WEBVTT - ROUND 20 REVIEW: 'THEY SHOULD START NOW!'. Why the Tigers need to dump Luai 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:08.200 All right, welcome back, everybody to another edition of Code 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:10.840 NRL on a Monday, where we're breaking down the big 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:13.080 stories from the weekend. We're going to look at why 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:16.880 the West Tigers were so bad? Were the Dragons ripped off? 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:19.239 And then really exploring was this blunder round two point 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:21.880 zero again? And what can the NRL do to fix 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:24.320 the bunker? And for many of my haters, they'll be 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:27.160 really excited because fozball is starting to look like fraud ball, 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:30.960 though I deny it. I'm joined by Dean Bulldog, Richie Bulldog. 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:33.200 How I I'm good, Champion, You're very good. I'm very good, 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:35.280 and Fatima Cando, how are you good? 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:35.600 How are you? 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:37.720 I'm good and I'm Alex. By the way, also known 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:40.720 as NRL Soapbox. So a lot's going on this weekend. 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:43.400 Let's look at the West Tigers and why they were 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:47.120 so putrid? Fatima, why were the West Tigers so bad? 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:51.440 I think we just saw sort of a culmination of 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:53.440 what's been going on there the last couple of weeks. 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:57.360 Post game, a couple of player spoke so they weren't 0:00:57.360 --> 0:00:59.960 distracted by the Luais saga. During the week, they prepared 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:04.880 really well but they came out very flat out of 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:08.360 Theo's not a lot of energy given the Bulldogs were 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:09.920 red hot from the start, and I think that had 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:12.440 them on the back foot. But yeah, the body language 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:13.440 wasn't great from them, was it? 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:13.680 Now? 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:16.160 I think the bulldogs what's missing in the stories. The 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:19.400 Bulldogs were fantastic, but the Tigers were absolutely putride. 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:20.000 What did you make of it? 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:22.120 Bulldogs? Yeah, they're poor, they're out of form, they're down 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:26.199 on confidence. This is not the first time they've been bad. 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:29.200 They've won two from eleven. They are a rabble at 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:32.400 the moment. There's no way of sugarcoating what's going on 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:35.880 at Concord other than saying it's a rabbel. We've got 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:41.000 players who are there who are reading headlines about their leader. 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:43.399 Their leader wants to go to P and G and 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:46.040 then the club says we're back him, and they say 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:48.880 we don't want you anymore. We're going round and around here. 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:52.520 And the side that started with five from seven and 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:54.480 all these people were saying this is a year and 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:57.080 I said at the time, I said, wait, keep your 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:59.800 powder dry. They are not a final side. They do 0:01:59.880 --> 0:02:03.040 not have a finals roster. It's crystal clear, and people 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:05.520 didn't want to believe that. That's fine. Since then, they've 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.400 fallen off a cliff. They're gone again. The fifteen year 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:12.040 drought continues, and the club is let's be honest, let's 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:15.080 cut to the chase here, the club is becoming embarrassed. 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:18.000 Like you, well, it's embarrassing. The results are embarrassing. If 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:21.960 you don't make the semifinals for fifteen years, that is embarrassing. 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:24.560 It's definitely embarrassing. I'll concede you on that. 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:26.560 But what about West Tigers Fans will say, we've been 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:28.239 hammered by injuries and that's why. 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:28.960 Everyone's got injuries. 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:30.720 But they've been absolutely slaughtered. 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.680 By everyone's got injuries. And you know what, the good 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:37.160 clubs build rosters that can overcome injuries. I'm not saying 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:39.160 it doesn't play a key role, of course it does. 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:42.280 But the good clubs get by and they've got the 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:46.320 depth and the positional versatility to cover for injuries, and 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:47.320 the Tigers don't have that. 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:49.520 Just on that point, I know we're going to talk 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:52.119 about the Broncos later, but you know, the Broncos were, 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.040 by that assessment, aren't a good club because they were 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:56.919 decimated by injuries and they didn't have the roster and 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:58.720 the depth to sort of keep them in the final 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:01.320 spight even though technically the still live. But just back 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:04.920 on the Tigers, it's got to take its toll. You know, 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:07.320 only twelve months ago, what fifteen months ago now, a 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:10.600 similar situation happened with Lachlan Galvin, you know, and that 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:14.600 sort of derailed this season when Lewis agreed to go 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.919 to p ANDNG. It was I can't remember, with around seven, 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:20.359 around nine, but it was a shark's game where they 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:23.720 also lost Adam Dewey and Samuel Feinnu for a long time. 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:25.799 They were without Appy Corus Sale there for a long 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:28.440 time as well due to suspension. So I really think 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:30.600 because they do like a bit of depth, that injuries 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.720 have hurt them. But the way they sort of feel 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:38.240 that that spark about them, yes they're a confidence team 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:40.520 is just completely gone. How much of that has to 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:43.240 do with Jerome Louai. I guess we'll find out this 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:46.600 week because this week they potentially without Adam Dewey and Latu. 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:50.280 That's where I want to know, is it Jerome Lewai? 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:53.440 And if it is Jerome Lewai, who's following him, because 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:55.160 do you want to follow a bloke who wants to 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:55.800 leave your club? 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:59.040 Well, it's easy, like okay, So Jerome Lewi demands attention 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:02.600 and he that's just who he is. He's an outspoken personality. 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:04.520 I think when you look I looked at the weekend, 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:06.400 he looked like a frustrated leader. He's meant to be 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:09.800 the chief enthusiast officer of the chief energy officer, and 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:12.240 you could see him chastising the players. So I don't 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:14.080 think it's so much about the players are off him. 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:16.640 I think Leui's off the situation. Like he was so 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:19.640 frustrated in that game. There were some people, even Bulldogs, 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:21.880 that were saying maybe the West Tigers should drop Lewis 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:24.239 it's not working. Well, I did a piece this morning 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.120 in Bulldog's Bite and I said, I don't know if 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:27.600 for Tim you did something on the Tigers as well, 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.240 So we'll come back to you in a moment. What 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:32.880 I said is the last four games they've scored twenty 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:36.839 two points. So if Jerome's key role is to ignite 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:38.599 that attack, it ain't working. 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:41.600 Yep. That's an average of just over five points a game. 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:47.880 So apart from the off field distractions someone in that club, 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.440 and I eat, let's basically say it's Jerome because he's 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:52.960 their key Manah, he's their million dollar player. He's not 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:56.400 doing his job because that side is stagnant and pedestrian. 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:56.880 Yep. 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.280 Yeah, well that is a good point because of all 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:01.400 the injuries that have necessarily had a lot of opportunity 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:05.360 with their first choice swine. They had that against Cannipy 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:09.960 and they weren't able to fire a shot. What does 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:13.320 Benji do with Jerome Lewai? Does he start looking to 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:16.640 the future now? I mean when Jerome addressed the media, 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:19.320 he said himself like he's had that discussion with Benji 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:21.240 and if it gets to the point where Benji feels 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.120 like he's no longer the guy for the job, like 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:25.679 he's happy for Benji to go with those young guys, 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:27.720 it's not going to be this week because, like I said, 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:29.680 Dewey and latsu Fa it looks like they're going to 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.919 be suspended. This is the week though, for Jerome to 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.560 answer that question like is he the guy that people 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.200 want to follow? This is going to be the week 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.599 where he sort of you know, he's got no option 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:42.839 but to find a way to gather a nice this group, 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:46.080 and you know, I do agree looking at Lui and 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:49.200 how frustrated he is that he's probably just off the 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:50.240 situation as a whole. 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:53.080 Alex Twiles little Yeah, I love that. 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:55.000 That was awesome, Jush. 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:57.760 Current and Jamn seven towards the end. I mean, he's 0:05:57.800 --> 0:05:58.960 a passionate guy, Tini, but. 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:00.640 You don't you don't see that ever level. 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:04.799 Of frustration, and Benjie said that it probably epitomizes exactly 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:06.839 what the club is going through. There's this element of 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.480 frustration and if they can't shake it, things are about 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:10.200 to get worse for them. 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:15.800 Well, the Tigers, they wanted to push ahead without Jerome. Correct, yeah, 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:20.279 next you can go. Yeah, so tomorrow is now today 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.400 for the Tigers. If that's their theory, then let's start now, 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.120 let's start now, bring some young I think it's crazy 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.640 to Jerome Louis what you're saying about the injuries because 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:31.200 they can't do it this weekend. But I'm thinking, is 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:32.000 that the way forward? 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.960 I think it's crazy. I think he should get more scrutiny. 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:37.200 But there's another twelve players on the pitch that weren't 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:39.840 putting in the effort. They were terrible in that first half. 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:43.240 So Jerome definitely has to sholder some responsibility. But those 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:45.279 players like that's the issue with the Tigers right now, 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:47.800 not just Jerome Lewi. It's the team's not putting in 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:49.880 the effort. They're letting their coach down. All right, let's 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:52.000 move on from the abysmal West Tigers and talk about 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:55.240 how impressive the Bulldogs were. I have been saying, and 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:58.120 thousands of Bulldogs have been saying, this is the spine 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:02.040 that they should have Seano Sullivan game managing it, kicking 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:04.400 two forty twenties I think was all over the place, 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:08.120 freed up Galvin to actually just play creative, attacking footy. 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:10.800 This is the spine that Sialdo should have gone with 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:13.560 at the start of the season, because sometimes the boring 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:15.400 choice is the right choice for team. 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:16.960 What did you make of the Bulldog spine? 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:19.200 I don't think it was a boring choice. Look at 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:22.880 how they played their attack. It was probably the most 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:26.920 exciting they've looked all seasons. So yeah, I made a 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.920 point of it last week that when short O'Sullivan came 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:33.760 on for Stephen Crichton, he set up straightened their attacks 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:35.600 and set up two tries right at the death there. 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:38.560 And what I found like worked really well for them 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:43.040 was he and Galvin just seemed to understand what the 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:44.920 other was doing. They would switch in and out of 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:48.040 first receiver. I mean to me that his second footy 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.120 twenty was far more impressive than the first one because 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:51.960 he noticed that his team was on the back foot, 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:54.200 needed to get them out of trouble the way he 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.640 straightens the attack and opens space up for their edges. 0:07:57.680 --> 0:07:58.080 And now that the. 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:02.440 Preston back kick ours back as well. Yeah, and Burton, 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:07.000 Burton's been playing really worse. I know he thinks he's 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.880 a five eight moving forward, but in that team, his 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:12.280 best position at the moment is probably a center. The 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:16.040 question is, because Sero has been experimenting all season, and 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:18.600 I'll put it to you, Bulldog, does he go back 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:22.360 to his critter experiment, which he seemed to really champion, 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:24.400 or does he stick with sure No Sullivan. 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.880 I don't know the answer, but my opinion would be 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:29.680 he sticks with Ose Sullivan. I think it worked. 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:30.720 He's got to do it, mate. 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:35.319 He's been mucking around this spine from this point last year. 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:37.840 He's been doing for twelve months. Yeah, and I get 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:39.760 Sero doing it. He's trying to find the right combination. 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:42.560 Maybe he's done it, maybe he's finally found he's a 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:45.880 pure half. O'Sullivan. He's not elite, he's not let's not 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:49.080 He's not going to be a million bucks a year player, 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:51.760 but he's a pure half. He kicks well, as Fatima says, 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:54.559 he struts up the attack. Galvin played better with him 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:57.360 in the solid but with Critter back, I would put 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:00.280 Critter back to the centers. I leave Burton and I 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.640 think Tuala is the one to probably miss out. Whether 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:05.160 he goes out onto the wing to be confirmed, But 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:09.520 I think after all the changes, all the experimentation, all 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:13.960 the condemnation, I think maybe Soirello's finally found the harves 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:15.280 combination to take him into the final. 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:18.920 Sean O'Sullivan definitely played half back in that game. We're agreed. 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:19.840 He wasn't playing six. 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:23.320 So why are the Bulldogs continuing to put seven on 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:25.040 Galvin's back? Do you think it's a pride thing? 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:25.240 Now? 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.520 I don't know whether it's a pride thing. I just 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:30.640 don't think they found or they didn't think they had 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:34.240 found a pure seven to take over from Galvin. Yeah, yeah, 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.000 and look a lot of people are critical of Seano 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:39.480 Sullom because he's sure he's what would you say, he's 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:42.480 not a makeshift play. That's probably unfair, but yeah, he's 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:44.920 not a first choice pick every week, is he? But 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:48.280 now yeah he should be. Yeah, he's been given the chance, 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:50.040 he's taken it. If you're going to give him Bake 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:52.480 a chance and he performs, well, then you've got to 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:53.200 support him. 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:53.199 You know. 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:56.080 I think Bulldogs fans will be frustrated because they've had 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:58.880 Seaun O'Sullivan available to them all year they needed. He 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:00.840 isn't elite, That's why I say he's boring. He's not 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.360 a star. He's meant to be in reserve grade and 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:06.240 back up. But they didn't have a proper game managing halfback, 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:08.840 which is what they needed. And O'Sullivan's fantastic. He may 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:11.560 not be elite, but he's unbelievable at following the game 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:13.920 plan that the coach gives him, which in his postmatch 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:15.880 interview you talked about that we did video on. This 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:18.520 is incredibly intelligent. Joey John's back in the day he 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:21.040 said he was the smartest footballery's seen. So this is 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:24.120 not some schmuck that the Bulldogs have in reserve grade. 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:25.640 This is a guy who could really help them. 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:26.040 Yeah. 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:28.400 And if he's the guy that brings the best out 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:30.920 of Lochland Galvin and allows him to play that sort 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:35.800 of instinctive style that we that everyone thinks Lochland Galvin is, 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:38.760 then yeah, he's got to be the guy that goes there. 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:41.640 But again, going back into the Pride question, is Galvin 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:43.440 still wearing the number seven jumper out of Pride? 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:43.720 Yeah? 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:44.520 Maybe a little bit. 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:48.360 Yeah, I'm begging cam Serroaldo please keep Sean o' sullivan 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:50.600 playing half back and just switch the numbers. It's okay 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:52.560 to admit you got it wrong. The Bulldogs looks so 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:54.400 much better when Seawan oh sullivan's playing half back. 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:57.440 It's not even wrong. So he didn't fish. It's not wrong, 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:01.520 per se. It's experimenting, try the right combination. I'm with you, 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:04.600 I change it, but it's a matter of saying I 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:08.160 got it wrong. But my experiment here, there and everywhere, 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:10.680 this is what we're finally come down to. So I 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:12.760 don't know what it's be getting wrong, but I think 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.680 it's about I would totally let's change it and let's 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:16.120 stick with it. 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.959 I would totally concede on that, except Saldo has been saying, no, 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.080 this is our spine. He hasn't said, hey, we're on 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:24.640 a twenty four month experiment experimentation journey. He's kind of gone, no, 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.040 Galvin is our seven. And then as time has gone on, 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:29.560 there's the realization he's just an excellent number six. 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.920 That's my thought. Well, Broncos thought this day would never come. 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:37.400 After I think eight consecutive losses, Brisbane Broncos, that defending 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:41.559 champions have finally won a game, one that no one 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:43.880 expected that they would win. They showed up put in 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:47.360 maximum effort for Tima. Can the Broncos make the eighth? 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:52.000 Well, watching them play, they almost had shades of the 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.400 Broncos that went on that surge at the end of 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:58.200 last year. But they have a really, really tough run 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:02.840 and I think they've left it too late. In their defense, 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:05.400 they were close to full strength. I think there were 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:08.199 a couple of guys still missing. But I think it 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:11.320 showed really that they have really really been hurt this year. 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:13.280 Their title defense has been hurt by the fact that 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:16.480 they've had significant injuries pretty much a year. 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:20.400 But do you think they can make it? The run's 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:20.840 too hard. 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:23.040 But then again, who knows if they come out and 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:26.079 play the chip on their shoulder, because they absolutely did 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:27.920 come out and play with the chip on their shoulder, 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:29.840 and I don't know whether they lifted or found that 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:33.640 extra year because Penrith was the opposition incredible scalp by 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.800 the way, Yeah, amazing, you know, after going so horribly wrong. 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:38.840 I just think they're run. They've left it too late 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:39.680 and their runs too hard. 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:40.000 Yeah. 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.680 And the other key difference is that Reese Walsh blitzed 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:45.560 it like he's been missing in action for a few months. 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:47.200 I reckon if he played like that and was playing 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:49.000 for Queens and they would have won three nil. It 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:52.560 was back to twenty twenty five Grand Final run Reese Welsh. 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:56.000 He was electric everywhere, dominating one of the best teams 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:57.480 in the comp bo. 0:12:57.520 --> 0:12:59.839 Do you think the Broncos can make it? No? 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:02.160 No, in a word, yeah, no, okay, and then follow 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:04.360 up the team is right, they've left it too late 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:06.960 to go win every game. They're on eighteen points. Yeah, 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:09.319 the Cowboys won twenty four and eighth position, so they're 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:14.520 still six points outside. Can they do it again? Skill wise? Possibly? 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:16.480 But I just don't think because you've done it one year, 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:18.200 it gives you can't blunt I think you can do 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:20.200 it the next year. It's too hard regularly, it's too 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.719 hard to be streaming together six seven, eight wins. It 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.560 was a gentle reminder on two fronts of how good 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:28.199 they are, and it's also a gentle reminder of how 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:30.920 they've fluffed their lines this year because that side that 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:34.680 we saw beat the Panthers should be playing finals footy. 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:35.600 They definitely should be. 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.000 I also think it does show there's been a lot 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:40.400 of noise about Michael Maguire, that he's perhaps lost the 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.359 dressing room, that the boys aren't playing for him. That absolutely, 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:45.760 in the past month, I feel like it's true. That's 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.760 a team that's playing for their coach, their high maximum effort, 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:52.199 they're showing up, they're in the collision, they're giving them everything, 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:55.000 and they piped a team that they should never have beaten, 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.200 especially when they're on an eight game skid, Bulldog. Do 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:00.520 you think this silence is the noise around Maguire? 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:06.319 Absolutely? I think it should should I think it should 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:09.080 and what will happen probably two different things. Madge, wherever 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:11.920 he goes as a human headline, he can't escape it Madge, 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:15.160 it's under the part before round one this year, outreached, 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:17.080 he lost the World Club Challenge and ben Terre walks 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.120 out and he's already on the skids out of the Joy. 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:23.240 He's a defending Premiere coach. So no matter what Madge does, 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:25.320 there always going to be critics out there and that's fine. 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:28.320 But look, he'll be there next year as there's no 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:30.640 doubt in my mind that Madge will start the year. 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:33.560 Whether he finishes the year, I guess it's like any 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.440 professional sporting organization. It will come down to results. But 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:38.760 he's got surely he's got the runs on the board 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.200 from last year. To have a year where they don't 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.760 make the finals and all sits well as opposed to 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:45.280 going let's get the noose. 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:46.960 Out and get him out of the Joy. Yeah, it's ridiculous. 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:48.720 It's even a topic of conversation, but it is a 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:51.040 lot of people have been calling for his head. Let's 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.760 move on to the Panthers. Should Panthers fans now be worried? 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:56.440 I think it's three losses out of their past four. 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:58.760 They've lost to three teams that when they played them 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:01.160 were outside of the eighth. Is there any is there 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:02.480 any concern here for Panthers fans. 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:07.520 For Teama, oh, I had to double check the fact 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:10.560 that it had been three from four losses. It's sort 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:12.680 of creeped up, I think on most fans because they've 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:16.120 been so dominant for so long this year. No, I 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:19.880 think I still think it's it's them and Daylight Second. 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:21.880 To be honest, there's probably a couple of other clubs 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:23.800 that are going under the raider a little bit like Crenula, 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:26.160 though I don't know whether Cronulla had what it takes 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:29.400 to be a Grand finalist. But No, I think once 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:32.360 their full strength and once they get to that point 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.160 the end of the season, I think they'll be fine. 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:35.920 It goes to show how I think there's a muscle 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:36.560 memory there for them. 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:38.000 Yeah, like they just know how to do it, and 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:39.840 they know they often do this in the middle of 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.200 the season. They kind of drop games or they don't 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:43.440 they don't play their full squad. 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:44.720 Origin obviously affects them. 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.200 It goes to show how unbelievable they are as a team, 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:49.160 that they're one of the least for one of the 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:51.280 teams in the worst Formula comp right now, and no 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:53.520 one's questioning can Panthers. 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:57.000 Do it no problem whatsoever with Penrith losing a couple 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.280 of games. It happens during a year sometimes, you know what, 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:01.360 it's not a bad thing just to pull back the 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:04.000 jets for a couple of weeks and then they'll go again. 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:05.880 We know what they can do, we know how they 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:06.920 can find another level. 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:09.720 I think it's a traffic I think they're just deceiving 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:10.200 the commentary. 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:13.200 I'm a bit like I think before this run of 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:17.560 losses the gap between Penrith and the closer side was 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:20.080 as big as it's been in their tenure. 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:21.320 Yeah, I think they. 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.160 Are clearly ahead of the rest. If you want to 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:25.480 go through and look, okay, Penrieth from the Grand Final 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.840 right around that, who do they play? There's not that 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:32.680 many options. The Roosters will be close, the Warriors. I'm 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:34.680 still yet to be convinced and win a Grand Final. 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:37.520 Darks are emerging, but we know Corla do in September. 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:44.080 That's lose. There's other clubs sort of sniffing around, but 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:49.720 I'm not convinced that there's a horde of teams coming 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:50.480 to get the Panthers. 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:50.800 Yeah. 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:52.560 Well, if you'd asked me, a couple of weeks ago 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:56.600 would have said the Dolphins. But sixty six points. I 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.440 mean it was incredible bounce back on the weekend. But yeah, 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.600 it's really hard to pick it. I worry about the Warriors, 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:05.720 whether they might run out of steam, you know, But 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.160 my gut feeling is it might be the Warriors. 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:10.840 I think it's tough for the Warriors right because they've 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:14.080 been a perennially failing club that no one's believing them 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:14.440 right now. 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:15.359 But what else can they do? 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:18.119 They're winning games, they're playing great footy, they've been hammard 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:18.639 by injury. 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:20.680 They get two finals. They were if they got that 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:22.960 top two fifinishes, that's right, I go bang at Hard. 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:24.760 But they win that, then they in the primin final 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.000 back at Hard. You know the side that Penrith would 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:29.119 fear most, Yeah, the Broncos. 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:31.480 Yeah they were. They're not going to do that. 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:33.879