WEBVTT - Sharri | 27 March 0:00:00.600 --> 0:00:04.240 Good evening, and that was Peter Dutton delivering his Budget 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:07.680 reply speech, his vision for the nation if he becomes 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:12.080 Prime Minister. Some major announcements there and it sets the 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:16.520 stage for one high stakes political battle. The Prime Minister 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:19.320 is now set to visit the Governor General at Yarralumla 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:22.680 tomorrow morning and we'll have full coverage of this speech 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:26.159 and the political contest on the show tonight. Now, this 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:30.120 is a battle between alban Easy promising tax cuts worth 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:33.320 five dollars a week from next July and Peter Dutton 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:37.960 pledging fourteen dollars a week off your petrol prices. This 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:39.080 is the battlefield. 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:39.639 Now. 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:42.800 There were four big policies unveiled by Peter Dutton in 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:46.400 his Budget reply speech just now. Firstly he said he'd 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:52.000 introduce legislation to lower energy prices, then laws that would 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:56.440 lower immigration and build more homes for Australians. He'd have 0:00:56.520 --> 0:01:01.120 the Keeping Australians Safe Bill, that's national security and guaranteed 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:05.399 funding for health, education and essential services. Now we're going 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:07.800 to go through some of these big announcements that I'm 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:10.000 going to have full coverage on the show tonight. Ross 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:14.000 Greenwood and Tom Connell's standing by Bronwyn Bishop too. Now, 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:17.200 on energy, Peter Dutton announced a national gas plan. This 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:20.240 was a big announcement tonight. He said Australians are paying 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:23.399 some of the highest power prices in the world. Now 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:26.959 we already know about his nuclear policy, but here Dutton 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:28.440 just spoke about gas. 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.840 And he said it's key to keeping the lights on. 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:34.720 Australia has an abundant supply of natural gas and he 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:39.039 wants to ramp up domestic gas production. He spoke about 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:42.880 fast tracking projects that are ready to go, harving approval 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:48.360 times and defunding the activist led Environmental Defender's Office. He's 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:52.720 also going to invest in critical gas infrastructure to increase 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:55.640 the gas pipeline and storage capacity. 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:56.279 Have a look. 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:01.240 His plan will prioritize to mister gas supply, address shortfalls 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:05.360 and reduce energy prices for Australians. This is all about 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:10.800 ensuring Australian gas is for Australians. We will immediately introduce 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:15.359 an East Coast gas reservation. This will require a proportion 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:19.080 between fifty to one hundred pedadules with spot cargo exports 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:22.519 to be delivered to the domestic market. This will secure 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:26.040 an additional ten to twenty percent of these coast demand 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:30.239 gas which would otherwise be exported for use in other 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:34.480 markets by consumers in those countries. But our gas needs 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:37.079 to be first and foremost for our people. 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:41.760 And dark and claim that would be a saving of 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:45.760 around two hundred and sixty three billion dollars now. Immigration, 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:48.360 this was a big area for the opposition leader. He's 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:52.400 tonight linked housing with immigration. He outlined the problem it's 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:55.200 one you all know about that Albin Eazy has run 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:59.360 a big Australia program with a million new migrants in 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:03.040 his first two years in office, but then Labour failed 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:06.720 to build a single new house under its ten billion 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:10.280 dollar housing fund. Well tonight, Dutnan has said that he'd 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:12.839 cut the permanent migration program. 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:14.680 By twenty five percent. 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:15.440 Now. 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:17.640 He didn't put a figure in his speech, but he 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:21.639 has previously said that he'd bring down net overseas migration 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:25.560 to one hundred and sixty thousand a year. This compares 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:28.480 to Labour's figure which is currently at three hundred and 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:30.320 thirty five thousand a year. 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:31.200 Now. 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:34.960 On housing, Duttan said that first home buyers will be 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:38.760 able to access up to fifty thousand dollars from their 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:43.240 superannuation for home deposit. This is already a highly popular 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:47.920 policy with young voters. Now he also spoke other areas 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:52.760 help about incentivizing junior doctors to workers GPS. To address 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:56.680 the shortage, he announced an extra four hundred million dollars 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:01.640 for youth mental health services. Now on Tuesday night, we 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:06.360 didn't hear Treasurer Jim Chalmers focus on defense or national 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:11.360 security issues like anti semitism and his budget speech. Now 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:15.320 this shows the different priorities from Labour to the Coalition 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:20.080 because Dutton just now spoke very strongly about funding and 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:24.799 strengthening national security. Now here when he speaks about crime, 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:28.200 national security and anti Samitism. This was one of the 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:29.480 strongest parts of his speech. 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:34.080 During my travels across the country, Australians tell me they've 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:37.320 never been more worried about crime and division in our community. 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:41.000 It started with the Prime Minister's Voice referendum, which sought 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:44.880 to divide our country by ancestry and race. He then 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:47.720 left a vacuum of leadership following the crime wave in 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.920 Elie Springs and the anti semitism on the steps of 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:54.040 the Sydney Opera House. All too often the Prime Minister 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:58.760 is too late and too equivocal. This government has released 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:03.440 three hundred hardcore ominals from immigration to tens into the community, 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:07.760 with more than a third having reoffended against Australian citizens. 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:11.560 It granted tourist visas to three thousand people from a 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:16.960 terrorist controlled warzone, conducted without security checks that should have 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:20.760 been put in place. It's failed to deter people smugglers 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:24.160 trying to reach our shores by illegal boats. It's turned 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:28.000 a blind eye when our military personnel have been endangered, 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:31.040 and it didn't stand up for our country when Chinese 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:34.360 communist warships entered our waters without notice. 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:37.800 Now, Dartan is right to focus on crime and this 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:42.320 sense of insecurity because too many Australians are worried about 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:45.880 life at the moment, whether it's youth crime in Queensland, 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:50.360 home invasions in Melbourne, anti Semitism in Melbourne and Sydney, 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:53.560 or the crime wave in our springs. This is a 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:57.720 major issue for many voters now. Darton also spoke about 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:02.640 what he called moral political leadership that he said he'd 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:06.279 provide and he says this is necessary to restore law 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:07.120 and order. 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:08.880 We also heard him speak. 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:12.760 About strength strengthening bail laws to stop domestic violence offenders 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:17.880 having national knife crime laws stopping the votes and got 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:21.719 a very popular reaction from his colleagues deporting criminals who 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:26.200 aren't Australian citizens. And he also spoke about one of 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:29.520 the outcomes from our Sky News Antisemitism summit. 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:34.720 We will establish a dedicated antisemitism task force to turn 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:36.360 the tide of this scourge of hatred. 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:41.360 Of course, that's incredibly welcome news that. On defense, he 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:46.480 said he will invest significant funding. He said it would 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:49.080 be an election announcement to come over the coming weeks 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:52.440 and he didn't make that there this evening now. Dutton 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:55.159 also painted the picture of the future he'd deliver for 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:59.760 Australia and he explained how difficult life has been for voters, 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:03.080 particularly with the cost of living crisis. He said that 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:07.599 rents are up eighteen percent under the Albenzy government, housing 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:13.120 up fourteen percent, groceries up thirty percent, electricity up thirty 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:17.680 two percent, insurance up thirty five percent, and he promised 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:20.360 that he'd be able to bring this all down as 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:25.240 he tackles inflation. He also committed to making some savings 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:28.160 in the budget. He said he would scrap the twenty 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:32.000 billion dollar, rewiring the Nation Fund, the ten billion dollar 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:36.000 Housing Australia Future Fund that hasn't built a single home. 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:38.960 He said he'd get rid of the sixteen billion dollars 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:43.200 of production tax credits for green hydrogen and critical minerals. 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:47.160 He'd also makes seven billion dollars in savings from actsing 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:51.320 forty one thousand he says camera based public servants that 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:53.520 have been hired under the Labor government. 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:54.440 Now. 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:59.000 Dutton argued that this election is critical for the future 0:07:59.160 --> 0:07:59.880 of Australia. 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:04.320 But this election does matter more than others in recent history. 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:08.480 It is a sliding doors moment for our nation. A 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:11.680 return to Albaneza government in any form won't just be 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:15.760 another three bleak years. More economic mistakes will take a 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:19.239 lot longer to recover from. Setbacks will be set in stone, 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:22.600 and our prosperity will be damaged for decades to come. 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.800 But you have the power to change the path our 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:30.840 country is on. You have the ability to reverse decline 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:34.280 and you have the opportunity to get our country back 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:34.840 on track. 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.600 Now, as I said, the Prime Minister is set to 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:39.839 visit the Governor. 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:41.760 General in the morning and call the election. 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:44.480 Now we know that one of the biggest battles in 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:50.080 this campaign will be Dutton's fuel excise versus Albanese's coffee 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:51.360 shot tax cut. 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:53.360 Now, the fuel excise. 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:55.160 Has been subject I can tell you now it has 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.520 been subject to focus group research. 0:08:57.600 --> 0:08:58.400 The Liberals have. 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:03.640 Tested this magnificantly extensively before announcing it, and it's very 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:07.200 popular in the outer suburban areas, the seats that the 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:10.480 Coalition needs to win. It's not as popular in the 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:15.200 inner city metropolitan areas. Now, this is in my view 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:19.440 high risk for the Coalition to oppose tax cuts in 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:22.760 an election campaign, no question. This is a high risk 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:26.640 strategy that are shocked many on both sides of politics today. 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:30.720 But Peter Dutton is confident he'll be able to convince 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:36.000 voters that his petrol price relief is worth more than 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:39.000 the five dollars tax cut that comes into effect in 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:44.160 fifteen months time. Now, Dutton's policy means paying around fourteen 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:46.800 dollars less in petrol a week based on a fifty 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:50.960 five liter tank. Now, he sharpened his key attack over 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:52.800 this in Question Time today. 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:56.800 The Prime Minister has caused a lot of pain to 0:09:56.840 --> 0:10:00.319 Australian families over the last three years. I'm going to 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:02.720 join with me in cutting the price of petrol and 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:06.959 diesel to save trainees, pensioners and families up to twenty 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:10.079 eight dollars a week instead of me seventy cent a 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:14.320 day tax cut which doesn't even come in for fifteen 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:16.640 months now. 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:20.319 Alban Easy would usually allow a week for his budget 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:23.680 to be sold across the country, but the headlines have 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:27.360 been mostly negative, focusing on the decade of deficits, a 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:30.480 trillion dollars in debt and a tax cut the size 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.320 of a cup of coffee. So this time tomorrow we 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:36.560 will be in an election campaign and at this point 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:41.679 either side can win. Darton is strength strengthening his position 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:46.280 in suburban areas, while Labour's vote has cemented in the 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:51.840 metropolitan areas. This election is genuinely up for grabs right now, 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:53.480 despite what the polls say. 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:54.840 The battle will. 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:58.360 Be intense, the spin will be excruciating, and will be 0:10:58.440 --> 0:10:59.959 here every night. 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:01.079 To call it out. 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:04.760 Okay, let's get into the coverage and reaction for Bud 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:07.440 Dutton's budget reply speech tonight and let's bring in now 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:11.800 sky News political reporter Tom Connell and Sky News Business 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:16.080 editor Ross Greenwood. I've still got Robin Bishop Basil Zamplers 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:19.280 and Pauline Hansen or coming up ross. 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.400 Great to see you. What were your main takeouts from 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:22.160 Dutton's speech. 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:25.080 There's no doubt the energy piece was the biggest one 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:27.360 there because that's the one that can have the most 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:31.560 significant impact on the prices that Australians pay. Energy prices 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:33.600 have gone through the roof. When you've got government having 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:37.320 to step in to basically underwrite the price that energy 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:40.880 costs people, you know that there's something wrong with the system. 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:43.760 And yet despite the fact that Australians know we have 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:47.760 plenty of energy, and yet these whole transformation to renewables 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:51.200 simply has come at a significant cost to Australians. And 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:54.239 that cost is not just in the price that households 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:56.880 are paying, but it's actually long term in the price 0:11:57.000 --> 0:12:00.000 that Australia pays in terms of business being driven over. 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:02.960 And so by effectively saying that we are going to 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:06.480 direct more gas from Queensland into the local market rather 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:09.400 than being exported, there is a conversation that Peter Dutton, 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:11.520 as a Prime Minister, would have to have with some 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.440 of those customers of that gas. But the reality is 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:17.079 that many of those customers have been dropping their demand 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:20.559 for Australian gas in recent times. So this means there's 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:24.280 potentially some sort of gas coming to the system that 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:27.599 would power between two and a quarter and four and 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:31.240 a half million households. That's how much gas he's calling 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:34.080 to go into the local system to drive down the 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:38.160 wholesale price of gas from around fourteen dollars pergocajuel down 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:38.560 to ten. 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:40.840 And he'd need to work with the States on this 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:44.920 as well, presumably Tom Connell. These two speeches we've heard 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:48.200 this week from Jim Chalmers and our Peter Dutton, very 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:53.240 different speeches. What stood out for you from Dutton's speech tonight. 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:56.200 I won't go over too much old ground. I do 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.240 think number one with a bullet was gas. There's a 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:01.200 lot to answer a whennex exactly. It starts as he's 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:04.280 spoken to gas companies for example, and is there maybe 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:06.360 a quid pro quo that if they're a bit worse 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:09.440 off in the short term, him talking about really speeding 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:12.840 up development if he can get agreement with the States, 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:16.000 as you alluded to, might be the payoff places like 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:18.600 Narra Brye for example, that could be ready pretty soon 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:20.880 if things are actually getting to train I'll pick out 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.720 a couple of things that might be a bit different Shari. 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:27.120 One was public servants. Now, no surprise, forty one thousand 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:30.880 public servants, he says, we'll go. He did say camera based. Now, 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:33.800 the overall number that are employed here in Camera is 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:37.360 eighty thousand, so if half of the camera based public 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.599 servants go, that'd be pretty dramatic, you know, as a 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:42.640 now Camberra and it had actually one in six of 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:45.760 our overall workers in the city. Now, I'm not saying 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.080 the coalition cares about seats here, but I wonder if 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:48.960 they're not actually all. 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:50.439 Camera based there around the country. 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:52.800 And the other one I found really interesting was alluding 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:53.520 to John Howard. 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:54.920 Now this doesn't surprise me. 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:55.240 I don't know. 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:58.000 John Howard is very respected amongst plenty in the electorate. 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:01.080 But I do find it interesting that, of course, the 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:03.600 last time John Howard won an election was two thousand 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:05.920 and four. So if you think of the age of voters, 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:09.840 then you're talking about people at are forty plus. Now 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:13.280 that's about half the voters in Australia have never voted 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:16.160 in an election where John Howard actually won an election. 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.840 So I think it's not a surprise that we used 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:22.840 in the campaign. He's respected, but is he going to 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:26.880 perhaps not so much alienate himself with voters. But is 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:30.040 he so much a guiding star still in twenty twenty five, 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.400 when many voters would have seen at the very end 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:35.200 of his career. So just a couple of interesting elements 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:37.040 of the speech. We do have more detail to come 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:40.720 on this. On migration, for example, what's the permanent migration 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:44.200 figure going to be? For example? And also defense spending 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.160 that's going to be a big one. An interesting part 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:48.680 of that as well. Defense share it's not people might 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:49.920 not think it's a retail issue. 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:51.240 This is becoming really big. 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:55.240 I understand in various focus groups they're saying defense is 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:57.520 important to them, they want money spent on it. They're 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:01.160 now concerned about their own security, a sort of almost 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:02.400 bread and butter issue. 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:05.120 And the other thing that we still are yet to 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:08.360 see detail on is you know, the projections that they're 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:12.520 total spending, the total deficits and debt that they're forecasting 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:14.920 as well. Ross, I want to ask you about what 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.720 is shaping up to be the biggest debate at the moment, 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:22.280 the tax cuts from alban Easy and what Peter Dutton 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:26.320 has announced just this evening the petrol price relief, which 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:28.920 if it's an average car, will be around fourteen dollars 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:33.880 a week. Now, what's your view on how I genuinely 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:36.520 was shocked to find out that they would be opposing 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:38.960 the tax cuts and not delivering a more generous package 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:41.400 of their own. What do you think about how hard 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:43.040 it will be for them to sell this message. 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:45.440 It's interesting people do not like the amount of tax 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:48.400 that governments take out of petrol, There's no doubt about that, 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:50.880 and so as a result, that's sending a message that 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:55.200 that affects everybody, even people who don't pay tax. Remember 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:58.840 the pensioners drive cars and don't pay tax, and so 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:02.040 from that point of view, it more broadly across the community. 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:05.520 That's the reason why it's smart policy. The issue there 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:08.600 is really it's temporary. So all of this is temporary. 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:11.400 What you didn't hear from either the budget and you 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:14.160 didn't hear it from Peter Dutton is the strategy to 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:18.040 get Australia going again. Now, the energy policy goes partly there, 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:20.520 but there is nothing there. And this is where again, 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:23.160 where is the vision? Where is the drive for Australia 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:25.280 what you got ab out of Peter Dutton. There was 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:31.080 perhaps some more traditional Australia values going to the education system, 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.320 going to defense of the country, which are all very 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:36.160 basic and important things. But where's the drive to get 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.280 Australia going again? And that's what I think was really 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:41.280 missing from both sides of politics in the budget and 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:42.840 budget in reply, it. 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:45.800 Was good to hear Dutton though, speak about values tonight 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:47.920 and more of a vision for the country, which I 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:51.080 think was probably has been missing from the Alberneazy government 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:54.600 in general. All Right, Tom Connell, Ross Greenwood, thank you 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:57.800 very much for your thoughts on that speech tonight. Let's 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:02.000 bringing now One Nation Leader Pauline Hannah. Now, Pauline, you've 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:06.400 been calling for decades now to lower the immigration rate. 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:10.040 This is something Peter Dutton has outlined this evening. 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:11.639 He hasn't quite. 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:13.840 Put a figure, though we have heard before that he's 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:16.280 indicated he'd like to see between one hundred and forty 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:19.920 and one hundred and sixty thousand migrants come to Australia. 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:23.119 Do you think this will be a very popular area 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:24.440 for voters for. 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:29.280 Him most definitely, I think will if he looks at 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:31.760 one hundred and forty one hundred and sixty thousand. Dot'll 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.920 be fine. We're targeting one hundred and thirty thousand until 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:38.640 we actually rain in. The oversupply of migrants we've had 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:41.080 come in Australia's put it such a strain on our 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:44.719 infrastructure and our housing. It's very important to lower it 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:46.720 for a few years till we can manage it a 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:49.280 lot better. So if he reduces that, all he said 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:52.080 was reducing it by twenty five percent from what figure. 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:55.440 So immigration is one of the biggest issues satisfacting the 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:58.560 strands because of the housing, and we don't have housing 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:01.680 for Austrands here. I was pleased to see that he 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:05.000 picked up my policy about reducing the excise tax on 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:08.720 fuel because that was my policy I released in February, 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:10.919 so he's picked it up, which I'm pleased about. The 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:13.879 house in the issue, Yes, he's right. The Labor government 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:17.080 have built one house, the ten billion dollar fund. But 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:19.119 if Peter Dutton's wanting to get rid of the twenty 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:23.600 billion into rewiring Australia and other aspects of the hydrogen 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:25.680 why not get rid of the Climate Department. 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:26.399 We don't need it. 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.560 Why didn't he say to get out of the Paris Agreement. 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:33.880 This is destroying our country, our prosperity, and I think 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:36.080 that we need to really look at that. And this 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:38.520 is the difference with one nation. We will hold them 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:41.440 to account if the Labor gets in back in government 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:45.320 with the Greens, which I hope they don't because they 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:48.120 have destroyed our economy in the future of this nation, 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:52.240 but we will hold them to account, whereas we will 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:55.000 also hold the Liberal Party to account. Now I think 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:58.439 that Peter Dutton delivered a very good speech his future 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:00.840 for Australia, but they have to be held to account 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:03.359 that they will deliver it, and one nation will do that. 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:06.200 Pauline, I just want to pick up there and when 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:08.680 you said that it was actually your policy to have 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:13.080 a petrol price of petrol fuel excise, petrol price relief, 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:17.040 I didn't realize that was your policy. How do you 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:20.400 think voters will receive that compared with the tax cut, 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:22.640 Because we know that Labour's going to go out there 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.760 and say that the Coalition has voted against a tax cut, 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:27.760 they voted against cost of living relief. 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:30.600 That'll be the line that the Prime Minister says every 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:32.320 single day of the election campaign. 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:34.840 So you know do you think voters are going to 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:38.879 understand that the that the fuel excise would be worth 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:41.840 more in their pocket depending on where they live and 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:43.760 if they have a tient than the tax cut. 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:45.119 Yep. 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:48.080 Labor is going to be very good at their campaigning 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:52.399 and their advertising to get across the strans that and 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:55.560 they did this with the Medicare scare campaign last time around. 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:58.960 So what they're already putting out the advertising is the 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:03.679 Libs want to cut your education, cut your health, but 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:06.360 they don't want to cut your tax relief. So this 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:09.040 is the scare campaign that's already going out there. So 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:13.640 I think that don't They passed the budget measures last night, 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:17.680 but they cut but they didn't agree to the tax cuts. 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:20.359 The stupid part about it. They should have actually be 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:24.640 seeing that they've given the Labor government ammunition to use 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:27.600 against them in their advertising coming up to the selection. 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:29.240 That's all in the minds of people. 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:32.640 We want tax relief, we want to have relief from 0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:34.720 the cost of living, and it's going to be hard 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:37.000 for them to get the message across. Labor do far 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:39.760 better in marketing, So that's why I. 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:41.000 Supported the tax cuts. 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:43.960 Yes, we do need tax cuts, but one nation is 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:47.119 put out there to income split which will save a 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:50.479 household you know, far better money if they looked at 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:52.960 that and cut back to your government spending. 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:56.040 Yeah all right, Pauline Hanson really appreciate you joining us 0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:58.199 on There's a big news night tonight. 0:20:58.200 --> 0:20:59.040 Thank you for your time. 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:02.760 Think she's right, Laby is better at retail politics, at 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:05.080 least at the moment than the current front bench. 0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:06.040 But we'll see. 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:08.880 Peter Dutton has the fight in him. He knows the 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:11.679 election is up for grabs. Now we are going to 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:15.320 get more budget coverage and more analysis on Peter Dutton's 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:17.760 reply speech throughout the show, but before we get to that, 0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:21.040