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Speaker 1: Today is the premiere release of Top Gun two. It

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Speaker 1: is Maverick, You've got to go see this Whiper and

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Speaker 1: I we had to interview John Hamm at the obviously,

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Speaker 1: and but you'd never seen the original Top Gun. So

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Speaker 1: we were like, all right, we'll go along and watch

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Speaker 1: the show. We thought this is going to be a

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Speaker 1: little bit easy. It is unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Best movie I've said in a very long time.

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Speaker 1: So the point where we were like, do we have

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Speaker 1: to get someone on just to see some of the

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Speaker 1: stuff that they're doing in this movie is real? Well,

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Speaker 1: we have tracked down a real life fighter jet pilot

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Speaker 1: and he joins us right now, it's Christian Boo because

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Speaker 1: this welcome to the show, Bob, Thanks Fitzy, this team.

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Speaker 2: Tell me how you got into it and the stages

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Speaker 2: that you take as a pilot to then end up

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Speaker 2: in a fighter jet.

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Speaker 3: It's a big question to ask. Mate.

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Speaker 4: For me, I just want to be a fighter pilot.

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Speaker 4: As a kid, I think I was six years old

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Speaker 4: and I went to my first day show and all

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Speaker 4: the jet fuels washing over me, the noise of the

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Speaker 4: jets over the top, the rumble, you know, it was

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Speaker 4: like I felt that I wanted to be a fighter

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Speaker 4: pilot before I thought I So, yeah, everything I did

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Speaker 4: through school, I repeated year twelve. I wasn't particularly academic,

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Speaker 4: and yeah, I was selected straight out of school. So

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Speaker 4: I started flying hornets in Australia when I was twenty one,

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Speaker 4: started flight training when I was nineteen. So they get

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Speaker 4: you in there pretty young.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, can I ask, what's that?

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Speaker 1: How long does it take to go from flying hornets

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Speaker 1: first up to get into a fighter jet?

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Speaker 4: So it's about two and a half years when you

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Speaker 4: first sit in one of these jets. And that's like

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Speaker 4: the first time you fly one of these things solos,

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Speaker 4: any one seat, there's you a ten ton machine and

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Speaker 4: put the afterburner in. You can stick it on its

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Speaker 4: tail and go straight up like it's it's a pretty

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Speaker 4: bizarre feeling.

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Speaker 3: The first time you do that.

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Speaker 2: Intimidating.

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Speaker 4: It's always intimidating it and most fighter pilots that they

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Speaker 4: have a saying, there's no old bold. Fighter pilots are

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Speaker 4: always intimidated because the airplane is a beast and they

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Speaker 4: can bite your back if you're not careful, So right,

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Speaker 4: a healthy respect. But yeah, the first time you go

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Speaker 4: up to this thing and it's you know, you need

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Speaker 4: to climb a ladder to get into it, right, it's

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Speaker 4: it's it's intimidating, but at the same time very exciting.

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Speaker 5: How do you silence the fear.

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Speaker 3: Training? Training? Training training?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's about four hundred odd missions that we fly,

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Speaker 4: training missions, fifteen million dollar program.

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Speaker 3: Wow, perfect a pilot. And how many jets have we

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Speaker 3: got in Australia We have about seventy.

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Speaker 4: We've got a new one now, it's called there thirty

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Speaker 4: five Lightning, which is a it's an incredible it's a

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Speaker 4: flying computer. They can hit a button in the airplane

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Speaker 4: and it goes invisible. They can see through the floor. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: they just fly through the air. Apparently, it's pretty scary,

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Speaker 4: perturbing here.

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Speaker 3: Do you need a pilot?

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Speaker 4: Look, technically, yes, you still need a pilot. There's a

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Speaker 4: lot of decisions that need to be made that computers

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Speaker 4: just aren't quite there. And you've got weaponry on board, yeah,

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Speaker 4: a lot of weapons, always carrying weapons. I remember once

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Speaker 4: I was flying up in the Northern Territory's a lot

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Speaker 4: of thunderstorms in the wet right, and you've got all

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Speaker 4: and there's like electricity bouncing like.

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Speaker 3: Hope, someone put these together right.

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Speaker 2: And that was so we were flying f adans.

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Speaker 3: Is that right?

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Speaker 4: We were flying fadeans. They finished last year, so December

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Speaker 4: they were retired. Okay, So every fighter Jedi flu is

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Speaker 4: now in a museum. We have these new ones. Yet

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Speaker 4: we have super hornets which are out of the movies.

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Speaker 4: We still have those that were in Top Guns. Sure,

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Speaker 4: Australia has about twenty five of those.

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Speaker 2: Because you guys just train and train and train. So

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Speaker 2: the amount of fighter pilots which who would ever see

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Speaker 4: Well, look, because we had Iraq obviously in Syria quite

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Speaker 4: quite a lot. Most of our fighter pilots have done

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Okay yeah, but generally, and we have a saying we

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Speaker 4: whether it's training or it's real, we always treat it

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Speaker 1: When you talk about technology on these things these days,

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Speaker 1: is it i mean, is it all back at base

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Speaker 1: that they can control these things or is there how

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Speaker 1: much fuel is there from the from the from the

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Speaker 4: So there hasn't most aeroplanes have been designed with computers

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Speaker 4: in forty years ago. So the stick itself doesn't actually

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Speaker 4: connect to anything. It's just a stick that has electronics

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Speaker 4: at the bottom. You're kidding, fly by wire? Yeah, So,

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Speaker 4: but what happens today because the new jets they only

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Speaker 4: have one seat, so you never fly the air The

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Speaker 4: first time you ever fly a new fighter jet is

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Speaker 4: by yourself. There is no back seat, no one to

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Speaker 4: help you. So the simulators now the environment that you

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Speaker 4: train in all. Yeah, you go to the computer arcades,

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Speaker 4: you see all those fighter gates now, the pilots. It's

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Speaker 4: more realistic and more training value in the simulators sure

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Speaker 4: than the actual airplane. So we have a lot of those,

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Speaker 4: and the guys and girls train on that every single day.

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Speaker 1: There's a new in the new movie. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I'm giving away too much here, but there's a there's

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Speaker 1: a stealth jet that it's like it's a top secret jet.

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Speaker 3: You're using UFO technology. Yeah, do you know anything about it?

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Speaker 3: What is he flying? What's the crow flying?

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of conjecture about, you know, hypersonics by airplanes,

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Speaker 4: which is what that is and that the US has

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Speaker 4: got these incredible machines out of Area fifty one skunk works.

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Speaker 3: And I knew a fighter pilot once as an American.

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Speaker 4: I'm a managing part of a company got after Burner,

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Speaker 4: which is a global team of fighter pilots. I was

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Speaker 4: talking to one of them and he was saying that

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Speaker 4: can see a long way out.

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Speaker 3: They can see just about everything.

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Speaker 4: And he said he saw that he saw this thing

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Speaker 4: the other fighter pilots could see it as well. So UFO,

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Speaker 4: most of us have seen something weird like that before.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, how did you see?

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Speaker 4: But yeah, you just see things that you can't explain,

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Speaker 3: Like a whale with sonar underwater.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you see things and you're like, what's that

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Speaker 4: and it's sometimes you can tell it's spurious, and sometimes

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Speaker 4: you're like, no, it's really it's seeing something.

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Speaker 3: But that things doing things are airplanes.

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Speaker 1: You can see on the radar how fast it's going.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, how fast it's going straight up, straight down

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Speaker 3: Of whiffer deal. Can you talk to me about?

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Speaker 2: So what the plane fits he's talking about of the

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Speaker 2: super sonic jet or whatever it is, undetectable jet at

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Speaker 2: the start of the movie and they're talking about mac.

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Speaker 2: So that's a speed.

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Speaker 3: So that's the speed that sound travel.

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Speaker 4: So so if you if we're having a conversation right

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Speaker 4: so we would wait for our voice to catch up.

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Speaker 4: And at that speed, your air gets compressed, so you

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Speaker 4: It gets compressed and.

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Speaker 2: Then booms, sonic boom.

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Speaker 3: That's a sonic boom.

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Speaker 4: There's a great video of a of Australia F one

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Speaker 4: eleven many years ago flying past a tower and booms

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Speaker 4: it and the glass explodes on YouTube. The glass explodes,

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Speaker 4: everyone falls over, he loses his job.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know that sonic boom can actually be

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Speaker 2: So you run out of what.

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Speaker 4: So mark Mark means it's about six hundred and sixty,

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Speaker 4: about eight and a miles per hour six hundred right now.

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Speaker 2: And what's the fastest we've got in Australia. How fast

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Speaker 4: Interesting question, but about one and a half one and

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Speaker 2: So and then when you talk about G forces, and

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Speaker 2: And I feel it even when a commercial flight banks

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Speaker 2: feel that weight, that's sinking feeling. I can't imagine what

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Speaker 3: For you guys.

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Speaker 2: I mean that would take so much training not.

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Speaker 3: To black to fear flying me. I was going to

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Speaker 2: So what what forces do we feel on a commercial flight?

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Speaker 2: How many?

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Speaker 4: About three passed out boot No, because that's bad. So

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Speaker 5: Have you ever had to reject from a plane because

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Speaker 5: we were chatting about this just before you walked in,

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Speaker 5: and Tommy, our producer, was saying that apparently when a

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Speaker 5: it crushes your spine.

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Speaker 2: Is that true that most.

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Speaker 4: Most pilots fly again after they eject. There's a famous

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Speaker 4: story about an American that ejected supersonic so into that

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Speaker 4: into a brick wall. Basic lad just got basically mushed

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Speaker 4: he still lived putting back together.

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Speaker 3: And I know no one in Australia has ever ejected.

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Speaker 3: No one in Australia's rejected.

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Speaker 2: But you still do the training and you're ready to

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Speaker 2: go if they needed absolutely. Yeah, yeah, it's a it's

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Speaker 2: a pretty easy decision make. I'm about to die, Yeah, I'll.

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Speaker 3: Eject, Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 2: But that's why they say, I mean, for someone that

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Speaker 2: doesn't like flying too, when they talk about putting a

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Speaker 2: parachute on an aeroplane and then when you do that,

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Speaker 2: you give up all control.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, well it's the little air of planes. Now

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Speaker 4: you get a parachute, it all goes wrong. You can,

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Speaker 4: you can float down, but for the big ones, we're

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Speaker 3: That's a big parachute. That's a huge parachute.

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Speaker 2: This is really fascinating.

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Speaker 1: So the other thing as well, just quickly, have you

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Speaker 1: heard about Tom Cruise? He can fly some of these planes? Tom, Yes,

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Speaker 1: well for your industry?

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Speaker 4: I can't believe whip has never even seen you know what.

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Speaker 2: Having seen the second one, I didn't need to see

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Speaker 2: the first in terms of carrying the storyline.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so so good as a movie. The first

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Speaker 2: You know, you hear all about it, so I knew

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Speaker 4: I took I took my son, you know, he was

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Speaker 4: about eleven. They had the thirtieth anniversary showing and it

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Speaker 3: And well, dad, that was that was pretty cool. Was

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Speaker 3: a question man?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, no, the question of Tom Cruise flying

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Speaker 1: those fly Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: He's a hicking fly airplanes. He's a commercial helicopter pilot

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Speaker 4: as well. There's quite a lot of sleeves at flyerplanes.

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Speaker 4: You got John Travolta change Revolt, but.

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Speaker 5: Tom Cruise they wouldn't let him near the really important

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Speaker 4: No, No, I mean it's four hundred oddmissions two and

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Speaker 4: So they're in the back seat with the cameras and

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Speaker 4: whilst they've got to fly it, you wouldn't want them.

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Speaker 2: To taking the other thing needs to You're trying to

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Speaker 2: work out what's real when you're watching the show and

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Speaker 2: what's possible and what's just Hollywood. But when a plane

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Speaker 3: A very slim. Yes and no.

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Speaker 4: So again it depends. It's such a complex environment and

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's so many complexities.

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Speaker 4: But if you're in that what we call the heart

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Speaker 3: We've got a lot of we can. It's a lot

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Speaker 2: But that you know, when you see it on like

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Speaker 3: It's crazy, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like owning a Harley Davidson when when you're cutting

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Speaker 4: about making that sort of noise.

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Speaker 2: Do you miss it now you've left?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was unfortunately medically discharged, right, so I had

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Speaker 4: at the same time, with what I do now, I

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Speaker 4: still get to connect with fighter pilots. We tell our story,

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Speaker 4: lot of people just don't know their limits. Yes, you

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Speaker 4: And because we're pushed every day in training a little

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Speaker 4: you just become so comfortable with everything. There is no

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Speaker 2: So similar to all those lessons you just I mean,

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Speaker 2: we'll do sometimes we'll do riddle time on a Thursday

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Speaker 3: You can do that anytime. It's fighter pilot mindset.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: You've got a website, call me Boo dot com. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's the that's the website.

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Speaker 4: So that's that's all about fighter pilot mindset, thinking quick,

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Speaker 4: getting comfortable and discomfort, embrace, embracing change, just all all.

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Speaker 3: That good stuff it.

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Speaker 1: Buddy, kids out there, if you're thinking about being a

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Speaker 1: fire fighter, if you want to be a fighter pilot yourself, kids,

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Speaker 1: get onto the website and.

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Speaker 3: You get more information there. Mate, we appreciate you coming in.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Thanks books,