1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: The Crown and Anchor Hotel will be saved from demolition. 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Several thousand people marched through the city along with a 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: band on the back of the truck yesterday to State Parliament, 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: where the Premier, Peter Malanowskis announced new legislation to strengthen 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: protections for live music venues as well as the Cranker. 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: They've reached a compromise, the Premier says, with the developer 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: on what should happen on the site. This is a 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: little bit of the premiere this morning, as was on 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: five Double A News. As well. 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: Things through a special purpose piece of legislation they wouldn't 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: otherwise get quickly. That is, the heart of the building 12 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: is going up, so a smaller footprint, so the cranker 13 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 2: can be saved in exchange for height, so it's going 14 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 2: up to twenty nine stories instead of nineteen. We're also 15 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: going to make sure that they get their approvals quickly 16 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 2: and they have confidence and certainty around the State Heritage 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: listing process. 18 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: Now, the question that sort of is starkout of all 19 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: of that, I reckon is what does this mean for 20 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: developments moving forward? Now, Okay, this is to do with 21 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: live music venues so it is limited to pubs and 22 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: clubs with bands, But does it create an era of 23 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: uncertainty or an era of uncertainty for developers in the 24 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 1: next little while Britce JTA SA, Executive Director, Property Council 25 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: of Australia joins me in our Bruce good morning. 26 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 3: Well Matthew, all right, thank you, So how do you 27 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: view this? 28 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 4: Look, if we're to believe what the Premier has said, 29 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 4: this is a unique circumstance and a unique outcome. It 30 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 4: won't be the norm or set of precedent going forward. 31 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 4: But you know how many future unique circumstances might there be? 32 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 4: Is it a blueprint for communities to protest or march 33 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 4: on the steps of Parliament House in order to get 34 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 4: different outcomes? What does it mean for a SCAP? I 35 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 4: mean it does show that the Premier is a talented 36 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 4: broker and negotiator, but it also highlights that SCAP doesn't 37 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 4: have the flexibility to broken such successful outcomes on a 38 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 4: regular basis. Oftentimes you see developments being denied. One needs 39 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 4: to wonder is there a better way to consult with 40 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 4: interested stakeholders or those are party to the deal to 41 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 4: get an outcome that everyone's happy with so the premiers 42 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 4: managed to achieve it. With the Cranker, he also spoke about, 43 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 4: you know, fast tracks, approval, certainty in what they're able 44 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 4: to deliver. I mean, this is what developers ask. 45 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: For all the time. 46 00:02:53,320 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 4: Faster approvals, less uncertainty, increase certainty. This is what's required 47 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 4: to get developments out of the ground, to make dwellings 48 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 4: more affordable. If we want to talk housing, Why can 49 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 4: this not be replicated throughout the state? To be honest, 50 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 4: maybe SCAP needs to be tweaked a little bit. 51 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: So reforms to and SCAP being the State Commission Assessment Panel, 52 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: Reforms to SCAP in that regard. 53 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 4: Well, it should be looked at. I mean, if this 54 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 4: is such a great outcome and all the parties are happy, 55 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 4: wouldn't it be great to replicate this across the state 56 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 4: on future developments. I mean if SCAP's incapable of doing 57 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 4: that because they don't have the flexibility or the powers 58 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 4: obviously that the Premier has executed. Of course, we're interested 59 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 4: in what this legislation is going to look like and 60 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 4: what that's going to mean for any development near live 61 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 4: music venues going forward. But you know, I think if 62 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 4: you see a blueprint that's work that works, and if 63 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 4: and if the government believes in this approach, maybe you 64 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 4: do need to look at giving scap a bit more 65 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 4: power slash flexibility or whatever the premier use to get 66 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 4: this deal over over the line. 67 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: Now extra flaws and this is student accommodation, but caps 68 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: on migration may well potentially not see it filling up. 69 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 4: No, I think. I think when you're looking at the 70 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 4: promise of what emerged University will do for the state, 71 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:39,799 Speaker 4: you know we're going to need a lot more student 72 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 4: accommodation and having a lot more student accommodation will will 73 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 4: minimize the competition that is in the private rental market. 74 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 4: We know we've got the lowest vacancy rate in the country. 75 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 4: I think it's sitting at about zero point eight percent. 76 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 4: I mean, you do not want to be someone who's 77 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,119 Speaker 4: lease is come up or is looking for a place 78 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 4: to live. And especially when you take into consideration the 79 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 4: number of major projects that are really about to get 80 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 4: going in this state. We need all the accommodation, from 81 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 4: student accommodation to the houses, to apartments, the retirement villagers. 82 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 4: We need everything we. 83 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 3: Can get, all right, will come up asking developers to 84 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: put in noise protection for music venues, and this will 85 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 3: be part of the legislation moving forward. 86 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: As I understand, is that a fair imposition. 87 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 4: Look, there's two ways to look at it. One might 88 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 4: one might think that, you know, obviously, if there's a 89 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 4: live music venue, which by the way, isn't enshrined in 90 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 4: this legislation, that could turn into a cafe one day 91 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 4: or into a different use. Right, So it's not that 92 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 4: it's forever going to to be live music, so that 93 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 4: could change. I mean sound attenuation and soundproofing. That's obviously 94 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 4: another increased cost. We talk about affordability. It seems that 95 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 4: developers are asked to foot the bill for increased costs 96 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 4: continuously and whilst they're trying to deliver a more affordable product. 97 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 4: So looks that's going to be an impost. Understanding is 98 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 4: the legislation will actually list which hubs or live music 99 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 4: venues that this applies to. So understanding is it's going 100 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 4: to be pretty tight and very specific, and we've thought 101 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 4: center legislation once it passed through cabinet. 102 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: Bruce, appreciate your time this morning, Thank you, thank you, Bruce. 103 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: You take there. Who is the essay? Executive Director Property 104 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: Council of Australia,