WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 24 September 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:07.920 Problemers Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Hello, Happy Tuesday. 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:11.560 There is so much to do tonight Australia First, that's 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:14.360 our focus. There's lots to get to, including the Prime 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:16.160 Minister's not going to like tonight's show. We know that 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:18.640 the Union these people hate watch the show. But wait 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:20.680 till I show you some data that nobody else has. 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:22.520 I'll get to that in a moment or two. Time 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:25.720 for all to talk about kids and social media. We 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:28.520 should probably talk about adults as well. Some new information 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:30.880 on all of that. Remember we have the data. Then 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:34.560 the opinion and who knew the cookies could be the 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:36.199 key to working out who is going to be the 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:39.680 next president of the United States. So number one story 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:42.080 in the country cost of living, number one story in 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:44.600 the country when it comes to cost of living, the 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:47.800 cost of housing today the Reserve Bank makes a clear decision, 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:51.519 which is no decision, thankfully. The indications are that they 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:55.080 weren't planning on going up. Instead they hold they hold 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:59.600 at generational highs. So the relief for home buyers line 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.280 that you'll hear everywhere in the media is of course garbage. 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:05.319 It is as high as it has been as I say, 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:09.039 in a generation we told you about NEWSPORLT that show 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:11.960 that when it comes to housing, mortgage rents and interest 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:15.319 rates number one part of the concern. When it comes 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:18.760 to cost of living, then we get the groceries bit 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:22.000 on that tonight, energy bills and insurance. Think nobody wants 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:24.360 to talk about the insurance side of things. It's all 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:28.520 just apparently the specials aisle of your local supermarket garbage. 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:32.160 Of course, I have also shown you that the reality 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:35.560 of the interest rate rises since this mob came to 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:39.920 power has been like a python. It is a python 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:43.200 that has squeezed and squeezed and squeezed and squeezed. And 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:48.000 the idea that people think when the pain remains at 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:51.400 the same level, oh, it's a relief for homeowners. Please. 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:56.080 Now I've shown you before that the average monthly home 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:58.040 loan repayment in this country used to be about two 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:00.440 and a bit thousand dollars. Then Albot became pro Minister 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:02.560 Charmers in charge of the economy. Now it's more than 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:07.400 four thousand dollars a month. Put all that together, do 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:10.200 you know that Australians are now paying five b four 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:14.320 billion dollars more on their monthly mortgage rates than they 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:18.279 did a couple of years ago. The cost to Australia 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:22.440 of this government, its failures and the Reserve Bank doing 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:25.519 the hard work the government refuses to do is five 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:30.960 billion dollars. Can Star analysis of the Reserve Bank data 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:34.320 shows the borrowers were charged fourteen and a half billion 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:37.240 dollars on their mortgages. When it comes to the repayments 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.520 in June of this year, that was nine billion dollars 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:43.960 just before the last election. Nothing to see here, just 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:47.560 a sixty one percent rise in the total amount of 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:50.040 money that people are having to pay off their mortgages. 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:56.360 So good luck spinning that sixty one percent higher in 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:59.480 the total pool of people paying back on their mortgage. 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:02.720 Oh it's a win. Oh at least it didn't get worse. 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:06.800 Guess what it is worse? It has been worse twelve 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:10.000 times under this mob. They lost their brain when it 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:13.280 was one under the previous Yet the media all just 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:17.680 work in tandem that they just get bored of talking 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:19.640 about the same story, unless, of course, it's the story 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.880 they are particularly invested in, the one that is truly 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:25.680 affecting Australians all day, every day. As cost of living. 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:28.040 It's why I talk about it every night. And the 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.160 very significant part of it are people trying to pay 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:32.200 off the house. Now I want them to cut rates. 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:34.920 Of course I'm paying off a mortgage just like a 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:37.640 third of the country. But the reason it's not happening 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:39.840 when it is happening in places like the United States 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:45.120 is because our inflation higher, our growth rate lower. The 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:48.720 Australian dollar has gone backwards under this mob. All of 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:52.160 this very boring, not as exciting as many of the 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:54.160 things that we talk about on TV and you might 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:57.320 hear on the radio. But this is the drum beat 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:04.600 of pressure on our fellow Australians. Now what about grim 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:07.760 Jim again? These people think you are so stupid and 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:10.880 you have no memory, or because you watched Sky News. 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:14.760 Oh you're such a small and insignificant number of people garbage. 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:17.800 You know where the message goes. You are the people 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:20.880 who lead the debate in your family. You can ten 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:25.200 x the information that you hear on this program. Chalmers 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:29.000 had the stones today to pretend that he's in complete 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:31.880 lockstep with the Reserve Bank. He wouldn't dare criticize them. 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:37.559 I don't preempt and I don't second guess decisions taken 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:44.520 by the independent Reserve Bank. I've made that very clear repeatedly, all. 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:47.440 Tish, you know that, and I know that it's not 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:50.159 even a month ago that this bloke was trying to 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:52.720 pull off on this Reserve Bank governor what he put 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:55.760 off on the last Reserve Bank governor, which was Mustache Twirling. 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:59.000 Reserve Bank is the real one ruining the world, not 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:04.160 the government who has failed to clip its own sales. Instead, 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:06.320 they are spending more money than ever before while taking 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:08.240 in more tax than ever before. But the tax is 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:10.640 slowly going to run out because places like China are 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:14.799 starting to slow down. And the structural deficit, which means 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:19.440 tens of billions of dollars which are constantly being added 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:21.880 by this government to the permanent settings of the budget 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:25.560 mean we are in deficit for the next twenty five years, 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:28.400 meaning every single one of those deficits will be added 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:31.400 to every single previous deficit, and the more than trillion 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:35.039 dollars that is currently in debt goes through the roof. 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:37.719 Oh but today was the good day because there was 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:41.200 no increase in interest rates. Well, here he is again 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:44.559 a month ago, absolutely bashing the Reserve Bank. 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:51.039 The combination of global economic uncertainty and higher interest rates 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:54.719 is smashing household budgets and slowing our economy considerably. 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:58.320 And also this bloke who thinks he's playing four dchess 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:01.400 with not just the politics of economics, because that's what 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:04.320 he has a doctorate in, not economics, the politics of 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:08.440 how Keating sold the message about the recession we had 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:10.320 to have et cetera, et cetera. Oh forget that a 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.320 million people were unemployed at the time, forget that the 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.160 interest rate was seventeen percent, or how did the Great 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:20.560 Paul Keating make it through question time? That's his expertise. Well, 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:23.839 this bloke when he was playing his four D chess 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:27.679 trying to make the Reserve Bank the big bad guy 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:31.760 of the Australian economy rather than the only people with 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.719 the fire hose trying to put out the burning blaze 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.520 that this mob have put in place since the first 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:40.680 day they came into office, with an expectation of the 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:44.440 fire getting worse every year for the next twenty five years. 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:50.240 Oh whatever, today with the great please you see what 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:53.120 he did was. Firstly, we remember he got rid of 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:56.000 the previous Reserve Bank governor because remember he was the 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:58.839 evil mustache twilding guy who kept putting up interest rates 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:02.240 despite the fact that the Albanize economy was so amazing. 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:04.799 So then he had the choice of deciding who the 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:09.320 next Reserve Bank governor was. He chose Michelle Bullock. He 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:14.400 chose the current Reserve Bank governor. He chose the person 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:17.440 who continued to increase interest rates and is telling us 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.600 as much as today, don't expect any interest rate cuts 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.240 this year. I no, no, but we're managing it so amazingly. 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:27.320 America down half of one percent. Australia, let's keep it 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:32.720 locked in till twenty twenty five. What was it? What 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:34.520 was the exact number there? Let me double check. A 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.520 sixty one percent increase in the overall amount of money 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:42.400 that people have had to find to repay their monthly mortgages. 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:47.240 That is the problem that is happening right now that 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:50.200 this government does not want to talk about. Well, what 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:53.360 he thought was, Okay, if we make the Reserve Bank 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:56.200 meet fewer times a year than that means they won't 0:07:56.200 --> 0:08:01.000 put up interest rates, right, Okay, Well didn't work. The 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.120 second one, of course, was, oh, if we make the 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:06.400 Reserve Bank governor do a press conference after the meeting 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:08.320 each and every time that they meet. Well, then the 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:12.360 media will blame the Reserve Bank for their rubbish decisions 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:16.880 when it comes to interest rates. The only problem is 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:20.720 all of this is backfired because giving the Reserve Bank 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:24.560 governor the opportunity to explain the decision but also to 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:28.600 comment on the failures of the broader economy, the failure 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:31.840 to get inflation back to where it belongs. Not some 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:35.439 sugar hit one that's bought. Remember the inflation numbers that 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.200 have come out tomorrow. The expectation is, oh, it's going 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:38.840 to be amazing. Could even have a two in front 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:41.480 of it. I think we just heard. Now, let's be serious. 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.960 This is because the federal government is spending millions of 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:50.120 dollars giving money to electricity companies not to put up 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:56.400 your power bill. All right, that's what's happening. Is completely arterficial, okay, 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:00.480 in terms of the actual your capacity to pay all 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.120 of those extra bills off fourteen dollars a week, two 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:06.680 little too late tax cuts. Again, it's all the politics, 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:11.560 it's not the reality. And you can't tell people that 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:15.959 it's a sunny day outside when they are being dumped 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:19.440 on every day and they have been for a couple 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:22.640 of years now, with an expectation of it getting worse 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.720 on some levels before it gets better. So again the 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:28.839 four D chests of oh, if the Reserve Bank governor 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:30.560 has to give a speech, well then everyone will blame 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.080 the governor. No, the governor gets to make an almost 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:36.400 monthly statement about how bad the federal government is and 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:41.199 how their rosy picture is exactly that garbage rolatipe. 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:45.080 They need to have a structured opportunity to explain and 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:48.480 defend those decisions, and they exist at the moment. The 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:52.439 Reserve Bank Governor does provide public commentary and has tried 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.880 to explain and in some cases defend decisions taken by 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.640 the Reserve Bank Board. But what the recommendations today are 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:01.040 all about is making that more structured. 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:05.680 Now, again this is the four D chess. Right, Well, 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.280 here's the actual governor telling you what the expectation is. 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:10.439 Forget the government telling you it's about to fall. Forget 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:12.320 the media that's spinning on the behalf of the government 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.320 because they know interest rates could be a reason why 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:19.160 they're headed into a minority scenario. So what does this 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:19.680 all mean. 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:22.720 Well, the recent data, I think your degree have been 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:26.000 a little mixed, but overall they reinforce the need to 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:29.960 maintain a restrictive monetary policy stance and remain vigilant to 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:33.360 the upside risk to inflation. The Board needs to be 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:37.240 confident that inflation is moving sustainably towards the target for 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:40.680 any decisions are made about a reduction and interest rates. 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:44.560 Oh you mean the serious people know the difference between 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:49.200 inflation rates that are bought off by stunts that only 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:52.920 last twelve months, that result in a twenty five dollars 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:57.040 credit on your power bill versus a structural change of 0:10:57.120 --> 0:11:01.000 two hundred and seventy five dollars, which, remember, was their promise. 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:03.960 But you're not allowed to mention that because the modeling 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:08.160 has changed. Honestly, look, I get it. If this was 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:10.160 a second term government, we'd be talking about them getting 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:12.840 swept from office. It's a first term government. Australians, don't 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:15.080 burn them out. I'll show you some polling data about 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:19.199 all that later. But these people are so cocky, so arrogant, 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:23.040 that they think that they can tell you that up 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:26.560 is down, black is white, left is right. They just 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:31.079 think the sheer magnetism of their argument and that anyone 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:34.440 who pushes back must be ignored to the extent where, 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.520 of course, will introduce a piece of legislation to silence 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:40.599 the critics of the government or you being able to 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:42.840 share videos like the one that you may will be 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:48.160 watching now because it's misinformation, as declared of course by 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:52.160 the left wing think tanks advising the left wing bureaucrats who, 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:54.720 among other things, think Kylin Jackie Oh should not be 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:58.880 on the radio. Come on now. Remember, of course, the 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:04.480 Prime Minister talked garbage yesterday when he was talking about supermarkets, 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.320 trying to pretend that the a trible c action against 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:12.320 Colesonwooli is about price reductions that may well not as 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:15.880 they seemed. Is the single reason why inflation has stayed 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:16.480 where it is. 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:22.680 No when you're charging more for products than you should, 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:27.640 it of course has an inflationary impact by definition, and 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:31.480 we know that inflation is what the Reserve Bank is 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:34.960 concentrating on in terms of monetary policy, as they should. 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:39.760 What annoys me the most to you is that there 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.800 are people who claim to know the world far better 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:45.680 than you and I, people who claim to be great 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:50.120 granular experts in everything from the economy to politics and 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:54.160 all in between, and they let that crap run. They 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:56.640 don't turn around and say, hang on, certain that's garbage, 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:02.080 because they know, like I know, like you know, that 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:04.440 there are a whole collection of things in the basket 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:06.959 of goods which are what are calculated when it comes 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:08.880 to inflation. I have to keep going back to this 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.480 because I want you to be armed with the information 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:14.080 to have the argument with the family with the friends. Okay. 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.320 Prime Minister says, oh, it's all coals and wool is fault. Okay, 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.240 how a Coles and Wool is involved in the insurance business. 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:24.000 Are they involved in the education sector, the health sector, 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:27.720 the housing sector, the transport sector, rely the communications sector. 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.920 Because you see all of those things, including the taxes 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:33.440 on tobacco, but we're not allowed to say that, are 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:38.320 we All of those things increase inflation. Them turning around 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:40.920 and saying things like well, petrol's slightly down because the 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.080 prices are ever so better, they're the ones that increase 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:47.080 the taxes. They could have dropped it. Instead, they put 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:49.480 the tax up to fifty cents a later, which is 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:51.679 exactly the same amount of tax, whether it's at two 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.400 dollars a letter or it's at a dollar eighty five. 0:13:55.559 --> 0:14:00.559 The power price thing is artificial. And again I pretend 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:04.160 not to play some economic expert on television. I've just 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:07.080 been around long enough, and I've had enough of the 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:10.200 lies and the garbage and the bs and the look 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:12.400 over here, look over here. This is the real story. No, 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:16.800 the real story is how three point seven million people 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:24.680 last year suffered food insecurity. The real story is that 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:27.760 the total amount of monthly repayments on a mortgage has 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:32.360 gone up sixty one percent since this mob became the government, 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:37.640 and their central promise was to lower the cost of living. 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:43.040 And if they get lucky or they buy their way 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:48.480 to a result, I truly trust the Australian people not 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:51.800 to believe that the people who set the fire are 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:53.560 the ones who are going to claim to put it out, 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:58.920 because they're blowing very softly on it. An excellent point 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:01.720 made by Chris Mitchell in the Australian Media Section. He's 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:06.080 the former editor of the Australian newspaper. Now how he 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:09.720 talks about the heavy cost of an economically illiterate media. Now, again, 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:12.040 I do not pretend to be some economics expert. I've 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:16.200 just been around for long enough to see the cycles, 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:19.200 to learn the bs and to know their tactics. And 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.320 also the joy of the system we live in is 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:22.840 that I don't have to go to Camber to get 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:25.920 the reports from the Reserve Bank or the ATO or 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:30.080 the Bureau Statistics. They're on a website every day. This 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:32.480 column has often criticized the nation's journalists have been too 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.360 concerned with the way governments fund social projects but less 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:38.200 worried about the growing economic pie to ensure that there 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:42.760 are enough jobs and taxes to pay for such programs. Yes, hallelujah, 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:46.240 much of this media cannot see pass gotcha questions about 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:49.840 potential spinning cuts by the coalition or desperately trying to 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:53.640 seek out the possible losers of any proposed economic reform. 0:15:54.720 --> 0:16:01.920 Perfect example of this the total budget of the ndis, 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:03.920 and the fear is about how much money that that 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.320 costs and how wildly out of control all of that is. 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:09.000 So much so that even Bill Shorten, before he's heading 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:11.800 out the door to take on the job that was 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.200 given to him by, among others, the person who he 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:17.480 hired to do an independent review into the ndis oh 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.280 the camera bubble. Of course, if that was a lip, 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:23.440 we'd still be talking about it as a controversy. But 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:27.960 you know, not even a day long story. Federal and 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:35.200 state debt matters. It is huge, it is blooming, and 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:39.440 like any debt, if you keep adding to it, the 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:43.400 cost of paying it off goes up. State governments in 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.600 particular expected to borrow more than one hundred one hundred 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:51.080 billion dollars this year to cover the surge in public spending. 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:56.000 Just under sixty percent of new state and territory debt 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:59.400 is being issued by ah the labor states, one trying 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:01.880 to buy a lection, one trying to cover their backside. 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:06.119 Queensland and Victoria abbitt schnuffing Sea. Here you're getting one 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:09.000 thousand dollars off on your power bill and fifty cent fares. 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:12.000 You'll be stupid enough to vote for this? Well, thankfully 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:16.679 all the polls tell us nuh, Queensland won't. With the 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:19.560 state set to borrow more than the Commonwealth for the 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:23.320 second consecutive year, the combined interest bill on growing federal 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:26.200 and state debts is expected to climb to forty four 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:31.879 billion dollars. Repeat the combined interest bill, So not the 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:34.080 principle you're not paying off the debt, you're paying off 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:38.200 the cost of the money is forty four billion dollars 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:43.520 a year. That is the entire ends. And remember, if 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:47.359 we're about to head into structural deficit, that means deeper 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:51.760 deficits added to each other for the next twenty five years. 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:55.080 Prior to the pandemic, the total amount that we were 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:58.520 paying off twenty five billion dollars in interest. So yes, 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:01.520 no doubt, job keeper, all of that job seeker. But 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:05.960 remember before the slippery little snake charmer, as Bromin calls 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:08.720 the Treasurer, gets his hands around it and pretends it's 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:12.440 all liberal debt. Remember, his position was that job keepers 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:16.000 should have cost more. His position was that the taxpayer 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:20.680 should have bought Virgin airlines because his expertise is spinning 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:26.600 new to a media that wants to be spun because 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:30.639 they don't want to tell you the same story every 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.520 day because they think it's boring and they think you 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:37.520 don't care. But another perfect example of perhaps what Chris 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:41.120 was talking about, but also just the ease with which 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:44.280 people just say, he you know what, more debt, literally 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:48.720 more debt. This is the apparent economics reporter, one of 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:52.040 the economics reporters for the ABSC on ABC Radio in 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:56.040 Sydney today Remember the entirety of the NDAs forty four 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:59.159 b four billion dollars is the interest on federal and 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:03.680 state debt. He says, I would, I would. I mean, 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:05.240 this is just me saying it, but I would personally 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:07.359 say throw caution to the wind on debt and just 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:08.040 go bananas. 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:08.359 Why not? 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:12.359 Yeah, debt it's only borrowed money controlled by other people. 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:14.960 When you end up owing money to other countries, they 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:18.840 end up owning you, which means a whole bunch of consequence. 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:21.800 What just more, who cares? No one's ever going to 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:23.720 call in the debt in Australia. No, what ends up 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:25.760 happening is the your credit rating starts to fall down, 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:28.840 which means the cost of the debt goes up. And 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:33.440 I'm justin idiot Bogan sitting here in skying his primetime 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:35.960 and how do I know that? And the economics bloke 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:42.000 on the ABC doesn't or he does and doesn't care. Meantime, 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:44.720 let's talk about more very bad holes for the Prime Minister, 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:46.680 and they are starting to panic some of his mates 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:49.679 in the media. Now today the essential pole, which of 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:53.600 course comes out in the turnbul Times the Guardian. It 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:55.800 shows that Australians believe the country is headed in the 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:58.639 wrong direction by such a margin. In fact, since this 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:01.679 government came to power, there's and a twenty five percent 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:04.320 increase to fifty two percent of people who think the 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:07.320 joints headed in the wrong direction, a seventeen percent reduction 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:08.680 in the number of people whoink we're headed in the 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:12.600 right direction, and seventeen percent reduction in the number of 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:15.320 people who are unsure. They're a rounding errors, So forgive 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:16.680 me if it doesn't always add up to one hundred. 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:21.160 I'm going off for their numbers. Interestingly, every demographic bar 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:23.200 one thinks that we are headed in the wrong direction. 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:26.760 Blokes fifty percent of them wrong direction, Women fifty four 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:29.920 percent wrong direction, younger people, whatever man, hand me a 0:20:30.000 --> 0:20:33.879 vape thirty three, thirty five to fifty four. These people 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:37.720 decide elections, all right. When they swing hard against the 0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:40.600 last government, they lost. If they swing hard against this government, 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:43.520 they will find themselves in a very significant minority position. 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:46.000 The older you get, the smarter you are, and you 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:48.240 know what this joint is. What's happening to this joint 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:50.840 under the rule of this mob that have of course, 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:57.280 interest rates, inflation, debt, whatever man meantime, worth notting here 0:20:57.320 --> 0:21:00.200 too about the overall numbers and the primary vote. Again 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:02.320 in the Turnbull Times, it shows that the Labor Party 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:06.680 is down three points in the last election twenty nine percent. Well, 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:09.639 they lose a few on that. The question though, and 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:11.800 this is why, don't buy into this one term stuff. 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:11.959 Right. 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:13.320 I get how much you want it, I get how 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:15.679 much I want it, I get how much the country 0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:18.800 needs it. But unless the vote moves from one major 0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:22.080 party to another major party, then basically everyone ends up 0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:24.880 preferencing the Labor Party. So that's how they end up 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:28.679 either saving their own backside or getting themselves into minority. 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:33.440 Now again, have a look at this, Have a look 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:36.400 at all of the scenarios here that are playing out 0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:38.800 before your very eyes there. This is why the eight 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:41.480 percent of the ten percent of the election electric that 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:44.680 is One Nation or United Australian Party. Your preferences matter, 0:21:44.720 --> 0:21:46.640 Buckle them all, put them all last. Guess what you'll 0:21:46.640 --> 0:21:51.320 get Labor now. Interestingly, of course, the Prime Minister thinks 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:53.399 there is a way of saving his own backside, and 0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:56.119 that is to say, Peter dunn't peda dudn't peda dudn't 0:21:56.119 --> 0:21:58.600 as much as I can because everyone hates him, right. 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:03.480 Peter Dutton's nuclear plan, which yesterday he gave a speech 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:08.200 on and which had no costings, no detail. Peter Dutton 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:11.760 has never believed in taking action on climate change. The 0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:15.439 only person who's been critical of the AZIO Director General 0:22:15.800 --> 0:22:19.480 is Peter Dutton. Peter Dutton recently got himself an account 0:22:19.520 --> 0:22:22.680 on TikTok. So they're a bit all over the shop 0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:24.200 when it comes to that. 0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:29.800 Well, ye're watching sunshine because the Channel N newspapers filled 0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:33.480 with people who hate Peter Dutton. Their entire sort of 0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:37.800 cartoon back catalog is attempts at trying to ridicule Peter Dutton. 0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:39.960 Very little of it when it comes to the Prime minister, 0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:42.399 because you know, then he might not invite us to 0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:46.120 the lodge. We mightn't get an invite to Kiribilly House. 0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:49.800 He may not come around and have dinner with us. 0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:53.000 All this happens, by the way, You know what, I'm 0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:55.639 just telling you. The truth makes me as unpopular as 0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:57.280 I am in the wider media, but I don't care 0:22:57.359 --> 0:23:00.679 to work for them, work for you. Here is the 0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:02.959 preferred Prime minister numbers. Let's have a look. In December 0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:07.480 last year, where forty three to twenty seven. Oh, that's 0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:09.520 Peter Dutton. In no way he's ever going to be elected. 0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:12.719 Guess what's happened since. Well, let's have a look at 0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:15.480 the most recent numbers. It chows Albo is down eight 0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:18.439 percent nationally as preferred prime minister. He's down eight percent 0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:20.840 with both men and women. He's down six percent with 0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:23.680 eighteen to thirty fours. He's down nine percent with thirty 0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:25.840 five to fifty four year olds, the ones who will 0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:30.960 decide the election. Remember, there is more people under the 0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:32.520 age of fifty than over the age of fifty. So 0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:34.840 when you see people like thirty five to fifty moving 0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:39.680 against him, that's a bad sign. Fifty five plus nine percent. 0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:42.400 As for Peter Dutton, he's up seven percent nationally, five 0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:45.359 percent with women, twelve percent with men, six percent with 0:23:45.760 --> 0:23:47.959 eighteen all the way to fifty four and up eleven 0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:52.000 percent fifty five plus. So when Peter Dutton is over 0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:54.040 the strike zone like he was tonight with our mate 0:23:54.080 --> 0:23:56.560 Chris Kenny, he is in exactly the right place. 0:23:57.920 --> 0:23:58.120 Chris. 0:23:58.280 --> 0:24:00.240 I just think Poles and Wallies have got a all 0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:02.080 over the prime ministry. I think they see him as 0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:05.480 most Australians do, and that is weak and unable to 0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:08.200 make a tough decision. The Prime Minister has been sitting 0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:11.440 on a report that they received from Craig Emerson about 0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:13.400 what code of conduct should be put in. 0:24:13.320 --> 0:24:16.320 Place for months and months and months and months. Nothing's happened. 0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:20.840 It's like the gambling reforms, It's like everything this government does. 0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:23.920 One or other thing on poles. Because this is the 0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:26.959 bit that's got some of his mates worried. This is 0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:29.639 the primary vote that happened in the twenty twenty four election. 0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:31.280 I don't expect you to read all of these numbers 0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:33.560 at once, follow the colors if you wish, just pick 0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:37.440 one indicase, as I said, the Labor Party's vote is down, 0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:40.560 because this is what it looks like right now. If 0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:43.720 you go state by state where Labor is down by 0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:45.800 four percent in you South Whills, three percent, in Victoria 0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:49.080 two percent, in Queensland eight percent, eight percent. They're down 0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:53.520 in Western Australia seven percent. They're down in South Australia. However, 0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:56.560 the Libs are in the same spot they were at 0:24:56.560 --> 0:24:58.680 the election in Western Australia and South Australia, where of 0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:00.879 course they lost seats there in Quens and they're up 0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:02.920 in Victoria. They're up in New South Wells, which means yes, 0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:05.399 there would be some movement. But that's why, as frustrated 0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:10.520 as I am the Independence which seem to be rising, 0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:12.320 we know which way they end up going. The Green's 0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:17.920 the same. I repeat, one nation, UAP libertarian. Your preference matters. 0:25:18.240 --> 0:25:21.879 If you do anything but choose, in my view, the 0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:24.080 Liberal Party as your second preference, then guess what you're 0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:26.040 going to get Labor again. The only way to shock 0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:28.000 them like you did in twenty nineteen is not put 0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:32.280 them all last, but put the Greens last, Labor before, 0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:34.520 and then obviously the lives in a higher position. But 0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:38.919 I mentioned panic. Paulvon Johner, great lefty lover of Sky News. 0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:43.480 Ooh he hates us, he writes in the Union Superannuation 0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:48.000 News website. Yes I know it does exist, and he 0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:50.560 writes that Labour needs alban Ezy to lift his game 0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:54.240 or call an election, because he thinks that an election 0:25:54.320 --> 0:25:56.880 would flush out all of the lies of Peter Dutton. 0:25:57.320 --> 0:26:00.680 Alban Easy could stop all the Grands standing by calling 0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:03.439 an election. After the state election in Queensland in October, 0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:06.280 there is every chance that a labor route at the 0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:09.439 Queenslane Pole could clear the air for federal labor in 0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:16.960 the state. Bone. I like your offer. Let's do it now. 0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:19.560 As we know, the generation of lefties have told us 0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:22.159 that you must finish your twelve. If you do not 0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:24.280 finish your twelve, you're a failure. If you go off 0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:27.760 and become a trade you're absolutely a failure. Because everyone 0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:31.760 must go to university. Well, there is an amazing story 0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:33.639 which will be on the front page of The Australian tomorrow, 0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:35.080 but it's up on the website now so I can 0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:37.680 talk about it now. Of course, more people than ever 0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:42.879 before have got university degrees, but the bill of unpaid 0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:46.760 hex or help debt is the biggest it's ever been 0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:49.280 in the country. Have a look at this graph, all right, 0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:53.560 this is extraordinary. A total of eighty one b four 0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:58.840 billion dollars, so virtually twice the annual budget of the 0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:04.320 Indias or twice the annual interest payments on state and 0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:06.960 federal debt. Have a look at this. In two thousand 0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:10.679 and five it was twelve billion dollars that students owed 0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:14.679 for the university degrees that they've done. But more people 0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:19.879 doing more degrees has increased. The debt In two thousand 0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:23.280 and fifteen, ten years later it was forty seven billion 0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:28.800 dollars and this year it's eighty one billion dollars. And 0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:31.320 the number of people who owe more than one hundred 0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:36.359 grand in their hex or help debt it used to 0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:40.640 be two thousand people about fifteen years ago. It's now 0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:44.640 fifty six thousand people who owe you and either taxpayer 0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:48.320 are one hundred thousand dollars to help pay for them 0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:51.439 to go to UNI. Now this makes sense if you're 0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:54.840 a doctor or a lawyer and engineer. It makes zero 0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:59.480 if like me, the best you could ever do was 0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:02.439 an arts to agree with some fun little stuff on 0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:06.760 the side. I paid it back. The idea that eighty 0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:12.360 two billion dollars is currently owed to the Australian taxpayer 0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:15.800 because you see, the university system is so good for 0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:18.919 the UNI that theoretically you have to be this smart 0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:23.120 to qualify. But then we'll let the international students pay 0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:26.440 and then we'll just fill the room with everyone who's left. 0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:28.639 You don't have to be qualified, you just have to 0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:32.000 turn up, because you see, the taxpayer will pay the 0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:35.760 full fee for you to study whatever you want, regardless 0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:37.520 of whether it's going to lead to a job or not, 0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:39.960 or whether you'll ever earn fifty thousand dollars to actually 0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:44.680 pay it back because you know, debt's just let's more 0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:51.800 play eighty two billion dollars in university dead fed. Wow. 0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:54.960 A couple of things about local council before we move 0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:57.000 on to the discussion this evening, as always can send 0:28:57.040 --> 0:28:58.160 me in him up. Well, let's go one news dot 0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:01.920 com dot AU Australian Day now. Way too many councils, 0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:04.600 of course, are affected by the woksooks who believe, oh, 0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:06.959 you can't have a national Day. By the way, April 0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:09.200 the thirteenth won't be a better day for any of 0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:12.200 these people. All the Invasion Day crowd feel no better 0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:16.520 about June fourteenth, or even an Australian version of June 0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:19.240 teenth on the twelfth if they want. They don't want 0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:23.240 any recognition, let alone celebration of our national Day. Well, 0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:26.320 as you may will have heard, a counsel in Adelaide 0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:29.000 which made the decision to give Australia Day the Biscuit, 0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:32.080 has now voted to put it back where it should 0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:34.960 be January the twenty sixth. Again, for those that are 0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:39.040 half listening, I'm fine with a Marlbo Day. I'm fine 0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:41.320 with the noul piece and model of two public holidays, 0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:44.240 one for the twenty fifth for before, one for twenty 0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:49.200 sixth for the current All fine by me because you 0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:53.240 know we had our public holidays like Grand Final ones 0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:56.200 in Victoria coming up on Friday. Thank you, Daniel Andrews. 0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:59.560 Please have a gold medal for your administration of the state. 0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:03.720 The mayor of this council in Adelaide was speaking to 0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:05.760 Adelaide's own Chris Kenney tonight. 0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:10.480 Seventy two percent of our community said we should hold 0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:14.320 an Australia Day community event in twenty twenty five, and 0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:17.840 sixty one percent of our community said that we should 0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:20.600 have the citizenship Sarah me on Australia Day. 0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:23.880 I think that guy was also involved in taking it 0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:25.800 off as straight to day. But what anyway, good good, 0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:29.600 good good decision made now. I don't understand how every 0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:33.320 local council doesn't attach to its local council elections a 0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:34.960 plebocide on this stuff, because I think we all know 0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:37.440 how people are going to vote, but of course you 0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:40.320 don't want to ask anyone because if you ask people 0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:42.880 then you have to do what they say, which in 0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:46.480 this case is again full awareness of our history, but 0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:49.800 total hope in our future, which is why I'm fine 0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:51.800 with Australia Day on January twenty sixth, and a Marlbow 0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:56.480 Day or anything else you want to on the twenty fifth. Now, 0:30:56.600 --> 0:31:00.360 when it comes to Harris versus Trump, latest official polling 0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:02.120 has actually been pretty good for Trump. I won't bore 0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:04.320 you with too much of the details here, but of course, 0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:07.240 so in America for some reason that it takes so 0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:10.360 long to vote, like in Australia with thirty people vote 0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:12.360 early because they can't be buggered, you know, waiting for 0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:14.960 five minutes a lot longer than five minutes to vote 0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:18.040 in places like the United States. So put your poles away, 0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:21.640 put your bedding away, put your smart alex on television away. 0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:25.880 Because there is a bakery in Ohio that has apparently 0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:30.800 accurately picked since nineteen eighty four the winner of the 0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:36.000 presidential election. Pretty simple. You buy the Trump cookie the 0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:39.640 Harris cookie, and they are buying the Trump cookie. Trump 0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:41.600 has notched up about fifty four percent or two thy 0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:44.400 nine hundred of the cookies compared to one hundred or 0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:48.040 thirty nine percent for Harris. Three hundred and ninety seven 0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:51.560 people have voted independent, so even if all of them 0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:53.200 went to Harris Trump would be the winner. So that's it. 0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:56.960 We don't need an election. That's how the cookie crumbles. 0:31:56.960 --> 0:32:01.080 Oh dad jokes, quick break back more here on Paulmurray Live. 0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.040 Lots to get to this Tuesday night. I'm glad you here. 0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:05.400 Remember Australia first. We'll look at the rest of the world, 0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:13.880 but this joint matters first, especially your joint. I've been 0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:15.520 looking forward to this all day. Other than the great 0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:18.840 Joe Hildebrand, who is of many different parishes, and how 0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:19.840 are you This. 0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:21.520 Is the only one I care about. The others mean 0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:22.240 nothing to me. 0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:26.280 You say that all the hosts, none other than, of course, 0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:28.680 with the Telegraph, and he's here in the man cave. 0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:31.120 Lisa god is with the dony media. She's in Brisbane 0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:33.840 right now. Kiss the ground for me. Queensland's amazing, thirty 0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:37.040 two days, the country a new beginning, fingers crossed. So 0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:40.080 what about one of the old lefties in the press gallery, 0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:42.880 Paul bon Johno. So let's have an election straight after 0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:46.520 the Queen's election, because this label will be able to 0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:51.240 expose everything. I mean, the economy apparently doesn't matter. What 0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:54.160 great advice is this the type of advice that MAT's getting. 0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:56.400 In the law, Christ Almighty, I hope not. 0:32:57.160 --> 0:33:01.120 Yeah, look obviously, I mean maybe put Maybe Paul I 0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:03.640 just lives in a place where every day is opposite. 0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:07.640 Stay and you do the exact opposite of whatever, which 0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:08.920 is a fantastic option. 0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:11.720 I can assure you, Albo, if you're watching, do not 0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:13.640 call an election. Stick to the plan. 0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:16.520 Do not listen to Paul I do the exact say, 0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:18.080 Oh my god, the government's tanking. 0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:20.120 You better call an election right now. 0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:23.760 It's like, oh, really, because otherwise otherwise he'll just keep 0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:26.200 going down further. Because I'm reading the poll and I'm 0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:29.200 looking at this line, the lines going correct. 0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:30.480 And the funny thing is Paul. 0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:34.080 I don't know how Paul survived as a political editor 0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:35.120 or whatever on earth he was. 0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:36.640 I don't think he broke a story in the entire 0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:37.160 time there. 0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:41.720 But the thing is right, the polls don't just magically happen. 0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:44.640 They're not just sequences of zeros and ones. 0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:47.560 They're not just move and red lines and just go 0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:50.040 up and down, kind of like some kind of weird 0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:52.240 algorithm or the weird sort of pattern on your TV 0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:56.320 where it's in power. Something that's right the polls, and 0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:59.160 I know this is an absolute Just get your pen out, mate, 0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:01.360 get your pen out, put on your red glasses, going 0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:03.880 to lay your pen out right by daddy ready. The 0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:07.760 poles respond to actual events, to the real world, to 0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:10.120 things that are happening in it. So if things happen 0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:13.680 in the real world, then the way people think about 0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:18.279 those things changes. So when people are upset with the 0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:21.720 government because interest rates are very high and not coming down, 0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:26.600 when interest rates start to come down, when they get happier, 0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:30.719 and when they get happier, they give different answers to 0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:37.160 the pollsters who call them up, and then the poles change. 0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:40.160 You could call it pole bonjourno. 0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:42.160 Ding I like, and I thought I did the good 0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:45.839 dad joke. You just beat me Lisa again right now 0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:50.480 again this message it's not about him directly, right, but 0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:54.080 it's just this idea that the opposition is so weak, 0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:57.359 the government is so amazing. Everyone would think Peter Dutton 0:34:57.440 --> 0:34:59.920 is so awful that given a small amount of exposure, 0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:03.000 he would become as radioactive as the energy policy. See 0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:04.640 what I did. I'm trying to win back that's the 0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:07.600 dad gags. You're right, yeah, but every pole is showing 0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:09.520 a seat now again, I sit here, we all know 0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:11.319 what I want to happen on an election. I don't pretend 0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:13.040 it's not going to be a minority government. It's it's 0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:15.560 minorities as low as they're going to go, right because 0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:18.040 of first term government, all the preferences, all the rest 0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:20.520 of it. Right, But the idea that Queensland is, you know, 0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:22.640 you're all knuckle draggers who don't know the difference between 0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:25.000 state and federal politics. Apparently because once you got rid 0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:27.120 of Stephen Miles, well then suddenly everyone falls in love 0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:27.800 with Albert. 0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:32.560 Yeah, yep, we're just going to absolutely go against labor 0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:35.400 here in Queensland. The bloodshed will happen and look, Albert 0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:37.920 will be just fine. That's the theory behind is employing 0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:41.200 the Paul Bon journo. Right, yeah, yeah, Look, there's a 0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:43.040 lot of much later in this state. At the minute, 0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:43.920 I can tell you. 0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:48.040 Yeah, it is leaving heap going. 0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:51.399 Sorry, yeah, I was gonna say what they're leaving out 0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:53.839 of this is you've got one in five Australians, it's 0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:57.239 estimated now holding a second job. Because I just can't 0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:59.920 afford the pressures of both cost of living and inflation. 0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:02.279 That's what they're fighting against. That's why they're seeing the 0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:04.960 poll numbers that they are. And Joe's right, they need 0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:07.040 to actually put some policies on the table and make 0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:09.480 some actual change if they're going to see these poles 0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:11.759 turn around. And I don't see that happening anytime soon. 0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:13.759 Well, but also, as I mentioned before, I find it in 0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:16.000 the notes. But what is it sixty one percent of 0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:18.520 the overall amount that people are paying back every month's 0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:20.399 come up by sixty one percent, right, so even when 0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:23.320 interest rates turn around, it's half a percent. Okay, yes, sentiment, 0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:26.799 all of it, But the actual life that consequences are 0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:28.480 not going to be the first rate cut. 0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:28.920 No, that's right. 0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:32.000 Will it will be it will be the It will 0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:33.759 not be that the race the rate cut will be 0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:35.799 a magic bullet that will make people's lives better. It 0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:37.799 will just be that this is a sign that things 0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:38.960 are getting better in the future. 0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:39.600 Bottom deck. 0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:42.319 I feel more positive, and they do have to get 0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:45.440 their hatred of Stephen Miles and Queensland labor out of 0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:47.359 their system, but that doesn't. 0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:48.080 That's not going to go away. 0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:50.480 What you actually want is for the Libs to be 0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:52.600 the l and pter b empower in Queensland for a 0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:55.120 good sort of few months and people think they sort 0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:56.880 of have a buffer as well. They will be in 0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:59.400 the honeymoon Perpertilly, Oh this guy's all right, and then 0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:01.600 they'll think, oh, maybe labor is not so bad. We'll 0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:03.400 have a bit of an each way bet correct, and 0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:06.359 the interust rates are cut, you know, everyone says they're 0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:09.120 going to come down further or maybe things aren't so bad, 0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:12.000 we'll give him another term. And that's what every labor government, sorry, 0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:15.080 every Australian government has received since World War II. 0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:18.080 So generally speaking, of course, we all know that, yes 0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:20.640 it happens, but Australian seem to prefer one color at 0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:22.120 the state, one color at the federal. 0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:24.720 That's right, a level of balance, that's right. It's a good, solid, 0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:27.280 safe each way. Bet It happened with Carr and Howard. 0:37:27.440 --> 0:37:31.359 It happened in Victoria in ninet ninety two when Jeff 0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:34.279 Kennett won in a landslide in October or November, and 0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:36.840 then in March or February March the following year. So 0:37:36.880 --> 0:37:39.640 again a few months later, once Kennett was in and 0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:42.160 doing all sorts of big cuts and blah blah blah. People, Actually, 0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:44.360 maybe we'll just keep labor in federally. Is a bit 0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:46.719 of insurance possible. And it was those Victorian seats that 0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:49.400 made Paul Kitting win the unwinnable election. 0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:51.799 While we aren't rattling the cage of some liftings, can 0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:54.120 we do so again today where Peter Dutton has come 0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:55.560 out and said, you know what, one of the jobs 0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:57.680 he will get rid of should he ever become Prime 0:37:57.680 --> 0:38:00.520 Minister is going to be a First Nations And now, 0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:04.239 of course there's a person who represents anyway. This is 0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:05.000 what he said today. 0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:07.800 If it is the case that we win the next election, 0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:11.319 that position will be abolished on day one and that 0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:13.960 money will be spent to help Australian sort of struggling 0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:15.560 at the moment to keep a roof over their head 0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:18.640 or to pay their electricity bill. We've got higher priorities 0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:19.160 at the moment. 0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:22.799 But of course Penny Wong says, why don't someone think 0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:24.320 about the international community. 0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:29.040 It's disappointing that mister Dutton doesn't see a role for 0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:35.560 Indigenous Australians in representing Australia. And we see again his 0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:39.480 character on display. He divides us at home and frankly 0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:41.800 he diminishes us in the world. 0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:46.000 Yeah, absolutely right, I mean just enterprise, not at all 0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:49.400 involved in a potential cabinet, let alone other members of 0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:53.080 the opposition. But Lisa, I read this all the time. 0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:55.960 Right now, it's always generally speaking, I'm going to say 0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:57.640 something about lefties, but yes, the right wing can do 0:38:57.680 --> 0:38:59.000 it from time to time as well, right as they're 0:38:59.000 --> 0:39:01.400 currently say doing with Nicko, which is, well, look what 0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:03.480 they're doing everything else in the world. Why don't we 0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:05.840 do what everyone else is doing in the world. Great? Cool? 0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:09.920 Could we have Singapore's tax policy, Could we have a 0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:15.080 New Zealand's could we have the tobacco laws from Italy? 0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:18.879 It's not a buffet. And as soon as we start 0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:20.960 to turn around and say, well, the international community, I 0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:23.920 mean we'll just become pariahs if we do this or 0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:28.279 do that, or in this case, don't have somebody who yes, 0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:32.480 represents indigenous peoples but does not represent the sovereign state. 0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:35.240 The sovereign state is the foreign Minister. 0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:40.279 Yeah, I completely agree, and also think back to when 0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:42.760 we were having the Voice debate. It was all about 0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:46.120 we were being shamed on the international stage because we 0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:49.160 weren't backing the Voice, remember those that those accusations were 0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:51.040 being thrown around to all the no voters. 0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:52.479 Correct that money, rather than. 0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:56.160 Going through the cost of living and Australian's cute blanche, 0:39:56.280 --> 0:39:58.799 put it back into the indigenous communities. Would that not 0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:00.840 be the argument that you would make that if you 0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:03.839 were back to the days where you've got elbow, where 0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:07.239 he spent the first sixteen months of his time in 0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:09.560 power actually focused on the Voice and not much else. 0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:11.719 But surely now they should be saying, well, let's put 0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:14.880 more of that money back into those indigenous communities. 0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:16.520 Exactly, and look, look to be honest, whatever happens to 0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:21.320 the next election, that will be the ruling. The line 0:40:21.400 --> 0:40:24.879 underneath the distraction of the focus of the government when 0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:26.840 cost of living was getting wildly out of control and 0:40:26.840 --> 0:40:28.360 they were banging on, of course about the change of 0:40:28.360 --> 0:40:32.359 the constitution. But again, Joe, you've seen plenty of people 0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:34.360 argue this line, right, which is the how will the 0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:37.840 international community think about us right now? I'm completely aware 0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:40.080 that we are in a more connected world than ever before, 0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:41.400 and we're part of this, and we're part of that, 0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:43.080 and We're not an island that doesn't communicate by the 0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:44.440 rest of the world, and we don't have histories that 0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:46.520 need to be doing fine with all of that. But 0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:51.839 the least convincing line about keeping an essentially meaningless ceremonial 0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:54.879 position is what other countries think of it. 0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:56.319 It is the stupidest reason for doing it. 0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:59.080 I'm sure, I hope there are good reasons for having 0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:02.480 a First Nations ambassador. I mean, I couldn't give a 0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:04.560 rats what other countries think of us, accepting so far 0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:08.279 as we're strategically protected from foreign and we've got a 0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:11.840 good trading relationship with we need so that's right. It 0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:14.799 should be all about you know, the Australian government is 0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:16.719 not the UN it is the Australian government should be 0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:17.640 governing in the best insight. 0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:21.640 Don't tell any that she's working it off in the 0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:22.200 Middle East. 0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:23.520 I mean, if you want it, that's right. 0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:25.640 If you wanted well, if you wanted you know, I mean, 0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:28.160 you would think that the most important role of a 0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:31.680 First Nation's ambassador would be to make representations to the 0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:34.160 Australian government, correct, which of course is what the Voice 0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:35.360 was initially intended to do. 0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:36.680 And push it up it's gone. 0:41:37.080 --> 0:41:39.680 I know that's right, but certainly was what was your 0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:43.560 last one? What I was what I was told that 0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:46.560 it was going to be. And so again, if you're 0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:50.279 going to represent First Nations people in Australia and put 0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:53.160 their interests front and center, the people you would want 0:41:53.160 --> 0:41:55.800 to be talking to, and not any other foreign government 0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:58.040 but the Australian government, and you would want someone who 0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:00.120 says things like, you know, this is what's happening in 0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:02.799 our communities in Alice Springs, this is what's happening in 0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:05.360 our remote communities, this is what's happening in Wilcanya. You know, 0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:07.760 these are the things we need. This is what's not working. 0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:10.640 Can you can we do it this way instead? But look, 0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:15.040 I mean the explanation I saw for for this guy's 0:42:15.080 --> 0:42:17.719 roles did seem pretty bully to me. I have to say, 0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:20.799 you know, it was in accordance with the strategic alignments 0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:23.200 and whatever, and. 0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:25.839 We need some straight talk. 0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:28.080 The dollars on the travel, it's the dollars on the 0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:30.880 travel that we're really good under the bondard of most Australians, 0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:31.720 I think, correct? 0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:33.040 Correct? What can you prove for it? 0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:33.160 All? 0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:36.520 Right? Quick breaking plenty to talk about including Look, we're 0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:39.320 all focused about kids and social media. What about adults? 0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:42.400 We're plenty hooked on it. Also, there was such a 0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:45.040 great chat the other night about pets on planes? What 0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:53.280 about pets for renters? Want to sing? Joe Hildebrand talking 0:42:53.320 --> 0:42:56.320 common sense is always really favorite. This is his favorite 0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:56.799 camera right now. 0:42:56.800 --> 0:42:57.800 This is my safe space. 0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:01.640 Only seven scores, but I love it all right, And 0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:04.520 Lisa got out, of course from Adoni Media now doing 0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:06.719 great suffers in Brisy. I want to start with you, 0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:10.680 Lisa about the supermarket stuff, right, because I think the 0:43:10.680 --> 0:43:14.319 Prime Minister thinks that he's got finally the scapegoat. Now 0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:15.799 with the case and all the rest of it, Can 0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:17.680 I just make a bold prediction, by the way, it'll 0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:20.160 get settled, just like all of these things end up 0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:23.640 taking place. Yes, there'll be some you know, reputation, all 0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:25.480 this and that along the way, but at the end 0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:28.120 of the day, as we have shown with four big banks, 0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:31.480 as we will show with two major supermarkets, as we will, 0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:35.080 we all know people will revert back to type. Okay, 0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:39.319 but what do you think of how this has played 0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:42.160 out in the past twenty four hours? That do you Yeah, 0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:44.160 who do you think has either the most to gain 0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:48.320 the most to lose, or just like a royal commission 0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:51.480 into the banks, we're exactly where we were the day before. 0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:55.080 You mean it goes nowhere, Paul Murray? Is that what 0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:56.520 you're saying, You're going to go through all of this 0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:58.799 and not much full change. Is that what you're saying now? 0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:00.960 I don't believe it. At the end of the day, 0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:03.880 it's the average shopper gets done over. What surprised me 0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:07.840 with this was that it was strepsls strepsels in October. 0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:10.720 That's not even flu season. So it was just ad 0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:13.520 a weird example of how they were caught out with 0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:16.600 the prices going up, up, up, instead of you down, 0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:19.480 down down. But look, I think Albanezy was very very 0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:21.120 fast to jump on this, so that he did, he 0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:23.319 saw it as a life raft. Politically, I think to 0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:25.200 try to prove that. Look, it's their fault and their 0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:27.319 fault nothing to do with us is cost of living. 0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:31.160 That's inflation coming from supermarkets, So I don't think that. 0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:35.600 Yeah, But I mean the difficult is in and around 0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:39.719 the political side of groceries, right is in any two 0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:42.640 year period, I guarantee everything costs more than it did 0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:45.560 two years ago. Right now, the margins by which is 0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:47.319 all the conversation. But as soon as you start sort 0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:50.800 of hitching your political fortunes to bread should be this 0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:52.880 much and milk should be that much, it's not going 0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:54.919 to work. Hence why the housing stuff is the major deal. 0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:56.120 I know you've got a rant on it, but I 0:44:56.200 --> 0:44:58.640 want to get to something else here, which is that 0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:02.480 for all the talking kids and social media and the 0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:05.719 great needs for that to be dealt with, let's deal 0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:09.040 with adults on the internet. All right now, We've all 0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:11.160 got one person in our family. It may well be 0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:14.839 you who right now? Yeah, poor, good stuff? Oh Joe, 0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:16.680 that's good. So I love you to see you look 0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:20.120 and you're on the device while watching at the same time. 0:45:20.160 --> 0:45:25.080 All right now, Joe, we know that people are very 0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:27.359 plugged in, but let's also be honest too that there 0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:29.000 may well be a lot of people watching us who 0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:32.320 now live by themselves whatever different reason, and things like Facebook, 0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:35.839 Instagram they become their way of interacting with the rest 0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:39.280 of the world. What do you think about an adults 0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:42.439 relationship with social media about when it's too much for them? 0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:49.560 Well, my name is Joe and I'm an Interholik Hi Joe. I. 0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:52.200 I quit social media. I quit Twitter and Facebook. 0:45:52.200 --> 0:45:56.000 I can't even get into my old Facebook account occasionally, 0:45:56.840 --> 0:46:00.120 very occasionally just look at Twitter sometimes to get in 0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:02.240 touch with people who I think I have the number, 0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:07.520 but I was communicating through messaging or whatever. But I 0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:09.799 certainly haven't tweeted for years. I have no desire to. 0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:13.600 And the most striking thing is is that you look 0:46:13.640 --> 0:46:16.000 at it after not being sort of in the middle 0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:20.640 of it, and you realize how absolutely utterly cooked the 0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:21.200 joint is. 0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:24.440 It is so off the charts crazy. 0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:27.799 The same things are still like, bugger me if I 0:46:27.880 --> 0:46:31.240 don't see you know, Dan Andrews and Peter Kredlin trending 0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:32.839 every single day, you know, like the. 0:46:32.920 --> 0:46:34.799 Same the same screaming is. 0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:37.920 It is absolutely and just so toxic, and I just go, 0:46:38.080 --> 0:46:40.399 thank God, I'm out there. I do still hang out 0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:42.320 on the Gram because I'm a forty eight year old man. 0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:45.319 I'm having a midlife crisis. But it's so much nice. 0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:47.480 I like, that's just a nice, positive vibe. Everyone to 0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:48.120 supports the thing. 0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:50.200 And the latest. 0:46:50.280 --> 0:46:53.720 But my latest shame and this is what's truly emasculating, 0:46:53.960 --> 0:46:55.520 partly because it's an addiction. 0:46:55.680 --> 0:46:59.880 That is just so early noughties. But I am addicted 0:47:00.120 --> 0:47:01.160 to candy Crash. 0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:02.600 Yeah, you are proper. 0:47:02.280 --> 0:47:04.440 And I am fully and to the point where I 0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:10.760 was flying back from Melbourne on the weekend and the stewardess, 0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:14.239 the attendant said, looked over my shoulder and says, wow, 0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:16.200 just what level are you on? And I said, I 0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:19.880 don't know, seven thousand and something and she goes, wow, 0:47:20.320 --> 0:47:22.440 I'm only on three thousand, and I've been doing it 0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:23.240 for ten years. 0:47:24.560 --> 0:47:26.359 That's oh my god. 0:47:26.480 --> 0:47:29.080 Yeah, Lisa, what is what is your Internet shame that 0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:30.160 you're willing to own up to? 0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:32.399 Oh? 0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:34.080 I was saying, I could all very well sit here 0:47:34.120 --> 0:47:35.399 in trying and dull screen you right. 0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:37.359 Now, if you could please pretty much what. 0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:39.560 My evenings are like. It's really bad, isn't it? So 0:47:39.640 --> 0:47:41.880 many years and news I think, just staying across everything 0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:43.640 all the time. Yeah, it must have been. I'm a 0:47:43.640 --> 0:47:45.400 bit guilty of that. While rousing on the children to 0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:50.000 get off there, Tom, I think, thanks to Joe, Candy 0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:51.239 Crush will go through the roof now. 0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:55.400 Yeah, look, I look, I'll be honest. In the darker moments, 0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:57.400 I will spend way too much time on the reels 0:47:57.480 --> 0:48:00.840 in the middle of the night. As things become increasingly stranger, 0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:02.560 or they either become more rock and roll, or they 0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:05.280 become sort of strange industrial things or lawn mowing. 0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:09.200 Norm McDonald never stops being funny, the same Norm McDonald 0:48:09.280 --> 0:48:10.959 joke one thousand times later. 0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:12.080 It's still funny. 0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:15.520 That's not my fault. Still. My simple point about all 0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:19.160 of this is, like anything else, sometimes just put it 0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:22.640 down and go outside. That's the real world. Look up 0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:25.879 every now and then leave your phone at home when 0:48:25.880 --> 0:48:27.160 you go to the shop. So okay, there's lots of 0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:30.319 other ways to pay, including a wallet for things, So 0:48:30.680 --> 0:48:34.160 just look up. The world is pretty awesome to see. 0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:36.200 This is not the way you should spend your life, 0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:37.920 but you know that. I know that, and hopefully we 0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:39.719 have held all of your attention for the full hour. 0:48:39.840 --> 0:48:42.440 I look forward to the same courtesy being extended to 0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:45.239 the late debate in moments from now here on Sky News. 0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:46.840 Thank you very much for watching. Send me an email 0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:49.400 if you wish safely, of course, Paul. It's gonews dot 0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:53.520 com dot Ada.