1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to Ask Fear and Greed, where we take your 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: questions and do our best to answer them. I'm Michael Thompson, 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: and good afternoon, Sean Aylmer. 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Michael. 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: You sounded very excited today, Sean. 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: Ah, I am very excited. I love this topic. 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: It's because you know, we've got a great question coming up, 8 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: and it is one that it's coming from James who 9 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: joins us from Melbourne, and he says, you have talked 10 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: a lot on the show about bitcoin and cryptocurrency. While interesting, 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: how much more accessible these products have become, I don't 12 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: think I've actually heard a clear case for why anyone 13 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: would want to invest in cryptocurrency other than number go up, 14 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: which is a good way to a great way to 15 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: put it, James. He does make the point though maybe 16 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: perhaps my newborn baby brain missed it this possibility, but 17 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: that's what we're going to try and answer here today. 18 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: Perhaps you could talk about some of these and James 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: ads for example, bitcoin a potential alternative to grow into 20 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: gold market capitalization and or to become another global reserve currency, 21 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: and also the dangers of meme coins, including doge coin. 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 1: He includes a little apology to Elon Musk there as well, 23 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: and I suppose I've got a few more that we 24 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: can add to that now as well too. There's a 25 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: lot in this question, so you've got to put You've 26 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: got to put your crypto cap on, take it away. 27 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: So I should admit up front arm a skeptic on cryptos. 28 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: So I've decided to go to experts to help me 29 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: give reasons for why you should invest in cryptos. It's 30 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: important to think of there's a use case and there's 31 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: an investment case, and they're very different things. The use 32 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: case I mean, undoubtedly cryptos like Bitcoin, lower fees, faster 33 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: transaction times in the s banks, so if you're buying 34 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: products overseas, it's just a much more efficient way to 35 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: do it. The cryptocurrencies themselves operate on blockchain technology. It's 36 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: fully public, it really can't be changed or manipulated or deleted, 37 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: so in terms of scams, it's probably safer that way. 38 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 2: So in terms of a use case, lower fees, faster transactions, 39 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: safe technology, I supposely, I mean, I'm just trying to 40 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 2: think it. I mean another thing, as they grow in popularity, 41 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 2: more financial institutions, mainstream financial institution and businesses are showing 42 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 2: interest in accepting cryptocurrencies, so that's kind of good. 43 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: I think that that, to me is kind of one 44 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: of the big standout things as well, because I always 45 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: look to people who are smarter than me for this, 46 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: and you kind of see some of these big institutional 47 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: investors getting on board, and I'm like, Okay, all right, 48 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: maybe this is something that we should be kind of 49 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: looking at. But can't make the point here that this 50 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: is not investing podcasts, and you definitely should, definitely, definitely 51 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: should seek professional advice. 52 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: And what we're talking here is use cases for non 53 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 2: investment cases. So so far we've been talking about use 54 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: cases once you get to investment cases. Cryptos have no 55 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 2: intrinsic value, unlike gold, which actually, under BAAL guidelines has 56 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 2: some intrinsic value. Currencies, governments stand behind currencies. None of 57 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: that happens with cryptocurrencies, even bitcoin. They are highly volatile, 58 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 2: but they've also yielded really high returns in the past, 59 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: depending on when you purchased it. Now, past performance doesn't 60 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: guarantee future results or anything like that, but there have 61 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:47,839 Speaker 2: been some cryptocurrencies where they're as an investment, they've gone 62 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: through the roof, and they're quite easy to buy. That's 63 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: the other thing. Nowadays, they're quite easy to buy meme coins. Well, 64 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: you alluded to the fact that there's Dollar Trump and 65 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 2: Dollar Millennia training at the moment, they've only been launched 66 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: in the last week since Donald Trump was inaugurator or 67 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:10,279 Speaker 2: just before he took that job. In the terms and conditions, 68 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: they actually say these are not meant for investment purposes. 69 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: Now people have bought them Donald Trump. Last time I 70 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: looked that Dollar Trump was worth eight billion dollars. There's 71 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: no intrinsic value in that whatsoever, but people just like 72 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: to do it. So where there's a market people want 73 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 2: to buy and sell them, then you can make money, 74 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,679 Speaker 2: but you can lose all that money just as easily. 75 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: The other thing I suppose is regular to risk. So 76 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: they're not regulated at the moment, which is good or 77 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: bad depending on which side you come from. And there's 78 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: a chance that they will be regulated, mind you. If 79 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 2: they're regulated, that may actually give them some more credibility 80 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: on the street. So ah, James, I want to give 81 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 2: you good reasons, but I'm struggling. Oh. 82 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: Look, and even then, when you just said about the 83 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: dollar trump coin and the fact that they and made 84 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: it clear this is not for investment purposes. 85 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 2: And what is it? What min do people buy it? 86 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: What is it for? What possible value does it actually have? 87 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,559 Speaker 1: Like it comes back to this initial kind of question, 88 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: what is the use case for it? 89 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: So you can use them to buy goods and do 90 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 2: cross border transfers. Right, So I see that that's. 91 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: Not but no one's using dollar trump for that. No 92 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: one's using dollar MILIONI oh no, no. 93 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 2: So this is crypto is right. Then there's an investment 94 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 2: case which I don't see, but people have made money. 95 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 2: There's a market for that. And then we're talking about 96 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: meme coins, right, and meme coins are like pins. You 97 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: know when you go to big the Sydney Olympics. I 98 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: seem to remember everyone had a pin. To me, meme 99 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: coin is like a pin, really popular at the time, 100 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: but people have probably got all these pins in their 101 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 2: drawers at home that worthless. 102 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, do you know that? Before I went to 103 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: the twenty twelve Olympics in London because I was working 104 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: in radio at the time and we were broadcasting the games, 105 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: and a listener of the radio station sent in said, look, 106 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: just so you know the Olympics when they come around, 107 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: pins are like currency at these events. So here, take 108 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: these with you and see what you can do with it. 109 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: And sent in hundreds upon hundreds of pins from Olympics, 110 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: like mostly from the Sydney Olympics, but from further back 111 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: as well. I can only imagine they would have been worth. 112 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: I had no idea what to do with these, but 113 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: so you walked into the Olympic venues and set up 114 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: outside on desks and things that were and people just 115 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: almost had them in kind of briefcases and things like 116 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: they sell you a Dodgy rolex like that. There was 117 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: just like walls of these pins from Olympics from many, 118 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: many years past, and I'm like, yeah, it just kind 119 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: of pops up, and so maybe that is the best 120 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: way to kind of look at it. It's just it's 121 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: got value to some people, not to all. And if 122 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: you try to take them and you try and take 123 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: that into a convenience store and buy a loaf of bread, they're. 124 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: Going to laugh at that much chance. Yep. Yeah. 125 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: I anyway, we have we answered the question. 126 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 2: Well, I'm a syning, as I said at the top, 127 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: and the answer to the question is going to get 128 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: financial advice. We are not a podcast giving financial advice, So. 129 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: I honestly thought you were about to say something else. 130 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: Is then when he started with go and get and 131 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: then a little little hint of a financial advice came 132 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: out of that, is that is a bit of sass there. 133 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: Sean wasn't expecting that anyway. Look, thank you James for 134 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: your question. Look, I think we answered it. I'm going 135 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: to say we did. And look, James included in his 136 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: notes some really nice words. He thanked fear and Greed 137 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: for kind of he's been listening for the last five years, 138 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: would you believe? And he because he shifted into a 139 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: career in finance and investments and he's found fear and 140 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: greed to be really useful. I sincerely hope we haven't 141 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: let you down there episode. Thank you James for your question, 142 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: and thank you Sean for answering it. 143 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: Thanks James, Thanks Michael. 144 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: If you have your own question that you would like 145 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: to put to us, you can send it on through 146 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: the website Fearinggreed dot com dot as James did, or 147 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: you can head along to any of the social media 148 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: platforms LinkedIn Facebook, Instagram, send it on through there, and 149 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: we'll pop it on the list and get to it 150 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: as soon as possible. I'm Michael Thompson, and this is 151 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: asked fear and greed