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Speaker 1: Hello, super Coaches. Super Coach Finals is here. The Classic

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Speaker 1: season is done for the season, but we've got four

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Speaker 1: weeks of our short form game to come over the

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Speaker 1: actual NL finals to keep your heart pumping. Wilson Smith

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Speaker 1: is here. First of all, a little recap of your

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Speaker 1: classic season and your draft season as well.

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Speaker 2: How'd you go?

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Speaker 3: Classic season was just a disaster. I never really I

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Speaker 3: had two weeks off in the middle of the year

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Speaker 3: to go away for holidays, and I just never really

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Speaker 3: caught up my draft legs. One leg I went out

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Speaker 3: in the first leg of finals. Last week, I had

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Speaker 3: a Grand Final and my team went well, but my

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Speaker 3: opponent had Mark no Wonga, need to say, and midg

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Speaker 3: Moses go crazy. So a bit of a heartbreaking loss

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Speaker 3: in the end.

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Speaker 2: Mate. You should have paid for Wi Fi on that crew, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I should have.

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Speaker 1: But alas for me, finished four thousandth which it's okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm relatively happy with considering I had such a horrible

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Speaker 1: start of the year and I had Cleary as captain

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Speaker 1: in the third round or whatever it was for two

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Speaker 1: points at that point when I was running sixty thousandth

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Speaker 1: or so. If you said I'd get four thousandth I'd

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Speaker 1: be happy. It's still not that great compared to what

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Speaker 1: has been achieved in the past, but I did win

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Speaker 1: a classic league. It was Trent Copeland's League, and I've

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Speaker 1: just looked at my bank account now and I've got

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Speaker 1: the bank transferred the winnings. We're just lobbed, so I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty happy with that. Onto Supercoach Finals though, so it's

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Speaker 1: our new short form game. There's no salary cap, which

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Speaker 1: is good. So I mean, if you're looking at buying

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Speaker 1: rookies for Supercoach Finals, you're just not doing it. You're

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Speaker 1: picking the best players in every position. Fresh team every week.

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Speaker 1: Of course, that just depends on who stays in the

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Speaker 1: finals in the weeks going forward, so you don't get

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Speaker 1: all the time, do I need to pick players this

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Speaker 1: week who I think are going to make the Grand Final?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely not. New team every week. Captain gets triple points

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Speaker 1: and vice captain double, which I think is huge. But

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Speaker 1: the toughest rule for me is that there's a maximum

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Speaker 1: of two players per team for this first week. That

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Speaker 1: increases to three and four in the next week's coming up,

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Speaker 1: but still two players, so you can't just target a

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Speaker 1: match up like for example, I really want that Panthers v.

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Speaker 1: Warriors matchup, but I can only pick two Panthers in

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Speaker 1: my team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I suppose it's fair. Otherwise I too

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Speaker 3: would be just loading up on Panthers. But I do

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Speaker 3: think it's manageable. So I think there's enough good players

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Speaker 3: in most of the games. I'm going to be avoiding

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Speaker 3: one of the games like completely, but I think there's

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Speaker 3: enough players from all the teams that you can get

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Speaker 3: it a pretty good squad.

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Speaker 1: So for me, if you like a matchup, and I

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Speaker 1: do like this, Panthers be Warriors one, you have to

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Speaker 1: go with back line guys from those games, and then

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Speaker 1: stack your forwards with the games that you think will

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Speaker 1: be a little bit tighter, like maybe the Storm for

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Speaker 1: the Bulldogs and well, I mean pain aassist is just

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Speaker 1: a must no matter what.

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Speaker 2: Beau is so much better than any other prop.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and for the Panthers, I think Nathan Cleary is

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Speaker 3: like an absolute must.

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Speaker 1: The other rule, of course, is that you've got one

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Speaker 1: player in every position, including the flex. Your flex comes

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Speaker 1: in for your worst scoring player, same as super Coach Classic.

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Speaker 2: So how are you planning to use the flex? For me?

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Speaker 1: I really want to go to fullbacks because that's the

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Speaker 1: highest scoring position.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think for me Nathan Cleary is a

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Speaker 3: lock at half back, and then at fullback. I'm sort

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Speaker 3: of torn between James Tedesco and Reese Welsh, so I

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Speaker 3: may just go with whichever one of them I don't

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Speaker 3: start at my fullback, but I'm kind of that I

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Speaker 3: might be keen to go with another like goal kicking

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Speaker 2: Tempting, but.

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Speaker 3: Some sort of torn between an extra half back and

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Speaker 1: I also kind of like Nico Heins Shark Park as well,

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Speaker 1: goal kicking halfback, so on the same page there, but

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Speaker 1: he's not my number one pod. The Super Coach Finals,

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Speaker 1: we'll start with your pod first mine.

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Speaker 3: So I'm sort of torn, but I think I've identified

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Speaker 3: five to eight as the position I want to pod yea,

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Speaker 3: and so I think most people are going to go

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Speaker 3: with Cam Munster, but I'm sort of looking at Blais

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Speaker 3: to Lungy or Ethan Strange. I think those are the

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Speaker 3: two guys that I think have a lot of upside,

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Speaker 3: and we're talking about it before, but because because it's

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Speaker 3: a short and form game, and you have to one

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Speaker 3: same player. I think if you want to succeed, you

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Speaker 3: kind of have to have at least one big pod,

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Speaker 3: and so I think five eight is the position I'm

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Speaker 1: I actually have to Luggy in my team right now,

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Speaker 1: So I like where you're going with that for me.

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Speaker 1: Sena wing is just going to be an absolute lottery.

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Speaker 1: Wong Itawazi is by far the most popular at thirty percent,

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Speaker 1: which is a lot lower than the other positions. I

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Speaker 1: think the guy who could go nuts there is Nick

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Speaker 1: Meanie playing fullback with Papenhausen out and kicking goals, which

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Speaker 1: he's done for a while, but when he's had those

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Speaker 1: two responsibilities this year, he's averaged eighty seven.

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Speaker 2: So I think he's.

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Speaker 1: A really solid pod choice at that position at very

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I really really like it. I think the Storm

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Speaker 3: Bulldogs game is the game that I think I mostly

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Speaker 3: want to avoid, But of all the players in that game,

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Speaker 3: I think he is the guy with the most upside,

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Speaker 3: especially if he is king goals, which it looks like

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Speaker 3: it will be. So you really like me and he

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Speaker 3: as a pick as well.

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Speaker 1: You were talking, I thought, I assume that you were

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Speaker 1: going to come out with Brian Tool as your pod,

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Speaker 1: but you've changed it.

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Speaker 2: Up at the last minute. Well, what's the reason. He's

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Speaker 3: So I haven't locked in my pods yet, but I

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Speaker 3: do think Brian Tore is another a good pod contender.

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Speaker 3: But like we were saying, you can only have two

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Speaker 3: players per match up, and I've already got Nathan Cleary

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Speaker 3: locked in and I may go Blaze to Lungey at

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Speaker 3: five eight, which means I wouldn't be able to go

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Speaker 3: Toere at center wing. And I also like Dylan Edwards

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Speaker 3: to make up because of that two player per team rule.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Edwards is really low ownership, so I think he's

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Speaker 1: a good purchase with the base stats that he's got.

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Speaker 1: Plus Bryan, He's had two weeks off resting like a

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Speaker 1: gazillion niggles. He's got a hand string issues, got knee issues.

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Speaker 1: But after two weeks off in a good matchup, we

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Speaker 1: think it's the best matchup this week. I think he's

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Speaker 1: a really good point of difference for your teams this week,

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Speaker 1: we're going to go position by position. We're not going

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Speaker 1: team by team this week. But Harry Grant forty percent,

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Speaker 1: Blake Brayley is at thirty nine percent. So let's call

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Speaker 1: it absolutely even on those two. And then I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's any point owning anyone else. You've got Watson, Starling, Egan.

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Speaker 1: Many avoid those guys. So who's the best pick out

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Speaker 1: of Grant and Brayley.

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Speaker 3: Look, it is a bit of a coin flip between

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Speaker 3: Grant and Brayley, I think, because like Connor Watson, I

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Speaker 3: probably move back to the bench right before kickoff and

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Speaker 3: got to go with either Grant or Brayley. And for me,

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Speaker 3: Grant has just been a bit too inconsistent. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's been off for a couple of weeks, but before

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Speaker 3: that he was just a bit too inconsistent for me.

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Speaker 3: Whereas Blake Brayley's like in the best warm of his

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Speaker 3: career at the moment, so I think he's the clear

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Speaker 3: choice at hooker, and I think I like his matchup.

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Speaker 2: A little bit more.

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Speaker 1: Everything you say makes absolute sense Brayley is the form

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Speaker 1: guy in that position, but I'm just backing Grant purely

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Speaker 1: on his big game experience. We saw him in Origin

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Speaker 1: this year, and particularly when Jerome Hughes he's not in

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Speaker 1: the team, he takes on a lot of responsibility in attack,

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Speaker 1: so I think, and Papenha hasn't not there too, so

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of the attack will revolve around

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Speaker 1: Harry Grant. So for that reason, I'm going with Harry.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I love Brawley too. It's basically flip the

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Speaker 1: coin between those two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think in games this year where Harry Grant has

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Speaker 3: had to sort of play that leading role because of injuries,

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Speaker 3: he has normally gone really well. I'm just a little

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Speaker 3: bit scared, yep.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough, it is a tough matchup that Bulldogs matchup.

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Speaker 1: Onto the front row. Payne Hearts eighty percent owned. Is

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Speaker 1: there any point going with anyone else here? He's just

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Speaker 1: so much better than anyone in that position. Now that

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Speaker 1: Terrell May is obviously not in the finals, So Payne

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Speaker 1: Hearts is the guy. Don't over complicate it, just go there.

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Speaker 3: I do think he is the guy, and I've sort

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Speaker 3: of just locked him in for now as well, but

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be going Adam fanil Blake. I think he

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Speaker 3: has a lot of upside, but he basically needs to

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Speaker 3: score a try or to to get to.

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Speaker 2: That really really high output.

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Speaker 3: And Joe Tap as well. I think is similar in

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Speaker 3: flaw to pay Hears, but I think pay Hears is

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Speaker 3: just a bit more consistent. And so, yeah, like you said,

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Speaker 3: don't over complicated, just just lock him half.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I like the idea of going with a

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Speaker 1: few pods in this game, and you have to as

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Speaker 1: you said, but don't take on pain hass.

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Speaker 2: Just lock on to second row. This is a really

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Speaker 2: tough position.

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Speaker 1: So we've got Hudson Young and Eli Katoa are about

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Speaker 1: even in the mid thirty percentages, and then a whole

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Speaker 1: bunch of guys under that, like Preston Grant. I think

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Speaker 1: Angus Crichton is a really good pod. If the Roosters,

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Speaker 1: who have a pretty good matchup, can get some attacking stats.

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Speaker 2: It's tough for me.

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Speaker 1: I've got Hudson Young at the moment just because he

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Speaker 1: hasn't been in great for him recently, but I still

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Speaker 1: think he is the best attacking forward statistically in the NROL.

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Speaker 1: Right now, and he's coming up against the worst defense

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Speaker 1: of the top four in the Broncos.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is a position that could potentially

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Speaker 3: be a good position to go with a POD. But

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Speaker 3: I've also just locked.

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Speaker 2: In Hudson Young for now.

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Speaker 3: I think the Broncos defense in the last month has

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Speaker 3: conceded a lot of points, and I think Hudson Young

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Speaker 3: could be in for a big game. So I'm just

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Speaker 3: going with with Young at the moment. But there are

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Speaker 3: some other good guys that you could go with, like

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Speaker 3: Jacob Preston, Aaron Clark, Angus Crichton has been a bit

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Speaker 3: inconsistent lately but could be in for big one, or

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Speaker 3: even like i Ao. So there is a bunch of

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yo's big game history has me very tempted on him.

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Speaker 1: Ellie Katowa, I would definitely lock him in if it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think Jerome Hughes being out is a

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Speaker 1: Everyone's on Nathan Cleary basically seventy eight percent owned, so

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Speaker 3: So no, And like we were talking about before, I

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Speaker 3: think for your starter you've just got a lock in

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Speaker 3: we said before, I think there's a lot of upside

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Speaker 3: I think I think you've just got to stick with Cleary.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, And he's probably my captain as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeh. No, Adam Reynolds, of course, big news in the

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Speaker 1: of cause no Jerome Hughes as well, So halfback is

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Speaker 1: actually looking pretty thin for Super Coach Finals. On to

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Speaker 2: And no matter if he plays bad.

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Speaker 1: And throws you know, four or five errant passes, which

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Speaker 1: he tends to do almost every week, it's not about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's just a bit too much risk there.

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Speaker 1: So Senewing is where it's absolutely wide open. You've got

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Speaker 2: Having said that, I don't know if I've.

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Speaker 1: Ever seen a winger so involved in a team's attack,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's working so well for them, so

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Speaker 3: It's hard to tell. Thirty five percent owned is probably

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Nick mean he's a guy we've mentioned Ryan,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he definitely has a lot of upside.

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Speaker 3: I think I prefer the upside of someone like normally

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Speaker 2: I think the.

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Speaker 1: Exactly the offloading king of the NRL, as David Ricchio

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Speaker 1: I'd love to see him on the wing, And if

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Speaker 1: Absolutely at fallback, you've got Toesco sixty seven percent zero,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely agree. I've actually gone with Reese Walsh

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Speaker 3: it all just depends what I decide to do with

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Speaker 1: what are you think?

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Speaker 3: I think the match I really want to target is

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Speaker 3: the Warriors Panthers clash. I think the Panthers. The Warriors

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Speaker 3: are just they're sort of limped into finals and they're

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Speaker 3: just going to go big. So I think Nathan Cleary

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Speaker 3: I think you definitely need to go with someone who's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Captain c is triple points. As we mentioned before,

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Speaker 1: there's no real loophole, so your VC gets double, your

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Speaker 2: And Cleary is captain.

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Speaker 1: Walsh's captain is kind of tempting me as if I

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Speaker 3: It's tempting, but it's also terrifying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean he's killing it every week and

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Speaker 1: he's got sepersacky back, so yeah, I don't hate it

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Speaker 1: at all. Well, that's our first ever podcast for Super

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