WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 18 June

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<v Speaker 1>Leensander General manner. Welcome to the late Debains.

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<v Speaker 2>Good evening and welcome to the program. I'm Caleb Bond

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<v Speaker 2>with Listorer and kel richards Well. Could by claims contravene

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<v Speaker 2>human rights? One group of people in Sydney think so,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're taking it all the way to the Human

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<v Speaker 2>Rights Commission. More strength to their arm, I say, when

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<v Speaker 2>we get into the papers, Alan Joyce's sixteen million dollar

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<v Speaker 2>payout from Quantus could be in a bit of trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>And does social media need cigarette style warnings. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>about that a little bit later, but first in Victoria

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<v Speaker 2>today a new bill hit the Parliament to increase the

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<v Speaker 2>age of criminal responsibility. Currently it's ten years old and

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<v Speaker 2>they want to make at twelve. And you might ask

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<v Speaker 2>the question, well why is this. If you go through

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<v Speaker 2>the numbers the increases in youth crime in Victoria, it

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<v Speaker 2>becomes very clear, very quickly. Crime for those fourteen to

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen year olds went up thirty percent last year, ten

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<v Speaker 2>to thirteen went up twenty two and a half percent,

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<v Speaker 2>but staggeringly for ten and eleven year olds it went

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<v Speaker 2>up by sixty five percent. So the Victorian government thought, goodness, gracious, me.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got all this crime happening with ten and eleven

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<v Speaker 2>year olds. What can we do about it? I know

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<v Speaker 2>will make it impossible for ten and eleven year olds

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<v Speaker 2>to commit crimes, and therefore we'll have a one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>percent reduction in the youth crime rate. What a marvelous brainway,

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<v Speaker 2>who would have thought of that one? Here's the Attorney General,

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<v Speaker 2>Jacqueline Simes crowing about this today and how great it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be for Victorian kids.

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<v Speaker 1>If we want this to work.

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<v Speaker 3>We're proud of this legislation. We want to make sure

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<v Speaker 3>it gets through the Parliament. We're giving an ample opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>for people to have their say in relation to that.

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<v Speaker 3>But it will take potentially some time ver and I

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<v Speaker 3>bringing our toothbrushes when it's going to be in committee,

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<v Speaker 3>because there'll be lots of questions that we'll have to deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Premier Decina Allen also said that it would reduce youth

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<v Speaker 2>crime and yes, I guess that is correct. When you

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<v Speaker 2>can't charge children with crimes, they're not technically committing crimes,

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<v Speaker 2>are they, His opposition leader John Pursuito, hitting back, we'll.

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<v Speaker 4>Certainly look at the proposal from ten to twelve. But

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<v Speaker 4>our position has always been clear on twelve to fourteen

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<v Speaker 4>that it is too problematic and we're not going to

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<v Speaker 4>see the ethic of responsibility and the ethic of accountability

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<v Speaker 4>watered down to the point where the government's approach to

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<v Speaker 4>dealing with violent crime is to pretend it's not happening.

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<v Speaker 2>It's expected this will come into law early next year,

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<v Speaker 2>early twenty twenty five, and one of the other effects

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<v Speaker 2>of it is that they will change the presumption of

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<v Speaker 2>whether you're capable of committing a crime between the ages

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<v Speaker 2>of ten and fourteen years. So the presumption now, Liz,

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<v Speaker 2>will be that if you are ten to eleven, twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen or fourteen, it is presumed that you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>the capability to commit a crime, so the court will

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<v Speaker 2>have to prove that you understand what you are doing

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<v Speaker 2>is a crime. They increase the age of criminal responsibility

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<v Speaker 2>to twelve, so eventually you won't have to face any

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<v Speaker 2>charges whatsoever, and their ultimate dat is to get it

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<v Speaker 2>all the way up to fourteen, so anyone under the

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<v Speaker 2>age of fourteen will literally not be able to commit

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<v Speaker 2>a crime.

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<v Speaker 5>Staggering, staggering, So we're raising the age of criminality at

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<v Speaker 5>a time when serious offenders are getting younger and younger,

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<v Speaker 5>we're not addressing those underlying issues, and then the natural

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<v Speaker 5>outcome is that the community is more worried than ever

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<v Speaker 5>because they know they're at the mercy of these juveniles

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<v Speaker 5>who won't be punished properly. So why would these kids

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<v Speaker 5>then not continue to do what they're doing or indeed

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<v Speaker 5>become first offenders. What really got me about this was

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<v Speaker 5>the I think this is Latin, so I'm going to

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<v Speaker 5>butcher it, but the Dolly incapats principle will be written

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<v Speaker 5>into legislation, and that is that the presumption that a

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<v Speaker 5>child aged ten to fourteen is incapable of criminal intent.

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<v Speaker 6>Now we know that that is nonsense.

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<v Speaker 5>And every time this comes up, I just remember that terrible,

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<v Speaker 5>very famous case of nineteen ninety three where we had

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<v Speaker 5>two ten year olds in the UK.

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<v Speaker 6>Murder a two year old.

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<v Speaker 5>They abducted him, they tortured him, and they murdered him.

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<v Speaker 6>His name was James Bulger.

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<v Speaker 5>And these two ten year olds, it was shown in court,

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<v Speaker 5>they knew exactly what they were doing.

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<v Speaker 6>They knew that it was wrong. They did it anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>There is just no basis for an argument that kids

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<v Speaker 5>engaging in serious criminal activity were, Oh, we weren't aware

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<v Speaker 5>that this was criminal activity, or we weren't.

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<v Speaker 6>Aware that we should do it. We know that the

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<v Speaker 6>Act did this.

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<v Speaker 5>Last year they bumped up the age of criminal responsibility

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<v Speaker 5>to twelve, and in the next two years they intend to.

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<v Speaker 6>Make that fourteen.

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<v Speaker 5>It seems kell Act is often the first domino to

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<v Speaker 5>fall when it comes to terrible ideas.

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<v Speaker 7>Like the first domino to get it wrong. Let me

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<v Speaker 7>thrown a little fact to it. I did a big

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<v Speaker 7>research thing in all the psychology sites that I could

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<v Speaker 7>find in psychiatry sites, and there's a very wide agreement

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<v Speaker 7>that children know right from wrong from the age of seven.

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<v Speaker 7>So everything you're saying is absolutely right. There are four

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<v Speaker 7>points that they announced, CA we bring those up on

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<v Speaker 7>the screen. There are four points that they said are

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<v Speaker 7>going to be the part of the keys to this legislation.

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<v Speaker 7>Electronic monitoring was one of them, raising the age electronic monitoring,

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<v Speaker 7>legislating warnings and cautions.

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<v Speaker 1>Parole boards will alert victims of.

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<v Speaker 7>Things that are changing, and they're also lowering the age

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<v Speaker 7>which people can be charged with enticing kids commit crime.

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<v Speaker 7>But look at the third one. There legislated cautions. That's

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<v Speaker 7>the problem. That's what went wrong in Queensland. Because Anastasia

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<v Speaker 7>Palichet said they shouldn't be in the criminal system, do

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<v Speaker 7>not consider putting them in jail, and don't lock them up,

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<v Speaker 7>just give them a caution. They legislated for that, and

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<v Speaker 7>the kids very quickly worked out what was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's right.

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<v Speaker 7>They committed a crime, they happily went to court, they

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<v Speaker 7>got a caution, they didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Have any conviction recorded, and they went out and committed

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<v Speaker 1>another crime.

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<v Speaker 7>So so you do sound I've got to say for

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<v Speaker 7>a young man, like a middle aged cynic, sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, ag.

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<v Speaker 6>Agent.

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<v Speaker 1>So it is happening.

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<v Speaker 7>It's happening for the statistical reasons you talked about. But

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<v Speaker 7>more crime will happen on the streets, is the whole point.

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<v Speaker 7>Jasenda Allen said today, and I think I can quote

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<v Speaker 7>the ipsum of Erber. She said, kids should not be

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<v Speaker 7>in the criminal justice system. Yes they should. It's the

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<v Speaker 7>only way to get them off the street. Stop them

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<v Speaker 7>stealing cars. The cars will still be stolen, they just

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<v Speaker 7>won't be counted exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So you youth crime plummets because we just don't record it. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't exist as far as we're concerned, and they

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<v Speaker 2>took today. You know, the police will still have the

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<v Speaker 2>ability to round the kids up and take them to

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<v Speaker 2>the cop shop if we can't get hold of their parents.

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<v Speaker 2>But once they get them to the cop shop, they

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<v Speaker 2>can't do anything with them. They just call up social

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<v Speaker 2>services and ask them to come and take the kid away.

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<v Speaker 2>And the only force they can use to grab a

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<v Speaker 2>ten or eleven year old under these laws is to

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<v Speaker 2>just grab their arm and hope they come with them.

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<v Speaker 2>So the police will be powerless to do anything about

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<v Speaker 2>a ten or eleven year old, essentially the group where

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<v Speaker 2>crime went up by sixty five percent. Now I understand

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<v Speaker 2>that that means there are probably problems at home, and

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<v Speaker 2>there are problems at school, and they are serious and

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<v Speaker 2>they need to be dealt with. But you can't tell

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<v Speaker 2>me that simply raising the age of criminal responsibility actually

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<v Speaker 2>helps these kids.

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<v Speaker 5>No, it's about fudging the numbers. And there was signs

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<v Speaker 5>saying we really want this to work. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it hasn't worked anywhere else, but because we really want

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<v Speaker 5>it to work, I'm sure at will. No one can

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<v Speaker 5>give us any factual evidence that this is in any

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<v Speaker 5>way effective. All it does is fudge the numbers and

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<v Speaker 5>teach these kids like you say, Hell, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Go to court, I got a slap on the wrist.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a caution.

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<v Speaker 5>Can can we wonder why the rates of recidivism are

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<v Speaker 5>so high?

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<v Speaker 1>But we have a model.

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<v Speaker 7>We have a model because this is almost exactly what

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<v Speaker 7>Queensland tried. So it's almost as though they sat there

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<v Speaker 7>in the cabinet room said, is there a system for

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<v Speaker 7>dealing with the kids in the in law that will

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<v Speaker 7>not work and be absolutely terrible?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, Queensland made a mess of it. We will follow

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<v Speaker 7>their patterns. What a good idea that is.

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<v Speaker 2>Victoria is very good at just taking things and making

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<v Speaker 2>them worse, aren't they know? The comonwealth game.

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<v Speaker 6>They're very consistent on.

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<v Speaker 2>And on it goes. Speaking of which, if you are

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<v Speaker 2>a child at school, you probably shouldn't be watching it

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<v Speaker 2>this hour, Go to bed, little Johnny. But if your

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<v Speaker 2>parents you start and watch the Late Bake, you can

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<v Speaker 2>probably get a little bit. And if you were at school,

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<v Speaker 2>because we learned today that again in Victoria, the rules

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<v Speaker 2>that have been put in place, they're now compulsory for

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<v Speaker 2>the teaching of children in early education in Victoria spell

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<v Speaker 2>out exactly what they need to be told about diversity, equity, inclusion, etc.

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<v Speaker 2>And they've got to be taught about Aboriginal Torres Strait

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<v Speaker 2>Islander people. Now, can you believe it? In the document

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<v Speaker 2>that sets all of this out DEI, Diversity, equity and

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<v Speaker 2>inclusion is mentioned one hundred and forty nine times, one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and forty nine times, Aboriginal Torres Strait Islander and

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<v Speaker 2>reconciliation matters are mentioned ninety six times. How many times

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<v Speaker 2>do you reckon? The document mentions the words mother, father

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<v Speaker 2>or parent? Zero, big fat zero? Would you believe it?

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<v Speaker 2>The IPA did some work into this document and uncopitab Listen,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank god they've done it, because if it weren't for them,

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<v Speaker 2>we wouldn't know about. It's doctor Belladiabrera over at the IPA.

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<v Speaker 2>So these centers should be where children playing sand pits,

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<v Speaker 2>draw with crayons and have afternoon naps, not be inducted

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<v Speaker 2>into the cults of social justice, identity, politics and sustainability

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<v Speaker 2>by activist educators. Parents should be very concerned that the

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<v Speaker 2>Australian government supports young children that being support sorry, young

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<v Speaker 2>children being exposed to very adult themes such as gender, sexuality, race, culture,

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<v Speaker 2>and the environment, years before it's appropriate. The education system

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<v Speaker 2>is shifted away from the acquisition of knowledge towards activism

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<v Speaker 2>and social justice. Results have continued to slide compared to

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<v Speaker 2>other nations. And I think we've known for some time

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<v Speaker 2>that this is coming. But Kel, we're talking about early learners.

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<v Speaker 2>Were talking a three four year old. No, they don't

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<v Speaker 2>talk once about mum or dad. We got to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the environment and diversity in.

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<v Speaker 1>It and drag coeens and whatever else they bring.

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<v Speaker 7>Listen, I speak with the authority of a grandpa who's

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<v Speaker 7>got a little four year old, little six year old

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<v Speaker 7>toddlers and they're now in big school.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exciting.

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<v Speaker 7>But they've just come through this preschool area and end

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<v Speaker 7>of the preschool area. They have nursery rhymes and fairy tales,

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<v Speaker 7>and they build things with the big lego blocks, that's

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<v Speaker 7>what it's all about. And they play hide and seek

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<v Speaker 7>with Grandpa. They're little kids. They've got to be treated

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<v Speaker 7>like little kids. Now, the people who drew this up,

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<v Speaker 7>it's very clear what's happening here. They know that what

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<v Speaker 7>they're teaching is highly disputed. They know there's a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of the community that would not approve. A lot of

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<v Speaker 7>parents would not approve. They don't care. It shows absolute

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<v Speaker 7>contempt for parents. It's very arrogant thing to do, and

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<v Speaker 7>you've got to say why do they do it? And

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<v Speaker 7>someone explained to me once here's how it works.

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<v Speaker 2>Kill.

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<v Speaker 7>People on the political right think the left or wrong.

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<v Speaker 7>People on the political left think the right are evil.

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<v Speaker 7>So if you're conservative, they think you're evil and you

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<v Speaker 7>have to be subverted. So they have to take your

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<v Speaker 7>children and grandchildren away from you because you are so evil,

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<v Speaker 7>they've got to stop your influence.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the kind of.

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<v Speaker 7>Arrogance that is behind what's going on here. It's not

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<v Speaker 7>only educationally stupid. To teach these things to two and

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<v Speaker 7>three and four year olds educationally absolutely idiotic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's indefensible.

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<v Speaker 7>I'd call them halfwits, but that would be massively overestimating them.

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<v Speaker 7>They're more like quarterwits something like that, possibly one eighth.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's a stupid thing to do educationally, but they

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<v Speaker 7>are doing it deliberately and consciously because they really despise

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<v Speaker 7>everyone who doesn't agree with them.

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<v Speaker 5>Correct, and the raisure of parents, the very mention of

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<v Speaker 5>mother and father from this curriculum just underlines everything I've

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<v Speaker 5>always said about this.

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<v Speaker 6>Parents.

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<v Speaker 5>The state wants your job, and it's not asking for permission.

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<v Speaker 5>The state itself cannot have children. It takes yours. It

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<v Speaker 5>was Lenin who said, give us a child for a

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<v Speaker 5>years and he will be a Bolshevik forever.

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<v Speaker 6>It was Hitler who.

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<v Speaker 5>Said, he alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.

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<v Speaker 5>And it was Marx who said, as soon as a

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<v Speaker 5>child does not need the care of his mother anymore,

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<v Speaker 5>he should be educated in state institutions only.

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<v Speaker 6>This is how Marxist worked. Slowly, slowly.

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<v Speaker 5>You think you're sending your kid off for some education.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what we all send our kids to pre Kindy,

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<v Speaker 5>to learn motor skills, to learn how to associate with

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<v Speaker 5>other kids and get along nicely. No, no, the state

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<v Speaker 5>has a very different plan for your child's education.

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<v Speaker 6>And we've seen this going on four years.

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<v Speaker 5>You may remember this incident back in twenty twenty two

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<v Speaker 5>where a dad had gone to pick up his two

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<v Speaker 5>year old, sorry five year old from Kindi and found

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<v Speaker 5>the place plasted with all sorts of lgbtiq. I remember

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<v Speaker 5>him specifically talking about the pen sexual stuff. What is

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<v Speaker 5>a five year old got to do learning about pen

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<v Speaker 5>sexual for crying out loud, and he took great issue

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<v Speaker 5>with this, told the kindie that he was very unimpressed.

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<v Speaker 5>They called the cops on this guy for simply trying

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<v Speaker 5>to protect his five year old from this rabid kind

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<v Speaker 5>of indoctrination.

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<v Speaker 6>My mama always said she always.

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<v Speaker 5>Referred to state schools as cesspools, even when I was

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<v Speaker 5>too young to even know what a cesspool was, and

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<v Speaker 5>her saying was always you've got a brainwashing before somebody

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<v Speaker 5>else does, because kids are sponges, and so whoever teaches

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<v Speaker 5>them first teaches them best.

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<v Speaker 7>But I only know what they're told. They only know

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<v Speaker 7>what they're told at that age. You tell them the

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<v Speaker 7>wrong thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they know.

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<v Speaker 7>They say that really can definitely, at the age of three,

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<v Speaker 7>the only thing that should matter in their life his

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<v Speaker 7>toilet training. Nothing else should be important for them. You

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<v Speaker 7>know the huge triumph when they call out from the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 7>You have to go and see the pooh they did,

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<v Speaker 7>because it's a shavement. It is it exactly is that's

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<v Speaker 7>what matters for little lives. This is destroying little lives,

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<v Speaker 7>and it's destroying little lives. For really evil reasons. Jordan

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<v Speaker 7>Peterson published online an image that he found in a

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<v Speaker 7>preschool about having drag queens come and read to them

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<v Speaker 7>and all the different things that were happening there Dune

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<v Speaker 7>his Pride month.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't read it. The printer is feeling small.

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<v Speaker 7>But it's about you know about drag queens and are

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<v Speaker 7>there any drag kings? And in what way are people

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<v Speaker 7>in drag different from you little children. I mean, there

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<v Speaker 7>are a whole lot of adults who couldn't care less,

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<v Speaker 7>who don't want to know. But if adults want to

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<v Speaker 7>find out about drag queens and that communey, that's fine,

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<v Speaker 7>they're adults. But to foist something as marginal in society

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<v Speaker 7>and as unusual in society as that on tiny little

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<v Speaker 7>kids who will only be confused by it, that's wrong exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's happening all over the Western world. Run. It's

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<v Speaker 2>in Australia, it's in the US, it's in the UK.

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<v Speaker 5>And of course, which is why I am so suspicious

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<v Speaker 5>of the Albanesy government and the labor state governments all

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<v Speaker 5>pushing universal daycare.

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<v Speaker 6>So number one, mum, hand your.

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<v Speaker 5>Kids over to us, that we the state will raise them,

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<v Speaker 5>you get back to work, earning us more glorious tax dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>We don't care about anything else. And these kids go

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<v Speaker 5>into daycare younger and younger. Nowadays, the state knows exactly

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<v Speaker 5>what it's doing, being like, oh, look, how generous we are,

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<v Speaker 5>universal daycare for all. No, No, I think it's a

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<v Speaker 5>far more sinister thing that's at play here.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right.

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<v Speaker 7>If it were not the case, instead of subsidizing the

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<v Speaker 7>childcare centers, they'd say, here's the subsidy, We'll pay it

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<v Speaker 7>to the parents and either mom can stay at home

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<v Speaker 7>if he wants to, or dad could start at home

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<v Speaker 7>all they could send them off to a child center,

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<v Speaker 7>give them the money, they look after their kids. They

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<v Speaker 7>make the decisions. The fact that no government will do

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<v Speaker 7>that makes me suspected what you're saying is a absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct and I've advocated for that for a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>and just on the fact that it's happening around world.

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<v Speaker 2>Have listened to Nigel Fards talking about exactly this in

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<v Speaker 2>the UK.

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<v Speaker 8>I am just so sick to death of our youngsters

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<v Speaker 8>being told that we are a uniquely bad country because

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<v Speaker 8>we pursue slavery, as were the only country in.

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<v Speaker 1>History it was bad, right, that it was bad, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and every.

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<v Speaker 8>Other European country, and it's still happening in many parts

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<v Speaker 8>of the world today. But why not teach them as

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<v Speaker 8>well that we spent forty years with the Royal Naval

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<v Speaker 8>Squadron driving slavery off the high seas, and that the

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<v Speaker 8>British government spent more money stopping slavery than it ever

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<v Speaker 8>owned from it. Make sure kids get a sense of balance.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but of course we told them the truth lives.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they wouldn't be good little socialist work of these.

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<v Speaker 5>Indeed, and that is the point of the state school

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<v Speaker 5>system to be good little cogs in the will.

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<v Speaker 6>To Pizer now, because it looks.

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<v Speaker 5>Like judgment day is drawing at nigh, with the State

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<v Speaker 5>of Kansas taking them to court saying that their marketing

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<v Speaker 5>was misleading. He is the Kansas Governor explaining some of

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<v Speaker 5>the reasons why he's taking this drastic action.

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<v Speaker 9>Pfiser marketed its vaccine as safe for pregnant women. However,

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<v Speaker 9>in February of twenty twenty one, Pfizer possessed reports for

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<v Speaker 9>four hundred and fifty eight pregnant women who received Pfizer's

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<v Speaker 9>COVID nineteen vaccine during pregnancy. More than half of the

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<v Speaker 9>pregnant women reported an adverse event, and more than ten

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<v Speaker 9>percent reported a miscarriage, many within days of the vaccination.

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<v Speaker 9>Pfizer also possessed information from its own October twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 9>study on pre agency in rats indicating that it's COVID

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<v Speaker 9>nineteen vaccine was likely linked to infertility, loss of litters

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<v Speaker 9>and still born offspring.

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<v Speaker 6>So this is serious.

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<v Speaker 5>What is alleging is Phis New Phis, a New all

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<v Speaker 5>along in their own trials that this was going to

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<v Speaker 5>be problematic for pregnant women. He goes on to talk

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<v Speaker 5>about pericarditis, myocarditis, different heart issues linked to the Phiza vaccine.

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<v Speaker 6>This is going to be a very very interesting court case.

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<v Speaker 5>I know that I cannot wait for the discovery period

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<v Speaker 5>and what will come out in that period.

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<v Speaker 6>Piso has not wanted to give up details.

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<v Speaker 5>You may remember, I think it was the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 5>in the end who told them, no, no, you have

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<v Speaker 5>to hand over your findings and your research what went

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<v Speaker 5>into making this vaccine, and they gave it up very unwillingly.

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<v Speaker 5>But this is what the turn General I called him,

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<v Speaker 5>the governor is the Attorney General is one of five

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<v Speaker 5>states bringing these kinds of actions. Now it's really gaining

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<v Speaker 5>traction in the US as more and more side effects

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<v Speaker 5>have become just pretty darn off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet Texas, Texas is one of them as well. And

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<v Speaker 2>in both cases, Texas and this case has of course

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<v Speaker 2>claimed that there's nothing to see here, don't worrys, no

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<v Speaker 2>merit whatsoever. But but you know, there is mounting evidence

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<v Speaker 2>that we've talked about quite a bit on this program.

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<v Speaker 2>The recent study by a bunch of Dutch scientists twister

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<v Speaker 2>there investigating whether or not there could be a link

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<v Speaker 2>between excess mortality in vaccines and saying that that is

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<v Speaker 2>worthy of investigation.

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<v Speaker 5>Excess mortality that again we've seen has gone Western world.

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<v Speaker 5>This study did not get enough media except the one

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<v Speaker 5>place of deaven countries in their data.

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<v Speaker 7>Sweden, the country which did not go mad over over

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<v Speaker 7>COVID vaccines and all the mad COVID rules, has a

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<v Speaker 7>lower excess mortality rate than the rest of us. We

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<v Speaker 7>all got it wrong because there was this mad rush

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<v Speaker 7>to push these out and force them on and let's

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<v Speaker 7>broaden it, that's not just fireza Astraseneka withdrew their COVID vaccine.

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<v Speaker 1>And now flay.

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<v Speaker 2>We took it off the shelf last year and then

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<v Speaker 2>our astrosenica woke up and took it off the shelf

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<v Speaker 2>worldwide earlier this year.

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<v Speaker 7>In America, there is still a class action fifty one

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<v Speaker 7>people claiming ill effects from it, twelve of them saying

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<v Speaker 7>a relative died because of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So what was happening with this sort of mad, mad rush,

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<v Speaker 1>this mad panic and.

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<v Speaker 7>We must get this out there and get this into

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<v Speaker 7>everyone's arms is really really strange when we look back

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<v Speaker 7>at it now, there is not a apart from Sweden,

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<v Speaker 7>which I mentioned, there's not a government in the world

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<v Speaker 7>that got this right. There's no health authority in the

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<v Speaker 7>world that was careful enough to protect people. It's their job.

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<v Speaker 7>It's their job, that's what they're supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And in fact, last week in America, the Ninth

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<v Speaker 5>Circuit Court action ruled that because this was an mRNA vaccine,

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<v Speaker 5>it's not a vaccine.

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<v Speaker 6>So very very interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>This thing just seems to be unraveling at a rate

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<v Speaker 5>of knots now. And I for one, am just so

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<v Speaker 5>happy to get a big bowl of popcorn and hope.

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<v Speaker 6>Justice because most people took this under Duriss.

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<v Speaker 2>Most people took this under Duriss.

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<v Speaker 5>Indeed, that was the point of the mandate, and in fact,

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<v Speaker 5>transmission is something else. The Attorney General went into in

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<v Speaker 5>this brilliant speech he gave saying, well, FIZES actually admitted

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<v Speaker 5>they didn't even test for transmission. That wasn't the purpose

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<v Speaker 5>of the vaccine to begin with. And yet and that's

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<v Speaker 5>why he's getting them on this misleading marketing case because

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<v Speaker 5>he's like, you guys led us to believe that this

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<v Speaker 5>did something that it doesn't do, and unfortunately appears to

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<v Speaker 5>do that which you said it never would.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's how we were black mild.

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<v Speaker 7>You don't want to pass this on to grandma, do you,

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<v Speaker 7>because over eighty grandma will die, And you think, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 7>if it's going to stop transmission, i'd better have it.

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<v Speaker 7>But a lot of people, but my wife and I

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<v Speaker 7>got a couple of shots. But then we started reading

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<v Speaker 7>the very early information coming out about this, and we thought,

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<v Speaker 7>ah ah, there's something about this that's strange.

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<v Speaker 6>The m R in the r.

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<v Speaker 1>mRNA, thank you, they're here to help.

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<v Speaker 8>The here to help.

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<v Speaker 7>But it was a brand new type of vaccina, a

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<v Speaker 7>brand new type of process it's actually.

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<v Speaker 1>Involving the human genome.

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<v Speaker 7>I think this has got years to run because if

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<v Speaker 7>it's if it's doing what it claims to do, which

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<v Speaker 7>is having an effect on the human genome.

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<v Speaker 1>Affects my turn up years from now. We've got no

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what, no idea, how bad this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to get?

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<v Speaker 7>No idea and this could have years and years to run.

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<v Speaker 7>Can I just give a nod to Rebecca Wisser, one

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<v Speaker 7>of my colleagues. She currently edits Quadron. She's written a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of articles over the last two or three years

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<v Speaker 7>for the Spectator magazine blowing the wish a on this,

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<v Speaker 7>but mainstream media nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's good to see that it is starting to

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<v Speaker 2>come to the fore now. Good to see a government

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<v Speaker 2>like Kansas actually going and asking the questions that the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of us want answered. One of the other things

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<v Speaker 2>that the Attorney General of Kansas went into was the

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<v Speaker 2>alleged suppression of information that was being given to people,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly through social media.

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<v Speaker 9>After making these misleading statements, Pfizer also engaged in some

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<v Speaker 9>censorship attempts. Emails revealed that Pfiser officials coordinated with social

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<v Speaker 9>media platforms to censor any speech critical of Pfizer's COVID

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<v Speaker 9>nineteen vaccine safety and effectiveness.

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<v Speaker 2>As Liz said, grab the popcorn. And of course, the

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<v Speaker 2>federal government and the TGA still advised that your best

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<v Speaker 2>defense against COVID is the vaccine. Well, let's go to

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite topic of the night, which is human rights

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<v Speaker 2>abuses committed by bike lanes. I've been waiting for someone,

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<v Speaker 2>someone who've been talking about the.

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<v Speaker 6>Greatest human rights in.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting on a soap box.

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<v Speaker 7>But you understand, he spent a long time traveling down

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<v Speaker 7>major roads, tried to go fixed it with bikes in

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<v Speaker 7>front of.

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<v Speaker 1>Him, going thirty five, that's right and.

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<v Speaker 6>Under.

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<v Speaker 2>And the whole time I was sitting there thinking, Gee,

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<v Speaker 2>I wish one of these vaccines would kill me so

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have to sit here. I'm not suggesting they do,

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<v Speaker 2>but please take me out so I don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with bloody cyclist. So in Paddington in Sydney, a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of residents have worked out that there's this new

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<v Speaker 2>bikelane that's going to go up Oxford Street and because

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<v Speaker 2>there's a footpath and then there'll be a bike lane

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<v Speaker 2>and then the road and there are bus stops along

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<v Speaker 2>the road. They'll have to cross the bike lane in

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<v Speaker 2>order to get to the bus stop, and they are

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<v Speaker 2>quite concerned that they're going to be collected by speeding

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<v Speaker 2>cycle in the process. And you can see there this

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<v Speaker 2>as an example of one of these bikeways. It's got

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<v Speaker 2>the pedestrian crossing on it, but you know, when someone's

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<v Speaker 2>speeding along on their bike, it's quite easy for someone

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<v Speaker 2>to be collected. They have decided this is a human

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<v Speaker 2>rights issue and they have gone off to the Australian

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<v Speaker 2>Human Rights Commission. One of the blokes involved in this case, Sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Waterhouse cake, I'm thinking about my birthday tomorrow. Is

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<v Speaker 2>it was my fault as in walking across the thing

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<v Speaker 2>and nearly getting collected. But I realized this could happen

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<v Speaker 2>to anybody of a certain age. The more I looked

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<v Speaker 2>into it, the more I thought this is bizarre. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really concerned about it. The whole cycling thing is good

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<v Speaker 2>on one level. Unfortunately, there are a number of cyclists

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<v Speaker 2>who will cause problems. The demographic of Paddington is getting older.

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<v Speaker 2>There are a lot of people around who I think

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<v Speaker 2>will be affected and fair enough, and I should note

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<v Speaker 2>as well that one of the people involved in this

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<v Speaker 2>case to the Human Rights Commission is Catherine Griner, the

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<v Speaker 2>ex wife of former New South Wales pre Nick Grann.

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon they should rip every single one of these

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<v Speaker 2>bloody bike lanes out. They are a human rights issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Not only are they and I saw they take up

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<v Speaker 2>precious space on the road. And I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you've seen the bike lanes in Melbourne. They're much like

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<v Speaker 2>the ones in Sydney, but they take out an entire

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<v Speaker 2>lane of traffic through the CBD. There's never anyone on them.

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<v Speaker 2>You try to park your car in the Melbourne CBD,

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<v Speaker 2>someone wants to do a reverse parallel park. It holds

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<v Speaker 2>up all the traffic because there's literally only one lane

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<v Speaker 2>because they took one out for the bloody bike Get rid.

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<v Speaker 6>Of the lot of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Calm down, calm down.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't tell me to calm down.

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<v Speaker 1>Ken It's all right, don't come down. That's perfectly I've

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<v Speaker 1>got that.

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<v Speaker 7>Part of the problem is that cyclists understand they're superior

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<v Speaker 7>to the rest of us. Therefore they don't have to

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<v Speaker 7>treat us with respect and decency. We were pulling out

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<v Speaker 7>of a in the CBD in Sydney, pulling out of

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<v Speaker 7>a car park. To come out of this underground car park,

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<v Speaker 7>obviously you have to cross the bike lane in order

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<v Speaker 7>to get onto the road onto the right and so

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<v Speaker 7>but we pulled up there and we were watching the

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<v Speaker 7>traffic coming and a bicycle came down them so he

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<v Speaker 7>could proceeded to bump the side of our car with

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<v Speaker 7>his front wheel as hard as he could because we

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<v Speaker 7>didn't belong there, it belonged to him.

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<v Speaker 1>I've worked at that.

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<v Speaker 7>The problem is we are mere Homo sapiens. They have

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<v Speaker 7>evolved to the next level. They are home. They are homocyclists,

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<v Speaker 7>which is which is the next level of human evolution there,

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<v Speaker 7>and they're better than us because they're saving the planet.

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<v Speaker 7>We are discussing Homo sapiens down here somewhere because we're

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<v Speaker 7>not saving the planet. They're riding bikes, so they're saving

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<v Speaker 7>the planet. That makes them morally superior. They can do

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<v Speaker 7>whatever they like. I've actually worked that's their theory. There

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<v Speaker 7>is a problem with the theory because they're trying to

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<v Speaker 7>save the planet by reducing carbon dioxide. The problem is

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<v Speaker 7>every time they breathe out, they breathe carbon dioxide there,

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<v Speaker 7>so they've got alone to ride their bikes without breathing,

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<v Speaker 7>and then they'll be complete.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they potentially have to knock over some trees

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<v Speaker 2>to put in the bike lane, so it's not soaking

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<v Speaker 2>up all that that carbon dioxide. I mean, I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>particularly care whether they were homo cyclists or heterocyclist lives,

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<v Speaker 2>to be perfectly honest, But I reckon these people have

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<v Speaker 2>a point.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a point.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all good and well to say that the cyclists

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<v Speaker 2>need their little bit of the world to get about

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<v Speaker 2>what they're doing. But there are far more pedestrians on

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<v Speaker 2>the street than there are cyclists, and surely the pedestrians,

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<v Speaker 2>by that logic, should have right of way over the

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<v Speaker 2>cyclists in all cases.

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<v Speaker 6>Why can't we just have zebra crossings?

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<v Speaker 2>Then?

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<v Speaker 6>Because they do.

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<v Speaker 5>Some issue is that the bike lanes have created what's

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<v Speaker 5>now called island bus stops.

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<v Speaker 6>Did you cover off on this bit? I just glazed

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<v Speaker 6>over in the end.

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<v Speaker 5>He gets on his soapbox and I'm like, wow, I

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<v Speaker 5>can feel a lot of hot air on my left cheek,

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<v Speaker 5>but I can't.

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<v Speaker 6>So they're worries that people who are trying to get

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<v Speaker 6>to the.

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<v Speaker 5>Bus or disembarking the bus are going to be cleaned

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<v Speaker 5>up by these cyclists who don't care and don't stop

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<v Speaker 5>for anyone. I personally have never had a bad experience

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<v Speaker 5>with a cyclist, so I can't share your vitriol.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh no, no, no no, I can talk to you

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<v Speaker 7>about this an enormous length. Let me tell you the

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<v Speaker 7>part of the problem is cycles are silent and you

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<v Speaker 7>don't hear them coming up behind you.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we were.

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<v Speaker 7>Vienna and a local said to us, watch out for

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<v Speaker 7>the cyclists. They won't be watching out for you and

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<v Speaker 7>you can't hear them coming. Cyclists around the world are

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<v Speaker 7>superior to the rest of us, and they're allowed to

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<v Speaker 7>hit anyone who's not.

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<v Speaker 1>On a bike.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true. And you say you've never had a bad

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<v Speaker 2>experience with a cyclist, I haven't.

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<v Speaker 6>My father Guys Inlycra, I've always been kind.

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<v Speaker 2>They may well be kind, But my father is a

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<v Speaker 2>cyclist and he dons the licra every now and again.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that alone is the biggest problem with cyclists.

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<v Speaker 2>All these middle aged men getting around in their like

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<v Speaker 2>with their their tummies out, and then they go along

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<v Speaker 2>to the cafe and sip a coffee after going through

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<v Speaker 2>a ride.

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<v Speaker 6>You sounding jealous.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm not jealous of fat old men getting around

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<v Speaker 2>in buddy like.

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<v Speaker 6>Old ones at all. It's not even this is true.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll have to step on a set of scales before

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<v Speaker 2>you can buy.

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<v Speaker 6>Alf This is bordering on like bell.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, no, no, no, let me tell you that it

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<v Speaker 1>gets worse. They're also stupid.

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<v Speaker 7>They are riding a pushbike on the Pacific Highway.

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<v Speaker 1>I see them all the time. It is unsafe. It

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<v Speaker 1>is unsafe.

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<v Speaker 7>They're surrounded by vehicles which weigh tons and are made

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<v Speaker 7>out of steel. They're on a little bike and they

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<v Speaker 7>think like rule will protect them. I mean that is

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<v Speaker 7>that is fairly brain.

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<v Speaker 5>No, you can't mow them down. It's the same with

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<v Speaker 5>pedestrians who like saunter across. You're like, this isn't a

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<v Speaker 5>zebra crossing zebra crossing cat.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't say zebra. Show me your American pat sport.

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<v Speaker 1>If we're gonna say zebra.

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<v Speaker 6>The wrong man to say zebra with.

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<v Speaker 2>If we go down that road, we'll get into root

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<v Speaker 2>and route again. But I know that one of noisi

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<v Speaker 2>is SI.

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<v Speaker 5>Quickly to Tennessee now, where they have legislated the death

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<v Speaker 5>penalty for convicted child rapists and I'm jealous.

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<v Speaker 6>I am so jealous. Why do we not have this

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<v Speaker 6>here Australia.

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<v Speaker 10>Bring back corporal punishment, bring back capital punishment when it

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<v Speaker 10>comes to people who have been convicted of molesting, of raping,

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<v Speaker 10>of harming children.

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<v Speaker 6>I am all for it.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's Majority House Leader William Lamberth giving his thoughts on

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<v Speaker 5>the matter.

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<v Speaker 2>They should forfeit their own life.

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<v Speaker 1>They should face the death penalily.

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<v Speaker 7>Their lives are altered forever, they carry those scars for

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<v Speaker 7>the rest of their life.

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<v Speaker 5>He's not wrong, he's not wrong, and we know thru

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<v Speaker 5>studies these aren't the kinds of people who you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>just re educate them. At the same time, we have

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<v Speaker 5>movements now who are trying to legitimize maps minor attracted person.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yes, changing them pedophiles.

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<v Speaker 6>That is what they are.

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<v Speaker 7>The fact is that these people never change, They are

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<v Speaker 7>never cured, They never acknowledge that what they did was wrong.

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<v Speaker 7>So you've got to you've got to lock them away

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<v Speaker 7>to make society safer. You can't let them out again.

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<v Speaker 6>And the death taxpayer dime for the rest of their lives.

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<v Speaker 7>No thanks to the death penalty is one of three

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<v Speaker 7>options death penalty, life, imprisonment, life without the option of parole.

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<v Speaker 7>I actually would go for the last one because I'm

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<v Speaker 7>not a death penalty support. I belong to the life squad,

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<v Speaker 7>not the death squad. Right, the problem, there's a good reasons,

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<v Speaker 7>because human justice is fallible. If you lock up the

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<v Speaker 7>wrong person, you release them, but if you execute the

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<v Speaker 7>wrong person, you can't resurrect them.

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<v Speaker 5>Are human cases where it is is beyond all reasonable

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<v Speaker 5>doubt that these people did the crime.

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<v Speaker 7>Because the death penalty changes that. Lindy Chamberlin who was

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<v Speaker 7>found guilty of murder beyond reasonable doubt. So because human

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<v Speaker 7>just well, it's if it would have carried the death

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<v Speaker 7>penalty in Tennessee. My point is that because human justice

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:27.319
<v Speaker 7>is fallible, let's lock them up, let's not kill them.

0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:29.719
<v Speaker 7>That's that's the better way to go. But you're right,

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<v Speaker 7>it's the most horrible, horrendous crime.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there not an arguments? An argument? And I have

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<v Speaker 2>been sympathetic to the idea that the justice system is

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 2>fallible and therefore there are issues with the death penalty.

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<v Speaker 2>But have we not reached a point now with technology,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly DNA technology, where it is possible for a crime

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 2>to be proven beyond any doubt, not just beyond reasonable doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>And in those cases, why should be available? That's that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I think. Like if if it is fundamentally provable,

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<v Speaker 2>like not a matter of he said, she said, and

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:08.359
<v Speaker 2>a jury has to decide which side is more persuasive

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:11.400
<v Speaker 2>if it is there, if there is physical evidence, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>something like DNA with one hundred percent match between two people,

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<v Speaker 2>why should someone like that not be up for the.

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<v Speaker 7>Because there's still came on. I've got to answer his question.

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<v Speaker 7>Let me answer his question because I've got an answer.

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<v Speaker 7>It's human beings are still involved. If it was done

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<v Speaker 7>by the Pathology Department of the Queensland Police Service during

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<v Speaker 7>the DNA crisis, which has been reported by Headley Thomas,

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<v Speaker 7>the results.

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<v Speaker 1>Would have been just as dubious.

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<v Speaker 7>So because there's human beings involved, you can't be absolutely certain.

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<v Speaker 7>You don't kill people. You lock them up forever. I

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<v Speaker 7>know it costs some money, but it's still the right

0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:45.759
<v Speaker 7>thing to do.

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<v Speaker 6>I think putting them to death is to just overflowing.

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<v Speaker 5>They tell me that that wouldn't affect people with these

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<v Speaker 5>kind of evil proclivities if they knew that their.

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<v Speaker 6>Life hang in the balance.

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<v Speaker 5>If they were to act on those You cannot tell

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<v Speaker 5>me that that wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe it will.

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<v Speaker 7>No, I don't, but because because I think these people

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<v Speaker 7>think what they're doing is right, I think it's worse

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<v Speaker 7>than that.

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<v Speaker 6>So well, they're evil enough to and right now you're

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<v Speaker 6>adding to my argument for the death penalty. Thank you call.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, if you are watching tonight and you'd

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<v Speaker 2>like to put yourself up for the death penalty, go

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<v Speaker 2>over to Tennessee and we'll see how things end up

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<v Speaker 2>for you. After the break, we'll get into the papers.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have to give you a little tip. I

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<v Speaker 2>know some of you at home like a tip when

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<v Speaker 2>I've had a bit tonight, A piece of heaven Race

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<v Speaker 6>Out, don't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, no, on television, Lea's gamble responsible. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>We'll come back after the breakdown. Go away. Let's get

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<v Speaker 2>stuck into the papers. Kel You've got the Townsville Bulletin.

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<v Speaker 7>I have indeed, because there is a big Army base

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<v Speaker 7>in Townsville. They often have military stories on the front page.

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<v Speaker 7>And did you know the Army did gap years? I

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<v Speaker 7>had no idea, but it's true and I think it's

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<v Speaker 7>a wonderful idea. The story says that a stint in

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<v Speaker 7>camouflage could be the new Kontiki for the Australian Defense Forces,

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<v Speaker 7>boosting hundreds of school levers for its gap year program.

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<v Speaker 7>It started off with five hundred and ninety three back

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<v Speaker 7>in twenty eighteen, eight hundred and eighty one last year,

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<v Speaker 7>and already this year one hundred and seventy six have

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<v Speaker 7>signed up. I had no idea the Army provided gap

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<v Speaker 7>years for kids, and I think it's a great idea,

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<v Speaker 7>wonderful way to spend the gap year.

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<v Speaker 6>It's genius. It says.

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<v Speaker 5>Gap year recruits get the same employment benefits as other

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<v Speaker 5>ADF personnel, including access to subsidized accommodation and meals, and

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<v Speaker 5>full medical and dental covery.

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<v Speaker 1>They might even get to travel, They might have intro.

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<v Speaker 5>At a time when obviously our recruiting in the IDF

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<v Speaker 5>is But what I.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't get over is that their target is eight hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and eighty one this year. That seems to me a

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<v Speaker 2>really low target. But why are they not going into

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<v Speaker 2>every single school in the country and selling this. I

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<v Speaker 2>suppose because they're worried that people will actually take it

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<v Speaker 2>up and then they'll have to spend some money.

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<v Speaker 1>On it would cost.

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<v Speaker 2>But we know we've got problems in terms of recruiting people.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about allowing foreigners into the army, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>permanent residents who are not citizens, who come from Allied nations,

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<v Speaker 2>because we don't have enough Australian citizens who want to

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<v Speaker 2>sign up. Why wouldn't we go Okay, let's fix the

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<v Speaker 2>problem at the route instead of putting a band aid

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<v Speaker 2>over it later. Let's go into every school in the

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<v Speaker 2>country and encourage these kids to go off and good for.

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<v Speaker 5>Them, Good for them what they're doing at the end

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<v Speaker 5>of high school they're still like umming and ring and

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<v Speaker 5>not sure.

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<v Speaker 6>How better than to spend a year acquiring.

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<v Speaker 7>These kind of wonderful experience the state's budget, wonderful experience

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<v Speaker 7>for them, good for the army. Good or I just

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<v Speaker 7>remembering that famous army recruiting post to join the army,

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<v Speaker 7>see the world, meet interesting people and kill them.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow, that was that? Kn't of been an actual hell?

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<v Speaker 2>Surely I thought you were against dead.

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<v Speaker 6>Not anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>The run page of The Australia now the Dutton Department

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<v Speaker 5>of Nuclear The big splash reads Peter Dutton will announce

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<v Speaker 5>that nuclear reactors will be Commonwealth owned and operated under

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<v Speaker 5>similar schemes to those overseeing snowy Hydro. You don't want

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<v Speaker 5>to mention that, mate, And the NBN is Jim Chalmer's

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<v Speaker 5>attempts at renewables reset by placing new community benefit principles

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<v Speaker 5>at the center of Labour's future Made in Australia Act.

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<v Speaker 5>It's all very secret, squirrel. Nobody knows quite where these things.

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<v Speaker 7>Know and we know we know, we know the go

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<v Speaker 7>to go where the old coal fire power stations are.

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<v Speaker 7>We've had Albanis are saying, come on, show us the details.

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<v Speaker 1>We know the details.

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<v Speaker 7>They're going to where the grid already runs to. So

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<v Speaker 7>you don't have to spend billions and squillions building at

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<v Speaker 7>twenty eight thousand kilometers.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a new grid. You just use the grid that's there.

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<v Speaker 2>Up here for thinking incredible calm and we could find

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<v Speaker 2>out the sort ofitty gritty details of all of this

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<v Speaker 2>stuff as soon as tomorrow, which would be excellent because

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<v Speaker 2>that has been their only argument essentially. Oh, no one

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<v Speaker 2>really knows what's going to happen here. Oh where you're

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<v Speaker 2>possibly going to put it. Oh, it's going to cost

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<v Speaker 2>so much money. Oh it's terrible. Well, I mean, tell

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<v Speaker 2>me how that's any different to renewable energy.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, Oh, indeed, out of road to nowhere.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're going to have an offshore wind farm zone

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<v Speaker 2>down and off the coast of Victoria in South Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>But South Australia's not included anymore. Oh but that bit

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<v Speaker 2>of Victoria's not included anymore. That's been shrinking. We talked

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<v Speaker 2>last night about the one they want to put up

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<v Speaker 2>off the coast of the Illawarra here in New South Wales,

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<v Speaker 2>which is opposed strongly by the local community. There's no

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<v Speaker 2>more surety in their renewable projects than there is in nuclear.

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<v Speaker 2>The only travel is, of course, the nuclear energy is

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<v Speaker 2>still banned in this country. But and he's banned for

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<v Speaker 2>a reason, because they're scared it'll work.

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<v Speaker 7>And Albany is you can't say anything about this because

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<v Speaker 7>if he says to people, do you want a nuclear

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<v Speaker 7>power plant, well the answer is we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't particularly want your.

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<v Speaker 7>Huge transmission towers or your wee from no none of those,

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<v Speaker 7>thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, And unlike what they've done with green energy, with

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<v Speaker 5>most people being like, thanks for ruining our pristine rural areas,

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<v Speaker 5>et cetera, et cetera, our coastline, Dutton has done his

0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:26.280
<v Speaker 5>homework and this article talks about how they've gotten basically

0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:29.480
<v Speaker 5>the community's blessings in advance, so Labour.

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Can't be very smart on that front.

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<v Speaker 6>Last but not least on the front page of The Australian.

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<v Speaker 5>Joyce's sixteen million dollar payout is.

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<v Speaker 6>Up in the air. Love what you did there? Turnip phrase.

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<v Speaker 5>Former Quantus boss Alan Joyce faces a fight to claim

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<v Speaker 5>a sixteen million dollar windfall payment, with the airline hiring

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<v Speaker 5>a high profile consulting chief to question senior leaders on

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<v Speaker 5>whether a series of bungles on mister Joyce's watch will

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<v Speaker 5>void the payment of lucrative bonuses.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, well, well, I have a question.

0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:05.399
<v Speaker 1>I have a question for the viewer on this one.

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<v Speaker 7>Why is it knowing Alan Joyce might miss out on

0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:11.000
<v Speaker 7>sixteen million dollars makes you feel so good?

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<v Speaker 2>It's because his service was so bad, I think, why

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:22.399
<v Speaker 2>does he deserve sixteen No? No, And previously they talked

0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 2>about it being like eight million dollars or there, but

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:26.399
<v Speaker 2>now it's suddenly sixty Well.

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<v Speaker 5>Says his long term bonuses are almost fourteen million, plus

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<v Speaker 5>a short term bonus of just over two millions, So

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<v Speaker 5>I'm thinking, even if they go to the mattresses on this, he'll.

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<v Speaker 6>Probably just miss out on that bonus.

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<v Speaker 2>The short term bonus we should miss out on all

0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:48.239
<v Speaker 2>of its size. I'm concerned, but no, wonder Quantis is

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<v Speaker 2>bringing in consultants to try and clean up this mess

0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:53.000
<v Speaker 2>because the amount of money they have to pay out

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<v Speaker 2>to the blow who destroyed the reputation of that airline

0:43:57.800 --> 0:44:01.000
<v Speaker 2>is extortionated. And I don't know if any of you

0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:04.240
<v Speaker 2>have flown Quantus recently, but it's really not that different

0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:07.520
<v Speaker 2>to any other airline at the moment. The only good

0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:10.840
<v Speaker 2>thing I can say that they've done on Quantas is

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:15.240
<v Speaker 2>that they've brought the free booze forward from four pm

0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:22.479
<v Speaker 2>to mid That is the only good thing has done

0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 2>of late. I did take advantage of it recently, but

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<v Speaker 2>then when I compared the cost of the ticket to

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<v Speaker 2>get on the plane to the cost of getting on

0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:31.920
<v Speaker 2>a Virgin flight or a rex flat, I don't know

0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:33.799
<v Speaker 2>that I really came out with your head flap much

0:44:33.880 --> 0:44:36.719
<v Speaker 2>further further in Flat, Actually, you're not allowed to use

0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:39.880
<v Speaker 2>the hip flask apparently, like that stops you. But if

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:42.200
<v Speaker 2>they don't see you, it's not a problem.

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Let's go to the people put it in his coffee.

0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, a former radio colleague who you might have worked with,

0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Tony Pilkington, like to put a little whisky in his

0:44:57.600 --> 0:44:59.400
<v Speaker 2>coffee and drink it on air. Let's go to the

0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Korean reveal. Oh sorry, that's the wrong story. I was

0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:03.520
<v Speaker 2>about to tell you the one we just read on

0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:05.279
<v Speaker 2>the front of the oars. Let's go to this one.

0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:09.720
<v Speaker 2>Glady was a fraudster. Premier Stephen Marles handpicked Director General

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:13.439
<v Speaker 2>Mike Kayser, says committing fraud saved him from what would

0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:16.440
<v Speaker 2>have been a bloody, boring career as a labor minister.

0:45:16.960 --> 0:45:22.359
<v Speaker 2>Kayser opened up about the eighteen dating him nineteen eighty

0:45:22.440 --> 0:45:26.439
<v Speaker 2>six incidents when his signature on a false enrollment form

0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:31.520
<v Speaker 2>would force his resignation from PALA fifteen years later. Gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>just just move slows a bullet by the sounds of it,

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<v Speaker 2>lucky bagger.

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<v Speaker 7>And we missed out on a potentially honest politician.

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<v Speaker 2>Very quickly. The herald'sun Before we get to the pot hell.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, the Herald Son, there was a really grim story,

0:45:48.440 --> 0:45:51.040
<v Speaker 7>actually quite a frightening one where parents had to rush

0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:53.920
<v Speaker 7>their child who wasn't breathing to start with, in their

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:55.960
<v Speaker 7>own cart of the hospital because they were told that

0:45:56.040 --> 0:45:59.120
<v Speaker 7>the newest ambulance was fifty kilometers away. This is to

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<v Speaker 7>do with the collapse of the health system in Victoria.

0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:04.520
<v Speaker 7>Which is getting to be very bad COLB and.

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<v Speaker 2>It is killing people. I mean the coverage we did

0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:09.160
<v Speaker 2>at the Herald Sun when I was there. It is

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:11.800
<v Speaker 2>killing people, the fact that they can't answer the phones

0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:14.799
<v Speaker 2>and they can't get the ambulances to them. After the break.

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<v Speaker 2>Does social media need cigarette style warnings? Would have stopped

0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:25.279
<v Speaker 2>using Facebook? We'll talk about that after the frame. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>if there's one thing I've really come to love over

0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:30.960
<v Speaker 2>the last few years, it's health bureaucrats. I can't get

0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:35.400
<v Speaker 2>enough of them. How about the US Surgeon General Vivic Murphy,

0:46:35.480 --> 0:46:37.880
<v Speaker 2>who now says, if you go on social media, perhaps

0:46:37.920 --> 0:46:40.920
<v Speaker 2>you should be subjected to warnings much like the ones

0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:43.600
<v Speaker 2>you would get on cigarette packets. He reckons it will

0:46:43.680 --> 0:46:46.520
<v Speaker 2>discourage people from using social media, or at the very

0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:49.400
<v Speaker 2>least will warn them about the mental health impacts of

0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:49.880
<v Speaker 2>doing so.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to tell you, kell I reckon.

0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:54.400
<v Speaker 2>If I went on to Facebook or Instagram or whatever

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:57.600
<v Speaker 2>and I saw a cigarette style warning, that'd be enough

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<v Speaker 2>to make me light out.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably.

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<v Speaker 7>And we all know when we're online, dialogue boxes pop

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<v Speaker 7>up and we know exactly what we do. This is

0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:06.600
<v Speaker 7>a little cross on the top right hand corner, and

0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:08.399
<v Speaker 7>we click that and it goes away and we don't

0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:11.640
<v Speaker 7>know what it's said, So it's not going to achieve anything,

0:47:11.760 --> 0:47:13.960
<v Speaker 7>is it. I mean, it's a serious problem. Screen time

0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:18.080
<v Speaker 7>does destroy young brains, but we need a proper response

0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:18.360
<v Speaker 7>to it.

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<v Speaker 6>Not this here here, to the States.

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<v Speaker 5>Now where you would have seen this, because it went

0:47:24.080 --> 0:47:28.239
<v Speaker 5>absolutely viral, Biden doing his latest freeze and being let

0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:31.880
<v Speaker 5>off stage by Obama, who looks like he was taking

0:47:31.960 --> 0:47:34.879
<v Speaker 5>care of Grandpa that day and was assigned the role

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<v Speaker 5>of carer well. The following day, Biden's press secretary took

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<v Speaker 5>to the podium to assure everyone that no, no, that video.

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<v Speaker 6>That has been seen by millions of.

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<v Speaker 5>People around the world of Biden freezing yet again, seeming

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<v Speaker 5>to not know where he is, it's fake.

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<v Speaker 11>It tells you everything that we need to know about

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<v Speaker 11>how desperate, how desperate Republicans are here. And instead of

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<v Speaker 11>talking about the president's performance in office, and what I

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<v Speaker 11>mean by that is his legislative wins, what he's been

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<v Speaker 11>able to do for the American people across the country,

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<v Speaker 11>we're seeing these deep fakes, these manipulated videos. Lady.

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<v Speaker 5>There aren't enough deep fakes in the world to cover

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<v Speaker 5>up all of Biden's mishaps. Here he is clearly freezing

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<v Speaker 5>on stage and wait, wait, wait till Obama gives him

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<v Speaker 5>his cue and says, come on, Grams, let's it's time

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<v Speaker 5>for the retirement village.

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<v Speaker 6>Has called it's time to leave now.

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<v Speaker 5>This is the video that she is alleging is completely fake,

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<v Speaker 5>despite the fact that there was hundreds of people there

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<v Speaker 5>and witnessed it.

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<v Speaker 1>The expression for.

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<v Speaker 7>Us deep fake means digitally altered. That was not digitally altered.

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<v Speaker 7>Whatever else it was, it wasn't. So it's not a

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<v Speaker 7>deep fake.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me show you a real deep fake. This one's good.

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<v Speaker 12>Ladies and gentlemen, if you will look right here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 12>so you did not see Biden wandering around aimlessly, freezing

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<v Speaker 12>up himself, sniffing dignitaries, falling asleep, drinking drug cocktails, and

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<v Speaker 12>frisking serving girls. What you actually saw were cheap fakes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a deep fake.

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<v Speaker 12>But it's just the real video that we don't want

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<v Speaker 12>people to see.

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<v Speaker 2>These are real, We don't know anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it for us tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for your company to read a

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<v Speaker 2>panety shows something ex