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Speaker 1: This is the Fitting and He with Kate Richie podcast The.

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Speaker 2: Absolute Worst Stories of Cheating.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm really keen to hear that.

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Speaker 2: I've got permission off a mate to talk about this,

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Speaker 2: but I've had to change names. So let's say his

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Speaker 2: name is Garrett from Easton, Garrett from Eastern Creeka.

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Speaker 3: Is his name Garrett?

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Speaker 2: No it's not. But he's given me permission to talk

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Speaker 2: about this. Married, two kids, garrettys. GARRETTYS rings me the

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Speaker 2: other night emotional. I've split with my wife when on

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Speaker 2: a family holiday to the Mau Dives together. Not cheap, congratulations,

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Speaker 2: very expensive.

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Speaker 3: When did they go?

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Speaker 2: This was at the end of last year.

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Speaker 3: You want me to stop asking questions?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. Okay, I can't believe this. His wife

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Speaker 2: is a scuba diver, all right, love scuba diving. That's

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Speaker 2: one of the main reasons they went to the Mau Dives.

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Speaker 2: On the first day, she said she's booked herself into

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Speaker 2: scuba dive. She goes out for the whole day. He

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Speaker 2: looks after the kids, and she comes home and she goes,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, an amazing experience. The water is so clear.

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Speaker 2: I saw so many so much sea life down there

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Speaker 2: it's unbelievable, convinces her husband. Can I then book in

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Speaker 2: another two sessions on this week one week holiday because

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Speaker 2: I loved it so much? And he said, you know what, honey,

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Speaker 2: you love this. I'll look after the kids. You go

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Speaker 2: for another two days.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of school are on one week.

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Speaker 2: On the final this was the final day before they left,

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Speaker 2: she's out scuba diving and he decides to go to

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Speaker 2: the diving off office at the resort to see what

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Speaker 2: time she's coming back, So he gets there early. He

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Speaker 2: walks into the office and he walks in on her

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Speaker 2: with the diving instructor.

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Speaker 1: What movie is that? There's a movie where that happens.

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Speaker 2: While he's looking after He's two.

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Speaker 4: Kids, and he's been considerate to go and find out

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Speaker 4: what time she's back because poss he's booking their final

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Speaker 4: night dinner by the pool.

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Speaker 2: She breaks down, cries her eyes out, runs back, runs

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Speaker 2: after him back to the room. He said, we are

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Speaker 2: going on whether they're going home the next day? He said,

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Speaker 2: I'm going home. Don't talk to me. I can't do this.

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Speaker 2: She then breaks down and says to him, after knowing

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Speaker 2: this guy for three days, I think I love this guy?

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Speaker 2: What after three days?

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Speaker 3: Is this a real life story? This happened at the

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Speaker 3: end of last year.

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Speaker 2: This is a real life story. Did she he mean?

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Speaker 2: Has to? He said, fits. I then had to on

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Speaker 2: the plane. I had to sit with her with the kids,

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Speaker 2: knowing that I'm going to be packing up and I'm

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Speaker 2: going to stay somewhere else when I get home. It's

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Speaker 2: all kids. Oh god, there they'd be like six and four.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so they're little, They're unaware relatively, and.

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Speaker 2: I just thought, is that not what's going through?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 1: It would have been hard to understand too, because I

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Speaker 1: assume it went something like I'm leaving you, I'm in

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Speaker 1: love with another God ask smalk. Your tears would have

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Speaker 1: been filling up the mask at the time.

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Speaker 2: And so she's gone diving on the first day, maybe

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Speaker 2: the second day, but the third day they didn't even

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Speaker 2: go diving. He's walked into the diving office early to

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Speaker 2: find out when they're coming back, and she was in

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Speaker 2: there with him all day.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So this, okay, how does it happen?

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Speaker 3: How does that happen?

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Speaker 4: How do you fall head over heels in love with

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Speaker 4: someone within a very short period of time? On a

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Speaker 4: family holiday, a holiday that everybody's been looking forward to.

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Speaker 4: When you know that your partner and your two children

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Speaker 4: are just up the walkway.

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Speaker 1: These moments scare me. These moments scare me because they

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Speaker 1: threaten what you know as a normal relationship. Because Richie,

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Speaker 1: the question is go on. It's hard to say she

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Speaker 1: doesn't like diving, but she may take up scubat. I'm

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Speaker 4: That Kate she can learn to love anything he loves.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's true, depending on how they want. Kate. Here's

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Speaker 1: the thing. Do you suggest that this relationship is in

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Speaker 1: trouble already? Of course it is, so there's a breakdown

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Speaker 1: in the relationship, and then you just needed that trigger

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Speaker 1: to drag her away from it, which became the scuba instructor.

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Speaker 1: Do you think this is a happy marriage but the

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Speaker 1: power that this guy had over her is something that

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Speaker 1: could happen to anybody.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think anything about it is And I mean,

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Speaker 4: this is very hard for me to comment on if

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Speaker 4: it's because this is a friend of yours, so and

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Speaker 4: I don't know this bloke, and I'm sure his heart broken,

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Speaker 4: but I would imagine if you go on holidays and

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Speaker 4: within three days. You're saying you're completely in love with

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Speaker 4: someone else and you've spent a day in the office

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Speaker 4: with him while you families up the road.

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Speaker 3: There, it's not not all is well.

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Speaker 4: No, you're already out of the relationship in your head

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Speaker 4: and you're really looking for something.

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Speaker 2: Surely, we've got a call from Annie in Hirstfielle. We're

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Speaker 2: talking about the worst stories of cheating. What do you

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Speaker 2: got for us? Annie?

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Speaker 6: Hey, good morning. Yeah. So while I was married, we

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Speaker 6: were living in bank Arkam. I now his husband used

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Speaker 6: to go to the Philippines on business and usual thing

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Speaker 6: or few went on a business trip and then I

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Speaker 6: get a pocket dole and I'm thinking, oh, it's six

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Speaker 6: him in the morning, you know what's going on. And

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Speaker 6: he's in a taxi with one of his mates and

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Speaker 6: he says, hey, mates, shall we get more VIAGRAA oh my?

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Speaker 7: I said.

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Speaker 6: Hello, and he went oh, and then the phone went dead.

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Speaker 6: So that's pretty much confirmed what I always knew. But

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Speaker 6: it was there, you know, And then you try to

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Speaker 6: deny it emphatically denied the schedule number.

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Speaker 1: What was the excuse though, when I mean, you must

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Speaker 1: have said I heard you talking about viagra?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, no, he says, no, that wasn't me. I said,

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Speaker 6: but how can they not be you? It's your number,

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Speaker 6: it's your number.

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Speaker 2: You're ringing me?

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Speaker 6: Did he you've pocketed? Ould me? So it's almost like

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Speaker 6: the universe saying, all right, goody girl, time to get

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Speaker 6: a move on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you need this information. Did he resort to telling

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Speaker 4: you that he was, in fact having a hot love

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Speaker 4: affair with his friends, that he was in the.

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Speaker 2: Back of the uber with no there was a guy

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Speaker 2: thring you know, So didn't you find out any any

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Speaker 2: Did you find out? Yes?

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Speaker 6: I do, eventually admitted it, because then everything else started

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Speaker 6: coming out as well. You know, when you're standing up

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Speaker 6: against a picture and you start stepping back, you suddenly

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so yeah, that was just one of multiple, multiple indiscretions.

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Speaker 8: Oh and like I said, universe said, Harry, I'm going

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Speaker 8: to put this right up against your nose so that

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Speaker 2: Up right fatin He's given us a call from Bankstown.

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Speaker 2: What happened to you? Forturny?

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Speaker 5: Basically I was seven months pregnant on my second child

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Speaker 5: and he used to work overseas sixth holiday Pacific Islands,

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Speaker 5: the project manager and came back and I was cleaning,

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Speaker 5: getting ready to wash his clothes, found a long piece

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Speaker 5: of hair which wasn't mine. Did some digging, opening up

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Speaker 5: his wallet, photo of another girl in.

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Speaker 2: His wallet in his wallet.

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Speaker 1: Took the photo, did you and said what's all this about?

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Speaker 1: Or how did it play?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was living at my parents' house waiting for

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Speaker 5: a property to be built, and basically said, what's this?

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Speaker 5: He was having an affair. I said, do you love

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Speaker 5: He goes, and I said, well, do you love me?

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Speaker 5: And he goes, I love you, but I'm not in

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Speaker 1: That's a cop out.

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Speaker 5: And then basically he said, oh, I don't know what

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Speaker 5: to do. Whether I should stay with you with the

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Speaker 5: kids are like sixteen eighteen and then leave you or

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Speaker 5: you know, oh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, contacts so cold?

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Speaker 2: So what you just booted him straight away? Forteen?

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Speaker 5: Well yeah, Well basically I said, well can you leave

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Speaker 5: because we live in more care she would have leave

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Speaker 5: the house. He basically made me move into and your

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Speaker 5: and my daughter.

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Speaker 1: Was, oh my god, Oh man, I hate to say it.

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Speaker 1: He's a shocker.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Ended up marrying the other, the other thirteen year

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Speaker 5: younger than him, younger than him.

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Speaker 2: Are they still together?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 5: They had three kids. She did the dirty on him

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Speaker 5: and he ended up raising the other three kids. Never

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Speaker 5: saw his first kids.

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Speaker 1: That stuff. What about your love life? Have you got

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Speaker 5: And I've been been a bit hard I had to

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Speaker 5: raise the kids.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, your priority is a different traffic for two,

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Speaker 4: you're a very strong woman.

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Speaker 2: For TEENA. Let's go to Caroline now from seven Hills.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about your boyfriend.

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Speaker 9: Oh hi, how are you?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: I was with my last boyfriend for about seven months,

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Speaker 9: which I thought was my boyfriend.

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Speaker 2: We spent the.

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Speaker 9: Saturday night together. The Monday morning he ghosted me. I

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Speaker 9: got him his Facebook and there he was introducing him

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Speaker 9: the love of his life and his new family to

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Speaker 9: the world. And I commented saying, but you're with me

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Speaker 9: on Saturday night, And the next minute a number seventh

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Speaker 9: femal was popped up saying that, yeah, he's been sleeping

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Speaker 9: with them for the last seven months as well. He's

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Speaker 9: a busy boy, Cara, y busy boy he was, And

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Speaker 9: I was like, yeah, the more we get talked him,

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Speaker 9: the more we found out, and he him just on

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Speaker 9: a dating site.

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Speaker 2: So how many did you find out all together? Did

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Speaker 2: he have on the side? Carli eight?

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Speaker 1: Oh what a stinker.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the.

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Speaker 3: Thing about me. They're just so and like blase about doing.

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Speaker 4: It's like if you're out there and you've got all

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Speaker 4: these people that you're hawking up with who actually think

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Speaker 4: you're in a relationship and then you're just willy nilly

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Speaker 4: posting about your family that you're in love with as well.

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Speaker 3: It's so entitled.

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Speaker 1: And what did he say when you confronted him?

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Speaker 9: Currently, Well, when I finally got to confront him, he

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Speaker 9: told me that, yeah, I deserve someone who actually loves me,

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Speaker 9: and that's what he said to everybody else.

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Speaker 3: And such a good guy. It's really thoughtful.

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Speaker 2: He's a man like that.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like it was just physical.

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Speaker 2: A Lacey in Paramount, I tell about your tell us

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Speaker 2: about your mum's friend.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Hey, so mom has this friend. Let's call her Annie. Right,

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Speaker 7: So Annie is happily married or was has three pretty

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Speaker 7: much adult kids. Right, Annie walked home one day to

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Speaker 3: What what the hell?

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Speaker 7: Who has been going on so close to three years?

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Speaker 2: Husband What was mum's excuse a Lise? What did mom

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Speaker 9: They were in love?

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Speaker 7: They loved each other and had Annie had to file

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Speaker 7: for bankruptcy? Like the whole thing kind of everything just

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Speaker 1: That will never happen with Lisa and her mum. That

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Speaker 3: It would be Lisa and your mom or your dad.

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Speaker 1: It's you hooking up with deb That's right. I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying now for the record, that would never happen. Lisa

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Speaker 1: will never come home and find Debraah and I involved

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Speaker 2: What about the other way? Could could there be a

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Speaker 2: chance that John and Lisa.

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Speaker 1: Highly unlikely the age of seventy five, I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: he's up for it.

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Speaker 4: Could you have would you have a little vomit? What

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Speaker 2: Are you who are you more disappointed with.

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Speaker 3: Your parent?

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Speaker 1: What would you say to Heather? What would to Heather?

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Speaker 1: You walk in and there in the kitchen?

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Speaker 4: Okay, can you stop because I know mum's in the

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Speaker 1: It's not what it looks like.

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Speaker 2: That's the first thing you would say to.

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Speaker 3: Heather, I'd say, should I put the kettle on?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: Can I tell you something? A maid of mine, a

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Speaker 1: maide of mine. Not long ago, he was at home

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Speaker 1: and the cleaner was there, and they started talking about intimacy.

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Speaker 1: The cleaner says, but it's been a while for me.

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Speaker 1: I really miss it. He says, it's been a while

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Speaker 1: for me as well. The next thing, you know, right

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Speaker 2: Is this was he in a relationship?

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Speaker 1: No, he is in a relationship. He's got about four

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Speaker 1: girls on the go. He's a bit of a shocker.

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Speaker 3: This is a friend of yours.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, And I just I'm always fascinated how these moments,

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Speaker 1: I woke up this morning and this was a regular day.

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Speaker 1: My wheepbeaks for breakfast, I read the paper, I checked

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Speaker 1: my email, and the next thing you know, I'm on

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Speaker 1: the lino in the kitchen getting it on with the clean.

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Speaker 3: Like interesting life. But that stuff isn't happening.

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Speaker 2: There's some man, there's stuff.

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Speaker 3: Going on out there, wold and crazy.

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Speaker 2: Put down the mister set out there, isn't there even that.

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Speaker 3: I think it's people looking for connection.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it is they're just bored.

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Speaker 4: No, I think people are desperate for connection and deeply, deeply, deeply.

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Speaker 3: Unhappy in their own lives.

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Speaker 4: And before you know it, you can't fake chemistry if

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Speaker 4: you're standing. How many people have got cleaners and they

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Speaker 4: never fancy them at all?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: No, I mean bum Bum's done a bit of work

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Speaker 1: at our place, so it was a cleaner. Her name's

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Speaker 1: bum Bum, and I've never ever looked at her and thought, well,

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Speaker 1: you've never touched bum bum whip? No, No, I haven't, Tom.

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Speaker 3: What does bum Bum do in your house?

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Speaker 2: Upstairs?

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Speaker 1: Downstairs?

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Speaker 2: Where is she from?

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Speaker 1: She is from Malaysia?

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Speaker 2: Did you okay?

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Speaker 4: Can boom boom and you just say?

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