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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to twenty twenty five. A new

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Speaker 1: year means a brand new season of Super Coach AFL,

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Speaker 1: the biggest game in town, and this year it is

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Speaker 1: bigger than ever. Literally we say that every year, but

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Speaker 1: this year we have thirty one players to pick for

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Speaker 1: the first time ever. Thanks to the all new flex position,

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Speaker 1: the team picker is open for Super Coach Plus subscribers.

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Speaker 1: So today we're going to kick off the new year

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Speaker 1: by answering some of the biggest questions we have when

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Speaker 1: we start putting a team together seventy days out from

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Speaker 1: the first game of round one.

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Speaker 2: That's only sixty three if we're counting opening round.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Al Paydon, and to do all that,

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Speaker 1: I'm joined by my very good friend Dossi. We going

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Speaker 1: with Dossi this year. Is it Hayden or Phantom Junior?

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Speaker 1: What's the correct title for twenty twenty five?

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Speaker 3: Well, Phantom doesn't think I deserve Phantom Junior at this stage,

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Speaker 3: so I'm working my way back to get the Phantom

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Speaker 3: Junior title, so we'll stick with Dossi for now. But

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Speaker 3: happy holidays. I hope you've enjoyed this time tinkering away

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Speaker 3: at your team, just like I have been in Teampica

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Speaker 3: just about every day making some changes already up to

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Speaker 3: version three hundred and sixty four on my starting squad already.

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Speaker 4: So it's been a good time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And I've cerentainly been that button where you

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Speaker 1: can toggle between the AFL and the BBL and the

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Speaker 1: NBL and super Coach has been getting a real work out.

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Speaker 1: But the way those teams are traveling, I'll be spending

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Speaker 1: a lot more time on AFL from here on in,

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Speaker 1: which is fine by me. But of course we have

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Speaker 1: a very special guest with us as well. He does

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Speaker 1: all those super Coach games, produces amount of contents. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure everybody is familiar with one of the best blokes

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Speaker 1: and the biggest legends of the Supercoach world, and that

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Speaker 1: is of super Coach with the fame of course.

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Speaker 2: Welcome and happy New Year.

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Speaker 5: Thank you very much too kind in the intro, I

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Speaker 5: think there well, but look, it's always a pleasure sitting

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Speaker 5: down and chatting with you blokes. And you think I'd

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Speaker 5: be super coached out with all the BBL and NBL

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Speaker 5: stuff that's going on, but I just cannot get enough

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Speaker 5: of the game. But AFL is obviously my baby and

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Speaker 5: my favorite version of the game. So absolutely pumped for

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Speaker 5: a big twenty five season, lads.

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Speaker 1: And based on the hangings on the wall behind you,

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Speaker 1: everyone's watching this video can see the Lion's paraphernal you,

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Speaker 1: which we would know of course, here is a big

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Speaker 1: Brisbane man. So how's you come down off the high

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Speaker 1: as yet?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I got home about five minutes ago. It's been

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Speaker 5: a big celebration, a big party. As you know, flags

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Speaker 5: are very hard to come by, particularly with eighteen sins

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Speaker 5: to be nineteen teams in the comp so it was

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Speaker 5: a wonderful day, particularly after the heartbreak of last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it'll be a memory that will be with me forever.

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Speaker 5: And actually got to attend the game, which was the

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Speaker 5: best thing of all. So yeah, very very happy lines man.

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Speaker 2: No doubt, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, no Lion's going to present some very interesting

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Speaker 1: questions for us in the Supercoach twenty twenty five, so

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Speaker 1: we'll get into those very shortly. But it's going to

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Speaker 1: be a massive year, DOSSI. On the podcast front, you're

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Speaker 1: all over it. Where can people find us?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can find us on all the traditional podcast

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Speaker 3: platforms that you listen through audio, so Spotify, Apple Music

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Speaker 3: wherever you want to get it. We've also got now

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Speaker 3: on YouTube, so go to Code Sports YouTube. We don't

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Speaker 3: have a Supercoach YouTube. It is Code Sports. So if

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Speaker 3: you do want to see our beautiful faces on YouTube,

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Speaker 3: you can check it out there. But yeah, subscribe, follow along.

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Speaker 3: We've got so much content coming this preseason. We've got

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Speaker 3: a chokers planned for January especially, so get around it,

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Speaker 3: and yeah, let's get into it.

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Speaker 2: Out and yeah we should.

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Speaker 1: I mean I mentioned it briefly, but another plug for

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Speaker 1: Supercoach Plus, which gets you in obviously to the team

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Speaker 1: picker a few weeks still before the game opens for everybody,

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Speaker 1: so if you want to jump in early, it's a

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Speaker 1: great deal for gives you twelve months and all the

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Speaker 1: great extra stats and content that you get throughout the

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Speaker 1: year as part of Super Coach Plus.

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Speaker 2: So get involved in that if you're not already. But yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Thought we just started the year with a you know,

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Speaker 2: As I have.

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Speaker 1: But do you have a set procedure that you go

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Speaker 1: through every year When you log in for the first time,

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Speaker 5: We say the same thing each year when the team

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Speaker 5: picker comes out. Christmas has come early. I just so

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Speaker 5: stoked to see that team picker come out, mate, But

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Speaker 5: you touched on it before. I think the beauty about

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Speaker 5: Super Coach twenty twenty five and the last couple of

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Speaker 5: like the boosts, the extra trades, and now this flex position.

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Speaker 5: That's the great thing about it. Even rookie coaches compared

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Speaker 5: so some of the rules that we may usually take

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Speaker 5: And I could sit here talking for hours and hours

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Speaker 5: how many rookies do we go for that guns and

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Speaker 5: I think something that's really really important is to look

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Speaker 5: that may come the form of most likely mid price act.

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Speaker 5: it is extremely hard to pick out a decent breakout contender.

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Speaker 5: So I think we've got to look at a number

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Speaker 5: new roles. We can talk about players that have now

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Speaker 1: Traditionally guns and rookies man or a mid price madness

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Speaker 3: I've got a reputation. Unfortunately, for being a mid price man,

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Speaker 3: and as d I alluded to before, it can come

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Speaker 3: from my lessons gone by. Probably the thing that I

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Speaker 3: so I guess that's probably the biggest lesson for me.

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Speaker 3: But in terms of a starting team, I also like too,

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Speaker 3: and it's a lesson that I've learned over a number

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Speaker 3: that's fine. But I like to have sort of some

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it is much easier. You know, when

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Speaker 1: the team's come out before around mine. If you've got

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Speaker 2: That's not necessarily the most fun experience.

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Speaker 1: I mean I generally take the same approach as you

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Speaker 1: the best value picks this year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely. And as we know well as well, cash

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Speaker 5: generation is king Dosi just talked about it before. When

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Speaker 5: the beginning of the season. I think our forward line,

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Speaker 5: So I try to get some really high end primos

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Speaker 5: that's important to have at least three blokes that you

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Speaker 5: you look for that value wherever it's at. But you've

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Speaker 5: the fact that we can select so many value picks

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Speaker 5: wouldn't overdo it with the value but cashun is king.

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Speaker 5: That's certainly where you've got a look as a starting

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Speaker 1: I mean, are there any promos at all in the

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Speaker 5: Well Horn Francis is probably the main one at this point,

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Speaker 5: But apart from him, I go straight down to list

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Speaker 5: to someone like a Jack McCrae. At that price, I'm

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Speaker 5: not interested in your rankings, your moores at this stage.

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Speaker 5: You know we've got the opportunity to trade up to them.

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Speaker 5: But I just think that there's so much cashume made

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Speaker 5: to splash that cash in other positions, maybe the flex

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Speaker 5: this year, that could be a big advantage with some

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Speaker 5: of these cheap forwards we've got.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think one of the lessons I

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Speaker 3: But right now I'm probably I'm almost in the middle,

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Speaker 2: So I mean, uh, where, where where do you start with?

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Speaker 1: You know. Obviously you can maybe pick an extra Primo

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Speaker 5: It's really interesting. I've seen teams with three full blown

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Speaker 1: Mate Ossie, you're another early adopter on the TDK train,

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Speaker 3: Darcy provides some value. I think there's just so many

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Speaker 1: But yeah, the ruck, we can see in the talked

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Speaker 3: You'd think he is, But yeah, I need to see

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Speaker 4: So I looked back quickly.

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Speaker 1: last year, so just I mean, obviously Ron Marshall was

437
00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,320
Speaker 1: a Maine man down there, but I wanted to keep

438
00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:12,280
Speaker 1: an eye and if we can get a you know,

439
00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:16,359
Speaker 1: a ninety nine k bench ruck who's playing potentially that

440
00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,760
Speaker 1: could throw up a few other alternatives as well. Though

441
00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,679
Speaker 1: as the outside you're probably looking for some DPP there,

442
00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,760
Speaker 1: I think, is it Thomas Simms from the Tigers is

443
00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,960
Speaker 1: just about the cheapest DPP ruck at the moment, So

444
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,360
Speaker 1: there's some names in the ruck to think about.

445
00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,080
Speaker 2: I mean, or do we are we wiping Max Corn?

446
00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,080
Speaker 1: I mean, he's what thirty three thirty four last year

447
00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,720
Speaker 1: had just about his best season ever. You sort of

448
00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,399
Speaker 1: think he can't do it forever. But that's sort of

449
00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:43,000
Speaker 1: dicing with you know, danger, isn't it, especially when these

450
00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,359
Speaker 1: they don't have any early boys or anything like that

451
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,320
Speaker 1: to worry about. So if he starts, well, we could

452
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,600
Speaker 1: all have eg in our faces. There is that something

453
00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:51,920
Speaker 1: we need to be talking about.

454
00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,040
Speaker 5: Oh look, never right off Max Gorn. That's one thing

455
00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,439
Speaker 5: I've learned. Never write the great man off. Now. We

456
00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,199
Speaker 5: look at age profile and genuinely when players get to

457
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,480
Speaker 5: that thirty thirty one, we tend to tread with a

458
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,480
Speaker 5: bit of caution. But Max is just a bit of

459
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,359
Speaker 5: a different beast, and with all the stuff that's happened

460
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 5: in Melbourne during the offseason, I think he's going to

461
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 5: be keen as Muster to come out and really lead

462
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 5: from the front. So it's always a dangerous time anti

463
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,359
Speaker 5: potting Maxie. But I think we've got some other options

464
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,200
Speaker 5: and I don't think the GAP's going to be anywhere

465
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,159
Speaker 5: near as big as what we've seen in previous seasons.

466
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 5: We've seen Max scorn outscore the second Ruck by ten

467
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 5: to fifteen points. I just don't see that this year.

468
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,879
Speaker 5: And my tip is that he won't actually be the

469
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,440
Speaker 5: number one by the end of the year, so unlike

470
00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,119
Speaker 5: previous years, I just think we've got other players that

471
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,680
Speaker 5: could produce as much as what Maxie could.

472
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 1: All right, if we leave the Rucks there for now,

473
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to go back to the defense, And I

474
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,479
Speaker 1: guess the easiest thing to do when you do look

475
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,200
Speaker 1: at that blank screen is just see all those defenders

476
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 1: that have scored so well last year and check in

477
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 1: three or four of them, and then by the time

478
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,200
Speaker 1: you get to the fourth line, you have no money left.

479
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 1: But I mean, the defenders are tempting for me always

480
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,480
Speaker 1: because they always seems so reliable. You just think, you

481
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 1: know you're checking at Jack Sinclair or a player like that,

482
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 1: and they just guarantee look away one hundred and ten

483
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 1: every week, whereas some of the other positions are a

484
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,440
Speaker 1: bit more volatile. But then I think back twelve months

485
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 1: ago and I probably thought the same thing about someone

486
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:17,440
Speaker 1: like Tom Stewart who ended up falling off the radar,

487
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 1: then he came back a bit at the end of

488
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 1: the year, So maybe that's not the best way to

489
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,880
Speaker 1: approach it. But how many defensive primos have you got

490
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 1: in at the moment or does he will ask you.

491
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Speaker 3: I've only got two at the moment, but I'm even

492
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,159
Speaker 3: thinking about just going one like that. I feel like

493
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 3: the defensive line has been the toughest for me to

494
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 3: decide which way I want to go. If Gold Coast

495
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 3: didn't have the early buy, I think I just lock

496
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 3: away Sam Flanders. But with that incredibly early by and

497
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 3: it's what's around two this year, so they don't even

498
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,360
Speaker 3: get the cash the cash boost, or they don't even

499
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 3: get a third game, so you're not missing out on

500
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 3: any price movement, not that Sam Flanders could go up

501
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 3: much in price you to match anyway. But yeah, I've

502
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 3: got sort of Sheaesel and Sinclair at the moment as

503
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,959
Speaker 3: my two big dogs. But yet it's a quite a

504
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 3: tough line to know which way you want to go

505
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 3: because I just can't see where the value lies, like

506
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 3: whether or not you expect like a Jordan Clark to

507
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 3: go up in Valley or like a Dan Houston at

508
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 3: the Pies could be one that could go up. You know,

509
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 3: I just struggle to see Wangon and Miller. Does he

510
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 3: take a leap. I'd like to start a Maxie Holmes,

511
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 3: but they've also got the early buyer, So I feel

512
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 3: like you can go in a million different directions in

513
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 3: the defensive line, and that's one that Cheesel was just

514
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 3: that rock solid plass. I think a lot of people

515
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 3: will just lock away the She's and then Sinclair we

516
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 3: saw towards the back end of last year Go Go Ham,

517
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 3: So they're the two sort of premiums that I've locked

518
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 3: in early this year.

519
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 5: What do you think, Dar, It's a tricky one. As

520
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 5: Dos said, with the forward line, I think that's going

521
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,919
Speaker 5: to be very cookie cutter. I think that there's so

522
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 5: many obvious options there at value that we're going to

523
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 5: see a lot of similar forward lines. I think in

524
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 5: our defensive line we will start to see a little

525
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 5: bit more variation. Now I've had four primos there, I've

526
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 5: currently got three. But what I'm finding really really difficult

527
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 5: in the back line is trying to balance all these

528
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 5: mid price options. So there's three blokes I'm really keen on,

529
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 5: and that's Kitty Coleman, Callum Mills and Matt Roberts. Unfortunately though,

530
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 5: they all share the same buy, So for me it's

531
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Speaker 5: probably a matter of selecting maybe one out of the

532
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 5: three absolute maximum two out of the three. But if

533
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 5: you're running with, for example, a homes like you just mentioned,

534
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 5: even Tom Stewart or a Dan Houston, they all share

535
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 5: that round three by so that buy is killing me

536
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 5: a little bit at the moment when it's coming to

537
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 5: my planning. There are so many great defensive premium options,

538
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 5: it's just a matter of which one floats your boat.

539
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 5: I'm absolutely with your Doss Sheesel is a lock. Flanders

540
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 5: would be a lock for me if it wasn't for

541
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 5: that early buy. But if you're not carrying too many

542
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 5: other premiums that have the early buys, I think you

543
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 5: can probably get away with starting at Flanders. At the moment,

544
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 5: I've only got two premiums that have the early boys

545
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 5: mainly even go down to one, so I could, in

546
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 5: my personal circumstance probably afford to carry a Flanders with

547
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 5: that early buy. But if you're keen on players like

548
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 5: your Ashcroft's other popular selections that do have those early buys,

549
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 5: then it may be a little bit difficult, I think, mate.

550
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it was one lesson last year that I

551
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: think I'll try and take into this year was that

552
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: I did start Tom Green, who had one of those

553
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: early buys, and I'm glad I did, like just because

554
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: especially when you're talking about round two or three, hopefully

555
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: all our rookies are still playing, all those mid prost

556
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: guys are still playing. It's best eighteen scoring in the buys.

557
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: We've now got twenty three players on field, plus you know,

558
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: hopefully a full bench just about you should get a

559
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: decent enough score to cover someone like a Flanders or

560
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 1: a Green if you want to. I would probably only

561
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Speaker 1: pick one of them, but it could be a really

562
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: nice pod early door and yeah, you've got him when no.

563
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 2: One else does.

564
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: I mean, Flanders is just his positioning last year was

565
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: so weird that he played sort of the first half

566
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 1: of the year at half back and scored amazingly. Then

567
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: he went into the midfield and he was great, and

568
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 1: then he actually finished the year played the last four

569
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: or five rounds back in the forward line. But in

570
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: super coach he's gone from a forward to a defender

571
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 1: based on the whole season. So I don't know where

572
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: he's going to line up this year, but I mean

573
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: he scored wherever he was. The lesson we learned last

574
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: year was it doesn't matter where he plays, and he

575
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: just racks him up. So yeah, he's a very safe,

576
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: reliable player to have.

577
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 2: On your team.

578
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, there was just something from those early boys.

579
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: So I think he's a gold Coast and GWS maybe

580
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 1: have that first one. You could maybe pick one from there.

581
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 3: The reason as well I was saying that I could

582
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 3: even consider going less on the primos was today Ar's point.

583
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 3: On the mid price side of things, we have some

584
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 3: fantastic options, you know, whether you do go with the

585
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 3: meals and a kitty Coleman or.

586
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 4: Whichever way you go.

587
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 3: But then I feel like, unlike potentially previous years, I'm

588
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 3: feeling like the rookies could be strong in the back

589
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 3: line too.

590
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 4: Like you know, whether or not this comes to.

591
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 3: Fruition, it's so early, but whether we get Asadel Hooley

592
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 3: just in there, you know, potentially on field scoring really

593
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: well at Trevalia. I'm pretty high on coming in and

594
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 3: having an impact immediately. Bo Allen should have good job

595
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 3: security if he hits the track, you know, running. And

596
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 3: then Riley Biss is another one that's rearing his head

597
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 3: as a potential mature as rookie. So there's guys right

598
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 3: there that are all, you know, borderline basement that could

599
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 3: we put him on field? And is it a waste

600
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 3: having him on the bench. That's kind of where my

601
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 3: early thinking is at. So I could totally see myself

602
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 3: running pretty thin in defense if.

603
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 4: That is the case.

604
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 3: But I also completely understand you've got you've got to

605
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 3: have some rock solid players back there or you might

606
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 3: be in strife.

607
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 1: It's a great yeah where you've heard out of the

608
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: lines they are on how kiddies traveling. Obviously did his

609
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: ACL in opening around last year, so is he going

610
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 1: to play Round one?

611
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 5: Should be mate, so Danny Day mentioned, I think it

612
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 5: might have been two three weeks ago now that they're

613
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 5: planning on him actually participating in the preseason games, getting

614
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 5: those obviously that that match fitness that he's been lacking,

615
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 5: and then he should be right for around one, mate.

616
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 5: So looking good for Kitty at the moment, and I'm

617
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 5: hoping as a real impact And one thing I just

618
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 5: want to mention as well, with a couple of players

619
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 5: in our back line I forgot to talk about. We've

620
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 5: got Dan Houston that's obviously moved on from Port Adelaide.

621
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 5: We've got your ex boy Rioli that's now moved on

622
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 5: to the Suns. And what we need to remember when

623
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 5: players leave, it provides opportunity for other players to step

624
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 5: into the role. So at Port Adelaide we could have

625
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 5: someone like a Hughes, sorry, at Farrell, maybe Josh Sinn

626
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 5: at a cheaper price. And at the Tigers, does your

627
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 5: boy Jaden Short step into this role again al and

628
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 5: teasers like he does every year for once and every

629
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 5: I'm not too sure, But that's another thing. I'm always

630
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 5: keen to look at who's left the club and who's

631
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 5: going to step into that opportunity.

632
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard we're talking about some of those defensive rookies.

633
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: A couple of names at the Tigers that I've heard

634
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: thrown around is that might be getting some more opportunity

635
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: for you know, with someone like January oly Gone, like

636
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: a Sam Banks could get more games and you know,

637
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: more kick ins. Tom Brown is one we've seen a

638
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,719
Speaker 1: little bit. Obviously, he's not a bargain price anymore. But

639
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: as a yeah, some of the cheaper, cheaper guys might

640
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: get some more minutes. And you know, as we we

641
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: probably all think the ball is going to be down

642
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: there a bit this year. And yeah, Jaden Shaw it's

643
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: the one, as you say, every preseason he puts up

644
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: some massive score and you think he's just guaranteed to

645
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: monopolize the ball down there.

646
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm quite sure what happened with him last year.

647
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 2: It's sort of went a bit off the rails. But yeah,

648
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 2: he's cheap.

649
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: I think he's priced that sort of you know, in

650
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: the eighties or something, so we know he can do

651
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 1: a lot better than that. So I expose the other

652
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: only other question I had around Coleman was does he

653
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: does he boot Dane zorco out of the back line

654
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: down there after he so successfully sort of was thrown

655
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: in there in the last minute and you know ended

656
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: up being a huge win for the Lions. But yeah,

657
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: how old is done? Now?

658
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: You can't keep doing that ken.

659
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 5: He Oh look, I thought he was going to retire

660
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 5: a couple of years ago, and he's getting this this

661
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 5: I don't know what you call, but that this needling,

662
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 5: this occupy un type surgery and it seemed like it's

663
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 5: work wonders for him, saying last year to Fittez he

664
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 5: has ever felt, but that's Kitty's role. Kitty was really

665
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 5: earmarked for that role before he was injured, and you

666
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 5: look back to his Grand Final and his final series

667
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty three, that was absolutely elite. This bloke

668
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 5: was really ready to step up and become a major

669
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 5: cogan our side. Now what happens with Zorko is a

670
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 5: really interesting question because I'm not really sure about what

671
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 5: the answer is to that. I see Zorko if he's

672
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 5: in the back line, certainly playing over someone like a

673
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 5: Con McKenna. So is there room for Zorko and Kitty.

674
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 5: I think that there could be, But I really think

675
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 5: they want the ball in Kitty's hands because that left

676
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 5: peg is absolutely elite, and even things like the some

677
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 5: bonus kickings. I think that we'll look for Kitty to

678
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 5: be our main kicking distributor. So at the moment, I

679
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 5: think signs are good. But Zorka, I'm really not too

680
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 5: sure and made even as a line supporter, it's a

681
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 5: bit of a mystery for me.

682
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: At the moment. You have the name that it just

683
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: I was grasping for there for the Tigers is Caleb Smith,

684
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,239
Speaker 1: who played a couple of games last year's Only one

685
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: twenty one, so him talk about him sort of running

686
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: around half back in some of these sort of match simulations.

687
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: So obviously something to watch over the preseason.

688
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: And then we've obviously touched on a plenty already and

689
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: we sort of move into the midfield. But that those

690
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: early buyers, I mean, how big a consideration do they

691
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: have to be? And especially that round three one And

692
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: a question here for me that I've been wanting to

693
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: ask you the other since we started this podcast is

694
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: how many Ashcrofts are in your team currently?

695
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 5: Well? Only the one? Only the one, and it's the

696
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 5: newest one. It's LEVI. I was dead set sure that

697
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 5: I was going to start with this year. But again

698
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 5: we've already talked about it so much. It comes down

699
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 5: to the buyers, to these early buyers, like how many

700
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 5: of these blokes can you actually carry? I'm carrying a

701
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 5: film a forward line already in the midfield. I'm looking

702
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 5: to maybe get a particular player in from that buy.

703
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 5: So only one Ice Croft at the moment, and I

704
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 5: think with will. Are we looking for him to be

705
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 5: a keeper? Are we selecting him as a keeper, or

706
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 5: are we looking for him as a stepping stone? Off

707
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 5: think that at the price, probably for me, I'm leaning

708
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 5: towards him being a keeper. If he makes one hundred

709
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 5: and fifty K, he's probably scoring like a keeper anyway,

710
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 5: so you just hold on to him. So I think

711
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 5: that the price is a little bit awkward, although he's

712
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 5: got the potential to be absolutely anything, so I'm not

713
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 5: completely riding him off. And if I wasn't running with

714
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 5: a kiddy Coleman, there's a high chance that he would

715
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 5: be in my current side. But at the moment it's

716
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 5: just Levine, I've sort of ditched wheel just for now.

717
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 5: I feel terrible about it, mate.

718
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: What do you think in midfields in terms of is

719
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: this where we can go nuts on some of the

720
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: mid price madness where you just have to lock in

721
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: your bond and Pelly zach Bazi's guys, you are, here's

722
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: VC and C options every week, even if you're just

723
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: paying up and knowing that maybe they'll they'll drop a

724
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: little bit over the course of the year.

725
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 4: It's really tough.

726
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

727
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 3: I think it also depends probably this year where what

728
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 3: you're doing with flex, like if you're going an extra

729
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 3: a big dog premium like Ruck, say, like we've been

730
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 3: talking about, and your flex, I think maybe you do

731
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 3: have to sort of find more value in another line,

732
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 3: and that's kind of weighing up what that position or

733
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 3: value is there. But I think I sort of still

734
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: only like to keep to a couple, especially in the midfield.

735
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 3: There's so many we can choose from, but you know,

736
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 3: those big dogs are big dogs for a reason, and

737
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 3: when we need at least a couple of those guys

738
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 3: into whether they're your captain or just putting up some

739
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 3: big points, I still want some serious big gun scorers

740
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 3: in there. And those mid price guys there mid price

741
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 3: for a reason. There is that risk attached. So at

742
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 3: the moment, I'm sort of rolling with the two sort

743
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 3: of in that you know four, I've got Petling and

744
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 3: Clayton Oliver at the moment as my two kind of

745
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 3: guys in that bracket. And I've got a couple of

746
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 3: sort of who I would deem underpriced premium, so not

747
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 3: the high one hundred and twenty guys, but like I

748
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 3: Haten Young for instance, low hundreds.

749
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 4: So yeah, I actually talking about.

750
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 3: Mid price madness out across all positions. I sort of

751
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 3: put together what I would consider six must haves in

752
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 3: the early January twenty twenty five, and I want you

753
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 3: guys opinion on whether you think these these six are

754
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 3: the ones you'd consider, or if there's any others. But

755
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 3: I've got McCrae, Baslenka, I've put Callum Mills in this

756
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 3: must have as well, Matthaus, Philippoo, Caleb Daniel and I've

757
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 3: actually got Clayton Oliver in there as well. They're the

758
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 3: six I considered to be must have at their price.

759
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 3: Obviously it's very early January, things could change immediately. But

760
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 3: then the guys I've got to monitor, are you guys

761
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 3: like you're Maddie Roberts. He's under the new Dean Cox regime.

762
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 3: Does he still get that high distributing role in defense?

763
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 3: Will Ashcroft? As you said there, you know, can he

764
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 3: be a keeper? I've got him as a monitor. If

765
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 3: he's just looking like he's going to be an absolute

766
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 3: bonifid premium this year, then sure let's start in. I've

767
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 3: got James Petling not as I must have this year.

768
00:33:55,280 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 3: Monitor that you're coming your wardlaw Harley Reid, Will, Dave Perriman, Kerch.

769
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 4: It goes on. But the six must haves?

770
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 3: Would you agree or disagree their dr would you take

771
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 3: one out?

772
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 4: Would you add an union?

773
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 5: I would absolutely agree. The only one that is currently

774
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 5: not in my side and due to bystructure, is Calum Mills.

775
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 5: So if Mills had a better buy, I would absolutely

776
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 5: say yes with that mate. But those six, apart from

777
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 5: Meals currently are all in my side, So absolutely zero

778
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 5: arguments from me. DOSSI a very nice list, my man.

779
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 2: Where are you expecting Callum Mills to play this year?

780
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: Does he well?

781
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 3: I think midfield would be would be where I would

782
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 3: love him to play, and if to be honest, if

783
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 3: he's not, you know, I might also avoid because I

784
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: think Maddi, Roberts and a few others back there you know,

785
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 3: will have a say like the Lizard will have a

786
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 3: fair bit of distributing roll back there. So if he's

787
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 3: looking like a defender, I don't know if I'm that

788
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 3: keen because of just given how much value we've already

789
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 3: talked about, I might just save one hundred k and

790
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 3: and find someone else to pop in that slot. But

791
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 3: I really hope he plays midfield.

792
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I can't really I give any of those.

793
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: I mean Jack McCrae, al was sort of men and

794
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: could you know, could we leave him out? He's over

795
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: thirty and maybe Bebo just saw something that he just didn't,

796
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: you know, quite have the the wheels that he used

797
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,479
Speaker 1: to have, and that's the reason he sort of dropped

798
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: out of the midfield. And he's not automatically going to

799
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: go back to you know, the Jack McCrae that we

800
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: know that you know, scores one hundred and twenty every week,

801
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: But but when you look at the value there, it's

802
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: just so hard to pass up.

803
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 2: And then you know, I was looking this morning even

804
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: at some of his VFL games.

805
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: Played I think three VFL games last year and scored

806
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty plus super coach in all of them.

807
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: So and you know the role there that he's going

808
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: to get at the Saints, it's just you can't see

809
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: it really going badly.

810
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 2: Like the worst case is, you know, he.

811
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: Averages ninety and goes up a little bit and then

812
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: we you know, we swap him to someone else. But

813
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: it's going to be really hard to pass up someone

814
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 1: like that. But with the other thing in the midfield obviously,

815
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: is where bulk of these rookies come in. And we

816
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, the super draft that we saw

817
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago. Who do you like and

818
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 1: how many of those guys you think we could confidently

819
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: start on field when it comes round to around one

820
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: next year, well this year?

821
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, again it comes around to your structure, but I

822
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 5: think comfortably three. I've got Ashcroft at the moment. Big

823
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 5: fan of Jacob Smith. I hope that he can get

824
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 5: to midfield time and that Carlton rotation. It may not

825
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 5: be easy, but if you look at his junior numbers

826
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 5: and what he's produced, it's just been off the charts.

827
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 5: Sid Draper is another bloke. I'm looking at Xavier Lindsay.

828
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 5: I think he's getting it around the one fifty k mark.

829
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 5: I've heard a bit of talk about him. But there's

830
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 5: so many options in here. You got your blakes from Richmond.

831
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 5: How many of these guys are actually going to be

832
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 5: starting early on? Is it worth actually spending the money

833
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 5: on some of these Richmond guys their potential options and

834
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 5: all the way down to you've got some DPP, but

835
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 5: your start is a midfield DPP your Balwellen is as well.

836
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 5: There's plenty of options there, but the quality I don't

837
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 5: really think he can go wrong with too many these players.

838
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 5: I think it's all going to be about opportunity. How

839
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 5: much opportunity are they actually going to get? Even someone

840
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 5: like the Levi Ashcroft. Will he be getting midfield time?

841
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 5: I don't think we'll be getting too much midfield time,

842
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 5: but he's proven that he's such a great score and

843
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 5: elite player that he should be able to score pretty

844
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 5: well Reverie plays, but there's a few names that will

845
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 5: throw around them. Looking at anyway, mate.

846
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 1: What do you think there, Dossie? And do you worry

847
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: about DPP this early stage? You want to have a

848
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: link between the midfield and the defense and this kind

849
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: of thing or is sort of that'll play out in time.

850
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 3: I'm a played out kind of guy, but I know

851
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 3: the more seasoned super coaches out there definitely like the DPP,

852
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 3: so I probably should follow their lead and go with

853
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 3: a bit of DPP action. But I'm just finding so

854
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: much value with the pure midfield rookies at the moment,

855
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 3: and as we say, so early to know who's going

856
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 3: to get the job. Security, but even guys that aren't

857
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 3: in their first year, like does an Anger Sheldric get

858
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: some time under Dean Cox, Like, There's plenty of guys

859
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 3: in that bracket and going deeper in the draft like

860
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 3: Leo Lombard as well for Gold Coast. Look to have

861
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 3: a couple of highlight reels on the socials already for

862
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 3: Gold Coast. So there's plenty of options to look at

863
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 3: and the exciting times. But I have those exact same

864
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 3: three on field at the moment in Jaggers Smith, Sam

865
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 3: Draper and Levi Ashcroft at the moment. So I think

866
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 3: a lot of the community a sort of similar position.

867
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 3: Just these guys were the super coach Jets and they

868
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 3: look like they're going to get decent job opportunity, whether

869
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 3: that's midfield or not. We think they're going to play

870
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 3: Round one should everything go correct from here to the

871
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 3: start of the season.

872
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that. I think I've got the

873
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: same three. But yes, interesting to how you touched on.

874
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: I think Melbourne's a team to watch if they give

875
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: some of these kids an opportunity. They had two early picks.

876
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: Obviously they do a bit of a maneuvering in the

877
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: background to get up in the draft. They're pretty good

878
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: at that, and they landed Harvey Langford was the other

879
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: one I think in the top ten and zab Lindy,

880
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: and both of those guys put up some pretty good

881
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: numbers at at junior level. So if they get a

882
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: crack early, I think Lindsay could be sort of the

883
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: half back guy. It's an easy way into AFL, which

884
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: we love if it's a you know, that sort of

885
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: Colwe mc kirchis style. It's a lot a minute half

886
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: back and let him learn the caper back there that

887
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: that always is good for us in super Coach. So

888
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: there's a couple more names to watch, so to to

889
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: sort of wrap things up a little bit, I mean,

890
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: we've obviously talked a lot about the boys all the

891
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: way through as we go through each of the lines,

892
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: but I mean, just looking at it overall, obviously it

893
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: seems like round three is the boy. That's the one

894
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 1: we really need to be thinking about. Because you've got Brisbane,

895
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: which we've obviously mentioned. When when you've got some really

896
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: good options there to choose from the Swans, when you've

897
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: got a Mills and a Roberts, and you know, potentially

898
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: if we're picking Roy Bys as a rookie back all

899
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: in defense as well, which is not ideal. And then

900
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: also we have Collingwood and Gelong off that same week,

901
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: so you know, we're probably all going to pick Bailey Smith,

902
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: we think, but does that really rule out other you know,

903
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: especially primos from those teams, like I mean Nick Dacos.

904
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: Can we leave out a Nick Dacos at the start

905
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 1: of the year. And I've seen a lot of people

906
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: just thinking, oh, easy, we'll just pick him up, you know,

907
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: in round three. But you where do we find six

908
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty grand in round three to go and

909
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: get in Nick Daco's.

910
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 5: Yeh, not easy. I'm really focusing heavily on the buyers

911
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 5: this year, and we talked about eight teams that have

912
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 5: the early buy. But there's two teams in particular that

913
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 5: I think have a really really nice buy. I believe

914
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 5: it's around thirteen by and that's in kildren Frio And

915
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 5: people ask, well, why is it such a good bye?

916
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 5: It's because there's only two teams that share that. By

917
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 5: all other boys, I think the later buys there's at

918
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 5: least four teams on there. So for me, that brings

919
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 5: bokes like Sinclair, your Andy Brayshaw's, your Caleb Sarongs, even

920
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 5: someone like Ashan Darcy Rowland Marshall, if they float your boat,

921
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 5: they really come into contention for me because you know

922
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 5: that they're basically get an extra game as compared to

923
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 5: these blokes that have the early buys. So I am

924
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,479
Speaker 5: really in twenty twenty five going to have a major,

925
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 5: major focus on these buyers. I know we've got the

926
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 5: flex position next to and on field, there's going to

927
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 5: be lots of best A teams. But if you've got

928
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 5: a couple of extra premiums when other people are relying

929
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 5: on those rookie schools to being your best day team,

930
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,919
Speaker 5: I think that can give you a really, really big

931
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 5: kickstart at the beginning of the year. So yeah, very

932
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 5: keen on Saint Kilda and Fremantle players at the moment

933
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 5: and trying to avoid as many primos as possible from yeah,

934
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 5: those first eight teams that have the early buy as well,

935
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 5: and it's all about balancing. I wouldn't not select a

936
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 5: premium player that you're really really hot on just because

937
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 5: he's got the early buy if you can select some

938
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 5: other primos that don't have those early buys, then, as

939
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 5: I mentioned before, I think you can run with a

940
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 5: couple of them. I'd probably leave it that they wouldn't

941
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 5: be probably purchasing or starting with more than three players

942
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 5: that have the early buy But that's just my thoughts.

943
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 2: Anyway, where do you sit on this?

944
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: Dos you mean Zach Merritt is a player that I

945
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: think when the fixture came out we all penciled him

946
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: in because he has all these Thursday night games. It

947
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: would be a great VC you can lock away every week.

948
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: But then Esson and his playing opening round, so they

949
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: have a buy in round five I believe with the Hawks.

950
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: So does that rule him out? And how many of

951
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: those round three by players can we get away with?

952
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I just follow yeah what Da was

953
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 3: saying there. I think you're just sort of looking at

954
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 3: limiting that risk where you can, and you know, I

955
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 3: think given that they are going to play opening round,

956
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 3: that's probably where you just have to wait a lot

957
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 3: of that on that unfortunately, so we just have to

958
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 3: wait until opening round happens for the early early round

959
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 3: buyers because I'm generally looking as we've sort of been

960
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 3: talking about about value there and I'm less likely to

961
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 3: pick premiums that are playing there, so I think sort

962
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 3: of we even got tripped into it a bit last year.

963
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 3: I think Dekos had a monster score in opening round

964
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 3: and then he actually had a few stinkers after that,

965
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 3: so we thought we were getting a premium you know,

966
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: price rise included. He obviously came good at the end

967
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 3: of the year, but people that started cheese all over

968
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 3: him definitely benefited early on. And if you started both,

969
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 3: good on you. But I'm looking towards just looking at

970
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 3: those value players from the early early by rounds, I

971
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 3: don't think I'll be really touching any premiums unless they

972
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 3: really blow me away with that opening round game and

973
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 3: I look like I can't get it. You can't go

974
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: without them. It's a shame really. The round two buys

975
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 3: really frustrating me because I'm looking at a bunch of

976
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 3: gold Coasts and GWS players that I think could be

977
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 3: really strong keeper opportunities. So but I'm just going to

978
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 3: buy at my tongue and really wait until they come

979
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 3: off that buy as well, I just think it's not

980
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 3: worth having two buyers in a season rather than the

981
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 3: one one team that I have identified just early as well,

982
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 3: and something to else to consider outside of the by

983
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 3: round is just that early schedule and just looking at

984
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 3: the matchups as well, So way too early to be

985
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 3: looking at every team matchup. Haven't gone that far, but

986
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 3: I was just looking at Carlton and I feel like

987
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 3: they've got a really strong early fixture and I really

988
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 3: want to pick a couple of players from Cardon. So

989
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 3: they've got a bunch of Thursday and Friday games to

990
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 3: start the season as well. They've got a Richmond on

991
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 3: a Thursday, Hawks, Dogs Pies, and then West Coast and

992
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 3: North all in the first six rounds. So guys like

993
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 3: Sam Walsh TDK as we've mentioned, even an Adam Cherer

994
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 3: maybe is some value and the Jaggers Smith. I think

995
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 3: a lot of these Carton players I'm sort of interested in,

996
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 3: and whether you're interested in some forward line players as well.

997
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: Picking Charlie Kerner when your forward line.

998
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: Maybe, I mean, yeah, I mean you would have to

999
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: be very brave, especially with all the other options we've

1000
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: got down there, but yeah, I mean you can imagine

1001
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: against the Tigers, and I think he has a very

1002
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: good record. It's put some big scores up against the

1003
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: Dogs and obviously North and West coast in recent years too,

1004
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: But yes, that's everything that happened last year that would that.

1005
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 2: Would be a big call.

1006
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 1: But the other issue that we gain we have mentioned

1007
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: plenty of times, but what is your initial thoughts around

1008
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: who you want to start in that flex position? Is

1009
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: it you know, are you sort of locked into you

1010
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: want to try and get a ruck in there, or

1011
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: is it just an extra rookie that wherever they happen

1012
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: to be that that you can't fit them all in

1013
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: in a certain position, or have you got a strategy

1014
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: behind where you're going with that? Obviously, again something new

1015
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: that we're all having a crack out for the first time,

1016
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: so we don't know what the best answer is at

1017
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: this stage.

1018
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, very keen to hear what your thoughts are.

1019
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm currently running with Maddie Flynn there al so

1020
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 5: that it seems like every year we just want to

1021
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 5: select more and more rucks and this is the first

1022
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 5: time that we can actually do it. So I don't

1023
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 5: know if I'm just too excited about having the opportunity

1024
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 5: to select an extra ruck, but I really like the

1025
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 5: value that Matt Flynn provides, and I also really love

1026
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 5: having those two big boys there right from the start

1027
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 5: as well. So I'm currently going with that ruck setup

1028
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 5: and making sure I've obviously got that loop as I

1029
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 5: mentioned before, so then I can move a forward line

1030
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 5: player into there. But whether or not that will stick,

1031
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 5: I'm not too sure. I may even look to downgrade

1032
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 5: Flynn maybe to a rookie and focus on using that

1033
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 5: position for some cash gin instead. So currently the ruck,

1034
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 5: but it may change, mate.

1035
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 1: What about you, does I think at the end of

1036
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: the year, I mean, in a dream scenario we'd end

1037
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: up with three primo ruck, so it seems to be

1038
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 1: the best position in terms of just producing those big points.

1039
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: But is that how we start or do you come

1040
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: at it from another angle.

1041
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 3: I've got Maddie Flynn there as well at the moment,

1042
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 3: and I think if it's not Flynn, it's going to

1043
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 3: be another ruck. So if he's not playing, I know,

1044
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 3: I even pay a little bit more for a Toby

1045
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 3: Komway if he's playing, or a Harry Boyd a bit

1046
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 3: left if he's playing for Saints. Jordan's sweet if he's

1047
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 3: If he's in there, so I think I'm just gonna

1048
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 3: I'm definitely going to go a ruck there mainly just

1049
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 3: because we know, you know, the role of a ruckman

1050
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 3: is an extra midfielder, that they're good super coach scorers typically,

1051
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 3: So I think there's just going to be too much

1052
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 3: value for that ruck in that ruck department. And like

1053
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 3: Dr said, in the previous years we've wanted to play

1054
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:46,959
Speaker 3: an extra ruck, we've had him sitting on the bench.

1055
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: I just want to use that cheat code and chucking

1056
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 3: the ruckman straight away into the flex. So not sure

1057
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 3: whether I'll be bold enough to go, you know, super

1058
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 3: premium and have and have three of them. I think

1059
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 3: if one of those value rucks is playing like a

1060
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 3: Matt Flinn, I think you're just going to have to

1061
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 3: go there or you just have them sitting on the bench. Anyway,

1062
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 3: So yeah, actually want.

1063
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: A little bit a little bit different, you know, obviously,

1064
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: as we say, a long way out from round one,

1065
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: but don't have Flynn at the moment. I just I mean,

1066
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: I guess I haven't seen enough from him in his

1067
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: AFL career to convince me that he's a walk up

1068
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: start and he's going to be delivering for us every week.

1069
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: But we get a couple of months of pre season

1070
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 1: to try and answer that question, and if he is

1071
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: there number one rock in round one and you know

1072
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: Bjo Williams is on the bench or in the waffle

1073
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: or something, then he's going to be pretty hard to

1074
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: pass up.

1075
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 2: But I've got Motiyos Philipho.

1076
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: There at the moment. Just all those value options in

1077
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: the forward line, I can't fit them all in. So

1078
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: flexcuse me an extra spot to chuck one down there,

1079
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: and I can pick all these cheap forwards that I like.

1080
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll see over the preseason how that appends

1081
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: out which way we end up.

1082
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 4: Going, especially when you've got Charlie Kerno at F one.

1083
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 5: Right, well, right, it allows you to change up your

1084
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 5: structure a little bit. So just so for example, you know,

1085
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 5: we've got eight spots in our defensive line. It always

1086
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 5: seems like every year there's that extra defender that I

1087
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 5: just love to fit in, but I can't. I can

1088
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 5: only select eight. That means I can now select that

1089
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 5: extra defender in that flex position as well. So I

1090
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 5: really love this flex position. I wasn't quite sure when

1091
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 5: it was first announced, but the more I think about it,

1092
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 5: the more opportunities it gives us for strategy. You know,

1093
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 5: how you're completely different to what Dos and I are

1094
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 5: doing at the moment, and I think that's great for

1095
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 5: the game. You want to see a lot of variation,

1096
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 5: a lot of difference, and I think that the flex

1097
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 5: spot will really allow us.

1098
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 4: To do that. Beautiful.

1099
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 3: Let's put a little bow on this preseason discussion. I

1100
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 3: know we've, as we've said, we've been tinkering with our

1101
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 3: teams quite a bit already. I want us to go

1102
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 3: through a couple of players here, just one each. A player,

1103
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 3: the riskiest player, the riskiest pick in your team at

1104
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 3: the moment. Dr Let's hear your riskiest pick.

1105
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 5: Probably for me, I've already mentioned him a couple of times.

1106
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 5: I think it would have to be de Conning. I

1107
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 5: think now, mainly because we don't know one hundred percent

1108
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 5: if he's actually going to have that number one rock

1109
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 5: roll twin himself durability. We know that it was injured.

1110
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 5: You got a little bit burnt by him last year, Dice.

1111
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,760
Speaker 5: You experienced the highs and the lows of only sploke.

1112
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 5: But he's someone that I think has that much upside

1113
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 5: to him. It's not funny, and he could kill other

1114
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 5: teams that don't have him. So he's probably the riskiest

1115
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 5: play for me, Yeah, a lot of it's about Piddo though.

1116
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: For me at this point, mate, who have you got

1117
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: our Yeah, I'll say Luke Ryan at this stage, just

1118
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: I suppose when I opened the team picker and you

1119
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: see all those pre mode defenders up there with all

1120
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: those great numbers next to them, and I just remember

1121
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: owning Luke Ryan early last year and he was so

1122
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: good for me, and then he did tail off a

1123
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: bit in the second half of the year. But I

1124
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: think every year, I just feel like we come into

1125
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: it thinking, ah, you know, Luke Ryne is you know,

1126
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: he's not going to do that again, But then every

1127
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: year he does it. And I did look up before

1128
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: we came on here last year pre by average one

1129
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: thirty and then it was only in.

1130
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 2: The low hundreds after that.

1131
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: But the year before that, he in twenty twenty three,

1132
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: he averaged one hundred and twenty in the first eight

1133
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: rounds and then average with one hundred and ten for

1134
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: the rest of the year. So you might say, you know,

1135
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 1: does that make him a successful pick? But the problem

1136
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: is what happens is it gets to the middle of

1137
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: the year and everybody's jumping over themselves to get pay

1138
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: absolute top dollar to get Luke Bryan into their team,

1139
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: So are you better have to just start with him

1140
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: and get all those good scores early on when everyone

1141
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,479
Speaker 1: else doesn't have him. And he does have that nice

1142
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: round thirteen boy as well, which is factoring into it,

1143
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: So tempted to go there.

1144
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 2: We'll see Civa plays out.

1145
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: But I've got the three primo defenders as I mentioned

1146
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: earlier at the moment, and he's one of them, So yes,

1147
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: some risk attached. If he scores like you did in

1148
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: the second half of the year, then yeah, that's kind

1149
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: of overpaid massively if I go down that road.

1150
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 3: Perfectly fits under this category for risk, but also a

1151
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,439
Speaker 3: guy that has delivered massive premium scores in the past,

1152
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 3: so yeah, you just pant up, but you're just hoping

1153
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 3: he can replicate something similar. I've got a freemount of

1154
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 3: player as well. Sean Darcy is currently in my rup position,

1155
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 3: so definitely a risky, risky pick. But seeing pitches out

1156
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 3: of the West look an absolutely fit and shredded coming

1157
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 3: into this season, fit and firing apparently is Sean Darcy,

1158
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 3: so just knowing what he can do as a ruckman

1159
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 3: average under one hundred last year so priced. I think

1160
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 3: at what's his priced five hundred and twenty nine four hundred,

1161
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 3: so cheaper than Tom de Conning, a guy that's done

1162
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 3: it multiple times before, and a guy with that great

1163
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 3: round thirteen by with only two teams on it as well.

1164
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 3: So look, does he survive to that buy without getting injured?

1165
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 3: Maybe not, but look, Sewan Darcy is in my rock

1166
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 3: position at the moment as a very risky pick, but

1167
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 3: I like his value. There now one other player I

1168
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 3: want to get you, guys opinion, a player that you

1169
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 3: want in your team, but you can't quite fit him in.

1170
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 3: You've you've readjusted your squad so many times, and you

1171
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 3: just still can't fit this player in even though you

1172
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 3: really want him.

1173
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 4: Is it will Ashcroft for you?

1174
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 5: There they are. It's either Ashcroft or Meals. I can't

1175
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 5: choose exactly which one, but both for similar reasons. And

1176
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 5: we've talked about the buyers to absolute death during this episode.

1177
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 5: But he just doesn't work for me at the moment.

1178
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 5: Meals down back, I just can't seem to squeeze in.

1179
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 5: And then Ashcroft give them a different buy, AFL give

1180
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 5: them a different buy and they'll both be in locked.

1181
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 5: But Yeah, those two boys meals in Ashcroft. It's killing me.

1182
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 5: I just can't fit them in at the moment.

1183
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: How about you al for me, it's at the moment

1184
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: that I what I'm really wrestling with is that m

1185
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: two positions, so lock away Bonton Pelly as the most

1186
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: expensive midfielder, and then I just can't decide between Zach

1187
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: Butters and Nick Dacos, And I'm probably end up going

1188
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: with Butters, which it seems like nearly everyone's doing it

1189
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: this stage because obviously he's a great scorer, is improving

1190
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: as a you know, gets more experience, and Port doesn't

1191
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 1: have a buy early on, so it's pretty hard to

1192
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: ignore all that. But I just think we are all

1193
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 1: going to want to pick Nick Dacos in super Coach

1194
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 1: for the next probably ten years. Can just see him

1195
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: averaging one thirty for the year, and it's just I'm

1196
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: really tempted to just pick him and you know, back

1197
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: him in and hope that he can. Probably it's really

1198
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: comes down to that round three by and maybe how

1199
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: many of these other guys we we try and fit

1200
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: in from that round. But you know, maybe you might

1201
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: be playing a rookie on field that week, instead of him,

1202
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: and other people have Butters and you lose, you know,

1203
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: hopefully it's only maybe a fifty points, and then you've

1204
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: got the rest of the year to catch up.

1205
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 2: You know, we got at the end of the year.

1206
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: Your final rank is based on overall points for the

1207
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: whole season, so even you know, we love getting off

1208
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: to a hot start. But if I think Nick Dacos

1209
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: can score fifty more points than Butters over the course

1210
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: of the year, you know, you might end up in front.

1211
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 1: So I do actually have Dacos in there at the moment,

1212
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: just because I just love him as a player, not

1213
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: that I don't love Butters. I mean, I'm probably being

1214
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: influenced a little bit too by the fact that I

1215
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: picked Butters last year and he was such great value,

1216
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: and I just locked him away and I never really

1217
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:46,959
Speaker 1: thought of abouhim. I didn't even watch him that closely

1218
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: because you just knew he was going to deliver for

1219
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: you every week. So it's sort of this year it's

1220
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: not as fun to pick in a way because, as

1221
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: you know, the value isn't really there, but you know,

1222
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 1: we know how good he is, so yeah, it's really

1223
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: tough to choose between those guys, and you know, I'll

1224
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: probably just chicken out and go with Butters by the

1225
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 1: time Round one comes around.

1226
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 2: But at the moment, I'm backing myself in with Dekos

1227
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 2: at them too.

1228
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 3: My player, and it's probably no surprise player I can't

1229
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 3: quite fit in, And actually it might be a surprise

1230
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 3: that he's not in my team given the West Coast

1231
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 3: flat the West Coast scarves.

1232
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 4: Behind me at the moment.

1233
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,919
Speaker 3: But Harley Reid is one that I would just love

1234
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 3: to have in my starting team and still may very

1235
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 3: well get in there. But just as we spoke about earlier,

1236
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 3: some of the mid price options that we've got and

1237
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 3: how many of those can you have in your midfield,

1238
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 3: I've currently got Clayton Oliver in that spot, and I

1239
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 3: don't think I can have another player priced at four

1240
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty four K that Harley Reed is. But

1241
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 3: he averaged eighty points last year. I could see that

1242
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 3: rising up, he's going to be just playing pure midfield.

1243
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 3: West Coast have a little bit of a better team

1244
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 3: this year, a couple of new recruits. Does Maddi Flynn

1245
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 3: get in there and knock the ball down to him,

1246
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 3: I don't know. Look Harley Reid for me, I'd love

1247
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 3: to fit him in, but right now he's not in there.

1248
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 2: We're talking about players from our teams. A quick verdict.

1249
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 1: Have you guys got Tommy Lynch at the moment? I'm

1250
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: saying he's become a bit of a divisive selection. It's

1251
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: under two hundred k in the forward line. Obviously has

1252
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: had some injury issues in recent years. But at that price,

1253
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: are you taking the chance rolling the dice there at

1254
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:20,959
Speaker 1: the moment?

1255
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 5: I am at the moment a recent addition, But I'm

1256
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 5: just hoping for a nice couple of early bags and

1257
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 5: that's all we need from these key forwards, just to

1258
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 5: send their price scyrocketing early on at the start of

1259
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 5: the season. So if I do end up going with him,

1260
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 5: I'll be a big Tigers fan for the first five

1261
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 5: six weeks.

1262
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 3: Mate not in my squad, but he probably should be.

1263
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 3: I feel like he'll be a very popular pick if

1264
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 3: his body holds up across preseason.

1265
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that'll be one that we watch those

1266
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: preseason games very closely. And if he gets through and

1267
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:55,919
Speaker 1: he's picked in Round one, I mean at that price,

1268
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 1: I sort of feel like, you know, there's not much

1269
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: risk involved when especially when they play the first game

1270
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 1: of the season, so you can probably put them on

1271
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 1: the bench with the emergency on and just take.

1272
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 2: It from there.

1273
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 4: Beautiful.

1274
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot of forward planning for the start

1275
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 2: of January.

1276
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, lots to think about. And thanks again so much

1277
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 3: for coming along, DR. Now give us a quick plug, mate,

1278
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 3: Where can we find you across the YouTube channel that

1279
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 3: you do in your great podcast.

1280
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 5: Well, thanks for having me on, guys. It's always a pleasure.

1281
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 5: I'm obviously a very keen listener to everything that you

1282
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 5: guys do every week, so always an honor to jump

1283
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 5: on board, So thanks very much for inviting me on. Yeah,

1284
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 5: we're doing a bit of a mini channel rebranding at

1285
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 5: the moment. So we've obviously got our podcast, Supercoach sword Play,

1286
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 5: We've got our website, Supercoach swordplay dot com. So I

1287
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 5: thought it would only make sense for my YouTube channel,

1288
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 5: which is currently called super Coach with Dr, to also

1289
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 5: have a mini rebranding to sword Play. So we'll now

1290
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 5: be known as super Coach sword Play, doing heap to

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Speaker 5: preseason content or the team reviews, play reviews, and then

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Speaker 5: in season I've got the stock market. We're doing our potty,

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Speaker 5: doing lots of lives, mate. So yeah, if you want

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Speaker 5: to find us with the website Supercoachswordplay dot com or

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Speaker 5: else on next you can see me a handle there,

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Speaker 5: and yeah, feel free to check out the YouTube channel

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Speaker 5: for plenty of content beautiful mate.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate your time as always and thanks for listening. Everyone

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Speaker 3: to the official Super Coach AFL podcast check back on

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Speaker 3: this feed as well. Code Sports YouTube is where you

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Speaker 3: can find us, or just wherever you listen to your

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Speaker 3: audio podcast, you can find us there. Make sure you

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Speaker 3: leave a little rating and review a rating on Spotify

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Speaker 3: or review on Apple wherever you're listening, and subscribe on YouTube.

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Speaker 4: To help channel rolling along this pre season. We'll see

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Speaker 4: you very soon.

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Speaker 2: Thanky for you guys.