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Speaker 1: But if you got the Sunday Mail yesterday, or maybe

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Speaker 1: if you were watching television last night. In the mail anyway,

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Speaker 1: on page two and three there's a full page spread

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Speaker 1: on both those pages. It's headed building a Bigger Building

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Speaker 1: a bigger health system across essay. So the state government

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Speaker 1: has bought two pages of the Sunday Mail and paid

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Speaker 1: for an ad on television to basically tell us they're

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Speaker 1: doing what they're doing to try and improve the health system.

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Speaker 1: Total cost just under two million dollars of our tax

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Speaker 1: dollars to let us know there are problems they're trying

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Speaker 1: to fix. Ben Hood is the Shadow Minister for Government

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Speaker 1: Accountability and joins me now been good morning, Good morning, Matthew.

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Speaker 1: It is concerning. That's a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: It's a hell a lot of money, Matthew. I was

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Speaker 2: sitting in my loundry last night with my lovely wife

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Speaker 2: el who's an RN midwife down here in Metcambia, and

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Speaker 2: I can't really repeat what she said because there was

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Speaker 2: a few expleeves in there, but she said, are you serious?

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Speaker 2: Are they spending this money on advertising essentially gas lighting

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Speaker 2: the people of South Australia to tell them how great

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Speaker 2: our health system is after record spending, record ramping. We've

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Speaker 2: got a government that we've got a bad government trying

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Speaker 2: to convince South Australia is they're a good government by

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Speaker 2: spending taxpayers money. It's pretty outrageous. And what I didn't

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Speaker 2: see on the ad Matthew was record ramping. I didn't

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Speaker 2: see code yellows. I didn't see regional midwives in tears

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Speaker 2: because of their workload. I didn't see people from ant

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Speaker 2: Gambia having to do ten hour round trips for a

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Speaker 2: radiation treatment. We've just got nothing but spin from a

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Speaker 2: government that's just trying to shift the narrative constantly. We

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Speaker 2: saw Rick Morris only a couple of weeks ago in

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Speaker 2: Budget and Finance trying to say that no, no, no, we

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Speaker 2: never said we were going to fix ramping. We're just

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Speaker 2: got to move some We're going to move some number around.

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Speaker 2: We're going to try and make it a little bit better.

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Speaker 2: It is our ageous and I just don't know how

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Speaker 2: this government can think they can continue to get away,

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Speaker 2: as I said, gas lighting the people of South Australia.

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Speaker 1: You've got to ask a question, don't you. At one

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Speaker 1: point nine million dollars on this campaign. We know there

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Speaker 1: are issues. We know there's record ramping and it's been

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Speaker 1: record over the last few months. And the code yellows

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Speaker 1: you're right, they continue that tends to be brushed aside.

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Speaker 1: But while the Code Yellow itself has been lifted, the

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Speaker 1: hospitals and specialists have been told if you need to

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Speaker 1: implement a ban because you're too busy, you can And

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Speaker 1: I suppose people are still waiting.

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Speaker 2: Well, they are still waiting. And we've got major issues

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Speaker 2: within our regional health areas. We've got major issues around

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Speaker 2: across all of our health sector. We've got records spending

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Speaker 2: for absolutely horrible outcomes. I'm just not sure how this

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Speaker 2: government can really with a straight face. And the Treasurer

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Speaker 2: was on today on another radio with a straight face

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Speaker 2: telling him telling people of South Australia that this was

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Speaker 2: essentially like a recruiting advert. Well, I'm pretty sure the

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Speaker 2: young people don't really watch free to air anymore. They

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Speaker 2: probably don't actually read the paper anymore, so that means

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Speaker 2: they're also spending money across social media. They're also spending

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Speaker 2: money across YouTube to try and reach young people supposedly. Really, again,

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Speaker 2: this is a government trying to convince people that they're

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Speaker 2: doing a good job and they're simply not And the

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Speaker 2: fact that they're using taxpayers money to do it really

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Speaker 2: should get up the back of every South Australia.

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Speaker 1: Oh I got to say, Ben, The bit on the

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Speaker 1: ad that really sort of sticks up my nose is

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Speaker 1: they've identified different regions Metro South, Metro City and East,

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Speaker 1: Metro North and Northeast Regional and Metro West, and there's

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Speaker 1: points of what they're doing in every section and each

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Speaker 1: of those blocks ends with and so much more and

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Speaker 1: what you've run out of ideas you just want to say,

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Speaker 1: and so much more. I mean, that's almost a slap

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Speaker 1: in the face. How about fixing ramping and so much more?

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Speaker 2: Exactly, how about fixing ramping? How about spending the two

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Speaker 2: million dollars that they're spending on advertising to make themselves

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Speaker 2: look good and actually funding radiotherapy in the Southeast, something

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Speaker 2: they turned their back on and we had to announce

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Speaker 2: because we had sixteen thousand people signing a petition calling

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Speaker 2: for that your postcode shouldn't affect your health outcomes. But

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Speaker 2: that's what we're seeing with this government. They really are

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Speaker 2: just trying to pull the wall over our eyes. I

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Speaker 2: think South Australians are getting pretty sick of it, to be.

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Speaker 1: Quite honest, all Ben. Here's the catch though for the

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Speaker 1: Liberal Party because in opposition every party says, you'll never

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Speaker 1: see us do this in government, and of course they

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Speaker 1: get into government and they can't resist because it's a

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Speaker 1: chance to get publicity and hopefully a few votes wing behind,

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Speaker 1: and that's what it's all about ultimately. So would you

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Speaker 1: make a pledge on your leader's behalf that in government

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Speaker 1: the Liberal Party would never do this and spend this

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Speaker 1: much money on advertising.

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Speaker 2: Well, Matthew I Onink last week we actually supported a

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Speaker 2: bill from the Honorable Rob Simms which is actually calling

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Speaker 2: the government to account. The government voted against it, even

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Speaker 2: though it was actually a bill that was partly the

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Speaker 2: same as a bill from the Treasurer when he was

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Speaker 2: in opposition, Stephen Mulligan. We supported this bill. Rob Sims

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Speaker 2: brought it on to say when we get into election

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Speaker 2: time there needs to be caps on the amount of

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Speaker 2: money that can be spent on advertising. We supported it.

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Speaker 2: The government trotted out the Honorable tool No to say no, no,

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Speaker 2: actually we're against this because we're already doing it. You

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Speaker 2: just trust us, which is just again another bit of

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Speaker 2: gas lighting with this government and then it went down

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Speaker 2: to the Lowhouse and died a very quick death. We've

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Speaker 2: backed in this bill from the Greens because we do

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Speaker 2: think it's sensible to do that when we get to

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Speaker 2: an election time, we shouldn't be sitting there and seeing

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Speaker 2: propaganda after propaganda being put up on our television screens

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Speaker 2: and on our social media. But that's what we're seeing

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Speaker 2: right here, right now, telling us that we've got a

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Speaker 2: great health system. Again, this is a bad government trying

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Speaker 2: to convince South Australians that they're a good one by

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Speaker 2: spending tax payer money.

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Speaker 1: All Ben Hood appreciate your time, Thank you. Thanks Mathie

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Speaker 1: the Shadow Minister for Government Accountability,