WEBVTT - Danica De Giorgio | 22 February 0:00:01.600 --> 0:00:04.760 Live on Sky News Australia. 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:07.320 This is Denika to Georgio. 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:12.080 Hello Andrew, Welcome to the program coming up tonight, Vale 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:16.480 of Secrecy Labor reportedly involved in meetings dating back months 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:20.080 to repatriate the ISIS brides. Wait until you hear Tony 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:23.840 Burke's latest spin. I'll unpack this and the PM's denials 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:27.639 that mass immigration is an issue with liberal Tony Pasen. 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:31.320 The King further embroiled in the Andrew saga as calls 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:34.520 grow for Australia to become a republic in the wake 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:37.880 of the former Prince's arrest and Donald Trump slaps a 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:40.680 fifteen percent tariff on the world. 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:42.160 What does this mean for US? 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:46.559 Economist Leith van Onslin will explain, but first tonight, A 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.440 lot has been said this week about Pauline Hanson, the. 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.680 Left having a field day, calling her racist and so on. 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:57.160 Now, whatever you think about the comments she made on 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:00.320 this channel last week, one thing about the One Nation 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:04.319 leader is her consistency on issues like mass migration and 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:08.679 migrants respecting our values. Yet the left want to cancel 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:13.400 her case in point Senator Fatima Payment now have a 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:16.440 listen to her comments about Pauline Hanson last night. 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:20.080 Our Pauline Hanson that if she doesn't like Hawthens are 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:23.880 here in Australia, then she can really pack her bags 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:26.639 and go to the US and continue being best buds 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:27.160 with Trump. 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:30.360 Now, this is where Fatima and the left in general 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:33.240 have got it all wrong. Right now, in my view, 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:37.880 multiculturalism has failed in this country. It wasn't always this way, 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:41.160 and I'm pro migration. I'm the granddaughter of migrants, but 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:43.959 in my view it has to be tightly controlled with 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:48.720 strict checks and balances and restrictions from terrorist hotspots. But 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:51.240 the problem right now is when the door is left 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:55.040 open to people whose values are incompatible with ours, the 0:01:55.160 --> 0:02:00.559 multiculturalism experiment fails. A harmonious society of cultures is a myth, 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.680 and I'm not talking about all cultures. I'm talking about 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:06.120 those who do not fit in with a Western democracy. 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:08.200 Not all cultures are. 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:11.600 Created equal, and I could list countless examples of where 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:17.520 multiculturalism has failed. Hate preachers, weekly anti Israel protests, rye 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:21.840 anti Semitism, chance of globalized the Intofada, flags of terror 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:25.640 groups being waived, Jewish flags set a light, our national 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:29.640 monuments hijacked, and of course acts of terror. So what 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:33.959 on earth is fatima payment a migrant to this country 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:38.799 lecturing on this is how we do it in Australia. Well, 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:42.240 how we do it in Australia is we respect our values. 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:46.679 Immigrants come into this country to do it how we 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:50.799 do it, not the other way around. But unfortunately there 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:54.000 are some who have come here not to be Australian. 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:58.240 Yet fatima payment from Afghanistan, our country where women are 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:02.280 treated like dirt, is telling an Australian born woman to 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:03.160 leave the country. 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:04.639 Seriously. 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:07.000 I mean this is the same fadom of Payment who 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:10.680 claimed Iran was an incredible place for women. And the 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:14.760 thing is the left's narrative on migration right now is 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:18.320 in disarray. They're so desperate they actually want to lock 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:22.560 up Pauline Hanson again. The AFP has reportedly received reports 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:26.520 of crime over her comments about Muslims. Now, are we 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:29.440 about to witness the first test of Labour's hate speech laws? 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:31.600 What is a threshold? We don't know. 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:34.640 What does it mean for free speech? We don't know 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:38.560 Pauline Hanson's comments about Muslims. In my view, we're wrong. 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.600 The majority of Muslims live peacefully in this country and 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:44.360 it does take the focus off radical Islam, which is at. 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:47.440 The heart of the problem. But if Pauline Hanson. 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:50.360 Is about to be investigated, then we have blasphemy laws 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:53.360 on our hands and I'm concerned that we are going 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:56.119 the way of the UK, where people are being arrested 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:59.080 for saying things that the government does not like. The 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:02.160 PM was duck and weaving today on this on Sky News. 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:07.960 There's a separation here. Politicians were responsible for putting laws 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:11.360 in place. It's important that the authorities, who I have 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:15.080 confidence in be allowed to do their job. I'm not 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:20.480 a lawyer, nor am I in charge of fulfilling those laws. 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:25.000 I'll allow the appropriate authorities to engage. 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:27.000 Well, it was always going to be the problem. 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:30.920 There's no threshold, and in a time when Australia has changed, 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:34.960 particularly after October seven and even more since Bondai, the 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.599 two big parties have not caught up, and the common 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:42.000 denominator is mass migration. The Prime Minister was in full 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.479 gas light mode today claiming that there's no problem with 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:47.359 immigration from Islamic countries. 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:53.240 The Australian covenant is that if people have any prejudice 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:56.520 or hatred, it's left at the customs Hall when they 0:04:56.640 --> 0:05:01.760 arrive in Australia, and overwhelmingly Astralians show respect to each other. 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:08.080 Overwhelmingly Australians, regardless of which, what their faith is, who 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:11.760 they are, what their background is, we overwhelmingly live in 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:13.400 harmony in this country. 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.599 The problem is people who do not leave their hate 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:20.320 at the customs hall. Now, labour's led in more than 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:22.400 three thousand gardens with little to. 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:23.440 No security checks. 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:28.280 The majority of Gazans supported the October seven massacre it's 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:31.640 led in isis Brides. And that's not including this latest 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:33.320 cohort that could be headed our way. 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:37.120 And now the daughter of a sanctioned Iranian. 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:39.640 Military leader who acted as an advisor to the Ayatola 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:42.880 and has been accused of involvement in Tehran's nuclear and 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:48.279 ballistic missile programs was granted permanent residency. And that's despite 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:52.279 consistent warnings to the Albanese government. Yet the PM is 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:53.960 claiming that all is above board. 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:57.640 Do you think there are some countries where we could 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:02.240 take less people or consider checks as it appears the 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:04.000 oppositions consider type checks. 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:09.600 Andrew, this is something that politicians shouldn't be allowed to 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:11.800 say things that they know isn't true. 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:15.479 They know I agree with you on that that we have. 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:18.720 Well you need to hold them to account, Andrew, because 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:22.560 they know full well that we have checks on migration 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:24.040 in this country. 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.440 Well, clearly that's not the case. I mean I just 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:30.799 mentioned the Gazans and the PMS treating us like fools 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:33.240 so he can yet again pander to the Muslim vote. 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:34.880 So it's little wonder One. 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.359 Nation is now leading in the polls outpolling Labor and 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:39.880 the Liberal Party in Victoria. Have a look at this. 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.840 This is voting intentions. This is the first time it's 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:46.400 topped a poll across the country and in Victoria, of 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:50.280 all states, a Labor held Union stronghold, and it means 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:52.680 if an election were to be held today, it would 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:54.919 be a hung parliament there. And have a look at 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:57.359 this poll in today's Dally Telegraph. In terms of a 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:01.039 three party preferred measure which tracks can heeatitiveness between the 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:05.240 Coalition and One Nation, the opposition leader Angus Taylor has 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.080 a mountain to climb to claw back support to One Nation. 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:11.200 Labors well ahead on forty four percent One Nation on 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:14.280 twenty nine. That's two points ahead of the Coalition on 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:18.160 twenty seven. Senator Hanson is viewed more positively than both 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:21.920 Angus Taylor and Anthony Albanesi. And the One Nation's leader 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.680 net approval rating is at plus nine, so that's ahead 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:26.920 of the opposition leader on plus three and if you 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:30.040 look at the Prime Minister, he's down fifteen on his 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:32.800 net approval. So there's certainly a lot of work to 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.040 do to claw back those two million votes from One 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:37.440 Nation And I really do think the Coalition has a 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:39.960 real chance to get it right when it comes to 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:44.000 immigration policy, and under a conservative leader in Angus Taylor, 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:46.920 they may just get there. But as I said, Australia 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:49.480 has changed the mass migration myth. 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:51.520 It doesn't bode well anymore. 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:57.120 It's time to face up to the facts. 0:07:57.680 --> 0:07:59.400 Now I mentioned there the Isis brides. 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:02.920 Much longer can Labour keep up the denials and the 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:06.640 facade that it has nothing to do with the repatriation 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:10.200 of these women. The Daily Telegraph has revealed that high 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:13.520 level briefings between the Federal government and New South Wales 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:17.400 agencies to repatriate the Isis brides have been going on 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:23.360 for months keyword there months. So the plans for the 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:27.240 cohort's return were far more advanced than what the Prime 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:31.280 Minister and Labor has been telling you this week they 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:34.120 are not receiving assistants to return to Australia and the 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:35.920 Australian Government will not assist them. 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:39.000 They made a choice to go to Syria. We won't 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:41.840 be repatriating them from Syria. 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:47.600 The government is providing no support for the repatriation of 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:49.160 these people. 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:54.160 Labour's known from the very beginning. A senior federal government 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:57.160 source told The Telegraph. I became aware of the meetings 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:01.040 in September and they have been primarily focused on reintegration 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:04.720 support and services such as specialist health and trauma care 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:05.720 for women and children. 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:07.880 There were also briefings. 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:11.080 On the management of ongoing risk assessments and monitoring for 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:14.280 these people in the community. This is why the government's 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:16.960 lack of transparency on this issue in the past week 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:21.560 has been completely unethical. They did know the group were 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:28.360 returning imminently. Look this absolutely squanders the suggestions by the 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:32.080 Prime Minister and Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke that Labor 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:36.120 had no involvement. And don't forget the revelations that two 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.960 women inside the ouroach camp. This is where the group 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:42.400 is staying in Syria, said via an encrypted messaging app 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:45.880 that eleven Australian women and twenty three children were told 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:49.120 in late January that they were quote likely to be 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:52.720 returning home. Both sources in the camp also confirmed the 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:59.320 women were being assisted by an Australian government delegate. So 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:02.040 where is the transparency from the minister? 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:05.319 Are you actively trying to stop them coming back? 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:05.480 Then? 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:08.360 Oh, we don't want them to come. 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:10.120 Back, but are you actively trying to stop them? 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:13.640 We're actively making sure we do nothing to help them, 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:15.520 nothing to help them at all. 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:20.840 Look, this is a disgrace, this is a scandal. Okay, 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:23.640 these are not all innocent women. Most left this great 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:26.520 country to join the death cult willingly, and now that 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:30.400 the jihadi romance hasn't quite gone to plan, they want 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:33.520 to come back here and live a peaceful life. And 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:37.560 Labour's first instinct is to help them out. Now what 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.600 does that tell you about how once again Muslim votes 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:45.400 are being put before safety and values. And only one 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:48.280 of this cohort has been given an exclusion order so far, 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.480 why not the rest of them? Well, if you ask 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:52.960 the Home Affairs Minister. 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:57.360 We know the different individuals, We. 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:00.760 Know them well, g to, I know a lot of 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:03.400 people too, but none of whom have gone overseas to 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:06.600 join a terror group, and none of them have even 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:09.719 had formal interviews from security authorities. 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:14.040 Why can't they go and interview them? I mean, from 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:16.400 what you're saying, it sounds like they're monitoring their communications 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:19.120 and collecting what information they can. Wouldn't it be better 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:20.960 to sit down with each of them before giving them 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:22.000 a passport to come home? 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:25.200 Or at the moment we're not sending officials in there? 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:28.120 Why not? Because if there's a risk of them coming back, 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:29.920 and they do pose any sort of risk, wouldn't it 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:30.720 be better to send. 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:33.320 A I think I've just gone through the extent to 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:36.439 which we have knowledge of these individuals, knowledge. 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:38.440 But interviewing them, Like, why not interview them? 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:41.560 Well, we had people there on the ground earlier, we 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:45.079 have continued to track these individuals the whole way through. 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:48.120 It doesn't fill you with a lot of hope when 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:51.319 they haven't even been interviewed. My colleague Sharry marks And 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:54.599 reported last week that the last time interviews were conducted 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:58.040 with the ISIS cohort of thirty four individuals was back 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:02.120 in twenty twenty two, and that was confirmed by Burke 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:05.640 this morning when asked why he's so confident that they 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:06.640 don't pose a threat. 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:12.920 They are not a coherent cohort. The cohort is not consistent. 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:17.400 There are very different people within that cohort, with different 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:21.120 histories and different states of mind. If I put it 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:24.079 in those terms, they are quite different. 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:27.840 I could not give a toss about the women's history, 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:30.520 nor could I care about their state of mind. That 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:34.720 is not the threshold for minimum level security in this country. 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:36.480 Are we seriously. 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:39.160 Basing it off the level of coherency of a person? 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.680 And the Opposition has again raised concerns. 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:46.280 These are people who left our country, a prosperous, peaceful, 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.560 liberal democracy to go and join. 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:50.200 Isis that every one of. 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:52.360 Them should face charges if they ever find their way 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:54.720 back home, But frankly, the priority should be keeping them. 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:56.760 Offshore where they can do no harm to. 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.559 Australia and labours handed them passports. 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:03.079 Sure might be citizens, but the Passport Act is very clear. 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:06.320 It says a passport can be denied if someone might 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:11.160 prejudice the security of Australia. Now, surely these women meet 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:16.280 that threshold of the eleven Nazarene's Zaha brother claims that 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:20.600 she unknowingly went to Syria, but still married an ISIS 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:24.679 fighter who was later sentenced to death. Samaya Zahab, whose 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:27.719 brother joined ISIS and was killed in an airstrike, He 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.640 was believed to have encouraged several relatives to follow him 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:34.600 to Syria. Then there's Kirsty ross Emily, whose Moroccan born 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:39.839 husband was stripped of his Australian citizenship. And Zara Ahmad, 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:43.760 who told the ABC that once male relatives align themselves 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:47.280 with Islamic state, the women felt compelled to follow. She 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:51.720 married a terror recruiter as well. Now it's not about 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:55.480 their circumstances, it's about who we are bringing in. Tony 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:58.760 Burke has denied the Daily Telegraphs report that Labor has 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:01.520 been involved in conduct repatriation efforts. 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:03.400 Well, if that's the case. 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:07.280 Labor has to come clean about what it knew, when 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:10.880 it knew, and what it has been up to behind 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:16.120 the scenes to help out and key why, I mean, 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.640 after everything that's happened in this country, after the largest 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:22.120 terror attack on home soil, a little girl among those. 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:24.720 Murdered, Labor just doesn't get it. 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:27.840 So good luck trying to convince me that bringing ISIS 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:34.520 brides back home is a great idea. Let's bring in 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.280 liberal MP now Tony Passon, Tony good to catch up. 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:39.640 As always, thanks for joining me. Firstly, I just want 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:42.680 to get your reaction to these revelations that Labor briefed 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:46.040 state agencies on the return of Isis brides and how 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:48.720 contradictory is it to what we've been hearing from Labor 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:49.280 all week. 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:53.680 Well, the Naker, like you, I think it's scandalous and 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:56.240 I think this story has a lot further to run. 0:14:57.360 --> 0:14:59.600 What we're now seeing is Labour trying to talk out 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:03.560 of both sides. It's for its mouth on this issue. 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:07.200 At the as kind as I can be, we've got 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:10.600 a government that's currently indifferent about the return of these 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:13.760 Arsist brides. I don't want a government that's indifferent about 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:17.240 their return. I want a government using every single power 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:21.520 at its disposal to ensure these women who left this 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:26.240 country to join jihad don't come back. They can use 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:31.120 the Passports Act, but quite frankly, every single arm of 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:34.600 government should be focused on ensuring Australians are kept safe, 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:37.800 and part of that is for these individuals never to 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:40.400 return home or thirty four of them. 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:42.400 Absolutely, I couldn't agree more. 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:45.400 And the other thing is Tony Burke admitted today that 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:48.320 they have not been interviewed since twenty twenty two and 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.960 that security officials won't be going back there to interview them. 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:53.960 I mean, it doesn't really fill you with any hope, 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:54.520 does it. 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:58.440 Well, that's my point. If you were genuine in your 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.800 desire to ensure these viduals don't return, you would send 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:06.080 officials to go and interview these women and get as 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:09.760 much detail and information as we can to ensure that 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:13.800 were they to return. Noting that we are doing I 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:16.240 would hope we're doing this to ensure they can't. But 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:19.760 were they to return, that they face the full force 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:22.320 of the law. I mean that's a classic example of 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:25.480 this indifference. It's like all k and no responsibility. Oh well, 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:28.440 if they come home, that's fine, we'll deal with them then. 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:32.280 I mean that is the reason why more and more 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:36.000 Australians have a losing faith in this government and its 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:37.480 decision making. Yeah. 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:41.160 Look absolutely, and in the end, they left here willingly. 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:43.360 They knew what they were doing when they left this 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:45.560 great country to go and join that death cult. So 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:48.960 you can't convince me that this is a wonderful idea 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:49.760 to bring. 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:50.280 These women back. 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:54.120 I've got no sympathy for any of them I mentioned 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.800 just before as well. The Prime Minister has also downplayed 0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:01.560 immigration concerns, especially from Islamic country. Now, I personally think 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:04.880 Tony that immigration is an acute voat driving issue. I mean, 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:07.280 Labour's letting more than one point one million migrants into 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:09.879 the country. It's not also about how many, it's about 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:13.320 where they're from. We've seen three thousand gardens come here 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:17.360 with little to security checks. But why do you think 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:19.840 that the Prime Minister is so desperate to play down 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:22.680 the immigration concerns. 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.480 Well because of his track record. I mean the reality 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:29.960 is on his watch we've seen record levels of migration 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:32.560 and I've got to say if he's downplaying the sentiment 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:37.640 that he's out there in community, more for him. Janiki, 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:42.520 your grandparents, by parents came to this country. They came 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:47.159 to make a contribution. They came to join Team Australia, 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:50.760 not checking the Hotel Australia. They share our values and 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:54.879 wanted to be part of this great country. And the 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:58.200 reality is there is a whole cohort of people who 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:01.200 are coming to this country who now don't share those 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:04.920 values and we need to ensure we have appropriate mechanisms 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:08.240 in place that such that people that do come to 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:11.240 this country understand that it is a great privilege. I mean, 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:14.879 Australian citizenship in my view, is the golden ticket and 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:19.600 we shouldn't just be giving it out. Willy Nearly Having 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:23.920 said that, Prime Minister needs to understand that the best 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:27.600 I think retail politician in the country right now, Peter Malenawskis, 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:31.600 understands the concern people have around this issue and he's 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:34.560 making it very clear that he's speaking directly to One 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:38.320 Nation voters because he's worried about the rise in sentiment 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:40.320 and support for that political party. 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:42.040 Well, I do actually want to ask you a question 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:44.840 on one Nation, but just back to migration, and you 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:47.240 do have a point on that. Earlier in the week 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:51.600 we saw a Susan Lee drafted up policy that she 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.480 was apparently got a release but never did, and had 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:57.760 restrictions on a certain amount of countries or people coming 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:02.040 from parts of countries, particularly terrorism hotspots. 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:04.760 Would you support. 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:10.480 A proposal like that, so a ban on certain regions. 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:13.000 Janeka, I don't think this should be based on geography. 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:16.439 I think this should be based on values. Now, of course, 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:20.280 I think when individuals are coming from particular hotspots, I 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:23.719 think you nearly really need to ramp up the checking 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:26.200 to ensure that people who are coming to this country 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:29.679 share our values. They for example, respect the rule of 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:36.160 law and are prepared to buy into Western civilization if 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:40.040 you like. But geography I don't think should be the test. 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:42.680 I think it should be values. People coming with the 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:46.879 right attitude, the right aptitude. I'm open to the idea 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:51.159 that we might have waiting periods that give us the 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:54.679 opportunity to make those assessments. And of course anyone who 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:58.080 doesn't meet the requisite standard they can check out of 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:01.760 Hotel Australia as soon as we can make that happen. 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:04.040 But how do you test for that? How can you 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:06.280 really judge a person's values? 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:10.080 Well, this is something that we'll need to work through 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:13.040 the detail of Jamaka, because this is an important element 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:17.479 of where as I understand it, Angus Taylor wants to 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.399 take us. But like I said, I'm not suggesting that 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:24.439 geography is irrelevant. Obviously, where there are these hotspots, there 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:28.520 will need to be a greater degree of scrutiny. But 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:33.200 I really do think you can't simply tar one geographical 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:37.560 area completely with the one brush. I mean, that's not 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:40.560 a values based system, and we need to ensure that 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:44.640 we're operating a values based system because I think the 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:46.680 mistake that's been made in the past is we've allowed 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:48.760 people come to this country who don't share our values, 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:52.359 who don't want to buy in, who don't understand that 0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:55.199 the quid pro quo here is you come to make 0:20:55.240 --> 0:21:02.080 a contribution as opposed to come and receive. So I 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:04.920 think we'll need to work through the criteria. It's difficult, 0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:07.960 it's devilishly difficult, but we will need to get those 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:11.280 settings right because it's only by doing that that we 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:17.119 can ensure we can create that cultural cohesion that we 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:19.200 long for and that perhaps we had in the eighties 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:19.800 and nineties. 0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:22.240 Yeah, yeah, and yeah post World War Two, I would 0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:25.680 say dating back that far as well, just very quickly 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:27.840 on One Nation there was that Poland in the Daily 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:30.520 Telegraph today. So in terms of a three party preferred measure, 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:35.200 this tracks competitiveness between the Coalition and One Nation. It 0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:37.639 suggests that the Opposition leader Angus Taylor has a mountain 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:41.399 to climb to claw back support from One Nation. Labors 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:43.760 well ahead there one nation twenty nine percent. The Coalition 0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:46.639 they're on twenty seven percent. You've got a lot of 0:21:46.640 --> 0:21:50.439 work to do, Tony between now and the next election. 0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:53.879 How do you do that? Well, you're right. 0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:56.119 The election of the new leader has brought us to 0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:58.600 the bottom of the mountain and we need to climb it. 0:21:58.720 --> 0:22:00.639 The way we do it is we earned a Liberal 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:06.520 Party back into a policy will create a set of 0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:09.320 policies that meet the needs of the Australian people, but 0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:13.679 more importantly reflect traditional conservative liberal values. I mean, I 0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:16.920