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Speaker 1: I'm got to agree with this.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to another installment of you project. It's Fatty Harps.

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Speaker 2: It's Monday morning at seven point thirty seven. I've had

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Speaker 2: my caffeine. I'm fucking good to go. I'm fired. Dr

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Speaker 2: Cam McDonald from the Shay Group, who is an old

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Speaker 2: friend of the show and straight up smarty pants, joins me.

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Speaker 1: Hi, mate, how are you great?

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Speaker 3: Thanks Harp.

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Speaker 4: It's great to be back to man, it's been a

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Speaker 4: little while. It's lovely to see it.

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Speaker 1: It's been what do you do you reckon? It's been

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Speaker 1: a year or maybe more.

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Speaker 4: It could be it could be eight en months. I

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Speaker 4: think we were just starting. I think I just started

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Speaker 4: some of the pilot groups in the precision learning stuff

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Speaker 4: that we were doing when I was talking about some

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Speaker 4: learning differences between people last time.

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Speaker 2: I think now in the last eight ten months, we've

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Speaker 2: got a whole lot of new listeners and a more

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Speaker 2: expansive audience from all over the world and of course

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Speaker 2: primarily Australia. But tell everyone who you are and what

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Speaker 2: you do, and for those like some might have forgotten,

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Speaker 2: but some have never met you.

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Speaker 1: So give us the Cam story.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so it started in Gunder Guy fast forward twelve years,

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Speaker 4: actually twenty years.

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Speaker 3: I'm in Sydney wanting to do a lot with sports.

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Speaker 4: Ended up doing exercise and Sports science because I thought

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Speaker 4: exercise and sports science is as close as I can

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Speaker 4: get to sports without being an the lead athlete. And

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Speaker 4: our third year had an incredible moment where an a

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Speaker 4: lecturer started telling me about how you can reverse diabetes

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Speaker 4: with exercise, and I just made this decision in my

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Speaker 4: mind that we needed to reverse diabetes immediately, and why

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Speaker 4: isn't everybody exercising all of the time.

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Speaker 3: This seems insane that we're not doing it.

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Speaker 4: And in my last term of my last semester of

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Speaker 4: my four year degree x FIZZ, I found out about nutrients.

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Speaker 4: It had been fairly exercise focused, and I said, geez,

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Speaker 4: I think I should know a little bit more about nutrients.

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Speaker 4: So applied for a dietetics Masters and got in at

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Speaker 4: Griffith up at the Goldie that worked in hospital. Realized

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Speaker 3: I want to prevent them.

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Speaker 4: So I did my PhD in prevention of chronic disease

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Speaker 3: So we're looking at a Mega three and exercise in that.

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Speaker 4: And then I was working in private practice realized that

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Speaker 3: People in my research the same.

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Speaker 4: Protocols and I was seeing completely different responses, like some

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Speaker 4: individuals losing five kilos and they're just loving life, and

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Speaker 4: then another person's working much harder than them and gained

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Speaker 4: a kilo of fat and lost muscle in the same

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Speaker 4: period of time on exactly the same protocol.

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Speaker 3: And I was seeing that in private practice as well,

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Speaker 4: Journey that sort of took me, took me through my PhD,

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Speaker 4: but it was too late to adjust my study. I've

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Speaker 4: now been in the space of precision health and medicine

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Speaker 4: for the last eleven years, ten years, and what I

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Speaker 4: do now is I educate health professionals, I educate corporates, schools, gyms,

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Speaker 4: minutes on how we're different. So how we are genetically different,

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Speaker 4: biologically different, finotypically different. That is the expression of our

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Speaker 4: genes and if we can measure that, And this is

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Speaker 4: what we've been doing for the last twenty years as

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Speaker 3: Is what makes you different?

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Speaker 4: And how can we quantify that so that we can

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Speaker 4: provide the best possible thing for you in that moment,

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Speaker 4: because your requirements are always changing as well, and so

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Speaker 4: it's morphed from any journey of oh you got to

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Speaker 4: eat more spinach and you've got to lift that weight

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Speaker 4: to what is it to be a human on the planet? Like,

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Speaker 4: what are all of these signals that are coming into

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Speaker 4: our body? How do we interpret them with our mind,

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Speaker 4: with our body? What makes life incredible? And the answer

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Speaker 4: is ultimately getting back to yourself. If you unders down

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Speaker 4: you're under a winner. So all of the work is

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Speaker 4: about elevating people's awareness around themselves, how they can contribute,

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Speaker 4: how they can be the healthiest self, regressing disease as

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Speaker 4: a whole lot of research going on at the same time.

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Speaker 3: So that's a brief summary.

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Speaker 2: We have a guy another guy on who's almost as brilliant. Know,

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Speaker 2: he's just as brilliant as you, I'll say you the same,

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Speaker 2: doctor Bill Sullivan from the States, and he's a researcher

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Speaker 2: and also brilliant. We were talking the other day about essentially,

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Speaker 2: you know, something works for everybody, but not everything works

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Speaker 2: for everybody, So you've got to find you something, you

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Speaker 1: And it's like, especially on the fucking interwebs.

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Speaker 2: Cam you're probably not familiar with the into webs, but

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Speaker 2: there's this thing called social media. And if you pay

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Speaker 2: attention to social media every second, fucker's got some product

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Speaker 2: that's going to fix everyone, some single product that's going

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Speaker 2: to universally fix every ailment known to person kind. And

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Speaker 2: like it's so it's like when even when people say

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Speaker 2: the best way to you know, fill in the blank,

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Speaker 2: and I go, well, for who? Because the best way

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Speaker 2: to achieve, you know, to put on muscle for you

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Speaker 2: won't be the same as me, won't be the same

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Speaker 2: or and and you know, and even then you go, well,

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Speaker 2: even if we get say that the strength training stuff right,

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Speaker 2: of view, then there's all the other variables, the genetics,

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Speaker 2: the sleep, the nutrition, the stress, the anxiety, that there's

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Speaker 2: And like people keept like you and I don't want

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Speaker 2: to overcomplicate it because then we just alienate people. But

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Speaker 2: at the same time, this kind of group think that

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Speaker 2: happens on the internet, which is or here's here's a

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Speaker 2: thing that will create that outcome for you, it just ain't.

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Speaker 1: True, is it?

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Speaker 4: Well exactly, and I mean to your point, if you

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Speaker 4: watch social media very very closely, you end up on

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Speaker 4: a high fat, low fat, high protein, high carb low

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Speaker 4: and then, as you were saying, it's what's been so

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Speaker 4: we're talking about chronobiology. Even the timing of when you

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Speaker 4: thing that's going to stress the mentally. So just this

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Speaker 3: And that's where the complex it is.

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Speaker 4: But that's also where you know, we have an inner

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Speaker 4: it can be assisted by a lot of these new

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's amazing. Before we jumped on the show,

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Speaker 2: that because I think people will be interested. So just

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Speaker 2: repeat for my group what you're telling me that you've

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Speaker 4: That felt so good, And it's sort of come to

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Speaker 4: And what gets me excited from a physiological standpoint, being

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Speaker 4: Mechanics, the intellect, and the knowledge to truly have an

439
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 4: incredibly blissful existence on this planet, and we create so

440
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 4: much noise as we are lost in all of a

441
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 4: lack of self awareness, a lack of self acceptance at

442
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 4: a core level.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so good, dude, I like it.

444
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Speaker 2: I'm always interested in the conversation around identity in relation

445
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 2: to what we're talking about, because that who am I?

446
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 2: That's you know, the self that like, what the fuck

447
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 2: am I about?

448
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: What's my reason? What's my purpose. Who am I?

449
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 2: But in our I'm generalizing here, so listener, this might

450
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 2: not be you. But for a lot of people, their

451
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 2: identity is about their stuff. It's about their body, it's

452
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 2: about their brand, it's about their balance, about their job,

453
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 2: about their reputation, it's about their fucking the number of

454
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: podcast listeners. What are you saying, harps nothing, fuck off?

455
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 2: You know, it's about all of that stuff that other

456
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 2: people can see. I get my sense of self, or

457
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 2: I get my identity from knowing that I'm right by

458
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 2: the way, I'm in the One True Church.

459
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: We're going to heaven. You're not. You know, I'm in

460
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 1: the light, you're in the darkness.

461
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 2: Blah blah, all that kind of all of that external

462
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 2: stuff of trying to understand the self, and then one

463
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 2: day you find out that something that you believed is bullshit,

464
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 2: something that your identity was intertwined with, and then you're

465
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 2: fucked because you go, well, shit, if that's not true,

466
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 2: then who am I? Because that's been part of you know,

467
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 2: my existence and my purpose and myself.

468
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, and yes, and that's a it's a mismatch of.

469
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 3: What identity is and what my immediate purpose.

470
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 4: It's describing the identity as a being in it's who

471
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 4: you are as opposed to what you do. Then the

472
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 4: purpose it is the personification or that the action related

473
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 4: to that, and probably the thing that came up for

474
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 4: me and I guess I'm just turning some things over

475
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 4: my mind as we talk. Here was the transition from

476
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 4: working professional partner into mum and the identity crisis that

477
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 4: happens at that point because we mix up the idea that.

478
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 3: What we're doing is our identity and at the core

479
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 3: of things.

480
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 4: And this is what we see genetically, is that people

481
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 4: become more like their.

482
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 3: Genes as they age. So the longer that.

483
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 4: You're on the planet, the more predictable your personality is

484
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 4: compared to your genetics. So it's like our whole life,

485
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 4: we are discovering our genetic makeup. And an example of

486
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 4: that is, let's say that you've got some testoster and sensitivity.

487
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 3: You will know that you're more competitive than other people.

488
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 4: You'll know that you're more aggressive, you'll know that you're

489
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 4: more direct, and that's a genetic marker that creates a

490
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 4: receptor that influences the way that your body responds to things.

491
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 4: And that's there, and you discover that and become more

492
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 4: comfortable with it over time, and you get criticized for it,

493
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 4: and then you question yourself and you get very confused

494
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 4: about who you are and then you realize. And probably

495
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 4: one of the other things as well that you see

496
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 4: is people when they start to interpret and get the

497
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 4: information on oh, this is my makeup, this is this

498
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 4: is my natural biological self. The things that they thought

499
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 4: they were they now know that they are. And there's

500
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 4: a huge sense of grounded relief that comes along with

501
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 4: the sense of knowing rather than an inkling and questioning

502
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 4: as to.

503
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 3: Oh, should I be like that? Do I like waking

504
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 3: up later? You know?

505
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess I get up early, but do

506
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 4: I really know? Actually, I just love waking up later.

507
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 4: I love being more relaxed in the morning. Like that's

508
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 4: who I am. I am a thinker, or I do

509
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 4: act impulsively, whatever it may be. So I've definitely lost

510
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 4: the train of thought of well, that's her identity and purpose.

511
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 4: And so when we're looking at identity, even at children,

512
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 4: like the level of children, is that this biology and

513
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 4: these responses e genetic influencers are actually playing out. But

514
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 4: what we see is that kids represent about their personality

515
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 4: is fifteen percent genetics when they're younger, and that's because

516
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 4: they are constantly monitoring the environment to say, how do

517
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 4: I fit in? How do I survive? And what we're

518
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 4: doing right now is we're helping children understand, hey, this

519
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 4: is your makeup right here, and you can do some

520
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 4: incredible things with that. And that child over there they've

521
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 4: got a different makeup too, and they're going to do

522
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 4: some incredible things with that too. The more sure you

523
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 4: are of yourself earlier on, in an accepting, an encouraged,

524
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 4: and a celebrated way, stress that you'll be under because

525
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 4: when you feel like you are yourself when you're and

526
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 4: this is where you're in your strength, and this is

527
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 4: essentially flow. You get this incredible release of nora adrenaline

528
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 4: and don't meant to make you alert. You also get

529
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 4: more serotone to make you calm. You also get low

530
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 4: cortisol and a better heart rhythm that indicates lower stress.

531
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 4: So you're calm and attentive and focused, and that's where

532
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 4: great stuff happens. That's where flow happens. If you add

533
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 4: in an andamide, which is the cannabinoid sort of reward hormone,

534
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 4: then it's flow. If you add in oxytocin and it's

535
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 4: happening with somebody else, then it's love. And the for

536
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 4: a person to sit in their strengths and be competitive

537
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 4: because they're competitive and direct, and then somebody else to say,

538
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 4: geez I love your competition, geez I love your directness,

539
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 4: it firms up their identity. And so when they become

540
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 4: a mum, and this is what we see with this

541
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,959
Speaker 4: type of individual. Normally, this kind of person have a

542
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 4: really intense, short attention span and they don't want to

543
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 4: sit with their child all day long. They just want

544
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 4: to like interact with them and then leave because they're like, Okay,

545
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 4: I'm a little bit bored now. This child's just lying

546
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 4: down for six months NonStop and I'm not going to

547
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 4: survive through that.

548
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 3: So but them knowing it's.

549
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 4: Like, oh, I'm competitive and intense and I like high

550
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 4: intensity action and then I like rest. And they realize

551
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 4: that their identity still exists. Their purpose has changed and

552
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 4: now they've got a high intensity interval look after their child.

553
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 4: And if they do that, if they bring their natural

554
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 4: sense of self to the activity that they're.

555
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: Doing, it informs them and then allows them to stay

556
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 3: and flow.

557
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 4: But normally because we have norms around this new change

558
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 4: of who you've got to be and what you've got

559
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,479
Speaker 4: to do as a new mother or whatever it might be.

560
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 4: It's just a really clear identity change that I see

561
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 4: a lot.

562
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 3: Then it creates a whole lot.

563
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 4: Of confusion if I was this person and now I

564
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 4: can't be that person. But in fact, the essence of

565
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 4: who you are still there, and it's a matter of

566
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 4: just knowing that, and then you can apply it to

567
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 4: your next immediate purpose, which is now looking after a child,

568
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 4: which wasn't your purpose, you know, two years before.

569
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: That's so interesting. I think that we're always that, you know.

570
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: It's funny this which I.

571
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: Know exactly why you said it, because it gets said

572
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 2: all the time, whereas people go, I was that person

573
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 2: now and this person. No, you're the same person. You're

574
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: the same You're still you, You're still one hundred percent you. You're

575
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: just maybe have a different focus, you maybe have a

576
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: different reason you maybe have you know. But like I

577
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: think the idea of purpose is. I think it's important,

578
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 2: but I also think it's complicated and it's confused.

579
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: This is just a personal opinion. This is not research.

580
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: I think it's misrepresented because the idea of you know,

581
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: find your purpose, find your purpose.

582
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: I can watch your purpose like you're.

583
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 2: Going to find it under some mystical, magical, ethereal rock.

584
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: You're going to go, fuck hey everyone, And I've been

585
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: looking like a motherfucker. It's over here, behind this cave,

586
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: under this rock. Ye. Firstly, maybe you choose your purpose, right,

587
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: Maybe there's that, maybe you just go. And also maybe

588
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 2: you don't have a single purpose. Maybe maybe you don't

589
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: have one purpose. Maybe you live a really full, fucking

590
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 2: rich life with a bunch of different things that stimulate

591
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: you and light you up.

592
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: And also, by the way, Craig Harper.

593
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: Maybe your purpose when you're thirty five or thirty and

594
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: owning gyms and running around the gym floor like a

595
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: fucking idiot. Maybe maybe your purpose then isn't your purpose

596
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: now when you're sixty. Maybe maybe things evolve and changes,

597
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: You evolve and change, and you know, so I think

598
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 2: I think in our culture there's probably an unintentional but nonetheless.

599
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: A very real pressure on people to fucking discover their purpose.

600
00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 4: By Tuesday Camp, Yeah, totally and completely, and that is

601
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 4: we have many purposes not only in this moment in

602
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 4: time right now, but also as things progress.

603
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 3: What can be helpful is that if you've got essential

604
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 3: theme that.

605
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 4: Feels really, really good, and this is where I believe

606
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 4: that there's a co creation that goes on. There's natural

607
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 4: gifts that you're imbued with, there's also your conscious choice

608
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 4: that you have, and generally you'll find yourself doing something.

609
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 4: If you're feeling very, very purposeful, you will find yourself

610
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 4: doing something that is aligned with your natural gifts, which

611
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 4: you had no choice in, but also feels intellectually and

612
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 4: philosophically right to you. And there's a co creation of

613
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 4: your nature and your nurture at the same time. And

614
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 4: to the point of the multiple purposes that you think about,

615
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 4: if we're trying to find that physiology of attention with

616
00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 4: calm and low stress, if you are at home and

617
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 4: trying to work and you've got five kids running around

618
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 4: that desperately want your attention and you also want to

619
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 4: be a great parent and an attentive parent, working at

620
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 4: home is incredibly stressful and it's not productive. You're not

621
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 4: going to be in flow your purpose right then and there,

622
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 4: you're not fulfilling.

623
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 3: It by.

624
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 4: Attending to your children, and that takes that tension away,

625
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,479
Speaker 4: that leans into obviously something that you've co created that

626
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 4: exists these children, and also your natural want to be

627
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 4: there and the.

628
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 3: Hormones that are related to that as well.

629
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 4: By you attending to your children and you know, lifting

630
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 4: them up and creating a great foundation for them of love,

631
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 4: whatever it might be in that moment, that's incredibly purposeful,

632
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 4: and your body will show that in its physiology.

633
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 3: I actually feel better.

634
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 4: Looking after my kids than I do trying to be

635
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 4: distracted looking after them doing work. Whereas when you go

636
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 4: to work, you know you're not running around padding people

637
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,239
Speaker 4: on the back, I mean you could or you know,

638
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 4: giving kisses and telling them much you love. Like you

639
00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 4: want to get into your office or you want to

640
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 4: get into your space, and you want to be as

641
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 4: productive and as useful as possible and moving towards the

642
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 4: outcomes that you're looking for in your job. In that

643
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 4: your immediate purpose in that moment is not your kids.

644
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 4: In fact, your kids will be a distraction once again

645
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 4: and work is now the priority. If you go to

646
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 4: the beach, you know your purpose shifts once again.

647
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 3: And I guess there's a the way that I like

648
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 3: to think of it.

649
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 4: And again this is in part stuff that I've read

650
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 4: and in part of the things that I agree with,

651
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 4: and that is goals in cement plans, in sands's if

652
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 4: you get a sense, a persistent sense of the type

653
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 4: of thing that you want to show up for, and

654
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 4: normally it's quite broad like for me, I want to

655
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 4: inspire elevation. I want people to know themselves better and

656
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 4: live their potential.

657
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 3: And so that is my central theme, which has changed

658
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 3: a few.

659
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 4: Times over the years, and as I've grown and as

660
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 4: I've developed and understood more, and then I'm acting on

661
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 4: that purpose in a different way with my kids, in

662
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 4: a different way with my work, and I'm not perfect

663
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 4: with it, of course, but in a different way with

664
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 4: my team, in a different way with our clients. It's

665
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 4: the way that I show up is constantly changing, but

666
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 4: it has a central theme, a central governing sense that

667
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 4: allows me to have a north star. And so everybody's

668
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 4: going to have a different interpretation of that. But even

669
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 4: just probably a huge thing that I'm a thing that

670
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 4: I'm finding is so relieving to people is that your

671
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 4: your purpose is allowed to change, so you might have

672
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 4: a purpose that's our data, they're not inspiring you anymore,

673
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 4: and you might just be sticking to it, thinking this

674
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 4: is what I've got to do, when in fact you

675
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 4: have aged, you have grown, you have seen different things.

676
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 4: There are more things that are present in your life now,

677
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 4: and as a result, your purpose must change in order

678
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 4: for you to get that same sensation of I'm on

679
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 4: track and this is where one more thing, mate, I

680
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 4: know I'm going on.

681
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 3: But there is.

682
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 4: This idea that even if you don't like what I

683
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 4: love is the commonversation for people that don't believe that

684
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 4: there's a purpose, You don't need a purpose, or it's

685
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 4: not important, whatever it might be, and it actually doesn't matter.

686
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter what your beliefs are. If you have

687
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 4: the physiology of focus, calm, focus, with motivation, drive and

688
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 4: low stress levels, then you're on purpose and you'll also

689
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 4: it will also mean that you recover better overnight. And

690
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 4: I mean to make it simple, you'll live a longer

691
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 4: and happier life because your sleep will be better, your

692
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 4: digestion will be better, your recovery will be better because

693
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 4: you've got the physiology that's not as stressed. Whereas if

694
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 4: you're not on purpose and you only need to be

695
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 4: in a relationship that's a little bit misaligned to experience.

696
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 3: What this is.

697
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 4: If you're not on purpose, you don't sleep as well,

698
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 4: you don't eat as well, you don't move as well,

699
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 4: you don't recover as well. Things don't feel as easy,

700
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 4: things feel more tiring. And that is a way crap

701
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 4: a version of life. So whatever gets you into that space,

702
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 4: I feel like I was built for this moment that

703
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 4: if you can strive for that in whatever that looks like,

704
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 4: and it's different for everybody.

705
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 3: Something.

706
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 4: And I was sitting with some school teachers the other

707
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 4: day and we've done their biological assessment. One of them

708
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 4: hyper oxytocin sensitive, so everything is about socializing.

709
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 3: And another individual she was virtually the opposite to that,

710
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 3: very introverted, and we were talking about when of you

711
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 3: felt purposeful in the last little while, and the introverted.

712
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 4: Person says, I was reading my book and then I

713
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 4: did some coding by myself in a dark room by

714
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 4: about seven hours or for about seven hours, just really

715
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 4: enjoying my and just that intellectual stimulation of doing.

716
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 3: My own work.

717
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 4: And I was like, that's amazing, Like what an incredible flow.

718
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 4: She was describing the calm, focused, low strands. And then

719
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 4: the very super social person with the oxytocin variat got

720
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 4: in and she said, oh yeah, we were like playing games.

721
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 3: With the kids.

722
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 4: We were doing like a new game every five minutes,

723
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 4: Like all of the kids were going absolutely nuts making

724
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 4: all of this noise, and we were just in there

725
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 4: having a great time with them. I felt completely inflow.

726
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 4: I felt completely purposeful, like I was built for this moment.

727
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 4: And so just whatever that is to you. And this

728
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 4: is where you know, we now have a lot more

729
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 4: science that helps us understand this so that you can

730
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 4: navigate to the biology of this a lot faster. But

731
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 4: think about those times in your life where you have

732
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 4: been like I was made for this moment right here,

733
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 4: and they're a nice thing to reflect on, the stepping

734
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 4: stones to get to, well, what could be creating that

735
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 4: sensation for me right now? Because that right there is

736
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 4: that's life like, that is what we are here for.

737
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 4: That's what our capacity, our potential is here for.

738
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 3: To just feel.

739
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 4: Incredibly rewarded living the moment that we're in.

740
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: That's what it's all about.

741
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: You don't get excited about this stuff enough, you need

742
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: to put it up.

743
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 4: I'm just dragging myself outside.

744
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: You need hard you know, I was thinking about as

745
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 2: you were talking about, you know, how different we all

746
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 2: are and how we need different things and respond to

747
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 2: different or the same thing in different.

748
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: Ways, and blah blah blah.

749
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: Like a really good example of this, which I'm sure

750
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: you've experienced, this is as a speaker. Most people who

751
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 2: aren't speakers, which is most people you don't, you wouldn't

752
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: think much that you can be up saying something to

753
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: a group. And because I've done it so much and

754
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: I'm in front of so many groups, I've done it

755
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: for forty years and I've read rooms pretty I still

756
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: fuck up. I still have good and bad days, but

757
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 2: for the most part, it's somewhere between not bad and

758
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 2: pretty good most of the time. Right So, and I'm

759
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 2: very interactive and I'm way more fucking organic and freestyle

760
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 2: than most presenters. I don't have slides, I don't have graphs,

761
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 2: not that there's anything wrong with that. But what's interesting

762
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 2: is sometimes I look out and I could tell I

763
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 2: can go that dude fucking loves me, and that laid

764
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 2: your next team fucking hates me, and that one next

765
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: day she thinks I'm hilarious. The next one's confused, you know,

766
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: And you can just tell that on the same day,

767
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: in the same room, shit, the same guy with the

768
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: same intention, the same energy, sharing the same message. So

769
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: everyone's got the same inbound stimulus, right kind of. But

770
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 2: there are so many different experiences being had and you're like, yeah,

771
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: this is how it works, and I can almost I

772
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 2: can you know sometimes ago that lady up the back

773
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 2: of that dude, they're gonna they have a problem with me.

774
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 2: And then sometimes you'll just see him walking up to

775
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 2: you at the end and you're like, here we go,

776
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: here we go.

777
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: You know, it's okay.

778
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 2: It's like that's literally that's the reality, you know, that

779
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 2: is you are. It's like you you've got a team,

780
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: You've got staff. Like I don't know about you, but

781
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 2: for me, I employed hundreds and hundreds of people, and

782
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 2: there would be certain staff members God bless them. There

783
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 2: might be in a like a gym where I've got

784
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 2: forty staff, there might be three staff members that take

785
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 2: ninety percent of my energy and the other thirty seven

786
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 2: take ten. Yeah, and it's like that consistently, you know,

787
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: So that like when you were saying purpose changes and

788
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 2: I was thinking of a couple of other things.

789
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: Is that one.

790
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: It's okay, Like uncertainty is okay, Like we are so

791
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 2: addicted to We've got to know, we've got to be right,

792
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: We've got to be certain. Things have got to be

793
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 2: familiar things. I've got to be. No, it doesn't have

794
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 2: to be. Here's an idea, just try this. I don't know,

795
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 2: Like I don't know, and it's okay, what do you think?

796
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 2: I don't know because we feel so compelled to look

797
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: fucking smart. I've so many times going, look, I could

798
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: make something up, but I actually don't know.

799
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: So I'm just going to go with I don't know.

800
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: And also, here's another one. Here's a good et. I

801
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 1: was wrong, just fucked it up.

802
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 3: I was wrong. There was some strange combination of words.

803
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 3: You just mentioned what there was the three of them.

804
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 3: Iand I know, I know.

805
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 2: It's I know it's fucking weird, but you know, And

806
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 2: the thing is that I would be a moron, and

807
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: I would be the most arrogant man on earth to

808
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 2: think that I'm not currently getting things wrong, because I've

809
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 2: always got something wrong. Not all the things all the time, right,

810
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: but I have Yes, I've had some wins and I've

811
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 2: got some things right. But if I speak to the

812
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 2: guys doing a PhD and self awareness, if I'm not

813
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 2: saying right now, more than likely I'm getting several things

814
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: wrong in some way, and moving forward, I will continue

815
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 2: to fuck up. I'll also try to grow and learn

816
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 2: and evolve and serve people. But will I get things wrong?

817
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 2: Will I operate an ego? Will I fuck up?

818
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: Yes? I will like that. Just to me, that just

819
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: takes a bit of pressure.

820
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 4: Off totally and probably one of the best lessons that

821
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 4: a really powerful mentor gave to me. He's still my

822
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 4: chief mentor is. I don't know if I'll ever outgrown him. Actually,

823
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 4: he is an incredible man. He it's that when you

824
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 4: don't know, you will still feel something and you'll still

825
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 4: have thoughts on it, and you'll still have a belief

826
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 4: about something. And what's really helped is because we don't

827
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 4: truly know, Like even if you think you know, you

828
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 4: don't know, because anything could happen.

829
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,479
Speaker 3: There can be a sense of knowing in your body

830
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 3: if you allow.

831
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 4: And the way that he explained it was like if

832
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 4: you've got traffic lights that are saying go and stop

833
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 4: on some decisions, you'll have a couple of amber lights,

834
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 4: a green light and a hard red light, you know,

835
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 4: and then on other decisions you'll go, you know what,

836
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 4: everything's green on that I'm going to do it. And

837
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 4: that's been a really really powerful exercise for me to say, well,

838
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 4: I don't know what's ultimately going to happen, but if

839
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 4: I was, And it encourages you to actually tap into

840
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 4: an intuition, tap into your deeper feelings, tap into what

841
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 4: you might what might be best for you to say,

842
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 4: if I was to do this, do I feel aligned

843
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 4: with you know? Does it it doesn't make sense?

844
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 3: Yes? Does it feel good?

845
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 4: Yes?

846
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 3: Is it?

847
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 4: Do I think it's it's right for the people around me?

848
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 4: It's like green light, green light, green light.

849
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 3: Well, that that's good. That's as good as it gets,

850
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 3: like as far as knowing and confidence becomes. That is it?

851
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 3: But then what's so fascinating about that self awareness?

852
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 4: And we haven't touched on it just because it's pend

853
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 4: I mean, not for any particular reason. But you might

854
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 4: have a fear from your childhood or the last relationship

855
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 4: that you had that creates an amber or a red and.

856
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 3: This is where it's only in that quieter space.

857
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 4: It's only in that state of where where you feel connected,

858
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 4: where you feel loved, where you feel purposeful, that often

859
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 4: you can start to separate out what is fear from

860
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 4: before and what is actually real and you know it's

861
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 4: it's it's you can't undo trauma with additional stress. You've

862
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:14,959
Speaker 4: actually you've got to be in a space of love.

863
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 4: You've got to be in a space of calm. You've

864
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 4: got to be a space of connection.

865
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 3: And so.

866
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 4: I didn't expect to say this by the end of

867
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 4: this little paragraph, but this is the importance of having

868
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 4: a routine of where you're connecting with yourself, not to

869
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 4: fix a problem, not to necessarily be focused on your purpose,

870
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 4: but the ten minutes of deep breathing to understand your

871
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 4: internal world, to navigate what those those feelings are, so

872
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 4: that when you actually do need to call upon them,

873
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 4: you've got a familiarity. It's just mindfulness is just a muscle,

874
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 4: and that when it comes to purpose, it's this is

875
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 4: a feeling that is unique to you.

876
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: That is.

877
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 4: That that someone else can't instruct you to. It's got

878
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 4: to be something that you feel out for yourself. And

879
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 4: the pathway to that is actually connecting. This is what

880
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 4: I'm because there is a vast lack of this education

881
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 4: in schools right now, and it's this this term I'm

882
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 4: actually really really We're going to be building in mindful

883
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 4: routines into part of the research progra that we're doing,

884
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 4: so five year old kids will have their personalized mindfulness

885
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 4: routine before they start school. But that this is the

886
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 4: this is where it needs to be because it's that

887
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 4: internal sense of knowing that you can have confidence and

888
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 4: you say, you know what, I don't know, but it

889
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 4: feels and thinks and looks like green lights, so let's see.

890
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 4: And then it's you know, it's the moving forward without

891
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 4: expectation of result, but just giving it your best and

892
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 4: seeing what happens.

893
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

894
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think I think for some people that

895
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: that vulnerability, that vulnerability of being okay with being wrong,

896
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: and especially when as we were talking about before with Ida,

897
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 2: especially when your identity is tied in with some a

898
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: certain thing being a certain way, then you find, you know,

899
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: like religious stuff is an easy example, just because you know,

900
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 2: I grew up or whatever, we grew up in this

901
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: theology or this doctrine or this philosophy, and we know

902
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 2: we are this or that you know, we are the

903
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: one true hotline to God or whatever the you know.

904
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: And when you take out the religion and the theology

905
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 2: and you just think about it from a cognitive point

906
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: of view or a metacognitive point of view, Oh, we

907
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: think this way. I think this way because Mum and

908
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 2: Dad think this way, and Uncle John and Arnie Marge

909
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 2: think this way, and the pastor thinks this and all

910
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: the people in my world think this way. So I

911
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 2: haven't actually been taught how to think. I've been told

912
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 2: what to think, and now I think that. And so

913
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 2: this when I get to the end of my programming,

914
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 2: and then I open a door into self awareness and consciousness,

915
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 2: Like this is the interesting Like where does my programming finish?

916
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 2: And where does my ability to think for purely for myself,

917
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 2: to think critically and whether or not what I think

918
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: aligns with those around me or not?

919
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: What do I think?

920
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 2: And it's very fucking difficult to overcome your programming for

921
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 2: all of us, me included. Right, I haven't been to

922
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: church essentially for forty years, but I grew up in

923
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 2: a very very churchy life, and so there's still psychologe

924
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying it was bad. It wasn't all

925
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 2: fucking terrible or anything, but there's this still there's this

926
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 2: residual where there are certain things that if I'm talking

927
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: about certain things a certain way, I feel this discomfort

928
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: or this guilt, and I'm like, oh, wow, that's interesting.

929
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: Forty years later, there's still shit I'm uncomfortable to say.

930
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 2: But just in case God smites me from the face

931
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 2: of the earth or something, you know, it's so interesting

932
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 2: to realize how much of that stuff lives on. Probably

933
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: you're going to tell me in ourselves, but it's fucking

934
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 2: and trying to trying to be I don't know if

935
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: the word is aware enough or courageous enough or curious

936
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:21,919
Speaker 2: enough to go, look, maybe a lot of what I think,

937
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: or some of what I think is flawed or.

938
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 1: You know, somewhat flawed.

939
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 2: It's an interesting door to open because it opens It's

940
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 2: very hard to be objective when you believe that, or

941
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 2: open minded when you believe that you are already right.

942
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 2: So therefore anyone who doesn't agree or align with my

943
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 2: version of right is wrong. So now I've made myself unteachable.

944
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 2: Now I'm living in confirmation bias. The echo chamber of Craig.

945
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, as you were. As you were talking there, I

946
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 4: was thinking about that.

947
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 3: Like to think of it.

948
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 4: The way that I've kind of or thought about this

949
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 4: and been supportive to think about this as well, is

950
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 4: the past experience that we have personally. I'll give an

951
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 4: example one person that's come through one of our health

952
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 4: professional courses, very fiery, direct type of individual, with very subdued, grounded,

953
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 4: steady parents and didn't realize that they'd been suppressing him

954
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 4: his whole life out of care and love, that we

955
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 4: need a grounded, quiet, calm, considered child because that's who

956
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 4: we are.

957
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 3: And then he has this complete realization moment, you.

958
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 4: Know, really only two years ago, by understanding his makeup

959
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 4: is actually fiery and freedom and taking chances and being impulsive,

960
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 4: and he's been living in this conflict and it's just

961
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 4: been building up and creating an incredible amount of stress

962
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 4: in his system. And the release of that was absolutely

963
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 4: crazy like, and the mid life crisis almost that followed

964
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 4: because it's like, well, I don't have the things that

965
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 4: I felt safe with anymore. Now I've actually I understand

966
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 4: myself and with that freedom comes a whole lot of

967
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 4: unknown and I'm not used to this new muscle that

968
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 4: I have, so that first the first thing is just

969
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 4: the most loving, well intended people. If they don't understand

970
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 4: your differences, they can be completely different to you, and

971
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 4: they projected onto you.

972
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 3: And this is what happens with kids.

973
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 4: And this is what's so exciting about working with schools,

974
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 4: and that is we are telling them to like, this

975
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 4: is this child, and when they explode, it needs to

976
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 4: in an indirect way, needs to be validated and celebrated

977
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 4: as to why they did that, rather than just you

978
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 4: are the wrong child and you've done the wrong thing

979
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 4: whatever it might be, which then creates this conflict in

980
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 4: them of like, oh, I did this thing that felt

981
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 4: natural to me.

982
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 3: I've been told that that's wrong. She's what's wrong with me?

983
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 4: Like this is the story that gets created rather being

984
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 4: around people that allow you to just that proactively encourage

985
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 4: you to be yourself. So I know that you are

986
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 4: a really quiet person.

987
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 3: Like my mum.

988
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 4: She's the introvert of introverts, and it's like, hey mum,

989
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 4: go take some time by yourself.

990
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 3: Hey mom, Like, go and have a lie theut.

991
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 4: Hey mom, go and get into a dark room where

992
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 4: you can just dull your senses down.

993
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 3: Like being encouraged to be yourself. There's another my niece

994
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,720
Speaker 3: actually over over the weekend.

995
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 4: She just talks so much and so fast, and her

996
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 4: thinking is brilliant. She's really really sharp. She thinks about

997
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 4: things in the right way, but the way that she

998
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 4: says it really grinds on a number of family members

999
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 4: and just to tell her, Hey, what you're thinking is

1000
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 4: exactly right, and it's actually amazing what comes out of

1001
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 4: your mouth, because most of the time at school she's

1002
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 4: been told her you got to be quiet, like no

1003
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 4: one wants to hear right now, and so old. It's eleven,

1004
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 4: she's eleven, and so she's building this story of geez,

1005
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 4: I'm rambling, Like if someone lets her actually talk, she'll say, oh,

1006
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 4: I'm rambling now. I said no, no, no, this is good.

1007
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 4: But she's so used to being stifled. And so it's

1008
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 4: what would it be like? And it might seem even

1009
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 4: unrealistic for you to celebrate and support children that are

1010
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 4: acting poorly, for example, it might feel like unrealistic to

1011
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 4: do that. But what I would like everybody to reflect

1012
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 4: on is what would it feel like if or who

1013
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 4: is that person who just loves me? No matter what,

1014
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 4: I can just be the whatever kind of person that

1015
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 4: I want to be, and no matter what, they go, Oh,

1016
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 4: you're such a legend. Let's go get another champagne. Let's

1017
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 4: just this is just the best. I love when you

1018
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 4: get all fired up.

1019
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 3: This is the best.

1020
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: You know.

1021
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, they are assholes. I totally agree with you.

1022
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 3: Give me a gimme a five.

1023
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 4: Whatever it might be, What is it like to be

1024
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 4: around that person, to have that level of support in

1025
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 4: who you are? And that's essentially everything that we're trying

1026
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:15,919
Speaker 4: to do is help people be more informed about who

1027
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 4: you are, why you do the things that you might be,

1028
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 4: and how can I provide you the most amount of

1029
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 4: celebration just for being you. I don't know where I

1030
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 4: started all of this or where this began, but it's

1031
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 4: definitely like a really key message that we're driving into

1032
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 4: the world at the moment, and that is who you

1033
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 4: are is exactly right. And if you've got people around

1034
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 4: you that allow you to be you, it's amazing how

1035
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 4: you course correct naturally just because you're calmer and you

1036
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 4: coming out of stress and you're resolving things that may

1037
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 4: have happened in the past by being surrounded by that

1038
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 4: love as well. So this whole idea about identity and

1039
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 4: supporting people to be themselves, giving them the space to

1040
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 4: then find their purpose and use their natural strength.

1041
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,280
Speaker 3: That's what it's all about.

1042
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: But we've come full circle. I love it. I love it.

1043
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've heard of a book called

1044
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: called Bad Therapy.

1045
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 2: No. So, there's a lady called Abigail Shreier, I think

1046
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 2: that's her name. She wrote a book called Bad Therapy.

1047
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 2: Lots and lots of research, interviewed hundreds and hundreds of

1048
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 2: therapists and psychs.

1049
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: And blah blah blah blah blah.

1050
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 2: Anyway, that the takeaway from the book, the key takeaway

1051
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 2: is that for some people, talk therapy is brilliant, and

1052
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 2: for some people it's catastrophic. It's like everyone thinks that

1053
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 2: I am going to a psychologist or a therapist and

1054
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 2: talking about your shit. At the very least it will

1055
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,479
Speaker 2: help a bit. And one of the outcomes of the book,

1056
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 2: or one of the revelations the book, is that no, actually,

1057
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 2: for some people rocking up every Tuesday a bough at

1058
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 2: three o'clock and talking about that thing that happened five

1059
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 2: years ago, it actually makes you worse because you just

1060
00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 2: open the door on that trauma and you just get

1061
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 2: back into that and it takes them three four days

1062
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 2: to recover from a session, and they're not actually overall

1063
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 2: going forwards, they're going backwards. Which is not to say,

1064
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 2: don't misinterpret me, folks that talk therapy is bad, but

1065
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 2: for some people it ain't the answer. And I think

1066
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 2: this is back to our original thing is like something

1067
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 2: works for everyone, but not everything works for everyone. You know,

1068
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 2: find you something you know.

1069
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 4: One hundred percent. And some of the work that a

1070
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 4: couple of our psychics are doing in the moment is

1071
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 4: what kind of talk therapy is going to be best,

1072
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 4: because some individuals, even if they've gone really bad, need

1073
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 4: to be complimented, even if there've been an absolute asshole.

1074
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 4: They need to be told how great they are, and

1075
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 4: then that makes them come back into balance, whereas sitting

1076
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 4: in the criticism and getting their ego bashed makes them worse,

1077
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 4: makes them angry, makes them more frustrated, make some more

1078
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 4: shut down.

1079
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 3: But actually the therapy for them is just being told

1080
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 3: how great they are.

1081
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 4: Jeez, I love how you've thought about that. And let's

1082
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 4: let's think to the future. What are the things that

1083
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 4: we're going to approach in the future that we're going.

1084
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 3: To really make great. Let's not worry about the past

1085
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 3: at all. Let's actually just focus on the future.

1086
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 4: As other people really learn so much from going back

1087
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 4: into their past and they can process it and digest it.

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Speaker 1: So I hear you.

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Speaker 4: Completely and even you know, some more enlightened sychs actually

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00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 4: go out and they do walking talkies where they know

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Speaker 4: they've got somebody who's more mindful or more more mobile,

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Speaker 4: and they love the idea of moving, and so they

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Speaker 4: get them to move their body while they're talking. And

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Speaker 4: it's interesting. My son is exactly that. He's a talker

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Speaker 4: and a walker. And if we're sitting in a car,

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Speaker 4: I'll say, hey, mate, let's talk about that, because I

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00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 4: know that it's important for him to talk about stuff.

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Speaker 3: To get off his chest.

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Speaker 4: Otherwise he broods on it and he does feel better.

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Speaker 4: If we're going for a walk, he'll start naturally talking wow.

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Speaker 4: But it's sitting still, it doesn't do it. And there's

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Speaker 4: some individuals with their brain are more geared to they

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00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 4: process all information through their movement center and so they

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00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 4: take in information and then they want to move and

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00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 4: if they're having to then sit still. It's just like

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Speaker 4: stifling their response to things, whereas other individuals to move

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Speaker 4: and walk at the to move and talk at the

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Speaker 4: same time as a complete distraction. So I hear you

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Speaker 4: completely and the depths of that are absolutely fascinating.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, it's it's been a wonderful talk with you.

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Speaker 1: I mate, I think you're getting better. I think you're

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Speaker 1: fucking getting better as you get older.

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Speaker 4: You've got to give you enough time. It's eighteen months

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Speaker 4: to get some new material, that's all.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I know.

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Speaker 2: We've definitely got to get you back quicker than that.

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Speaker 2: Or if you're available, tel point our listeners to your

1118
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Speaker 2: resources and yeah, let them know how they can connect

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Speaker 2: with you and get involved.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 4: So a part of the Shay Group and the Shay

1122
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Speaker 4: Group we're an organization. They're looking to eliminate chronic disease

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Speaker 4: and pain by twenty fifty and support everybody to live

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Speaker 4: in their best be recognized as that and contribute to

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Speaker 4: the collective good.

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Speaker 3: That's our vision and our mission.

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Speaker 4: We've got training for health professionals in the most advanced

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Speaker 4: precision health and medicine that's available, using the most advanced

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Speaker 4: technologies in that space. This is obviously the more psychological

1130
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Speaker 4: conscious component of that for more psychologically driven individuals, but

1131
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Speaker 4: it all happens in the health professional space. We have

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Speaker 4: corporate well being where we can talk about these principles

1133
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 4: and health and well being at work.

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Speaker 3: We are obviously working with schools to support.

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Speaker 4: Them with their learning, and we're doing a whole lot

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Speaker 4: of research in this space of precision and personalized health

1137
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Speaker 4: as well. If you're interested in doing your own biological assessment,

1138
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Speaker 4: the app's called Shay and essentially the link is Shay

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Speaker 4: dot group, sa A dot group, forward slash, dr doctor Dash,

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Speaker 4: cam dash McDonald like the Hamburger mc d O n

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Speaker 4: A l D, and you'll get all the links that

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Speaker 4: you need on that website right there.

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Speaker 1: Mate. You're so good at this.

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Speaker 2: Genuinely, I really appreciate you. I don't know why it's

1145
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 2: been so long, but thanks for coming to play on

1146
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 2: the You project. Good luck with everything you're doing, and

1147
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 2: thanks for all the good stuff you put into the world.

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Speaker 3: The nonor to be here harps, thanks for having me