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Speaker 1: What is going good?

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Speaker 1: Box is going really good. I only started boxing again

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Speaker 1: a lot of time off. Thirty one probably wasn't the

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Speaker 1: But since then, I've lost like fucking twelve kilos. Mentally

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Speaker 1: And He's like, I fucking got you, man, And yeah,

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Speaker 3: What's your what's your goal for like for for for

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Speaker 2: because the way It's funny how you can persone someone

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Speaker 1: them learn lessons they need to learn, but I'm not physical,

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Speaker 1: Like I remember what my dad catch. We know, I

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Speaker 1: once I read that not a car is not anything else,

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Speaker 1: and so he was like stop doing that. I was like, yeah, right, anyway,

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Speaker 1: I remember, he just the kettle called the jug called.

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Speaker 1: He just wrapped that around me a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: It's a point where they where they bled and Mum

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Speaker 1: See back back then, there's no there's no police involved.

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Speaker 1: It was just like that your kid, that's how yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: yeah he did that. Now you're fucking yeah. But even then,

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Speaker 1: not like he hit me. It's like there's fucking like

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Speaker 1: was going on? She get upsets and she'd like especially

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Speaker 1: As I got older, Dad used to do this psychological

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Speaker 1: thing where he'd make me put on boxing gloves and

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Speaker 1: we go at the back and he beat me and

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Speaker 1: you just like stare me out and from fucking fifteen,

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Speaker 1: man cut it down. But I think the last time

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Speaker 1: he tried to do it, I fucking I fucking dropped him.

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Speaker 1: He chopped him with her left hook, and that was

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