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Speaker 1: Appoche production.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Secrets of the Underworld. I am Neil the

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Speaker 2: muscle comments.

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Speaker 3: And in this episode, I speak with Suzanne Saloon, Elebanese

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Speaker 3: Australian model, ring card girl and Fat Pizza actress.

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Speaker 1: Started from that and then the bullying kicked off. Go

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Speaker 1: back to your country where you're from. You don't belong here.

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Speaker 1: Always got told that through primary school through high school.

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Speaker 1: I turned up on crutches. I said, ain't you shit,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to win this thing. And I did. I

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Speaker 1: won the whole thing. And then people were commenting that

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Speaker 1: she knew underneath the posting, how that Harry Wog beat

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Speaker 1: you look at where I come from. But I'm still standing,

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Speaker 1: and that's what's important. Okay, I got knocked down nine times,

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Speaker 1: but I'm going to get up ten. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: show every one of those people that she said, you're

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Speaker 1: not going to be worth shit. I hope you're watching.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're listening, because I'm still going twenty years later.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Suzan, are you ready?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for accepting to come on my podcast. I

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Speaker 3: really appreciate that when you reached out and you gave

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Speaker 3: me your little story and I thought, well, let's go

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Speaker 3: for this. Let's let's have your story on my podcast.

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Speaker 3: So we are going to get into the nitty gritty

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Speaker 3: of you growing up and your parents coming to Australia

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Speaker 3: and the difficulties of being a Lebanese female.

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Speaker 2: Tell me about you growing up.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up in a suburb of Mount Druert,

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Speaker 1: which was a very poor area.

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Speaker 2: A lot of them I didn't know you came from.

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Speaker 1: No one knows that, wow, because no one would do

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Speaker 1: business with me if they knew that.

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Speaker 2: I did not know that.

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Speaker 1: Shit. People think I come from the hills like Bella Vista,

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Speaker 1: Castle Hill. They all assume that.

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Speaker 3: Well, I didn't think that. I always said Marylands.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like the only Lebanese girl in my

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Speaker 2: What paramount ty were we talking about? You?

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Speaker 1: An area called Shelby, got Shelvy, There's bid Wall, There's

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Speaker 1: Happy Grove.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: My family was the first family that moved into that

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Speaker 1: First Bill, my family didn't originally come to Shawby. They

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Speaker 1: came on a boat to Western Australia from there. This

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Speaker 1: was in the sixties. Before I was born, and then

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Speaker 1: they went from there to Redfern, so my family originally

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Speaker 1: from the city Redfern and Stanmore. That's where my family

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Speaker 1: lived for quite a few years, and then Burwood and

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Speaker 1: then in the seventies they came out to Mount Dreuert

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Speaker 1: and that was a bit of a culture shock for me.

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Speaker 1: Growing up. I was very misunderstood and always the darkest

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Speaker 1: looking girl, like I always had really pale white skin

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Speaker 1: because there was no spray tan back then, and I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be doing spray ten at five years old anyway.

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Speaker 1: But I was so dark and everyone was different. I

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Speaker 1: grew up with Aboriginals, salmon's tongueens. That was literally all Australian,

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Speaker 1: And I'd be going to school and I'd pull out

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Speaker 1: my bag at school and they'd say, what's in your

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Speaker 1: back packing? Like wog boy, and they'd make fun and go,

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Speaker 1: but they got there like thirty years later. That's a

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Speaker 1: was mainly the boys. I'd get bins pegged at my head.

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Speaker 1: You fucking dirty wod go back to your country where

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Speaker 1: you're from. You don't belong here. Always got told that

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Speaker 1: The males, the males. The girls I got bullying from,

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Speaker 1: my mum because I'm the youngest of ten children, like

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Speaker 1: big family. I love my family and mentioned something and

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Speaker 1: I was only builded automotive techniques, like I'm a real

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Speaker 1: since I was a kid, thanks to my brothers. Were

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Speaker 1: miss Saloom, let him down. I said, don't ever talk

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Speaker 1: about my mum again. Because my mum was an immigrant.

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Speaker 1: It came from another country, couldn't speak English, couldn't read

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Speaker 2: Were you the only one from your family getting bullied?

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Speaker 1: Nope. So there's twenty five year age gap between me

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Speaker 2: And you were the only Lebanese family around At Mantu.

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Speaker 1: There was only one other Lebanese family and they lived

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Speaker 1: behind us, and they're the ones that stuck with us.

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Speaker 1: In Cholby, there was no other Lebs. We were there

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Speaker 1: it was more everyone knew who my family was. You

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Speaker 1: kind of knew not to mess with them. Because I

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Speaker 1: and it was hard. It was really hard. You had

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Speaker 1: it was bad, like really bad, really bad. What the

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Speaker 1: my other siblings. Some of them were kind, some of

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Speaker 1: them not so kind. So I just they would say

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Speaker 1: always sy to me, I hope you're the last one,

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Speaker 1: got nieces in their forhew, So you'll be seeing a

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Speaker 1: lot of the Saloum name for a really, really long time.

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Speaker 1: It was hard because you always tried to prove them

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Speaker 1: ozsy I sound aussy to the Aussies, I'm lebo. I

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Speaker 1: other my sisters weren't like that.

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Speaker 2: It was me.

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Speaker 1: I always followed my brothers and what they did, and

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Speaker 1: then pretend that I would stand next to a brand

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Speaker 2: And you're still acting like this. What do you mean

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Speaker 1: But a lot of the situations, like when I was

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Speaker 1: And then that's when it kicked off. It was really bad.

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Speaker 1: So I just kept coming back to school and I

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Speaker 1: I didn't get my mass kicked.

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Speaker 2: Why do you think these people were doing it to.

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Speaker 1: Them, because that's just how they were. They just had

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Speaker 1: a target. I'm not going to prejudice every person of

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Speaker 1: to me. But a lot of them were Wow. And

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Speaker 1: it's funny because I had a girl doing my alterations

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Speaker 1: on my pageant gowns recently and I said, well, you

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Speaker 1: but I was a year above you. I said, did

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Speaker 1: jumped at school and they bullied me and blahlah blah blah,

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Speaker 1: I made friends with a lot of the Islander girls,

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Speaker 1: so they didn't touch me for that reason, and plus

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Speaker 1: they knew who my family were. Again that they were.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't good. And she got pushed out of the school,

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Speaker 1: and so many people others got pushed out of the school,

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Speaker 1: own accord, not because I got bullied out of a school.

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Speaker 2: Who was your first job?

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Speaker 1: I was in real estate for almost a decade.

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Speaker 2: That was your first job when school?

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Speaker 1: That was for real estate. I went and got my

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Speaker 1: I went to the ARII which is only out the

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Speaker 1: I had problems from day one. Day one.

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Speaker 2: You had problems again, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Day one from real estate again. I worked in an

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Speaker 1: area it was called Saint Mary's. There's no ethnics out there,

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Speaker 1: same thing, and the boss would say certain things. And

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Speaker 1: then I went to another real estate job and he

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Speaker 2: To you, talking to you? What are you were talking about.

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Speaker 1: Two thousand and Oh, I'm sure my age now two

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Speaker 1: thousand and four, we're.

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Speaker 2: Talking two thousand and four, and this is going on then.

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Speaker 1: Wow, it was going on all the way until twenty

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Speaker 1: and eleven. That's when I left real estate, never went back.

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Speaker 1: That was the last one that told me about my car,

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Speaker 1: and I was done. I couldn't do it anymore. I couldn't.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to be something that I was, and

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Speaker 1: I remember I was also and this was probably to

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Speaker 1: And then I got asked to do a fundraise ar

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Speaker 1: it was up the road from my workplace. It was

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Speaker 1: I went through my lunch break, I told one person there,

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Speaker 1: to die. So I did that, came back. They heard

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Speaker 1: harsh environment. Not all real estate jobs that I did

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Speaker 1: they were Italian gofless. They were beautiful to me. And

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Speaker 1: And I had a Femily member passed away and I

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Speaker 1: and said, because of you. My workplace is in disarray.

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Speaker 1: I want to choke you. And he went to get

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Speaker 1: all I could smell with his alcohol. And then I

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Speaker 1: He had the door locked and I couldn't get out

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Speaker 1: and I was screaming, and I had two witnesses through

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Speaker 1: It was so disturbing after that, I went and worked

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Speaker 1: I'd never been to counseling until then, and then I

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Speaker 1: everything else, because I was just overwhelmed I went into

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Speaker 1: And then he died just before I turned twenty one,

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Speaker 1: and I had to go back to work, and no

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Speaker 1: I was cornered.

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Speaker 2: Why did you think you were picked on so much?

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Speaker 1: I don't even think it was picked on. I think

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of arrogant and arrow minded people out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was anyone else in that like female

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Speaker 3: workplace picked on like you were in that.

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Speaker 1: That would be getting other issues. But it wasn't like that.

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Speaker 1: I think because I come across really strong, and I

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Speaker 1: come across really abrupt sometimes and I don't mean to.

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Speaker 1: I'm just a blunt person, but I mean no harm.

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Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't hurt a fly unless you talk.

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Speaker 2: About my mum.

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Speaker 1: I'll come for your throat. As we now, I have

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Speaker 1: established and that was one time thing and I was underage,

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Speaker 1: but I just felt like I never fit in no

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Speaker 1: matter where I went, I was never accepted. Didn't matter

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Speaker 1: what I did. In with the modeling. It was even

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Speaker 1: the you know, good to lighten the hair, tighten the stomach.

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Speaker 1: You haven't got what it takes. You're not gonna last long.

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Speaker 1: It was horrible, the shit I used to go through

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Speaker 1: all the time. It was like, why do you look

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Speaker 1: want to lighten my hair. I don't want to change

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Speaker 1: the way I look. Why can't you just accept me

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Speaker 1: for who I am? Because at the time, if you recall,

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Speaker 1: you would know back then it was a whole you know,

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Speaker 1: the whole Zoom magazine. Everyone was literally five nine, washboard body,

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Speaker 1: Kinkutashi in from Western Sydney with the curvy body. I

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Speaker 1: body was always a problem. People would say to me,

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Speaker 1: got nothing left to lose, like there's nothing there, Like

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Speaker 1: I'm heavier now than what I was when I was

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Speaker 1: on stage competing in swimsuit. And I just remember she

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Speaker 1: said to me, like, for five years she wouldn't let

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Speaker 1: I said, why, She goes, I just don't think you've

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Speaker 1: I said, well, guess what. I'm on my own. I've

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Speaker 1: And it took me five years for her to say

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: And I was watching every other girl get through, and

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Speaker 1: half the time I'd go, I was better than her

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Speaker 1: Why were I not up there? Why she just didn't

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Speaker 1: I'd go do the car comps. They were my savior,

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Speaker 1: Like I would go do a car comp. I remember

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Speaker 1: my first car comp and I was so nervous because

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Speaker 1: I'd only done maybe three comps. My first comp I

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Speaker 1: March twentieth. It's actually coming up next week, my anniversary

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Speaker 1: twenty years on stage and I lasted this long. Don't

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Speaker 1: One And I remember I was waiting to go up

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Speaker 1: That was me, mind you the fat ass girl? And

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Speaker 1: I heard it and they're calling out contestant number blah,

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Speaker 1: blastus in and I wasn't getting up because I was

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Speaker 1: my weight. I just broke down crying. It was my

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Speaker 1: first ever attempt on stage. I had no like catwalk lessons.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know what the hell I was wearing. This

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Speaker 1: a little leopard print bikini. The little clipping like blonde

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Speaker 1: really heavyweight. I thought I was hot. Shit. I was

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Speaker 1: more confidence then than I do now. And I looked

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Speaker 1: and then she trashed me straight away and Dutch. She

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Speaker 1: didn't know who I was, she didn't care. She was

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Speaker 1: I went up there on the third call, I was

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Speaker 1: And then I remember I was just like car comp

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get Eastern Creek Raceway. It's my home and

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Speaker 1: I would smash them out. And remember Roll was in

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Speaker 1: It was a great song. It was two thousand and

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Speaker 1: so she won automatically. And I knew that was going

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Speaker 1: then I just kept going. And every time I did

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Speaker 1: power cruise two us in a row, run her up, runer,

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Speaker 1: I just get runner Up'm like, come on, give me

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Speaker 1: a wing. And then I'd done my knee and I'd

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Speaker 1: done my knee. That lady's comp that didn't like me,

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Speaker 1: she'd finally let me through a heat, got to the

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Speaker 1: fine hall. My body was immaculate. My knee gave out.

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Speaker 1: I don't nowhere no warning. Bang My peteller just locked up,

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Speaker 1: I said to one of the girls, because I was

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Speaker 1: you could think of the things I was doing. I'm doing,

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Speaker 1: what the hell? And I said this lift my leg

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Speaker 1: it up and she goes. I said, something is wrong,

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Speaker 1: and they're calling my name and I said, fuck this.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to let her see me in pain

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Speaker 1: because she wants me to pull out the lady. So

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Speaker 1: I just dragged my leg along and finished the comp injured,

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Speaker 1: and I got off the stage. I remember my car

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Speaker 1: clutch in here we go. Cars were having out second

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00:17:53,481 --> 00:17:55,401
Speaker 1: gear the whole way from Buckham Hills all the way

432
00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,640
Speaker 1: back to my mum's house. I said, Mum, get the

433
00:17:57,681 --> 00:17:59,481
Speaker 1: crutches out. We're going to go to the hospital next day.

434
00:17:59,721 --> 00:18:03,561
Speaker 1: So I did, and then I was devastated. I just

435
00:18:03,561 --> 00:18:05,281
Speaker 1: thought my career was done. They told me it was

436
00:18:05,281 --> 00:18:07,241
Speaker 1: a severe damage to my knee. Two and a half

437
00:18:07,281 --> 00:18:09,121
Speaker 1: only three is and rehab in a pool, and I'd

438
00:18:09,120 --> 00:18:13,801
Speaker 1: play the Rocky Balboa song in my head, and you know,

439
00:18:13,801 --> 00:18:16,481
Speaker 1: because you've seen Rocky three, you know when Rockies in

440
00:18:16,481 --> 00:18:19,521
Speaker 1: the pool and Apollo's pushing him because he just gave

441
00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,961
Speaker 1: up on life, believe it or not. Even though it's

442
00:18:21,961 --> 00:18:26,200
Speaker 1: a fictional character, that gave me so much motivation to

443
00:18:26,321 --> 00:18:29,120
Speaker 1: push all right, And I always that was my nickname

444
00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,640
Speaker 1: growing up, was Rocky because I was always like like

445
00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,680
Speaker 1: a real tough girl in school, like I everyone say anything,

446
00:18:33,681 --> 00:18:35,121
Speaker 1: I was a smart ass and give it back to them.

447
00:18:35,201 --> 00:18:37,521
Speaker 1: And then that when I did my knee I thought

448
00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,441
Speaker 1: my life was done. And then I did my Hot

449
00:18:39,481 --> 00:18:42,160
Speaker 1: Fours cover. I wanted that cover since I was thirteen

450
00:18:42,241 --> 00:18:44,561
Speaker 1: years old. And then they offered it to me and

451
00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,761
Speaker 1: my dad had just died, and I said to him,

452
00:18:46,921 --> 00:18:48,401
Speaker 1: I'm not in the mood to feel like I want

453
00:18:48,441 --> 00:18:51,041
Speaker 1: to do a front cover right now. I'm in my culture.

454
00:18:51,041 --> 00:18:53,161
Speaker 1: We're orthodox. Would you the Morning in Black? I said,

455
00:18:53,201 --> 00:18:54,841
Speaker 1: I'm not doing none of that. And then he said,

456
00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,360
Speaker 1: are you're sure you want to pass this up? Because

457
00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,360
Speaker 1: because girls will die for this, and I don't know

458
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Speaker 1: when you're going to get this opportunity again. And I said, no,

459
00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,561
Speaker 1: my family comes first. I'm not in the right headspace. Okay,

460
00:19:04,561 --> 00:19:06,561
Speaker 1: if I'm meant to have this, it'll come back around again.

461
00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,840
Speaker 1: I waited five years. Wow, I've chasing them, chasing them,

462
00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,600
Speaker 1: changing the Hot Fours comps, doing all the photo shoots

463
00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,200
Speaker 1: the car mags and I was on the cover of

464
00:19:15,241 --> 00:19:17,841
Speaker 1: this and featuring in this and winning this, and they

465
00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't touch me because I turned it down. And then

466
00:19:20,001 --> 00:19:22,160
Speaker 1: finally he come back to me, so let's go. And

467
00:19:22,201 --> 00:19:24,080
Speaker 1: then the moment I got the call at that corporate

468
00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,521
Speaker 1: blow state job, my mate rang me Tony because I

469
00:19:27,521 --> 00:19:29,001
Speaker 1: want you to the cover of my car. Said, right

470
00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,281
Speaker 1: is what's wrong? I go, I'm going to go start

471
00:19:31,321 --> 00:19:33,360
Speaker 1: running around the house and land package plays like the

472
00:19:33,681 --> 00:19:35,400
Speaker 1: Home World thing. I was going to start running around it.

473
00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,201
Speaker 1: So I did for a whole week eight tune out

474
00:19:37,201 --> 00:19:40,001
Speaker 1: of a can so I could cut I did cheer

475
00:19:40,041 --> 00:19:42,641
Speaker 1: out of a can right sav many times in a day,

476
00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,801
Speaker 1: and rice and then so I knew I only had

477
00:19:44,801 --> 00:19:46,120
Speaker 1: a lot of bodybuilder friends, so I knew.

478
00:19:46,001 --> 00:19:46,160
Speaker 3: What to do.

479
00:19:46,241 --> 00:19:47,960
Speaker 1: Two hundred grams of this and you know, just to

480
00:19:48,001 --> 00:19:50,201
Speaker 1: cut weight real quick, and I did to lean up

481
00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,200
Speaker 1: and I only had a week, literally a week, and

482
00:19:52,201 --> 00:19:54,120
Speaker 1: then we went down there and then they did my

483
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,561
Speaker 1: cover and it was a dream. I waited so long

484
00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,801
Speaker 1: for this, and then I'd done my knee and the

485
00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,801
Speaker 1: cover came out when I'd done my knee, so that

486
00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,001
Speaker 1: I was I thought my career was done. And then

487
00:20:04,001 --> 00:20:05,960
Speaker 1: when I did my cover, they were unsure if they

488
00:20:06,001 --> 00:20:08,160
Speaker 1: were going to do my cover or another cover. And

489
00:20:08,321 --> 00:20:09,961
Speaker 1: I got a phone call and I was like, this

490
00:20:10,001 --> 00:20:12,000
Speaker 1: can't be happening. I've waited so long for this. And

491
00:20:12,001 --> 00:20:14,321
Speaker 1: then they finally put it out, and then it ended

492
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,721
Speaker 1: up selling out in multiple locations. You couldn't get it anywhere.

493
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,321
Speaker 1: They were unsure if it was going to sell, and

494
00:20:19,521 --> 00:20:22,041
Speaker 1: it sold out in the first twenty four hours. As

495
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,841
Speaker 1: I got good support people around me, my friends and family,

496
00:20:25,481 --> 00:20:28,120
Speaker 1: they didn't give me the push sometimes when I was

497
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 1: doubted myself, always because I was so used to people

498
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,521
Speaker 1: putting me down. From a young age. I was so

499
00:20:33,721 --> 00:20:36,001
Speaker 1: used to that I would do it myself just to

500
00:20:36,001 --> 00:20:38,761
Speaker 1: beat other people to it. And even now I still

501
00:20:38,801 --> 00:20:42,521
Speaker 1: doubt myself and I just wish I didn't. But when

502
00:20:42,521 --> 00:20:45,441
Speaker 1: you're so used to stigma and discrimination or whatever you've

503
00:20:45,441 --> 00:20:48,881
Speaker 1: been through, it wasn't easy. It wasn't easy growing up.

504
00:20:49,001 --> 00:20:51,360
Speaker 1: Like my siblings copped it worse than what I did.

505
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 1: But even what I copped in the swimsuit cops that

506
00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 1: I did, I loved it. I loved being on stage

507
00:20:56,281 --> 00:20:59,160
Speaker 1: that sixty seconds. Everything that went wrong in my life

508
00:20:59,201 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 1: was about me and I was being creative, and I

509
00:21:02,241 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 1: would hear people like the cheering.

510
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,321
Speaker 2: Is that your escape? You reckon?

511
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, That's why I was so good at it, because

512
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,880
Speaker 1: I had to prove so many people wrong that doubted me,

513
00:21:10,921 --> 00:21:13,561
Speaker 1: and I also doubted myself because of the doubting that

514
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 1: I didn't stop and I kept going and going and going,

515
00:21:16,921 --> 00:21:19,640
Speaker 1: and even when everyone said, isn't she getting a bit older,

516
00:21:20,120 --> 00:21:22,281
Speaker 1: I'm like, go fucking scratch. I don't care how old,

517
00:21:22,281 --> 00:21:24,001
Speaker 1: and I'm going to sixty five. If I want to

518
00:21:24,001 --> 00:21:25,361
Speaker 1: get up and do something, I'm going to do it.

519
00:21:25,681 --> 00:21:28,041
Speaker 1: I don't like people telling me no, but it gives

520
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 1: me drive to push harder. So when I want something,

521
00:21:30,120 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 1: I will not stop till I get it.

522
00:21:31,321 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 2: How is your family were doing all that?

523
00:21:32,761 --> 00:21:32,921
Speaker 3: Oh?

524
00:21:33,041 --> 00:21:36,801
Speaker 1: They they were a bit of shock it politely. My

525
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 1: family are conservative. My parents are very like old school Lebanese,

526
00:21:41,961 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 1: you know.

527
00:21:42,120 --> 00:21:43,761
Speaker 2: I mean, when they've seen you on hot floors and

528
00:21:43,761 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 2: all like this reaction.

529
00:21:45,721 --> 00:21:48,121
Speaker 1: My brothers wouldn't one brother, yeah, what's.

530
00:21:47,961 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 2: Going on there?

531
00:21:48,561 --> 00:21:52,001
Speaker 3: Just like they left their cars and some of the

532
00:21:52,041 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 3: brothers wouldn't buy it.

533
00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:54,961
Speaker 1: The fellow ones were fine with it, and I'm like,

534
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:56,681
Speaker 1: all their mates.

535
00:21:56,441 --> 00:21:57,880
Speaker 2: Have got your fucking plasters all over there.

536
00:21:58,961 --> 00:22:00,881
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I'm not gonna lie. It was one time

537
00:22:00,921 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: I was in zoo and some guy at my brother's

538
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 1: workplace saw me in zoo and said, check out how

539
00:22:04,681 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 1: hot this chickis. And it was actually me and my

540
00:22:06,521 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: brother pin him to the wall at work in the

541
00:22:08,321 --> 00:22:08,921
Speaker 1: in the lunch room.

542
00:22:09,001 --> 00:22:11,881
Speaker 2: We can't do that, did you you're in there?

543
00:22:12,041 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, but he's protective and I don't blame him, souse.

544
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 1: I would probably lost my shit too, So we like

545
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,521
Speaker 1: to pin people to walls in my family.

546
00:22:17,561 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 3: I've noticed that you got understand like when you're in

547
00:22:21,961 --> 00:22:22,681
Speaker 3: the magazine like.

548
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,601
Speaker 1: That, Yeah, and I do you tell them though?

549
00:22:24,761 --> 00:22:24,961
Speaker 2: Yeah?

550
00:22:25,241 --> 00:22:28,400
Speaker 3: But when you like and you've got you've got guys

551
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 3: who think they're looking at you like that, that's what sells.

552
00:22:32,201 --> 00:22:34,681
Speaker 1: Yes. But I understand where he's coming from, Middle Eastern

553
00:22:34,721 --> 00:22:36,761
Speaker 1: back and he raised me. He was like a second

554
00:22:36,761 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 1: father to me, and I don't blame him every It's funny.

555
00:22:39,521 --> 00:22:42,961
Speaker 1: Everything that I had, like in my adult life, I

556
00:22:43,001 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: got from my brother and my sister. My sister dated,

557
00:22:45,961 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: I was married to a fighter pro fighter. I was

558
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,161
Speaker 1: around boxing since I was five years old, and that's

559
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:51,761
Speaker 1: what I ended up doing the ring card for the

560
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 1: last fifteen years. My brother was into the bodybuilding and

561
00:22:55,241 --> 00:22:57,281
Speaker 1: the done up cars, and my brother's building rotaries and

562
00:22:57,281 --> 00:22:59,001
Speaker 1: things in the backyard, and he taught me to change

563
00:22:59,041 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 1: it in oil change and I checked my PSI pressure

564
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:02,761
Speaker 1: on a car, like all those types of things. I

565
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,321
Speaker 1: learned from him because that's what I was a round

566
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,201
Speaker 1: and that's how I look at my adult life going

567
00:23:07,201 --> 00:23:09,441
Speaker 1: hang on a minute, modeled all the car shows, did

568
00:23:09,481 --> 00:23:12,321
Speaker 1: the Hot Falls cover, worked at fight nights. I'm like, hey,

569
00:23:12,721 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 1: I've actually didn't realize how much my family influenced what

570
00:23:16,201 --> 00:23:17,241
Speaker 1: I actually did as an adult.

571
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they also can't lose their their ships. If someone.

572
00:23:23,761 --> 00:23:25,601
Speaker 1: Saying that, you know, he was fine with the Hot

573
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,081
Speaker 1: fours cover, it was the zoo And I don't want

574
00:23:27,041 --> 00:23:28,841
Speaker 1: to blame him because it was wasn't wearing that much

575
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:29,521
Speaker 1: in that one side.

576
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 2: Then shouldn't he turn around? Jingos? What do you doing?

577
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:32,801
Speaker 2: He did?

578
00:23:33,441 --> 00:23:36,201
Speaker 1: Were meant, let's not go down that path.

579
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 2: You know?

580
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 3: What was it like? Like, tell me about when you

581
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:46,041
Speaker 3: lost your father. Where were you're in that part of

582
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,801
Speaker 3: your life when you lost your father?

583
00:23:48,481 --> 00:23:51,681
Speaker 1: I was twenty. I was in working in real estate.

584
00:23:52,241 --> 00:23:55,521
Speaker 1: This what was crazy. I just started competing on stage

585
00:23:56,041 --> 00:23:59,561
Speaker 1: five months before and only done two comps. He wasn't

586
00:23:59,561 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: meant to pass away when he did. My dad fell

587
00:24:02,441 --> 00:24:04,961
Speaker 1: at the backstep of my home and I wasn't there.

588
00:24:05,481 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 1: I was at work and every day come home at

589
00:24:08,681 --> 00:24:10,961
Speaker 1: lunchtime and he'd wait for me. And then that day

590
00:24:11,001 --> 00:24:12,761
Speaker 1: I couldn't. It was Saturday, was a sales day, and

591
00:24:12,801 --> 00:24:15,001
Speaker 1: I was allowed to leave, and that's when he fell

592
00:24:15,241 --> 00:24:18,321
Speaker 1: on the backstep and he broke his hip and went

593
00:24:18,321 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 1: in for hip replacement, had cut out arrest on the table,

594
00:24:20,681 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: and then I was there when he died. He died,

595
00:24:22,360 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: actually died on me. That was really messed up to see.

596
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,761
Speaker 1: That disturbed me beyond belief. My life changed as I

597
00:24:28,801 --> 00:24:31,401
Speaker 1: knew it. He died, we had the funeral, and then

598
00:24:31,961 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: three or four days later, I was back to work, but

599
00:24:33,681 --> 00:24:36,761
Speaker 1: nothing happened. I had to left us with nothing, so

600
00:24:36,801 --> 00:24:38,681
Speaker 1: I had to work. That's what I always do. I'm

601
00:24:38,681 --> 00:24:40,521
Speaker 1: always working. Every time you, if you will talk to me,

602
00:24:40,561 --> 00:24:43,481
Speaker 1: I'm always like working. I'm doing something like i'd done

603
00:24:43,561 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: my foot. I still got on the plane and compete

604
00:24:46,481 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: it with the fractured foot. I don't give up on anything.

605
00:24:49,961 --> 00:24:53,321
Speaker 1: I will fight till I take my last breath if

606
00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: I know that I've got to do something. And I

607
00:24:55,441 --> 00:24:57,561
Speaker 1: looked at my mum and she said, you're gotta get

608
00:24:57,561 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: back to work. Said okay, So I did, and my

609
00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:02,761
Speaker 1: boss said, what the hell are you doing here? He

610
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,041
Speaker 1: just buried him on I think it was Wednesday or Thursday.

611
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: I was back on the Monday and I said, I've

612
00:25:07,761 --> 00:25:09,681
Speaker 1: got to work. So that's what I did.

613
00:25:11,321 --> 00:25:13,521
Speaker 3: But what what about what about your your your other

614
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,281
Speaker 3: brothers and sisters like you?

615
00:25:15,321 --> 00:25:16,721
Speaker 1: None of them were living at home at the time

616
00:25:16,721 --> 00:25:19,161
Speaker 1: when my dad died. They were all out married children.

617
00:25:19,201 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: Like I said, there's a gap? Is that age gap?

618
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,081
Speaker 1: And don't love to talk too much about my siblings

619
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:27,321
Speaker 1: because they've all been through a lot. But yeah, they

620
00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 1: helped when they could.

621
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 2: All right, tell me tell me about when you you

622
00:25:31,241 --> 00:25:32,121
Speaker 2: started being ring girl.

623
00:25:33,321 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 3: What made you wanted like, I know your your people,

624
00:25:35,921 --> 00:25:38,681
Speaker 3: are you know in the boxing scene or what's making

625
00:25:38,801 --> 00:25:40,041
Speaker 3: you like?

626
00:25:40,281 --> 00:25:41,641
Speaker 2: Is it? Is it the fact of like.

627
00:25:41,721 --> 00:25:43,321
Speaker 3: Because I'm looking at you the way you're talking to

628
00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:45,281
Speaker 3: me now is okay? I remember when you used to

629
00:25:45,321 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 3: go on the podium and all like this. I remember

630
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 3: all that, you know what I mean, the first one

631
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 3: on and that last one on. So I get the

632
00:25:53,481 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 3: fact of, like I can pitch you why you wanted

633
00:25:56,120 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 3: to be a ring girl because you like to be

634
00:25:59,201 --> 00:26:03,521
Speaker 3: up there. You you and without sounding rude or disrespectful,

635
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,001
Speaker 3: you like to show off yourself.

636
00:26:06,201 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 2: Well you did.

637
00:26:07,001 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: No, that's not how it was.

638
00:26:08,041 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 2: Well that's how we show you.

639
00:26:09,041 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: I don't care how you see. That's not how it was.

640
00:26:11,041 --> 00:26:15,201
Speaker 3: Because someone who's on a podium, to me, you're confident, yeah,

641
00:26:15,241 --> 00:26:18,921
Speaker 3: and you liked you like to get all eyes on you, yes.

642
00:26:18,761 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: And no, believe it or not. Believe it or not.

643
00:26:21,321 --> 00:26:24,201
Speaker 1: For someone who's confident, I'm actually people that are closer

644
00:26:24,201 --> 00:26:26,481
Speaker 1: to me will know I actually have two sides in me.

645
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,321
Speaker 1: Is that real confident whatever kind of woman? And then

646
00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:32,401
Speaker 1: I'm actually quite the opposite. Or I get very shy,

647
00:26:32,481 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: and I do that to stop from being that shy.

648
00:26:34,681 --> 00:26:36,961
Speaker 1: So I just keep getting out of my comfort zone

649
00:26:37,241 --> 00:26:39,921
Speaker 1: when I get in the ring. When I get in there,

650
00:26:40,321 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 1: it's like me competing. I don't hear no noise, there's

651
00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:47,881
Speaker 1: no head noise. It's like I'm at peace and I'm

652
00:26:47,921 --> 00:26:50,721
Speaker 1: in there. It's not about showing off my body. It's

653
00:26:50,801 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 1: like I love the sport. I've been around the sports

654
00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:55,561
Speaker 1: since I was a child. When I'm not even in

655
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,521
Speaker 1: the ring, like even today Jeopardized Fighting and I'm already

656
00:26:59,561 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: missing it two o'clock. It was meant to be on

657
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 1: and I already know like who's fighting when, And I

658
00:27:04,681 --> 00:27:07,041
Speaker 1: love being around the sport. So for me, it's like

659
00:27:07,041 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: like the car modeling wasn't just the modeling. It was

660
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,321
Speaker 1: like I love cars, so I can incorporate both and

661
00:27:11,441 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 1: just around it because that's what made me happy. For

662
00:27:15,201 --> 00:27:17,521
Speaker 1: me being in the ring, it's similar to being on stage.

663
00:27:17,561 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: It's just like that moment the light hits me, and

664
00:27:20,441 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 1: no matter what's going on around me in my life,

665
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,521
Speaker 1: it just doesn't bother me. And I'm in that moment

666
00:27:24,561 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: and I'm enjoying doing something for me where I'm not

667
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,241
Speaker 1: being called to do fifty thousand different things for twenty

668
00:27:30,241 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: five different people. It's like that's my time. Just like

669
00:27:33,321 --> 00:27:35,001
Speaker 1: for example, you want to go to the gym, right,

670
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,521
Speaker 1: you want to bench press whatever, and that's your time

671
00:27:37,561 --> 00:27:39,441
Speaker 1: to chill out or whatever. Everyone has a different way

672
00:27:39,441 --> 00:27:42,001
Speaker 1: of doing it. For me, it's getting in the ring.

673
00:27:42,481 --> 00:27:44,681
Speaker 1: When I get in that ring and I hear that ding,

674
00:27:45,481 --> 00:27:47,321
Speaker 1: it's like I'm going in.

675
00:27:47,961 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 3: All right, there's a question for you them go for

676
00:27:50,201 --> 00:27:53,001
Speaker 3: it because of your Lebanese background.

677
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,281
Speaker 1: Yeah.

678
00:27:54,481 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 3: Do you get any Lebanese old school people coming up

679
00:27:59,001 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 3: to you because of what you do and don't like

680
00:28:02,481 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 3: what you do?

681
00:28:03,041 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: Oh, I've had looks, but that ain't saying it. I

682
00:28:05,281 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: get the opposite where remember when we had all those

683
00:28:07,801 --> 00:28:09,721
Speaker 1: riots and all that other stuff that was going on.

684
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,241
Speaker 1: I actually had a discriminatory mark happened towards me from

685
00:28:13,241 --> 00:28:15,561
Speaker 1: another ethnic And this was at a fight, not a

686
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,041
Speaker 1: need less than what two years ago. And the guy

687
00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:20,961
Speaker 1: said to me he was working there, He said, how

688
00:28:20,961 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 1: does it feel? I said, how does what feel? He

689
00:28:23,441 --> 00:28:25,601
Speaker 1: goes that your national flag is hanging off of everyone's

690
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: revision mirror as a deodorizer, because my flag is a

691
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,041
Speaker 1: cedar tree. And I said, what do you just say

692
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 1: to me? He goes, you heard me? I said, you

693
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,001
Speaker 1: know what I think? I said, you're a piece of shit.

694
00:28:35,481 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: And then he goes, well, my partner was a ring girl.

695
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,281
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, where is she? I said, wherever she is,

696
00:28:40,281 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: good luck to her. I feel sorry for her because

697
00:28:42,441 --> 00:28:44,561
Speaker 1: she's stuck with you. I said, you are an arrogant

698
00:28:44,561 --> 00:28:47,841
Speaker 1: piece of shit. And then people were cheering in the crowd,

699
00:28:48,041 --> 00:28:50,281
Speaker 1: and because they were dark looking, he then goes, oh, look,

700
00:28:50,281 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: I think that's your ceedar boys in the crowd cheering

701
00:28:52,201 --> 00:28:55,441
Speaker 1: you on. And I looked and I went, fuck, we're

702
00:28:55,441 --> 00:28:58,121
Speaker 1: still getting this shit, aren't we. We're still getting it.

703
00:28:58,521 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: And then I got off the thing. I went and

704
00:28:59,961 --> 00:29:01,561
Speaker 1: told the promoter. I said, whoever this guy is that

705
00:29:01,601 --> 00:29:03,841
Speaker 1: you've hired to be in that ring, I'd never met

706
00:29:03,881 --> 00:29:06,241
Speaker 1: him before, hid from another stare. I said, he needs

707
00:29:06,281 --> 00:29:08,041
Speaker 1: to go, he needs to go back and crawl into

708
00:29:08,081 --> 00:29:10,121
Speaker 1: the fucking dirty rock where he came from. Because people

709
00:29:10,281 --> 00:29:13,121
Speaker 1: like him is why that discrimination and racism is still

710
00:29:13,121 --> 00:29:16,521
Speaker 1: alive in this country. I was born here. I'm Australian.

711
00:29:16,921 --> 00:29:17,161
Speaker 2: Yeah.

712
00:29:17,361 --> 00:29:19,041
Speaker 1: Half my siblings were not born here. They were born

713
00:29:19,041 --> 00:29:21,001
Speaker 1: in Lebanon. My parents were born in Lebanon. I'm first

714
00:29:21,001 --> 00:29:24,401
Speaker 1: generation Australian. I am proud to be Lebanese Austraian. And

715
00:29:24,441 --> 00:29:26,961
Speaker 1: that's why I went light in my hair. I refuse,

716
00:29:27,041 --> 00:29:28,681
Speaker 1: I've had my hair. Everyone goes, don't you want to

717
00:29:28,721 --> 00:29:30,441
Speaker 1: do a change. I'm like, what for? I get really

718
00:29:30,441 --> 00:29:33,321
Speaker 1: defensive about it. I like my hair color. Leave me

719
00:29:33,361 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: alone about it, so I won't change my hair for

720
00:29:34,961 --> 00:29:37,561
Speaker 1: the sake of it. I'm very funny about it, but

721
00:29:37,721 --> 00:29:40,681
Speaker 1: I don't really care. I've had that much discrimination against

722
00:29:40,681 --> 00:29:42,241
Speaker 1: me on and off for different things. It was either

723
00:29:42,321 --> 00:29:44,281
Speaker 1: I always felt like I was wrong. You know when

724
00:29:44,281 --> 00:29:46,601
Speaker 1: you just feel like you feel wrong. The car I drove,

725
00:29:46,961 --> 00:29:50,441
Speaker 1: the clothes I wore, my hair color, my body weight,

726
00:29:51,361 --> 00:29:54,321
Speaker 1: my body type. I was too curvy and too bottom heavy.

727
00:29:54,361 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, I felt like I couldn't win, and I

728
00:29:56,521 --> 00:29:59,321
Speaker 1: was like, I loved what I did, but I always

729
00:29:59,361 --> 00:30:01,681
Speaker 1: felt like there was always someone there telling me I

730
00:30:01,841 --> 00:30:04,801
Speaker 1: was wrong. I won a comp at a car show.

731
00:30:05,081 --> 00:30:07,081
Speaker 1: I turned up on crutches. This was an I still

732
00:30:07,081 --> 00:30:09,641
Speaker 1: had the knee problem right and I ran late. I said,

733
00:30:09,641 --> 00:30:12,081
Speaker 1: ain't shit, I'm going to win this thing. And I did.

734
00:30:12,481 --> 00:30:14,681
Speaker 1: I won the whole thing. They gave me the big

735
00:30:14,721 --> 00:30:16,321
Speaker 1: winners check this that. And there was a blonde girl

736
00:30:16,321 --> 00:30:18,041
Speaker 1: next to me. And I looked after this girl and

737
00:30:18,041 --> 00:30:19,961
Speaker 1: put her in a lot of model castings. I owned

738
00:30:19,961 --> 00:30:22,521
Speaker 1: a model management company, didn't take a fee from this girl.

739
00:30:22,641 --> 00:30:25,441
Speaker 1: Always helped her out. She shared the post that she'd

740
00:30:25,481 --> 00:30:27,841
Speaker 1: lost to me, and then people were commenting that she

741
00:30:27,921 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: knew underneath the posting how that Harry Wog beat you?

742
00:30:30,801 --> 00:30:32,921
Speaker 1: And I went, why would you allow me to get

743
00:30:32,961 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: fucking maued like that by people that you knew? And

744
00:30:35,241 --> 00:30:37,401
Speaker 1: it was on the ninety six point one page because

745
00:30:37,441 --> 00:30:40,161
Speaker 1: they were the judges. So I was burning about it

746
00:30:40,161 --> 00:30:42,601
Speaker 1: because it was like, again, I've just won. Instead of

747
00:30:42,641 --> 00:30:46,121
Speaker 1: someone congratulating me and celebrating me, which most did, I

748
00:30:46,201 --> 00:30:48,601
Speaker 1: always spotted the ones because you can't help it. You

749
00:30:48,601 --> 00:30:51,161
Speaker 1: look at the criticis and you go, there's always someone

750
00:30:51,161 --> 00:30:52,841
Speaker 1: that's got to put shit on me. Just let me

751
00:30:52,881 --> 00:30:54,921
Speaker 1: have my moment and let me just have this because

752
00:30:55,161 --> 00:30:56,801
Speaker 1: I worked hard for this. I even rocked up in

753
00:30:56,801 --> 00:30:59,561
Speaker 1: crutches even after it. I took the winner's check, put

754
00:30:59,561 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: it in the back of my car, I drove to

755
00:31:01,241 --> 00:31:03,641
Speaker 1: Pine Grove Cemetery, got out, and I showed my dad

756
00:31:03,961 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: at the grave. That's all I wanted to do. I

757
00:31:06,281 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: didn't care about partying and showing off and posing. I

758
00:31:10,441 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: just wanted to know I had a goal and I

759
00:31:13,281 --> 00:31:15,121
Speaker 1: saw it through to the end. No matter whether it

760
00:31:15,161 --> 00:31:17,041
Speaker 1: was a win or it wasn't a win, it was

761
00:31:17,081 --> 00:31:19,321
Speaker 1: a win. In my head because no matter what adversities

762
00:31:19,361 --> 00:31:21,401
Speaker 1: I had, whether it was my hair color or my

763
00:31:21,481 --> 00:31:24,521
Speaker 1: body shape or me being on crutches, I still gave

764
00:31:24,561 --> 00:31:27,121
Speaker 1: it everything, and I still showed up no matter what happened.

765
00:31:27,161 --> 00:31:28,841
Speaker 1: And that was the point. I was trying to prove

766
00:31:29,321 --> 00:31:33,441
Speaker 1: where I lived. So many people were pigeonholed, going, oh,

767
00:31:33,801 --> 00:31:35,281
Speaker 1: you're going to be a single mum with five kids

768
00:31:35,361 --> 00:31:37,921
Speaker 1: or whatever whatever. Who cares? I tried to show that

769
00:31:37,921 --> 00:31:39,721
Speaker 1: look at where I come from, Look all the shit

770
00:31:39,761 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: I went through. But I'm still standing, and that's what's important. Okay,

771
00:31:43,761 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: I got knocked down fucking nine times, but I'm going

772
00:31:45,761 --> 00:31:47,761
Speaker 1: to get up ten. I'm going to show every one

773
00:31:47,881 --> 00:31:49,801
Speaker 1: of those people that said you're not going to be

774
00:31:49,801 --> 00:31:52,041
Speaker 1: worth shit. I hope you're watching. I hope you're listening,

775
00:31:52,041 --> 00:31:55,201
Speaker 1: because I'm still going twenty years later. Thanks for the motivation.

776
00:31:55,401 --> 00:31:57,121
Speaker 1: That's what I want to say to them.

777
00:31:57,441 --> 00:32:01,281
Speaker 3: There was a pissue off when you get certain Lebanese

778
00:32:01,441 --> 00:32:03,401
Speaker 3: stereotypes ruin it for you.

779
00:32:03,281 --> 00:32:05,881
Speaker 1: Guys, Oh look what happens all the time. But I

780
00:32:05,881 --> 00:32:08,841
Speaker 1: think there's stereotypes in every nationality. There's always going to

781
00:32:08,841 --> 00:32:09,801
Speaker 1: be someone's going to spoil the.

782
00:32:09,761 --> 00:32:12,401
Speaker 3: Brother but at the moment, at the moment, it's that

783
00:32:12,641 --> 00:32:15,921
Speaker 3: nationality that they target the most, you know what I mean,

784
00:32:16,081 --> 00:32:17,121
Speaker 3: especially in the media.

785
00:32:17,201 --> 00:32:18,601
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot, you know what I mean, It

786
00:32:18,681 --> 00:32:20,561
Speaker 1: is a lot. It is And again it's one of

787
00:32:20,601 --> 00:32:22,561
Speaker 1: those things where this is why I try to do

788
00:32:22,641 --> 00:32:25,041
Speaker 1: what I do, to try and wash out the bad

789
00:32:25,201 --> 00:32:27,201
Speaker 1: and try and promote the good that hey, look she's

790
00:32:27,201 --> 00:32:29,881
Speaker 1: from that background. To look what she's trying to accomplish.

791
00:32:30,041 --> 00:32:32,681
Speaker 1: Look what she's trying to achieve. You know, what can

792
00:32:32,721 --> 00:32:34,681
Speaker 1: you do? There's always going to be a stereotype, There's

793
00:32:34,681 --> 00:32:42,041
Speaker 1: always going to be something tell me about. Oh my gosh, Yeah,

794
00:32:42,081 --> 00:32:44,361
Speaker 1: that was amazing to do. That's another thing, like it

795
00:32:44,401 --> 00:32:46,161
Speaker 1: was funny. It was like I had a manifest but that.

796
00:32:46,441 --> 00:32:49,081
Speaker 3: Would have suited you down to tea because of the

797
00:32:49,161 --> 00:32:51,081
Speaker 3: way the show's run and the way the way they

798
00:32:51,121 --> 00:32:52,801
Speaker 3: go on, you know, you know what I.

799
00:32:52,761 --> 00:32:54,881
Speaker 2: Mean, it's all about fuckings and.

800
00:32:54,881 --> 00:32:57,801
Speaker 1: It's almost funny. Paulie said to me back then, I

801
00:32:57,841 --> 00:32:59,681
Speaker 1: need you to talk more Woggy, You talk too Ozzy,

802
00:33:00,121 --> 00:33:05,521
Speaker 1: And I said, because again, I I had to watch

803
00:33:05,601 --> 00:33:07,041
Speaker 1: my time and my menorisms. I was so used to

804
00:33:07,121 --> 00:33:09,001
Speaker 1: doing that. I was like I can't know where. He

805
00:33:09,041 --> 00:33:11,281
Speaker 1: sent me in for audition at our time, and I said,

806
00:33:11,281 --> 00:33:14,801
Speaker 1: who am I auditioning with? He goes, Tahi, I love hubby.

807
00:33:15,121 --> 00:33:17,921
Speaker 1: He's the best. And then I met him and he's like,

808
00:33:17,961 --> 00:33:18,641
Speaker 1: all right.

809
00:33:18,641 --> 00:33:19,121
Speaker 2: He's all right.

810
00:33:19,121 --> 00:33:21,361
Speaker 1: You you know you were talking. You get the camera

811
00:33:21,401 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: out and you go, I want you to talk about

812
00:33:23,601 --> 00:33:26,681
Speaker 1: I stolen TV or some shit. So I would talk

813
00:33:26,721 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: about it like, oh, yeah, this is Jack, this is

814
00:33:28,521 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: Fri blah blah blah, this is what happened. And I go,

815
00:33:31,281 --> 00:33:32,921
Speaker 1: is it too much? I go, I think I screwed

816
00:33:32,961 --> 00:33:34,841
Speaker 1: the whole interview. I said thanks so much, and I left.

817
00:33:35,121 --> 00:33:37,921
Speaker 1: I'm walking downstairs and the girl goes, hey, where are

818
00:33:37,921 --> 00:33:41,281
Speaker 1: you going? Yeah you finished? I go, oh, Pauly wants

819
00:33:41,281 --> 00:33:44,241
Speaker 1: you back upstairs. So I got back upstairs. I'm like, yeah, yeah,

820
00:33:44,241 --> 00:33:46,721
Speaker 1: I like you. You got the job. And I went

821
00:33:47,201 --> 00:33:51,361
Speaker 1: for real. He goes, yeah, started crying. I started crying

822
00:33:51,401 --> 00:33:54,561
Speaker 1: every blessing that I had. As crazy as this sounds,

823
00:33:54,561 --> 00:33:56,561
Speaker 1: and I know that it's because my dad made it happen.

824
00:33:57,081 --> 00:34:00,601
Speaker 1: Happened just after my father died, and I knew he

825
00:34:00,641 --> 00:34:03,521
Speaker 1: was pushing me because it was funny. I had all

826
00:34:03,521 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: that on my wall. I'd watch Fat Pizza. I was

827
00:34:05,241 --> 00:34:07,281
Speaker 1: like sixteen seventy. I always thought Rocky was hot.

828
00:34:07,321 --> 00:34:08,441
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, he's.

829
00:34:08,281 --> 00:34:10,681
Speaker 1: Such a weapon. Yeah, and then all of a sudden

830
00:34:10,721 --> 00:34:12,361
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, no, the other girl had to leave

831
00:34:12,361 --> 00:34:14,241
Speaker 1: that with his girlfriend. We're gonna pull you in now.

832
00:34:14,281 --> 00:34:17,241
Speaker 1: I was like, are you serious? Are you serious? I

833
00:34:17,321 --> 00:34:19,521
Speaker 1: was like losing it, going this is the best thing

834
00:34:19,521 --> 00:34:21,801
Speaker 1: that's happened to me since anything. And then I did

835
00:34:21,841 --> 00:34:23,321
Speaker 1: it with him, and then he's like, all right, I

836
00:34:23,321 --> 00:34:25,281
Speaker 1: want you to do drop Fest for me. I said, like,

837
00:34:25,441 --> 00:34:27,921
Speaker 1: where's a script. He goes, there is no script. What

838
00:34:27,921 --> 00:34:29,521
Speaker 1: do you want me to do? He goes, there's a

839
00:34:29,601 --> 00:34:32,761
Speaker 1: Lebanese comedian, Anthony Celemi. He goes, you and him are

840
00:34:32,841 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: the main characters, your brother and sister. It just happened

841
00:34:36,001 --> 00:34:38,241
Speaker 1: up with the Coronela riots, and I was on Coronula

842
00:34:38,321 --> 00:34:41,881
Speaker 1: Beach wearing a Lebanon T shirt. And then the chick goes, wow,

843
00:34:42,361 --> 00:34:46,081
Speaker 1: costume department was really really vivid. Was what they chose

844
00:34:46,161 --> 00:34:49,841
Speaker 1: a costume department. This is from my wardrobe and she goes, wow,

845
00:34:50,241 --> 00:34:53,841
Speaker 1: all the gold, I said, the gold, the Lebanon shirt, everything,

846
00:34:53,881 --> 00:34:56,721
Speaker 1: and she goes right, and I went, you guys didn't

847
00:34:56,721 --> 00:34:58,921
Speaker 1: do nothing. What's offered me? I couldn't wear that. I

848
00:34:58,961 --> 00:35:00,881
Speaker 1: couldn't do it. So I wore my own thing. And

849
00:35:01,041 --> 00:35:03,521
Speaker 1: why its happened to you? Young hot and Lebanese was

850
00:35:03,601 --> 00:35:07,881
Speaker 1: the shirt seated tree. And I'm walking on Cronulla Beach

851
00:35:08,361 --> 00:35:11,001
Speaker 1: after the riots had just happened. Oh my god, we're

852
00:35:11,001 --> 00:35:13,041
Speaker 1: gonna get pinned, for sure, we're gonna get pumped. So

853
00:35:13,081 --> 00:35:15,521
Speaker 1: I'm walking with Anthony and he's in a tracksuit. It's

854
00:35:15,521 --> 00:35:18,121
Speaker 1: a hot summer's day and we're arguing on the beach

855
00:35:18,161 --> 00:35:19,881
Speaker 1: and these people are looking thinking, oh my god, there's

856
00:35:19,921 --> 00:35:23,121
Speaker 1: gonna be another credal right, mind you. It ended up

857
00:35:23,121 --> 00:35:26,121
Speaker 1: getting semi finals trot Fest Film Festival.

858
00:35:26,161 --> 00:35:26,521
Speaker 2: Wow.

859
00:35:26,601 --> 00:35:28,881
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that was I was twenty one years old.

860
00:35:29,321 --> 00:35:31,921
Speaker 1: That was the start of it. I just loved being

861
00:35:31,961 --> 00:35:34,321
Speaker 1: in that environment like I felt alive. You know when

862
00:35:34,321 --> 00:35:36,601
Speaker 1: you just feel you know what you did for work,

863
00:35:37,041 --> 00:35:39,481
Speaker 1: you just you buzz off it and you just want

864
00:35:39,521 --> 00:35:41,561
Speaker 1: to do something and go this is my dream. And now,

865
00:35:41,561 --> 00:35:43,961
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, even though I always was

866
00:35:43,961 --> 00:35:46,161
Speaker 1: a tomboy and have a lot of confidence, I added

867
00:35:46,161 --> 00:35:48,681
Speaker 1: as tracksuits all the time, it's all I owned, head

868
00:35:48,721 --> 00:35:51,401
Speaker 1: to toe. That's why I'm like the costume department. It's

869
00:35:51,481 --> 00:35:54,161
Speaker 1: my wardrobe this one. And then I thought to myself,

870
00:35:54,241 --> 00:35:56,601
Speaker 1: you know what, I always thought I was going to

871
00:35:56,721 --> 00:35:59,041
Speaker 1: end up on TV or doing something big. I could

872
00:35:59,121 --> 00:36:01,121
Speaker 1: see it when I was a kid that I wanted

873
00:36:01,161 --> 00:36:03,401
Speaker 1: some a different life, you know. And all my family

874
00:36:03,401 --> 00:36:05,761
Speaker 1: were either in corporate or run business and all these things,

875
00:36:06,161 --> 00:36:08,881
Speaker 1: and it just never appealed to me. I just wanted

876
00:36:09,401 --> 00:36:12,761
Speaker 1: more for myself than just living. And that's nothing wrong

877
00:36:12,801 --> 00:36:14,361
Speaker 1: what they do. It's fantastic what they do. But I

878
00:36:14,441 --> 00:36:17,601
Speaker 1: just wanted I don't know. I just always was like media.

879
00:36:17,721 --> 00:36:20,481
Speaker 1: It was like my thing that pizza was mad. I'll

880
00:36:20,521 --> 00:36:21,681
Speaker 1: do it again in the half and they pulled me

881
00:36:21,721 --> 00:36:24,361
Speaker 1: back in how many years later when he reboot it

882
00:36:24,361 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, and they pulled me back in again,

883
00:36:27,521 --> 00:36:30,921
Speaker 1: and he goes, let's go around too. That so beautiful, beautiful,

884
00:36:31,001 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: can't wait.

885
00:36:32,041 --> 00:36:33,681
Speaker 3: I see I see rub all the time at the

886
00:36:33,761 --> 00:36:35,201
Speaker 3: Sydney Kings game, because yeah.

887
00:36:35,041 --> 00:36:38,361
Speaker 1: My sister actually is one of the bosses there Sidney Kings.

888
00:36:38,441 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: There you go, there, you go.

889
00:36:41,641 --> 00:36:43,761
Speaker 3: Well, have you ever been have you ever been like

890
00:36:43,961 --> 00:36:46,761
Speaker 3: put in a situation now where you feel you were scared,

891
00:36:47,121 --> 00:36:49,121
Speaker 3: like like with what's going on in your life. You

892
00:36:49,161 --> 00:36:51,401
Speaker 3: know that any situations that you've gone oh shit.

893
00:36:52,801 --> 00:36:56,241
Speaker 1: Not with the modeling stuff. It was more in the

894
00:36:56,281 --> 00:37:00,441
Speaker 1: normal corporate jobs that I did. Yeah, when obviously when

895
00:37:00,481 --> 00:37:01,921
Speaker 1: I got pinto the wall at work and I had

896
00:37:01,921 --> 00:37:04,321
Speaker 1: to go for all that was messed up, that was disturbing.

897
00:37:05,081 --> 00:37:06,321
Speaker 1: She thought he was going to kill me. I thought

898
00:37:06,321 --> 00:37:08,001
Speaker 1: he was going to choke me out. And I just

899
00:37:08,041 --> 00:37:09,921
Speaker 1: remember seeing my life flash before my eyes, going, this

900
00:37:10,601 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: guy's going to throttle me. He was a big man too,

901
00:37:13,561 --> 00:37:16,161
Speaker 1: and I thought I'm gone. And then when I was

902
00:37:16,201 --> 00:37:19,081
Speaker 1: doing all the housing inspections when I worked for the government,

903
00:37:19,441 --> 00:37:21,041
Speaker 1: I open one of the doors in a house in

904
00:37:21,121 --> 00:37:23,961
Speaker 1: Collaton and a guy he woke up. He was on

905
00:37:23,961 --> 00:37:25,521
Speaker 1: the floor in the bedroom and he came out with

906
00:37:25,801 --> 00:37:28,321
Speaker 1: a butcher knife. He was a squatter. He was squatting

907
00:37:28,321 --> 00:37:31,801
Speaker 1: in the house. Fucking That was that one. And then

908
00:37:31,841 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: when I was at work and then the receptionist goes,

909
00:37:36,001 --> 00:37:37,721
Speaker 1: there's a gentleman. He seems a bit of radick, but

910
00:37:37,761 --> 00:37:41,081
Speaker 1: he wants to talk to the asset officer. That happened

911
00:37:41,121 --> 00:37:43,081
Speaker 1: to be me. It's it was always fucking me. I said,

912
00:37:43,081 --> 00:37:45,001
Speaker 1: all right, no worries. What's he want? So I walk

913
00:37:45,041 --> 00:37:47,401
Speaker 1: out my little power suit and I said, yes, can

914
00:37:47,441 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: I help you? And he had something in his hand.

915
00:37:49,761 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: He goes, I need to give you this. I said,

916
00:37:51,521 --> 00:37:53,121
Speaker 1: what the hell's that? He wants to go placet and winesay,

917
00:37:53,161 --> 00:37:55,561
Speaker 1: I'm not touching that shit. What's that? He goes, I

918
00:37:55,641 --> 00:37:58,761
Speaker 1: think it's a bomb? I found it. I said, are

919
00:37:58,801 --> 00:38:01,561
Speaker 1: you kidding me? And there was a buzzer underneath the table.

920
00:38:01,841 --> 00:38:04,321
Speaker 1: I'm smacking this buzzer. I could have broke the whole thing. Mean,

921
00:38:04,321 --> 00:38:06,761
Speaker 1: the whole table was to go with it. The security

922
00:38:06,801 --> 00:38:08,921
Speaker 1: comes out, two little pip squeaks. What are they going

923
00:38:08,961 --> 00:38:10,681
Speaker 1: to do? I mean, you could have done some damage.

924
00:38:12,041 --> 00:38:14,321
Speaker 1: You could have pumped him in two seconds, right, just

925
00:38:14,321 --> 00:38:16,041
Speaker 1: just got the apartment, just flipped him to the ground.

926
00:38:16,081 --> 00:38:19,121
Speaker 1: You know, what's this kind of guy gonna do? He

927
00:38:19,241 --> 00:38:20,881
Speaker 1: just come from his lunch break. He looked like he

928
00:38:20,921 --> 00:38:22,841
Speaker 1: was still eating and then he's come out and I'm like,

929
00:38:23,321 --> 00:38:25,401
Speaker 1: I was at it. That's the powerhouse behind me. It's

930
00:38:25,401 --> 00:38:27,961
Speaker 1: going to stop this guy with the bomb. Beautiful And

931
00:38:28,001 --> 00:38:30,241
Speaker 1: then I ran back and I said there's a bomb.

932
00:38:30,281 --> 00:38:32,641
Speaker 1: I had to screamed, saying, this guy's got a potential bomb.

933
00:38:33,001 --> 00:38:35,801
Speaker 1: Everyone get the hell out of here. Now. There was

934
00:38:35,841 --> 00:38:37,721
Speaker 1: like a glass put partition there, so that was all

935
00:38:37,761 --> 00:38:40,001
Speaker 1: locked off. We had to go in lockdown. Cops had

936
00:38:40,001 --> 00:38:42,001
Speaker 1: to come straight away. They took it, They took him

937
00:38:42,041 --> 00:38:44,241
Speaker 1: in the custody. They pulled me in because they thought

938
00:38:44,241 --> 00:38:46,961
Speaker 1: I had the powder residue on my hands, and they

939
00:38:47,001 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: tested my hands and they go, there's nothing on there,

940
00:38:49,481 --> 00:38:51,041
Speaker 1: and then they checked it and it was a it

941
00:38:51,161 --> 00:38:53,801
Speaker 1: was a bomb, but it was it was a dud

942
00:38:53,801 --> 00:38:56,281
Speaker 1: if that makes sense, like a So he brought it

943
00:38:56,321 --> 00:39:01,001
Speaker 1: into shamey wow, and I was like, Okay, no problem.

944
00:39:01,201 --> 00:39:03,361
Speaker 1: And that's that's what I meant, Like the government side

945
00:39:03,361 --> 00:39:04,881
Speaker 1: of it when I managed and they were all him

946
00:39:04,881 --> 00:39:07,641
Speaker 1: out draw those houses as well. No judgment there because

947
00:39:07,641 --> 00:39:09,721
Speaker 1: I've grew up in that area, but one side of

948
00:39:09,721 --> 00:39:13,041
Speaker 1: it's pretty pretty bad. And then that happened, and then

949
00:39:13,081 --> 00:39:15,521
Speaker 1: that happened, and then I'm getting phone calls saying this

950
00:39:15,601 --> 00:39:17,161
Speaker 1: house has been smashed up. You've gotta go down to

951
00:39:17,161 --> 00:39:20,081
Speaker 1: the police station. File reports, another report, another report, and

952
00:39:20,121 --> 00:39:22,201
Speaker 1: I'm going, oh, I do I spend time in the

953
00:39:22,241 --> 00:39:24,121
Speaker 1: police station. You think I would at least break the

954
00:39:24,161 --> 00:39:26,361
Speaker 1: lawd to be fucking down there myself. I'm doing it

955
00:39:26,361 --> 00:39:29,281
Speaker 1: for everybody else. Or the courthouse was doing my head in.

956
00:39:30,001 --> 00:39:32,241
Speaker 1: I want danger money, give me something. They won't give

957
00:39:32,321 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: me nothing. And I was going by myself to these things,

958
00:39:35,561 --> 00:39:37,801
Speaker 1: and I'm in my twenties. What am I gonna do? Yeah,

959
00:39:37,841 --> 00:39:39,521
Speaker 1: I got a big mouth, but I'm not gonna pump

960
00:39:39,521 --> 00:39:43,201
Speaker 1: these guys with machetes and butcher knives and bombs and

961
00:39:43,201 --> 00:39:46,721
Speaker 1: everything else. I was shit scared, going, this is really bad,

962
00:39:47,561 --> 00:39:50,121
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting there, going, do I really have to

963
00:39:50,121 --> 00:39:52,161
Speaker 1: put up with this concern a living? Because I don't

964
00:39:52,201 --> 00:39:55,041
Speaker 1: want to deal with this anymore, Like I'd had enough.

965
00:39:55,641 --> 00:39:58,001
Speaker 1: And then i just remember, like all those things going on,

966
00:39:58,041 --> 00:40:01,521
Speaker 1: and I'm like, if I were telling people, they're going,

967
00:40:01,801 --> 00:40:04,041
Speaker 1: is this bitch making it up? I go, yeah, it's

968
00:40:04,081 --> 00:40:06,681
Speaker 1: a book, fictional book because people would think I'm making

969
00:40:06,721 --> 00:40:08,881
Speaker 1: these stories up. I'm like, no. The amount of people

970
00:40:08,881 --> 00:40:10,641
Speaker 1: that were off their face that I'd have to deal

971
00:40:10,681 --> 00:40:13,481
Speaker 1: with on a day to day basis was scary. And

972
00:40:13,561 --> 00:40:15,281
Speaker 1: I was meant to be coming in there with another

973
00:40:15,361 --> 00:40:17,241
Speaker 1: lady and she said, I'm not going in there. She

974
00:40:17,361 --> 00:40:18,921
Speaker 1: was too scared to attend the appointments with me, so

975
00:40:18,921 --> 00:40:20,761
Speaker 1: I'd have to go by myself. And then I found

976
00:40:20,761 --> 00:40:23,961
Speaker 1: a dead body and that was that was it. I

977
00:40:24,001 --> 00:40:27,881
Speaker 1: got called to Whalen and then I'll never forget it. It

978
00:40:27,881 --> 00:40:30,361
Speaker 1: was a Friday afternoon. I just ate a kebab, right,

979
00:40:30,641 --> 00:40:36,161
Speaker 1: I was, but I was so hungry. I can't eat

980
00:40:36,161 --> 00:40:38,841
Speaker 1: it any more, but aid reflus, it's really bad. But

981
00:40:39,201 --> 00:40:41,801
Speaker 1: I was so hungry. And where I worked there was

982
00:40:41,801 --> 00:40:44,201
Speaker 1: a mad kebab shop next door, and I was so hungry.

983
00:40:44,201 --> 00:40:46,681
Speaker 1: I was hanging for a kebab. So I was eating right.

984
00:40:46,721 --> 00:40:49,161
Speaker 1: I hadn't eaten all day. Finally ate the kebab. I

985
00:40:49,161 --> 00:40:51,201
Speaker 1: had the worst heartburn. And they called me going go

986
00:40:51,241 --> 00:40:53,361
Speaker 1: to Whaleen, go to this house, and oh god, okay.

987
00:40:53,361 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: Every time they said go to this house, you knew

988
00:40:55,001 --> 00:40:57,281
Speaker 1: it was bad. So I go down there. The whole

989
00:40:57,281 --> 00:40:59,881
Speaker 1: street's blocked off for they listen. I got to come

990
00:40:59,881 --> 00:41:01,281
Speaker 1: in here. We're managing this house.

991
00:41:01,361 --> 00:41:01,841
Speaker 2: D d da dah.

992
00:41:01,841 --> 00:41:04,801
Speaker 1: It's all taped off. And I saw the I know

993
00:41:04,881 --> 00:41:07,201
Speaker 1: the forensic now. I played on the on the van

994
00:41:08,681 --> 00:41:11,001
Speaker 1: and then I was like, oh god, forensics sit here

995
00:41:11,761 --> 00:41:13,521
Speaker 1: and I rock up and there's there's a dead It

996
00:41:13,561 --> 00:41:15,721
Speaker 1: was face down, but it was dead, been gone a while,

997
00:41:16,161 --> 00:41:20,921
Speaker 1: six passports, and I went, someone's bopped him off. I

998
00:41:21,001 --> 00:41:24,041
Speaker 1: knew straightaway, and I thought, this guy's into some crazy shit.

999
00:41:24,721 --> 00:41:26,961
Speaker 1: And then I saw that, saw his hand, saw the

1000
00:41:27,001 --> 00:41:28,961
Speaker 1: maggots because I'd been there for a while. And then

1001
00:41:29,041 --> 00:41:31,521
Speaker 1: I walked out and whatever I had of the kabab

1002
00:41:31,801 --> 00:41:34,601
Speaker 1: didn't last long and it was gone, and I was

1003
00:41:34,721 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: like disturbed from that, and I was just like, how

1004
00:41:38,521 --> 00:41:40,081
Speaker 1: much more shit do I go to?

1005
00:41:40,081 --> 00:41:40,321
Speaker 2: See?

1006
00:41:40,361 --> 00:41:44,561
Speaker 1: Man? This was disturbing staff And I remember I said, yep,

1007
00:41:45,601 --> 00:41:48,161
Speaker 1: they gave me slimmi. Okay, Well, why wasn't the sheep

1008
00:41:48,201 --> 00:41:50,841
Speaker 1: put over him for a start? Oh we thought we did,

1009
00:41:51,001 --> 00:41:53,761
Speaker 1: No knew. I saw his face or the back of

1010
00:41:53,801 --> 00:41:57,041
Speaker 1: his head and the hands, and I was done. But yeah,

1011
00:41:57,041 --> 00:42:00,161
Speaker 1: it was always never felt safe. It was always scary,

1012
00:42:00,241 --> 00:42:03,241
Speaker 1: and it was like people don't realize, right, I'm doing

1013
00:42:03,241 --> 00:42:05,041
Speaker 1: the modeling and all these things like, oh, she doesn't

1014
00:42:05,041 --> 00:42:09,041
Speaker 1: glamorous job. And then nine to five, I'm looking at

1015
00:42:09,121 --> 00:42:11,921
Speaker 1: riga mortar, so I'm looking at you know, maggots, and

1016
00:42:12,001 --> 00:42:14,761
Speaker 1: I'm looking at you know, people smashing cabinet draws in

1017
00:42:14,761 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: front of me, having a panic attack and going off,

1018
00:42:17,521 --> 00:42:19,761
Speaker 1: I'm going to the court rooms and I'm going to

1019
00:42:19,801 --> 00:42:22,281
Speaker 1: the corp shops and I'm going I just wanted to

1020
00:42:22,321 --> 00:42:23,801
Speaker 1: eat my ababin peas. I just want to have a

1021
00:42:23,881 --> 00:42:26,881
Speaker 1: decent meal and just get my money just so I

1022
00:42:26,881 --> 00:42:28,841
Speaker 1: can pay the bills at home. And I was like,

1023
00:42:28,921 --> 00:42:32,401
Speaker 1: I was copying so much shit, Like they weren't discriminating me.

1024
00:42:32,441 --> 00:42:34,761
Speaker 1: They were happy because they knew I had a good backbone,

1025
00:42:34,921 --> 00:42:36,881
Speaker 1: so they would send me to all the jobs. And

1026
00:42:36,961 --> 00:42:38,881
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want to do this anymore.

1027
00:42:38,921 --> 00:42:40,361
Speaker 1: And then I went back to the corporate thing, and

1028
00:42:40,361 --> 00:42:41,801
Speaker 1: then they had the problem with the whole car thing

1029
00:42:41,841 --> 00:42:43,321
Speaker 1: and all the crap, and then I was like, yeah,

1030
00:42:43,361 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: I think I'm pretty much done. Here did the knee,

1031
00:42:45,481 --> 00:42:48,001
Speaker 1: and they went, I'm going to become self employed. So

1032
00:42:48,081 --> 00:42:50,921
Speaker 1: I did. From my bedroom started the model management business

1033
00:42:51,601 --> 00:42:53,401
Speaker 1: and I've had it for thirteen years. And then I've

1034
00:42:53,441 --> 00:42:55,601
Speaker 1: run the other business, which is I'm a psidekick full time.

1035
00:42:55,881 --> 00:42:58,041
Speaker 1: So they I'll deal with people on the other side

1036
00:42:58,081 --> 00:43:00,161
Speaker 1: that have lost loved ones and or they want to

1037
00:43:00,161 --> 00:43:01,601
Speaker 1: know who ratted the mount who put him in lock

1038
00:43:01,681 --> 00:43:03,801
Speaker 1: up and I'm like, oh God, I don't want to

1039
00:43:03,841 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: go down that path.

1040
00:43:04,521 --> 00:43:06,401
Speaker 2: But you got any regrets.

1041
00:43:07,081 --> 00:43:13,201
Speaker 1: I've got plenty of regrets. The kebab was one. Yeah,

1042
00:43:13,201 --> 00:43:14,481
Speaker 1: of course, I've got a lot of regrets. I never

1043
00:43:14,521 --> 00:43:17,761
Speaker 1: backed myself. I never believed in myself, and I listened

1044
00:43:17,761 --> 00:43:19,601
Speaker 1: too much to what everyone else thought of me. I

1045
00:43:19,721 --> 00:43:23,041
Speaker 1: always wanted the approval of everybody else because I was

1046
00:43:23,081 --> 00:43:26,161
Speaker 1: always told I wasn't good enough or I wasn't what

1047
00:43:26,241 --> 00:43:28,361
Speaker 1: they expected of me, and it did my head in.

1048
00:43:28,681 --> 00:43:31,001
Speaker 1: It was like two sides, me going Okay, that was

1049
00:43:31,001 --> 00:43:32,481
Speaker 1: a positive because it pushed me to get to me

1050
00:43:32,521 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: to where I want to be, but then it also

1051
00:43:34,721 --> 00:43:38,881
Speaker 1: mentally destroyed me and I went, what four? Who are

1052
00:43:38,921 --> 00:43:40,641
Speaker 1: these people to me? They're no one. They're going home

1053
00:43:40,681 --> 00:43:42,361
Speaker 1: to bed at night, they're not giving a shit, and

1054
00:43:42,401 --> 00:43:44,161
Speaker 1: there's me carrying the guilt or the weight of what

1055
00:43:44,201 --> 00:43:46,881
Speaker 1: they said and I wasn't letting it go. So yeah,

1056
00:43:46,881 --> 00:43:49,801
Speaker 1: that's another regret. And then the other regrets is giving

1057
00:43:49,841 --> 00:43:52,841
Speaker 1: too many people too many chances because I've been pisceed

1058
00:43:52,881 --> 00:43:54,361
Speaker 1: on and shit it on so many times by people.

1059
00:43:54,401 --> 00:43:57,801
Speaker 1: It's hard. It's you want to give people the benefit

1060
00:43:57,801 --> 00:43:59,641
Speaker 1: of the doubt. But there are so many people that

1061
00:43:59,721 --> 00:44:02,441
Speaker 1: do messed up shit in this world, and the blink

1062
00:44:02,441 --> 00:44:04,041
Speaker 1: of an eye, the person that could be your best

1063
00:44:04,081 --> 00:44:07,561
Speaker 1: friend could turn to your worst enemy in a heartbeat. Horrible.

1064
00:44:08,641 --> 00:44:11,881
Speaker 1: I'll smile after I say that. Describe yourself in one word,

1065
00:44:12,161 --> 00:44:20,641
Speaker 1: oh god, ambitious. Yeah, we can't say family oriented. It's

1066
00:44:20,641 --> 00:44:21,121
Speaker 1: two words.

1067
00:44:22,361 --> 00:44:24,161
Speaker 2: So what's the future hole for you?

1068
00:44:25,841 --> 00:44:30,281
Speaker 1: There's more to come, documentary. H I'm got to pick

1069
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Speaker 1: that back up. I've got to win another title. I

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Speaker 1: want to win a world title. I came so close.

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Speaker 1: I got runner up during lockdown in Vegas. I got

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Speaker 1: runner up in the world. I'm hungry for it. I

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Speaker 1: want that win. I'm going to be the first Lebanese

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Speaker 1: girl to take it out. I want that win so bad.

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Speaker 1: I want that so another win on stage, not more

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Speaker 1: all the one win. I want a world title, another

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Speaker 1: win on stage. Secretly underworld podcast, I'm doing a movie

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Speaker 1: next Jeff Fennick. I'm based on Jeff the movie. I'm

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Speaker 1: really excited about that. So I'm the ring girl. You

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Speaker 1: have to honestly, you know what's funny. I would be

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Speaker 1: very quick on that very simple twist of fade on

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Speaker 1: that I was dating someone and I was twenty years

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Speaker 1: old at the time. I just started my all my

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Speaker 1: comps and whatnot. And I was in Brighton, Losans. He

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Speaker 1: took me to dinner and I saw Jeff outside. I

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Speaker 1: didn't know Jeff, and I saw him with his wife, Susie,

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Speaker 1: which is a fabulous name, by the way. And then

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Speaker 1: and then I was like, oh my god, that's Jeff Fannick.

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Speaker 1: I was feeding girling, right, so I'd followed his career

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Speaker 1: from when I was a kid, right, I still watch

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Speaker 1: all these clips till this day. And are you at Jeff?

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Speaker 1: And he turned and I said, I waved, Hi, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: and he went back and oh my god, he waved

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Speaker 1: to me. And I was like, I was only twenty yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then, because I said to the girl, I was saying,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, that's Jeff. I want to say hello.

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Speaker 1: He won't give a shit who you are. He doesn't care.

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Speaker 1: You're wasting your time. I said, I didn't give a shit.

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Speaker 1: What you tell me. I said, I love Jeff Fennick,

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Speaker 1: and I just waved. And then twenty years later, I'm

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Speaker 1: now doing his movie. When I met Jeff five years

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Speaker 1: after that at a fight night I told him the

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Speaker 1: story and he's spun out and I just adore him.

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Speaker 1: He's pinnacle of boxing and Nata of course he's like

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Speaker 1: family to me. Nat is the best. But yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: a little simple twist of fate. I want to tea

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Speaker 1: you like. So we're doing the Phoenic movie and that's

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Speaker 1: going to be in Sydney as well. Might ask him

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Speaker 1: they might need some bounces or something.

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Speaker 2: You're a big unit.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so we got that coming up. I want

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Speaker 1: to finish my documentary and I'm going to smack. After

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Speaker 1: what happened with my foot and competing, I want to

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Speaker 1: go back and win a couple more coms. I'm hungry,

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. Once he's heels, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: smash it out. I just it's good for the head.

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Speaker 1: Noise it is, trust me, Trust me. You think you're laughing,

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Speaker 1: you think I'm crazy. It actually helps me and it

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Speaker 1: keeps me calm and it gives me something to look

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Speaker 1: forward to. Everyone's got there something, you know, what's your something?

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Speaker 1: This I'm the host, but surely you've got something that

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Speaker 1: makes you go.

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Speaker 3: My goal, My goal is for this, the five year,

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Speaker 3: five year goal, and my five year. Goal was to

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Speaker 3: make this as big as Joe Rogan.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it will take five, it will take two,

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Speaker 1: two years, I give it. I reckon it'll be two years.

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Speaker 1: You heard it here. First prediction. I think you'll smash

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Speaker 1: it out. You're doing well as it is now, and

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Speaker 1: I think that well from more I've watched, and I

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Speaker 1: watch a lot of the clips, I think you've got

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Speaker 1: what it takes to take it to another level. I'm

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Speaker 1: really excited to see where it guys. Thank you, You're

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Speaker 1: very welcome than you see positivity, but thank you for

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Speaker 1: coming on. You're very welcome.

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Speaker 3: You know when you when you reached out to me,

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Speaker 3: I wanted to share your story and I'm glad I

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Speaker 3: did now and now thank you for coming on.

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Speaker 1: Happen it sounds too crazy, You're crazy. I haven't had

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Speaker 1: a kebab since