WEBVTT - Sharri | 28 October 0:00:01.520 --> 0:00:05.479 Why on Sky News. This is Sharry. 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:10.280 Good Evening. Welcome to the show tonight. The Quanta scandal 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:12.280 engulfing the Prime Minister could. 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:13.680 Get a whole lot worse. 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:16.600 I have breaking news in a moment on a bid 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:20.840 to recall Alan Joyce to answer questions about the business 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:23.239 class upgrades for his good mate. 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:24.880 Full coverage tonight. 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:28.520 The Queensland Labor Party has been booted from office, but 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:33.520 there's one political party even more upset than Labor. More 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:36.960 on that with My Political panel Cameron Milner and David Gazzard. 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:41.800 Later also tonight, how Israeli female fighters took on the 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:46.160 misogynistic I had told ers of Iran and won. I'll 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:49.360 explain how this was one of the most sophisticated and 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:53.800 complex military feats of our time. Plus the cousin of 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:57.040 a nineteen year old hostage, Nama Levi, is on the 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:00.520 show tonight. She's still trapped in guys at Time tunnels, 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:06.520 yet SBS dared to censor his interview where he fights 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:11.040 to bring her home. Our expose on the Public Broadcaster continues, 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:15.960 but first tonight. In breaking news, former Quantis chief executive 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:18.640 Alan Joyce is set to be horn in front of 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:23.080 a Senate inquiry to detail the free upgrades he gave. 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:24.880 His mate Anthony Alberzi. 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:31.679 This has become a massive scandal, Albanezi personally requesting twenty 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:35.800 two free upgrades, including on a flight with his son 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:41.600 from Sydney to Rome, that gift around ten thousand dollars. Collectively, 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:44.640 the twenty two free upgrades would be worth. 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:47.000 Tens of thousands of dollars. 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:52.120 These special privileges were given to the PM dating back 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:55.560 to his time as Transport Minister in the Rudd and 0:01:55.600 --> 0:02:00.760 Gillard governments, and it leads to questions about the decisions 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:06.160 he's made over the years that benefited Quantus over rival airlines. 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:11.079 Journalist Joe Aston has exposed a web of influence, alleging 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:16.639 that Alan Joyce was basically Albanesi's personal travel agent. 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:21.280 When the man regulating your own industry deciding which airlines 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:23.680 can fly into Australia and how often if he wants 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:25.880 a free upgrade, what are you going to do? If 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.600 Anthony Alberanezi had called the CEO WESPAC or A and 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:30.600 Z and said, could you please put fifty thousand dollars 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:34.240 in my account? Would that be okay? I have this 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:36.560 weird thing where if you ask for a flight upgrade, 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:39.560 it's not a bribe or you know, it can't be 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:42.520 perceived as a potential conflict of interest, but there's a 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:43.720 financial value to it. 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:48.840 Absolutely, that's an excellent point and Joe Aston will be 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:50.720 on my show tomorrow night. 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:51.560 Now. 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:54.920 Our National's leader in the Senate, Bridget McKenzie told me 0:02:55.000 --> 0:03:00.359 today that given this new information, she is now investigating 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:05.000 Alan Joyce to the Senate Inquiry to answer questions about 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:09.960 these revelations. The accusation is that Albinizi may have put 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:14.919 his own interests ahead of Australia's interests. He's denied rival 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:19.400 International airlines more flights into Australia, but this would have 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:23.520 brought down airfares. Joyce has become one of the most 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:28.399 disliked executives in corporate Australia. As you know, he supported 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:32.720 the Voice with Quantas giving around three hundred and seventy 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:37.119 thousand dollars and as you recall, Alan Joyce held this 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:42.160 press conference alongside alber Easy and we know that. 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:45.240 This will make it a big difference and a step 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:48.640 in the right direction for reconciliation. 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:48.640 In this country. 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:52.240 So now can I call on the Prime Minister of Australia, 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:55.640 the Honorable Antony alban Easy to say a few words. 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:55.680 Take it. 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:06.800 While Alan Joyce was supporting his mate's pet project. We 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:11.520 all had no idea just how cozy their relationship was. 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:12.600 Now. 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:18.320 Quanta's offers Chairman's Lounge membership to all politicians, to judges, executives, 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:23.960 celebrities and senior public servants, but Albanesi had special access. 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:28.680 Joyce organized for his son to have chairman's lounge access, 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:34.440 a gift that Albanesi reportedly didn't declare in the Pecuniary 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:38.960 Interest Register. Joe Asen says, I'm not saying now that 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:43.080 there is an established causation between Albanesi getting a chairman's 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:48.000 membership for his son and Qatar Airways, for example, being 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:49.600 blocked from flying more. 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:50.800 Frequently into Australia. 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:55.640 But what it does do is raise a lot of questions. 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:57.200 Now. 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:01.160 Albanzi at first refused to take questions about all of this. 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:05.280 On Saturday, he only wanted international questions, and then. 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:08.360 He quickly ended his press conference, and. 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:12.320 Then yesterday he just couldn't avoid speaking about it because 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:16.440 it has become a major political issue. Instead, he played 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:20.840 the victim. He claimed his family was being targeted. 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:27.400 I think that people's families shouldn't be the subject of targeting. 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:31.560 Well, that's just nonsense. This is a public interest story. 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:33.159 As I said, Joe Aston. 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:34.600 Will be on the show tomorrow. 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.760 But it's like groundhog Day with labor ministers having to 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:42.480 defend the Prime Minister yet again, first over his cliff 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:45.600 top mansion, now over flight upgrades. 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:48.720 Well, let's go to the heart of the matter. Has 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:55.960 the Prime Minister complied diligently, transparently, consistently about declaring any upgrades. Yes, 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:59.200 he has, And I know from personal experience that the 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:02.840 Prime Minister is a fundamental believer in transparency. 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:08.840 It's appropriate that the arrangements are robust. I know that 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:11.200 the Prime Minister was asked about this, I think multiple 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:14.119 times yesterday and his press conference. I don't have anything 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:14.640 to add to it. 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:17.240 I don't think it's any surprise that in the role 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:20.479 of Transport and Infrastructure Ministry you'd be traveling a lot. 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:26.320 Coalition MPs weren't buying these excuses, and Peter Darton said 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:28.560 Albin Easy had questions to answer. 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:31.920 Sometimes there are oversights and the rest of it. There's 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:36.160 human error involved. But when you're talking about having a 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:41.160 personal phone call to ask for an upgrade as the 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:44.680 Transport Minister or the shadow Transport Minister. I presume the 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:46.960 Prime Minister is going to answer questions about that I'm 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:49.839 in strange arrangements when you can pick the phone up 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:53.040 to the CEO and ask is the Transport Minister for 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:53.680 an upgrade? 0:06:55.320 --> 0:07:00.000 This is all a question of integrity. Most Australians struggled 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:03.680 to afford even an economy airfare. They'd never be able 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:06.400 to afford the luxury of business class. 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:10.400 It's out of our reach. Can Albanezi truly be. 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:14.400 Impartial when it comes to making decisions about quantus when 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:17.960 he's been getting tens of thousands of dollars worth. 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.160 Of free upgrades to business Class. 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:24.720 The revelation puts the decisions he made as Transport Minister 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:29.040 and as Prime Minister under a cloud and aside from 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:32.360 the integrity issues, which are the most important. But aside 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:37.440 from the integrity issues, this revelation is also politically lethal. 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:42.160 Alban Easy took care to curate a self image of 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:46.120 a housing commissioned boy who made it, but now the 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:50.240 perception is cementing of a long term polly enjoying the 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:52.840 perks of public office. 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:54.320 Former Labor State. 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.920 Secretary Cameron Milner, he's going to be on my show tonight, 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.240 and he writes in The Nightly that. 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.440 Alban Ezy would have voters believe. 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:04.720 That twenty eight years of being in Parliament brings judgment 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:08.480 and experience. But in stout, Albertezi looks like he's been 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:12.640 wallowing in the freebies all while sucking down hard on 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:18.120 the teat of the taxpayer. Free Taylor Swift tickets, free 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:22.200 Grand Final tickets, free flight upgrades. That's before he had 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:25.640 access to his own plane, which he's dubbed Toto I 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:30.400 after his dog, and now also a clifftop mansion where 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:35.120 AE hundred million dollars of taxpayer funds. 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.800 Will upgrade the road that leads to it. 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:42.480 If this all sounds bad to us, imagine how Labor 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:46.520 members are reacting to the revelations, along with families who 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:51.079 were truly struggling to survive in this cost of living crisis. 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:54.160 It's no wonder that Labor and PS have had enough 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:58.840 of the embarrassing headlines their largest loving leader is bringing 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:06.200 on the party. Now to the Middle East, Israel finally 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:10.480 retaliated against Iran over the weekend, Saturday morning, our time. 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:15.600 Young female fighters were part of Israel's assault on Iranian 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:21.080 military targets. You can see them here on aircraft going 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:26.760 into battle. The beauty of having young women fighting shoulder 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:30.640 to shoulder with Israeli men as they launched strikes against 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:36.520 the military sites of the misogynistic Iranian regime. A regime 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:39.960 where the Ayatolas don't allow women to show their face 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:44.680 they need to wear hijab headscarfs at all times, where 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:48.240 women who protest, who dare to protest against this, have 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:54.080 been beaten to death and executed, Where morality police enforce 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:59.200 a strict interpretation of Sharia law, where women are often 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:04.880 the victims of unjust violence. Even the United Nations admits 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:09.760 that the Iranian government has only intensified its efforts to 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:14.320 repress the rights of women. Well, the iyatolders would have 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:19.480 despised seeing the Israeli defense forces release photographs of beautiful 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:23.320 young women, their long hair visible not covered by hedge 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:28.520 apps flying planes into battle. They were the pilots, and 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:34.800 this operation was utterly extraordinary. Israel strikes in Iran haven't 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:39.000 been fully understood for just how sophisticated they were, and 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:42.640 for how they now lay the groundwork for future strikes 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:47.160 on Iran's nuclear sites. Now, this was the first time 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:52.000 that Israel had entered a thirtier country where it doesn't 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:55.400 have a mutual border, and the challenge of doing this 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:56.840 can't be underestimated. 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:59.920 It's not like flying from Sydney to Canberra. 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:04.080 Israel had to remove the threat between the airspace in 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:08.800 between Israel and Iran from Syria and Iraq. As the 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:12.280 Wall Street Journal reports, Israel had to take out air 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:16.079 defenses in Syria and Iraq, clearing the way for its 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:22.000 flight path to Iran. Secondly, Israel attacked Iran's air defenses 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:23.280 so that they could. 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:25.240 Then proceed unchallenged. 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:31.920 And Thirdly, Israel struck keynodes in Iran's ballistic missile production 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:36.400 and they hit a military target in Parshan, so they 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:39.760 weren't just in Tehran, and in Parshan that's where Iran 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:41.800 has worked on nuclear weapons. 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:44.480 My understanding is that. 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:49.320 The Israeli aircraft actually went into Iranian airspace. This is 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:54.199 incredible courage from those young fighters, but also what a 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:57.520 feat for Israel to pull this off with all planes 0:11:57.559 --> 0:11:58.720 returning home safely. 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:01.760 They are truly heroes. 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:05.680 Now we don't know for sure, but the working assumption 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:09.240 is that Iran will now respond in some form. 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:11.040 But Israel has. 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:13.560 Shown that it has the means and the measure to 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:18.840 severely attack Iran and successfully so, and it's learnt lessons 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:22.439 for how to do so when it inevitably tackles the 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:27.600 nuclear threat. But I have to say this, Iran poses 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:31.120 a threat to all of us. The ballistic missiles that 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:36.280 were fired towards Israel recently can reach nearly every capital 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:40.760 in Europe, and if Iran is allowed to continue its 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:44.600 development of nuclear capability, if it does develop a nuclear weapon, 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:49.480 this could even reach us in Australia. This is the 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:54.760 international community's responsibility to eliminate the nuclear threat from Iran. 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:59.080 This shouldn't just be left for Israel to single handedly 0:12:59.120 --> 0:12:59.600 deal with. 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:03.720 In another sign of just how. 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:07.520 Weak Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are, they want Israel 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:11.480 to stop fighting around and they seem content to allow 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:15.720 Tehran to continue developing nuclear weapons. How else can you 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:21.120 read their comments calling for de escalation after Israel strikes, 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:23.680 It looks did anything. 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:24.560 Out of the military target. 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:28.880 I hope with this year, of course, we maintain the 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:33.760 importance of supporting Israel's right to defend itself, and we 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:38.920 are also very adamant that we must see de escalation 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:42.080 in the region going forward. This war must end. We 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:44.880 must get the hostages out and work toward a two 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:47.960 state solution de escalation. 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:49.520 My hope is this will end. 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:54.840 It used to be America that was strong. The United 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:58.160 States was the tough world leader dealing with terrorism and 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:02.760 evil regimes. But not anymore. It seems the international community 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:06.319 wants to turn a blind eye to Iran's nuclear development 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:10.840 instead of supporting and joining Israel in the fight against 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:15.600 Iran to protect all of us globally, the international community 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:20.080 again calls for de escalation and cease fire at the 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:25.360 precise time when Iran is at its most vulnerable, with 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:28.920 its proxy terror groups on their knees and their air 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:33.040 defenses taken down on the weekend. It's only a matter 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.920 of time before America we'll have to wake up and 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:39.560 deal with the nuclear threat. And it can't only be 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:43.880 the Israeli Prime Minister Benjaminette and Yahoo battling this evil 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:50.680 regime on behalf of the West. Right now, let's bring 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:53.760 in tonight's panel Perth, Mayre, Basil, Zemplus and Sky News 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:55.280 contributor Joe Hildebrand. 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:58.480 Welcome to you both. I want to get your feedback 0:14:58.520 --> 0:14:59.480 on both of those topics. 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:03.880 Let's start with the quantus scandal surrounding Anthony Albanisi. 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:04.680 Joe. 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:10.000 These twenty two upgrades that Albanezi received from Alan Joyce. 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.480 We're hearing that not all of them were political trips, 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:13.920 some were family holidays. 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:15.560 I mean, as many. 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:18.400 Coalition MPs said today, this doesn't pass the pup tests. 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:18.800 No. 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:20.720 I think the best you can say about this is 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:22.800 that it happened a long time ago. It's clearly not 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:24.800 a good look. It comes obviously on the back of 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:29.800 the more recent and actual, in real time purchase of 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:31.880 the house in Copa Cabana on the New South Wales 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:35.360 Central Coast. So I think Albo has to be much 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:38.960 more careful about how he presents. He's got to understand 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:41.120 that when the country is doing it tough, he has 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:43.080 to be seen to be doing it tough. He's got 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:44.960 to wear a hair shirt on behalf of the country, 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.840 even though he himself may be very happy and in 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.280 a love bubble with Jody. And that's fantastic, and that's great, 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:53.080 and I'm genuinely happy for him, but when people are suffering, 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:55.400 it's just simply not a good look. Even if the 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:57.640 amounts of money, or even if in the case of 0:15:57.640 --> 0:15:59.640 the house thing it's completely immaterial, it doesn't affect the 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:03.640 rest of it. But you know, in politics, perception is everything. 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:05.960 The good news is in terms of the housing I 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.080 understand that the government is not going to touch negative 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:10.480 gearing and that is something real and tangible that we 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:13.400 should all be that homeowners should be grateful for and 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.840 renters as well because it will encourage investment. But for 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:18.000 this stuff to come up is obviously not a good 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:22.480 look and hopefully the government and ALBO will be able 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:24.360 to put it behind them and move on to more 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:25.280 substantial things. 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.080 I mean, as I said at the start, their basil, 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:31.080 this is an integrity issue and we know that the 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:35.480 Albanezy government blocked Qatar Airways bids for more flights to 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:37.480 come into Australia at the time. 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:39.720 This would have lowered the airfares that there. 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:44.360 Are such an extraordinary high airfares at the moment, So 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:47.840 there are questions of an integrity nature here for the 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:48.960 Prime Minister to answer. 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:54.400 Well, by the actions of the Prime minister, that's why 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:58.160 we have those questions of integrity, and clearly that press 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:02.280 conference with Joyce and the Prime Minister one after the 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:06.280 other speaking it does look like a cozy relationship and 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:08.399 a couple of questions. I mean, it was an extraordinary 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:10.800 amount of flying that the Prime Minister was doing, albeit 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:14.520 all declared occasionally, I have had an upgrade, and good 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.880 luck to anyone who gets an upgrade. We celebrate that 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:20.359 person that gets called forward and gets bumped up the front. 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:23.200 But it seems like the Prime Minister was getting one 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:28.080 for every single flight that he was taking. That's not normal. 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:32.600 The other thing is did the Prime Minister's son deserve 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:36.400 the chairman's lounge membership? Now he may well have. He 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:38.639 may have had enough going on in his own career 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:41.040 that he deserved it, But I guess I'd say this 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:44.040 as well. Just imagine, just imagine it was one of 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:47.560 Scott Morrison's children when he was Prime Minister, albeit a 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:51.679 little younger. But imagine if it was Scott Morrison's child 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:57.440 who had the Quantus Chairman's Lounge membership. Imagine what people 0:17:57.480 --> 0:17:58.159 would be saying. 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:02.400 Men exactly, I don't think anyone at twenty two years 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:03.880 old could. 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:06.800 Say that they have had a career warrants. 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:09.720 Certainly, the lounges I was in when I was twenty 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:12.560 years old are very very different to the Chairman's lounge. 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:15.240 They were much much tingier and smokier, and. 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.400 Let's hope it sure they were, Joe. 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:19.639 But just quickly, before we get to the Queenside election, 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:21.720 I want to ask your thoughts and what I had 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:25.200 to say about how the urine around nuclear threat does 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:27.880 affect all of us around the world, and yet it's 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:29.640 Israel who's having to deal with it. 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:30.080 At the moment. 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:31.000 Yeah, I can't. 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:33.280 I can certainly understand why you would want to see 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:36.200 some kind of, you know, as much sort of prestrision 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:39.480 as you can muster when it comes to civilian casualties 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:44.000 in Gaza or in Lebanon, Suden Lebanon. But going after 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:47.120 Iranian military targets, I mean, that is just Luke Skywalker 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:51.080 versus Darth Vader. That is the simplest moral decision anyone 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:53.960 could possibly make. The Fact that Israel is even able 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:56.679 to do this is, as you said, just phenomenal. And 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:58.680 the fact they're able to do this to hit only 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:02.159 military targets in Iran and come back out again I mean, 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:08.240 there is absolutely no possible good cause, no possible decent purpose, 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:11.520 that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard will ever be put to. 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:17.080 They have been a despotic, theocratic, theocratic, fascist dictatorship ever 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:19.879 since the nineteen seventy nine revolution, and anything you can 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:22.240 do to harm their power is a good thing for 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:24.840 all of humankind. So I don't see how anyone could 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:25.960 have moral qualms about. 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:26.600 It, exactly. 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:29.359 All right, let's turn to the Queensland election results. And 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:32.439 as you know, David Chris Ifaley has officially been sworn 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:34.040 in as Queensland's premiere. 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:36.160 Now on Saturday night. 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:38.639 We saw Stephen Miles claim that the L and P 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:42.040 would struggle to form a majority, That's what he said, 0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:45.840 and yet they've done just that. At the latest count 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:50.520 the LNP has won fifty one seats to Labour's thirty three, 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:54.159 and we're expecting LL ANDP to get to fifty three seats, 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:57.120 So Labour lost thirteen seats. 0:19:57.200 --> 0:19:58.479 This is not a quick result. 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:02.560 The Catters will have three seats. Independence and Greens just 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:06.600 won and at this point seventy percent around there votes 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:10.639 have been counted. Now, Basil, what do you make of 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:13.240 this spend that the L andp didn't do so well 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:16.399 given they have one with a governing majority. 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:21.160 It was an unbelievable rewriting of history on the run, 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:23.320 wasn't it. In fact, history hadn't even been written, and 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:26.960 it was being rewritten before we got there. Extraordinary from 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:30.239 the premiere as he was at that moment with a 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:33.480 concession speech that forgot just one thing, and that was 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:37.800 the concession. But the really damning blow, I thought, was 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:42.280 or to go with that information which was clearly at 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:45.919 worst in the balance, at best, just a flat out 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:50.760 lie to say they cannot form a majority government. Outrageous. 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:53.879 Hold your speech until you know whether that is in 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:56.400 play or not or so we don't know with any 0:20:56.440 --> 0:21:00.399 certainty as yet. Tomorrow we might know, but look, writing 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:05.280 is incredible. They have an eighteen seventeen sixteen seat majority 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:09.040 over the Labor Party. That's a big victory in anybody's book. 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:11.600 And I'll tell you what I am running soon. If 0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:13.840 I got that sort of victory, that would do me 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:15.800 every day of. 0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:17.560 The week, one one hundred percent. 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:19.760 And I've always said, I think we can end up 0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:22.919 seeing you as as premier one day, Vasil, not just 0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:27.640 Lord mayor Joe. You know, Stephen Miles sees the leadership 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:31.080 from anastagia Paliche, claiming that he would have a better 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:32.240 chance of winning. 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:35.879 Yet with this result, what do you think of that claim? 0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:39.359 Now, look, it's gone better than expected, but that doesn't 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:42.359 tell you that it's gone well, or that Chris A 0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:44.600 fully the l and peperform badly. That just tells you 0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:47.399 how dire the expectations was. They thought it was going 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:49.639 to be a repeat of the famous tirago where you 0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:52.159 could sit, you know, the entire ALP caucus around the 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:55.640 kitchen table, and it wasn't that. And maybe that's an 0:21:55.640 --> 0:22:01.400 exercise in really good management of expectations. But Stephn Miles, 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:04.520 you know, okay, say save the furniture, all right, find 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:06.560 no problem. Now, he's got to get out of the way, 0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:09.800 allow the party an opportunity to reset and refresh. There 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:11.879 is no way it's going to be competitive if you've 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:14.119 still got him hanging around. It's clear that he is 0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:18.520 a handbrake on Labour's popularity. He's only there because he's 0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:20.560 got the backing of the left wing union. 0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:21.560 Do you think he should go now? 0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:23.040 Absolutely? Absolutely? 0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:25.560 I think him staying on his opposition leader as an 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:27.080 incredible so you're not. 0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:30.160 Buying that he ran a good campaign. You're just not. 0:22:30.800 --> 0:22:34.920 I think the campaign was better than the absolute, you know, 0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:38.159 disaster that it could have been, and that's fine. But 0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:40.679 having done that, for him to then stay on and 0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:42.240 say no, I'm still going to keep the good is 0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:46.199 that is either incredibly naive or incredibly narcissistic. And for 0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:48.160 the sake of the party, for the good of the party, 0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:49.960 he needs to go, and he needs to go now 0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:53.720 and give another leader the chance to hit reset and 0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:55.800 try to bring the party back. 0:22:56.480 --> 0:22:58.600 All right, Joe who ad a brown Basil Zemplers, thank 0:22:58.640 --> 0:23:02.399 you both so much for yours. Now let's turn to 0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:06.240 the US presidential race, because it's about nine days to go. 0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:09.640 Donald Trump and Kamala Harris fighting to the finish line. 0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:13.679 The focus clearly on battleground states. We saw on the 0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:16.400 weekend that Kamala Harris continued. 0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:17.280 Her blitz in Philadelphia. 0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:21.240 Donald Trump put on a splashy rally at Madison Square 0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:21.920 Garden in. 0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:25.159 New York, and let's bring you now for more analysis. 0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:27.159 Sky News contributor Kosher Gada. 0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:30.960 Kosher, Now, this was an interesting choice to have a 0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:34.359 rally in New York, and it certainly grabbed headlines. What 0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:38.120 were the takeouts for you and what's the strategy behind 0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:38.800 this decision? 0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:44.240 Great Vihari, you know, I think it's sort of psychology 0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:47.800 and optics were To me, it looks like the ultimate 0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:51.040 flex or. It's a microclosm of where the res and 0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:53.560 the dynamics of the restand as we sit here today, 0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:56.760 which is a team Trump is on offense. The other 0:23:56.800 --> 0:23:59.239 side seems to be on defense, trying to go and 0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:02.920 defend voter blocks that are typically very advantageous to Democrats, 0:24:02.960 --> 0:24:05.560 such as blacks and Hispanics and minorities and women versus 0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:08.720 here going into deep blue New York and just showing 0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:11.720 that offensive move. I think it's also about the lineup, 0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:14.600 and it shows the realignment that has happened. It's quite 0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:18.639 stunning in this campaign with RFK Junior, Chelsea Gabbard, doctor 0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:21.000 Phil who's his daytime talk show hosts, all sorts of 0:24:21.000 --> 0:24:23.040 people coming out. And I think the third thing is 0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:26.560 that it really is normalizing what it could mean to 0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:30.280 support Trump openly. These are people from other spheres of life, 0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:32.240 and it's just a big contrast to some of the 0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:34.560 framing on the other side of He's a fascist and 0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:36.520 Hilarian and all of that. I think that's what this 0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:39.080 was about, and just showing that they can, even though 0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:41.480 they will probably not win New York, they can fill 0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:44.200 up an arena of twenty thousand people in deep blue 0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:44.600 New York. 0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:49.159 Though it hasn't, of course, stopped the claims that Trump 0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:51.439 is a fascist, because now the Democrats are saying the 0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:53.960 fact that he held the rally at this place that 0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:58.919 once had hitless supporters somehow means Trump is the anime, 0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:02.840 even though they have been countless pop stars who've held 0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:06.280 events right in that space. I mean, it's completely ludicrous 0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:06.840 that claim. 0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:08.240 Now, over the. 0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:11.600 Weekend, we saw Michelle Obama come out and she had 0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:15.160 this bizarre line where she said that Donald Trump wasn't 0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:19.200 doing proper interviews, when in fact it's Kamala Harris who 0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:21.199 isn't sitting down for serious scrutiny. 0:25:21.480 --> 0:25:23.240 Apart from that one interview. 0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:25.840 With Brett Bayer and in fact, Donald Trump spent three 0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:29.360 hours on Joe Rogan's podcast. I'm sure everyone he has 0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:31.680 heard of him. If not, he's one of the most, 0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:35.560 if not the most popular podcasts internationally and certainly in 0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:39.240 the US. Let's have a listen to some of that interview. 0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:42.879 I picked some people that I shouldn't have picked. I 0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:46.280 picked a few people that I shouldn't have picked. 0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:49.359 And neo cohns, Yeah, Neo khans or. 0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:52.840 Bad people or disloyal people or people that were just 0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:57.880 people there people that advice, Yeah, I mean kosher. 0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:02.200 You can't hide yourself and three hour interview. You can't 0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:05.040 write learn answers. What did you think were the main 0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:07.760 revelations from that podcast? 0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:11.800 You know, it's interesting because Trump is probably the most 0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:14.600 famous human being on planet Earth by this point, and 0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:16.960 before he entered politics, he was already a very well 0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:19.800 known developer and media personality in the US. So the 0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:22.560 thing about the podcast format is it allows how do 0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:24.520 you take somebody like that that is so well known 0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:26.960 and everybody has an opinion about him, good, bad, or 0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:29.720 ugly and reveal a new layer or a new dimension. 0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:32.640 And very few mediums can do that, certainly cable TV 0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:37.479 and presidential debates and even rallies that are more scripted, canned. 0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:40.160 And here, you know, he can bob and weave between 0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:42.479 different topics. He actually calls it the weave where they 0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:47.760 went from irrigation policy in Iowa to our space aliens 0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:52.159 correct or not to a cultural question about UFC and 0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:54.239 everything in between. And it just showed a lot of 0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:58.280 personality ability to just hold all sorts of details in 0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:00.960 his mind and have opinions about them. And again, I 0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:04.680 think to the earlier point, just come across as a normal, likable, 0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:07.920 conversational guy, which is in itself such a big deal 0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:09.960 given the way he's been framed for the better part 0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:10.840 of the last decade. 0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:14.520 Kochha, just before you go, can you give us an 0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:16.760 update of where the polls were sitting at the moment 0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:18.359 for both candidates. 0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:22.680 Still razor tight. There's a little bit of movement, a 0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:25.680 couple actually that were favorable to Kamla, but overall they're 0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:27.760 in the margin of error or Trump is up in 0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:30.119 all of them. I think at this point, along with Poles, 0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:32.640 you've got to look at the whole picture. Betting markets 0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:36.040 seemed to be heavily favoring Trump, battleground state polls and 0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:38.760 early voting seemed to be the momentumus with him. But 0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:41.280 nine days is a week in politics, and I think 0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:43.120 the bottom line is anything can still. 0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:44.120 Happen, all right. 0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:46.560 Indeed, Kosha Gata, thank you so much for joining us. 0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:49.520 And we'll have full coverage of the US election every 0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:52.640 night on the show for the next week. Now after 0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:55.560 the break, if Labor had a bad Queensland election, it 0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:58.879 was goodbye to bad rubbish with the great So I'm 0:27:58.920 --> 0:27:59.840 going to speak about. 0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:01.800 This with Cameron Milner and David Gazard. 0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:08.120 Next plus is the Albanezi government seriously blaming Israel and 0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:12.679 Jews for our high inflation. James Patterson is coming up 0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:15.959 on the show and he lays into this outrageous and 0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:24.440 inaccurate claim. Don't miss his fiery interview. Welcome back, Well, 0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:28.040 plenty more to discuss. Let's bring in now Tonight's political panel, 0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:31.760 former Howard government advisor David Gazard and former chief of 0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:33.040 staff to Bill Sholton. 0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:35.040 Cameron Milner, welcome to you both. 0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:39.560 Well, let's return to Anthony Albanese's quantus saga. This is 0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:42.720 a scoundal that's just going to get bigger and bigger. 0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:44.240 As the week goes on. I've got Joe Aston on 0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:45.240 the show tomorrow night. 0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:49.800 Cameron, you've written another scathing article in The Nightly tonight 0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:53.320 about this very topic. Do you agree the perception is 0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:58.680 now cementing that the Prime Minister just likes sa freebie. 0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:02.520 Well it's this is a huge scandal because we all 0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:04.320 know he's been up for the free tickets, the free 0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:08.280 lunchers and everything else. But this is him actually getting 0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:11.959 personal benefit, personal benefit that we could actually monetize. We 0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:13.720 know how much a cost to get a ready deal 0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:16.000 on Quotas and how much a first class ticket to 0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:18.680 London costs, and that's what he was training. He was 0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:21.880 bringing up his personal agent, personal travel agent, who happened 0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:24.640 to be the CEO of Coutus, Alan Joyce, rang him 0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:27.600 up to get this arranged not once, but twenty two 0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:29.880 times at least that we already know about. So this 0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:32.840 was about personal benefit for him while he was a 0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:36.120 Transport minister, while he was the chief regulator of Quotas, 0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:39.200 holding other people out of the market and benefiting Quotas. 0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:42.720 This is a scandal, an absolute scandal. And the Albanese 0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:45.840 family with the Chairman's lounge everything else too, it's just 0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:49.440 continued on even after he's got Toto one sharing. So 0:29:49.640 --> 0:29:52.800 absolute scandal and a personal benefit to the Prime Minister 0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:55.200 as a crew here which we can monetary value. 0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:57.280 That's the problem, David. 0:29:57.280 --> 0:30:00.560 There's also the integrity issues, which is hi This is 0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:03.320 a matter of public interest because it raises questions about 0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:07.000 the decisions that Albanizi made that affected Quantas and other 0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:11.000 rival airlines, both when he was Transport Minister and Prime 0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:12.320 Minister David Gazzart. 0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:17.400 Yes, absolutely, and you've seen the Coalition starting to seize 0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:20.160 on this and they're making the very obvious point. Well, 0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:24.320 hang on a second. What was mentioned in your frequent 0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:28.200 discussions with Alan Joyce while you were Transport Minister. How 0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:31.800 did that relationship carry forward and how did that affect 0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:36.040 Quantison's status when Qatar was looking to enter the marketplace 0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:38.960 and what would have been the flow on benefits to 0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:42.880 the cost of airline tickets for every Australian Should there 0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:45.960 have been more competition in the sector. So suddenly it's 0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:50.200 Anthony Alberesi with his cliff top mansion, Anthony Alberesi with 0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:54.880 his upgrades, but everyone else paying higher prices for their 0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:58.400 airline fares in a cost of living crisis. So this 0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:01.080 is bad. I agree with kem on this. The other 0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:03.040 thing that sort of stuns me on this is this 0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:06.200 is the second bite at this story where his son 0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:10.160 as a member of the Quannis Lounge has been mentioned. 0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:13.760 He's still a member. I mean, most sensible politicians, were 0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:18.160 they to upgrade the significant other into the plus one status, 0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:21.320 would have said, look, sorry, Nathan, you're out of the 0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:24.200 Chairman's twenty two. Your chairman, you've been there for a while, 0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:27.560 but I'm sorry, it's all over. He's still there. St 0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:31.760 Anthony Albanezi has decided to keep pursuing the gravy train 0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:35.080 for his son's benefit. Just fight the views of Australian 0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:36.560 voters all the way through. 0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:40.360 That's utterly extraordinary and sure the cost of living crisis, 0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:40.720 go for it. 0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:43.200 Cameron, I was. 0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:45.200 Going to say, this is the absolute sense of entitled 0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:47.120 to this guy. I mean, twenty eight years in the 0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:49.840 Parliament and he can't see the conflict. Can't see the 0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:52.800 conflict here because it's all down to, as David said, 0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:55.440 his personal benefit, where the rest of us as consumers 0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:56.000 have to put up with. 0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:59.440 Contas yeah, and being on hold for hours at a 0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:02.040 time and then getting call centers and you can't. 0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:04.320 Get through it. It's canceled exactly. 0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:07.160 Not to mention the flight credits issue, I'll get stuck 0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:10.080 into that tomorrow night with Joe Aston. Now let's talk 0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:12.760 about the Greens result at the Queensland election. 0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:14.480 I mean the Greens thought. 0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:16.880 They were going to pick up a multiple more seats 0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:17.840 in a Brisbane. 0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:20.680 They ended up losing one of their two seats. 0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:25.640 This was humiliating Cameron and somehow Federal Green Green's leader 0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:28.480 Adam Bound is trying to blame labor for all of this. 0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:32.760 He should only look at his own backyard because he's 0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:35.400 no longer an environment party. He's a party of extremism, 0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:39.080 extremism on his lamb, and a disgusting anti Semitic party, 0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:41.360 and voters are onto them. Shari voters are onto them. 0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:43.800 They don't like what they say about Israel, they like 0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:45.880 what they say about Jews. And the Greens are an 0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:49.080 extreme political party and voters have rejected them. They voted 0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:51.640 against the me Act, They voted because in Queensland and 0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:54.680 even in the Melbourney Council elections day the Greens tanked. 0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:57.080 What do you think, David? 0:32:57.160 --> 0:33:01.440 Do you think the voters are just turning off the Greens. 0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:05.440 Look, their policies have been extremist and if you're going 0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:07.840 to run with the big dogs in the Fed Parliament, 0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:09.560 you've got to be able to stand on your own 0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:13.160 two feet. There's no point turning around and pointing at 0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:16.560 Anthony Alberanezi or others that have attacked them because their 0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:19.280 base is under threat by the Greens and saying, oh, 0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:21.480 it's all their fault. You have to go out and 0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:24.240 prosecute your own case. You've got to make the case 0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:29.640 as to why you've been blockading MP's officers and supporting 0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:34.440 the CFMU at the most despicable moment in that trade 0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:37.640 union's history. These are the things they've done. You've got 0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:40.080 to stand up and argue for your policies and if 0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:42.840 you let others define you, well, you've got no one 0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:44.320 to blame but yourselves. 0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:46.360 Well. 0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:50.719 The Liberals, meanwhile, have launched an ad campaign warning voters 0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:53.280 about the risks of electing a tial's have a look. 0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:59.720 Since the last election till independent MP's have voted most 0:33:59.800 --> 0:34:04.000 of with the Greens, followed by Labor. Teal MP's voted 0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:07.280 with the Greens against tougher laws to stop criminals getting visas. 0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:12.440 Teal MPs want higher taxes, including on capital gains, housing 0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:16.040 and a higher GST. What would that mean for our economy? 0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:19.640 The next election will be close, with many commentators predicting 0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:23.320 a hung parliament. Are Labor Greens Teals minority government. 0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:27.760 Don't risk it, Cameron, this is the big question whether 0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:30.440 the support for the Teals is going to remain at 0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:31.760 the next federal election. 0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:35.360 What do you think, Well, I think we see at 0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:38.800 the state level the Teal voters come back, so certainly 0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:41.440 the Liberal vote is returning in those seats. Whether it 0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:44.280 will be enough is a question, and whether althey Albanies 0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:46.160 will do a dirty preference deal like you did last 0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:48.200 time to try to get Teals elected just so he 0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:50.880 can stay Prime Minister. Because Albo doesn't care if it's 0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:53.319 a minority government as long as he's PM. That's the 0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:55.120 price he wants to pay. And he's quite happy to 0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:57.760 see as many Greens as many Teals have the whippand 0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:00.279 over legislation, as long as he keeps the keys. So 0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:04.399 the lodge and obviously the phone called Alan Joyce Andancotas. 0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:05.600 David, how are you reading this? 0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:09.840 I mean you were formerly very senior in John Howard's office. 0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:13.720 A lot of the Teal vote initially was because people 0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:17.240 didn't want to support Scott Morrison ahead of the last election. 0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:20.840 So do you think there might be some who don't. 0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:21.160 Get back in. 0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:25.920 Look, this is a phenomenon that has been around for 0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:28.279 a while. It's not just the Teals. When I was 0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:32.239 working for John Howard, it was the start and the 0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:36.000 resurgence of Pauline Hanson in One Nation that caused John 0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:39.080 Howard the heartburn at that time. Prior to that was 0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:44.000 the Democrats. We've seen Clive Palmer come forward. So the 0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:46.880 Teals of the latest iteration of people parking their votes 0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:52.800 because they're protesting about something, and often the public debate 0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:55.680 and the polity moves on. The big thing for the 0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:57.960 Teals at this election I think is going to be 0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:03.399 to decide which which way they may go should there 0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:06.480 be a big, big swing to the Coalition, which looks likely. 0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:09.200 I mean, I don't think anyone's sort of saying that 0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:11.359 that Peter Dunton is going to win in his own 0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:16.280 right like Steven Miles did over the weekend. But you mean, sorry, 0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:19.480 christophid over the weekend. That's right. But they're going to 0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:23.600 be faced with the decision, are we like Rob Oakshot 0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:26.759 and Tony Windsor who went the wrong way as independence 0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:30.960 and back Julia Gillard and lost their electorates at the 0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:35.000 two thousand and what was it thirteen election? Yeah, or 0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:38.480 are we going to actually be smart about Bob Kattock, 0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:41.000 Because there are some independents that have stuck around for 0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:43.040 a long time and they know which way the win's blowing, 0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:45.840 and they can discern the views of their voters, and 0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:48.759 they're very canny about picking it. This will be an 0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:52.359 important election for the Teals. It also shows that Peter 0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:56.040 Dutton has figured out he cannot win this election by 0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:59.440 just focusing on out of metropolitan seats and shoring up 0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:02.640 those those regional seats where labor made gains at the 0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:05.680 last election. He has to win some of those to 0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:08.759 your seats back, and clearly this advertising campaign is a 0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:12.920 sign that he's marked out that territory, recognizing that yeah, yes, 0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:14.279 that's right, is one you can win in. 0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:17.720 Yeah, really good points there, right, David Gazard, Cameron Milner, 0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:21.160 thank you both, really appreciate your time. Now still to 0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:23.759 come that the Abenezi government has failed to deal with 0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:25.440 the radical Islamic hate. 0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:29.279 Preachers, so now community groups are taking legal action. 0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:33.200 I'll speak about this breaking story with James Patterson. Plus 0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:37.040 I'll speak with a cousin of one young hostage still. 0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:38.360 Held captive in Gaza. 0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:43.680 Yet his interview was censored by the taxpayer funded public broadcaster. 0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:50.279 That's right after the break, welcome back. Well. 0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:53.280 For more than a year, the family of Nama Levy 0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:56.799 has been doing everything in their power to free her 0:37:56.840 --> 0:38:00.480 from the dungeons in Gaza. She was only ninety when 0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:03.560 she was kidnapped. She would have spent her twentieth birthday 0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:06.080 in unimaginable. 0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:06.759 Horrific conditions. 0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:10.759 And I've spoken with former hostages who told me directly 0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:15.520 that women are being beaten, raped and starved. Well here 0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:19.880 in Sydney, Australia, NAMA's cousin Zack has been pushing for 0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:23.520 her release, and he did an interview with SBS, but 0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:28.480 the broadcaster refused to publish it. I understand that SBS 0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:32.759 took a transcript. The managers took a transcript, They highlighted 0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:35.759 the lines that they thought were problematic. They told the 0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:39.040 journalist I met Rehak that he couldn't run it on 0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:42.319 his show, and they dumped the print out in the bin. 0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:46.560 The journalists managed to retrieve and save a copy of 0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:50.359 the interview that he completed with NAMA's cousin Zak, and 0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:51.040 here's a. 0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:51.719 Snippet of that. 0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:57.600 Before October seventh, the plan was for my uncle and 0:38:57.719 --> 0:39:00.160 I hunted to come and visit us in Australia. They 0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:06.000 are amaz They are Ayeleza parent parents and the plan 0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:07.880 was for them to come and visit us in Australia 0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:10.800 and travel in Australia. And after what happened on October seventh, 0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:14.719 we spoke to them and we said that they will 0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:19.040 come to Australia with Nama and that is the plan. 0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:24.480 And you know for that to mean, we must return 0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:25.440 all the hostages. 0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:30.319 Now that interview was complete and ready for broadcast just 0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:34.360 a few days before SBS pulled it. I asked SBS 0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:36.760 Corporate Affairs about this and they said in a statement, 0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:40.720 the Zaki Shaka interview did not air because mister Riehak 0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:42.360 had not completed the story at the. 0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:45.759 Time of his resignation. This is not a case of censorship. 0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:49.760 SBS appreciates the time and insights provided by mister Shaka, 0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:53.239 and SBS Hebrew intends to return to and complete the 0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:57.840 piece when the program recommences. This version of events is 0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:01.120 strongly disputed. I've got in my possession a copy of 0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:02.320 the completed interview. 0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:04.640 I've just played a clip from it to you now. 0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:08.800 Now, I would never censor an interview with the family 0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:10.719 of a current hostage. 0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:13.640 So I'm pleased to say that Zach joins me live 0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:15.040 now here in studio. 0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:17.840 Zach, thank you so much for your time, thank you 0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:19.440 for having me, and I'm so sorry to hear what 0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:21.879 you're all going through. Can you start by telling us 0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:25.799 what happened to your cousin Nama on October seven last year. 0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:30.520 Yeah, so, I'm sure everyone saw the video of Nama 0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:32.680 dragged from the back of the car, the back of 0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:37.000 the jip into the restat of the of the JIP 0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:43.200 that was published live broadcast by the terrorist and I 0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:47.120 saw it on that day. It was very hard to 0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:49.880 identify that this is Nama. Obviously it's been a few 0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:52.840 years since I saw her since we moved to Australia. 0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:55.480 But after we got the news, that was shocking. 0:40:56.880 --> 0:40:58.560 And so she was kidnapped. 0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:01.880 She was nineteen, but she was you know in Israel, 0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:06.240 everyone who every young person has to join the army. 0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:09.080 So she was working as a as an Israeli soldier 0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:10.120 when she was kidnapped. 0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:13.040 Yes, so she arrived at that base just a couple 0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:16.320 of days before the attack on the attack on Israel. 0:41:18.320 --> 0:41:21.880 And yes, she was kidnaped from there, and you know, 0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:27.839 like any other eighteen years old teenager, it is compulsory, 0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:29.759 you have to go to the army. And that's one 0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:33.600 of the things that we were talking about on the podcast. 0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:39.480 Yeah, that podcast never ran. Amitri Haack says the interview 0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:43.400 was pulled, scrapped. He wasn't given permission to run it. 0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:47.680 What's your response to this censorship by a taxpayer funded 0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:49.960 public broadcaster in Australia. 0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:52.880 Look, the purpose of the broadcast was very clear to 0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:56.799 raise the awareness of, you know, the situation. We need 0:41:56.840 --> 0:42:00.440 to release, We need the hostage to be released, you know, 0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:04.520 yesterday and we spoke about that. We spoke about Nama 0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:09.279 what she achieved. She was a peace activist. She went 0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:13.920 to the US with Israeli and Palestinians kids for discussions 0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:17.000 about peace and how the two people can live together. 0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:21.920 Then we spoke about Penny One visiting Israel by this 0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:26.879 but decided not to visit the southern area when all 0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:30.480 other foreign minister decided to go and visit the Kiboz seams. 0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:34.080 They're very disappointed, Yeah, very disappointing. 0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:37.160 Do you think the Australian government's doing enough to help 0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:40.400 the hostages? They're still around one hundred hostages being helped 0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:42.240 in the tunnels of Gaza. 0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:45.279 Your cousin Nama Levi one of them. 0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:47.840 All we hear from Albanisi and Petty Wang is for 0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:51.239 a ceasefire. Why aren't they putting pressure on Qatar to 0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:53.000 force the release of the hostages. 0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:55.520 Yeah, so that's not clear. I don't know why. For 0:42:55.880 --> 0:43:02.200 eleven months, Isabella's firing missiles on Israel and they said nothing. 0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:05.920 But now after Israel started to respond to these attacks, 0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:11.120 they immediately called forces fire regarding the hostages. Yeah, they 0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:15.280 need to put pressure on every anyone who can impact 0:43:15.440 --> 0:43:18.560 the negotiation and close the deal release the hostages. 0:43:18.800 --> 0:43:22.080 Yeah, all right, Zach, thank you very much for joining us. 0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:25.240 Really appreciate your strength. And we're all praying that Nama 0:43:25.440 --> 0:43:26.360 comes home safe. 0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:27.120 Thank you very much. 0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:27.440 Thank you. 0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:29.839 Now still to come. 0:43:29.960 --> 0:43:33.480 The Albenzi government has dared to suggest that Israel and 0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:37.000 Jews are to blame for inflation not coming down in Australia. 0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:39.680 Well, how credible is this? Came when claim when. 0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:44.000 The IMF shows that inflation is falling globally but just 0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:46.839 not in Australia. James Patterson is going to fire up 0:43:46.840 --> 0:43:53.960 about this after the short break. Well, the Albanezy government 0:43:54.120 --> 0:43:58.240 is blaming Israel's war on terror for inflation staying high 0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:03.439 in Australia. This is despite the IMF releasing forecasts showing 0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:07.680 that Australia is expected to record the second highest inflation 0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:11.960 rate out of forty two countries next year. Well, my 0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:15.400 friend and colleague Aaron Molin couldn't have said it better 0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:16.800 when she said this. 0:44:17.640 --> 0:44:21.560 Is he saying that Jews fighting jihadis is responsible for inflation? 0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:23.080 Sounds like it. 0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:25.560 I suspect he needs to look just a little closer 0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:26.120 to home. 0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:33.400 Jews fighting jihadists responsible for inflation unbelievable. Let's bring in 0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:37.400 now shutter Home Affairs Minister James Patterson. James, what do 0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:41.040 you think about this claim? Given the IMF forecast? 0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:43.720 Shari? 0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:46.680 I thought Australia was in trouble under the Albanezy labor government, 0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:48.880 but it turns out it's even worse than I feared. 0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:52.400 Because Jim Chalmer's plan to bring inflation down in Australia 0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:55.400 relies on peace in the Middle East. It relies on 0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:58.319 Harmass and the Hooties and Hesbalah and Iran to stop 0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:01.920 their genocidal war on his It also relies on Israel 0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:05.080 giving up on trying to flee their hostages or giving 0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:09.040 up on removing Hesbuler's rockets aimed at their cities. And 0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:11.960 of course all of this is an elaborate political ruse 0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:14.759 by the government to try and distract Australians from their 0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:17.440 own failings. But as you point out, the IMF believes 0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:20.200 will have the second highest inflation in the world next year. 0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:23.120 Our like minded democracies are all cutting interest rates, whether 0:45:23.160 --> 0:45:25.200 it's the United States or Canada, or New Zealand or 0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:28.279 the United Kingdom, and in Australia there seems like there's 0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:30.320 no hope in sight if you listen to the RBA. 0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:34.000 So Jim Chalmers should take responsibility for his own failings, 0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:37.239 stop trying to blame everyone else for inflation, which is 0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:38.520 a home grown phenomenon. 0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:42.920 Well, Sir James, look, we've seen that the Albanezy government 0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:47.480 and state governments have just failed to deal with radical. 0:45:47.239 --> 0:45:48.960 Islamic hate preachers. Well. 0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:52.799 Now Alexi Dimitriadi and he's been doing excellent reporting in 0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:57.160 the Australia and he's reporting that a Jewish community group 0:45:57.280 --> 0:46:00.560 is now taking one radical cleric to the federal over 0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:04.360 his sermons where he's calling the Jewish community vile and 0:46:04.440 --> 0:46:08.400 treacherous people. James, why is it up to community groups 0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:12.040 to fight this hatred and incitement to violence? 0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:17.280 Well, unfortunately, char it's because the Albanesi government has abandoned 0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:20.680 the Jewish community and we now have the profoundly unjust 0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:24.120 situation where the Jewish community is expected to take its 0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:27.360 own civil action to enforce the law and deal with 0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:31.040 this hatred instead of the federal government using the criminal 0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:34.279 system to take action to protect all of the community 0:46:34.360 --> 0:46:38.080 against extremist hate preachers. It is a crime to incite 0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:42.040 violence against other communities. These people should be charged and 0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:45.840 convicted in the courts instead of being asked to bankroll 0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:48.480 and bear the burden of their own legal action to 0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:50.600 try and deal with this problem. And it's because labor 0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:51.680 has vacated the field. 0:46:52.400 --> 0:46:55.040 The law should be there for everyone, not just for 0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:56.759 some people. And you know, I don't want to get 0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:59.440 into the whole Candice Owen saga now, but this is 0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:02.560 one instant since where Tony Burke is prepared to fight 0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:04.640 anti Semitism, but he won't lift a finger when it's 0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:08.279 hate preachers in his own backyard. James, I want to 0:47:08.280 --> 0:47:11.520 ask you about Iran's ambassador to Australia. He's back in 0:47:11.560 --> 0:47:16.560 the news, this time for calling Israel's retaliatory strikes on Iran. 0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:17.719 A terror attack. 0:47:18.320 --> 0:47:20.120 What do you make of these comments and what do 0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:21.839 you think Pennywong should do about it? 0:47:24.120 --> 0:47:27.839 Well, this is yet more inflammatory and irresponsible rhetoric from 0:47:27.880 --> 0:47:30.800 the Iranian ambassador. He's been hauled into the Department of 0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:33.480 Foreign Affairs and Trades many times now for a cup 0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:36.440 of tea. It clearly is looking for another free cup 0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:38.799 of tea of the Australian taxpayer because he hasn't been 0:47:38.840 --> 0:47:41.480 intimidated and his behavior hasn't changed on any of the 0:47:41.480 --> 0:47:44.839 previous occasions. Think the question for the Albanezer government is 0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:48.160 are there any limits for foreign ambassadors in Australia? Is 0:47:48.200 --> 0:47:50.600 there anything that they could do which would require them 0:47:50.680 --> 0:47:53.080 to be sent back home? It appears on their watch 0:47:53.120 --> 0:47:56.360 the answer is no, and they can behave with complete impunity. 0:47:57.120 --> 0:47:58.759 If it was up to you, if you were in 0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:02.400 government now, you were the Home Affairs Minister instead of 0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:05.799 Tony Burke, would you be encouraging the Iranian ambassador to 0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:06.640 be sent out? 0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:12.480 Well, we have publicly previously said on multiple occasions we 0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:15.640 think he has overstayed his welcome and overstepped his mark. 0:48:15.800 --> 0:48:18.880 In addition to that, we've said that the IRGC, the 0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:22.160 Revolutionary Guard Corps, should be listed as a terrorist organization 0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:24.520 because they are the largest sponsor of Hamas and the 0:48:24.560 --> 0:48:27.200 Hootis and Hesbala and others in the region. So you 0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:30.880 can expect tough action from the Dutton government on the 0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:34.800 Iranian regime because they are the primary destabilizer of that region, 0:48:34.840 --> 0:48:36.680 the primary sponsor of the war in Israel. 0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:40.399 Just on Iran, we saw on Saturday morning our time 0:48:40.440 --> 0:48:43.080 that Israel did carry out strikes. 0:48:42.640 --> 0:48:46.800 Against Iran, as we just mentioned. Do you think that at. 0:48:46.680 --> 0:48:49.560 Some point the international community is going to have to 0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:51.920 come together and deal with the nuclear threat? 0:48:54.280 --> 0:48:57.800 What Israel was entirely justified in responding to those direct 0:48:57.880 --> 0:49:01.280 acts of aggression from Iran on two pres occasions. Iran 0:49:01.360 --> 0:49:04.680 previously attacked Israel only through proxies, but is now openly 0:49:04.719 --> 0:49:07.000 doing so. And it is in all of our interests 0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:10.040 that deterrence is reinforced and that Iran is put back 0:49:10.040 --> 0:49:12.759 in its box, that it is not emboldened, because they 0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:15.720 threaten the stability of not just Israel, but the entire region. 0:49:15.840 --> 0:49:18.120 And the world. And it is Israel which is bearing 0:49:18.120 --> 0:49:21.200 that burden alone, I think, because the international community has 0:49:21.239 --> 0:49:24.120 failed to reign in the Iranian regime and they are 0:49:24.120 --> 0:49:27.759 behaving with impunity, and it's understandable what Israel feels, as 0:49:27.760 --> 0:49:30.120 the state most threatened by that, that they have to 0:49:30.160 --> 0:49:31.600 take action in their own self defense. 0:49:31.880 --> 0:49:34.640 Well said, Well said James Patterson. Thank you very much 0:49:34.760 --> 0:49:37.520 for your time as always, and I'll see you tomorrow 0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:40.040 night at eight o'clock. Right now, here's Paul back from 0:49:40.120 --> 0:49:41.640 Queensland and in the man Cave.