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Speaker 1: Well, as mentioned with Frank, I think he raised it

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Speaker 1: the fact that yesterday in State Parliament the State government

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Speaker 1: used a procedure in debate called the guillotine, and what

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Speaker 1: that means is it shuts off the ability for speakers

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Speaker 1: to talk about legislation. It just goes to a vote

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Speaker 1: and some twenty two bills passed yesterday. You wonder what

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Speaker 1: they're going to do today. Ben Hood is a shadow

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Speaker 1: Government Accountability Minister and is on the line been good morning,

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Speaker 1: good morning, Matthew. Why the guillotine? What reasons did the

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Speaker 1: government give the opposition for using it?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely no reason at all. Making This is a government

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Speaker 2: that will take advantage of every opportunity. And they've sat

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Speaker 2: on their hands for the last two years. They've had

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Speaker 2: short days for the last two years in parliament, they

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Speaker 2: had no legislative agenda for the last two years, and

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Speaker 2: then suddenly they've decided to do some work. They're ranming

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Speaker 2: through legislation. We saw eleven bills guillotine yesterday, which is

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Speaker 2: recidented during the March of Liberal government, they had three

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Speaker 2: in the whole four years. This government has allowed sixty

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Speaker 2: minutes only on these bills to be allotted for all

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Speaker 2: stages apart from one where they had ninety minutes for

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Speaker 2: their own bill. They didn't even perceive that bill. Then

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Speaker 2: they fielded up with their speeches they had, the opposition

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Speaker 2: had an opportunity and the cost bench to then debate

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Speaker 2: those issues, and then the guillotine comes down and that

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Speaker 2: cuts off all debate. And it is a client of

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Speaker 2: arrogance that we've seen from this Malanaskus government. They're making

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Speaker 2: a mockery of parliament. They're utilizing this as some kind

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Speaker 2: of media opportunity, and to be quite honest, last night

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Speaker 2: the government was absolute chaos trying to figure out how

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Speaker 2: to even operate this guillotining. They had their own bill

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Speaker 2: and Aboriginal Heritage Bill, which saw them bring fifteen later amendments,

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Speaker 2: so they handed them to Josh speaking their dinner break,

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Speaker 2: so no opportunity for the opposition to consider them. Then

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Speaker 2: they had to lift their own guillotine and then imply

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Speaker 2: another one just so they could move their own amendments

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Speaker 2: to this bill. It's all wearing in nature. In fact,

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Speaker 2: it's just all welling in full stop. They are squashing democracy.

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Speaker 1: Well, I was going to say, from a democratic point

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Speaker 1: of view, I mean look, people say Parliament full of

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Speaker 1: hot air and wind bags, talking for hours and whatever,

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Speaker 1: but you do need to debate bills. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: the whole point of it. And just calling on a

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Speaker 1: vote scenes to me, as you say, going against democracy,

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Speaker 1: being very undemocratic in the process.

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Speaker 2: Completely against democracy. And we were seeing things such as

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Speaker 2: Retirement Villagers Act to reform and a number of criminal

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Speaker 2: law reforms. These are issues that we have been consulting

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Speaker 2: on for a very very long time. In fact, Josh

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Speaker 2: and he was taking carriage of a lot of these bills.

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Speaker 2: He was absolutely bewildered. He's debating the bills that were

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Speaker 2: passed through the Upper House over a year ago, and

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Speaker 2: then suddenly the government brings them on guillotines the debate

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Speaker 2: for sixty minutes just to get them through. I mean,

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Speaker 2: what have they been doing for the last year. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I know, we've we've got bread and circuses of the

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Speaker 2: Peter malen ousk dis government. You know they love to

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Speaker 2: head off to their sporting events and I love sporting

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Speaker 2: events too, but why now are they just deciding to

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Speaker 2: actually done on with the work when they had two

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Speaker 2: years to do this and they've done nothing, to sit

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Speaker 2: on their hands, have short days and often enjoying the

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Speaker 2: fruits of government. In other places.

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Speaker 1: You've been critical at the government too for not refusing

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Speaker 1: the police investigation into the any criminal links, whether they're

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Speaker 1: there or not, we don't know because the report hasn't

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Speaker 2: EU well exactly. So yesterday there was a question put

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Speaker 2: to the Attorney General in the Upper House and there's

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Speaker 2: also a question put to the Premier as well, and

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Speaker 2: that was on the advice or the written advice the

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Speaker 2: Police Commissioner had given the Premiere and ultimately from his

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Speaker 2: Mount ausk this's government. We've they've been to see nothing,

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Speaker 2: do nothing, say nothing government. With regards to the CSMEU

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Speaker 2: now FoST Commissioner said on radio he was restricted in

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Speaker 2: the cfmyear well, the questions of South Australia to the

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Speaker 2: Premier would be, if there's no serious concerns, why doesn't

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Speaker 2: the mal a Auskus government table the written advice from

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Speaker 2: the police Commissioner. It's all that in the open, we

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Speaker 2: know exactly what's going on. But unfortunately the South Australian

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Speaker 2: is not only dealing with this government's multitude of broken promises,

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Speaker 2: we're now left in the dark with mal Anouskus's arragant

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Speaker 2: attempts to stifle transparency and accountability. They went to the

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Speaker 2: election saying they were going to be a different government

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Speaker 2: than not they're the same old.

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Speaker 1: Labor all right, Just well I have you two. Let

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Speaker 1: me ask you the questioned Frank Pangelo drug testing of MPs,

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Speaker 1: would you support it?

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Speaker 2: Well, Matt, you've got my own personal view on that.

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Speaker 2: I've got mates seeing local government and that they're not

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Speaker 2: out in the grounds cutting down trees and things. They're

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Speaker 2: in office. They do get drug tested. My mates and

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Speaker 2: senior roles in local government get drug tested. Now, we

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Speaker 2: haven't seen any proposals come to Parliament, unlike the Melanaskus

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Speaker 2: Boys Club where they made Captain's calls. Whereas the opposition,

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Speaker 2: as a Liberal party, we sit down as a party

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Speaker 2: room and we discuss this issue as a party. Nothing's

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Speaker 2: come to us yet, but I'm looking forward to that debate.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you put it forward then why don't you

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Speaker 1: put it forward?

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Speaker 2: Well, hey, it might be something that we do put

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Speaker 2: forward you yourself.

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Speaker 1: Put it forward to your party to sit down if

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Speaker 1: you resord of it.

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Speaker 2: Let's well, I've got my own personal views. I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: let's consider it. I want to see all the information

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Speaker 2: on the table how to look and I'd love to

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Speaker 2: hear Frank talking about it. You know, Frank's a great

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Speaker 2: made of mine, and he said for the trimming, he's there,

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Speaker 2: he really did. I want to see all the information

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Speaker 2: before we make a decision on those types of things.

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Speaker 2: But in my own personal view, we see it in

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Speaker 2: other sectors. Should we see it in parliament?

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Speaker 1: Well, give me your personal view. Should we My personal.

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Speaker 2: View is I don't see a problem in it. That

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Speaker 2: is my personal view, though I want to take it

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Speaker 2: to the party and the party er and needs to

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Speaker 2: discuss this. We need to have a position as a party.

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Speaker 2: But I have my own personal views. Which is the

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Speaker 2: wonderful thing about being in a liberal party. We get

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Speaker 2: to have our very personal views.

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Speaker 1: Ben Hood, appreciate your time. Thank you. Thanks, Shadow Minister

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Speaker 1: for Government Accountability,