just spent all of the time on the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not getting off this phone call. I ended

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<v Speaker 1>up saying to her rage, I was like, put your

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<v Speaker 1>manager on. I spoke to this manager. My flight to

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<v Speaker 1>Fiji was canceled. There was no way of me getting

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<v Speaker 1>on that flight from Fiji back to Brisbane because I

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<v Speaker 1>never got to Fiji unless I swam out there, I

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<v Speaker 1>was never going to be able to get on that

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<v Speaker 1>fly back. I got so mad and my kids are

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<v Speaker 1>there and they're hearing me get mad, and I'm shouting

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<v Speaker 1>at this room.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm shouting at her. You're not listening to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Jay's turned around and went, Katie, stop shouting at her.

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<v Speaker 1>They record the calls. I don't care if they record

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<v Speaker 1>the calls. She went, okay, Ma'm like, I'm wearing I'm

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<v Speaker 1>being not a nice person.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not not me I wanted to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I was not being.

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<v Speaker 2>Myself, and you were displaying this to your children. I

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<v Speaker 2>was displaying this to my children.

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<v Speaker 1>I was showing them exactly what not to be and

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<v Speaker 1>what not to do, exactly what I tell them not

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Be kind to people. You don't know what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on for them in their lives. You know, she's

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<v Speaker 1>probably working for five dollars an.

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<v Speaker 2>Hour much she's seventeen thousand points. Didn't she did, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>deserve me and what I was saying. I was so mad.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she eventually came back, good news on this occasion,

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<v Speaker 1>we've agreed to refund your cancelation fee. I instantly switch rage.

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<v Speaker 1>I instantly went, thank you so much for your help.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really sorry for shouting at you. I was just

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<v Speaker 1>so frustrated.

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<v Speaker 2>She was like, that's okay, okay, I understand.

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<v Speaker 1>I really wanted to help you, it was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>out of my hands. I was like, I understand.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you have a lovely recip you day like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>If I was that lady on the other end of

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<v Speaker 3>the line, I would have felt like going, oh, fuck you.

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<v Speaker 2>You did not care about how I felt.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's good that they gave it back to you,

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<v Speaker 3>because I actually didn't think that was where the story

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<v Speaker 3>was going to end.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I got off the phone and both girls

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<v Speaker 1>look at me and they go, what about all that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff you tell us about being kind and treating people

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<v Speaker 1>with respect.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh damn it, Oh, can we start

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<v Speaker 3>from tomorrow.