WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 10 September 0:00:02.750 --> 0:00:08.030 This is Paul Murray Live. Thank you, Steve. Hope you've 0:00:08.050 --> 0:00:10.270 got a ticket. It's going to be mega, mega. All 0:00:10.350 --> 0:00:12.879 eyes on Melbourne. And I don't just mean Australia, literally. 0:00:13.180 --> 0:00:15.200 Tens of millions will be there. About 30 million apparently 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:18.160 watching in the US. A big part of the NFL 0:00:18.180 --> 0:00:20.960 game that will be taking place in Melbourne is because 0:00:21.020 --> 0:00:23.400 the Victorian government is paying for it. There will be 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:28.640 lots of examples of Victorian icons, tourism. So the theory 0:00:28.740 --> 0:00:31.910 is watch the game. Come visit the country. We will 0:00:31.930 --> 0:00:34.530 have three games in Australia for the NFL over the 0:00:34.570 --> 0:00:37.530 next five years. Alright, tonight on the show we'll get 0:00:37.550 --> 0:00:39.089 to winners and losers of the week. We're going to 0:00:39.110 --> 0:00:42.470 have a chat to a politician who is absolutely taking 0:00:42.909 --> 0:00:44.979 it to the government when it comes to these rorts 0:00:45.220 --> 0:00:47.879 that are taking place. And Colin Flynn will join us 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:53.080 from the US. But obviously tomorrow is the 25th marking 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:57.330 of September 11. If you lived that history... You remember 0:00:57.370 --> 0:00:59.950 exactly where you were and how we all felt at 0:00:59.970 --> 0:01:03.150 the time. We knew that something had changed. We knew 0:01:03.190 --> 0:01:06.869 that something had changed forever. Little did we know how 0:01:06.930 --> 0:01:11.380 much was going to change. But it's important to remember 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:16.140 that while we lived that history, there are millions of Australians, 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:19.780 about seven million Australians, who were too young or not born. 0:01:20.459 --> 0:01:24.650 So they don't remember what it was like to go 0:01:24.690 --> 0:01:28.130 to the airport and not have... the levels of security 0:01:28.610 --> 0:01:32.470 that exist when it comes to flying. The idea that 0:01:32.490 --> 0:01:36.450 there was an Australia that was able to hold an 0:01:36.490 --> 0:01:41.179 Olympic Games at the beginning of the 21st century in 0:01:41.220 --> 0:01:47.720 a relatively low security environment only a couple of years 0:01:47.780 --> 0:01:51.500 later to see everything change when you go into a 0:01:51.540 --> 0:01:56.530 public place. Those people who didn't live it don't remember 0:01:57.740 --> 0:02:00.060 One of the many things that was so frightening about 0:02:00.100 --> 0:02:04.720 that particular night was it dawned on us that because 0:02:04.780 --> 0:02:11.010 they used planes to hit a building, that anything could 0:02:11.050 --> 0:02:17.190 be a weapon and everything could be a target. The 0:02:17.230 --> 0:02:22.860 people who didn't live the experience of 25 years ago 0:02:24.740 --> 0:02:29.489 don't remember the moral clarity of about wanting not just 0:02:29.570 --> 0:02:34.330 to avenge the dead, but more importantly, to punish those 0:02:34.370 --> 0:02:41.990 who were responsible. History, of course, is something that we 0:02:42.030 --> 0:02:46.260 only get to live a small sliver of for obvious reasons. History, 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:50.440 of course, is thousands of years in that direction. The 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:53.679 physical history of the earth, millions of years before that. 0:02:56.230 --> 0:03:01.410 And as the generations change, what we live through becomes 0:03:01.470 --> 0:03:04.930 something that we tell our kids about that eventually becomes 0:03:05.010 --> 0:03:09.170 something that kids read about. And in the same way 0:03:09.230 --> 0:03:13.250 for Gen X, we read about World War I and Gallipoli, 0:03:13.980 --> 0:03:16.730 but we didn't know anyone who had physically been through it. 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:21.540 So it had gone from being this nation that was 0:03:21.620 --> 0:03:27.160 forged in the crucible of World War I to being 0:03:27.940 --> 0:03:32.020 an item in a textbook. I never thought World War 0:03:32.100 --> 0:03:34.920 II would become like that because it was my grandparents, 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:37.900 it was perhaps your parents, it might have even been you, 0:03:38.700 --> 0:03:41.540 who was right in the middle of that lived experience, 0:03:43.210 --> 0:03:48.210 who remembers the moral clarity for why they had to 0:03:48.250 --> 0:03:52.190 stop the Nazis, why they had to repel the Japanese, 0:03:53.030 --> 0:03:59.700 about what was on the line. Again, similarly, about the 0:03:59.980 --> 0:04:03.870 Bali bombings, when Bali had gone from a place where 0:04:04.230 --> 0:04:10.170 generations of Australians had gone on holidays until 88 Australians 0:04:10.590 --> 0:04:15.810 were murdered in the worst possible way. And again, this 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.060 peaceful place that you didn't even think was going to 0:04:18.100 --> 0:04:22.040 be a problem became something where you started to look 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:25.720 over your shoulders. Just recently, of course, we have all 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:31.670 lived the history of Bondi. The idea that a celebration 0:04:31.850 --> 0:04:35.970 in summer of your faith would be anything other than 0:04:35.990 --> 0:04:42.310 a lovely memory for a family. For that generation of 0:04:42.350 --> 0:04:47.210 people who have grown up post 9-11, they don't remember 0:04:47.230 --> 0:04:49.990 the moral clarity of the war or the need for 0:04:50.010 --> 0:04:53.099 the war on terror or the the line in the 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:55.380 sand that was saying this is not going to happen, 0:04:55.420 --> 0:04:57.060 we're not going to have the change in the world. 0:04:57.100 --> 0:05:01.340 So they don't remember the clarity about why we had 0:05:01.380 --> 0:05:07.029 to strike back, about why it was Afghanistan, about why 0:05:07.450 --> 0:05:14.050 there was a singular focus on trying to make sure 0:05:14.500 --> 0:05:21.760 that everything's a weapon, anything is a target, doesn't happen here. So, 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:25.520 of course, strengthen love to anyone with a personal connection 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:29.330 to any of this history, specifically the history that will 0:05:29.370 --> 0:05:33.870 be marked in the next couple of days. But it 0:05:33.990 --> 0:05:38.390 is behoven on all of us to not be able 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:40.839 to replicate what it was like to live through the history, 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:44.540 but to be able to pass on the clarity of 0:05:44.660 --> 0:05:47.560 feeling that you had in the moment and the day after. 0:05:49.500 --> 0:05:51.780 Because the further you get away from that, there's a 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:54.960 whole bunch of people who want to add context. The 0:05:54.980 --> 0:05:59.560 black and white must be turned into grey again. But 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:03.020 just as we felt in Bondi, September 11, Bali, World 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:08.260 War II, and the list goes on forever. The world 0:06:08.339 --> 0:06:12.580 changes and it changes forever. On an individual level, it 0:06:12.620 --> 0:06:17.279 could be a horrific accident. It could be a terrible crime. 0:06:18.210 --> 0:06:22.770 It could be an awful medical episode. And when you're young, 0:06:23.810 --> 0:06:25.470 there's not a massive chance of any of that happening. 0:06:25.490 --> 0:06:28.310 So somehow you think history happened to somebody else. Well, 0:06:28.330 --> 0:06:32.029 the message to anyone who wasn't born for September 11 is, 0:06:32.050 --> 0:06:35.690 guess what, history is going to happen to you. And 0:06:35.730 --> 0:06:40.060 it does change you. And there's nothing wrong with seeing 0:06:40.420 --> 0:06:43.539 things every now and then that are black and white, 0:06:44.500 --> 0:06:49.180 right and wrong. because those traumas are what helped build 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:52.099 us into the people that we are today, to what 0:06:52.140 --> 0:06:55.100 we demand of our governments, to how we interact with 0:06:55.140 --> 0:06:58.849 each other as citizens, to the conversations that we have 0:06:58.870 --> 0:07:06.750 each and every night. So Labor's red hot wrought. That's 0:07:06.770 --> 0:07:08.330 the best I can get right now, but we'll get 0:07:08.770 --> 0:07:11.640 further onto a final nickname for it. Keep sending the 0:07:11.700 --> 0:07:15.900 emails here. This of course is the absolute disgrace That 0:07:15.940 --> 0:07:19.940 was the government putting half a billion dollars aside and 0:07:19.990 --> 0:07:23.130 then doling it out like they were rappers in a 0:07:23.270 --> 0:07:29.170 strip club. It was raining cash. Unsurprisingly, it was raining 0:07:29.230 --> 0:07:34.670 cash in mostly Labor seats. But remember, spending is nothing 0:07:34.710 --> 0:07:36.430 new to the bloke who has tipped us past a 0:07:36.510 --> 0:07:41.310 trillion dollars in debt. Remember, every single day, a billion here, 0:07:41.470 --> 0:07:42.270 a million there. 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:43.680 A $ 7. 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:46.380 2 billion announcement today $ 5 million $ 10 million $ 200 million. 0:07:45.980 --> 0:07:48.360 $ 3 billion $ 350 million $ 2 billion $ 37 million $ 842 million $ 2. 0:07:48.260 --> 0:07:49.020 4 billion $ 8. 0:07:48.860 --> 0:07:49.540 5 billion $ 4. 0:07:49.300 --> 0:07:51.400 8 billion $ 1 billion $ 3. 4 billion $ 2. 8 billion $ 200 million 0:07:51.420 --> 0:08:14.160 And it goes on and on on a little bit 0:08:14.180 --> 0:08:18.520 like history there's deficits remember the intergenerational report says deficits 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:21.410 for the next well 40 years but who cares look 0:08:21.450 --> 0:08:25.090 over there jackie lamb is yelling seriously the big stories 0:08:26.830 --> 0:08:29.240 but of course beneath all of those major announcements were 0:08:29.260 --> 0:08:31.580 these small announcements but they all add up to the 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:33.800 half a billion dollars that we've been talking about for 0:08:33.820 --> 0:08:37.480 a couple of nights here a red hot wrought scheme One, 0:08:38.059 --> 0:08:41.590 that even Channel 9, even Channel 9, who normally give 0:08:41.610 --> 0:08:45.990 them a free pass, well, they saw how dodgy this is, remember? 0:08:48.130 --> 0:08:51.990 Whereas the sports rort scandal involved a selection process that 0:08:52.010 --> 0:08:56.760 was corrupted by politics, Labor's infrastructure grants program seemed to 0:08:56.800 --> 0:09:00.740 have no process at all except to curry political favour. 0:09:01.260 --> 0:09:05.829 Sports rots was pork barrelling by deception. This is pork 0:09:05.890 --> 0:09:07.170 barrelling by design. 0:09:08.710 --> 0:09:12.550 Unbelievable, right? Now, remember, all of this comes from a report. 0:09:12.570 --> 0:09:16.729 The report was one that showed us very clearly here, 0:09:16.770 --> 0:09:20.010 and this one, of course, again, came from that Centre 0:09:20.030 --> 0:09:22.990 for Public Integrity, and it showed here $ 400 billion compared 0:09:23.010 --> 0:09:26.130 to $ 128 million. It all ended up going where the 0:09:26.150 --> 0:09:32.010 government wanted it to go. Now, the Prime Minister is cock-a-hoop. 0:09:32.030 --> 0:09:33.950 There's nothing to see here. Don't worry about the Marrickville 0:09:33.970 --> 0:09:37.339 golf course. I'm going to argue, you know, the wording 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:39.560 of your question. The point is it's dodgy. And when 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:41.739 apparently it was so dodgy that Liberal ministers had to 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:43.559 go and we had to change the government, what the 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:46.760 hell's going on here? You just saw it. But Helen Haynes, 0:09:47.340 --> 0:09:50.900 hardcore lefty. We would disagree on many things. But tonight, 0:09:51.300 --> 0:09:52.410 I'm going to get her on because I want to 0:09:52.450 --> 0:09:54.530 talk about how do we change this system? How do 0:09:54.570 --> 0:09:57.470 we fix this system? Because she has walked up and 0:09:57.490 --> 0:09:59.809 put the black eye right on the Prime Minister's face 0:09:59.830 --> 0:10:01.800 and he is trying to ignore it. So I'm not 0:10:01.820 --> 0:10:04.699 going to ignore her, despite how much we probably won't 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:06.179 agree on much else. But we'll have a chat to 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:09.560 Helen Haynes in a couple of minutes' time. Now, I 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:14.980 have tried to avoid, for the obvious reasons, the back 0:10:15.020 --> 0:10:18.950 and forth between Andrew Hastie and Pauline Hanson. You know 0:10:18.970 --> 0:10:22.100 what it's about. You know why it is happening. You 0:10:22.140 --> 0:10:27.780 know why it is political life and death. You will 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:32.080 have also noticed that the senator from Tasmania, who doesn't 0:10:32.140 --> 0:10:34.949 like that Pauline Hanson has been able to create a 0:10:35.010 --> 0:10:37.709 national movement, because remember the Jackie Lambie network was supposed 0:10:37.750 --> 0:10:42.010 to be the national network, yet instead it only had 0:10:42.190 --> 0:10:45.950 one extra MP. That MP, of course, left and became 0:10:45.990 --> 0:10:49.400 a member of the Labor Party. The Jackie Lambie network 0:10:49.540 --> 0:10:53.679 in Tasmania literally said at an election that they were 0:10:53.740 --> 0:10:58.600 running with no policies. So the Jackie Lambie political model, 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:01.620 generally speaking, is to turn around, have somebody else come 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:03.710 up with an idea and then wait to see the 0:11:03.750 --> 0:11:05.900 reaction and go, oh, I'm going to champion all the 0:11:05.950 --> 0:11:08.010 people who hate. It's a brilliant, it'll keep her in 0:11:08.030 --> 0:11:12.590 the parliament for a long time. But she's decided, well, 0:11:12.650 --> 0:11:16.160 to kill two birds with one stone. One, which is 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:18.880 a stand-up for Andrew Hastie because of his military service, 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:22.449 something that I admire and something that if you really 0:11:22.510 --> 0:11:26.130 remember the history of this program, I was very loud 0:11:26.170 --> 0:11:30.650 in defending Andrew Hastie because remember the disgraceful allegations that 0:11:30.690 --> 0:11:34.540 were being peddled around by the age from memory at 0:11:34.580 --> 0:11:39.100 the time about actions on the battlefield? I knew them 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:45.020 to be BS and we defended staunchly. Andrew Hastie, as 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:46.640 the right person to go into the parliament, and now 0:11:46.660 --> 0:11:50.329 he has gone into the parliament. But Jackie Lambie can 0:11:50.390 --> 0:11:52.790 send some sort of blood in the water here, be 0:11:52.809 --> 0:11:55.270 it what she thinks is Pauline Hanson's, because they won't 0:11:55.309 --> 0:12:00.429 take down the cartoon, or maybe Angus Taylor's, because Hastie's 0:12:00.450 --> 0:12:07.010 the next leader. Anybody that hides behind a cartoon and 0:12:07.050 --> 0:12:09.380 goes after a veteran and calls them a traitor, a 0:12:09.420 --> 0:12:10.540 paranoid traitor and. 0:12:10.460 --> 0:12:12.020 A washed-up gutless maggot. 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:14.900 I have to say you're a bloody maggot yourself and 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:15.710 you're a coward. 0:12:16.070 --> 0:12:16.990 And Hasty's right. 0:12:17.330 --> 0:12:21.890 Call her out because she's a bloody coward. Okay. Now, 0:12:21.929 --> 0:12:25.069 as I've said before, the one thing, above everything else 0:12:25.110 --> 0:12:29.000 that I do admire about Jackie Lambie and her ability 0:12:29.100 --> 0:12:32.679 to be appropriately outraged just at the crest of the wave. 0:12:33.220 --> 0:12:35.720 She's never responsible for the idea, but she's the one 0:12:35.740 --> 0:12:37.920 at the crest of the wave, just the most angry 0:12:37.980 --> 0:12:38.939 on the day, right? 0:12:41.050 --> 0:12:41.270 Is that. 0:12:42.170 --> 0:12:43.930 She is always standing up for veterans, and I have 0:12:44.050 --> 0:12:46.170 no problem with that whatsoever. And while she'll be throwing 0:12:46.190 --> 0:12:48.250 something at the television, if she's watching anything now or 0:12:48.270 --> 0:12:51.620 when she watches the video a little bit later, can 0:12:51.660 --> 0:12:55.600 I just say to Jackie Lambie, I admired your rage 0:12:55.800 --> 0:13:00.720 when it was about something a little more important. I 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:03.640 loved your rage about trying to get rid of the 0:13:03.700 --> 0:13:08.850 cap on veterans' allied health. Remember the speeches in the parliament? 0:13:08.870 --> 0:13:15.310 She's never going to stop. arrogantalbo.com.au. She's got the ability 0:13:15.350 --> 0:13:17.730 to maintain the rage. I would love her to maintain 0:13:17.770 --> 0:13:21.610 the rage about something that will help tens of thousands 0:13:22.190 --> 0:13:27.020 of veterans, tens of thousands of veterans. We stand with 0:13:27.059 --> 0:13:31.240 them in their fight with the government. And Senator Lambie, 0:13:31.260 --> 0:13:34.199 you're on the inside. Fight for them as loudly as 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:36.329 you have in the past, as quietly as you may 0:13:36.370 --> 0:13:41.410 behind the scenes, but you thunder each and every day Because, again, 0:13:41.510 --> 0:13:45.490 the internal fights in and around Andrew Hastie, normal people 0:13:45.530 --> 0:13:51.530 don't care. But a little warning about what I think 0:13:52.010 --> 0:13:57.910 might also be going on here. So Andrew Hastie, very obviously, 0:13:58.090 --> 0:14:00.569 is the most obvious next in line when it comes 0:14:00.610 --> 0:14:03.250 to being the leader of the Liberal Party. Whether he 0:14:03.290 --> 0:14:04.990 gets there before the election or not, we'll all wait 0:14:05.010 --> 0:14:07.410 and see together, right? The polls are the polls. He's 0:14:07.429 --> 0:14:09.569 got to convince his colleagues, fine, fair enough, right? That's 0:14:09.590 --> 0:14:12.030 the way it goes. But there's a lot of people 0:14:12.050 --> 0:14:15.650 in the media, and always beware the lefty media, who 0:14:15.670 --> 0:14:19.700 start to champion one Liberal above all else, that this 0:14:19.780 --> 0:14:22.580 is the obvious and absolute and you bet your leader, 0:14:23.380 --> 0:14:25.220 and I'm talking about the type of media who always 0:14:25.260 --> 0:14:28.490 hates the Liberal Party. You know, like nasty Nicky Savva, 0:14:28.500 --> 0:14:32.830 the self-admitted liar. Feel free to Google it. It's all there. Well, she, 0:14:32.850 --> 0:14:34.790 of course, is sort of pumping up the tyres. Like, 0:14:34.810 --> 0:14:37.890 this is the next leader, the good idea, the next 0:14:37.930 --> 0:14:40.660 good idea. You know, they always, the Canberra media, run 0:14:40.700 --> 0:14:44.600 on this idea that there's some Liberal leader who's just, 0:14:44.660 --> 0:14:47.420 you know, one step back from the current Liberal leader 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.460 who's like the perfect Liberal leader, the one Liberal leader 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.110 that will get them to not vote Green, not vote 0:14:53.170 --> 0:14:55.910 Labor or not shiv the libs at every chance they get. 0:14:56.190 --> 0:15:00.910 But guess what? Every time that person ascends to the leadership, 0:15:01.750 --> 0:15:07.930 They disappoint the lefties. Because guess what? The Liberal Party 0:15:08.130 --> 0:15:10.750 is not a left-wing political party. There might be a 0:15:10.790 --> 0:15:14.770 lefty faction in it, but it is a centre-right political party. 0:15:15.610 --> 0:15:17.490 And if they think that they've got Goldilocks and Andrew 0:15:17.530 --> 0:15:20.430 Hastie as potentially the second coming of a leather jacket, 0:15:21.630 --> 0:15:24.580 you know he says this about net zero, right, Nicky? 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:28.280 The truth is that Labor's net zero is a massive... 0:15:28.490 --> 0:15:31.630 Giant green tax on the Australian people. It's a tax 0:15:31.690 --> 0:15:34.430 on families. It's a tax on small businesses. And it's 0:15:34.470 --> 0:15:36.350 a tax on heavy industry. And if we're ever going 0:15:36.370 --> 0:15:39.190 to get advanced manufacturing going again in this country, we 0:15:39.210 --> 0:15:42.170 need to axe Labor's net zero tax. 0:15:43.370 --> 0:15:45.770 And this about immigration, Nicky. 0:15:46.970 --> 0:15:49.480 And then, of course, we're going to cut immigration because 0:15:49.510 --> 0:15:52.600 we think net overseas migration should be pegged to housing completions. 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:55.980 So I'm not getting into the fight. I'm not picking 0:15:56.020 --> 0:16:01.220 a side. between Hastie and Hanson. I'm saying people like 0:16:01.260 --> 0:16:04.200 Jackie Lambie who were taking, there's something else going on there. 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:09.060 But again, just a word of warning, when the media 0:16:09.100 --> 0:16:11.380 is surrounding a Liberal and saying, you might be the 0:16:11.500 --> 0:16:15.490 one to unpick the lock, guess what? It never unlocks. 0:16:15.930 --> 0:16:18.990 It never unlocks. Instead, it turns around and always, always 0:16:19.890 --> 0:16:25.860 bites you on the bum. Now, to Victoria, November cannot 0:16:25.900 --> 0:16:28.970 come soon enough. There is a desperate need for the 0:16:29.010 --> 0:16:34.130 state to change tack, desperately, right? And we know that 0:16:34.190 --> 0:16:38.020 there is a million reasons for it, but for me, 0:16:38.060 --> 0:16:40.660 the single biggest one is that the state has fallen 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:44.740 into a morass of grey corruption. That's not me making 0:16:44.780 --> 0:16:47.810 it up. That, of course, was what the former ombudsman 0:16:47.850 --> 0:16:50.910 had said, when essentially the difference between the public service 0:16:50.950 --> 0:16:53.970 and the political party, it all sort of becomes nothing. 0:16:54.430 --> 0:16:56.790 It all becomes the same thing. Everyone is in service 0:16:56.830 --> 0:16:59.500 of the party and you don't end up as a 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:01.960 free place anymore. You end up as sort of some 0:17:02.380 --> 0:17:08.260 mini CCP, which I'm sure Daniel Andrews is more than 0:17:08.300 --> 0:17:13.220 happy to replicate. But there are a couple of organisations 0:17:13.330 --> 0:17:18.360 like the Broadbase Corruption Commission, IBAC, or the ombudsman who 0:17:18.420 --> 0:17:21.240 every now and then drop a report, like the one 0:17:21.260 --> 0:17:24.159 that exposed that Ben Carroll, you know, the Premier who's 0:17:24.300 --> 0:17:28.720 absolutely different than everyone he's ever worked for or ever 0:17:28.850 --> 0:17:31.850 sucked up to or ever done the job for. I'm 0:17:31.890 --> 0:17:35.290 definitely not Jacinda Ardern. I'm definitely not Daniel Andrews. Oh, 0:17:35.330 --> 0:17:37.750 so the Auditor-General says you came up with a tax 0:17:37.770 --> 0:17:39.669 that you didn't tell everyone about. Oh, I'm going to, 0:17:39.730 --> 0:17:40.940 I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to. 0:17:40.930 --> 0:17:41.520 We're getting rid of it. 0:17:41.540 --> 0:17:42.700 Please vote for me. I'm different. 0:17:42.940 --> 0:17:43.419 I'm different. 0:17:45.580 --> 0:17:47.820 So there is pressure on the Victorian government with what 0:17:47.900 --> 0:17:49.820 little time they either have in office or before the 0:17:49.859 --> 0:17:52.640 election where they may well go round again. Anything's possible. 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:55.760 Nothing is inevitable. Nothing is inevitable. On this program, no-one 0:17:55.780 --> 0:17:59.460 wakes up surprised, all right? Everything is possible, including a 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:02.920 return of a terrible government. It was new legislation to, 0:18:03.030 --> 0:18:08.630 guess what, give more power, more focus to these agencies. Because, 0:18:08.670 --> 0:18:11.330 as we've told you before, the state budget actually took 0:18:11.450 --> 0:18:19.290 money off the integrity organisations. But guess what? None of 0:18:19.350 --> 0:18:23.810 the changes are going to be retrospective, meaning Alan, Andrews, 0:18:24.170 --> 0:18:31.280 all the ministers with the Sergeant Schultz, I know nothing, defence. Well, 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:35.260 it won't apply. It's only forward-facing. What a wonderful way 0:18:35.300 --> 0:18:41.660 of pretending that the Jedi mind trick works. Well, of course, 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:43.520 they are in a position right now that if you're 0:18:43.540 --> 0:18:46.500 going to draw up new laws, then guess what? Let's 0:18:46.900 --> 0:18:51.020 increase the transparency and let's widen the scope to say, 0:18:51.060 --> 0:18:54.940 guess what? They can look back in anger, and rightly so. 0:18:54.980 --> 0:18:57.510 It's what Jess Wilson wants to happen. It's what she'll 0:18:57.530 --> 0:19:00.669 vote for, even if it means she doesn't get to 0:19:00.710 --> 0:19:03.969 take that clobbering stick to a state election. Here she is. 0:19:05.270 --> 0:19:08.730 The legislation says here, in black and white, if IBAC 0:19:08.770 --> 0:19:12.090 has received a referral in the past... about a matter 0:19:12.190 --> 0:19:15.350 that it has dismissed, that it has referred on, or 0:19:15.369 --> 0:19:19.260 that it has investigated, then that referral cannot be investigated 0:19:19.340 --> 0:19:24.300 by IBAC. This is Ben Carroll's legislation. Ben Carroll approved 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:26.300 this to go to the floor of the Parliament. 0:19:26.619 --> 0:19:27.409 We will amend it. 0:19:27.740 --> 0:19:29.980 We will amend it to make it fully retrospective, and 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:32.260 I invite Ben Carroll to support our amendments to make 0:19:32.300 --> 0:19:36.200 sure that IBAC has the power to investigate the largest 0:19:36.260 --> 0:19:37.899 corruption scandal in this state's history. 0:19:39.290 --> 0:19:39.629 Correct. 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:44.729 Fingers crossed she's the next Premier of Victoria. You want 0:19:44.770 --> 0:19:47.680 somebody with that sort of energy and clarity and youth 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:52.040 and focus. A chance to reset. It is there, Victoria. 0:19:52.220 --> 0:19:55.520 It's up to you. Fingers crossed it's taken. It happens 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:57.360 in November. But till then, can they do something about 0:19:57.380 --> 0:19:59.800 the damn roads? How often do we talk about this? 0:19:59.960 --> 0:20:01.960 I don't trust government to be able to fix our 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:06.700 education system or heal the sick or to pay down 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:10.300 the debt if they can't fix a freaking pothole. Because 0:20:10.340 --> 0:20:12.300 it's the little things, right? If you can't do the 0:20:12.340 --> 0:20:14.460 little things, then how the heck am I going to 0:20:14.500 --> 0:20:17.800 trust you on the big things? Interesting stuff in the 0:20:17.900 --> 0:20:20.780 age here. Almost half of all of Victoria's roads are 0:20:20.820 --> 0:20:24.180 in poor condition. This comes from the Auditor-General's office. Again, 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:26.860 something not totally controlled by the government, hence why the 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:29.460 report could not be hidden. Almost half of the state 0:20:29.500 --> 0:20:32.020 government's managed roads are in poor or very poor condition, 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:37.659 with decline outpacing repairs. 48% of state roads were considered 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:41.340 in poor or very poor condition. That's jumping by almost 0:20:41.380 --> 0:20:46.869 a quarter from 2021. 2024 data reveals more than a 0:20:46.970 --> 0:20:49.090 third of state roads have just got five years of 0:20:49.190 --> 0:20:52.149 useful life left. To give you an idea, here's a 0:20:52.170 --> 0:20:54.110 map of Victoria. The darker the colour, the more there 0:20:54.150 --> 0:20:57.520 are potholes. Surprise, surprise. The darker they are, the further 0:20:57.560 --> 0:20:59.980 you get away from Melbourne. Geez, wonder why those people 0:21:00.260 --> 0:21:02.480 aren't going to be voting Labor. Well, they're probably going 0:21:02.500 --> 0:21:07.649 to be voting One Nation. In terms of specific areas 0:21:07.690 --> 0:21:10.530 that have got a world of problem, there are 445 0:21:10.530 --> 0:21:20.700 potholes in Toowong. Mornington Peninsula, 382. Corangamite, 305. Wangaratta, 260. 0:21:20.700 --> 0:21:22.100 And all the rest you can see on your screen 0:21:22.140 --> 0:21:26.140 right now. And even then, don't just fix the potholes. 0:21:26.180 --> 0:21:30.480 Here's an even bigger idea. Fix the freaking roads. The 0:21:30.500 --> 0:21:32.640 Herald Sun made this excellent observation today. 0:21:34.190 --> 0:21:37.850 Potholes are just a symptom. The real issue is what's 0:21:37.890 --> 0:21:41.810 hidden underneath. Many moons ago, when it came to road maintenance, 0:21:41.890 --> 0:21:47.320 Victoria prioritised road rehabilitation and road resurfacing, ripping up the 0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:51.040 road and rebuilding it before potholes even have the chance 0:21:51.140 --> 0:21:54.480 to appear. And then you add major flooding events in 0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:57.600 2022 and 2023, and things. 0:21:57.440 --> 0:21:58.899 Took a turn for the worse. 0:21:59.100 --> 0:22:01.659 The government poured heaps of funds into quickly patching up 0:22:01.700 --> 0:22:05.770 the road. Long-term maintenance was slashed and roads were left 0:22:05.890 --> 0:22:09.550 unexpected to handle heavier traffic for longer periods of time. 0:22:09.650 --> 0:22:13.169 Roads are already slightly cracking and water has the chance 0:22:13.270 --> 0:22:17.280 to seep down into the foundations, weakening the base of 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:17.740 the road. 0:22:17.940 --> 0:22:18.920 So when heavy. 0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:22.740 Cars and trucks now drive over, the road literally collapses 0:22:22.820 --> 0:22:24.899 in on itself, causing what we. 0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:26.419 Like to call a pothole. 0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:31.010 I love when, there's not enough explainers on the internet. 0:22:31.170 --> 0:22:34.030 I love that stuff. Well done to the Herald Sun. Now, 0:22:34.630 --> 0:22:37.510 Donald Trump, as you know, every four years, presidential election, 0:22:37.630 --> 0:22:40.619 every four years, the party puts on a giant convention. 0:22:40.950 --> 0:22:44.200 It is a guaranteed way of being given at least 0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:47.280 an hour of primetime TV for multiple days in a row. 0:22:47.859 --> 0:22:51.240 Trump's been very successful with these, of course, in 2016, 0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:53.960 obviously not 2020, and then again a couple of days 0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:58.040 after he'd been shot at in 2024. So the midterms 0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:00.960 are coming up. This is where the Republicans who are 0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:03.159 in charge of the Senate that picks all of the 0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:05.510 people and approves the ones to be in his cabinet, 0:23:05.609 --> 0:23:09.590 or the judges, could go from being Republican-controlled to Democrat-controlled, 0:23:10.030 --> 0:23:15.360 or the House, which impeaches presidents, doesn't get them pushed 0:23:15.380 --> 0:23:16.980 out of office, that needs to happen at a trial 0:23:17.020 --> 0:23:19.040 in the Senate, but essentially the main power. 0:23:20.780 --> 0:23:23.659 Of the lower house of Congress is firstly, it can 0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:26.560 stop anything passing through the system because if you lose 0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:28.680 any one of those three, you're in a world of trouble. 0:23:29.480 --> 0:23:32.190 So November is a high stakes game. So Donald Trump 0:23:32.350 --> 0:23:35.810 has had a midterms convention. Nobody's ever done this before 0:23:36.070 --> 0:23:37.250 in the hope that he would be able to get, 0:23:37.310 --> 0:23:39.869 you know, guaranteed one hour of free airtime everywhere. He 0:23:39.910 --> 0:23:42.189 didn't get it. He got cable news coverage and he 0:23:42.210 --> 0:23:45.980 turned up with a very big and definitely not stimulatory promise. 0:23:46.619 --> 0:23:50.530 Now we talk about pork barreling here. This could be 0:23:50.650 --> 0:23:51.610 the whole farm. 0:23:52.970 --> 0:23:56.460 If the Republicans win the House of Representatives and the 0:23:56.520 --> 0:24:00.560 United States Senate, I will issue a dividend to every 0:24:00.660 --> 0:24:08.320 adult citizen in the United States of America for $ 5, 000. $ 5, 000. 0:24:06.130 --> 0:24:11.700 For each and every... Don't. Albo, we can see you. 0:24:11.690 --> 0:24:17.450 $ 5, 000. 0:24:13.130 --> 0:24:16.659 For each and every voter... Why is this happening? Because 0:24:16.700 --> 0:24:18.800