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Speaker 1: On sky Lives Ostrodia.

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Speaker 2: This is the Wider Panalty Show.

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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Reader Panety Show. Coming

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Speaker 3: up tonight. The shockwaves from the Victorian by elections continue,

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Speaker 3: with Federal Labor warning their big counterparts to stop the

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Speaker 3: mad spending on the suburban rail loob Well Prime Minister

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Speaker 3: and the Albanez is lobbing securate tariff back down from

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Speaker 3: President Trump. Will discuss that with Kosher Gata transactivists intensify

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Speaker 3: their campaign against the Queensland government. Stephney Bastian will be

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Speaker 3: with you shortly discuss, and President Trump gives mass a

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Speaker 3: new deadline to release all the hostages or to cease

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Speaker 3: fires off. Josh Hammer will join me with the latest

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Speaker 3: from the US later in the hour, and Lefty's Losing

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Speaker 3: It features this deranged Karen with a rather unique bit

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Speaker 3: of Super Bowl analysis.

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Speaker 4: The reason why we get it went because the Trump

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Speaker 4: was at the guys.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, goddamnit.

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Speaker 3: Trump should. But first joining me now is News Corps

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Speaker 3: senior writer Patrick Carl and Patrick, let's start with Federal Labor.

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Speaker 3: The MPs in Victoria are not happy. They've had a

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Speaker 3: serious wake up call following the seventeen percent swing against

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Speaker 3: the state labor government in Werribee, a traditional labor heartland seat.

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Speaker 3: That's caused them to demand that Premierson too Alan stopped

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Speaker 3: blackmailing the federal government into providing extra funding for the

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Speaker 3: suburban rail loop project. They say that the Allen government

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Speaker 3: should instead focus on other projects that voters actually want.

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Speaker 3: It's a novel idea Patrick the Victorian by election on

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Speaker 3: the weekend, Well, there were two. There was one in Paran,

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Speaker 3: one in werribe It certainly sent shock waves through the

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Speaker 3: federal ranks, Labor and the Greeks.

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Speaker 2: Look, I don't think those results were surprising at all.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Allen Government's been on the nose for

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Speaker 2: a long time. We've got to wait until twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of people metaphorically toiling their

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Speaker 2: baseball bat's just waiting for November twenty twenty six to

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Speaker 2: try and change the government. Here at a state level,

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Speaker 2: and Victoria at a federal level is a battleground state

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Speaker 2: for the first time probably since about going back to

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Speaker 2: Bob Hawk a long time ago. There's six or seven

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Speaker 2: seats that are really going to matter. The suburban rail

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Speaker 2: loop is very unpopular with Victorians. It's deepening our debt.

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Speaker 2: Nobody really understands why we're getting it, and federal later

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Speaker 2: understandably they want to push projects that people actually want

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Speaker 2: and need, such as the airport rail link.

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Speaker 3: Well, they don't want to keep paying for something that

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Speaker 3: is just seems to be a bottomless pit. Is what

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Speaker 3: is the point of this suburban rail loop project, because

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Speaker 3: like you said, it's not particularly popular yet the Dan

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Speaker 3: Andrews government and now they're just into Alan government and

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Speaker 3: are inflexible about it, and they have taken some shots

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Speaker 3: and refused to abandon it.

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Speaker 2: Look after. I shouldn't say half, but many members of

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Speaker 2: the cabinet, the state cabinet, the Deputy Premier doesn't seem

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Speaker 2: very keen on the suburban rail loop. It's going to

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Speaker 2: push the debt much further. We are the most bankrupt

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Speaker 2: state in the country by mine. We are holding back

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Speaker 2: the rest of the country at the moment. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: make sense, and it's a bit like the Commonwealth Games

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Speaker 2: where we sort of spent more than half a billion

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Speaker 2: dollars on something that didn't happen. It seemed like a

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Speaker 2: good idea when it was announced, but we don't finish

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Speaker 2: things in Victoria.

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Speaker 3: This is the thing with a suburban rail loop. I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure it was even a good idea yet when

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Speaker 3: it was announced, it's never seemed to have had a

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Speaker 3: solid business case. It's always seemed to be something that

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Speaker 3: has been a bit of a mystery. We're wondering why

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Speaker 3: are we doing this? Why are we're sending the state

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Speaker 3: into further debt. Now let's move on to Federal Sports

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Speaker 3: Minister Anika Wells, who's joined Senatility a flaw in siding

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Speaker 3: with Sam Kerr as she faces court in London. Here's

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Speaker 3: what Anika Wells had to say yesterday.

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Speaker 6: I think it has been a rocky road for Sam

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Speaker 6: and her partner. The more we find out about that incident,

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Speaker 6: I think the more you can understand why they've acted

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Speaker 6: the way that they have. But being an explayer myself,

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Speaker 6: I would never seek to interfere or comment on a

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Speaker 6: court trial process whilst it's in action. But I think

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Speaker 6: Australia certainly has Sam certainly has Australia.

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Speaker 3: Behind her Patrick. I don't think this is a great look,

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Speaker 3: particularly when you watch the footage of Sam Kerr unleashing.

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Speaker 2: They wouldn't do that. You should have spoken to.

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Speaker 1: Thee Honestly, we are stupid and white.

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Speaker 3: Yes, some commentary there that was colorful, to say the least.

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Speaker 3: Why do we have politicians? Olivia Thoughte we can understand.

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Speaker 3: I mean, she's just rogue, but what would Annaka well

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Speaker 2: Look, I find that strange this has when playing out

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Speaker 2: for more than a week. We keep seeing that footage

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Speaker 2: you just played. Look it's not a Rosa Parks Montgomery

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Speaker 2: bus moment. This is not going to change the world.

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Speaker 2: Whatever the judgment in this case, it's not going to

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Speaker 2: the world is not going to think that Sam Kerr

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Speaker 2: is racist on some fundamental level. If she doesn't. If

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Speaker 2: the police win, then you know, I'm sure that police

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Speaker 2: officer will get over what she said that night in

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Speaker 2: a way. And you get this grand standing, and that's

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Speaker 2: what frustrates me. You get the lydia thorpes and you

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Speaker 2: get federal ministers actually talking to these I think Sam

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Speaker 2: kerk for what it's worth, I don't think most people

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Speaker 2: think she's racist, but that attitude did come from a

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Speaker 2: place that a lot of Australians would object to. I

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Speaker 2: don't think she's an unquestioned sporting superstar that she was.

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Speaker 3: And a lot of people would also object to the

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Speaker 3: fact that a lot of these sporting stars are very

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Speaker 3: quick to play the victim, very quick to push the

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Speaker 3: racial card. And if this was happening with any sporting star,

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Speaker 3: and it was a matter of saying substituting the word

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Speaker 3: black for white, then it would be very different. There

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Speaker 3: would be no more endorsements, there would be no more

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Speaker 3: Australian captaincy, there would probably be no more place on

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Speaker 3: the Australian team. The consequences would be dramatically worse. And

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Speaker 3: I think again a lot of Australians can see the

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Speaker 3: hypocrisy there. Now let's talk about Minister for Housing and

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Speaker 3: Homelessness Clara O'Neill. She's unleashed more content on Instagram. I

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Speaker 3: don't know whether she wants to become some sort of

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Speaker 3: an insta influencer.

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Speaker 5: I have a look at this output.

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Speaker 3: I mean, why, just why, who's advising them to do this.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they've probably got some social media experts or

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Speaker 3: somebody who thinks this is a way to communicate to

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Speaker 3: younger voters. But I just can't see that as been

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Speaker 2: No, look, when you get to a certain age you

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Speaker 2: sort of you learn things and you learn not to

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Speaker 2: sort of post things on social media unless genuinely funny.

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Speaker 2: I'm of that age, so I don't post any things

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Speaker 2: on social media that's sort of faintly trivializing of a

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Speaker 3: Exactly. That's the thing. Also, it's actually cheapening something that

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Speaker 3: your government's supposed to be proud of, and I just

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Speaker 3: don't know, I cannot understand. I'm sure they're rusted on

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Speaker 3: feminists who never think of voting anything other than greens

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Speaker 3: or labor or perhaps tills may enjoy that, but it

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Speaker 3: certainly doesn't have broad appeal.

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Speaker 2: No, I think it's polarizing potentially. We've been talking about

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Speaker 2: women's health for decades, as we should have been. We

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Speaker 2: should be proud of what we've done. It's not this

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Speaker 2: sort of breakthrough moment. It's not down watching a Grand

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Speaker 3: It's a breakthrough popular meme that's kind of doing the

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Speaker 3: rounds at the moment, and that's what they seem to

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Speaker 3: be doing. They're taking it and trying to apply it

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Speaker 3: to federal politics, and more often than not, it misses

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Speaker 3: the mark. Now, let's talk quickly about the cease fire

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Speaker 3: between Israel and her Mass. I'm going to be talking

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Speaker 3: to Josh Hammer later in the program, but it is

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Speaker 3: increasingly on shaky grand as her Maas says. It is

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Speaker 3: delaying the release of captives held in Gaza, the hostages

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Speaker 3: they've held for more than a year. The Israeli government

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Speaker 3: is raising the alert level of its military and ordering

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Speaker 3: it to be ready for any possible scenario. Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: is also hit out at her Mass.

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Speaker 7: I suppose I'm concerned if all of the hostages are

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Speaker 7: return by Saturday at twelve o'clock, I think it's an

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Speaker 7: appropriate time. I would say, cancel it, and all bets

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Speaker 7: are off and let hell break out, all of them,

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Speaker 7: not in drips and drabs, not two and one and

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Speaker 7: three and four and two. All hell is going to

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Speaker 7: break out. And I don't think they're going to do it.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of them are dead.

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Speaker 3: All hell is going to break loose. I think the

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Speaker 3: Israeli government Benjamin Nettina, who knows that Trump isn't going

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Speaker 3: to stand in his way if he wants to eliminate

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Speaker 3: a mass. The Biden administration had a very different attitude.

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Speaker 3: How do you see this progressing? We're in a perilous

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Speaker 2: Look, it's been a fragile process, this whole ceasefire, hasn't it.

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Speaker 2: And Donald Trump has come in over the top and

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Speaker 2: sort of said a lot of common sense things, I

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Speaker 2: would argue. I mean, the hostage has just got lost

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Speaker 2: in the rhetoric in Australia, in all the pro Palestine

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Speaker 2: activism for so long, and now we're hearing their stories.

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Speaker 2: They are dreadful stories about sort of hung upside down

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Speaker 2: in chains, in cages. Yeah, finding out that their loved

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Speaker 2: ones are dead. These are terrible stories. And this was

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Speaker 2: a deal. It was always going to be a fragile

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Speaker 2: deal made by a terrorist organization. So I think the

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Speaker 2: larks of Donald Trump sort of coming in over the

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Speaker 2: top may actually not be a bad thing. And then

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Speaker 2: it actually progresses things, actually pushes things forward.

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Speaker 3: And he's speaking to them in terms they understand. He's

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Speaker 3: not trying to group up, hug them into submission. He's

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Speaker 3: saying he's going to unleash hell. And I think these

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Speaker 3: terrorists that they respond to language like that. We'll see

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Speaker 3: what happens next. But he also made the point that

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Speaker 3: the last lot of hostages released, the three men who

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Speaker 3: were starved. Obviously he likened it two Holocaust survivors that

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Speaker 3: the seeds there, and I think they were powerful statements

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Speaker 3: as well, Patrick Carl and thank you so much for

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Speaker 3: your time tonight. Thanks very Joining me now is Women's

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Speaker 3: Forum Australia's head of advocacy, Stephanie Bastian. Stephanie Insland government's

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Speaker 3: decision to pause so called gender firming hormone treatments for

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Speaker 3: children and launch a review into gender treatments has sparked

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Speaker 3: a fresh offensive from the Australian Professional Association for trans Health,

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Speaker 3: called Project four nine to one. OSPATH claims that the

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Speaker 3: Queensland ban is contrary to the current best evidence based

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Speaker 3: guidelines and represents political interference in healthcare. Can I please

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Speaker 3: get your reaction there, Stephanie.

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Speaker 1: Log What we're seeing is activist organizations ignoring the evidence,

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Speaker 1: not even wanting a review into the evidence, and they're

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Speaker 1: now trying to fundraise and do their own thing. I

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Speaker 1: mean this week we saw the doctor who was running

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Speaker 1: the Canned Gender Clinic has now moved to Melbourne and.

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Speaker 4: Is prescribing puberty blockers via telehealth.

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Speaker 1: According to the Guardian, a forty minute consultation is all

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Speaker 1: it's taking. So these organizations actually need to be investigated

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Speaker 1: and the government funding needs to be pulled if they're

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Speaker 1: received them.

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Speaker 3: Now we've had Health Minister Mark Butler come under fire

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Speaker 3: for his response to Peter Dutton's comments about protecting women's sport.

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Speaker 3: Let's remind ourselves what the opposition leader had to say

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Speaker 3: last week in his interview with Peter Kredlin.

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Speaker 8: I just don't believe in discriminating against anyone, not on

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Speaker 8: the basis of anything. And for young girls not to

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Speaker 8: be able to achieve their Olympic dream, their pathway to

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Speaker 3: You mentioned section forty two of the Sex Discrimination Act,

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Speaker 3: Now before you go. Pauline Hanson yesterday moved a motion

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Speaker 4: It outlines a number of issues it calls to review.

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Speaker 1: The harm done to people like detransitioners, and the whole

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Speaker 4: This is not going to go away. This is going

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Speaker 3: Well. This is just the biggest slam dunk imaginable politically,

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Speaker 1: Look, I think there are a key group of activists

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Speaker 4: Political fallout, but it's just not good enough. The evidence

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Speaker 1: Thirteen countries have now wound back puberty blockers, cross sex womans,

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Speaker 1: Twenty six US states have done the same, and of

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Speaker 1: The tide has turned globally on this. There are doctors

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Speaker 3: Stephanie Bastian, thanks for your time tonight to come Lefty's

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Speaker 3: and patient Gator joins me next welcome back. Now it's

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Speaker 3: time for Lefti's losing it and we can't go a

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Speaker 3: the ladies of the view. Today it's Anna Navarro's turn,

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Speaker 3: and she was talking about the super Bowl of all things,

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Speaker 3: but as usual, she was obsessed with two things, Donald

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Speaker 3: know I don't do sports.

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Speaker 10: You know, I don't do football, so I wasn't watching

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Speaker 3: But listen, I.

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Speaker 10: Think today Donald Trump is going to sign an executive

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Speaker 3: And what is she based this delusional fantasy on. She

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Speaker 11: Bring the highest to pet.

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Speaker 3: I was telling maybe in an executive order to ban

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Speaker 3: halftime shows. That that may be an idea. But let's

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Speaker 3: get back to Ana Navarro's genius analysis.

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Speaker 10: Talking about whether the NFL was capitulating to Trump by

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Speaker 3: Racism from the and so on.

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Speaker 10: Boy did they not capitulate to Trump? When I saw

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Speaker 10: Samuel L. Jackson, Yeah, rested does a black uncles town

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Speaker 10: who then had like an entire formation of all black

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Speaker 3: Now, let's be honest. Kendrick Lamar's performance was pretty mid.

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Speaker 12: As the kids say, Ernest Dowe, don't you care what

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Speaker 12: they would be fashion out right now?

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Speaker 13: We're hitting for me hit It wouldn't check with these

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Speaker 7: Just wait and seem to.

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Speaker 3: Be Yep, it was pretty mediocre, particularly when we are

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl halftime shows. But Ken Trick Lamar actually didn't

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Speaker 3: politicize the fourteen minute performance other than to take at Drake.

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Speaker 3: There were no anti Trump, anti Maga, anti America messages.

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Speaker 3: Once Anna and the ladies of the view figure that out,

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Speaker 3: they're going to be pretty miserable. But the NFL did

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Speaker 3: try to politicize the event by running this ridiculous commercial

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Speaker 13: Let's settle this once and for all.

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Speaker 12: Your best guy, girl, whatever versus our best guy, the Brad.

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Speaker 13: Right, Brad, I'm brown. I can read all of them.

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Speaker 13: That's what I've thought about.

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Speaker 3: These are the simpletons who pretend to be pro women,

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Speaker 3: but they throw women under the bus by supporting men

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Speaker 3: the bus. Here is a Nike, painfully woke, a Nike

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Speaker 3: running an ad suggesting the real threat to women's sport

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Speaker 3: is sexism. Reminder, this is the same Nike that used

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Speaker 3: Dylan Mulvainy as an ambassador. But please tell me how

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Speaker 3: much you support girls and women's sport. You can't be emotional.

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Speaker 3: So be emotional. You can't take credit, you can't speak up,

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Speaker 3: can't be so ambition fun, I can't stand out. Whatever

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Speaker 3: you do, you can't win. Now, let's hear from this

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Speaker 3: totally rational woman, probably a fan of the view, who

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Speaker 3: blames President Donald Trump for her team losing yesterday.

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Speaker 14: And the reason why we did it win because the

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Speaker 14: Trump was at the guys.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yay, goddamnit, and we'll have plenty more lefties losing it.

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Speaker 3: Content with my next guest, Guy News contributor Kosher Gata Kosher.

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Speaker 3: We will get to that phone call between Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: and Anthony Albanezi shortly, but let's start with the USAID scandal.

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Speaker 3: If you want to know why the left is so

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Speaker 3: committed to this cause, it's not that they care about

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Speaker 3: feeding the IMPOVERI store giving medicines to the Sikh. Those

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Speaker 3: programs will continue. It's because they found a way to

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Speaker 3: use taxpayers money to push their insane, far left agenda.

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Speaker 3: Here is Trump advisor Steven Miller explaining.

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Speaker 15: The USAID was a slush fund, first of all, for

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Speaker 15: left wing projects around the globe, like gender surgeries around

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Speaker 15: the world, diversity equin inclusion policies, crazy Green New Deal

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Speaker 15: climate scams. It was funding an army of left wing activists.

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Speaker 15: These NGOs, non governmental organizations, They get billions and billions

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Speaker 15: Corporate America Free Sattle for example, at taxpayer expends millions

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Speaker 15: power structure plus left wing media. It wasn't organic, it

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Speaker 15: that is why they are screaming and screeching so loud. Now,

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Speaker 15: it's because President Trump is cutting off the slush fund

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Speaker 3: And that's the biggest point there, Kosher. These movements were

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Speaker 14: Yes, it has been an illuminating couple of weeks, to

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Speaker 14: say the least. We've always known that the US is

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Speaker 14: Now we know that beyond the spending, it is also

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Speaker 14: these sort of insidious, nefarious actions that have created this

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Speaker 14: the way, the proprietors of these NGOs enrich themselves along

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Speaker 14: which is effectively what he was seeing these issues domestically

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Speaker 3: Into incredible amounts of hoodspa here, using taxpayers money to

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Speaker 3: There's been very little transparency up until now. Now Politico

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Speaker 14: Yes, the public broadcasters. That's been a long standing debate

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Speaker 14: around the world. Why do taxpyers fund media for political news?

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Speaker 14: By definition should be objective and now this is again

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Speaker 14: insidious where these are for profit corporations. It's a little

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Speaker 14: bit from Usaaid, but a lot of it is just

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Speaker 14: straight up subscriptions to their enterprise plan. Political Pose pro

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Speaker 14: is the name of the plan, and it's something like

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Speaker 14: eight to eleven thousand dollars a subscription, and it's just

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Speaker 14: running rampant where there's multiple subscriptions across different agencies like

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Speaker 14: the Department of Interior or HHS or others that are

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Speaker 14: subscribing to this data. And I would add those same

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Speaker 14: people in their private lives. I would not be surprised

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Speaker 14: if they share Netflix passwords with each other.

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Speaker 4: But here they're.

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Speaker 14: Subscribing to multiple five figure subscription deals, which adds up

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Speaker 14: to the tune of eight billion dollars for again, an

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Speaker 14: organization that has a very clear political agenda. Trump shut

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Speaker 14: that off and many others like Political which is fascinating

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Speaker 14: to see amount of impact he's having in just a

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Speaker 14: couple of short weeks.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's hard to keep up with the pace. This

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Speaker 3: is one of the consequences of just implementing a raft

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Speaker 3: to keep up with everything that's happening. Let's turn our

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Speaker 3: attention to tariffs on Australian still and Aliminium. The Prime

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Speaker 3: Minister has had a conversation with President Trump. This is

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Speaker 3: what Anthony Albaneasi had to say earlier today.

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Speaker 12: So it was a very constructive and warm discussion again

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Speaker 12: with President Trump.

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Speaker 7: The US President agreed that an exemption was under consideration.

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Speaker 3: And when President Trump was asked about the conversation in

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Speaker 3: the overall offers, this is what he had to say.

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Speaker 7: I just spoke to him, very fine man, and he

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Speaker 7: has a surplus. I mean, we have a surplus with Australia.

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Speaker 7: What are the few and the reason is they buy

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Speaker 7: a lot of aeroplanes. They are rather far away and

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Speaker 7: they need lots of aeroplanes, and we actually have a surplus.

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Speaker 7: It's one of the only countries which we do. And

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Speaker 7: I told him that that's something that we will give

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Speaker 7: great consideration to.

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Speaker 3: This is the most conciliatory the President has been when

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Speaker 3: it comes to these executive orders. Do you see President

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Speaker 3: Trump bending on this given the unique set of circumstances,

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Speaker 3: the close relationship with Australia and the fact that the

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Speaker 3: US enjoys a trade surplus with US.

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Speaker 14: Yes, I wouldn't dare profess to know what President Trump

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Speaker 14: would do on any given day. But those three points

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Speaker 14: that you mentioned Rita are very unique to Australia. As

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Speaker 14: the US runs a trade surplus with and has the

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Speaker 14: mid twentieth century. So that definitely is music to Trump's

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Speaker 14: ears because the whole premise or philosophy which we do

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Speaker 14: understand about Trump, he's been very clear about it, is

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Speaker 14: leveling the playing field and having reciprocal trade deals where

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Speaker 14: we're not running deficits with every single country. So the

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Speaker 14: Australia definitely takes that box. There is also the defense

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Speaker 14: relationship where there are big buyers of US aircraft and

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Speaker 14: military equipment and the things in the OFCICE deal, and

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Speaker 14: also the geographic positioning of Australia as a long standing

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Speaker 14: one hundred year ally in this region, proximity to China.

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Speaker 4: All of that just really.

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Speaker 14: Positions Australia very uniquely. So I would take Trump at

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Speaker 14: his word that he's going to take all of that

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Speaker 14: under consideration and look at the big picture.

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Speaker 3: Now, some interesting comments for Opposition later paid to Dutton.

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Speaker 3: He actually took a very strong line against President Trump

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Speaker 3: saying that if he goes through with these tariffs, it's

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Speaker 3: two countries. Did that take you by surprise that he

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Speaker 14: It is interesting the specifics of that, but I sort

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Speaker 14: of have see echoes of it with mister Pierre and

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Speaker 14: Canada as well. Who's in Canada is in an election

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Speaker 14: year and same thing where they're sort of maybe trying

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Speaker 14: So maybe that's the extent if I had to wager

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Speaker 14: a guess of where mister Dutton was going. But I

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Speaker 14: think everybody understands whether it's Australia or Canada, the leverage

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Speaker 14: is very clear who holds more leverage in that situation,

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Speaker 14: and so it's better off for smaller countries that are

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Speaker 14: allied with the US to work within this framework and

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Speaker 14: this America first world view that Trump has as opposed

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Speaker 14: to straight up posturing against it, because I just don't

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Speaker 14: think that other countries are going to get very far

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Speaker 14: with Trump's agenda the way it.

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Speaker 3: Is, absolutely, and I do wonder whether Pido Datin is

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Speaker 3: worried about the left's attacks against him in this country

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Speaker 3: where so much of the media coverage is vehemently anti Trump,

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Speaker 3: and they're likening him to Trump on a fairly regular basis,

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Speaker 3: saying his Australia is Trump, he wants to implement the

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Speaker 3: Trump agenda, and I wonder whether that's something that is

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Speaker 3: causing some worries within the liberals. It shouldn't. They should

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Speaker 3: be able to counter it fairly effectively. But as we know,

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Speaker 3: sometimes they get spooked Kosher.

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Speaker 14: Yes they do. And that's a playbook from the left

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Speaker 14: now to try and liken everybody to Trump. But I

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Speaker 14: really hope that they don't fall in that trap. Don't

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Speaker 14: fall into the frame that the other side sets. Just

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Speaker 14: lead on your own merits and maybe agree and amplify.

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Speaker 14: There's much actually about Trump that they could harness and

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Speaker 14: use that to their advantage. About Yes, you know, we

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Speaker 14: are pro Australia. We believe in Australia first. That might

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Speaker 14: the right side of the island other countries.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, we've seen it happen with Halve Mila in Argentina,

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Speaker 3: he was called the Argentinian Trump. They've done it with Georgia.

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Speaker 3: Maloney called it a female Trump, and they're two of

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Speaker 3: the most popular leaders anywhere in the world. So there

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Speaker 3: are ways to counter this and it can actually be

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Speaker 3: used to your advantage. Now, let's talk about conservative activist

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Speaker 3: Robbie Starbuck. He's been incredibly successful in lobbying big corporations

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Speaker 3: like walmart Ford, Harley Davidson McDonald's to get rid of

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Speaker 3: their DEI policies. This is even before Donald Trump was

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Speaker 3: elected to his second term, and he's announced his next

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Speaker 3: target is JP Morgan, the largest bank in America, Kosher.

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Speaker 3: We are seeing this massive cultural shift in the corporate

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Speaker 3: sector and the banking industry. Well, they're not going to

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Speaker 3: be immune from it, are they.

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Speaker 14: They certainly will not. You know, there's a few things

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Speaker 14: happening where the US government is now leading by example,

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Speaker 14: in these two weeks, every DEA apartment across the government

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Speaker 14: been slashed. So that sort of provides political and cultural cover,

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Speaker 14: I think to corporate America, where maybe even if they

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Speaker 14: after them. The second thing is it actually is illegal.

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Speaker 14: The Civil Rights Act specifically and explicitly says that you

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Speaker 14: are not to discriminate labor relationships and employment contracts on

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Speaker 14: the basis of any of these immutable characteristics. And so

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Speaker 14: I think they would expect that the Trump Civil Rights

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Speaker 14: Department and the DOJ under Pambondi might even go after

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Speaker 14: certain violations of that in the corporate sector. And Jamie Diamon,

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Speaker 14: the CEO of JP Morgan, is a very smart guy.

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Speaker 14: I'm sure he understands all of that, and I think

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Speaker 14: Starbuck might just give him the push that he needs.

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Speaker 14: But even without that, the tide certainly seems to be turning.

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Speaker 3: Kosher Ga, thank you so much for your time. Tonight

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Speaker 3: still to come. President Trump gives a mass an optimatum

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Speaker 3: release all the hostages by Saturday. All the cease buy

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Speaker 3: is off. Josh Hamma is uploads welcome back. Joining me

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Speaker 3: now is Newsweek's senior editor at Large and Article three

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Speaker 3: projects Senior Council Josh Hammer. Josh will cover President Trump's

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Speaker 3: comments about the Gaza hostages shortly, but Let's start with

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Speaker 3: the furious paced administration is setting. In just over three weeks.

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Speaker 3: They appear to have achieved more than some administrations do

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Speaker 3: over four years. And what has shocked many, including The

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Speaker 3: New York Times, is the ease which it's all been done,

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Speaker 3: the ease with which so many in the public and

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Speaker 3: private sectors have fallen into line in abandoning critical race

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Speaker 3: theory and DEI practices. As it surprised you just how

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Speaker 12: You know, reader, at some point over the past couple

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Speaker 12: of years, I think something clipped for Donald Trump. I mean,

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Speaker 12: he was always outside the box thinker. He was always

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Speaker 12: someone who was in there to drain the swamp there.

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Speaker 12: But you know, maybe it was when Joe Biden and

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Speaker 12: Maeric Garland jack Smith were trying to incarcerate him and

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Speaker 12: bankrupt him and generally ruin his life. Maybe he was

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Speaker 12: around the time that Thomas Matthew Cross came within millimeters

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Speaker 12: of assassinating him in Butler, Pennsylvania last July. But something

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Speaker 12: clicked in this man and he decided to come out

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Speaker 12: absolutely blistering here in these opening few weeks. It kind

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Speaker 12: of reminds me of something that Steve Bannon said back

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Speaker 12: during the first Trump administration, which is that the mentality

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Speaker 12: should be to flood the zone, to basically do a

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Speaker 12: lot in such rapid succession, to try to put the enemy,

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Speaker 12: in this case, that will be the left and the

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Speaker 12: media here in America, to put them on their heels

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Speaker 12: so that their head is constantly on a swivel. They

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Speaker 12: quite literally can't keep up with everything going on right there.

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Speaker 12: And that I think basically has been the mentality. Now

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Speaker 12: we're starting to see some left wing judges, some lower

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Speaker 12: dubious nationwide injunctions. So they're basically resorting to the one

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Speaker 12: tool that they possibly can, which are these forum shop judges,

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Speaker 12: to try to put a stop in this agenda. But

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Speaker 12: so far you're entirely right, Well, we have seen these

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Speaker 12: in these opening three weeks. Is the most impactful start

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Speaker 12: to a presidential administration, not just in my lifetime, but

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Speaker 12: I suspect in the lifetime probably of anyone who is

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Speaker 12: been remarkable to see and I hope it keeps up.

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Speaker 3: Frankly, now, the US AID us AID fight is one

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Speaker 3: that signifies the divide between the activists left, who wielded

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Speaker 3: just enormous power, disproportionate power, and pretty much the rest

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Speaker 3: of the country. We'll get to how us AID was

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Speaker 3: complicit in creating the false narratives behind Trump's impeachment, but first,

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Speaker 3: the Vatican just overnight took aim at the Trump administration.

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Speaker 3: A cardinal closely aligned to Pope Francis urge the administration

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Speaker 3: to remember Christian principles about caring for others, while a

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Speaker 3: Vatican charity put out a statement claiming that millions of

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Speaker 3: people could die as a result of the and I

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Speaker 3: quote here ruthless US decision to recklessly stop us AID funding. Josh,

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Speaker 3: how is stopping funding for the following And I'm going

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Speaker 3: to just list some items. Za going to kill millions.

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Speaker 3: We've got taxpayers money, forty five million of it going

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Speaker 3: to DEI scholarships in Burma, seven point nine million to

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Speaker 3: teach Sri Lankan journalists how to avoid binary gendered language,

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Speaker 3: four and a half million to combat disinformation in Kazakhstan,

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Speaker 3: two million for sex changes and LGBT activism in Guatemala,

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Speaker 3: two point one million to help the BBC value the

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Speaker 3: diversity of Libyan society. Ten million worth of USAID funded

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Speaker 3: meals went to al Qaeda, a terrorist group, or it

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Speaker 3: went to a Al Kaeda linked terrorist group. Five million

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Speaker 3: to EcoHealth Alliance, one of the key NGOs funding that

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Speaker 3: virus research in that Wuhan lab had got. Money going

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Speaker 3: to Armenian LGBT groups. Money going to LGBT advocacy in Jamaica.

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Speaker 3: Two million to promote LGBT equity in Latin America, five

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Speaker 3: point five million for LGBT activism in Uganda. There's a

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Speaker 3: theme emerging.

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Speaker 12: There, Josh, Yeah, Read, I give you a lot of

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Speaker 12: credit for reading through that entire list and somehow not

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Speaker 12: just bursting down into laughter, because that would have been

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Speaker 12: my temptation if I were in your position there. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 12: the one who is not laughing as the American taxpayer

655
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Speaker 12: who has been subsidizing all of this stupid crap for

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Speaker 12: the better part of six plus decades.

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Speaker 8: I mean.

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Speaker 12: John F. Kennedy established USAID via executive order in nineteen

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Speaker 12: sixty one as a tool of soft power diplomacy at

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Speaker 12: the height of the Cold War. This is the era

661
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Speaker 12: of the Cuban Missile crisis and mutually assured destruction there.

662
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Speaker 12: It was one tool in the American arsenal to try

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Speaker 12: to stop the expansion the metastasists of the Soviet Union.

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Speaker 12: But the Soviet Union has not existed literally in my

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Speaker 12: lifetime here and at this point, USAID has been so

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Speaker 12: wildly co opted by far left gender ideologues and racial

667
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Speaker 12: identitarians there. Who does the Vatican think they are, frankly

668
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Speaker 12: to get on their moral high horse and try to

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Speaker 12: tell us what we can and cannot shrim out of

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Speaker 12: our federal budget. They have no right whatsoever to meddle

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Speaker 12: in our own internal affairs when it comes to how

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Speaker 12: we manage our budget here and for their purposes, they're

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Speaker 12: probably most concerned, if I'm being very charitable, I would

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Speaker 12: imagine they're most concerned about some of the actual rare

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Speaker 12: good things that USAID does when it comes to, for instance,

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Speaker 12: stopping the spread of ebola and HIV and AIDS in Africa.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 12: But the point readA that will continue. It will just

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Speaker 12: get subsumed into the US State Department. This is really

680
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Speaker 12: just bureaucratic streamlining, and it all redounds to benefit of

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Speaker 12: the US taxpayer. The Vatican has no business, What's so

682
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Speaker 12: freaking ever meddling in our affairs. I would kindly suggest,

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Speaker 12: actually that they get our own house in order stop

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Speaker 12: putting Baby Jesus in a bunch of Palestinian kafeas that

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Speaker 12: might give them a little bit more of a moral

686
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Speaker 12: high ground here to tell us whether or not we

687
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Speaker 12: can stop subsidizing al Qaeder militants, as we just signed

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Speaker 12: the screen.

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Speaker 3: And the hypocrisy there as well. Whenever they're weighing on

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Speaker 3: these issues, you look at how the Vatican itself operates

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Speaker 3: the security, the walls, the wealth, and perhaps keep those

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Speaker 3: lectures to yourself. Now, tell me about the manner in

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Speaker 3: which USAID was involved in the impeachment of Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: in twenty nineteen. Investigative journalist Michael Schellenberger has done some

695
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Speaker 3: remarkable work uncovering the links. Here, I tell my audience

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Speaker 3: what the involvement of USAID and that CIA analyst was

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Speaker 3: in the Trump impeachment.

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Speaker 12: So the twenty nineteen Trump impeachment, it's hard to keep

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Speaker 12: track of all this. I mean, we've had all these

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Speaker 12: prosecutions and then the second impeachment was a January sixth

701
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Speaker 12: impeachment that really stole a lot of the headlines, But

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Speaker 12: the twenty nineteen impeachment was the one that involved this

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Speaker 12: fairly brief phone call with Vladimir's Lensky. Trump famously described

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Speaker 12: that as a perfect phone call. It was a fairly

705
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Speaker 12: brief phone call. If you printed out a transcript there was,

706
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Speaker 12: it was roughly five or six pages long. The entire

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Speaker 12: country of Ukraine, Rita and the aftermath of the Maidan

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Speaker 12: Revolution in twenty fourteen became something of a playground for

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Speaker 12: Western NGOs, for Western liberal Hillary Clinton, George Soros adjacent

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Speaker 12: non governmental organizations there, and you know, in the aftermath

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Speaker 12: of the Cold War, I was kind of just explaining

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Speaker 12: how USAID lost its reason for existing after the Cold War.

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Speaker 12: It got totally co opted by this constellation of left

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Speaker 12: wing NGOs, and a lot of those NGOs were involved

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Speaker 12: there on the ground in Ukraine, ultimately leading to the

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Speaker 12: bogus impeachment of Donald Trump for this Zelenski phone call

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Speaker 12: in twenty nineteen. By the way, it's worth remembering that

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Speaker 12: that actual impeachment in response to this Pune call. What

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Speaker 12: Donald Trump was doing was he was threatening to withhold

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Speaker 12: aid to Ukraine to make sure that they got their

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Speaker 12: investigation in order of Hunter Biden em Barrisma. So fast

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Speaker 12: forward actually six years later, and we've seen a lot

723
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Speaker 12: more details, by the way, about Hunter Biden Embarisma, thanks

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Speaker 12: to the Miranda Divine and Laptop from Hell the New

725
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Speaker 12: York Post that whole story there. It turned out that

726
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Speaker 12: Donald Trump was actually totally correct in twenty nineteen to

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Speaker 12: try to limit Foreign Eight's Ukraine in response to their

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Speaker 12: shenanigans with respect to Hunter Biden.

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Speaker 3: Now, President Trump has made it clear that his patience

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Speaker 3: with her mass is running out. After they released three hostages.

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Speaker 3: It obviously suffered terrible abuse being starved. Here is what

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Speaker 3: the President had to say about that.

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Speaker 11: When I see that scene that I saw it today,

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Speaker 11: with people.

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Speaker 7: Coming out of helicopters and airplanes that are emaciated, that

736
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Speaker 7: look like they haven't had a meal in a month,

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Speaker 7: there's no reason for that.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know how much longer we can take it.

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Speaker 14: Do you mean you want to be.

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Speaker 2: Cast I don't know how how long we can take it.

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Speaker 11: When I watch people that were healthy people a reasonably

742
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Speaker 11: short number of years ago, and you look at them today,

743
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Speaker 11: they look like they've aged twenty five years.

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Speaker 7: They literally look like the old pictures of Holocaust survivor.

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Speaker 2: It's the same thing. I mean the same thing, And

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Speaker 2: I don't know how long we're going to.

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Speaker 3: Take that half forwards there, And earlier today, President Trump

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Speaker 3: gave her Mass a deadline to release all the hostages

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Speaker 3: or the ceasefire would end.

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Speaker 7: As far as I'm concerned, if all of the hostages

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Speaker 7: aren't returned by Saturday at twelve o'clock, I think it's

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Speaker 7: an appropriate time. I would say cancel it, and all

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Speaker 7: bets are off and let hell break out. I'd say

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Speaker 7: they ought to be returned by twelve o'clock on Saturday.

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Speaker 7: And if they're not returned, all of them, not in

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Speaker 7: drips and drabs.

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Speaker 3: Josh, how do you see this progressing? Is the Sea

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Speaker 3: Spire in danger of coming to an end on Saturday?

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Speaker 12: Well, it seems like the answer to that question, Rita,

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Speaker 12: is yes, unless Hamas somehow produces all of the remaining hostages,

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Speaker 12: which if I know anything about Hamas whatsoever, I am

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Speaker 12: quite skeptical that they are going to abide by by

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Speaker 12: Donald Trump's demands here there. What is that going to

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Speaker 12: meet in concrete terms? I mean, that's kind of million

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Speaker 12: dollar question that I have after seeing that clip I'm

766
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Speaker 12: not entirely sure that Donald Trump is threatening direct military

767
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Speaker 12: action in guys, they're Rather I think that he would

768
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Speaker 12: simply be encouraging Israel and the IDF to basically to

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Speaker 12: go in and to double down on the refferens. You know,

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Speaker 12: it's worth re calling Rita that the IDF, which by

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Speaker 12: the way, has achieved the most moral and just civilian

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Speaker 12: to combat in death ratio in the history of urban warfare.

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Speaker 12: But one of the reasons that they have been hamstringing

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Speaker 12: their own soldiers so much when it comes to the

775
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Speaker 12: rules of engagement was back to during the Biden administration,

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Speaker 12: which was constantly threatening them and accusing them of possibly

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Speaker 12: committing genocide or things like this. There. But if Donald

778
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Speaker 12: Trump saying, you know, all hell is going to break loose,

779
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Speaker 12: do what you have to do. You're going to get

780
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Speaker 12: a more unrestrained, a less restrained Israel defense for US,

781
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Speaker 12: is that really ought to be very bad news for

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Speaker 12: hermaster at this point there, it seems like Donald Trump

783
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Speaker 12: has really taken these absolutely appalling auschwitz Asque images of

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Speaker 12: these freed hostages to heart there, and good for him. Frankly,

785
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Speaker 12: it seems like Nataniahu's trip to DC last week really

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Speaker 12: paid off in speeds.

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Speaker 3: And it wasn't just the condition of the hostages, Josh,

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Speaker 3: it was the psychological torture they were subjected to. One

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Speaker 3: of the hostages, Eli Sharabi, was asked what he was

790
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Speaker 3: looking forward to the shammed crazy scenes that her Mask

791
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Speaker 3: had created where they're interviewing them, making them hold up certificates,

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Speaker 3: and he said he was looking forward to seeing his

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Speaker 3: family's wife and daughters. He didn't know, Josh that her

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Speaker 3: mass had already murdered them. That just shows you the

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Speaker 3: depravaty and the cruelty of this terror group. It's just

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Speaker 3: beyond human comprehension. It's beyond decency. Let's end on a

797
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Speaker 3: lighter note before I let you go, I saw you

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Speaker 3: had some strong thoughts on the Super Bowl halftime show.

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Speaker 3: It's been widely panned, labeled the worst halftime show ever.

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Speaker 3: Tell me why it left you feeling less than satisfied.

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Speaker 12: Well, it was a really lousy game. Unfortunately, the Eagles

802
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Speaker 12: absolutely destroyed the Chiefs. It's a very lousy football game here,

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Speaker 12: and it was an even lousier halftime show. So New Orleans,

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Speaker 12: Louisiana is a very special place. Reader, So I clerked

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Speaker 12: on the US Court Appeals for the Fifth Circuit, which

806
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Speaker 12: is the federal appeals court that has Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi.

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Speaker 12: The court is actually based in New Orleans. My brother

808
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Speaker 12: actually went to university at Tulane University in New Orleans.

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Speaker 12: I've been to Mariti Gras, I've been to Jazz past.

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Speaker 12: I spent a lot of time in New Orleans over

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Speaker 12: the years. That city, more than arguably any other city

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Speaker 12: in America, which is where the super Bowl is held,

813
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Speaker 12: has an extra ordinary musical heritage. It is the birthplace

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Speaker 12: of jazz. It has given this country so much when

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Speaker 12: it comes to music there and then during the super

816
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Speaker 12: Bowl that is there in New Orleans, we get this.

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Speaker 12: I mean, was that music? I mean, not to sound

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Speaker 12: like too much an old crotchety country music fan, which

819
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Speaker 12: I basically am there, I mean, if that is music,

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Speaker 12: then my definition of music has to meet a whole

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Speaker 12: new barometer. By the way, it would also seemed like

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Speaker 12: it was something of an implicit middle finger to white America.

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Speaker 12: Roger Goodell, the commissioner of the NFL, just doubled down

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Speaker 12: hard on DEI this past week, even after Donald Trump

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Speaker 12: got back into office. I don't think I saw a

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Speaker 12: single white person on stage in the entirety of the

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Speaker 12: halftime show. I think that's an unmistakable message that the

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Speaker 12: NFL is sending, frankly, to a large part of their

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Speaker 12: fan base. It was total garbage, and frankly readA I

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Speaker 12: want to see Jason al Dean or Carrie Underwood or

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Speaker 12: some MAGA friendly country music start at the super Bowl

832
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Speaker 12: next year.

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Speaker 3: If it's not too late, country music at the super

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Speaker 3: Bowl halftime shot, that would be amazing. Can you just

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Speaker 3: imagine one hundred thousand people singing along? And that was

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Speaker 3: what really stood out to me when you look at

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Speaker 3: some of those crowd shots. The crowd wasn't into it.

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Speaker 3: People were on their phones. It was only fourteen minutes

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Speaker 3: I think that performance and if you can't haven't even

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Speaker 3: got the crowd there in the stadium having a look

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Speaker 3: at what you're doing, then you can just imagine what

842
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Speaker 3: people at home were thinking. Josh Hamma, thanks for your

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Speaker 3: time tonight.

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Speaker 12: Thank you really appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: That's it from me. Don't go anywhere. Newsnight is up next.

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Speaker 3: I'll see you tomorrow at eleven