1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fear and Greed. Sum Are investing series are 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: brought to you by vant specialist in compliance lead browth. 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: I'm Sean Almer. This series is all about giving investors 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 1: some ideas, the starting point for your research, a few 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: things to consider when you're investing in twenty twenty five. 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: So continuing with that theme today, we're looking at three 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: companies you may not have heard of. As always, this 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: is general information only. You should always seek independent advice 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: before making investment decisions. Matthew Kidman is the principal at 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: Centennial Asset Management. Matthew, welcome back to Fear and Greed. 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: Hi Sean, thanks for having me. 12 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: You've been prepped on this one. Three stocks that we 13 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: haven't heard about. Stock number one is. 14 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 3: It's a company called drop Suite codds in the technology space. 15 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 3: So one of the big problems with technology is security, 16 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 3: as we know, and there's a lot of products that 17 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: you can buy to help secure what you've got at 18 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 3: work or at home. Drop Suite primarily concentrates on Office 19 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 3: three sixty five. As we know, we've gone to the 20 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 3: cloud with Microsoft and it allows you to back up 21 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: your Microsoft three six five. Now that doesn't sound exciting. 22 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: Doesn't Microsoft do that. Microsoft doesn't really do it in 23 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 3: any meaningful way, but drop Sweet does and it has 24 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 3: been growing, and especially with the SME type market, it's 25 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: been able to grow the size of its customers and 26 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: it's also been able to grow the amount of their customers. 27 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,639 Speaker 2: It's run at break even. It's kepped about four hundred 28 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 2: million or maybe a bit less three hundred and fifty 29 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: million dollars worth, got a decent balance sheet, and it 30 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: runs at about break even as it grows that twenty 31 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: to thirty percent pace. We kind of like that. We've 32 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: watched it for a long time. It's executed well. Not 33 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: cheap structural growth, but we do think it's got a 34 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: lot of growth to go for the next two or 35 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: three years. 36 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: Okay, Number one's drop Suite Number two. 37 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: Well, you've probably heard of this, but it's probably been 38 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 3: off the radar. Which fits into the category I think, 39 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 3: which is a dares nice old retailer has got an 40 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: online business called Mockup, but primarily the old storefront selling 41 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 3: your furniture and home goods. Adares has been a real problem. 42 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 3: Child had a boom. Like most retailers in COVID, it 43 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: exceeded all profitability, especially around the margin front. As we know, 44 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 3: we stayed at home and spent money on our house. 45 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 3: Then it all dropped off the edge of the cliff. 46 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: And guess what. 47 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 3: At the same time Instraits went up, A dars balance 48 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 3: sheet was two gears, so it got hit from a 49 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 3: couple of different angles. Stock price went down about seventy percent. 50 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 3: And the other issue they had was that they at 51 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 3: the same time was doing all that. They were building 52 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: a new distribution center, which when they moved in there 53 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 3: it just didn't work. They had to get rid of 54 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 3: the third party process, go in take it for themselves. 55 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 3: Now it's operating as we see the last couple of updates. 56 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 3: It's actually sales. They've started to grow, and if we 57 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 3: get a couple of instraight cuts, it'll pick up on 58 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 3: that cyclical element we'd like. As we get deeper into 59 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, balance sheet's getting a bit better. Debts down, 60 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 3: distribution center working okay, back on its feet, balance sheet repair. 61 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: We think there's a bit of upside in a DAEs job. 62 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: Suite one A dares to number three. 63 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 3: I'm going to go with one that's spent an absolute 64 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: banger over the last year or so, and it's in 65 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 3: a really high growth part of the market. So it's 66 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: risky in the sense that it's gone up a lot. 67 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 3: It was incredibly cheap, and it's one called SKS Technologies. 68 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 3: SKS basically is a commercial electrician, and what I mean 69 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 3: by that it wires big buildings my university's hospitals might 70 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 3: to a commercial building in the city, even though that's 71 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 3: a bit more competitive. And the more recent one that. 72 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 2: It does sector is data centers. 73 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: As we know, that's the moon product, and a lot 74 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 3: of the equipment that goes into a data center it's 75 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: shed with a lot of electric because we know and 76 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: there's a lot of power to run those service that 77 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 3: sit in there and allow you to access the cloud 78 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 3: or premise work. It's done really well. The stock has 79 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: gone up about five or six times in the last 80 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: twelve months. And you say, well, I've missed the boat. 81 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think it's getting into bigger 82 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 3: projects and I think that it can grow at an 83 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 3: above average rate over the next two years if it 84 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 3: continues to execute well. There's always risk around that, but 85 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 3: we think they're executing really nicely and that they're increasing 86 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 3: their margins at the moment because the demand for this product. 87 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 3: Electricians are in big demand and if you can get 88 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 3: access to them, you can charge higher rates. So margins improving, 89 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 3: revenue improving, and it's not about thirteen or fourteen times, 90 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: but we think that can probably grow at twenty five 91 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 3: thirty percent over the next couple of years. 92 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: So there's plenty of upside in. 93 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: That balance sheet. Matthew, you always talk balance sheets. You 94 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: haven't mentioned s cases. 95 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: Balance sheet improved a lot, improved a lot did have 96 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: a lone of credit. There was a lot of talk 97 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 2: around in the market I needed to raise money because 98 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 2: the amount of work they were taking on their last 99 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: update was a really good one where they said that actually, 100 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 2: when net cash now a line of credit, we don't 101 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: need new equity. A line of credit is still there, 102 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 2: we're not tapping into it because we've collected our money 103 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: at such a good speed when net cash at the moment. So, yes, 104 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 2: sean good question. I'm glad I had an answer. 105 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: Fantastic. So we have drop Suite A, Dares, SKS, all 106 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: very different parts of the market, all improved, good or 107 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: improving balance sheets. There's a theme there, Matthew. Thank you 108 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 1: for joining us today. 109 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 2: Thanks Sean. 110 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: Now was Matthew Kidman from Centennial Asset Management. Remember to 111 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: get your own independent advice before making decisions. This is 112 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: fair and greed. 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