WEBVTT - #167 UFC Champion Dricus Du Plessis on war with Sean Strickland, Alex Pereira & who is the GOAT?

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<v Speaker 1>Hi'm my Boris and this is straight talk.

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<v Speaker 2>You can be my friend, you can be the biggest asshole.

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<v Speaker 2>I will still kill you on there. It's the job

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<v Speaker 2>to be done.

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<v Speaker 1>Freggus album to straight talk, make Mark thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's not go and act as a Sean Strickland. Fights

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<v Speaker 2>are entertaining. I'm there to give the people a show,

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<v Speaker 2>a fight, and I'm in there to kill someone. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not in there to point my way to victory.

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<v Speaker 1>You just said you're going there to kill somebody. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that that's a mindset. How do you become that person?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fighting a guy in front of millions of people

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<v Speaker 2>that wants to kill me, and I want to kill him.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all the motivation you need. I'm pretty hyped up

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<v Speaker 2>when I get out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Pereira, what would you ask him?

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<v Speaker 2>How's it going to feel to be in Sean Strickland's

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<v Speaker 2>corner losing again?

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<v Speaker 1>Ask him that, what's the next thing for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Now? Becoming world champion as a big, big step, but

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<v Speaker 2>this is not the end. My final step is being

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest to ever do the sports. Along the way,

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<v Speaker 2>being double champed is one of the steps to choose that.

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<v Speaker 1>Joregus want them to straight talk. Mate, thanks for having

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<v Speaker 1>me more importantly to Sydney.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you're here for this astral Day long weekend

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<v Speaker 1>which has just passed. How was that mate? What was

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<v Speaker 1>it like? I mean you obviously didn't go out and

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<v Speaker 1>get on it because so ready was it was?

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<v Speaker 2>It sucked to be honest, because I could just see

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<v Speaker 2>it's like a public holiday and you can see people

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<v Speaker 2>are just having the best time and I just say no, tell.

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<v Speaker 2>I went out and we went we got something to

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<v Speaker 2>eat and I could just see everybody having the best times.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, after the fight, I'll have my Australia Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm off mine. About fighters, I mean, do you

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<v Speaker 1>go through like say twelve weeks prep fight then, so

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't have to fight now for where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna fight again in June, so I'm gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>month off. Do you have a month off? Something happened?

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<v Speaker 2>So sometimes you are forced to take off because of injury. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is good, you know you get these guys.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of guys do that. So they'll fight I

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<v Speaker 2>have come, they'll take off for a month and sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>even longer. I can't do that like taking off for

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<v Speaker 2>a month, I will forget how to do what I

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<v Speaker 2>do and what am I going to do for that

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<v Speaker 2>whole month. So it's less intense. I'll take off. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>ever long I need. Sometimes mostly I'll fight this Saturday, Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>Next day I'll be at least go for a run.

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<v Speaker 2>If the next day, the next day, I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if you if you're not injured, because you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you do this your whole life. I've been fighting professional

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<v Speaker 2>now since I was nineteen years on the only job

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever had, So what else am I going to do?

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<v Speaker 2>It's what I know. It makes me feel good to

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<v Speaker 2>train so and especially after a fight, you immediately start

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about what you could have done better and the

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<v Speaker 2>things you can improve on, and then you want to

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<v Speaker 2>start working. But it's very important to take that break.

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<v Speaker 2>Earlier in my career, I couldn't. I couldn't do it

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<v Speaker 2>and couldn't switch off, and that that adds up. It

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<v Speaker 2>gets to you, and then then it's not the pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>You started losing the fun. If I can say.

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<v Speaker 1>It, yeah, and you've got to love it too.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to love it. And now I absolutely love

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<v Speaker 2>it and did you get that obsessed, you start and

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<v Speaker 2>you just want to go go. You start not appreciating

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<v Speaker 2>the winds as much, and I find that being more

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<v Speaker 2>devastating than anything, because then you're just thinking about what's next,

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<v Speaker 2>what's next, focus on what just happened. Take it in,

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<v Speaker 2>go on a week, two weeks, breakaway and come back

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<v Speaker 2>and start working again. Said what to do?

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<v Speaker 1>You got like family? Obviously got family, but are you married?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have a fiance? And I'm very close to

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<v Speaker 2>my mom, dad, and my brothers and their wives and kids.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's that's that's a breakaway for me, spending time

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<v Speaker 2>with them because in a fire camp, now there's that's

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<v Speaker 2>only it's a selfish sport. It's only me the fight ahead,

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<v Speaker 2>and everything takes a back seat. So that's the time

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<v Speaker 2>to really appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting you're say, and I'm glad you sort of

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<v Speaker 1>made that a mission. It is a selfage game. At

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<v Speaker 1>what point does someone like you say, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know if you thought it was, say it's time

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<v Speaker 1>me to settle down and maybe marry, have kids, have families,

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<v Speaker 1>because or would you happy to do that and have

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<v Speaker 1>kids the same time, like volk is your family of kids,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of daughters married, Any fights do you say

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<v Speaker 1>to yourself, now, I wait, I get my fight game over,

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<v Speaker 1>then I'll settle down. How does that work?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is a you get two minds on that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean in most guys, a lot of guys, especially

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<v Speaker 2>champions guys all in the career you have to start,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because I want to have a family or

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<v Speaker 2>wife and kids. But I'm thirty years old now, I

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<v Speaker 2>only got engaged very recently. And yeah, it's something you

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<v Speaker 2>have to think about because you know, I have so

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<v Speaker 2>much respect for a guy like Vulk, even a guy

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<v Speaker 2>like Rob doing what they're doing. And I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>can only imagine because it's not like they are just dads.

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<v Speaker 2>They are involved that you can see it. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I look at my dad. My dad gave me everything

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<v Speaker 2>like that was it was running a business. He was

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<v Speaker 2>looking after us very well. He didn't miss a single game,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't miss a single anything that I did, me or

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<v Speaker 2>my two older brothers. And you know where I am

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<v Speaker 2>right now, I can honestly say in terms of what

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<v Speaker 2>he gave me materialist, he never mattered. But to know

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<v Speaker 2>the support that I got and how much it meant

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<v Speaker 2>to me to see him at every game and how

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to play and be better for him. When

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<v Speaker 2>I played rugby, you know, he was there every single game.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually did dancing at a stage when I was younger.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't miss a dance. He didn't miss anything I

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<v Speaker 2>ever did, me or my brothers, And that means more

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<v Speaker 2>to me than anything ever. And to this day, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he would fly when he can. He would fly to

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<v Speaker 2>come and watch me fight. He went to every fight,

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<v Speaker 2>drove thousands of kilometers to take us to judo tournaments.

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<v Speaker 2>All that just out of the love. And that's more important.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you are going to do that, That's why

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<v Speaker 2>I so much respect for a guy like Robin Volk

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<v Speaker 2>to be involved while doing this full time. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have that in me right now where I'm and in

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<v Speaker 2>my career. Like I said, I got engaged, but I

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of things to do still. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I know if I'm going to be your father, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the best follow in the world. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>want to be the same as my dad.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that mean when you say you got lots to do,

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean perhaps go up into a second division?

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<v Speaker 1>Another division. I mean, what what do you have to do?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're already the champ in congratulations by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>you defended as well, and you know, you know, against

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<v Speaker 1>someone who's considered to be, you know, the greatest of

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<v Speaker 1>all time in your division. What's the next thing for

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<v Speaker 1>leg I mean, apart from defending your position?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, for me right now? You know, ever since

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<v Speaker 2>kind McGregor that it became almost a norm of being

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<v Speaker 2>a dominant champion going up defending your title or are

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<v Speaker 2>going up winning another title. What people have been struggling

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<v Speaker 2>with is defending and keeping both. So I would love

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<v Speaker 2>to be one to do that, winning both titles and

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<v Speaker 2>defending them. But when the time is right, I believe,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, at least three defenses before you even consider

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<v Speaker 2>going up a weight division. You really have to dominate

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<v Speaker 2>your division. You know, right now, I've beaten three of

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<v Speaker 2>the guys in the top five of my division, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think if you've gone through the whole the top

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<v Speaker 2>five that you've beaten still top five. That's where you

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<v Speaker 2>get to a situation where you go, well, what's next

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<v Speaker 2>or just keep on doing rematches. I'm already rematching one guy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's when I'll start thinking about that, but I definitely

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<v Speaker 2>want to. It's one hundred in my part of the journey.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the next step. Now, becoming world champion as a big,

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<v Speaker 2>big step, but this is not the end, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>My final step is being the greatest to ever do

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<v Speaker 2>this sport. And along the way being double champions is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the steps to achieve that dream.

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<v Speaker 1>As it worked, though Driguz does just dainn to come

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<v Speaker 1>up to you and say, hey, mate, let's maybe doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>say mate, but Hedrick, let's go and put you up

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<v Speaker 1>a division? Or do you do planning strategy planning in

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<v Speaker 1>that regard with someone like Don and White.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think that's not the way we go

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<v Speaker 2>about it or would go about it. It's about fighting

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<v Speaker 2>and making at the end of the day the suspectator sport,

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<v Speaker 2>so it has to make sense for the company. Whatever

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<v Speaker 2>makes the most money, whatsever going to it has to

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<v Speaker 2>make sense at the right time. Timing is everything in

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<v Speaker 2>the sport, and sometimes you miss opportunity, sometimes you gain

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<v Speaker 2>the opportunity. And with this it's purely going to be

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<v Speaker 2>there is once you go up, this is going to

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<v Speaker 2>make more money than any other fight in your division

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<v Speaker 2>and more sense, because you don't want to water down

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<v Speaker 2>a champion going to face another champion that needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be a very especially the guy in the lower weight

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<v Speaker 2>division needs to be so dominant that he really earns

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<v Speaker 2>his spot in fighting for another title. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's how it goes about, and the fans need to

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<v Speaker 2>be calling for it. People need to go, Okay, done

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<v Speaker 2>with this division. We need to see him one up.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see if you can, you know, get that comma

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<v Speaker 2>commas zero zero zero one percent achievements.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's when I when I look at you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a mad five fan. And in every sort of

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<v Speaker 1>discipline of fighting. What did you first start off in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of your disciplines? Like you know it was it grappling, judo,

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<v Speaker 1>jiu jitsu, boxing, Where did you get I.

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<v Speaker 2>Started with judo when I was five years old and

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<v Speaker 2>I did that for five to six years. My brothers

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<v Speaker 2>were both multiple national champions in judo.

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<v Speaker 1>This is your older brothers, Yeah, brothers. I'm the youngest,

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<v Speaker 1>the youngest in the family.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah okay, And my oldest brother became national champion twice,

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<v Speaker 2>my middle brother four times, and I did it four

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<v Speaker 2>five to six years and then we moved, We moved

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<v Speaker 2>to another province, and the judo there wasn't just not

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<v Speaker 2>at that level. And then I started wrestling for around two.

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<v Speaker 1>Years, wrestling as in actual wrestling, like amateur wrestling.

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<v Speaker 2>I was. I was ten eleven years old and I

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<v Speaker 2>did it for years. I wasn't too fond of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't because I was so used to the judo.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I wish I did it, but I started with wrestling.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an amazing sport. But I mean at that stage,

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<v Speaker 2>it was never for me to become a professional fight

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<v Speaker 2>or anything. It was an extra curricular activity.

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<v Speaker 1>For school.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we didn't have it in schools. It was just

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<v Speaker 2>my parents always encouraged us to do. We tried everything

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<v Speaker 2>to do as much as you possibly could. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I started with kickboxing at fourteen. K one kickboxing it

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<v Speaker 2>was and I love that, the full contact K one

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<v Speaker 2>kickboxing that was that was amazing. I had my first

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<v Speaker 2>fight late I was fourteen, maybe fifteen early, and I

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<v Speaker 2>loved it. And MMA was always the well that's the

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<v Speaker 2>videos I watched, but that was the sport that was available.

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<v Speaker 2>Became national champion in that and at eighteen, I became

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<v Speaker 2>Junior World champion in K one kickboxing as an amateur,

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<v Speaker 2>and at nineteen I made my professional debut in MMA.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's how my journey. I've been a lifelong student

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<v Speaker 2>of Marshal arts, and yeah, it's been amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Given that you know, obviously world champion, like, but it'd

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<v Speaker 1>be interesting to hear what your view is if say

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<v Speaker 1>somebody a parent is saying to their a parent of

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<v Speaker 1>a boy or a girl doesn't really matter, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying to your partner, Okay, let's get our son or

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<v Speaker 1>daughter to become very good at defending themselves and or

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps even attacking in terms of maybe being a competitor.

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<v Speaker 1>How would you rank the various disciplines wrestling, ju jitsu, boxing, kickboxing.

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<v Speaker 1>But what would you say if you only had to

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<v Speaker 1>pickture or three? Let's get them good at the competent

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<v Speaker 1>of these three things.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if I had a daughter, I would invest her

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<v Speaker 2>time and money in sprinting. So that's the best way

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<v Speaker 2>to do if yeah, just get away, because now a

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<v Speaker 2>girl fighting two men is never going to work, no

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<v Speaker 2>matter how good you are at it. It's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to work. It's not physically how it should work. So

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<v Speaker 2>I would get a maybe throw a strike, runaway. I

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<v Speaker 2>can see it out. But I'm talking about my brother's girl.

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<v Speaker 2>She loves it. The kickboxing, she loves it. She said,

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<v Speaker 2>an amazing dance, her world champion at that. And she's

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<v Speaker 2>only twelve years old. Eleven years old, and her mom

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<v Speaker 2>is like, no, like the dancing is what folks are,

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to get hurt. But she loves it. The grappling,

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<v Speaker 2>the wrestling, she wants to do all of it. And

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<v Speaker 2>his boy is wrestling, he's loving it. The kickboxing not

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<v Speaker 2>so fond of it, but he does it. And the

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<v Speaker 2>best discipline for if you're going self defense, I would

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<v Speaker 2>you know, jiu jitsu is just something that's always gonna

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<v Speaker 2>gonna help you. Wrestling is great, you know, you can

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<v Speaker 2>look at it at a striking situation, and in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of kickboxing and boxing that is going to be great

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<v Speaker 2>one on one. But if you are attacked judicious, just

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<v Speaker 2>the way to go. I think that's something that that

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<v Speaker 2>is every kid should do. I think it's amazing. But

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<v Speaker 2>more so, I think other than self defense now people

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<v Speaker 2>like to hide about around the self defense except for

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<v Speaker 2>unless and just not saying my kid loves to do this.

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<v Speaker 2>People feel our experience that people almost feel like you

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to say my kid likes fighting. People don't

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<v Speaker 2>want that image. Why not? It's an incredible sport. The

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<v Speaker 2>behavioral changes when I started taking the sports seriously at

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<v Speaker 2>the age of sixteen. You know, I really want to

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<v Speaker 2>become a world champion. I'm talking about academically in my

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<v Speaker 2>other sports. In my general life was insane. I went

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<v Speaker 2>from a C student to A plus students within a

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<v Speaker 2>six month period just because I found there. I found structure,

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<v Speaker 2>and I found something that I love to do and

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<v Speaker 2>something where what you put in directly results in what

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<v Speaker 2>you get out. And once you realize that, you go, well,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe if I put a bit more in this area

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<v Speaker 2>of my life, I'm going to get more out. And

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<v Speaker 2>that discipline to somebody telling you you are not going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk right now, you are going to do ten

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<v Speaker 2>push ups, even if you don't want you that is

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<v Speaker 2>something that that is the biggest, the biggest attribute of

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<v Speaker 2>doing a martial arts as for bullies and people are

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<v Speaker 2>being bullied because now the bully gets to a place

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<v Speaker 2>where you know, you use the bullying. Now you're getting

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that knows how to fight. It's not just

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<v Speaker 2>a bully. Now you're getting bullied and you feel, ah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what it feels like. Changes you if your

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<v Speaker 2>guide that's being bullied. And in many situations, I own

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<v Speaker 2>a gym back home, you see the bully and the

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<v Speaker 2>guy who's being bullied. Two months later, different children, no

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<v Speaker 2>manners all. The man is shy, high around his mom,

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<v Speaker 2>being friends, can't wait to be at the gym because

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<v Speaker 2>now he has a friend there who was His parents

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<v Speaker 2>came to us say, we need our kid to learn

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<v Speaker 2>discipline because he's a bully. Now you have a guy

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<v Speaker 2>who's being bullied and a guy who was the bully

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<v Speaker 2>best friends at that gym. That changes you forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not that I'm suggesting he's a bully, but your

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<v Speaker 1>your opponent, Seawan has actually put up on exit to

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<v Speaker 1>you or to everyone, I guess, but to you in

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<v Speaker 1>particular standard bang. Yeah, I mean, and that's his go

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's he's very good defensively, he's very good defense.

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<v Speaker 1>But what do you think about that? How do you

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<v Speaker 1>respond to that?

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<v Speaker 2>My response was clear, was there are backs between lions

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<v Speaker 2>and men. That was my direct response. But you know

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<v Speaker 2>that was exactly what we did the last time. He

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<v Speaker 2>said to death. Let's go, let's fight to death, and

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<v Speaker 2>the manthild jab and a cheap for five rounds in

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<v Speaker 2>that and this is statue. Can go check it for

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three minutes, I went forward, he went forward for

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<v Speaker 2>two minutes. That is a very clear indication of who's

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<v Speaker 2>there to fight and he's there to defend. He's not

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<v Speaker 2>banging moving, he's not banging, you know, he's and listen,

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<v Speaker 2>very effective style. That's his style. But let's not go

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<v Speaker 2>and act as if Stan Strickland fights are entertaining. The

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<v Speaker 2>man has eight split decision victories, well, eight split decisions

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<v Speaker 2>in six victories, two losses against me and Kennya. That

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<v Speaker 2>is not somebody that's looking for exciting fights. Split decision

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<v Speaker 2>means it's a very close it's a very close fight,

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<v Speaker 2>and that has to say something. I have two decisions

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<v Speaker 2>over my whole career. Split decisions is because he's not

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<v Speaker 2>doing anything to prove that he's winning that fight. But

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<v Speaker 2>he's not doing anything that make to make him lose

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<v Speaker 2>the fight.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's not he's fighting not to lose. He's

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<v Speaker 1>fighting not to lose as opposed to win.

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<v Speaker 2>He's good at frustrating people. He prioritizes defense over offense,

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<v Speaker 2>and I prioritize offense because I'm there to give the

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<v Speaker 2>people that spend their hardened money on baby use and

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<v Speaker 2>arena tickets a show a fight, and I'm in there

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<v Speaker 2>to kill someone. I'm not in there to point my

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<v Speaker 2>way to victory. And I think that's where the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>difference between us comes.

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<v Speaker 1>You come across a pretty nice guy, but like, is

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<v Speaker 1>there like a glaze over when you walk in the ring?

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<v Speaker 1>Does something happen to dren? Because when you walk in

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<v Speaker 1>the like you just said, you're going there to kill somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that that's a mindset. How do you how

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<v Speaker 1>do you sort of become that person?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I think people always ask me, do I listened

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<v Speaker 2>to a certain type of music to hype me up?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm fighting a guy in front of millions

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<v Speaker 2>of people that wants to kill me, and I want

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<v Speaker 2>to kill him. That's that's all the motivation you need.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty hyped up when I get out there. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a good question. That's that's what I always tell people.

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<v Speaker 2>The mindset that people always go you have to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to like, you have to be willing to die

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<v Speaker 2>when you get in there. That's true, you have to,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's a minimum requirement. The harder idea is can

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<v Speaker 2>you kill a man when you have to? Yes? I can,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm willing to die, and.

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<v Speaker 1>That I mean I actually I know, yeah, you know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that when I go in there, if there's

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<v Speaker 2>no reef, the ref doesn't stop. But I'm not stopping.

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<v Speaker 2>I can be sitting on you for ten minutes bashing

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<v Speaker 2>your face, you know. If the ref doesn't say stop,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not stopping. And that is the question that me,

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<v Speaker 2>as a as a modern day gladiator, has to ask myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I still willing to die? Absolutely? That's easy. It's

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<v Speaker 2>are you willing to kill a man in front of

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<v Speaker 2>his family? Yes? I am. And that's why I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>world champion because I say yes to that answer that

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<v Speaker 2>question every single time. But that's treec is Stormlocks. Yeah, duplicity,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not Treeck is the guy that you see right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't be living like that the whole time. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's for a lot of athletes a problem

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<v Speaker 2>differentiating against the man in society and the man in

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<v Speaker 2>the arena, two very different people. I can't live my

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<v Speaker 2>life just willing to kill everybody that that wrongs me

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<v Speaker 2>or no. But when the time comes in life as well,

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<v Speaker 2>when you have to defend your family, when you have to,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to be able to pull that trigger.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you when you when he fought Israel, Israel

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<v Speaker 1>was on his back foot the whole time. And I

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<v Speaker 1>kept thinking to myself, I didn't You're sort of putting

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<v Speaker 1>yourself in a difficult position when you keep walking up

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<v Speaker 1>against the cage, especially when you know Israel's normally with hands,

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<v Speaker 1>better off with hands and feet. He's not really a wrestler,

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<v Speaker 1>And but when he fought you, it was a totally

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<v Speaker 1>different deal. He was on the back foot the whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you strategize with your team, I presume we've got

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<v Speaker 1>a big team. You sit down and say, okay, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be on the front foot the whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to take the fight to him, knowing that,

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<v Speaker 1>as you say, he's a great defensive fighter like he's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's got the role and everything on him.

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<v Speaker 1>So how hard or how serious is the whole strategy strategizing?

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<v Speaker 1>And do you train into the strategy or you just

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<v Speaker 1>that's or or is this just drin because that's my style.

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<v Speaker 1>I stick to my style. I don't change my style

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<v Speaker 1>for anybody. How does it work?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's still size of that. So the strategy for

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<v Speaker 2>me is very important. I watch. I've probably watched every

0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:19.760
<v Speaker 2>fight that there is to watch, every division, every division.

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<v Speaker 2>I love fighting. I don't miss a UFC. I love fighting.

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<v Speaker 2>I love watching it. I love you know, because I

0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:28.080
<v Speaker 2>can learn from every What's great about this sport. It's

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<v Speaker 2>so quick evolving that you see a UC fight, you

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<v Speaker 2>maybe miss one weekend, miss another weekend, you watch another.

0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:39.359
<v Speaker 2>It's almost a different sport. The people just get better

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<v Speaker 2>so quickly. So you have to stay on top of that.

0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:46.359
<v Speaker 2>Now in terms of watching tape of everybody in especially

0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:48.879
<v Speaker 2>in my division, watching the guys that's coming up, it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't help. This guy burst on the scene and now

0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:53.640
<v Speaker 2>you're too late. You have to know in the back

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<v Speaker 2>of your mind what this guy does well, what this

0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:58.520
<v Speaker 2>guy's where he's false are, where he's good at and

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<v Speaker 2>the strategy I make my strategy the way I see

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<v Speaker 2>the fight. I see his strengths, his weaknesses, my strength,

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff where I can struggle. My coach does the same,

0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:10.639
<v Speaker 2>some teammates does the same, and we discuss it and

0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:12.600
<v Speaker 2>we see where the similarities are, and that's how we

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<v Speaker 2>compile our game plan. This fight a bit different because

0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:19.400
<v Speaker 2>we've had we've had five rounds in there with each other.

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<v Speaker 2>But that can also be trouble because you're gon't just

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<v Speaker 2>go out there and think it's the same guy. He's

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<v Speaker 2>going to make adjustments. I made adjustments. I believe the

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<v Speaker 2>guy who evolved the most in the last year, so

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<v Speaker 2>that's how long it's been, is the guy who's going

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<v Speaker 2>to win this fight. The guy who's who has made

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<v Speaker 2>the necessary adjustments to be better for this round is

0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:43.840
<v Speaker 2>the guy who's going to win this fight. And I

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<v Speaker 2>made sure of that. I made sure of that.

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<v Speaker 1>So you evolving, evolving the whole time, you're evolving a

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<v Speaker 1>fight game the whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you look at the guy who thought

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<v Speaker 2>that the SIGNA is the guy who fought strictly the

0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:56.480
<v Speaker 2>first time, completely different fighter. And if you like on

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<v Speaker 2>the ninth the third, the guy who's going to afford

0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:02.159
<v Speaker 2>out sign is as kicked against the Driguez that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to show up that night. I know that for a fact,

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<v Speaker 2>and the game plan is very important, but it's a fight.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you get a lot of people, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>one thing I have to give to Suckland. He is

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<v Speaker 2>always down to fight, I can. I know he doesn't

0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:18.360
<v Speaker 2>listen to these coaches. I know he is a radical,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know mentally when he gets frustrated, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>it's a nightmare for a coach, I would assume. But

0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:27.280
<v Speaker 2>he's always there to fight. And that's something you can't teach.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you can have all the systems in the world,

0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:32.679
<v Speaker 2>the best coach, the best team, the best technology, you

0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:35.439
<v Speaker 2>can have everything, the perfect game plan. At the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the day, it's a fight. If you gain bring

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<v Speaker 2>your game plan. I punch you in the mouth. You

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<v Speaker 2>bring your game plan. I just have a power. You

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<v Speaker 2>get tired. Now that fatigue will make a counter of

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<v Speaker 2>you very quickly. You forget about game plan very quickly

0:22:48.160 --> 0:22:51.000
<v Speaker 2>because you don't know what my game plan is. So

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<v Speaker 2>you can have this plan in your mind. Oh I

0:22:52.680 --> 0:22:54.960
<v Speaker 2>did this in this fight, this in this fight. Now,

0:22:55.040 --> 0:22:57.080
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, you're feeling my strength, You're feeling

0:22:57.080 --> 0:22:59.359
<v Speaker 2>my presence in there. You're feeling the pressure that I

0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:01.119
<v Speaker 2>put on you. It's really hard if you have a

0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:03.320
<v Speaker 2>forward game plan and you're fighting a guy that's keeping

0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:05.480
<v Speaker 2>you on your back foot to implement your game plan.

0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:09.000
<v Speaker 1>You look like, I mean, I know your weight division,

0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:11.240
<v Speaker 1>but you don't. You look bigger than your weight division.

0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:13.520
<v Speaker 1>What are you walking around that normally.

0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:16.439
<v Speaker 2>Around one hundred and two one hundred and five kidograms.

0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Right, and so you've got to drop a fav bit

0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:19.400
<v Speaker 1>of weight, Yeah, to make weight.

0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:22.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's me. Like I would say three weeks

0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:25.240
<v Speaker 2>after a fight, three four weeks after your fight, because

0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:27.639
<v Speaker 2>then you know you're training, You're eating whatever you didn't

0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:30.800
<v Speaker 2>eat in the last twelve weeks, eating whatever you want to,

0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:33.920
<v Speaker 2>drinking a lot of beer, and enjoying life a little

0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:35.919
<v Speaker 2>for that for that period because you have to. You

0:23:35.920 --> 0:23:38.159
<v Speaker 2>have to do that. You have to unwind. And also

0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:40.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, I love this sport more than anything, so

0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:45.639
<v Speaker 2>you have to also have that breaks. You can't just

0:23:45.760 --> 0:23:48.000
<v Speaker 2>be focused the whole time. It takes it away. You

0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:51.439
<v Speaker 2>need to go up and go down, go up and

0:23:51.480 --> 0:23:55.639
<v Speaker 2>go down. So yeah, when I'm when i'm yeah, i

0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:58.360
<v Speaker 2>can get to one o five easily. But when I'm

0:23:58.400 --> 0:24:01.680
<v Speaker 2>in good shape, and when I'm not in fight camp

0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:06.760
<v Speaker 2>but in good shape, training every day eating, I'm around

0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:08.000
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and two kilos.

0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:12.840
<v Speaker 1>And so your plan then for in terms of making weight,

0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:18.240
<v Speaker 1>do you is there any residual sort of exhaustion as

0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:19.760
<v Speaker 1>a result of trying to make weight. I mean, like,

0:24:19.880 --> 0:24:23.240
<v Speaker 1>because hydration hydration UFC is a bit different boxing hydration

0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:25.280
<v Speaker 1>UFC is it's a big deal. You've got to be

0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:27.359
<v Speaker 1>probably hydrated. In other words, you know, you can't be

0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:28.159
<v Speaker 1>just yeah, yeah.

0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:29.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean you have to wake us. I mean, you

0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:32.960
<v Speaker 2>can be dehydrated as much as you want on waiting day.

0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 2>It's about fight day, you know. You can you get

0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:38.480
<v Speaker 2>guys that you cut the weight. I mean you can

0:24:38.520 --> 0:24:40.680
<v Speaker 2>cut like if I had to go, I used to

0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:43.159
<v Speaker 2>fight at one seventy so seventy seven kilograms. This is

0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:44.080
<v Speaker 2>the exact same body.

0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Well that's the twenty three kilo drop.

0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:50.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was waiting to say I fought there for

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:53.840
<v Speaker 2>five years. The problem was when when you do that,

0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:58.600
<v Speaker 2>it's the rehydration process that's the most important. The last fight,

0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I thought that was just because as I grew, I

0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:04.600
<v Speaker 2>started twenty one at that weight. When I was twenty

0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:07.840
<v Speaker 2>five twenty six, you know, my body just became heavy

0:25:07.880 --> 0:25:11.639
<v Speaker 2>and bigger. So to make that weight, my body fat

0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:14.640
<v Speaker 2>was like three percent, which is possible, and I made

0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:18.280
<v Speaker 2>the weight, but every shot I would take feels like

0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:21.159
<v Speaker 2>somebody sitting with a baseball bat. Yeah, and that's I said, no,

0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:23.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this anymore because

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:26.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to lose unnecessary fights. And it took the

0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:30.280
<v Speaker 2>joy out of the sport because my diet had I

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:32.480
<v Speaker 2>had run one week off in terms of just diet,

0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 2>and then I had just started dieting for the next

0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:37.320
<v Speaker 2>fight because I would go up from seventy seven, get

0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:41.800
<v Speaker 2>in the cage at around ninety two. A week later,

0:25:41.840 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm one hundred killos again. So then the hall process

0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:47.679
<v Speaker 2>starts all over and that's not healthy. Moved up to

0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:50.679
<v Speaker 2>middleweight the best decision I've ever made because now I

0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:53.200
<v Speaker 2>can have a life outside and when my camp starts,

0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:56.359
<v Speaker 2>I can do it. And it's about that reideration process.

0:25:56.400 --> 0:25:58.960
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't help you make weight, but you can't perform

0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:02.000
<v Speaker 2>on fight night. You get bodyballers. They are allowed to

0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:07.920
<v Speaker 2>use like water stuff that you know, strike take the water.

0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 2>We're not allowed to use any of that. You get

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 2>tested and at the end of the day, you stand

0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:15.520
<v Speaker 2>on a stage flexing, which is I mean, it's to

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:18.000
<v Speaker 2>their own and it's a hard work to get that physique,

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:21.320
<v Speaker 2>of course, but we need to get punished in the face.

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:23.400
<v Speaker 2>You need to be able to perform for the timing.

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:25.840
<v Speaker 2>It's I mean, you have to be able to perform

0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:31.040
<v Speaker 2>at the highest level on earth, you know, cardio wise

0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:34.280
<v Speaker 2>and muscle endurance, all of that. I mean, our whole

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:37.560
<v Speaker 2>bodies consist of water. So if you your brain, I

0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:40.000
<v Speaker 2>mean the shots you take, so you have to take

0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:42.480
<v Speaker 2>all that in consideration when you're cutting this weight, and

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:45.440
<v Speaker 2>do it in such a manner where it doesn't negatively

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:47.080
<v Speaker 2>negatively affect your fights.

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I see Conor McGregor the other day put up a

0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 1>post I don't think that's actually sure where it was

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 1>probably on his own Instagram page, but I said that

0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:58.440
<v Speaker 1>he's not going to do He's not going to fight profiders,

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:02.399
<v Speaker 1>He's going to go and start fighting YouTube. What do

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:03.520
<v Speaker 1>you think about that concept?

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:06.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think where the man has had in his life.

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:09.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Connor McGregor is you know, there's a lot

0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 2>of controversy around the man one hundred percent. But I

0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:15.359
<v Speaker 2>did an interview a couple of months ago where I said,

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:18.159
<v Speaker 2>whether you hate him or love him, you've got to

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:20.920
<v Speaker 2>respect what the man has done and achieve in the sport.

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:23.160
<v Speaker 2>People look at Connor McGregor now they're like, oh, he's

0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:26.919
<v Speaker 2>done well. If he has done, good on him. You know,

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:29.720
<v Speaker 2>good on him, you know, because I've been a fan

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 2>of his for very long. When I was I was

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:34.920
<v Speaker 2>still up and coming, when he's first Understeen or far

0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 2>up and coming. I think my second fight in the

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:42.680
<v Speaker 2>UFC was on the undercut of Connor and dusn't third

0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:48.639
<v Speaker 2>fight and before that when he was Understne, he just

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 2>he was. He almost changed the game in terms of mentality,

0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:56.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, bringing in mental warfare not only as saying

0:27:56.800 --> 0:28:01.920
<v Speaker 2>nasty shit. No, bringing in mental warfare is a tactic

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 2>practicing that mentality practicing. And I was twenty one when

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:11.679
<v Speaker 2>that happened. So I immediately to you and said, this

0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:13.919
<v Speaker 2>is an area, especially locally where I was fighting at

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:17.359
<v Speaker 2>that stage, when people don't even consider this. People just

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 2>go like two people are fighting, get in their node.

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 2>The means of aspect of this creates makes people crush

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:26.119
<v Speaker 2>crushes people with both people. I see people in the

0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:29.480
<v Speaker 2>gym all the time, great fighters, world champion fighters can't

0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:31.359
<v Speaker 2>win a fight in front of people, or when the

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:34.640
<v Speaker 2>lights are shining. He brought that to light. He may

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 2>change the game from we are fighters. When I started

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 2>this sport, I said, she's I hope I make enough

0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 2>money so I can eat. But I don't need to eat.

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 2>I just need to be world champion. That's the only

0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:51.360
<v Speaker 2>thing I thought. And he changed the game to it

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:54.400
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have to be like that, And he made the

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 2>sport more famous than the sport itself worldwide. Everybody knows

0:28:59.160 --> 0:29:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Whoconomy is and if you love him or hate him,

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 2>he was an incredible fighter. He did what no man

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:07.480
<v Speaker 2>before him could do. He beat Chosah although who was

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 2>my favorite all time fighter at that stage. He beat

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 2>the He was then bound for pound number one. He

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 2>beat him in thirty second, thirteen seconds knockout. Then goes

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 2>on becomes the first double division champion in an absolute

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 2>clinical display against Eddie Alvarez, and people forget about that

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 2>immediately now because it's been a while. The man sitting

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 2>on his yacht. Jeez, you know, it's it's kind of

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 2>easy to say yea and judge, but I think everybody's

0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 2>kind of jealous of that. And yeah, I mean the

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 2>man's done some CONSCII or stuff. But that's a completely

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 2>different story as the econo McGregor, that's an athlete. You

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 2>have to give that man all the respect and thanks

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 2>our fighters because of what happened to this sport because

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:55.239
<v Speaker 2>of him and the raising pay. It's as simple as that,

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 2>because of somebody like him who changed the narrative.

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:01.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely so, he did unbelievabletuff for you have see

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:04.480
<v Speaker 1>so McGregor out up, they get who else are you?

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 1>You've been a student in this game for a long time.

0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Who's your you know your goat list?

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Goatless? That's a tough one. I mean, you can't ever

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 2>Denis grade John Jones never ever, ever. I mean this

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 2>guy and I mean the Tom aspinall fight. Let me

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 2>tell you this, Tom Asperov met him. He's an incredible guy, awesome,

0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 2>awesome man, so humble, nice, gentle giant until he gets

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 2>in there. Of course it's a fight I don't need

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:33.120
<v Speaker 2>to see because the world wants to see this John

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Jones because I love aspiral. I think he's a phenomenal.

0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:40.200
<v Speaker 2>He's in the heavyweight division. He has grappling, wrestling, incredible striking.

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 2>You don't see that with heavyweights. John Jones is years

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 2>ahead of everybody, especially at heavyweight, until Aspinall came along.

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we saw what he did with Sarahgan, and

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:58.480
<v Speaker 2>now Aspinall is a young he's hungry. You have Jones

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 2>who is definitely at the end of his career. Watch

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:04.239
<v Speaker 2>thirty eight years old. I don't need to see this

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 2>because he's never been beaten. So I don't need to

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 2>see John Jones fight Aspirnam because I don't want any

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 2>either one of them to lose. I want John Jones

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:16.800
<v Speaker 2>to retire unbeaten. Of course he had that DQ for

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:19.960
<v Speaker 2>twelve to six, which is now legal, but unbeaten and

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 2>the legend that he is, and I want him to retire.

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 2>And Aspronau goes on to be the next big thing,

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 2>but John Jones bring the warrior. That is, he says,

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 2>pay me enough and I'm doing it. Aspona wants it,

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 2>and one of them has to lose that fight. And

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 2>that's the one thing. If you look at it and

0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 2>you go, Aspera is probably gonna win. But then if

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 2>you ask me that, I say, no, no, no. We've

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 2>said that so many times with John Jones, and it

0:31:46.480 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 2>makes it look easy. He is the greatest of all time,

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 2>for sure. You can't deny that. I want to now

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 2>this for now up until this date where fighting exists

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 2>is goat. And then of course Connor McGregor massive inspiration

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 2>for me in terms of how we changed the sport,

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 2>approached the sport. He was a great inspiration to when

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 2>I was young and how to approach it. The guy

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:15.760
<v Speaker 2>that got me into the sport was Merco Crocop from

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 2>the K One Days, because that's how I started. He

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 2>was and he wasn't the UC, but he was already

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 2>forty years old then he was incredible. Anderson Solva was

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 2>the guy that the highlight reels that I obviously you've

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 2>seen me fighter doesn't look like Anderson Solver, but I

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 2>always tried, definitely failed, definitely failed like he was. He's

0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 2>just made it look like a video game. So he's

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:40.440
<v Speaker 2>one of the greats. And then one of my favorite fighters,

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 2>a guy that I've trained with, a guy that I know,

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:47.520
<v Speaker 2>one of the nicest people as well, and he's also

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:50.440
<v Speaker 2>down for anything as a guy a Gilbert Burns. I

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 2>think you know he had a loss against jack Manlena

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 2>in his last outing, but gil Burns is not a

0:32:56.840 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 2>young fighter anymore. Just in terms of the guys he

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:03.600
<v Speaker 2>has beaten. If you look at the fight with Balo Muhammad,

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 2>who is a very dominant champion. What he won his

0:33:05.840 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 2>beout in dominant fashion, decision of course, and he located

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 2>the shoulder in the first round. Thought that fight too,

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:19.240
<v Speaker 2>wasn't the easy fight. It just went but he couldn't

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 2>use it one on. He has the mentality of a champion.

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 2>I've trained with him and how I see that is

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 2>just the work ethic of that man. When he's under

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 2>you get people to be present and be productive. Is

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 2>not the same thing. You can be at the gym

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:32.479
<v Speaker 2>every day. You can be training every day, but are

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 2>you taking in and trying your best every day to

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:39.200
<v Speaker 2>show up. It's not like it's great. It's good for

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 2>your weekend water to show up. If you want to

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 2>be the base in the world, conjure show up. You

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:45.920
<v Speaker 2>have to show up. And that's one thing that I've

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 2>seen from him that's really inspiring. So he's one of

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 2>my favorite fighters too.

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 1>What's really interesting is the way you talk about your

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 1>favorite fighters. But what's it really interesting is the way

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 1>you positioned Jones, et cetera. It's newly like there's a

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:01.960
<v Speaker 1>romantic I don't mean in a love your other sense,

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:06.719
<v Speaker 1>but I mean like there's a romance associated with the

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 1>fight game, and for those people who you hold up

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 1>in such high esteem, it's like it's not just the entertainment,

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:15.439
<v Speaker 1>not just the athleticism, not just the hardness, but there's

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:20.320
<v Speaker 1>a romance in there. You absolutely love the game. Yeah,

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 1>would it be fair summation?

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? I think when people ask me what advice I

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 2>would give any youngsters, and don't give them the advice

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:32.279
<v Speaker 2>of work hard to make the sacrifices. They know that

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 2>you should know that by the time, and you'll figure

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 2>that out very quickly, and you can just google motivation

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:42.279
<v Speaker 2>or YouTube and that's what they'll all tell you. You have

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 2>to love this more than anything that you do, because

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:48.279
<v Speaker 2>people look at me now and actually listen to me now,

0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 2>because I'm the champion of the world. Up until then,

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:54.839
<v Speaker 2>you don't know what am I going to do after

0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:58.359
<v Speaker 2>discuss I spent my whole life. I didn't develop any

0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 2>other skills in life. I didn't build up a CV.

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:03.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's going to be hard to get a

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:04.919
<v Speaker 2>job if you say, now, what do you do before

0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:08.279
<v Speaker 2>there's no fight people? Other than being a balance I guess.

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:12.359
<v Speaker 2>If you don't make it, you don't make it. It's

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 2>only one way.

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:13.799
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of risk.

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:16.279
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of risk if and now you get

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 2>you I was very young when I started fighting professionally.

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 2>Some guys only get professionally twenty five. If you don't

0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:26.279
<v Speaker 2>get to the UC by thirty, you're getting in a

0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 2>situation of okay, am I going to Because if you

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:36.799
<v Speaker 2>don't get into a PFL at least an mma. I'm

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:41.320
<v Speaker 2>talking about stam a PFL at least or the UC

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 2>and make it to the top, you have to know

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:49.440
<v Speaker 2>that you're not going to be set. You're not going

0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:53.280
<v Speaker 2>to be able to you know, you have after your career.

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:57.319
<v Speaker 2>You have to have something to look after you. I'm

0:35:57.320 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 2>talking about and quickly, because if you don't make it,

0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 2>you don't make it. It's all you make it or

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:03.399
<v Speaker 2>you don't.

0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:04.360
<v Speaker 1>It's all or nothing.

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:05.240
<v Speaker 2>It's all or nothing.

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 1>It's a huge risk.

0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:08.440
<v Speaker 2>It's only one way to find out, and that's to

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 2>go for it. If you go, I want to do this,

0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:14.160
<v Speaker 2>but I have to, you know, still make sure that

0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:16.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm taking care of some things. If this doesn't begut

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 2>you already lost it. You'll never make it can.

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Actual question about southe because it's really important question for me.

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:23.960
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if you're Rememberinghi, But many years

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:26.560
<v Speaker 1>ago I had quite a good relationship with a guy

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:29.000
<v Speaker 1>called town Strauss, a repe union.

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:33.719
<v Speaker 2>Guy Spremeboo, captain of the station and any capitiustraight he

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 2>come over here to live and any capustraighta.

0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:38.440
<v Speaker 1>But Tim work for you in another business because he

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:41.360
<v Speaker 1>was a lawyer. But he told me that. And I

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know what this is about South Africans, but he

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:46.799
<v Speaker 1>told me that when he was a young man, and

0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was all bullshit, but he said they

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:52.480
<v Speaker 1>used to drive alongside I think he said Wildebeest or

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:54.279
<v Speaker 1>something like that, and actually jump out of the back

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:57.440
<v Speaker 1>of the jeep order was and try his father's to

0:36:57.480 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 1>gin and try and tackle it. There's something about South Africa,

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 1>the mindset that they're bloody, hard minded, tough minded people.

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Now we've only just seen you here in the UFC.

0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 1>There aren't a lot of South Africans in the UFC.

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:15.279
<v Speaker 1>There's not even a lot of South African boxes even

0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:18.719
<v Speaker 1>out there at the moment that are known. But what

0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:20.800
<v Speaker 1>is it about South Africans it makes them so hard minded.

0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:23.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean people from South Africa. I'm talking about, not

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:24.880
<v Speaker 1>the ones that live here, but the ones from South Africa.

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:28.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the ones from South Africa, I think, especially what

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 2>you are talking about now, South Africans in general, English, Afrikaans.

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 2>We have eleven twelve official languages, so that's eleven twelve

0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:43.560
<v Speaker 2>different cultures. So in my culture has Afrikaans, South African.

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, my dad is extremely tough. Hard work is

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 2>installed in us like you wouldn't believe. It's not like

0:37:55.719 --> 0:38:00.239
<v Speaker 2>I see sometimes I see, for example, a kid like

0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:03.280
<v Speaker 2>talking back to his parents, and I see the situation

0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 2>and I go, and the parents go, you are going

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:12.080
<v Speaker 2>to the naughty corner. I didn't get a naughty corner. No, no, no,

0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 2>it's not how it works in our culture. You get

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:20.360
<v Speaker 2>a naughty backhand. That's what you get. And you know,

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:24.319
<v Speaker 2>it's about discipline. And there's a lot of love. My

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:26.960
<v Speaker 2>parents love in my dad, my mom, they love me.

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:31.920
<v Speaker 2>But I was brought up hard and right because not

0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:36.400
<v Speaker 2>a struggle. There's a lot of struggle. It wasn't a struggle. Now,

0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:40.440
<v Speaker 2>I grew up in an amazing family. It is hard

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:43.399
<v Speaker 2>in a sense that you will show respect and you

0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:49.840
<v Speaker 2>will appreciate every single thing you have, no matter what

0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:54.279
<v Speaker 2>it is. I was rewarded for winning, and I was

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:57.239
<v Speaker 2>told when I didn't do good enough that it wasn't

0:38:57.280 --> 0:38:59.880
<v Speaker 2>good enough. In the UFC when I for Derek Branson,

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:03.560
<v Speaker 2>that's actually a funny story, I thought Derek Brunson and

0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:05.960
<v Speaker 2>it was a tough fight. No, you know, my Chodio.

0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:08.400
<v Speaker 2>It was a great camp, felt amazing, but it was

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:12.560
<v Speaker 2>that first round was so intense. It was you know,

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:15.279
<v Speaker 2>it was wrestling. It was full speed. Second round came out.

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:17.759
<v Speaker 2>I was tired, he was tired, but I just kept

0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:19.719
<v Speaker 2>on pushing. And that's that minded you talked about. And

0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:24.359
<v Speaker 2>I got home at the airport and you know, I

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:26.279
<v Speaker 2>just became number five in the world, the first South

0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:30.400
<v Speaker 2>African ever to even get close to a ranking. I

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:32.800
<v Speaker 2>get home, we get in the car, so happy to

0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:35.799
<v Speaker 2>see my parents. They're so happy to see me, and

0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 2>they go, jeez, so you still want to be world champion?

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:43.880
<v Speaker 2>I said, well, yeah, it's my whole life is dedicated

0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 2>this one. They go, not if you fight like that?

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 2>That was terrible and I'm almost I couldn't I couldn't

0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:54.319
<v Speaker 2>even fathom what was happening right now, said, excuse me,

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:57.399
<v Speaker 2>I was right, number ten. I just became number five

0:39:57.520 --> 0:40:01.759
<v Speaker 2>in the world. Like, no, that's amazing, But you won't

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:04.280
<v Speaker 2>be number Like it's number five what you want to achieve,

0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:07.400
<v Speaker 2>because like that, you're not achieving number one. Like number

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:09.839
<v Speaker 2>five will be the highest achievement you'll get if that's

0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:12.520
<v Speaker 2>the way you want to do it. And I was

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 2>almost I couldn't believe I was studying like I am

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:19.760
<v Speaker 2>right now. I couldn't believe it. And they said, listen,

0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:22.319
<v Speaker 2>we are so we couldn't be more proud. We are

0:40:22.360 --> 0:40:25.719
<v Speaker 2>just saying we're not saying you didn't work hard enough.

0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:28.239
<v Speaker 2>We're not saying you're not doing enough. We're saying there's

0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:30.239
<v Speaker 2>a change needed, some you need to do. You need

0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:32.240
<v Speaker 2>to find it. It's your career. You need to find

0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 2>something for the next level, because like that, you won't

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:36.720
<v Speaker 2>make it. I'm sorry.

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:40.520
<v Speaker 3>So it would would a good description be tough love.

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:44.120
<v Speaker 3>And I was angry at them. I was literally sitting

0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 3>in a carr and I'm not saying a word. I

0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:48.400
<v Speaker 3>just got back for a month away from her, and

0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:50.800
<v Speaker 3>I then when started thinking about it, made the changes

0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:53.800
<v Speaker 3>that was needed. You know, the introspection, I was angry

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:57.759
<v Speaker 3>first like and then in perspection processed it and I said, shit,

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:00.880
<v Speaker 3>they were right. I need to make it made the

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 3>change in your AWM today. So that you know my

0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:07.800
<v Speaker 3>parents when I was younger, they were very hard on us,

0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:11.400
<v Speaker 3>but rightfully so, because we were naughty little shits, me

0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 3>and my brother if maybe we would have been in

0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:16.239
<v Speaker 3>jail if it wasn't what they because I would be

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:19.799
<v Speaker 3>more afraid of my parents finding out when I when

0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:22.239
<v Speaker 3>we were making shit than going to jail.

0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:24.279
<v Speaker 2>I was like, please please lock me up. If my

0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 2>dad finds me or my mom, we're in big trouble.

0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:30.880
<v Speaker 2>And that taught us respect. It wasn't fear, it was respect.

0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:34.960
<v Speaker 2>And to this day, you know, my brothers, myself and

0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:38.200
<v Speaker 2>my parents, we are so close. We see each other

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 2>every week, you know, we and that's very rare these days.

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:45.040
<v Speaker 2>You like, me and my brothers are best friends. Me

0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:47.319
<v Speaker 2>and my mom and dad and my brothers. We are

0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 2>so close because we have that. And when you're younger,

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:54.920
<v Speaker 2>you don't necessarily understand why are they punishing me like this.

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:58.360
<v Speaker 2>I never got grounded, no ways, that's not You go

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:00.680
<v Speaker 2>to the farm and you work for a week, because

0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:06.360
<v Speaker 2>you don't have manners and that was it. You're rewarded

0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:08.600
<v Speaker 2>for hard work and you were punished with hard work.

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:09.360
<v Speaker 2>I love that.

0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:12.439
<v Speaker 1>I think it's to me that's the best one before

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 1>suns that I had to do that, But I mean,

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:16.279
<v Speaker 1>I love that type of process. I'm one quick last

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:17.799
<v Speaker 1>question and I want to get wound up. Keep warning

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 1>because I know you've got a busy schedule. And by

0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:21.840
<v Speaker 1>the way, can I say it's a great privilege to

0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:26.280
<v Speaker 1>have you sitting here and I really appreciate it. I'm

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm meekly lucky to be able to interview Pereira next week.

0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:31.840
<v Speaker 1>What question would you want to ask him? Because I

0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:33.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know what to ask him? What would you ask him?

0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:36.960
<v Speaker 2>If how's it going to feel to be in Sean

0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Striegland's corner losing again? Ask him that I'll ask him that.

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:43.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say it's from you. If you don't

0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 2>know one day when we fight, you will be zero

0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:50.080
<v Speaker 2>and two really great, So really have to say. I

0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:55.480
<v Speaker 2>think when we talked about my goat list, ye, I

0:42:55.520 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 2>can't name him because he's a potential opponent, but doesn't

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:03.120
<v Speaker 2>really matter, like it doesn't change me. Like I said,

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:05.000
<v Speaker 2>you can be my friend, you can be the biggest asshole.

0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:07.120
<v Speaker 2>I will still kill you in there. It's a job

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:10.560
<v Speaker 2>to be done. I think he is one of the

0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:15.879
<v Speaker 2>greatest combat athletes to ever live. He is a phenomenal

0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 2>athlete to go in a short period of time from

0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:21.320
<v Speaker 2>a different sport and not just a difference, but kickboxing,

0:43:21.320 --> 0:43:25.080
<v Speaker 2>which is not a great base for MMA. It helps,

0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:29.759
<v Speaker 2>but if that's the only thing, you know, not a

0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:32.759
<v Speaker 2>great base, you know, if you want to go up

0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 2>against these wrestling guys. He came in and just went

0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:42.960
<v Speaker 2>through everyone after being one of the greatest K one

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:46.960
<v Speaker 2>keyboxes to ever live, I mean in multiple titles at

0:43:46.960 --> 0:43:48.960
<v Speaker 2>the highest level, comes in in a short period of

0:43:48.960 --> 0:43:53.040
<v Speaker 2>time and just becomes a two like became a middleway champion,

0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:56.400
<v Speaker 2>ghost lighte ever it becomes champion and being one of

0:43:56.440 --> 0:44:00.720
<v Speaker 2>the biggest names, always always ready to fight. The world's

0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 2>respect for him as a fighter, I think, and you know,

0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:06.520
<v Speaker 2>as a person even I think we are rivals, but

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:09.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, I have the utmost respect for what he

0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:12.880
<v Speaker 2>is achieved in the sport and he's truly one of

0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:15.719
<v Speaker 2>the goats to ever not do m m A or

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:19.640
<v Speaker 2>the UFC in combat sports. I think probably the most

0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:22.279
<v Speaker 2>achieved combat sports athlete the worlds have we seen.

0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Thanks Dregs mate, good luck, Thank you really seriously