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Speaker 1: From the newsroom and news to come to me today.

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Speaker 2: There, I'm Andrew Buckalow, and I tell you what. There

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Speaker 2: is so much cool stuff happening this weekend. Don't believe me? Okay,

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Speaker 2: here you go. The world's largest Legoland amusement park is

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Speaker 2: set to open in Shanghai.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty cool in sport.

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Speaker 2: Wimbledon continues in London and then across the Channel, the

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Speaker 2: Tour de France bi Craze gets underweight this weekend. But

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Speaker 2: arguably the most exciting event of all is the Oasis

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Speaker 2: reunion tour.

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Speaker 1: It is finally happening.

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Speaker 2: The boys are set to hit the stage together for

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Speaker 2: the first time in fifteen years. In today's episode, we're

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Speaker 2: going to chat to someone who's met the Gallagher brothers.

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Speaker 2: She'll tell us why the band broke up, how much

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Speaker 2: they're set to make from their upcoming gigs, and what

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Speaker 2: really happened that during the band's disastrous tour down Under

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Speaker 2: in the late nineties. Well it was back in August

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Speaker 2: last year, the brothers Liam and Noel Gallagher dropped a bombshell.

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Speaker 3: Oasis back after a fifteen year hiatus. Oasis is making

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Speaker 3: a comeback. The British fan announcing a fourteen deep tour

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Speaker 3: due to begin in July twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: I can't actually believe the two of them have managed

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Speaker 4: to get back together after years of feuding. Me and

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Speaker 4: him are like sellapathic, know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: I know my brother better than anybody else when both

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Speaker 5: come together.

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Speaker 1: She agreetment, Yeah, it's not far away now.

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Speaker 2: The Oasis Live twenty five tour kicks off on Saturday morning,

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Speaker 2: Australian time. They've got two shows in Cardiff in Wales,

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Speaker 2: and joining me now to discuss at all this news

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Speaker 2: dot com dot Au music writer Kathy McCabe Good day.

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Speaker 4: Kathy, Gooday, Bucky.

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Speaker 1: How big of a deal is this first concept?

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Speaker 6: I reckon there's going to be gazillions of people and

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Speaker 6: particularly in Australia, getting up early on Saturday morning to

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Speaker 6: watch this via crap TikTok's live stream.

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Speaker 4: So I think it's going to be a pretty big deal.

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Speaker 6: I mean it's it's the first tour since their explosive

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Speaker 6: two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 4: They've been doing several weeks.

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Speaker 6: Of rehearsals and the vibe apparently coming from them has

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Speaker 6: been good. Both the Gallaghers have match fitness with their

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Speaker 6: respective bands over the years, so it's not like, you know,

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Speaker 6: they're coming out of some sort of rusty cage to

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Speaker 6: play these gigs. And I mean, everybody who's bought a

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Speaker 6: ticket to this wants it to be celestial, as Liam

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Speaker 2: They are scheduled to do forty one shows over the

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Speaker 2: next few months as part of this tour. They've got

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Speaker 2: gigs in Europe, the US, Japan, Australia, South America. From

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Speaker 2: what I understand, it's going to be very lucrative for them.

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Speaker 1: Is that right?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And it's not just box office gross we're talking

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Speaker 6: about here. I mean, there's been speculation that both Liam

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, this tour is projected to grow.

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Speaker 6: Smare than eight hundred million at the box office and

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Speaker 6: with a whole bunch of associated deals. It's just come

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Speaker 6: million dollars. There's an Addidas collab, there's anniversary record reissues,

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Speaker 6: which is coming out in October, and I'd say a

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Speaker 6: and probably a doco with all of the streamers came

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Speaker 2: Ah, the boys have worked it very well. We do

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Speaker 2: know that they're pretty volatile, the Gallagher brothers. How confident

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Speaker 2: are you, Kathy, that they'll actually get through this whole tour?

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Speaker 6: Well, this is the eight hundred million dollar question. Isn't

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Speaker 6: it look older wiser they've banked the cash. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I think one of the reasons why the brothers got

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Speaker 6: back together was nol split with his former wife Sarah McDonald,

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Speaker 6: who apparently Liam was not a fan of. And I'd

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Speaker 2: Well, let's hope that they make to their Aussie gigs

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Speaker 2: playing five gigs across Melbourne and Sydney in November. Now, Kathy,

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Speaker 2: this will be their third tour down Under. I think

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Speaker 2: the first one was back in nineteen ninety eight and

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Speaker 2: it was a shit show.

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Speaker 1: Tell us all what.

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Speaker 4: Happened, oh Man.

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Speaker 6: By this stage, like Oasis, were the kings of bad

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Speaker 6: boy rock and roll. It was stamped into their DNA.

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Speaker 6: They wore that badge so proudly. So the trouble with

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Speaker 6: the Australian tour happened before they even got here. They

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Speaker 6: were flying to Australia on Cathay Pacific. Liam in particular

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Speaker 6: was being an absolute brat, swearing apparently, there was objects

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Speaker 6: being thrown around the cabin. He was smoking in areas

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Speaker 4: I mean, could we still smoke on planes in No.

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Speaker 6: Eight?

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Speaker 4: I can't even remember, but this cracks me up.

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Speaker 6: He was allegedly furious over the shape of a scone

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Speaker 6: and I know, of all the things to send a

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Speaker 2: I've actually got some footage from a news report back

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Speaker 1: Let's just have a listen to that.

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Speaker 5: I was like to flight for help.

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Speaker 7: Passengers from the Cafe Pacific flight to say the band's

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Speaker 7: behavior was dangerous, forcing the captain to intervene.

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Speaker 3: They were throwing things at passengers, They were abusive, they

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Speaker 7: I'm surprised that one that they weren't taken away by

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Speaker 7: if it had been you or I carrying on like that,

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Speaker 7: I'm damn sure that that's exactly where we would have

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Speaker 6: It was huge news, and Kathay Pacific was sort of,

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Speaker 6: bad luck. And then Liam doubled down when he got

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Speaker 6: He approached Liam outside his hotel obviously kind of waved

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Speaker 6: the controversy didn't and they're down in Sydney. He was

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Speaker 1: Him bloody Hell.

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Speaker 2: Listen, Kathy, you have been a music journalist for a

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Speaker 2: very very long time. Have you ever interviewed Liam or

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Speaker 2: nol and if so, what would they like.

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Speaker 6: I have been lucky to have spoken to both of

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Speaker 6: were in oasis. I got to interview Noel once in

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Speaker 4: But both of them are just.

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Speaker 6: Like a journalist dream, as everybody who's ever spoken to

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Speaker 6: You say hello and press record, and off Noel goes.

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Speaker 6: He has opinions about everything, He knows what you're after

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Speaker 6: and he gives you the headline.

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Speaker 4: Liam is kind of more of a surprise.

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Speaker 6: He's kind of a sweet guy, and he loves talking

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Speaker 6: about his kids. He's really really proud at how they're

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Speaker 4: So they're two very different beasts. You know.

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Speaker 6: Noel likes to be the smart, intelligent guy, whereas Liam

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Speaker 1: Now, stick around.

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Speaker 2: In just a moment, Kathy's going to tell us about

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Speaker 2: the infamous fight between the Gallagher brothers they brought an

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Speaker 2: end to Oasis fifteen years ago. Welcome back, I am

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Speaker 2: Chattington News dot com dot I use Kathy McCabe about

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Speaker 2: the Oasis reunion tour. Tomorrow's concert will be their first

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Speaker 2: since two thousand and nine when they had an epic

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Speaker 1: Kathy, what do we know about that incident all these

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 6: So, this was at a festival in Paris on August

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Speaker 6: and Liam's drinking had probably reached its zenith at that

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Speaker 6: no Just is completely over this. The guitars on the ground,

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Speaker 4: Far out.

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Speaker 2: Liam was actually asked about their breakup on a British

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Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say at the time.

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Speaker 5: that's what you're doing about so And I don't know what.

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Speaker 5: Maybe he just wanted to go solo and do his

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Speaker 5: the fun out. You know, he just wanted to do

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Speaker 5: his thing. But I don't know what I've done really

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Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting comments there from Laham. Now listen, these are

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Speaker 2: pretty unique characters, the Gallagher brothers. I understand you've got

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Speaker 2: a fun story about Noel for us. Oh.

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Speaker 6: One of the things that I think is the most

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Speaker 6: So Noel, you know, likes to show off wealth and

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Speaker 4: They're worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. The guy doesn't

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Speaker 8: It's an one hundred and ten pounds getting a car

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Speaker 4: Now it's like swimming.

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Speaker 8: I can't swim either.

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Speaker 4: What we swim for.

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Speaker 1: If you drive into a swimming pool, you're.

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Speaker 6: The clincher is So he obviously has a driver who

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Speaker 4: So Noel was summons to court because he's the owner

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Speaker 4: of the.

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Speaker 6: Car, and he basically had to say, well, yeah, but

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Speaker 6: I wasn't driving.

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Speaker 4: Them, Kathy.

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Speaker 2: Before I let you go, I've got to ask what

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Speaker 2: is your favorite Oasis song of all time?

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Speaker 6: When they announced the tour, I kind of fell into

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Speaker 6: a rabbit hole of playing you know, the old Spotify

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Speaker 6: this is the Oasis playlist, just kind of you know,

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Speaker 6: Rekindle the Spark, and I got stuck on Champagne Super

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Speaker 6: and Over. I just could not stop playing that song.

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Speaker 6: And when you realize what this epic sing along rock

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Speaker 6: song is about, you know, their father leaving them and

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Speaker 6: hit me in the heart and I've just fallen madly

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Speaker 6: in love with that song.

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Speaker 2: It's wonderful for me because that was my graduation song

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Speaker 6: The campfire song. You gotta love it. Bunch of blokes

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Speaker 6: backyard barbecue, arms around each other, screaming at to the sky.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 2: A bit of goon next to us as well. Memories, memories,

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Speaker 2: Actually they're pretty hazy memories. Kathy McCabe, thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for jumping on the podcast.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate it my pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Hey, there's actually still a few tickets left to the

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Speaker 2: Oasis gigs in Australia later this year. They've got three

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Speaker 2: concerts in Melbourne, two in Sydney, and I reckon they

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Speaker 2: are gonna go off. I don't have a ticket yet,

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Speaker 2: so if anyone wants to send me a freebie. Andrew

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Speaker 2: dop Bucklow at news dot com dot you all right,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for listening to today's episode. Have

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Speaker 2: a cracking weekend, won't you, and I will chat to

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Speaker 2: you again on Monday.

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