1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,559 Speaker 1: From the newsroom. A news still come to me. 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: Gooday there, I'm Andrew Bucklow. 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 3: Hey. If you're feeling a little bit out of the 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 3: loop with what's going on in the world, not to worry. 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 3: Just head to news dot com dot AU. We've got 6 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 3: the latest from the trial of alleged mushroom poisoner Aaron Patterson. 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 3: She's accused of killing three people with a deadly dish 8 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 3: of beef Wellington. We've also got a shocking video of 9 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 3: a nineteen year old girl who plummeted to her death 10 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 3: after unbuckling her harness while parasailing. It is such a 11 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 3: confronting video. But I'll tell you what, We're not going 12 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 3: to discuss any of that heavy stuff in this episode. 13 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: No way. We're gonna talk about something a little bit 14 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 3: more fun. Messy celebrity divorces. Fun for us, not so 15 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 3: much for them. The topic is back in the news 16 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 3: thanks to Hugh Jackman's ex wife, who's made some rather 17 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 3: surprising comments recently about their split. 18 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: I've got a colleague who absolutely. 19 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 3: Loves stories like these, so she's going to join us 20 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 3: in just a moment, run us through what's happened, and 21 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 3: then she's going to reveal her three favorite messy celebrity 22 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 3: splits of all time. I mean, who even has a 23 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: list like that? With joining me in the studio now 24 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 3: is news dot com dot U is Mary Madigan. 25 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: Mary. 26 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: Before I even let you speak, I just want to 27 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 3: say to the listeners that there is a lot of 28 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 3: construction work going on outside our office right now. It 29 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: is really bloody annoying. So I'm hoping that none of 30 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: that noise comes through. But if you do hear any interference, 31 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 3: I apologize. Now my favorite kind of interference is Mary Madigan. 32 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: Welcome to the studio. 33 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. 34 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: It's a delight to have you here. 35 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: You have written this fantastic piece for news dot com 36 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 3: dot you about why we all love a messy celebrity breakup. 37 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 2: So why do we. 38 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 4: Because when you think about it, if your friend messaged 39 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 4: you and said, hey, I've gone through a breakup. We've 40 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 4: decided not to be together, you want them to give 41 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 4: you a juicy reason for why. You don't want them 42 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 4: to say like, oh, we just grew apart. You want 43 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 4: to say I slept with your sister and I'm sorry, 44 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 4: Like you want the gossip, and I think more so 45 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 4: than ever we always want to know, Like especially celebrities 46 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 4: put forward these perfect relationships, we want to know what 47 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 4: went wrong. 48 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I feel like the kind of pr managed 49 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: breakup really begun with Gwyneth Paltrow, don't you think. Yes, 50 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 3: the consciously uncoupling statement that she put out when she 51 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 3: broke up from Chris Martin. Oh what a load of 52 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 3: wank that was. 53 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 4: And I think it said the standard you're completely right, 54 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 4: where suddenly the new divorce was like we're having the 55 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 4: perfect divorce, Like we're best friends, but we're not together anymore, 56 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 4: and like I don't know anyone that's best friends with 57 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 4: their ex to you. 58 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: No, I don't. Okay. 59 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 3: The reason you wrote this article recently for US dot 60 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 3: com dot AU was because of some twists and turns 61 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 3: that have taken in the split of Hugh Jackman and 62 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 3: Deborah Lee Finess. They were married for twenty seven years 63 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 3: and then in twenty twenty three, they shocked the world 64 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: when they announced that they had separated. 65 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 4: And they did the classic classy celebrity a list of 66 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 4: thing where they put out this joint statement where they 67 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 4: used a bunch of therapy words in a way that 68 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,119 Speaker 4: almost kind of didn't make sense. 69 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: Do you want to read it? 70 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 3: I've got the statement right here. It says, we have 71 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 3: been blessed to share almost three decades together as husband 72 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 3: and wife in a wonderful, loving marriage. Our journey now 73 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 3: is shifting, and we have decided to separate to pursue 74 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 3: our individual growth. Our family has been and always will 75 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 3: be our highest priority. We undertake this next chapter with gratitude, love, 76 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 3: and kindness. We greatly appreciate your understanding and respecting our 77 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 3: privacy as our family navigates this transition in all our lives. 78 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 2: Here's the kicker. 79 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 3: They ended it by saying, this is the sole statement 80 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 3: either of us will make which brings us to what 81 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: happened recently. Yeah. 82 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 4: Look, the thing I love about that statement is it's 83 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 4: kind of similar to when someone gets fired but posts 84 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 4: on LinkedIn that they're moving on to our next chapter 85 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 4: and you're like, hang on, And it's the exact same 86 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 4: feeling where you're reading something and you know it's just 87 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: probably isn't true, because if you're in such a good journey, 88 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 4: like why have you decided to part ways now? 89 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: Good points. 90 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: So we should say that Hugh appears to be in 91 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 3: a relationship now, and we are not suggesting that he 92 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 3: started that relationship when he was still married to Deborah Leefines. 93 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: But the timeline. 94 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 3: He announced that separation in twenty twenty three, and then 95 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: there were rumors in October twenty twenty four that he 96 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: was dating Sutton Foster. 97 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: What do we know about Sutton. 98 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 4: They've known each other forever because they're both in Broadway circles, 99 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 4: I think someone I think it was an article on 100 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 4: music on May you actually read. But they' have know 101 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 4: each other for seventeen years and she's also the recently 102 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 4: spit with her husband, so the timing is interesting. 103 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, they did a musical together back in I think 104 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen to twenty twenty two. They were performing The 105 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 3: Music Man on Broadway together, which is when Hugh was 106 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 3: still married, when Sutton was still married. Again, when not 107 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 3: suggesting any crossover there. 108 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 4: Late last year and earlier this year, they've kind of 109 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 4: come out as a couple. So you've seen some beautiful 110 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that they were planned, but you've seen 111 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 4: some beautiful photos of them walking around New York City together, 112 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 4: gorgeous paparazzi photos. 113 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 3: And those photos have come out at the beginning of 114 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 3: the year and then out of nowhere recently, Deborah lely 115 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 3: Finess seemed to have a little crack at you, what. 116 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 2: Can you tell me about this? 117 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 4: Well, she definitely decided to break protocol of like, this 118 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 4: is the last thing we'll be saying. Yeah, and she 119 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 4: was like, actually, I've got to say and I think, like, 120 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 4: I think a few things are a bit fun about this. 121 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: Even though the Sutton Foster and the Hugh. 122 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 4: Jackman story has been around for a little while and 123 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 4: there's been a few kind of like sources claim and 124 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 4: people say that they're together and they're very in love, 125 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 4: there hasn't really been much confirmation, and certainly Hugh Jackman 126 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 4: has not been giving out any statements or any comments on. 127 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: His personal life. 128 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 4: But I will say they've kind of become more comfortable 129 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 4: in their relationship being public because there's just more photos 130 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 4: emerging of them together and they're clearly not trying to 131 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 4: hide anything anymore, which is fine, there's not an issue. 132 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 4: But I'm going to say Debra's a bit sick of it, so. 133 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 3: Well, this is the thing, right, So they kind of 134 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 3: finalized their divorce recently, or they've initiated divorce proceedings. Even 135 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 3: though they separated way back in twenty twenty three, and 136 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 3: then deborahlely Finess sent a statement to The Daily Mail 137 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: just last week. 138 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 4: And you've got to be in a certain place to 139 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 4: be like, where do I need to airm I? Where 140 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 4: do I need to tell my truth the Daily Mail? 141 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 4: And I say that with no judgment. 142 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 3: I am just going to read out some of the 143 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 3: things that she said about her old relationship in this 144 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: statement to the So good my heart and compassion goes 145 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 3: out to everyone who has traversed the traumatic journey of betrayal. 146 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 3: It is a profound wound that cuts deep. However, I 147 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: believe in a higher power and that God or the universe, 148 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 3: whatever you relate to is your guidance, is always working 149 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 3: for us. 150 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 4: Look, she like obviously knows everyone's going to read it. 151 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 4: So she's like, so whoever, you believe him? You know, 152 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 4: like she's been inclusive, which I'm loving. It's giving. Like 153 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 4: your Auntie's had two chardonnaye at Christmas lunch and you 154 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 4: ask why Uncle Barry isn't around anymore, and she's like, 155 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 4: it's a journey of betrayal. 156 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 3: Why do you think she came out and felt the 157 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: need to release this statement, which is obviously her choice 158 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 3: is free to do so, but why what would have 159 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 3: prompted this? 160 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 4: She's pissed off, right. I don't think you, and I 161 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 4: say this with love to deb dere call her death. 162 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 4: I think you put up that statement when you want 163 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 4: people to know your side of the story, and I 164 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 4: think people were like, oh, it's amicable, he's moved on. 165 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 4: It had been a fair amount of time before he 166 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 4: kind of gone quite official with something Foster, and it 167 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 4: wasn't like a super super overlap. And I think she 168 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 4: kind of wanted to make it clear she felt betrayed 169 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 4: during the divorce and she wanted people to make maybe 170 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 4: some assertions about why they called it quits after twenty 171 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 4: seven years. 172 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 3: This is obviously a very interesting and messy divorce between 173 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: Hugh and Deborah, but it's not the best of all time. 174 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 3: Because you're a big fan of messy celebrity divorces, I've 175 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 3: set you the challenge to pick your favorite three of 176 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 3: all time, and after this short break, you're going to 177 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: tell us about them, aren't you? 178 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: Yes? Okay? Good? How awkward? If you said no? 179 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: I like the pause though where I was considering it. 180 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: We'll be back in just a moment, Welcome back. 181 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: I'm joined in the studio by news dot com dot 182 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 3: use Mary Madigan, who loves nothing more than a messy 183 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 3: celebrity split. She is going to run us through her 184 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 3: three favorite of all time. Mary hit us with number one. 185 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 4: Okay, I want to start by saying, these are the 186 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 4: ones that just speak to my soul. And everyone's entitled 187 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 4: to have their own celebrity divorce that they enjoy. 188 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: That's very messy, speaks to your soul. Sounds like a 189 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: therapy term as well. 190 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm doing. I'm theraprizing it all right. 191 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: Oh what do you got. 192 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 4: So Alice Evans and Ian I want to say Gruffords. 193 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: But okay, quite me on that. 194 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 2: So you haven't really learned how to say his name is. 195 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: So you brought this to the table and you're not 196 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: entirely show Now. I know the guy you're talking about. 197 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: He's a Welsh actor. 198 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: He was in Titanic, he was in some of the 199 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 3: Fantastic Four movies, and I think for our older listeners 200 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: he was Horatio Hornblower. 201 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 4: Okay, sure, but he was also in one hundred and 202 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 4: two Dalmatians, which is one hundred and one. No, they're 203 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 4: in the sequel, which is the sadest part of this 204 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 4: whole theme. They did meet in one hundred and one, 205 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 4: the real life version, they weren't voice actors, and that's 206 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 4: when he met Alice Evans. 207 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: Okay, his future wife. 208 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 4: So they met in two thousand and seven, they have 209 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 4: two kids, and then twenty twenty one they broke up. Now, 210 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 4: how do you think they announced their separation? 211 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 3: Was it one hundred one Damnations themes like we've changed 212 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 3: house spots? 213 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 4: Oh okay, well that would have been iconic. No, So 214 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 4: Alice has done something which I personally fan of. She's 215 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 4: gotten on the Twitter O no, and she thought I 216 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 4: need to I need to let everyone know. So she 217 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 4: gets on Twitter and she says, my husband's chosen to 218 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 4: leave this family and our two daughters are sad and 219 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 4: confused on. 220 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: Which obviously very sad. 221 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 3: Also, it's so cheapened by the fact she did it 222 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: on Twitter now known as X. But come on, release 223 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 3: a proper statement through someone, don't just put it on X. 224 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: He's also like. 225 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 4: Quite a fairly like you know, wellagged and well regarded 226 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 4: Welsh actor. You don't expect his ex to be on 227 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 4: like Twitter, being like he's chosen to leave, Like it. 228 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: Was very iconic of her. 229 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 3: I would love to see what time that tweet was 230 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 3: posted her time, like is it a four am kind 231 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 3: of tweet? 232 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: It wasn't. 233 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 4: But then this is the next part I love the most. 234 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 4: So then maybe like an hour passes and the tweet 235 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 4: gets deleted, So in your head you're probably like, oh, 236 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 4: she's thought about it. 237 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: She thought shouldn't be doing that. 238 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 4: No, no, no, She gets back on X she goes, I 239 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 4: didn't delete that tweet for a few hours ago. He did, 240 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 4: and then she is like, I will wash my linen 241 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 4: in public, which I was like, yes you will, girl, was. 242 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: She linen is such an outdated phrase too. 243 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: I know, but I was like, okay, sligh. 244 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 4: And then things have just like kind of gotten worse 245 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 4: from there, Like the divorce was very messy and lots 246 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 4: of things happened, but she did just keep pounding onto 247 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 4: the social media and like, at some point he started 248 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 4: dating a different woman named Bianca Wallace, and she was 249 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 4: accusing her of seducing him away from the family. The 250 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 4: way I know this is because once again she put 251 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 4: it on Twitter. And at some point she also just 252 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 4: had like a bit of pontificating going on, like she 253 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 4: was like, I used to think I would die for him. 254 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: What is wrong with me? Babbe? 255 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 4: It gets like more and more depressing, but the beginning 256 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 4: the tweet and then him leading the tweet allegedly is 257 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 4: one of the best celebrity. 258 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: Woss things I've ever seen. 259 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 3: What is your second favorite messy celebrity divorce of all time? 260 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: Mary Madigan? 261 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: I love John Mulaney and a tendler. 262 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 3: Okay, So John Mullaney is the comedian American comedian. I 263 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: think he has his own show on Netflix at the 264 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 3: moment as well. 265 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: He's doing very very well. 266 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, And he was on SNL and he had a 267 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 4: cup like he's had some really successful specials, and he 268 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 4: had that really viral joke Horse in the Hospital, which 269 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 4: he was comparing Tonald Trump to being a horse in 270 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 4: the hospital. 271 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: Okay, ever one on YouTube that it's like got millions 272 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: and millions of views. 273 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 4: So that's him, right, And in the early parts of 274 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 4: his career he was very much like, I'm this kind 275 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 4: of daggy guy, but I happen to have this really 276 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 4: cool wife who's like a gorgeous artist in New York City, 277 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 4: and I'm like kind of like a lose the wants 278 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 4: everyone to like me, and she's like that cooler looof girl, 279 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 4: out of hearty. 280 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 3: He mentioned this in one of his stand up specials, 281 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 3: Let's have a listen to this from Netflix. 282 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 5: I love and respect my wife very much, so I 283 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 5: said to her, Hey, we've been married for three and 284 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 5: a half years and she knew that. I said, do 285 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 5: you mind if I still make fun of you on stage? 286 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 5: And my wife said, she goes, yeah, you can make 287 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 5: fun of me. You can make fun of me, but 288 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 5: just don't say that I'm a bitch and that you 289 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 5: don't like me. I was like, whoa, the bar is 290 00:11:54,240 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 5: so much slower than I ever imagined. That's it. Also, 291 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 5: I wouldn't say that. What kind of show would that 292 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 5: even be? Hello, my wife is. 293 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: A bitch and I don't like her. 294 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 5: That's like a support group for men in crisis with 295 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 5: keynote speakers John Voight and Alec Baldwin. 296 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 4: He did that a lot, like he'd go on talk 297 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 4: shows and he'd always reference her. He was a big 298 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 4: I'm a wife guy, you know like type. And then 299 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 4: they were also pretty honest about fact they planned to 300 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 4: not have children. And they just had this French bulldog 301 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 4: and they were living this like New York City, gorgeous life, right, Okay, 302 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 4: So then they get divorced, well if they announce they're 303 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 4: getting divorced, and he goes to rehab, which is sad 304 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 4: for some addiction issues. But she puts out a statement 305 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 4: which is very interesting. It's very different from We're going 306 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 4: on a journey together but now separately. So she puts 307 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 4: out this, I'm heartbroken that John has decided to end 308 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 4: our marriage. 309 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: Oh, it's not good. 310 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 4: I wish him support and success as he continues his recovery, 311 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 4: which wh completely messy because basically she's saying he left me. 312 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, all the blame is on him. Then yes, he. 313 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 4: Doesn't really say much, but then very quickly afterwards, he 314 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 4: announces that him and Olivia Mun the actress, are having 315 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 4: a baby. Oh, and they obviously chose not to have children. 316 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 4: And then within the same year he's having a baby 317 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 4: with another. 318 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 3: Woman far out. 319 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: I didn't realize that. 320 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: Is that not so messy? 321 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: Is he still with Olivia Mun? 322 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: Yes, and they have two children now? 323 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: Bloody hell. 324 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 3: I bet the ex wife is not watching too many 325 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 3: of his comedy specials. 326 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 2: Anymore. 327 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: No, she would not be funny him funny. 328 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: No, not in the slightest. Okay, let's move on to 329 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: number three. 330 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 4: This is my favorite celebrity divorce of all time, and 331 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 4: that's why I've saved it for last, because it's so messy, 332 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 4: it's so good, and it's also local. 333 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: Oh okay, what do you got for us? 334 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 5: All right? 335 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: Carl Sevicnovic and Cassandra Thorburn. 336 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 3: Okay, Karl Stefanovic obviously, who hosts The Today Show on 337 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 3: Channel nine. He was married to Cassandra for years, I believe, 338 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 3: and this split it felt like a dragged on for years. 339 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 4: It definitely did, and so they split in twenty seventeen. 340 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 4: They've been together for twenty one years, three kids, and 341 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 4: it was pretty shocking because his whole thing was like, 342 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 4: I'm the goofy family guy on the Stake show. 343 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: I'm your daggy dad, you know. 344 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 4: And then they announced the split, and then he started 345 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 4: dating someone younger very quickly afterwards, the gorgeous, huge. 346 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 3: Designer Jasmin Yarb. Yes, again, we're not suggesting there was 347 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 3: any overlape. 348 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 4: No, I think there was absoutely any overlap, but it 349 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 4: just meant like he moved on to a younger woman. 350 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 4: It was a difficult time for him media wise, and 351 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 4: I think part of that was and you know, good 352 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 4: on her. 353 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: Cassandra definitely wasn't going quietly. Dare I say? 354 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 2: Okay? So? 355 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 4: And the thing I love about Cassandra is she didn't 356 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 4: bother using any flowerly language. She was just like, I'm 357 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 4: gonna say how it is. So she kept doing interviews, 358 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 4: which absolutely I'm all for. So my favorite quote is 359 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 4: the children still have a father, but I don't have 360 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 4: a husband. He really is dead to me. And no, 361 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 4: we won't ever be friends again. Okay, So it's definitely 362 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,359 Speaker 4: not like we're going on a journey in separate directions. 363 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 3: No, that is any relationship we had is completely dead 364 00:14:58,480 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 3: and that's his fault. 365 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 4: Well, he's old, like dead to her, Like I love 366 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 4: the fact that they have three children, and she's like, 367 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 4: but he's dead to me, Like that is a really 368 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 4: strong that's making Christmas lunch awkward like no, like like 369 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 4: no one's passing anyone in the prawns, do you know 370 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 4: what I mean? So that was that was pretty searing, 371 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 4: and that was quite sad. But then I then cass 372 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 4: kind of can I call a Cass, I'm going to 373 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 4: Cass kind of kept up with it like she was 374 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 4: dedicated to kind of delivering the truth. 375 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 2: She kept making statements on the record. 376 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: Yes, And obviously Carl was kind of like not really 377 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: saying anything. He was just going to the morning. 378 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: Show doing his job. 379 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 3: I mean, there's no win for him to comment on 380 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 3: that situation at all, so I can understand why he 381 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 3: doesn't want to. 382 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 4: Nothing a middle edge man can say about leaving his 383 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 4: wife and then getting a younger girl friend. 384 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: But that's okay because Cass is doing all the talking, Karen. 385 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 4: So then he announces that he's engaged to his new partner, right, 386 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 4: which is which we love Jasmine the shoe designer, and 387 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 4: Cass Andrews asked to talk about it. Cass and what 388 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 4: would you say if your partner got engaged? 389 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: Obviously, you know, I'm still hurt that our relationship didn't last, 390 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 3: but I wish them both the best and I hope 391 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 3: that they have a long and fruit for a relationship. 392 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 393 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 4: Wrong, So this is what Cassandra says, and it's it's 394 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 4: such an icond of quote to me that I actually 395 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 4: quote in my own life all the time. And something 396 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 4: offends me ready, his engagement doesn't register with me on 397 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 4: any level. That is the most incredible ant of all time. 398 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 4: It says so many things at once. I am just 399 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 4: focused on helping those affected by the ever changing landscape 400 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 4: of my ex husband's life. 401 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 3: How have you used that register line in your own life? 402 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 4: Look what I hear things I don't want to hear. 403 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 4: For instance, you've got a fine doesn't register with me 404 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 4: on any level. 405 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: You're honor sometimes your honor. 406 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 4: That doesn't register with me. My boyfriend sometimes will be like, 407 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 4: oh can you transfer me money for like the light 408 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 4: bill up? 409 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: Like that doesn't register with me on any level. 410 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 4: I think it is the funniest thing to say because 411 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 4: it's like so so aggressive and like it just it 412 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 4: just Look what can you say? Like if you told 413 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 4: me something and I say, that doesn't register with me? Like, 414 00:16:58,720 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 4: what's your comeback? 415 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 3: Nothing? It's the height of sas speaking of we've got nothing, 416 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 3: We've got no time left. Mary Madigan, you've been wonderful. 417 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for jumping into the from the 418 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 3: newsroom studio today. 419 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: Please let me come back. 420 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: I will have a strong. 421 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 3: Think about it. It doesn't register with me on any level. 422 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 3: That request, but thank you so much for listening. We'll 423 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 3: be back tomorrow. 424 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: Bye. 425 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 4: Follow or subscribe to from the newsroom, wherever you get 426 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 4: your podcasts.