1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to our three sixty rugby league from every angle, 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: joining me again, the great Gordon Tallace. That's bring the 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: j in, poor crawl in Andrew Webster and trainer Gate continues. 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: The controversy rolls on. Well, we already know what Gordy 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: thought of it. 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 2: What was your take thought? 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 3: It was a disgrace as soon as it happened. Andrew 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 3: Voss has gone off his tree about it. He nailed 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 3: it in the moment. It was disheartening. The Titans had 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 3: put in a wonderful performance and you could just see 11 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 3: it slip away in front of him. It's unacceptable. If 12 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 3: he didn't do it intentionally, it was stupidity of the 13 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 3: highest order. Anyone that runs the water from under rates 14 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 3: up knows that you can't run in front of the kit. 15 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 4: I agree. 16 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 5: I don't know why we've got to put the word 17 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 5: gates at the end of every scandal that happens in 18 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 5: regularly these days, but we seem to Yeah, you know, 19 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 5: I think the fact that it's happened with Pendeth train 20 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 5: it so many times in what six times since twenty 21 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 5: and twenty one. The other thing I can't really cop 22 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 5: is the line that he didn't know, you know who's 23 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 5: lining up a goal? 24 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 6: Well, why was he seeing the What. 25 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 3: Did he think? 26 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 5: The bloke's a huddled at the in the end goal, 27 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 5: just like having a mother's club meeting. 28 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 3: There's not a person on the field. I'm really sitting 29 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 3: here last night talking about all the confusion that was 30 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 3: out there. There's not a person on the field but 31 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: the goalkicker. 32 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: Well, the reason it reved up overnight was well, a 33 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: lot of it had to do with this Bulldogs gm 34 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: off footy field. Gold has blasted the punishment handed. Now 35 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: let's have a look at what he had to say. 36 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: I think it's the greatest beat up I've ever seen 37 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: in rugby league. This is a perfect example that official 38 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: them can be influenced by social media. If he's not 39 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: putting water on the ball, he's not doing his job. 40 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 6: He's not cheating, he's not doing his job. Basically. 41 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 5: You know, that's a that's a familiar Gus line. He 42 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 5: likes to say that the NRL always reacts to what 43 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 5: the media and social media you're doing. 44 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,279 Speaker 6: I don't buy that at all in this instance. 45 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 5: You know, as you said the commentators, I was watching 46 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 5: it live too, thinking what the hell is this? 47 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 7: Guy doing players had to say and then the Titans 48 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 7: wouldn't like and. 49 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 3: He's brought it up straight away in the commentary. 50 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 7: Michael Nis, and Andrew VISs, and Jaden Campbell's reaction. 51 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 4: Is the best. 52 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 6: It didn't cost them the game, but certainly no, no, no, 53 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 6: I get that. 54 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 5: But a lot of people make that argument. And it 55 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 5: didn't cost them the game, but it certainly didn't help. 56 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 3: But it's a fair argument though, because that makes it 57 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 3: a full point lead, and then when even gets a 58 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 3: Kiell goal, it doesn't matter. The Titans are still ahead 59 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: of they. 60 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 4: Try to win. Well, maybe they ain't go for that, mate. 61 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 3: But that's in golden point. 62 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 4: Yeah. 63 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: Like the argument that it did cost him, well, it's 64 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 3: a legitimate argument. 65 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: I respectus so much, but sometimes his comments just they 66 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: spin me out. 67 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: I just don't get it. 68 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: Like Andrew VISs, he's been calling regul league games now. 69 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: For since the nineteen eighties forever. 70 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 1: And his reaction to it at the time, he'd never 71 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: seen it, and you know, we all know advice. He's like, 72 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: he's a great call, arguably the best in here. 73 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: He was shocked. Michae Lennis. He was right next to him. 74 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: He was shocked, they couldn't believe what was happening to 75 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: play on the social media because. 76 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 8: Fans' he said, along the lines that no one from 77 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 8: Rugby League had even cared about it at that time, 78 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 8: when in actual fact the moment had happened, there was 79 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 8: instant outright. 80 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: Well, I wonder if he would have cared about it 81 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: if it was the Bulldogs missing out on a final 82 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: spot because of it, you know, like the hypocrisy of 83 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: we said that, you know, and is it appropriate for 84 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: a club official to be saying that the trainers should 85 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: cheat like put water on the ball? 86 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 5: He said, far worse, he said, far worse on that show. Look, 87 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 5: you know, that's Gus. I think Gus likes a bit 88 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 5: of rage baby, likes to dangle out controversial lines and 89 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,119 Speaker 5: we all react to it, and I think Gus gets 90 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 5: off on that, to be honest. 91 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 6: But I find. 92 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 5: It's interesting in the sense that Penrith. I've been a 93 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 5: big supporter of Penrith. I don't like the suggestions. I 94 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 5: don't like the suggestion that their players are arrogant, but 95 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 5: there is certainly they do things. They push the envelope 96 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 5: like all the great teams do to get an advantage, 97 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 5: you know, and and they've got four woman. That's why 98 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 5: when they say, you know it was it was purely accidental. 99 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 5: That's why people go, you know, well, I've got my 100 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 5: suspicions whether. 101 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 6: That's the case. 102 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 3: You know what, there was a period in Ivan's early 103 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: years there where the parent Panthers did play with that 104 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: arrogance squaby. I don't think there's any doubt in the 105 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: world it was. There was that line in the sand 106 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: where they thought were sick of getting bullied, will be 107 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 3: the bullish. I think it's changed in the last two years. 108 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 3: I think there's been a clear change in their attitude, 109 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 3: but there hasn't been a change amongst their trainers. Like 110 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 3: you said, six incidents since twenty twenty one. 111 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 4: What about that we know about is the fine enough? 112 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 5: I think it's I think the punishment was actually I 113 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 5: think the punishment and the matches was fine. 114 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 3: Lad I'm glad they didn't go if it went heavier 115 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 3: against the trainer, if he was gone for the entire 116 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 3: season forever, it wouldn't bothered me. 117 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 7: I didn't like when the trainers used to run on 118 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 7: when I was playing, but I was lucky had Craig 119 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,799 Speaker 7: Bellamy had Gary Belcher then wrote at then had Kevy Wams. 120 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 4: I had some really good experience, Like I hated the. 121 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 7: Messages always come on now that I'm retired alphone, I 122 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 7: don't like seeing trainers on. 123 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 4: My little son plays Under sixers. They're on more than 124 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:09,679 Speaker 4: his coach. 125 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: No, but like. 126 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 7: There's no hil like there's no fatigue. A minute they 127 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,119 Speaker 7: run up with the water bottle. So are we watching 128 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 7: under rates or are we watching NRL? Can we just 129 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 7: get the trainers off like? 130 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: N RL CEO Andrew Abda has responded to Guild's comments, 131 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 1: dismissing the claim that the punishment was driven by social 132 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: media and fan backlash. 133 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: Take a listen. 134 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 9: I think it's important to note that there have been 135 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 9: six separate incidents incidences involving in Panthers. 136 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 4: Trainers since twenty twenty one. 137 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 9: So whilst we treat every incident on its own merits, 138 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 9: taking into the fact that there had been several discressions 139 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 9: by trainers from that card, but it was important for 140 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 9: us to take the action that we've taken. There's a 141 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 9: simple rule, and that rule has been broken, whether it 142 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 9: was by accident or night. 143 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 4: It's a bridge and they obviously have a an opportunity 144 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 4: to respond. 145 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 9: I can say categorically that this is not a reaction 146 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 9: to the public or to social media. This is an 147 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 9: application of the rules. Something on Woods we discussed and 148 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 9: debated quite vigorously real time over the weekend. 149 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: Penal confirming Panthers trainers have had six indiscretions since twenty 150 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: twenty one. 151 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: So they've got some form, don't they. 152 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 3: I do. 153 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 5: I think Andrew deserves to be congratulated. I think it's 154 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 5: a good strong leadership. 155 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 2: Yeah. 156 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 3: Well at six we know about bray to get to 157 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: the seven that isn't even counted as the seven. 158 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 2: What do you want to do? You want to go 159 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: through the seven? Yeah? 160 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, so this is this was reported by the 161 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 3: Citdney Morning Herald today. So in the minutes after old 162 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 3: mates run across in front of Jaden Campbell and done 163 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 3: that old mate in the minute, in the minutes after 164 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,799 Speaker 3: all this is this is Shane Elford out on the field, 165 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 3: the Panthers trainer. So the rule for the blue shirt, 166 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: as the Herald reported today, the rule for the blue 167 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 3: shirt is that they're allowed on any time there's a 168 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 3: stoppage in play and three times during the game to 169 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: deliver messages or in a half to deliver messages. This 170 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 3: is they've got to be off by tackle four, and 171 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 3: he stayed on for every tackle and stayed on for 172 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: tackle five as Nathan's lined up for the field goal 173 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 3: and he's finally got to the sideline right at the end, 174 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 3: and he hasn't stopped giving his messages the whole way. 175 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 3: And so this is minutes after this. You know what 176 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 3: this is? This is an up yours, a stuff you 177 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 3: to the NRL rules. They couldn't care less what the 178 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: rules are. 179 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 6: It's one of these to the NRL. 180 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: That's what it is. 181 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 3: Yes, what it is. We're be honestly god mate, well. 182 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: Said, because last time I got it wrong, I'm aware 183 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: of carry on. 184 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 3: I'm just saying that's what it is, like, it's an 185 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 3: up yours to the NRL rules. And so the NR 186 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 3: rules response to this is that it's up to the 187 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: ground manager to enforce this. But if the ground manager 188 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 3: misses it, bloody enforce it after. 189 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 4: Woods, But why are they on the field. Why is 190 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 4: he on the field. 191 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 3: He shouldn't have been at that moment, mate, But this 192 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 3: is the arrogance of their trainers at the. 193 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 7: Moment they're going to run on unless we change the 194 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 7: rules and say you're not allowed on unless someone's injured. 195 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 5: Of course, don't you reckon, don't you reckon that? You 196 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 5: could you can identify moments like that numerous times in 197 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 5: the game. 198 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: You probably could, probably but the fact that they're out 199 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: of control sure that italy does happen in other games. 200 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: It probably does. You can see he shouldn't. 201 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: You're right, and you can see Shane is trying to 202 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: set them up for this field guy watching point back 203 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: to the forty medal line here just now, he's trying 204 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: to get a position and there right there, so he's 205 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: trying to get Nathan Cleary doesn't need Shane Elfords. He 206 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: doesn't need it. He doesn't need it, so it's unnecessary. 207 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: I think they're just overplaying it too much. But it's 208 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: not so much the Panthers fall, I believe. I think 209 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: it's more the NRLs, like you know, even their reaction 210 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: today to it. You know, it's obviously happening in other games. 211 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: So we've got to be careful of how critical we 212 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: are of pendis right here, but to do it of 213 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:00,599 Speaker 1: them will do it? 214 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, But yeah, but the trainer going in front of it. 215 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 5: You don't see that every game that's next level, But what. 216 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 4: Was better at it? 217 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 7: It's like when everybody was winging about the wrestling, Melbourne 218 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 7: were just better at it. 219 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 2: Do you think we'll say a crackdown now because of this? 220 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 4: I hope it won't have to. 221 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be a crackdown, like honestly it 222 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 3: should be. And I'm so glad that the NRL has 223 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: gone as hard as they did on bocking because at 224 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 3: least at least that's going to tell them if they 225 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 3: keep it up, they'll cop it again. 226 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 7: But I just said last night and I'll say it 227 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 7: again if they win the Grand Final, the fifty thousands nothing, No, no. 228 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: It's not your point. Your point was valid. You do 229 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 3: anything to win a game at this time of the 230 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 3: season if it's going to get you potentially into it. 231 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 2: It wasn't the Titans, it'd be even. 232 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: Biggest story, like if it was one of the top four, 233 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: top eight teams. Like people are saying, we're like us, 234 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: we're over exaggerating with dramatizing it. We're actually just giving 235 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: credit at the TI because they're hard done by and 236 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: it's got to change, you know, Like because if it 237 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: was one of those top eight teams, the uproar would 238 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: be even bigger. 239 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 2: Right or are I wrong with that? 240 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 3: Potentially with dres too, Like there's jobs on the line 241 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 3: at the moment, you know, and he just has to 242 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 3: cop it. Not only that, then they got the penalty trip. 243 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: Let's let's see from the Titans. 244 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: After heartbreaking lost Titans, Sam Verel's was still frustrated by 245 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: the training gain incident. 246 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't know what side of trainer just runs 247 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 10: in front of the person who's trying to kick the goal. 248 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 10: I don't I've ever seen that, to be honest. And 249 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 10: we're up by two as I think four or five 250 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 10: minutes ago. I don't know why train will just run 251 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 10: in front of him, to be honest. But he's come 252 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 10: out and said he didn't mean it, but it looks 253 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 10: pretty obvious. No, I know for a fact, our trainers 254 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 10: wouldn't run in front of a goal kicker ten meters out. 255 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: So see, if the players didn't care, right, and if 256 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't a big deal, the players aren't going to 257 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: react like that days after a result. 258 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: You know, we all know that, right, you said? 259 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 5: You could see from Jayden Campbell's reaction how much it hurt. 260 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 5: You're right, and like they you know, they might be, 261 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 5: you know, near the bottom of the ladder of the Titans, 262 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 5: but they've got DES's coaching for his future. 263 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: Well, it doesn't like he's trying to avoid exactly. 264 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 5: He's enough and he's played those players would have gone 265 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 5: through the ringer all year. It's like it's unfair to 266 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 5: a team in their position, doesn't matter what position on 267 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 5: the lad you are. 268 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the ins and outs around 269 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: twenty three thanks to sports Bet and Payne Hass returns. 270 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: Willison sidelined, Yo Is out with the shot of injury 271 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: for the Panthers, Hoppawardi at Treboievitch back to fullback for 272 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: the Manly Seagles. Galvin named Sexton and Woods are in 273 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: the reserves though that's an interesting one. Latroll Mitchell named 274 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: on the extended bench. But Payne Hass is a big 275 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: return for the Blockbuster against the Melbourne Storm. 276 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 7: Especially Willison going down with broken arm. So to have 277 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 7: payn Hass back, hopefully hopefully he's back and can fire 278 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 7: into the finals, that's a huge inclusion. 279 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is a massive game for the broadcast, 280 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: like their their record overall against the Storm has been horrendous, 281 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: but particularly in Melbourne where they haven't won I think 282 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 3: since twenty sixteen. And so when you peel back on that, 283 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 3: when Michael maguire came to the club this year, he 284 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 3: was supposed to introduce this you know, steely edge about 285 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 3: the Broncos, take them to the next level, do put 286 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 3: a toughness into them that Kevy couldn't supposedly do well. 287 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 3: This is the match that the Broncos have to stand 288 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 3: up and show it because as at this stage, I'd 289 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 3: say we haven't seen any difference apart from there a 290 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 3: little bit higher on the ladder to where they were 291 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: last year of what matches made them. But if they're 292 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 3: going to be a true Premiership contender, they have to 293 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 3: go down there and get rid of the Hohodo. 294 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 5: One hundred percent agree. I think this is their most 295 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 5: important game this year. One minute you think the Broncos 296 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 5: can win the COMP and the next minute you think 297 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 5: it's going to struggle to make the AID. 298 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 299 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 5: I haven't been convinced about them, you know, pushing for 300 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 5: the Comp. But if they put on a good performance 301 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 5: down there. Sterry Grands hundredth against the Storm, you know, 302 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 5: and it's also important for Melbourne because I reckon they've 303 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 5: been streaky as well. 304 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 7: You reckon Melbourne, they've been that inconsistent. They want to 305 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 7: put one of those performance where they put a shot 306 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 7: across their body's bow. 307 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 308 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: I was watching the game on the weekend and I've 309 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: been a big fan of Brisbane. I've talked them even 310 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: when they've been struggling, and I manage mcguy. I've supported 311 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: and you know, i've tipped the top four. Started that 312 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: changes the year went on, but they have been inconsistent. 313 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: Even in the game against sous it took them fifteen 314 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: minutes to kind of you know, score a long range 315 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: try when they had plenty of ball and then they're 316 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: run a leading by a tried half time and I'm 317 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: thinking they should be doing a hell of a lot. 318 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:31,599 Speaker 2: Better than what that. 319 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: Yes, they open see us up, they're always going to, 320 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 1: but because the US, we're decimated. So it's a big game, 321 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: and it's a big game for a number of reasons. 322 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: You've got a terrible record against the Storm. They've only 323 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: won once since twenty seventeen. 324 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 2: And here it is. 325 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: As you can see, there's a lot of l's so 326 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: the Broncos, like you guys just spoke about, it is. 327 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: An important game, but their record is diabolical. 328 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 3: Why is that? I don't know, I know what it is. 329 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 3: Melbourne is just too tough for them. Yeah, Melbourne, you 330 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 3: do you tell us, Gordy. Melbourne over the years have 331 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 3: just been too tough for the Broncos. Both Broncos played 332 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 3: pretty that Melbourne played a win. 333 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 7: Both sides have a lot of skill, Melbourne have more will. 334 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 7: It's as simple as that. Every time they go to 335 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 7: the contest and they beat Richmond to the contest, I've 336 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 7: had some really good sides and that performance as well, 337 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 7: but and that's. 338 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 3: The that's everywhere they've won once. 339 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: Have they flat track bullies the Broncos or can they 340 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: beat the top sides? 341 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 3: This is the moment up until now they have been 342 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 3: And it was interesting that you spoke about that game 343 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 3: the other night because like souths are basically missing a 344 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 3: football team. It's a new South Wales Cup team out there. 345 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 3: And the moment that kind of got under my skin 346 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 3: a little bit was when Ezra men and Reesa running 347 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 3: away for that try. And they've got that little bit 348 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 3: going on between them and they're having a good old 349 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 3: laugh and poor old Joe Rrohs chasing in the background, 350 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 3: and by the time he gets there, he jumps on 351 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 3: Ezra Man and he wants to kill him. There's a 352 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 3: blow up over it. There's a blow up. But their 353 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 3: cockiness borders on arrogance. Okay, okay, do that against a 354 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 3: second grade bunny side. Now go and do it against 355 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 3: the Storm. 356 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: That's the challenge, Like, I don't mind a bit of 357 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: cockiness and arrogance. And yeah, that's when they're playing. 358 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: That's the line, isn't it. 359 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 5: Do you tell me any partnership that is an arrogant Well, 360 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 5: do you think I took much? 361 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 3: See what the Storm wasn't in their day? The Storm now, 362 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 3: I didn't think so. Look there's arrogance amongst them. They 363 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 3: took his footy too serious. 364 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 4: He never spell. 365 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, well there was always and even the Storm today, 366 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 3: there's a degree. There's a degree of decency about I. 367 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 7: Reckon, I run on, and I was always serious. It's 368 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 7: time to relax, you know. Sometimes it's good when you 369 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 7: see guys. 370 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 5: Express Melbourne Melbourne ship on their shoulder, you know, because 371 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 5: of the wrestling stuff from the cap stack. Yeah, yeah, 372 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 5: I Reckon, so that win when they left at South 373 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 5: last week, that said to me, said more about Sous 374 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 5: than it did about the Broncos. 375 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 6: I just said that. 376 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 5: Its like I think Bennett said it in the press conference. 377 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 5: You know, they've just been hanging on for so long 378 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 5: and it just finally gave him the second. 379 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 4: Half the challenge break. They've got their injuries. 380 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: I still think the jury's out with them, you know 381 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: as well because although paramatter of a team on the 382 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: rise who played really well the other night, Melbourne with 383 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: clunky but had every right to be We know Jerome 384 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: Hughes Wei Shart playing in the Hearts, but Melbourne probably 385 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: identify they need to be better if they want to 386 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: win the competition. But that's okay. They've got a few 387 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: weeks to try and readjust without your own but against Brisbane, 388 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: who come are coming into this gaming confidence and a 389 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: little bit of arrogance, you never know, like smiling. They're 390 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: smiling that. 391 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 3: The Jerome thing is a big deal too, isn't it, 392 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 3: Because look, we all watched the game last week, wish Look, 393 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 3: he's as brave as they come. He tries his guts out, 394 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 3: but he is not at the level of Jerome Hughes. 395 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 3: They've gone for a again this week, Peasants on the bench. 396 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 4: It's like it'll be time. 397 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 7: I think Peasant will certainly get his start at number seven. 398 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 7: But this has always been the Melbourne way and they 399 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 7: can't go away from what's worked for them. When Cooper 400 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 7: Kronk was fourteen, or you know we saw Nico Hines 401 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 7: was fording or Papenhouse was system. Isn't there there there's 402 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 7: a system, don't break it because it's not. 403 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 5: I think the Melbourne's problem is less complicated. They're just 404 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 5: are very un Melbourne. Like they just kept dropping the ball, 405 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 5: you know, loose partss on their own line, knock on, 406 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 5: you know, from from kicks they just don't. 407 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 6: It's just an. 408 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 3: Example of that, like with his goal kicking, with his 409 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 3: general play a lot of perhaps. 410 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: It is either brien or he's got some hells in it. 411 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: If you can put reel that back in. They need 412 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: that Melbourne because that's not the way that they play. 413 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: Now back to Brisbane, Rhye Walsh, Jesus he's been. He 414 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: showed us glimpses of brilliants and class, as he always does, 415 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: but a little bit inconsistent. 416 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: What do we expect from him on Thursday. 417 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 3: Well, look, you're right, because a week earlier was Rocks 418 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 3: and Diamonds against Paramatta. He was brilliant there and as 419 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 3: we've spoken about previously, since his return, he's transformed this team. 420 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 3: But I said it last week and I'll say it again. 421 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 3: I think it Reeese Walsh is at that time in 422 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,479 Speaker 3: his career. Is he twenty three now? I think he is. 423 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 3: That he's at that time where it's time to step 424 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 3: up and go to the next level. As we've spoken 425 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 3: about in the past, the great fullbacks, the Billy Slaters, 426 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 3: the Tedesco's, those sort of players reached that period where 427 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 3: they go to the next level. He's got to be 428 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 3: more than just a flash in the pan play. 429 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, fair point. 430 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 3: I like that. 431 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 5: Michael MacGuire said that he doesn't mind if he makes mistakes. 432 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:35,479 Speaker 6: He's not going to die wondering. 433 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 5: But that said, though, you still need to be a 434 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 5: little bit tempered in the way that you're playing football. 435 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: And Nelson Asafa Solomona, he's free to play this week, 436 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: but it hasn't been picked. Hearing that he will play 437 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: reserve grade, are you shocked at it? 438 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 7: We heard this last year that you know, he was overweight, 439 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 7: didn't quite get like we hear this about Nelson affair 440 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 7: bit and then all of a sudden, I don't think 441 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 7: they can win the comp without him. 442 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 3: I think you make a good point there, Gordy. That's 443 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 3: like he needs he's just to kick up the bum 444 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 3: to try and get him where he needs to go. 445 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 3: Like you know, there's a bit of talk going around 446 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 3: that Melbourne might be offering him. He might not come 447 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 3: back into the team or they don't win the comp 448 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 3: without him. You can saw him in the Grand Final 449 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 3: last year without him. 450 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 5: You could see just how pissed Craig Bellamy was a 451 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago when he got with that elbow, 452 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 5: like the coach wasn't happy. 453 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: He's a culmination of things. That was kind of the 454 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: last straw for Craig. He hasn't got quite what he's 455 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: wandered out in Nelson now for a while and then 456 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: to almost cost them a game through one incident. It's like, mate, 457 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: if you get your shot here, you've got to deliver. 458 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: And it was unstorm like I think too, which crazy 459 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: just doesn't stand for that. 460 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 6: You've got a bad poker face, Billy. 461 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: You reckon. 462 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 3: Missing the gold. How many? 463 00:19:55,280 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 4: How many caves does he do? We're reported start with laughling. 464 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: Galvin, who had scans yesterday, has an injury to his 465 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: ankle but also his hand. 466 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 2: I'm not sure exactly who is but his hand. 467 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: They've named him at seven although I mean I'm here 468 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: and he won't play, there is a chance of him playing. 469 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 2: What do you got? 470 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 3: Should they play. 471 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 4: Him or not? 472 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 5: It depends on how bad it is, Like I saw 473 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 5: photos this afternoon of him like it's strapped up pretty heavily. 474 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 3: That if there's a most clubs say if there's a fracture, 475 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 3: it's a four to six week injury. It takes four 476 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 3: to six weeks to men. But we were speaking about 477 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 3: this out in the back earlier break and you have 478 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 3: played with a fractured hand, so you could talk. 479 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 1: Some breaks you need to have surgery and that's just 480 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: four to six weeks. Because you have surgery, you get 481 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: pins in and you're out, and some you don't need 482 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: the surgery, so then you've just got to wait for 483 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: it to heal. It's going to hang around for a 484 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: four to six week period. You can play with it, 485 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: get straight up, Yeah you can, but you know, I 486 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: probably wouldn't be rushing him back in if it's if 487 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: there's a fracture there, like I'd be giving him a 488 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: week or two off. And then because it's uncomfortable as 489 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: a half, you've got to couch past. 490 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 2: Tackling on the edges. You know, you not been able 491 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 2: to grab like you usually can. 492 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 1: So it does impact your game, and it does impact 493 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: it more as as a half. 494 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 2: Look as a front row back rower, you're not passing 495 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 2: as much, you're making more shoulder front front on tackles. 496 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 2: You get away with it a bit. 497 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 7: Have you written a column with a broken hand? Have 498 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 7: actually broken that hand before? 499 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 6: You don't want to know. 500 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 2: Something for us? 501 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 3: Or who they kick sext and they will say they've 502 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 3: they've named Mitchell Wood and tab Sexton on an extended bench, 503 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 3: And that is the question, isn't it break because do 504 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 3: you really like they kidnas here? Are they really going 505 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 3: to gamble on an untried young guy as impressed as 506 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 3: it as Woods may be, Or do you go with 507 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 3: the blow who you know what you're going to get 508 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 3: with Sext and surely he. 509 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 7: Got him to the top of the table. You put 510 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 7: him in for the next couple of weeks. Lockie has 511 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 7: a couple of weeks off. 512 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: That's common sense, which Mitch Woods is a superstar in 513 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: the making. I've watched a lot of his games and 514 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: he's a first grader through and through. But there's no 515 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: need to rush, especially right now when he gets sext 516 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: and sitting there. You know, obviously Galvin there. When he's fit, 517 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: his time will come. He's time will come, and there's 518 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: no real advantage in throwing him in right now. 519 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 5: I don't believe if they don't pick him then they 520 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 5: are well and truly off him. 521 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 6: Sex Absolutely, Yeah. 522 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 3: I guess you go back. It's just remind him. 523 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 2: Man. 524 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 3: You know more about this one too. Jonathan Thurston coming 525 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 3: into the Bulldog squad, But did he have more behind 526 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 3: him at that stage than Mitchell Now, back in two 527 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 3: thousands before he was. 528 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: A freak in the lower like I'm talking, dominating the 529 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: whole competition, setting up four or five drys again, and 530 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: was knocking on the door. 531 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 2: For a long time before that. You know, he was exceptional. 532 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 2: We saw, yeah in the end he did. 533 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 3: But but at that stage of his career, he. 534 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 2: Was was watching his game, singer, so he kept us on. 535 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 4: Watching a reserve video. 536 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was brilliant to you just left anyway, he 537 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: left and then you did kicked Sunny Bill and they resigned. 538 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: William both left to you later. 539 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 4: About scabs. 540 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: Tom Damoivich returns to fullback. 541 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: For me only now we've we've debated this for quite 542 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: a while now, and I think you guys said last time, 543 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: the last week that he should be moved back there, 544 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: and here it is excared me. 545 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 3: But Tom the week earlier, just as the conversation started, 546 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 3: that he should go back to full back, and then 547 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 3: he went down and he started holding that knee again. 548 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 3: But look, he was moved back there on the weekend 549 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 3: for good reason. And I think if mainly are to 550 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 3: be any hope of playing finals this year, Tom Dravoivitch 551 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 3: is in the one jersey. 552 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, like he's one of the best fullbacks 553 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 5: in the game when you're playing there's You're right, though, 554 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 5: I'm just I'm still a little bit concerned about his body. 555 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 5: I know he hates being raised, but I'm all worried 556 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 5: about it. Just how many are going to show up? 557 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 10: You know. 558 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 5: There's so much talk about the playing group and their 559 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 5: relationship with Anthony Seabold and the rest of the class 560 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 5: that still bubbling and is still definitely bubbling around. 561 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 4: They fix it, and well, the thing. 562 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 3: It's real, it is there is a genuine feeling at 563 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 3: the club. I don't think that it's that they're off seebs, 564 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 3: it's that his coaching style doesn't really a lot of 565 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 3: a few of them, like it's just not their. 566 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 6: Goal, to be honest, the same thing was there last year. 567 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, and then they went you know, I was as 568 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 5: stundards anyone when they went to the second week of 569 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 5: the finals knowing that there had been you know, you're right, 570 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 5: Disharmony isn't the word. 571 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 6: It's just it just doesn't seem to be fit he 572 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 6: is to deal. 573 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 3: With his coaching style. But then that becomes a pretty 574 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 3: damn big issue, doesn't it. Like if there is known 575 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,959 Speaker 3: to be and it's a reality that there's senior players 576 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 3: within that group, prominent senior players within that group that 577 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 3: aren't exactly enjoying that style of coaching, surely that becomes 578 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 3: a problem for manly management. 579 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: And is that a reason why there's a delay on 580 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: the Tagorievitch deal. Both of them, Jake and tom. 581 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 3: My understanding with the Travoyevich is is that it's it's 582 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 3: kind of like Jake is at that time in his 583 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 3: life where he's thinking, do I want to go beyond 584 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 3: the end of next year. I don't think there's any 585 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 3: question he wants to stay at mainly. And then I 586 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,239 Speaker 3: think with Tom it's it's probably a similar situation at 587 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 3: the moment, but there has to be this underlying feeling 588 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 3: who's going to be the coach? 589 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 2: Know anything about that? 590 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 5: No, it's there, hard There are hard read manly in 591 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 5: terms of just where. But you know, Tony Mesrov is 592 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 5: a big supporter of Anthony Seabold's on the record about it, 593 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 5: and they've had so much upheaval this year. 594 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 7: But you've got to be on the board of the team. 595 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 7: You've got to be on the board of the badge. 596 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 7: That's the right decision. 597 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 5: No, I get it, But you know I've said on 598 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 5: this program before, there's certainly and there's no secret this 599 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 5: old you know, the old click of manly former players 600 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 5: who certainly want some change there, both in the front 601 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 5: office in the coaching department, and that pressure is still there. 602 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 3: So the names that get mentioned from the manly old 603 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 3: boys is Matt Ballen, isn't it. And then there's there's 604 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 3: a bit of mail guard around about Willie Peters at 605 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 3: the moment. There's a lot of talk about how good 606 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 3: a job that he's done over at Hull, and his 607 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 3: name gets linked to Manly. 608 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 6: Which is hilarious given the way that he left the club. 609 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 3: Yes, well that's another story. And then the other guy 610 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 3: again that started out at Manley was Arthur But it 611 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 3: would depend on which direction they've got to go. But 612 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 3: by the sounds of things, yeah, so you wouldn't think 613 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 3: seems is that safe. But isn't the right decision because 614 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 3: the other thing that's getting mentioned is maybe his last 615 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 3: another year and they bring someone in, Like if the 616 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 3: players aren't really see an eye to eye with him, 617 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 3: do you leave it another year? Do you go through 618 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 3: it for another twelve months? 619 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 4: You have to move? 620 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 2: You believe that they have to retain Jake? 621 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? 622 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 2: I do. 623 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 4: I do. 624 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 625 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 5: You forget about all the super coach I do as well, 626 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 5: all the super coach stats, because it's just just the 627 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 5: ethos that he brings to the club, you know, Like 628 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 5: look at Origin last year, everyone was bagging the decision 629 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 5: from Mikam guy to make him captain and even pick him, 630 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 5: and he was like the backbone of that team, and 631 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 5: it doesn't always just come Look at him there kicking 632 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 5: those that's what you want from it. 633 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 3: That's what you want from your captain. 634 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, look, someone who cares. 635 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,959 Speaker 5: You know, it shouldn't be it should be the standard, 636 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 5: but that's what you want. 637 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 4: But sometimes it's bigger than what they do. 638 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 7: I think it's you know, from Monday to and break 639 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 7: like and you play with those guys because I come 640 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 7: through the grades where there was reserve grade and there 641 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 7: was guys that hung around. 642 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 4: They just taught you so much. 643 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 7: It was just so good when they played and they 644 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 7: were you know, on the other you know, just on 645 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 7: the other side of the hill, but they're still important 646 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 7: to the organization. 647 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 4: He's one of them. 648 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: Everyone loves Jake, and I think what you mean there 649 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: as well as trust, absolutely he provides you trust him 650 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: and you trust. 651 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 2: As long as he's in the team, everything's going to be. 652 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: Everyone's going to be inspired by him and doing the 653 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: right thing by the team, the team first mentality. Now DC, 654 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: we're hearing that when he goes to the roosters. 655 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: What you're laughing at? 656 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 4: What is he going to announce it? 657 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 5: When he rosslaying when the season over both. 658 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to be five eight and Sam Walker 659 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: is going to be seven. We've also wondered if this 660 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: was going to be the case, who would be the 661 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: general the seven and Buzz I think is the one 662 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: that reported this. 663 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 3: Well, Buzz has reported that that Sam will be wearing 664 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 3: the seven next year and he will be the half 665 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 3: back of the team. I guess the question I have though, 666 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 3: is that Sam's playing left side, which is traditionally where 667 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 3: the five eight plays. Cherry Evans has spent his career 668 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 3: playing on the right. They've got young Hugo Savallo who 669 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 3: is not so young really when you when you look 670 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 3: at he's real aged. He's twenty three, right, so it's 671 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 3: not like he's some young rookie who's prepared to wait 672 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 3: another year to get his shot so they can bring 673 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,239 Speaker 3: in a thirty seven year old and if he was 674 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 3: to do that in twelve months time. There's a young 675 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 3: bloke called Tapey Rodwell who they have massive wraps on, 676 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 3: who is a half back, not a five eight, which 677 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 3: makes me wonder is Sam's long term position for the 678 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 3: Roosters as a five eight not a half pack? You 679 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 3: tell me? 680 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: Is it? 681 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: We spoke like I think Sam's got a lot of 682 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: development before he entirely runs a team, you know, with 683 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: that composure in game management, he's he's so good like 684 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: off the cuff and we try assists up there amongst 685 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: the best of them, and he can do things that 686 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: others can't. But the question mark is that control, you know, 687 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: And that's why I thought they'll bring in DC in. 688 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: But then they're put in DC at six, so you know, 689 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: how is he going to control it from six? 690 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: And control get. 691 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 3: Him jump at forty two. 692 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 2: I don't think it's big deal. 693 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: Like I think that they'll share roles and one or 694 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: compliment compliment the others that I see him as different, 695 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: a lot of them as the same player. 696 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 2: I don't. 697 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: I see them as different. I think I think for 698 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: a year it'll be a good combination. I actually don't mind. 699 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: A lot of people are quite pessimistic about it. 700 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 3: If you were Hugo, would you wait another year waiting 701 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 3: in the wings that rod Well's in the background. 702 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 2: If it's only one year, it's not. 703 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 3: Because rod Wall is then twelve months older. 704 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: But he's got the jump on him at the moment, 705 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: because he's showed that he can handle first grade and 706 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: he's done it really well, so he has first DIBs, 707 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: you know, walk robertson to prove himself. He doesn't matter 708 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: how good you are Australian schoolboy. You know, we've seen 709 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: it before. I think, listen, he's got it wrong. Well, 710 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's an interesting one. Santa Smith will move on. 711 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: His stocks are high on now. Then if he gets 712 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: dropped and a young kid goes past him. 713 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 2: And anywhere else too, so he could see the year 714 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 2: out and have options. 715 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 3: You know, he's free, he's free to talk to rival 716 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 3: clubs come November this year, so it'd be interesting to 717 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 3: see goes to Mark. 718 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 5: I just wonder what happens, what's happened because when this 719 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 5: first got floated about Cherry Evans to the Roosters at 720 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,719 Speaker 5: the start of the year, I'm having this discussion with 721 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 5: Roosters types earlier in the years, No I can't, and 722 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 5: the whole the line out of the club was Cherry 723 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 5: Evans would play seven and Walker would move to six. 724 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 5: And I know he just said that's just a number 725 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 5: in a lot of ways, but that's what I got 726 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 5: told from some pretty heavy hitters at the talks. So 727 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 5: I was surprise when Buzz rode it that there would 728 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 5: be the other way around. 729 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 2: You got to keep everyone happy. In a case of that, 730 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 2: you reckon that. 731 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 5: Make the same decision now, Yes, yeah, I think once 732 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 5: Nick said he's coming, there's no way he was ever 733 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 5: going to backle out of it. 734 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 2: I don't think they can. 735 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: I don't think they believe they can win a camp 736 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: next year with the team they got. 737 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: They think that DC. I'm just my opinion. 738 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: I think they think with DC there are more chance 739 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: of winning premiership. 740 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 3: I reckon that funny thing though, because we look at 741 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 3: the competition this year and we've spoken about the Storm 742 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 3: being a bit streaky, the Bronco has been a bit streaky. 743 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 3: The Raiders in the last month probably not as impressive 744 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 3: as they were previously. Canterbury it is to say the 745 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 3: Roosters can't make a charge this year. 746 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: It's a fair point that you make stick around. 747 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: Plenty more to come and tomorrow night following and at 748 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: all three sixty the journey behind Camber Raiders Fly Xavier 749 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: Savage A moving story coming to your screens this Indigenous round.