Speaker 1: Why on Sky News. This is Sharry.
Speaker 2: Good Evening. Welcome to the show tonight. The Quanta scandal
Speaker 2: engulfing the Prime Minister could.
Speaker 3: Get a whole lot worse.
Speaker 2: I have breaking news in a moment on a bid
Speaker 2: to recall Alan Joyce to answer questions about the business
Speaker 2: class upgrades for his good mate.
Speaker 3: Full coverage tonight.
Speaker 2: The Queensland Labor Party has been booted from office, but
Speaker 2: there's one political party even more upset than Labor. More
Speaker 2: on that with My Political panel Cameron Milner and David Gazzard.
Speaker 2: Later also tonight, how Israeli female fighters took on the
Speaker 2: misogynistic I had told ers of Iran and won. I'll
Speaker 2: explain how this was one of the most sophisticated and
Speaker 2: complex military feats of our time. Plus the cousin of
Speaker 2: a nineteen year old hostage, Nama Levi, is on the
Speaker 2: show tonight. She's still trapped in guys at Time tunnels,
Speaker 2: yet SBS dared to censor his interview where he fights
Speaker 2: to bring her home. Our expose on the Public Broadcaster continues,
Speaker 2: but first tonight. In breaking news, former Quantis chief executive
Speaker 2: Alan Joyce is set to be horn in front of
Speaker 2: a Senate inquiry to detail the free upgrades he gave.
Speaker 3: His mate Anthony Alberzi.
Speaker 2: This has become a massive scandal, Albanezi personally requesting twenty
Speaker 2: two free upgrades, including on a flight with his son
Speaker 2: from Sydney to Rome, that gift around ten thousand dollars. Collectively,
Speaker 2: the twenty two free upgrades would be worth.
Speaker 3: Tens of thousands of dollars.
Speaker 2: These special privileges were given to the PM dating back
Speaker 2: to his time as Transport Minister in the Rudd and
Speaker 2: Gillard governments, and it leads to questions about the decisions
Speaker 2: he's made over the years that benefited Quantus over rival airlines.
Speaker 2: Journalist Joe Aston has exposed a web of influence, alleging
Speaker 2: that Alan Joyce was basically Albanesi's personal travel agent.
Speaker 4: When the man regulating your own industry deciding which airlines
Speaker 4: can fly into Australia and how often if he wants
Speaker 4: a free upgrade, what are you going to do? If
Speaker 4: Anthony Alberanezi had called the CEO WESPAC or A and
Speaker 4: Z and said, could you please put fifty thousand dollars
Speaker 4: in my account? Would that be okay? I have this
Speaker 4: weird thing where if you ask for a flight upgrade,
Speaker 4: it's not a bribe or you know, it can't be
Speaker 4: perceived as a potential conflict of interest, but there's a
Speaker 4: financial value to it.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's an excellent point and Joe Aston will be
Speaker 2: on my show tomorrow night.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 2: Our National's leader in the Senate, Bridget McKenzie told me
Speaker 2: today that given this new information, she is now investigating
Speaker 2: Alan Joyce to the Senate Inquiry to answer questions about
Speaker 2: these revelations. The accusation is that Albinizi may have put
Speaker 2: his own interests ahead of Australia's interests. He's denied rival
Speaker 2: International airlines more flights into Australia, but this would have
Speaker 2: brought down airfares. Joyce has become one of the most
Speaker 2: disliked executives in corporate Australia. As you know, he supported
Speaker 2: the Voice with Quantas giving around three hundred and seventy
Speaker 2: thousand dollars and as you recall, Alan Joyce held this
Speaker 2: press conference alongside alber Easy and we know that.
Speaker 6: This will make it a big difference and a step
Speaker 6: in the right direction for reconciliation.
Speaker 7: In this country.
Speaker 6: So now can I call on the Prime Minister of Australia,
Speaker 6: the Honorable Antony alban Easy to say a few words.
Speaker 3: Take it.
Speaker 2: While Alan Joyce was supporting his mate's pet project. We
Speaker 2: all had no idea just how cozy their relationship was.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: Quanta's offers Chairman's Lounge membership to all politicians, to judges, executives,
Speaker 2: celebrities and senior public servants, but Albanesi had special access.
Speaker 2: Joyce organized for his son to have chairman's lounge access,
Speaker 2: a gift that Albanesi reportedly didn't declare in the Pecuniary
Speaker 2: Interest Register. Joe Asen says, I'm not saying now that
Speaker 2: there is an established causation between Albanesi getting a chairman's
Speaker 2: membership for his son and Qatar Airways, for example, being
Speaker 2: blocked from flying more.
Speaker 3: Frequently into Australia.
Speaker 2: But what it does do is raise a lot of questions.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: Albanzi at first refused to take questions about all of this.
Speaker 2: On Saturday, he only wanted international questions, and then.
Speaker 3: He quickly ended his press conference, and.
Speaker 2: Then yesterday he just couldn't avoid speaking about it because
Speaker 2: it has become a major political issue. Instead, he played
Speaker 2: the victim. He claimed his family was being targeted.
Speaker 6: I think that people's families shouldn't be the subject of targeting.
Speaker 2: Well, that's just nonsense. This is a public interest story.
Speaker 2: As I said, Joe Aston.
Speaker 3: Will be on the show tomorrow.
Speaker 2: But it's like groundhog Day with labor ministers having to
Speaker 2: defend the Prime Minister yet again, first over his cliff
Speaker 2: top mansion, now over flight upgrades.
Speaker 8: Well, let's go to the heart of the matter. Has
Speaker 8: the Prime Minister complied diligently, transparently, consistently about declaring any upgrades. Yes,
Speaker 8: he has, And I know from personal experience that the
Speaker 8: Prime Minister is a fundamental believer in transparency.
Speaker 9: It's appropriate that the arrangements are robust. I know that
Speaker 9: the Prime Minister was asked about this, I think multiple
Speaker 9: times yesterday and his press conference. I don't have anything
Speaker 9: to add to it.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's any surprise that in the role
Speaker 1: of Transport and Infrastructure Ministry you'd be traveling a lot.
Speaker 2: Coalition MPs weren't buying these excuses, and Peter Darton said
Speaker 2: Albin Easy had questions to answer.
Speaker 10: Sometimes there are oversights and the rest of it. There's
Speaker 10: human error involved. But when you're talking about having a
Speaker 10: personal phone call to ask for an upgrade as the
Speaker 10: Transport Minister or the shadow Transport Minister. I presume the
Speaker 10: Prime Minister is going to answer questions about that I'm
Speaker 10: in strange arrangements when you can pick the phone up
Speaker 10: to the CEO and ask is the Transport Minister for
Speaker 10: an upgrade?
Speaker 2: This is all a question of integrity. Most Australians struggled
Speaker 2: to afford even an economy airfare. They'd never be able
Speaker 2: to afford the luxury of business class.
Speaker 3: It's out of our reach. Can Albanezi truly be.
Speaker 2: Impartial when it comes to making decisions about quantus when
Speaker 2: he's been getting tens of thousands of dollars worth.
Speaker 3: Of free upgrades to business Class.
Speaker 2: The revelation puts the decisions he made as Transport Minister
Speaker 2: and as Prime Minister under a cloud and aside from
Speaker 2: the integrity issues, which are the most important. But aside
Speaker 2: from the integrity issues, this revelation is also politically lethal.
Speaker 2: Alban Easy took care to curate a self image of
Speaker 2: a housing commissioned boy who made it, but now the
Speaker 2: perception is cementing of a long term polly enjoying the
Speaker 2: perks of public office.
Speaker 3: Former Labor State.
Speaker 2: Secretary Cameron Milner, he's going to be on my show tonight,
Speaker 2: and he writes in The Nightly that.
Speaker 3: Alban Ezy would have voters believe.
Speaker 2: That twenty eight years of being in Parliament brings judgment
Speaker 2: and experience. But in stout, Albertezi looks like he's been
Speaker 2: wallowing in the freebies all while sucking down hard on
Speaker 2: the teat of the taxpayer. Free Taylor Swift tickets, free
Speaker 2: Grand Final tickets, free flight upgrades. That's before he had
Speaker 2: access to his own plane, which he's dubbed Toto I
Speaker 2: after his dog, and now also a clifftop mansion where
Speaker 2: AE hundred million dollars of taxpayer funds.
Speaker 3: Will upgrade the road that leads to it.
Speaker 2: If this all sounds bad to us, imagine how Labor
Speaker 2: members are reacting to the revelations, along with families who
Speaker 2: were truly struggling to survive in this cost of living crisis.
Speaker 2: It's no wonder that Labor and PS have had enough
Speaker 2: of the embarrassing headlines their largest loving leader is bringing
Speaker 2: on the party. Now to the Middle East, Israel finally
Speaker 2: retaliated against Iran over the weekend, Saturday morning, our time.
Speaker 2: Young female fighters were part of Israel's assault on Iranian
Speaker 2: military targets. You can see them here on aircraft going
Speaker 2: into battle. The beauty of having young women fighting shoulder
Speaker 2: to shoulder with Israeli men as they launched strikes against
Speaker 2: the military sites of the misogynistic Iranian regime. A regime
Speaker 2: where the Ayatolas don't allow women to show their face
Speaker 2: they need to wear hijab headscarfs at all times, where
Speaker 2: women who protest, who dare to protest against this, have
Speaker 2: been beaten to death and executed, Where morality police enforce
Speaker 2: a strict interpretation of Sharia law, where women are often
Speaker 2: the victims of unjust violence. Even the United Nations admits
Speaker 2: that the Iranian government has only intensified its efforts to
Speaker 2: repress the rights of women. Well, the iyatolders would have
Speaker 2: despised seeing the Israeli defense forces release photographs of beautiful
Speaker 2: young women, their long hair visible not covered by hedge
Speaker 2: apps flying planes into battle. They were the pilots, and
Speaker 2: this operation was utterly extraordinary. Israel strikes in Iran haven't
Speaker 2: been fully understood for just how sophisticated they were, and
Speaker 2: for how they now lay the groundwork for future strikes
Speaker 2: on Iran's nuclear sites. Now, this was the first time
Speaker 2: that Israel had entered a thirtier country where it doesn't
Speaker 2: have a mutual border, and the challenge of doing this
Speaker 2: can't be underestimated.
Speaker 3: It's not like flying from Sydney to Canberra.
Speaker 2: Israel had to remove the threat between the airspace in
Speaker 2: between Israel and Iran from Syria and Iraq. As the
Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal reports, Israel had to take out air
Speaker 2: defenses in Syria and Iraq, clearing the way for its
Speaker 2: flight path to Iran. Secondly, Israel attacked Iran's air defenses
Speaker 2: so that they could.
Speaker 3: Then proceed unchallenged.
Speaker 2: And Thirdly, Israel struck keynodes in Iran's ballistic missile production
Speaker 2: and they hit a military target in Parshan, so they
Speaker 2: weren't just in Tehran, and in Parshan that's where Iran
Speaker 2: has worked on nuclear weapons.
Speaker 3: My understanding is that.
Speaker 2: The Israeli aircraft actually went into Iranian airspace. This is
Speaker 2: incredible courage from those young fighters, but also what a
Speaker 2: feat for Israel to pull this off with all planes
Speaker 2: returning home safely.
Speaker 3: They are truly heroes.
Speaker 2: Now we don't know for sure, but the working assumption
Speaker 2: is that Iran will now respond in some form.
Speaker 3: But Israel has.
Speaker 2: Shown that it has the means and the measure to
Speaker 2: severely attack Iran and successfully so, and it's learnt lessons
Speaker 2: for how to do so when it inevitably tackles the
Speaker 2: nuclear threat. But I have to say this, Iran poses
Speaker 2: a threat to all of us. The ballistic missiles that
Speaker 2: were fired towards Israel recently can reach nearly every capital
Speaker 2: in Europe, and if Iran is allowed to continue its
Speaker 2: development of nuclear capability, if it does develop a nuclear weapon,
Speaker 2: this could even reach us in Australia. This is the
Speaker 2: international community's responsibility to eliminate the nuclear threat from Iran.
Speaker 2: This shouldn't just be left for Israel to single handedly
Speaker 2: deal with.
Speaker 3: In another sign of just how.
Speaker 2: Weak Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are, they want Israel
Speaker 2: to stop fighting around and they seem content to allow
Speaker 2: Tehran to continue developing nuclear weapons. How else can you
Speaker 2: read their comments calling for de escalation after Israel strikes,
Speaker 2: It looks did anything.
Speaker 1: Out of the military target.
Speaker 11: I hope with this year, of course, we maintain the
Speaker 11: importance of supporting Israel's right to defend itself, and we
Speaker 11: are also very adamant that we must see de escalation
Speaker 11: in the region going forward. This war must end. We
Speaker 11: must get the hostages out and work toward a two
Speaker 11: state solution de escalation.
Speaker 3: My hope is this will end.
Speaker 2: It used to be America that was strong. The United
Speaker 2: States was the tough world leader dealing with terrorism and
Speaker 2: evil regimes. But not anymore. It seems the international community
Speaker 2: wants to turn a blind eye to Iran's nuclear development
Speaker 2: instead of supporting and joining Israel in the fight against
Speaker 2: Iran to protect all of us globally, the international community
Speaker 2: again calls for de escalation and cease fire at the
Speaker 2: precise time when Iran is at its most vulnerable, with
Speaker 2: its proxy terror groups on their knees and their air
Speaker 2: defenses taken down on the weekend. It's only a matter
Speaker 2: of time before America we'll have to wake up and
Speaker 2: deal with the nuclear threat. And it can't only be
Speaker 2: the Israeli Prime Minister Benjaminette and Yahoo battling this evil
Speaker 2: regime on behalf of the West. Right now, let's bring
Speaker 2: in tonight's panel Perth, Mayre, Basil, Zemplus and Sky News
Speaker 2: contributor Joe Hildebrand.
Speaker 3: Welcome to you both. I want to get your feedback
Speaker 3: on both of those topics.
Speaker 2: Let's start with the quantus scandal surrounding Anthony Albanisi.
Speaker 1: Joe.
Speaker 2: These twenty two upgrades that Albanezi received from Alan Joyce.
Speaker 2: We're hearing that not all of them were political trips,
Speaker 2: some were family holidays.
Speaker 3: I mean, as many.
Speaker 2: Coalition MPs said today, this doesn't pass the pup tests.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 12: I think the best you can say about this is
Speaker 12: that it happened a long time ago. It's clearly not
Speaker 12: a good look. It comes obviously on the back of
Speaker 12: the more recent and actual, in real time purchase of
Speaker 12: the house in Copa Cabana on the New South Wales
Speaker 12: Central Coast. So I think Albo has to be much
Speaker 12: more careful about how he presents. He's got to understand
Speaker 12: that when the country is doing it tough, he has
Speaker 12: to be seen to be doing it tough. He's got
Speaker 12: to wear a hair shirt on behalf of the country,
Speaker 12: even though he himself may be very happy and in
Speaker 12: a love bubble with Jody. And that's fantastic, and that's great,
Speaker 12: and I'm genuinely happy for him, but when people are suffering,
Speaker 12: it's just simply not a good look. Even if the
Speaker 12: amounts of money, or even if in the case of
Speaker 12: the house thing it's completely immaterial, it doesn't affect the
Speaker 12: rest of it. But you know, in politics, perception is everything.
Speaker 12: The good news is in terms of the housing I
Speaker 12: understand that the government is not going to touch negative
Speaker 12: gearing and that is something real and tangible that we
Speaker 12: should all be that homeowners should be grateful for and
Speaker 12: renters as well because it will encourage investment. But for
Speaker 12: this stuff to come up is obviously not a good
Speaker 12: look and hopefully the government and ALBO will be able
Speaker 12: to put it behind them and move on to more
Speaker 12: substantial things.
Speaker 2: I mean, as I said at the start, their basil,
Speaker 2: this is an integrity issue and we know that the
Speaker 2: Albanezy government blocked Qatar Airways bids for more flights to
Speaker 2: come into Australia at the time.
Speaker 3: This would have lowered the airfares that there.
Speaker 2: Are such an extraordinary high airfares at the moment, So
Speaker 2: there are questions of an integrity nature here for the
Speaker 2: Prime Minister to answer.
Speaker 1: Well, by the actions of the Prime minister, that's why
Speaker 1: we have those questions of integrity, and clearly that press
Speaker 1: conference with Joyce and the Prime Minister one after the
Speaker 1: other speaking it does look like a cozy relationship and
Speaker 1: a couple of questions. I mean, it was an extraordinary
Speaker 1: amount of flying that the Prime Minister was doing, albeit
Speaker 1: all declared occasionally, I have had an upgrade, and good
Speaker 1: luck to anyone who gets an upgrade. We celebrate that
Speaker 1: person that gets called forward and gets bumped up the front.
Speaker 1: But it seems like the Prime Minister was getting one
Speaker 1: for every single flight that he was taking. That's not normal.
Speaker 1: The other thing is did the Prime Minister's son deserve
Speaker 1: the chairman's lounge membership? Now he may well have. He
Speaker 1: may have had enough going on in his own career
Speaker 1: that he deserved it, But I guess I'd say this
Speaker 1: as well. Just imagine, just imagine it was one of
Speaker 1: Scott Morrison's children when he was Prime Minister, albeit a
Speaker 1: little younger. But imagine if it was Scott Morrison's child
Speaker 1: who had the Quantus Chairman's Lounge membership. Imagine what people
Speaker 1: would be saying.
Speaker 2: Men exactly, I don't think anyone at twenty two years
Speaker 2: old could.
Speaker 3: Say that they have had a career warrants.
Speaker 12: Certainly, the lounges I was in when I was twenty
Speaker 12: years old are very very different to the Chairman's lounge.
Speaker 12: They were much much tingier and smokier, and.
Speaker 3: Let's hope it sure they were, Joe.
Speaker 2: But just quickly, before we get to the Queenside election,
Speaker 2: I want to ask your thoughts and what I had
Speaker 2: to say about how the urine around nuclear threat does
Speaker 2: affect all of us around the world, and yet it's
Speaker 2: Israel who's having to deal with it.
Speaker 3: At the moment.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 12: I can certainly understand why you would want to see
Speaker 12: some kind of, you know, as much sort of prestrision
Speaker 12: as you can muster when it comes to civilian casualties
Speaker 12: in Gaza or in Lebanon, Suden Lebanon. But going after
Speaker 12: Iranian military targets, I mean, that is just Luke Skywalker
Speaker 12: versus Darth Vader. That is the simplest moral decision anyone
Speaker 12: could possibly make. The Fact that Israel is even able
Speaker 12: to do this is, as you said, just phenomenal. And
Speaker 12: the fact they're able to do this to hit only
Speaker 12: military targets in Iran and come back out again I mean,
Speaker 12: there is absolutely no possible good cause, no possible decent purpose,
Speaker 12: that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard will ever be put to.
Speaker 12: They have been a despotic, theocratic, theocratic, fascist dictatorship ever
Speaker 12: since the nineteen seventy nine revolution, and anything you can
Speaker 12: do to harm their power is a good thing for
Speaker 12: all of humankind. So I don't see how anyone could
Speaker 12: have moral qualms about.
Speaker 3: It, exactly.
Speaker 2: All right, let's turn to the Queensland election results. And
Speaker 2: as you know, David Chris Ifaley has officially been sworn
Speaker 2: in as Queensland's premiere.
Speaker 3: Now on Saturday night.
Speaker 2: We saw Stephen Miles claim that the L and P
Speaker 2: would struggle to form a majority, That's what he said,
Speaker 2: and yet they've done just that. At the latest count
Speaker 2: the LNP has won fifty one seats to Labour's thirty three,
Speaker 2: and we're expecting LL ANDP to get to fifty three seats,
Speaker 2: So Labour lost thirteen seats.
Speaker 3: This is not a quick result.
Speaker 2: The Catters will have three seats. Independence and Greens just
Speaker 2: won and at this point seventy percent around there votes
Speaker 2: have been counted. Now, Basil, what do you make of
Speaker 2: this spend that the L andp didn't do so well
Speaker 2: given they have one with a governing majority.
Speaker 1: It was an unbelievable rewriting of history on the run,
Speaker 1: wasn't it. In fact, history hadn't even been written, and
Speaker 1: it was being rewritten before we got there. Extraordinary from
Speaker 1: the premiere as he was at that moment with a
Speaker 1: concession speech that forgot just one thing, and that was
Speaker 1: the concession. But the really damning blow, I thought, was
Speaker 1: or to go with that information which was clearly at
Speaker 1: worst in the balance, at best, just a flat out
Speaker 1: lie to say they cannot form a majority government. Outrageous.
Speaker 1: Hold your speech until you know whether that is in
Speaker 1: play or not or so we don't know with any
Speaker 1: certainty as yet. Tomorrow we might know, but look, writing
Speaker 1: is incredible. They have an eighteen seventeen sixteen seat majority
Speaker 1: over the Labor Party. That's a big victory in anybody's book.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what I am running soon. If
Speaker 1: I got that sort of victory, that would do me
Speaker 1: every day of.
Speaker 3: The week, one one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: And I've always said, I think we can end up
Speaker 2: seeing you as as premier one day, Vasil, not just
Speaker 2: Lord mayor Joe. You know, Stephen Miles sees the leadership
Speaker 2: from anastagia Paliche, claiming that he would have a better
Speaker 2: chance of winning.
Speaker 3: Yet with this result, what do you think of that claim?
Speaker 12: Now, look, it's gone better than expected, but that doesn't
Speaker 12: tell you that it's gone well, or that Chris A
Speaker 12: fully the l and peperform badly. That just tells you
Speaker 12: how dire the expectations was. They thought it was going
Speaker 12: to be a repeat of the famous tirago where you
Speaker 12: could sit, you know, the entire ALP caucus around the
Speaker 12: kitchen table, and it wasn't that. And maybe that's an
Speaker 12: exercise in really good management of expectations. But Stephn Miles,
Speaker 12: you know, okay, say save the furniture, all right, find
Speaker 12: no problem. Now, he's got to get out of the way,
Speaker 12: allow the party an opportunity to reset and refresh. There
Speaker 12: is no way it's going to be competitive if you've
Speaker 12: still got him hanging around. It's clear that he is
Speaker 12: a handbrake on Labour's popularity. He's only there because he's
Speaker 12: got the backing of the left wing union.
Speaker 3: Do you think he should go now?
Speaker 7: Absolutely? Absolutely?
Speaker 12: I think him staying on his opposition leader as an
Speaker 12: incredible so you're not.
Speaker 3: Buying that he ran a good campaign. You're just not.
Speaker 12: I think the campaign was better than the absolute, you know,
Speaker 12: disaster that it could have been, and that's fine. But
Speaker 12: having done that, for him to then stay on and
Speaker 12: say no, I'm still going to keep the good is
Speaker 12: that is either incredibly naive or incredibly narcissistic. And for
Speaker 12: the sake of the party, for the good of the party,
Speaker 12: he needs to go, and he needs to go now
Speaker 12: and give another leader the chance to hit reset and
Speaker 12: try to bring the party back.
Speaker 2: All right, Joe who ad a brown Basil Zemplers, thank
Speaker 2: you both so much for yours. Now let's turn to
Speaker 2: the US presidential race, because it's about nine days to go.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump and Kamala Harris fighting to the finish line.
Speaker 2: The focus clearly on battleground states. We saw on the
Speaker 2: weekend that Kamala Harris continued.
Speaker 3: Her blitz in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump put on a splashy rally at Madison Square
Speaker 2: Garden in.
Speaker 3: New York, and let's bring you now for more analysis.
Speaker 3: Sky News contributor Kosher Gada.
Speaker 2: Kosher, Now, this was an interesting choice to have a
Speaker 2: rally in New York, and it certainly grabbed headlines. What
Speaker 2: were the takeouts for you and what's the strategy behind
Speaker 2: this decision?
Speaker 13: Great Vihari, you know, I think it's sort of psychology
Speaker 13: and optics were To me, it looks like the ultimate
Speaker 13: flex or. It's a microclosm of where the res and
Speaker 13: the dynamics of the restand as we sit here today,
Speaker 13: which is a team Trump is on offense. The other
Speaker 13: side seems to be on defense, trying to go and
Speaker 13: defend voter blocks that are typically very advantageous to Democrats,
Speaker 13: such as blacks and Hispanics and minorities and women versus
Speaker 13: here going into deep blue New York and just showing
Speaker 13: that offensive move. I think it's also about the lineup,
Speaker 13: and it shows the realignment that has happened. It's quite
Speaker 13: stunning in this campaign with RFK Junior, Chelsea Gabbard, doctor
Speaker 13: Phil who's his daytime talk show hosts, all sorts of
Speaker 13: people coming out. And I think the third thing is
Speaker 13: that it really is normalizing what it could mean to
Speaker 13: support Trump openly. These are people from other spheres of life,
Speaker 13: and it's just a big contrast to some of the
Speaker 13: framing on the other side of He's a fascist and
Speaker 13: Hilarian and all of that. I think that's what this
Speaker 13: was about, and just showing that they can, even though
Speaker 13: they will probably not win New York, they can fill
Speaker 13: up an arena of twenty thousand people in deep blue
Speaker 13: New York.
Speaker 2: Though it hasn't, of course, stopped the claims that Trump
Speaker 2: is a fascist, because now the Democrats are saying the
Speaker 2: fact that he held the rally at this place that
Speaker 2: once had hitless supporters somehow means Trump is the anime,
Speaker 2: even though they have been countless pop stars who've held
Speaker 2: events right in that space. I mean, it's completely ludicrous
Speaker 2: that claim.
Speaker 3: Now, over the.
Speaker 2: Weekend, we saw Michelle Obama come out and she had
Speaker 2: this bizarre line where she said that Donald Trump wasn't
Speaker 2: doing proper interviews, when in fact it's Kamala Harris who
Speaker 2: isn't sitting down for serious scrutiny.
Speaker 3: Apart from that one interview.
Speaker 2: With Brett Bayer and in fact, Donald Trump spent three
Speaker 2: hours on Joe Rogan's podcast. I'm sure everyone he has
Speaker 2: heard of him. If not, he's one of the most,
Speaker 2: if not the most popular podcasts internationally and certainly in
Speaker 2: the US. Let's have a listen to some of that interview.
Speaker 7: I picked some people that I shouldn't have picked. I
Speaker 7: picked a few people that I shouldn't have picked.
Speaker 13: And neo cohns, Yeah, Neo khans or.
Speaker 9: Bad people or disloyal people or people that were just
Speaker 9: people there people that advice, Yeah, I mean kosher.
Speaker 2: You can't hide yourself and three hour interview. You can't
Speaker 2: write learn answers. What did you think were the main
Speaker 2: revelations from that podcast?
Speaker 13: You know, it's interesting because Trump is probably the most
Speaker 13: famous human being on planet Earth by this point, and
Speaker 13: before he entered politics, he was already a very well
Speaker 13: known developer and media personality in the US. So the
Speaker 13: thing about the podcast format is it allows how do
Speaker 13: you take somebody like that that is so well known
Speaker 13: and everybody has an opinion about him, good, bad, or
Speaker 13: ugly and reveal a new layer or a new dimension.
Speaker 13: And very few mediums can do that, certainly cable TV
Speaker 13: and presidential debates and even rallies that are more scripted, canned.
Speaker 13: And here, you know, he can bob and weave between
Speaker 13: different topics. He actually calls it the weave where they
Speaker 13: went from irrigation policy in Iowa to our space aliens
Speaker 13: correct or not to a cultural question about UFC and
Speaker 13: everything in between. And it just showed a lot of
Speaker 13: personality ability to just hold all sorts of details in
Speaker 13: his mind and have opinions about them. And again, I
Speaker 13: think to the earlier point, just come across as a normal, likable,
Speaker 13: conversational guy, which is in itself such a big deal
Speaker 13: given the way he's been framed for the better part
Speaker 13: of the last decade.
Speaker 2: Kochha, just before you go, can you give us an
Speaker 2: update of where the polls were sitting at the moment
Speaker 2: for both candidates.
Speaker 13: Still razor tight. There's a little bit of movement, a
Speaker 13: couple actually that were favorable to Kamla, but overall they're
Speaker 13: in the margin of error or Trump is up in
Speaker 13: all of them. I think at this point, along with Poles,
Speaker 13: you've got to look at the whole picture. Betting markets
Speaker 13: seemed to be heavily favoring Trump, battleground state polls and
Speaker 13: early voting seemed to be the momentumus with him. But
Speaker 13: nine days is a week in politics, and I think
Speaker 13: the bottom line is anything can still.
Speaker 3: Happen, all right.
Speaker 2: Indeed, Kosha Gata, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2: And we'll have full coverage of the US election every
Speaker 2: night on the show for the next week. Now after
Speaker 2: the break, if Labor had a bad Queensland election, it
Speaker 2: was goodbye to bad rubbish with the great So I'm
Speaker 2: going to speak about.
Speaker 3: This with Cameron Milner and David Gazard.
Speaker 2: Next plus is the Albanezi government seriously blaming Israel and
Speaker 2: Jews for our high inflation. James Patterson is coming up
Speaker 2: on the show and he lays into this outrageous and
Speaker 2: inaccurate claim. Don't miss his fiery interview. Welcome back, Well,
Speaker 2: plenty more to discuss. Let's bring in now Tonight's political panel,
Speaker 2: former Howard government advisor David Gazard and former chief of
Speaker 2: staff to Bill Sholton.
Speaker 3: Cameron Milner, welcome to you both.
Speaker 2: Well, let's return to Anthony Albanese's quantus saga. This is
Speaker 2: a scoundal that's just going to get bigger and bigger.
Speaker 3: As the week goes on. I've got Joe Aston on
Speaker 3: the show tomorrow night.
Speaker 2: Cameron, you've written another scathing article in The Nightly tonight
Speaker 2: about this very topic. Do you agree the perception is
Speaker 2: now cementing that the Prime Minister just likes sa freebie.
Speaker 14: Well it's this is a huge scandal because we all
Speaker 14: know he's been up for the free tickets, the free
Speaker 14: lunchers and everything else. But this is him actually getting
Speaker 14: personal benefit, personal benefit that we could actually monetize. We
Speaker 14: know how much a cost to get a ready deal
Speaker 14: on Quotas and how much a first class ticket to
Speaker 14: London costs, and that's what he was training. He was
Speaker 14: bringing up his personal agent, personal travel agent, who happened
Speaker 14: to be the CEO of Coutus, Alan Joyce, rang him
Speaker 14: up to get this arranged not once, but twenty two
Speaker 14: times at least that we already know about. So this
Speaker 14: was about personal benefit for him while he was a
Speaker 14: Transport minister, while he was the chief regulator of Quotas,
Speaker 14: holding other people out of the market and benefiting Quotas.
Speaker 14: This is a scandal, an absolute scandal. And the Albanese
Speaker 14: family with the Chairman's lounge everything else too, it's just
Speaker 14: continued on even after he's got Toto one sharing. So
Speaker 14: absolute scandal and a personal benefit to the Prime Minister
Speaker 14: as a crew here which we can monetary value.
Speaker 3: That's the problem, David.
Speaker 2: There's also the integrity issues, which is hi This is
Speaker 2: a matter of public interest because it raises questions about
Speaker 2: the decisions that Albanizi made that affected Quantas and other
Speaker 2: rival airlines, both when he was Transport Minister and Prime
Speaker 2: Minister David Gazzart.
Speaker 7: Yes, absolutely, and you've seen the Coalition starting to seize
Speaker 7: on this and they're making the very obvious point. Well,
Speaker 7: hang on a second. What was mentioned in your frequent
Speaker 7: discussions with Alan Joyce while you were Transport Minister. How
Speaker 7: did that relationship carry forward and how did that affect
Speaker 7: Quantison's status when Qatar was looking to enter the marketplace
Speaker 7: and what would have been the flow on benefits to
Speaker 7: the cost of airline tickets for every Australian Should there
Speaker 7: have been more competition in the sector. So suddenly it's
Speaker 7: Anthony Alberesi with his cliff top mansion, Anthony Alberesi with
Speaker 7: his upgrades, but everyone else paying higher prices for their
Speaker 7: airline fares in a cost of living crisis. So this
Speaker 7: is bad. I agree with kem on this. The other
Speaker 7: thing that sort of stuns me on this is this
Speaker 7: is the second bite at this story where his son
Speaker 7: as a member of the Quannis Lounge has been mentioned.
Speaker 7: He's still a member. I mean, most sensible politicians, were
Speaker 7: they to upgrade the significant other into the plus one status,
Speaker 7: would have said, look, sorry, Nathan, you're out of the
Speaker 7: Chairman's twenty two. Your chairman, you've been there for a while,
Speaker 7: but I'm sorry, it's all over. He's still there. St
Speaker 7: Anthony Albanezi has decided to keep pursuing the gravy train
Speaker 7: for his son's benefit. Just fight the views of Australian
Speaker 7: voters all the way through.
Speaker 2: That's utterly extraordinary and sure the cost of living crisis,
Speaker 2: go for it.
Speaker 3: Cameron, I was.
Speaker 14: Going to say, this is the absolute sense of entitled
Speaker 14: to this guy. I mean, twenty eight years in the
Speaker 14: Parliament and he can't see the conflict. Can't see the
Speaker 14: conflict here because it's all down to, as David said,
Speaker 14: his personal benefit, where the rest of us as consumers
Speaker 14: have to put up with.
Speaker 2: Contas yeah, and being on hold for hours at a
Speaker 2: time and then getting call centers and you can't.
Speaker 3: Get through it. It's canceled exactly.
Speaker 2: Not to mention the flight credits issue, I'll get stuck
Speaker 2: into that tomorrow night with Joe Aston. Now let's talk
Speaker 2: about the Greens result at the Queensland election.
Speaker 3: I mean the Greens thought.
Speaker 2: They were going to pick up a multiple more seats
Speaker 2: in a Brisbane.
Speaker 3: They ended up losing one of their two seats.
Speaker 2: This was humiliating Cameron and somehow Federal Green Green's leader
Speaker 2: Adam Bound is trying to blame labor for all of this.
Speaker 14: He should only look at his own backyard because he's
Speaker 14: no longer an environment party. He's a party of extremism,
Speaker 14: extremism on his lamb, and a disgusting anti Semitic party,
Speaker 14: and voters are onto them. Shari voters are onto them.
Speaker 14: They don't like what they say about Israel, they like
Speaker 14: what they say about Jews. And the Greens are an
Speaker 14: extreme political party and voters have rejected them. They voted
Speaker 14: against the me Act, They voted because in Queensland and
Speaker 14: even in the Melbourney Council elections day the Greens tanked.
Speaker 3: What do you think, David?
Speaker 2: Do you think the voters are just turning off the Greens.
Speaker 7: Look, their policies have been extremist and if you're going
Speaker 7: to run with the big dogs in the Fed Parliament,
Speaker 7: you've got to be able to stand on your own
Speaker 7: two feet. There's no point turning around and pointing at
Speaker 7: Anthony Alberanezi or others that have attacked them because their
Speaker 7: base is under threat by the Greens and saying, oh,
Speaker 7: it's all their fault. You have to go out and
Speaker 7: prosecute your own case. You've got to make the case
Speaker 7: as to why you've been blockading MP's officers and supporting
Speaker 7: the CFMU at the most despicable moment in that trade
Speaker 7: union's history. These are the things they've done. You've got
Speaker 7: to stand up and argue for your policies and if
Speaker 7: you let others define you, well, you've got no one
Speaker 7: to blame but yourselves.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: The Liberals, meanwhile, have launched an ad campaign warning voters
Speaker 2: about the risks of electing a tial's have a look.
Speaker 5: Since the last election till independent MP's have voted most
Speaker 5: of with the Greens, followed by Labor. Teal MP's voted
Speaker 5: with the Greens against tougher laws to stop criminals getting visas.
Speaker 5: Teal MPs want higher taxes, including on capital gains, housing
Speaker 5: and a higher GST. What would that mean for our economy?
Speaker 5: The next election will be close, with many commentators predicting
Speaker 5: a hung parliament. Are Labor Greens Teals minority government.
Speaker 2: Don't risk it, Cameron, this is the big question whether
Speaker 2: the support for the Teals is going to remain at
Speaker 2: the next federal election.
Speaker 14: What do you think, Well, I think we see at
Speaker 14: the state level the Teal voters come back, so certainly
Speaker 14: the Liberal vote is returning in those seats. Whether it
Speaker 14: will be enough is a question, and whether althey Albanies
Speaker 14: will do a dirty preference deal like you did last
Speaker 14: time to try to get Teals elected just so he
Speaker 14: can stay Prime Minister. Because Albo doesn't care if it's
Speaker 14: a minority government as long as he's PM. That's the
Speaker 14: price he wants to pay. And he's quite happy to
Speaker 14: see as many Greens as many Teals have the whippand
Speaker 14: over legislation, as long as he keeps the keys. So
Speaker 14: the lodge and obviously the phone called Alan Joyce Andancotas.
Speaker 3: David, how are you reading this?
Speaker 2: I mean you were formerly very senior in John Howard's office.
Speaker 2: A lot of the Teal vote initially was because people
Speaker 2: didn't want to support Scott Morrison ahead of the last election.
Speaker 2: So do you think there might be some who don't.
Speaker 3: Get back in.
Speaker 7: Look, this is a phenomenon that has been around for
Speaker 7: a while. It's not just the Teals. When I was
Speaker 7: working for John Howard, it was the start and the
Speaker 7: resurgence of Pauline Hanson in One Nation that caused John
Speaker 7: Howard the heartburn at that time. Prior to that was
Speaker 7: the Democrats. We've seen Clive Palmer come forward. So the
Speaker 7: Teals of the latest iteration of people parking their votes
Speaker 7: because they're protesting about something, and often the public debate
Speaker 7: and the polity moves on. The big thing for the
Speaker 7: Teals at this election I think is going to be
Speaker 7: to decide which which way they may go should there
Speaker 7: be a big, big swing to the Coalition, which looks likely.
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't think anyone's sort of saying that
Speaker 7: that Peter Dunton is going to win in his own
Speaker 7: right like Steven Miles did over the weekend. But you mean, sorry,
Speaker 7: christophid over the weekend. That's right. But they're going to
Speaker 7: be faced with the decision, are we like Rob Oakshot
Speaker 7: and Tony Windsor who went the wrong way as independence
Speaker 7: and back Julia Gillard and lost their electorates at the
Speaker 7: two thousand and what was it thirteen election? Yeah, or
Speaker 7: are we going to actually be smart about Bob Kattock,
Speaker 7: Because there are some independents that have stuck around for
Speaker 7: a long time and they know which way the win's blowing,
Speaker 7: and they can discern the views of their voters, and
Speaker 7: they're very canny about picking it. This will be an
Speaker 7: important election for the Teals. It also shows that Peter
Speaker 7: Dutton has figured out he cannot win this election by
Speaker 7: just focusing on out of metropolitan seats and shoring up
Speaker 7: those those regional seats where labor made gains at the
Speaker 7: last election. He has to win some of those to
Speaker 7: your seats back, and clearly this advertising campaign is a
Speaker 7: sign that he's marked out that territory, recognizing that yeah, yes,
Speaker 7: that's right, is one you can win in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, really good points there, right, David Gazard, Cameron Milner,
Speaker 2: thank you both, really appreciate your time. Now still to
Speaker 2: come that the Abenezi government has failed to deal with
Speaker 2: the radical Islamic hate.
Speaker 3: Preachers, so now community groups are taking legal action.
Speaker 2: I'll speak about this breaking story with James Patterson. Plus
Speaker 2: I'll speak with a cousin of one young hostage still.
Speaker 3: Held captive in Gaza.
Speaker 2: Yet his interview was censored by the taxpayer funded public broadcaster.
Speaker 3: That's right after the break, welcome back. Well.
Speaker 2: For more than a year, the family of Nama Levy
Speaker 2: has been doing everything in their power to free her
Speaker 2: from the dungeons in Gaza. She was only ninety when
Speaker 2: she was kidnapped. She would have spent her twentieth birthday
Speaker 2: in unimaginable.
Speaker 3: Horrific conditions.
Speaker 2: And I've spoken with former hostages who told me directly
Speaker 2: that women are being beaten, raped and starved. Well here
Speaker 2: in Sydney, Australia, NAMA's cousin Zack has been pushing for
Speaker 2: her release, and he did an interview with SBS, but
Speaker 2: the broadcaster refused to publish it. I understand that SBS
Speaker 2: took a transcript. The managers took a transcript, They highlighted
Speaker 2: the lines that they thought were problematic. They told the
Speaker 2: journalist I met Rehak that he couldn't run it on
Speaker 2: his show, and they dumped the print out in the bin.
Speaker 2: The journalists managed to retrieve and save a copy of
Speaker 2: the interview that he completed with NAMA's cousin Zak, and
Speaker 2: here's a.
Speaker 3: Snippet of that.
Speaker 15: Before October seventh, the plan was for my uncle and
Speaker 15: I hunted to come and visit us in Australia. They
Speaker 15: are amaz They are Ayeleza parent parents and the plan
Speaker 15: was for them to come and visit us in Australia
Speaker 15: and travel in Australia. And after what happened on October seventh,
Speaker 15: we spoke to them and we said that they will
Speaker 15: come to Australia with Nama and that is the plan.
Speaker 15: And you know for that to mean, we must return
Speaker 15: all the hostages.
Speaker 2: Now that interview was complete and ready for broadcast just
Speaker 2: a few days before SBS pulled it. I asked SBS
Speaker 2: Corporate Affairs about this and they said in a statement,
Speaker 2: the Zaki Shaka interview did not air because mister Riehak
Speaker 2: had not completed the story at the.
Speaker 3: Time of his resignation. This is not a case of censorship.
Speaker 2: SBS appreciates the time and insights provided by mister Shaka,
Speaker 2: and SBS Hebrew intends to return to and complete the
Speaker 2: piece when the program recommences. This version of events is
Speaker 2: strongly disputed. I've got in my possession a copy of
Speaker 2: the completed interview.
Speaker 3: I've just played a clip from it to you now.
Speaker 2: Now, I would never censor an interview with the family
Speaker 2: of a current hostage.
Speaker 3: So I'm pleased to say that Zach joins me live
Speaker 3: now here in studio.
Speaker 2: Zach, thank you so much for your time, thank you
Speaker 2: for having me, and I'm so sorry to hear what
Speaker 2: you're all going through. Can you start by telling us
Speaker 2: what happened to your cousin Nama on October seven last year.
Speaker 15: Yeah, so, I'm sure everyone saw the video of Nama
Speaker 15: dragged from the back of the car, the back of
Speaker 15: the jip into the restat of the of the JIP
Speaker 15: that was published live broadcast by the terrorist and I
Speaker 15: saw it on that day. It was very hard to
Speaker 15: identify that this is Nama. Obviously it's been a few
Speaker 15: years since I saw her since we moved to Australia.
Speaker 15: But after we got the news, that was shocking.
Speaker 3: And so she was kidnapped.
Speaker 2: She was nineteen, but she was you know in Israel,
Speaker 2: everyone who every young person has to join the army.
Speaker 2: So she was working as a as an Israeli soldier
Speaker 2: when she was kidnapped.
Speaker 15: Yes, so she arrived at that base just a couple
Speaker 15: of days before the attack on the attack on Israel.
Speaker 15: And yes, she was kidnaped from there, and you know,
Speaker 15: like any other eighteen years old teenager, it is compulsory,
Speaker 15: you have to go to the army. And that's one
Speaker 15: of the things that we were talking about on the podcast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that podcast never ran. Amitri Haack says the interview
Speaker 2: was pulled, scrapped. He wasn't given permission to run it.
Speaker 2: What's your response to this censorship by a taxpayer funded
Speaker 2: public broadcaster in Australia.
Speaker 15: Look, the purpose of the broadcast was very clear to
Speaker 15: raise the awareness of, you know, the situation. We need
Speaker 15: to release, We need the hostage to be released, you know,
Speaker 15: yesterday and we spoke about that. We spoke about Nama
Speaker 15: what she achieved. She was a peace activist. She went
Speaker 15: to the US with Israeli and Palestinians kids for discussions
Speaker 15: about peace and how the two people can live together.
Speaker 15: Then we spoke about Penny One visiting Israel by this
Speaker 15: but decided not to visit the southern area when all
Speaker 15: other foreign minister decided to go and visit the Kiboz seams.
Speaker 15: They're very disappointed, Yeah, very disappointing.
Speaker 2: Do you think the Australian government's doing enough to help
Speaker 2: the hostages? They're still around one hundred hostages being helped
Speaker 2: in the tunnels of Gaza.
Speaker 3: Your cousin Nama Levi one of them.
Speaker 2: All we hear from Albanisi and Petty Wang is for
Speaker 2: a ceasefire. Why aren't they putting pressure on Qatar to
Speaker 2: force the release of the hostages.
Speaker 15: Yeah, so that's not clear. I don't know why. For
Speaker 15: eleven months, Isabella's firing missiles on Israel and they said nothing.
Speaker 15: But now after Israel started to respond to these attacks,
Speaker 15: they immediately called forces fire regarding the hostages. Yeah, they
Speaker 15: need to put pressure on every anyone who can impact
Speaker 15: the negotiation and close the deal release the hostages.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Zach, thank you very much for joining us.
Speaker 2: Really appreciate your strength. And we're all praying that Nama
Speaker 2: comes home safe.
Speaker 15: Thank you very much.
Speaker 13: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Now still to come.
Speaker 2: The Albenzi government has dared to suggest that Israel and
Speaker 2: Jews are to blame for inflation not coming down in Australia.
Speaker 3: Well, how credible is this? Came when claim when.
Speaker 2: The IMF shows that inflation is falling globally but just
Speaker 2: not in Australia. James Patterson is going to fire up
Speaker 2: about this after the short break. Well, the Albanezy government
Speaker 2: is blaming Israel's war on terror for inflation staying high
Speaker 2: in Australia. This is despite the IMF releasing forecasts showing
Speaker 2: that Australia is expected to record the second highest inflation
Speaker 2: rate out of forty two countries next year. Well, my
Speaker 2: friend and colleague Aaron Molin couldn't have said it better
Speaker 2: when she said this.
Speaker 16: Is he saying that Jews fighting jihadis is responsible for inflation?
Speaker 1: Sounds like it.
Speaker 14: I suspect he needs to look just a little closer
Speaker 14: to home.
Speaker 2: Jews fighting jihadists responsible for inflation unbelievable. Let's bring in
Speaker 2: now shutter Home Affairs Minister James Patterson. James, what do
Speaker 2: you think about this claim? Given the IMF forecast?
Speaker 6: Shari?
Speaker 16: I thought Australia was in trouble under the Albanezy labor government,
Speaker 16: but it turns out it's even worse than I feared.
Speaker 16: Because Jim Chalmer's plan to bring inflation down in Australia
Speaker 16: relies on peace in the Middle East. It relies on
Speaker 16: Harmass and the Hooties and Hesbalah and Iran to stop
Speaker 16: their genocidal war on his It also relies on Israel
Speaker 16: giving up on trying to flee their hostages or giving
Speaker 16: up on removing Hesbuler's rockets aimed at their cities. And
Speaker 16: of course all of this is an elaborate political ruse
Speaker 16: by the government to try and distract Australians from their
Speaker 16: own failings. But as you point out, the IMF believes
Speaker 16: will have the second highest inflation in the world next year.
Speaker 16: Our like minded democracies are all cutting interest rates, whether
Speaker 16: it's the United States or Canada, or New Zealand or
Speaker 16: the United Kingdom, and in Australia there seems like there's
Speaker 16: no hope in sight if you listen to the RBA.
Speaker 16: So Jim Chalmers should take responsibility for his own failings,
Speaker 16: stop trying to blame everyone else for inflation, which is
Speaker 16: a home grown phenomenon.
Speaker 2: Well, Sir James, look, we've seen that the Albanezy government
Speaker 2: and state governments have just failed to deal with radical.
Speaker 3: Islamic hate preachers. Well.
Speaker 2: Now Alexi Dimitriadi and he's been doing excellent reporting in
Speaker 2: the Australia and he's reporting that a Jewish community group
Speaker 2: is now taking one radical cleric to the federal over
Speaker 2: his sermons where he's calling the Jewish community vile and
Speaker 2: treacherous people. James, why is it up to community groups
Speaker 2: to fight this hatred and incitement to violence?
Speaker 16: Well, unfortunately, char it's because the Albanesi government has abandoned
Speaker 16: the Jewish community and we now have the profoundly unjust
Speaker 16: situation where the Jewish community is expected to take its
Speaker 16: own civil action to enforce the law and deal with
Speaker 16: this hatred instead of the federal government using the criminal
Speaker 16: system to take action to protect all of the community
Speaker 16: against extremist hate preachers. It is a crime to incite
Speaker 16: violence against other communities. These people should be charged and
Speaker 16: convicted in the courts instead of being asked to bankroll
Speaker 16: and bear the burden of their own legal action to
Speaker 16: try and deal with this problem. And it's because labor
Speaker 16: has vacated the field.
Speaker 2: The law should be there for everyone, not just for
Speaker 2: some people. And you know, I don't want to get
Speaker 2: into the whole Candice Owen saga now, but this is
Speaker 2: one instant since where Tony Burke is prepared to fight
Speaker 2: anti Semitism, but he won't lift a finger when it's
Speaker 2: hate preachers in his own backyard. James, I want to
Speaker 2: ask you about Iran's ambassador to Australia. He's back in
Speaker 2: the news, this time for calling Israel's retaliatory strikes on Iran.
Speaker 3: A terror attack.
Speaker 2: What do you make of these comments and what do
Speaker 2: you think Pennywong should do about it?
Speaker 16: Well, this is yet more inflammatory and irresponsible rhetoric from
Speaker 16: the Iranian ambassador. He's been hauled into the Department of
Speaker 16: Foreign Affairs and Trades many times now for a cup
Speaker 16: of tea. It clearly is looking for another free cup
Speaker 16: of tea of the Australian taxpayer because he hasn't been
Speaker 16: intimidated and his behavior hasn't changed on any of the
Speaker 16: previous occasions. Think the question for the Albanezer government is
Speaker 16: are there any limits for foreign ambassadors in Australia? Is
Speaker 16: there anything that they could do which would require them
Speaker 16: to be sent back home? It appears on their watch
Speaker 16: the answer is no, and they can behave with complete impunity.
Speaker 2: If it was up to you, if you were in
Speaker 2: government now, you were the Home Affairs Minister instead of
Speaker 2: Tony Burke, would you be encouraging the Iranian ambassador to
Speaker 2: be sent out?
Speaker 16: Well, we have publicly previously said on multiple occasions we
Speaker 16: think he has overstayed his welcome and overstepped his mark.
Speaker 16: In addition to that, we've said that the IRGC, the
Speaker 16: Revolutionary Guard Corps, should be listed as a terrorist organization
Speaker 16: because they are the largest sponsor of Hamas and the
Speaker 16: Hootis and Hesbala and others in the region. So you
Speaker 16: can expect tough action from the Dutton government on the
Speaker 16: Iranian regime because they are the primary destabilizer of that region,
Speaker 16: the primary sponsor of the war in Israel.
Speaker 2: Just on Iran, we saw on Saturday morning our time
Speaker 2: that Israel did carry out strikes.
Speaker 3: Against Iran, as we just mentioned. Do you think that at.
Speaker 2: Some point the international community is going to have to
Speaker 2: come together and deal with the nuclear threat?
Speaker 16: What Israel was entirely justified in responding to those direct
Speaker 16: acts of aggression from Iran on two pres occasions. Iran
Speaker 16: previously attacked Israel only through proxies, but is now openly
Speaker 16: doing so. And it is in all of our interests
Speaker 16: that deterrence is reinforced and that Iran is put back
Speaker 16: in its box, that it is not emboldened, because they
Speaker 16: threaten the stability of not just Israel, but the entire region.
Speaker 16: And the world. And it is Israel which is bearing
Speaker 16: that burden alone, I think, because the international community has
Speaker 16: failed to reign in the Iranian regime and they are
Speaker 16: behaving with impunity, and it's understandable what Israel feels, as
Speaker 16: the state most threatened by that, that they have to
Speaker 16: take action in their own self defense.
Speaker 2: Well said, Well said James Patterson. Thank you very much
Speaker 2: for your time as always, and I'll see you tomorrow
Speaker 2: night at eight o'clock. Right now, here's Paul back from
Speaker 2: Queensland and in the man Cave.