1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: Boxing Day, Black Friday Supercoach preseason. Everyone loves a bargain, 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: especially here on the official Supercoach AFL show, and there 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: are more bargains in Supercoach twenty twenty five than you 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: can poke a stick at. We discussed a bunch of 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: them a few days ago on our Mid Price Madness show. 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: Go back and listen to that one if you missed it. That, 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: of course, is anywhere you listen to your podcast, plus 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: the Code Sports channel on YouTube you get all your 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: Supercoach content. This season, we had to draw the line 10 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: there somewhere for mid prices, and that was at three 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars, but the potential game changes that don't 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: stop there. With a surprising list of experienced players available 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: in the real bargain bin under three hundred k, and 14 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: today we'll sort through those names and find the players 15 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: who are viable options for our twenty twenty five super 16 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: Coach teams. I'm your host, Al Paydon, and with me 17 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 1: again is dos doscret to have you back with us 18 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: to talk more Supercoach value. 19 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, can you get stuck in? Probably not as big 20 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: big a pool we've got to pick from as we 21 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: did in the mid Price Madness episode just the other day, 22 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: But still keen to find those value picks that really 23 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: could be some of the winning picks this year if 24 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: we get it right. 25 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: And Dan Banden joining us for the first time in 26 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: this new Supercoach year. Dan, we know you're a real 27 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 1: rookie guru, but this might be stretching your talents somewhat. 28 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: Hopefully you've got some good names for us. 29 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've actually been a little bit out of the 30 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 3: super Coach loop so far this season. We're focusing on 31 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 3: super Coach BBO, which has been the band of my existence, 32 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: all those laid outs and things. But looking forward to 33 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: jumping on and hopefully we can find a few value 34 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 3: picks for those listening. 35 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 4: And joining us. 36 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: Today's special guests a longtime friend of the show, host 37 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: of the Footy Mailbag podcast, Damo, Welcome aboard, and looking 38 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: at that jumper in the background, Free, I might have 39 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: a couple of juicy little bargains for us when we 40 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: get to those during the show. 41 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, they might do. Thanks for having me, guys. Yeah, 42 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 5: some nice cheap guys to have a look at in 43 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 5: this episode. 44 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 4: Hopefully absolutely so. 45 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: The format here will be similar to what we did 46 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: for our mid pressure a bit of a draft, going 47 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: around the room calling out names that we want to discuss. Now, 48 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: as I said, this isn't really about rookies as such, 49 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: but I thought off the top, we might mention a 50 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: few names potentially who are sort of older rookies that 51 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:18,839 Speaker 1: have been around for a few years. But we haven't 52 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: really seen much of them, and they're still in that 53 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: very very cheap bracket, so they won't be the main 54 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 1: content of the show, but we'll mention a few names. 55 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 4: And I mean, Dan, this is really your wheelhouse. 56 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: So is there anybody there that you think could be 57 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: a real option for us this season? 58 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 3: I think the big one is probably Josh kibkis Penny 59 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 3: on his injury. He's been a rookie for us before 60 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 3: and made a heap of cash and obviously a lot 61 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 3: of us jumped on last year, and you know, we 62 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 3: made the feel of pain when he suffered that injury 63 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: so so early into the season. But if he Getty's 64 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: body right, I think there's can be a lot of 65 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 3: footy down there for the Tigers. 66 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 6: So and he's intercep King, so I like him. 67 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 3: He's still at a really good price at one fifty 68 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 3: three K and he made about one hundred and fifty 69 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 3: cah on his starting price a few years ago when 70 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 3: he was a rookie, so he's dead. 71 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 6: Definitely one to consider. 72 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: I've been down at Gelong training a bit for my 73 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 3: role at a Geelong Advertiser and Mitch Never is looking good. 74 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 3: I think he pumped out about a two hundred and 75 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 3: ten score and in the last VFL game of the 76 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 3: season he's at one hundred and forty nine K. As 77 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 3: a midfielder, he's you know, even Dansfield said during the 78 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 3: preseason at the beginning of the preseason sort of tipped 79 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: him to be a part of that midfield group. To 80 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 3: start the season. He was playing more inside than outside 81 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 3: in the VFL. So he's another to look at. Zach Reid. 82 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: He's one who's just a perennial rookie, isn't he. You know, 83 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: he's made a paper but you know, at that price, 84 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: if he is playing, you'd think surely if he's fit, 85 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: he's playing in that essenonce side. Another bomber as well, 86 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: in a Lijah status was an absolutely ball magnet at 87 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: junior level and a VFL level as well. Just whether 88 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: he gets that midfield role. That's probably the only question 89 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: mark because he can certainly find the footy and Neil 90 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: Erasmus as well from the Dockers one of Demo's men 91 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: over there Ford midfielder and at a pretty good price 92 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: as well. Just be whether it can squeeze into that 93 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: pretty stacked free O midfield. 94 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to throw it to Demo on 95 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: that one. I mean, he's been putting up some big 96 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: numbers in the Waffle. I know the Phantom is a 97 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: big fan, but yeah, can you see a spot for 98 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: him in the best twenty three or twenty two of 99 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: the Dockers. 100 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 5: Well, with Fife and Walters going under the knife to 101 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 5: fix up, to fix up their knees, maybe he might 102 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 5: get a role to start the season and be a 103 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 5: good moneymaker over the first six or seven weeks and 104 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 5: someone we can jump off pretty quickly, but someone we 105 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 5: can start with to get a nice runner scores from. 106 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: And yes, Dan mentioned the fact that he's a forward 107 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: mid two. That helps because we need some players for 108 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: our forward benches. Another one in that category dos over 109 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: in the Eagles, which I know you're watching very closely, 110 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: Elijah Hewitt. How is he shaping up this prison, but 111 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: we actually get a chance to see how good the 112 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: Eagles think he can be. 113 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: Well, I hope so yeah, I think from you know, 114 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 2: I haven't seen too much yet coming out of Eagles, 115 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 2: but I think, yeah, if we get a good look 116 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,239 Speaker 2: at him in the preseason, there's nothing like he should 117 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: be basically in every team I think. You know, it 118 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 2: was a highly touted pick, could play through the midfield, 119 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: even had some bursts through the midfield in his rookie year, 120 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: but then missed the entirety of last season. So he's 121 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: coming into basement price, you know, heading into that third season. 122 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: I think it's kind of a no brainer pick. If 123 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: he does, if his body does hold up in the preseason. 124 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, nice. 125 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll get now into the really interesting names, 126 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: which is going to be a bit more fun, I think, 127 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: and especially when we get to some of these late picks. 128 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: I reckon we'll be coming up with some pretty juicy ones. 129 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: But what was the draft order that we came up with? 130 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: I think I'm running last again, anyone. 131 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, the draft order we have today, which I 132 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: did sort of have to make some shuffles for a 133 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 2: few laid outs here. But Dan's coming up with the 134 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 2: number one pick. Al, you're coming second today, Oh, ok, 135 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: not too far down. Then it's me and then we've 136 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: stitched our guests up the final spot in the draft. 137 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: As we know, we're not doing a snake draft. This 138 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: isn't really a draft in terms of who you'd pick first, 139 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: who you'd pick last in this sort of positions. It's 140 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: just more your gut feel who you want to pick 141 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: and who you want to talk about in these under 142 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: three hundred k brackets. So we're not talking about it 143 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: as a draft. It's just sort of to get just 144 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: to have a bit of fun with this episode out. 145 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, so Dan over to you. We'll call it 146 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: the number one pick. 147 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:27,799 Speaker 4: You're on the clock. 148 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 3: I'm going to take a bit of a cop out 149 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 3: and it's probably going to take me about ten seconds 150 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 3: to lodge this pick in this bracket. Caleb Daniel, he's 151 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 3: priced at fifty average, which is just insane for someone 152 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 3: who's all Australian in the past, and someone who's been 153 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 3: a pretty consistent super coach scorer when he's had the role. 154 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 3: He hasn't had the role of the past couple of years. 155 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 3: Was the sub eight times last season when he got 156 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 3: absolutely bevoed, but scored ninety seven one hundred in his 157 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: last two games for the Bulldogs. And you know, even 158 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 3: his manager was saying when he got traded to North 159 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 3: Melbourne that he wanted to be happy and free and 160 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: obviously spoke about that that half back role, and yeah, 161 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 3: I think it's a nice fit there for North Melbourn. 162 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: They need someone to you know, to use the ball. Well, 163 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: they had Zack Fisher, you know, for crying out loud, 164 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 3: that's the who they turned to off half back. So 165 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: I think he's one who's going to take all those points. 166 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: You know, even mkircher does he move more into the 167 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 3: midfield in twenty twenty five, I think it's only a 168 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 3: matter of time until he does. So, Yeah, Caleb Daniels 169 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 3: just yeah, you know, throw away the key. 170 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:47,679 Speaker 6: I think. 171 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: Anyone want who think of a reason not to pick 172 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: Caleb daniel like, I haven't got any. 173 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,679 Speaker 5: Seems pretty straightforward there because average ninety three, one hundred 174 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 5: and one and ninety nine at the Dome in the 175 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 5: three seasons that he was playing that role. So even 176 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 5: if he only replicates the ninety three, that's still a 177 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 5: good selection at two sixty nine k Yeah. 178 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 6: One percent. 179 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: I mean, he's one that you could imagine being a 180 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: season long keeper for two hundred and fifty one thousand, 181 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, pretty hard to overlook that we jumped straight 182 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: to the second pick then, and I've got a few 183 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: names up must sleep, but I better go with the 184 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: guy before anybody else picks him, and that is Tom 185 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: Lynch at the Tigers one hundred and eighty three thousand, 186 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: which is an equivalent of a thirty five average, So 187 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: that's really rookie level. And you know, we've talked about 188 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: Tom a bit on some of our pods already because 189 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: obviously I'm a big fan, is a Richmond manon just 190 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: desperate to see him get back out there. He only 191 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: played four games in each of the last two seasons, 192 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: hasn't played a full season since twenty nineteen, so he's 193 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: always got those issues with his body, and that's obviously 194 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: the big red flag on him and the watchover preseason. 195 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: But touch Wood at the moment, he's looking pretty good. 196 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: Went down U Punt Road just before Christmas and he 197 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: was looking absolutely ripped. Took part in some of the 198 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: matches him was moving nicely. So you just hope he 199 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: gets through to least Round one and hopefully enough into 200 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: the season to at least make us some money. Obviously, 201 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: key forward's always a bit of a lottery, and you know, 202 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: playing key forward for Richmond is probably not going to 203 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: be the most lucrative role he could imagine. I mean, 204 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: you go back to that twenty twenty two season when 205 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: he averaged ninety four for the year, and he finished 206 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: the season with some really high scores. I think he 207 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: had a purple patch in the middle of the year 208 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: where he went one sixty seven point eighty four one 209 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: seventy seven in a three week patch. 210 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 4: So that'll be amazing, but I'm not expecting anything like that. 211 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: But if he can just grab a bag of three 212 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: or four a couple of times Spikey price, that might 213 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: be enough for us to just make a quick on 214 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: hundred hundred fifty k out of him and trade him on. 215 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, no early buy for the Tigers. They played 216 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: their first game in Round one, So if he's named 217 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: in that team, I think he's going to be in 218 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: my Super Coos team, maybe on the field or on 219 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: the bench. You could probably put him on the bench 220 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: with the emergency, but that's that's getting a bit out 221 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: of ourselves. But yeah, obviously I'm a big Tom Lynch fan. 222 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: So am I Am I just blinked by my Tiger 223 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: supporting views or is there something genuine there? 224 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 4: Does he? 225 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: I mean at his price and given you know he's 226 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 2: a veteran of the game, if he. 227 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 6: Gets on the park, he's should be value. 228 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: But I don't know if I can bring myself to 229 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: bring in a key forward at Richmond this season, So 230 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 2: I think you're guaranteed to use a trade, and if 231 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: we see an injury, which you know, unfortunately has plagued 232 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: his career late in his career, you're just going to 233 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: waste the trade. And does he even go up that 234 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: much in value, I might just start with someone that 235 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 2: is the basement type. If we do get those players 236 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 2: named round one before the game open, like when round 237 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: one begins, I might be tempted to just save that cash. 238 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: And you know, if he's going ballistic in the first couple, 239 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: I might be happy to trade, say a failed mid 240 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: price it down to a Tom Lynch rather than to 241 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: start with him personally. But you know, you talk about 242 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: his history and he should be under price based on that. 243 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: But I think I'd be happy starting with someone a 244 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 2: little bit cheaper and banking, say sixty K to spend 245 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 2: elsewhere to start the season. 246 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an interesting point whether you could afford to 247 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: just watch him for a couple of weeks. His price 248 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: isn't going to move, and then yeah, if you feel 249 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: like there is something there that you need, that you 250 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: can maybe move a few deck chairs and try and 251 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: get him in. Although that price might be a little 252 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: bit awkward, but yeah, given that he is the risk 253 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: that comes with him, that probably is a sensible way 254 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: to attack it. 255 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 4: But Danny, do you like Tom Lynch and who you 256 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 4: got for us with your pick? He already done. 257 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 3: I've already picked out. It's not Richmond at the draft. 258 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 3: I don't know every pick in the top ten, but 259 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 3: I don't know about Lynch. But I think I was 260 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 3: one of the ones who didn't pick Joey Danaher when 261 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 3: he was cut price, and yeah, I was really made 262 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 3: to pay out. I sort of had that attitude of oh, ja, 263 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 3: he's a key forward. 264 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 6: He could really stink it up. 265 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 3: But I think even Charlie Kerno as well that year 266 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 3: I passed on him, And yeah, he ended up firing 267 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 3: not so much at the start of the season but 268 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: ended up, you know, making a fair bit of cash. 269 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 3: So yeah, the I he's on the park, Yeah, he'll 270 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 3: definitely be in calculation. But I think the other thing 271 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 3: as well is there's just so much value in the 272 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 3: forward line, and so you know, it's type for spots, 273 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 3: so he's probably going to need to be showing a 274 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 3: bit in the preseason to justify it's selecting him, especially if. 275 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 6: There's a few rookies, cheaper rookies around as well. 276 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 277 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, for your point, I think Oscar Allen's another one 278 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: who's shown that key forwards can be money makers, but 279 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: you sort of have to ride the roller coaster a 280 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: bit with him. 281 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 4: Now we'll get to demo. Sorry, but that I've marked 282 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 4: the order already, so I'm terrible at this. 283 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: Whoever's pick it's supposed to be, now feel free to 284 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: jump in. 285 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: I'll jump in because I really like this sky and 286 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 2: we did stitch up demo, so I'm hoping that this 287 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: wasn't your first pick. Demos did stitch up, but my 288 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: man Taylor made for a second year breakout ari Show 289 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: and Maker at two one hundred and seventy five hundred dollars. 290 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: Haven't heard his name too much this preseason, but only 291 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 2: played the four games last year average sixty four super 292 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: coach points. We still saw some impressive highlights though, with 293 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 2: that booming left peg and elite disposal. The thing that 294 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 2: I really like about him this year, there's no Josh Battle, 295 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 2: he's off to the Hawks. There's no Riley Bonner who 296 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: was delisted. That's twenty three games and nineteen games from 297 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 2: their defense gone this season. Ari's going to come in 298 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 2: there and mop up all that. All those possessions took 299 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: kickins last year, even with guys like Jack Sinclair and 300 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 2: Asia Wanganeen Miller in the side, had a massive kick 301 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: to handball ratio in those in those four games, four 302 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 2: point twenty seven kick to handball ratio in the AFL 303 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 2: That was twelfth overall of all players, and among defenders 304 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: the guys above him was only people like Luke Ryan, 305 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 2: Steven May and Econo McKenna randomly as well in there. 306 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: But for me, you know, last year, this time last year, 307 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 2: he was doing conditioning blocks in January February last year 308 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: to get up to AFL standard and was even made 309 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 2: to do some VFL training at this time last year. 310 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 2: So from what we've seen he's training with the main team. 311 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: He's my man for a big, big breakout in year two. 312 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 2: And at two hundred and seventy k you know you 313 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: can just slot him in defense. Got a great buy 314 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 2: as well, had some massive NFL numbers, so Ari shall 315 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 2: make it. I'm big on in this price bracket. 316 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 3: I did own him late last year and he is 317 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 3: very fun to own because every time he kicks it, 318 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 3: it's always fifty five to a contest, and he did 319 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 3: have a couple of bigger games. The one I guess 320 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 3: counterpoint is Toby Trevalia coming in. Does he take those points? 321 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 3: Does he take the role? 322 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 6: Yeah? 323 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 3: If I think Ari his kicking is a huge plus 324 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 3: because he can kick it sixty on a bad day 325 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 3: and really, you know, with his penetrating kick really set 326 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 3: it up for defense. But yeah, it would be interesting 327 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 3: to see if his role, if he is a lock 328 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 3: in there and if he is that number one distributor 329 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 3: from the Saints defense. 330 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: Yep, No, he's a good pill. I don't know if 331 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: he quite fits the criteria for this is his second 332 00:14:59,400 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: year rookie. 333 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 6: I'm really bus loessingay though, that's smoky. I reckon that 334 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 6: call off that counts. 335 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: Let it do, Damo, we've finally get to you who 336 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: we haven't taken all the guys you had in mind. 337 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 5: No, luckily not. I'm I'm looking at Tom Dude at 338 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 5: two hundred and fifty six K, so he's priced at 339 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 5: forty nine. He averaged seventies and eighties at the Crows, 340 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 5: but in twenty twenty one he finished with an eighty 341 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 5: five point four average for the year. But first nine 342 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 5: games average ninety two point three and then the last 343 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 5: five games average ninety point two. And we know what 344 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 5: the Crows. They didn't always have the most conventional key 345 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 5: defender setup, so when he had his low games, that's 346 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 5: probably when he had to be stationed back in a 347 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 5: lockdown role. But now is at Brisbane obviously a year 348 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 5: out of the system with the ACL but I don't 349 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 5: think he plays too much lockdown with Stacevich, Payne and 350 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 5: Andrews all down there, and his high ceiling games came 351 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 5: when he was able to roam up to the wing 352 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 5: and go across half back and intercept and distribute a 353 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 5: bit more. So two fifty six K, even if he 354 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 5: only gets up to his eighties average, he's still going 355 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 5: to make a bit of money for us. 356 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I must have been when I looked up isn't 357 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: them as I was a bit surprised by some of 358 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: those eighties and scores and above that which I thought 359 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: he was a real lockdown, fullback kind of guy. But 360 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: yet obviously he has the potential to score a bit. 361 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: But hasn't been much news around him over the summer. 362 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: Do we know if he's how he's tracking on that 363 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: sort of injury comeback. 364 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 5: I don't think it was a like a full tear 365 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 5: that he did of his ACL when he did it, 366 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 5: so I don't think they were worried about him being 367 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 5: out for any proportion of this season. But I don't 368 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 5: know if he's in full training yet. But we saw 369 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 5: how good Will Ashcroft was after his recovery, so we 370 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 5: know that Brisbane know the you know, the steps to 371 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 5: make their players return in the best possible condition. 372 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely want to put on the radar. So 373 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: I think now we background to it is your turn again. 374 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: Dan's right, as you say, with the Tigs, that's but yeah, 375 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 1: we got got another name we can put on our 376 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: watch list. 377 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going another line. I'm surprised is sid this far? 378 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 3: What an absolute slide. Are Kitty Coleman at two sixty 379 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 3: nine K a little bit out of sight, out of mind, 380 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 3: but at that price, it's it's hard to miss him 381 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 3: when you're scrolling down the list trying to look at 382 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 3: defender options to seventy K. Obviously suffered that that acl 383 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 3: in in the first round of last season, but you 384 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 3: look at you know what sticks in my mind is 385 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 3: that twenty twenty three Final Series. He pumped out of 386 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 3: one twenty seven in the prelium against the Blues and 387 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 3: then it was pretty much best on ground in the 388 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 3: first half of that Grand Final against Collingwood with a 389 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 3: he had twenty six disposals, six tackles, eight marks, seven 390 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 3: rebound fifties, one hundred twenty seven super Coach points again, 391 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 3: so that's back to back one twenty sevens from his 392 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 3: last three, last two completed games, and you think that 393 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 3: he's got a pretty. 394 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 6: Defined role there for the Lions. 395 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think he's quite a good pick there 396 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 3: in defense with there's obviously a few other options like 397 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 3: Callum Mills and think that sort of cheaper sort of 398 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 3: a price range, but yeah, I think he's probably going 399 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 3: to be in my team. I would have thought, and 400 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 3: you're I guess the one question mark maybe is does 401 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 3: he take kick ins? But you know, I'm probably getting 402 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 3: Kitty Calemen to take kick ins over maybe a Conor 403 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 3: McKenna race back does Yeah, he might be. It might 404 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 3: be a bit of a race there back to the 405 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 3: and yeah, hopefully doesn't run too fast and to do 406 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 3: his acl again. But yeah, that's probably the only real 407 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 3: question mark. So it'll be interesting to see where he 408 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 3: slots him. But yeah, it's great, a great price. 409 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: Dam how much are you thinking about the fixture at 410 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: this stage when we were already talking about it colem 411 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: when maybe a DWO day and then you know, Colla Mills, 412 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: these guys and they all have a bye in round three? 413 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 4: Is that something we should be panicking about in early January? 414 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 5: I mean, keep it in the back of your minds. 415 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 5: But it's it's it's only just the team pick he 416 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 5: just play around, find the players you like. But yeah, 417 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 5: Kitty Colbert, like two months ago, he was in a 418 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 5: lot of teams at three ninety eight K and now 419 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 5: two sixty nine K, so he should be just as popular. 420 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 5: Finished twenty twenty three with an average of ninety four 421 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 5: point nine if you include the finals, so I mean 422 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 5: over the last ten games, I mean so I see 423 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 5: no reason why people shouldn't pick him. 424 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 6: And even in that game. 425 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 5: That he tore his ACL in, he scored thirty seven 426 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 5: in forty four percent game time, which is a pretty 427 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 5: good points per minute. So yeah, he should be pretty 428 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 5: popular this this this year at two sixty nine K. 429 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's another one will obviously be watching pretty close 430 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: over preseason to see how he's tracking on the comeback 431 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: from that ACL. So if I am looking at things rightly, 432 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: I think I have the next pick, and I'm going 433 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: with a crow in Isaac Cumming, former Giant who I 434 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: have picked in Super Coach in the past, price at 435 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: just fifty three average this year two hundred and eighty 436 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: seven K, after really sort of falling off the raidar 437 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: for the last couple of years. He averaged ninety two 438 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty one and ninety four in twenty 439 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: twenty two, to think I must have picked him in 440 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: one of those years, But in twenty twenty three that 441 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: fell to sixty nine, and then he only played four 442 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: games last year, although he did come back in for 443 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: the finals and scored sixty four and one oh three, 444 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: so sort of pricks up your attention, and then he 445 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: moves over to the Crows, where you think, obviously they've 446 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: got an idea if they want to play him for start, 447 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: which that's an immediate boost. I guess the big issue 448 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: is going to be weird does he fit into that 449 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: Crows team and if he's in the back line taking 450 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: kick ins, which is something he's done in the past, 451 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: I think that is, you know what I really want 452 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: to see. He only took one kick in for the 453 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: whole of last year and he didn't play on from it. 454 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: But if you go back to twenty twenty one, he 455 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: took one hundred and forty and played on from seventy 456 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: seven percent. In twenty twenty two he too one hundred 457 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: and twenty nine kicks and played on from ninety percent. 458 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: So no convincedence. That's when he was scoring really well. 459 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: So for me, it's just a really close watch in 460 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: the preseason to see exactly where he's playing. I think 461 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: he's had a bit of a hamstring niggle already, which 462 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: is a little bit of a setback, which is something 463 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: that he's had some problems with, so that's not ideal, 464 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: but you'd want to get him back in, you know, 465 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: for at least for those preseason games and get a 466 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: good look at him. 467 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 4: But at that price, he's another one. 468 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about James Peeling the other day, 469 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: you know, could you potentially pick both of them? But yeah, 470 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: another real serious option there in the midfield. I think it, 471 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: you know, just the under three hundred k price range. 472 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, just the injury concern early, it's just it's it's 473 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 2: something that, yeah, unfortunately, must be talked about. But do 474 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 2: you really I guess I'll throw it a damo. Do 475 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: you see him getting back to those GWS ways or 476 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 2: do you do you think sort of the game has 477 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 2: sort of sped up a fair bit seen he was 478 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: doing those big numbers, taking lots of kick ins. Do 479 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 2: you think he can still have a big enough impact 480 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 2: to Obviously he's dirt cheap, so you know, you'd expect 481 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 2: him to go up a little a fair bit regardless, 482 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 2: But as a midfield slot, you kind of it's pretty 483 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 2: valuable slot to be using on eyesat coming. 484 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was going to say, I love everything about 485 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 5: the selection apart from the fact that he's a mid 486 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 5: only it's an awkward price to having your midfield, especially 487 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 5: with all the other value in there. So like if 488 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 5: it was a defender, I reckon he would be rivaling 489 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 5: you know, the likes of you Kittie Coleman's and you 490 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 5: Callum Mills' selection in the back line. But as a midfielder, 491 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 5: is he really worth using one of your midfield spots 492 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 5: for him, especially when you've got the likes of James 493 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 5: Petling as well, that's about eighty k more. That's probably 494 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 5: going to be a little bit more fruitful, a bit 495 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 5: more of a fruitful selection for you. So yeah, I'm 496 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 5: not sure. I mean, he might get to his mid 497 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 5: nineties average again playing that half back role, you know, 498 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 5: basically emulating Brodie Smith has done. But is that enough 499 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 5: for you to select him in your midfield. 500 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 3: I don't. 501 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 5: I don't know yet. 502 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, a fair question. 503 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: I mean I think he's a definite candidate to get 504 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: DPP maybe at round six, whether that helps it all 505 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: sort of, And we'd pick a few of us picked 506 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 1: Nick Martin last year under that theory that at that 507 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: time he could swing him back to the back line. 508 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's hard when there's only so many slots 509 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: to go in the midfield. And we have as Dan 510 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: keeps telling us all these amazing rookies that we want 511 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: to pick in there as well, he might score well 512 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: for you know, fifty or hundred k cheaper than coming. 513 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, he's He's definitely not a lock, but yeah, 514 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: definitely someone I like the look of and as I said, 515 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: I have picked him in the past and he's been 516 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: good to me, so I'm keen to see how he 517 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: goes over. 518 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 4: At the Crows. 519 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 6: Does he take the kick ins you reckon the Crows? 520 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good question. I mean again, yeah, we 521 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 4: just have to watch and see. 522 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: I don't think they had a real obvious designated kick 523 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: in taker last year, so that's potentially open. But he 524 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: has also been known to sort of slide up onto 525 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: a wing, and you know, we definitely don't want him 526 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: doing that. So yeah, we'll see what the role looks 527 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: like when he starts seeing some some intro clubs and 528 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: mutual practice matches. 529 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 6: Mark, Yeah, that's right. I was going to say. 530 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 2: Huge were the two kicking leaders at Adelaide. So yeah, yeah, 531 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 2: if they decide that he's in that role, I think 532 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: probably we have to look a little bit closer. But 533 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 2: he's another one that I'd be happy to just wait 534 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 2: and see. I think unless he just blows our socks 535 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: off in preseason games or match him that we see 536 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: and we can see he's clearly in the role. He's 537 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 2: one that I'm not willing to give him that Riley 538 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: Bonner sort of tag. How it was just very clear 539 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 2: in the preseason. I don't know with the Isaac coming 540 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 2: at this point, but yeah, he's definitely one to watch. 541 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:41,719 Speaker 2: Shall I jump into my pick, which also surprise this 542 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 2: guy's slid so far. I think he might be one 543 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: of the most owned players in super Coach when the 544 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: game does open. But Matt Flynn two hundred and sixty 545 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: one thousand, nine hundred priced at just forty eight a ruck, 546 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 2: and that the West Coast Eagles desperately need just the 547 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: four games last year with ankle and hamstring issues. Played 548 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 2: six games in the Waffle as well, average ninety six 549 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: in the Waffle, so showed you know, I mean, we 550 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 2: know second tier comps, a lot of these players just 551 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 2: dominate regardless, but still had six hitouts to advantage thirty 552 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: one hitouts a game could manage fifteen disposals in that league. 553 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 2: It isn't the easiest league going around the waffle, so 554 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 2: we can say at least it's not the old and 555 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 2: Nethl days there, So. 556 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 6: Matt Flynn samples. Yeah. 557 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 2: I just think honestly though, if he's named, I think 558 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 2: it's just a smash platflex. We're always asking or wondering, 559 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 2: how do we play these these R threes that you 560 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 2: know we want to take a punt on? And if 561 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 2: Matt Flynn is named and is playing early, I think 562 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: he's kind of almost not a no brainer. You know, 563 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: there's lots of different strategies you can play with the 564 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: new flex position if you are if you have been 565 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 2: living under a rock, flex is the new position in 566 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 2: super Coach. There's going to be twenty three players on 567 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 2: field this year and only your best twenty two account. 568 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 2: But I think, yeah, Mattlin for me, is going to 569 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 2: be a really popular selection, at least in the early 570 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 2: planning stages before we kind of figure out those those 571 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 2: round one teams. 572 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean the only question for me on him 573 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: is just, you know, in our dream world, he just 574 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: walked straight back into the number one rock roll of 575 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: the Eagles, And we've seen cheap rucks is such a 576 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: great way to score super coach points if you're effectively 577 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: comparing him to other rookies in other positions. You know, 578 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 1: at the ruck you just get first crack at every stoppage, 579 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: and even if you're half decent at it, you'll average 580 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: seventy or eighty. And we've seen, you know, the Jordan 581 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: Sweets of the world come in and make a heap 582 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: of money doing that. 583 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 4: So it'll be great if that's the role that he gets. 584 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: I just you know, I sort of want to see 585 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: it because those they got him from GWS for that 586 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: role and last year he had injuries and things just 587 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: didn't work for him, and Bailey Williams played there. 588 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, how do they use those guys? How does the 589 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 4: puzzles sort of fit together this year? 590 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: And again, I guess once we get some actual games, 591 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: we'll get a better look at that. 592 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll have to see what mcgold wants to do 593 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 2: with the squad and how they shape up as well. 594 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 2: There's going to be just so many it's one to 595 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 2: really watch closely. But he's a guy that they need regardless, 596 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 2: I think, and hopefully get some games into him this year. 597 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 2: But Demo, you're up next, mate. 598 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 5: I better pick someone from the dockers, I'm going with 599 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 5: Nathan o'drisco one hundred and ninety eight K. He's been 600 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 5: injury ravaged over the last few seasons and it's not 601 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 5: been because of choice that he's been out of the 602 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 5: docker's side, and I think in an ideal world he 603 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 5: is playing on the opposite wing to Jeremy Sharp, running 604 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 5: the ball from half back to half forward, being that 605 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 5: guy that can also go inside if needed, kind of 606 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 5: almost like a more outside version of Humor Pluggage, if 607 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 5: that's at all possible. But I mean, if he can 608 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 5: get back to the way that he was playing in 609 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 5: his debut season, when I think he scored nineties in 610 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 5: his first two weeks of full games or close to that. Anyway, 611 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 5: I reckon at one ninety eight K he is an 612 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 5: absolute bargain and he only needs to make one hundred 613 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 5: K on hundred and fifty K to be a successful selection, 614 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 5: and at this stage you'd think he's in the dock 615 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 5: is best twenty three heading into round one. 616 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 2: I remember his rookie year. I think, you know, we 617 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: were sort of he sort of came out onto the 618 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 2: scene because I think he didn't sorry his second year, 619 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 2: he sort of managed to crack into the team. I 620 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 2: think it was. And yeah, he seemed to be kind 621 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 2: of that heart and soul player demo like you're saying, 622 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 2: and he sort of has had some big performances over 623 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 2: the years, but coming in at sort of basically almost 624 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 2: basement or you're paying sort of like a top end 625 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 2: draft pick, sort of top ten draft pick range, Dan, 626 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 2: do you reckon he's got sort of maybe a bit 627 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: more job security or would you sort of be leaning 628 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 2: towards I know, you know the draft really well, would 629 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 2: you prefer to spend that money on one of these 630 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 2: gun players from the draft this year? 631 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 3: Yes, it's an interesting we sort of know what we're 632 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 3: going to get from o'dris skull like and he has 633 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 3: been a profitable, profitable rookie before, but he was at 634 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,959 Speaker 3: that basement price of course, you know, playing in that 635 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 3: wing role. It'll be interesting to see sort of which 636 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 3: you ously obviously you know, even look at like Melbourne, 637 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 3: there's often an unrewarded winger who you know, or even 638 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 3: Camden Macintosh, say Richmond, who's not getting many of the touches. 639 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 6: He's just running end to end. 640 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 3: So where is it Jeremy Sharp who's getting most of 641 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 3: the possessions and you're playing in the attacking role and 642 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 3: it's it's not playing as the in the defensive role. 643 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 6: So it'll be interesting in that regard. 644 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 3: But yeah, you compare it to say, like a Josh Smile, 645 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 3: who's probably going to be playing inside midfield most weeks, 646 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 3: and there's a host of others who could potentially be 647 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 3: in the frame in that midfield mix. I'd probably have 648 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 3: others aheads. I think less he can. He really shoots 649 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 3: the lights out in the preseason, and we know he's 650 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 3: going to have like a pretty pretty promising role. But yeah, 651 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 3: I mean it's definitely one to look at, especially if 652 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 3: those other midfield rookies don't emerge or that you know, 653 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 3: maybe they debut a bit later than opening round or 654 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 3: round one. Yeah. 655 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely, so it's background to you. Damn, we got one 656 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: pick each left. Is there any any gems still left 657 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: on the board. 658 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 3: There's not a lot, to be honest. But I'll go 659 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 3: a bit outside the box. I've been a little bit 660 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,959 Speaker 3: cookie cutter, and this isn't really the podcast. We've been 661 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 3: cookie cutter, but you know, I'll go from a guy 662 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 3: I've been watching at Cat's training in camp gus three 663 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 3: two hundred and seventy eight k midfielder price at fifty 664 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 3: two average. You know, he won a Best in Ferris 665 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,479 Speaker 3: in He's joined Best in Ferris into Long's premiership year 666 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two, but since then he's only played 667 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 3: about ten games all up. And last year, who played 668 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 3: about five or six games, sorry seven, I think it 669 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 3: was about seven or eight games all up, and that 670 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 3: was including VFL as well. I tried to get back 671 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 3: in late in the season and after that achilles issue 672 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 3: that really plagued him throughout the season. But yeah, and 673 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 3: his year so it looked like a decent He actually 674 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 3: was going to be in my team to start twenty 675 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 3: twenty three, and then his first practice game pinned his squad. 676 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 3: It was pretty much in the first ten or twenty 677 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 3: seconds of the game. So injury obviously is the massive 678 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 3: question mark. But he's been running well at Cat's training. 679 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 3: Obviously it's only running, but he's on a bit of 680 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 3: a modified program there down at the Cutteries. So we 681 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 3: know what he has produced in the past. You think 682 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 3: that's probably beyond him. But if you can get to 683 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 3: a ninety five one hundred average, especially over those sort 684 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 3: of first eight weeks you can easily pivot to a 685 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 3: premium after making a fair bit of cash. But the 686 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 3: only obviously, along with those injury issues. He is thirty 687 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 3: two and he does have that round three by so 688 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 3: if you are picking him, you probably can't pick your 689 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 3: Kitty Colemans, Tom Dooday and a lot of those guys. 690 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 6: But yeah, I think he's another one. 691 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 3: Obviously it's slim pickings in this sort of bracket, but 692 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 3: another to you know, keep a bit of a watch 693 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 3: on during the preseason. 694 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: Baylor Smith obviously is the other one who shares the 695 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: buy in of course playing the same team. But we've 696 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: been talking about him a lot, and a lot of 697 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: the talk is you know, who's the Cat's number one 698 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: midfield of beans is just going to walk straight in there? 699 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: But how do you see it shaking up? And does 700 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: you know is Cam Guthrie part of the mix? 701 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an interesting question because you know, obviously you've 702 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 3: got Bailly Smith, Tanner Bruin Camp Guthrie of his feet. 703 00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 3: You think danger is probably going to be out of 704 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 3: there a bit more. But they still did so much 705 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 3: better when he was in versus when he was out 706 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 3: on the sidelines Ji Clark, but yeah, I don't think 707 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 3: they've been trolling him off half back to start the 708 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 3: preseason as well, which is interesting because he doesn't have 709 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 3: a great kick on him, but yeah, you know he's 710 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 3: pretty agile, so and then obviously Max Holmes and Tom Stewart, 711 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 3: like you know, it could be a bit of a 712 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 3: horses for courses with with Max Holmes because he seems 713 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 3: to inject so much, whether it's in defense or the midfield. 714 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 3: So to answer your question, I'll absolutely no idea. What's 715 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 3: what's going to happen. I think you can bank on 716 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 3: Bailey Smith being there, but yeah, can Guthrie will be 717 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 3: there if he's fit, but again that's a big if. 718 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 3: They'll definitely be conservative with him. 719 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 6: I would have. 720 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 2: Thought, apologies if this is anyone on anyone's list, and 721 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 2: cut me off and we can talk about him after. 722 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 2: But just speaking about Geelong as well, is there any 723 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 2: news on Toby Conway for this season coming down? 724 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been on a modified program when I've been 725 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 3: down there. Obviously you've got your Cam Guthries and Jack 726 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 3: Martins who are sort of completing some of training and 727 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 3: then sort of just going off and doing their own running, 728 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 3: whereas Toby hasn't been doing a lot. But it's no 729 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 3: actual injury he had obviously the stress fractures of stress 730 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 3: fructuring his foot that end of his season. It seems 731 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 3: to be more just a conservative management rather than necessarily 732 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 3: that foot injury that he's. 733 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 6: Been sidelined with. 734 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm very unsure about how they're going to 735 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 3: go about the rucks, whether it is a Sanda Coning 736 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,439 Speaker 3: who ends up rucking as he did at times during 737 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 3: the second half of the year and then or whether 738 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 3: they go again with Ree Stanley or even Mitch Edwards, 739 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 3: the draft e from a couple of years ago who 740 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 3: showing some good signs on the track. But yeah, you'd 741 00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 3: think Toby Conway will be fit for a Round one. 742 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 3: But I think, just like last year, they're not gonna 743 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 3: throw him to the wolves. It might be two weeks in, 744 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 3: one week out. That's sort of that sort of thing, 745 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 3: as they did last year managing him along with Ree Stanley. 746 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 3: So I think, yeah, the fact that Ree Stanley's on 747 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 3: going on another year isn't a great sign in terms 748 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 3: of the trust they have in Toby Kongway's body. So yeah, 749 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 3: I think that all certainly will play out a bit 750 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 3: over the next couple of months, and. 751 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 2: A mid price anyway, he would have been in the 752 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 2: other brackets, so that's my bad anyway. 753 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: So yeah, still potential value there, but yeah, you'd want 754 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: to make sure he's getting a regular game if you're 755 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: playing three hundred and forty k rap l. Yeah. Well, yes, 756 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 1: it must have been. My topics have all been spoken 757 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: about already. But so let's just go absolutely crazy here. 758 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: And someone I hadn't thought about it all until I 759 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: read an article in the held Son about two days ago, 760 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: and that is Jack Sylvanney. He's two hundred and fifty 761 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: nine and kay missed all of last year after doing 762 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: his ACL in January. Looking at his numbers in the past, 763 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: he's averaged around seventy seventy five, which you know, it's 764 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: not bad, but probably not enough to pick him at 765 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: that price. But then there's a mention in Josh Barnes 766 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: wrote this article on the hel it's unsaying I think 767 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: might have even been talking up about training with the defenders. 768 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: I think he's just in the WhatsApp group with some 769 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: of the defenders, and Josh asked, Jack, is this a 770 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: real thing about playing in defense this year, and he's 771 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 1: quote is, as far as I know, it's legit. 772 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 4: So yeah, definitely one just to pencil into the watch list. 773 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 1: And if you know, we've seen this before where players 774 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 1: that you hadn't really even thought about go into defense 775 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: and play a role where they're maybe you can imagine 776 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: him playing a bit loose floating around getting some uncontested 777 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: in intercepd marks even and that can be a real 778 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: ticket to Super Coach scoring. 779 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 4: So he's wanted to keep in mind. 780 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: I remember picking Mitch McGovern down at the Blues a 781 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, thinking he's going to take all 782 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,439 Speaker 1: his intercept marks and didn't quite work out. But yeah, 783 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: Jack's a very solid citizen as we know, and ye, 784 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: he could be a fun pick in super Coach. So 785 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: he's a forward obviously, So again we talk about the 786 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: forwards being pretty crowded with all these value picks, but 787 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: he's another one that we could potentially look at. 788 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that had that fantastic year a couple of years ago, 789 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 2: but he was playing quite a bit of midfield and 790 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 2: like almost back up rock when he seemed to score well. 791 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 2: Because I remember I was a draft owner at the 792 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 2: time and I was he had the weirdest role. He 793 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 2: could just sort of like, I mean, throwing him in 794 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 2: defense probably isn't a surprise. He's sort of a jack 795 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 2: of all trades, can do a bit of everything. So yeah, 796 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 2: he'd be a real punt for me. I think, I 797 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 2: think I know you had to, I know you had 798 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 2: to clutch at something there al, but I think I'd 799 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 2: be really waiting to see some sort of role out 800 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 2: of him. I think he'll be purely on my draft 801 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 2: boards in super coach and nothing else. 802 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 3: But this could have how many teams he got eighteen 803 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,720 Speaker 3: teams in that draft? 804 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 6: Is your last pick? 805 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 2: Look, speaking of players taking a punt on, this is 806 00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 2: my final pick and another guy that maybe's left see 807 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,240 Speaker 2: our taste in our mouth in the in the past 808 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 2: and certainly been mostly just draft relevant, but coming to 809 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 2: the power this season. At two hundred and thirty three thousand, 810 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 2: seven hundred dollars to take Dan Houston's role surging up 811 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 2: to a ninety five to one hundred average, we got 812 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 2: Rory Atkins. 813 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 6: How he's in the sample super coach most. 814 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 2: Likely three games at AFL level last year only average 815 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 2: thirty eight, but in the VFL he was absolutely killing 816 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,720 Speaker 2: it for the Gold Coast Suns last season, thirty three 817 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 2: disposals a game, twenty one kicks when it's seventy seven 818 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 2: percent kicking efficiency, racked up ten marks a game in 819 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 2: seven rebound fifties, one hundred and twenty seven super coach 820 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 2: points for him on average in those sixteen games, So 821 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 2: not a small sample size for that average. Why not 822 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 2: Rory Atkins. They're searching for a player to use in 823 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 2: their back line that you know who is it? Is 824 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 2: it going to be josh Sin? We've had names we 825 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 2: hit here, Joshin's name every preseason just about for since 826 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 2: he's been drafted, So five seasons averaging over seventy for 827 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,720 Speaker 2: Rory Atkins, including seventy two as recently as twenty twenty 828 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 2: three from seventeen games with the Sun. So look at 829 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 2: two thirty three k I'm probably not bold enough to 830 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 2: do it, but we've heard over here in Adelaide. He 831 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 2: had a presser when he first came. There was quite 832 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 2: a bit of Rory Atkins bazza. They threw him to 833 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 2: maybe a few times, but he was saying, look, I'm 834 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,240 Speaker 2: you know, keen to have an impact this year and beyond. 835 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 2: So he's sort of pegging himself into the lineup for 836 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 2: a few years to come still, So look, if if 837 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 2: his confidence has anything to show for it, maybe he 838 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 2: will have a role this year. Let's wait and see. 839 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 2: But if he is named and he has a role, 840 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 2: you know there's plenty of ball to go back there 841 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,240 Speaker 2: with Dan Houston out of the side. Deamo, your thoughts 842 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 2: on Rory Atkins. 843 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 5: I have no thoughts on Rory Atkins. He has not 844 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 5: come into my thinking at all. I know a few 845 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 5: years ago he was rookie price, pretty close to rookie price, 846 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 5: and everyone was wanting to get him in late in 847 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 5: the season because he was the only one actually making money. 848 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 5: But as far as a selection for twenty twenty five goes, 849 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 5: I think I'd have to be pretty down the bottom 850 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 5: of my list as be selecting him in my starting side. 851 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 3: Dam I just a quick quote from Chris Davies, like 852 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 3: just when they did the Houston trade and god Atkins, 853 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 3: he said of him, we think he can add depth 854 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 3: to our squad overall, you know the issue we've got 855 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 3: with senior players at sample level. We think he can 856 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 3: definitely do a job for us there. So I think 857 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 3: that says all you need pretty much to saying we 858 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 3: have picked a sample player. 859 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 2: That is right rough, all right, round out this. Who 860 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 2: have you got? You got some diamond in the rough 861 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 2: that we've missed here. 862 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 5: I think my pick might be worse than Rory Atkins, 863 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 5: to be honest, I've gone with Bailey Humphrey at the 864 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 5: Suns two seventy K in his debut season. He had 865 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 5: a I've run average of ninety six point two. And 866 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 5: everyone's picking or has picked Shy Bolton in the past 867 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 5: because if his role let him move, when he rolls 868 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 5: up into the midfield off the half forward line and 869 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 5: sometimes attends some center bounces, and Bailey Humphrey when he 870 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 5: plays that role, he has a really high ceiling. No 871 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 5: idea what Damian Hardwick has planned after all these acquisitions 872 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 5: in the off season, you know, drafting Leo Lombard, got 873 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 5: Noah Anderson matt Row. Who knows where Sam Flanders plays 874 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 5: this season? What do they do with John Noble and 875 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 5: Daniel Rioli. But if Bailey Humphrey can forge a role 876 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 5: similar to like a Dylan Moore like econom McDonald kind 877 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 5: of thing at the Suns and he has some midfield 878 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 5: minutes pushing up from half forward. Then Bailey Humphrey might 879 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 5: be someone we look at, but you know, it's not 880 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 5: a great selection to fit to round out the podcast with, 881 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 5: but just someone that sticks in my mind because I 882 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 5: had him late in that season when he was getting 883 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 5: those big scores. I think we all jumped on him 884 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 5: around that buy because we wanted some money to play 885 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 5: with in upgrades in that season. 886 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 2: I remember, I think there was a highlight from when 887 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,280 Speaker 2: he played VFL, I think before maybe getting into the AFL, 888 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,359 Speaker 2: or a preseason highlight. It was something where he did 889 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 2: the Dusty fend off and it was a goal from 890 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 2: outside fifty. So I remember some Dusty comparisons early in 891 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 2: the career, and yeah, I didn't know that that five 892 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 2: round average you mentioned, I think that sounded pretty pretty. 893 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 4: Full f memory. He had this ridiculous run where. 894 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 6: He kicked kicking Darlin, that's right, he think, like the winning. 895 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 1: Goal two or three games in a row, or you know, 896 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,760 Speaker 1: the clutch golded sealer where he got this extra little 897 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 1: spike at the end of the game to push his 898 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 1: score up. But I remember, because I didn't have him, 899 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: it was really annoying and he kept doing it. But 900 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: I think Dan, you might have been a happy Humphrey 901 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,840 Speaker 1: owner from not mistaken but then and also did a 902 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,399 Speaker 1: bit of work on you know, talking to him before 903 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 1: he was drafted. 904 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, he's a great kid. It does a lot 905 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,399 Speaker 3: in the mental health space. So I suppose to him 906 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,399 Speaker 3: in the lead up to him being drafted, so watched 907 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 3: him very close. I think it's a matter of if, 908 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 3: not a matter of when not if he becomes a 909 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 3: full time midfielder. He's just so damaging as we saw 910 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 3: during that period that Damo mentions. You know, he was 911 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 3: only having about sixty percent time on ground because he 912 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 3: was he was pretty gas. But you know, he has 913 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 3: the capacity to win games and whether in the in 914 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 3: the midfield or up forwards. So I think he will 915 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 3: become a lot more super coach relevant into the future. 916 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's just whether he can get that consistent 917 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 3: midfield time and whether he is his tank is up 918 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 3: to it, because you know, if that's all, if he's 919 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 3: ticking those boxes, then yeah he's you know, he can 920 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 3: have twenty five disposals and win you a game and 921 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 3: you know, kick kick two goals. So yeah, he's super damaging, 922 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 3: super powerful at the contest, and yeah, as we saw 923 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 3: it can't kick goals, but yeah, it's just that midfield 924 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 3: forward split. Whether whether it sort of tips over that 925 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 3: sort of sixty percent, then we can definitely consider it. 926 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,240 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's hard to break into that sons of midfield, 927 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 3: especially with guys like Leo Lombard and obviously the stack 928 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 3: midfield they already. 929 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 1: Have interesting he said, yeah, he's already Yeah, you know, 930 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: a pretty mature guy talking about some of those mental 931 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 1: health issues very early on. And he did an interview 932 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: with Calm dickup in Brisbane in December where he talked 933 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: about being compared to Dustin Martin early in his career 934 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 1: with you know, some of those traits that he had, 935 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,759 Speaker 1: and he said that, yeah, he did actually struggle with 936 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 1: that a little bit, and he's the quote is it 937 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 1: did take a toll on me mentally. I felt like 938 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 1: I had to be him having thirty disposals and three 939 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 1: goals every game, and when I didn't do that, I 940 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: feel like I was letting people down. So he's you know, 941 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 1: that's sort of something that he's actually working through himself. 942 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 1: To you, as he says, forge his own path, and 943 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 1: you know, he knows he doesn't have to be compared 944 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: to someone like Dusty, So yeah, he's got a pretty 945 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 1: mature head on his shoulders. And yeah, you know, from 946 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,240 Speaker 1: what we've seen, it'd be great if he can break 947 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 1: out and have a successful career. But yeah, would that 948 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: translate to a successful pick in Super Coach. I mean potentially, 949 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 1: the prices a tempting, so definitely want to watch. 950 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 2: I think now, if we're not picking him in our 951 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,359 Speaker 2: classic size, we're definitely looking at him in our in our. 952 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 6: Keeper league, in our draft league. 953 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 2: So regardless of great a great, great pick that day, mate. 954 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, good share. 955 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 1: So I just had a few other names that we 956 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 1: didn't get to, but I thought I just mentioned because 957 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 1: it's sort of surprising how many experienced players show up 958 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: when you do look through the you know, scrolling scrolling 959 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 1: down down down to the bottom of the Super Coach prices, 960 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 1: and some pretty surprising ones in there, or just some 961 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 1: blasts from the past. I mean, I've seen in a 962 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: couple of early teams Callum Coleman Jones. He's only one 963 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty eight thousand as a forward, but we 964 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 1: know he hasn't quite fulfilled his potential, and also he's 965 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: got a delayed preseason at the moment with some complications 966 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 1: in his. 967 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 3: Record hed he sidelined until May or June as well. 968 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 3: From that, he had a really really nasty injury last 969 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,799 Speaker 3: years stretch it off, so you can probably cross him 970 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 3: off the lease even but when he maybe it's a 971 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:54,879 Speaker 3: mid season down. 972 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 6: Great option of one thirty k if he breaks. 973 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,399 Speaker 1: In Joe Ferra, who not a hugely well no name 974 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 1: but at court more because I know our friend Tim 975 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,919 Speaker 1: has picked him in the past in Super Coach, maybe 976 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: you'll go there again this year. He's only one hundred 977 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 1: and nineteen thousand despite being aged twenty eight. He was 978 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 1: originally drafted in twenty nineteen, but struggled to get a 979 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 1: game in the last couple of years. 980 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,400 Speaker 4: Over back over in Frio Oscar McDonald. 981 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 1: I only played the one game last year and heard 982 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 1: his knee, so I don't if there's any hope that 983 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 1: he'll get back into Frio's best team. But he's only 984 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 1: one hundred and nineteen k in defense, so there's a 985 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 1: few others there. What about David Swallow, former number one 986 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 1: draft pick. He's played two hundred and forty AFL games. 987 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,880 Speaker 1: He's two hundred and thirty three thousand defense forward DPP. 988 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 4: Is that to tempt you at all? 989 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 6: Does he not at all? What about every time? 990 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,439 Speaker 2: Last year was yeah? 991 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 1: No, actually he was the sub nine times. Yeah, so 992 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 1: it became a bit of a professional Subit got another 993 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 1: year on the list. 994 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 4: What about Dom Sheeed? What happened to him? 995 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 1: He's now two hundred and thirty eight thousand, but only 996 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 1: averaged forty four last year. Yeah. 997 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 2: I thought about mentioning him on this show. There was 998 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 2: just guys I probably like more. Maybe he could have 999 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 2: taken the Rory Atkin spot. Look Sheed, I think I 1000 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,879 Speaker 2: started to worry. I think it was two years ago 1001 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,799 Speaker 2: people were talking about him as an option, and I 1002 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 2: saw him wearing the career savers out there on the field, 1003 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 2: the old Assex trustee shoes that are only you only 1004 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 2: wear when really towards the end of the career, not 1005 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 2: the start. 1006 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 3: I think I wore an old junior career. So it 1007 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 3: probably says about. 1008 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 2: Crow generally, but no, he I really I hope he 1009 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 2: gets back to his best. He's only twenty nine years old, 1010 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 2: so probably in that in that mold of you know, 1011 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,959 Speaker 2: I think he's even younger than your Cam Guthrie. Who 1012 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 2: if he can crack back in. But both those guys, 1013 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 2: you know, veterans that have done it before. Sheed's never 1014 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 2: been to the to the heights of a cam Guthrie 1015 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 2: in terms of his super coach scoring prowess. But obviously 1016 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 2: a match winner as we saw in twenty eighteen, a 1017 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,359 Speaker 2: guy that thank you. 1018 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 3: Very much so to get that one into for the 1019 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 3: Collingwood fans listening and laste. 1020 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 4: One for day May. 1021 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 1: What about Michael Wilds down to two hundred and thirty 1022 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 1: six thousand at the Dockers, still running around maybe last year, 1023 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: you might think, but is there anything left in the 1024 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:05,800 Speaker 1: tank for suns? 1025 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,359 Speaker 5: I don't even know if he's in the best twenty 1026 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 5: three anymore. You know, they've got Bolton, they've got switch Kowski, 1027 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,839 Speaker 5: they've got Stirt. You know, they've just drafted Murphy Reid, 1028 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 5: and then the year and then a year ago they 1029 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 5: got Cooper Simpson as well. So is Michael Walter's even 1030 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 5: in their best twenty two or twenty three anymore? It's 1031 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 5: hard to you can make a case for him, but 1032 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 5: it's also hard to you know, endorse the selection as well. 1033 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, maybe a sub specialist sub, come on, impact player. 1034 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 1: I remember he was a favorite, well not so favorite 1035 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 1: pick in super coaching years past when he had a 1036 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 1: blistering run in the midfield and I brought him in 1037 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 1: at some ridiculous price and then he went straight back 1038 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 1: to the forward pocket. 1039 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 4: So but I do like watching him plays. He's a 1040 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:46,919 Speaker 4: good fun player to watch. 1041 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 1: So I think those all the names really exist. Exhausts 1042 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,440 Speaker 1: who I had down, but there's plenty of there is from. 1043 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 3: One very I think the one that's snuck through Angus Sheldrick. 1044 00:48:58,640 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 6: I don't mind him. 1045 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,319 Speaker 3: He was looking alright a couple of years ago. It thought, 1046 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,320 Speaker 3: oh gee, it's just you know, you obviously had awesome 1047 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 3: junior numbers again in waffle under eight ens, so you know, 1048 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,799 Speaker 3: akin to sample under eight EN's. But yeah, had I've 1049 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,879 Speaker 3: had that sort of Bailey hump free effect where he 1050 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,880 Speaker 3: burst onto the scene and had a good, you know, 1051 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 3: sort of five run game. And you know, with Luke 1052 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,799 Speaker 3: Parker out of that side, like, do you think he 1053 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:32,439 Speaker 3: is a decent shout DOSSI obviously a w A boy, 1054 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 3: But think that Dean Cox will will play him in 1055 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:37,879 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. 1056 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, him and Braden Campbell. I'm really interested to see 1057 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 2: where they fit into the side because Campbell's also a cheaper, 1058 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,319 Speaker 2: cheaper price player that should be I think, getting more 1059 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 2: opportunities this year, but averaged I just looked it up. 1060 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,239 Speaker 2: Eighty eight super coach average in the VFL last year 1061 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 2: for Sheldrick, which includes presumably an injured game of nine, 1062 00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:59,919 Speaker 2: so you'd probably bump that up a little bit into 1063 00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 2: the nineties. There at least he had six or so 1064 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 2: tons and you also presume that would have been playing 1065 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 2: a little bit with Luke Parker so in the NFL 1066 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,919 Speaker 2: last year. So yeah, twenty four disposes of a game, 1067 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,279 Speaker 2: four marks six clearances. But yeah, he also he was 1068 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,360 Speaker 2: one that when he did play early on, I was 1069 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 2: really keen to see him play. Seemed to be able 1070 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,279 Speaker 2: to rack up the pill. So definitely one that I 1071 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,879 Speaker 2: would consider. You know, he is in that super cheap 1072 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 2: sort of rookie bracket. He's definitely one that I'd be 1073 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 2: locking into my team if we see that Dean Cox, 1074 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 2: you know, has his eye into some sort of role 1075 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:35,240 Speaker 2: for Sheldrip. 1076 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, from memory, he was a real points per minute guy. 1077 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 1: When he burst into the scene. He had very low 1078 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 1: game time, but when he was on, he showed he 1079 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:42,960 Speaker 1: could actually score points one of the names that I 1080 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 1: forgot that I will mention in passing two just because 1081 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:47,680 Speaker 1: maybe could finish up with him, because we know he's 1082 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,360 Speaker 1: a favorite of the Hipster and the phantoms Layer, and 1083 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 1: that is Jack Carroll famously keptained by the Hipster one 1084 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,320 Speaker 1: day by mistake and he's moved from Carlton Tuson. 1085 00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 4: Killed always picked up as a delisted free agent. 1086 00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 1: Actually played fifth dean games for the Blues last year, 1087 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 1: but was the sub in nine of those. 1088 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,880 Speaker 4: So you know, we talked about and cure to midfield. 1089 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 1: Who knows what they're going to do over there, But 1090 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:08,839 Speaker 1: he's only two hundred and twenty four k's if forward 1091 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,440 Speaker 1: meet in super Coach, So just wanted to keep an 1092 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 1: eye if he does get to get a look in 1093 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 1: the preseason. He's got a decent game, can win clearances 1094 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,919 Speaker 1: and get his hands on the pill if he gets 1095 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,839 Speaker 1: the opportunity. So he's another one coming in pretty cheap 1096 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 1: that we could potentially look at. 1097 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,840 Speaker 2: Certainly, love love all these options, and again I'll be 1098 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 2: if I'm not looking at them in classic, I'll be 1099 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,320 Speaker 2: certainly pegging him in my draft. 1100 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 6: Boards and seeing him there. 1101 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 2: There's I mean, there's more that we didn't even get to, 1102 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 2: but I won't mention them. We've spoken for far too 1103 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 2: long for an under three hundred k podcast here. 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