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Speaker 1: Oh good a. Thank you for joining us on the

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Speaker 1: body and Soul podcast called Healthy Ish. I'm your host

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Speaker 1: Felicity Halley, and joining us in the studio to dissect

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Speaker 1: the hottest topics in the health and wellness world this

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Speaker 1: week is our Fab digital editor Holly Berkomen. Oh yes,

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Speaker 1: we've got some goodies for you.

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Speaker 2: Holly.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back and welcome back to Australia.

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Speaker 2: Bench to Japan, I have thank you very much, guys.

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Speaker 2: Surprise holiday, I know, how was it? It was amazing.

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Speaker 2: I went skiing in Niseko, which was fantastic. It was

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Speaker 2: the first time I've skied in Japan. I have been

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Speaker 2: to Japan before once last year, but the skiing was

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Speaker 2: really sensational, like powder out the wazoo. Amazing. Oh, it

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Speaker 2: was great, very jelly, it was good. I ate ramen.

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Speaker 2: I hung out with my family. It was great. Such

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Speaker 2: a great trip. Yeah, it was really lovely. Well how

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Speaker 1: I'm good. Yeah, I'm just managing. February is a pretty

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Speaker 1: busy month in the Harley household. I have three children

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Speaker 1: born in the same week.

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Speaker 2: Oh my, how did you image that?

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Speaker 1: People often say we the Swan's doing really well at

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Speaker 2: Were they winning games, but no, it just it just happened.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: One was three weeks early, one was two weeks late. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: one was a week early and literally in the same week,

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Speaker 1: and so funny two a day apart. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: So it's very frantic. We have lots of birthdays, lots

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Speaker 1: of parties and and I think over the years, I

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Speaker 1: now probably go over the top because I want every

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Speaker 1: one of them to feel special and sweet. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to feel one over the other.

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Speaker 2: It's an administrative nightmare, I'm sure. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, good luck for another year now. Yeah, what's

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Speaker 1: happening with you? Now? You're back in body and zul HQ.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, happy to be back at the Helm this week.

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Speaker 2: And the story that I really liked this week is

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Speaker 2: our latest column from Fab contributed Tanya Hennessy, comedian, radio host, etc.

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Speaker 1: She's a lot of fun, she's.

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Speaker 2: Great and you've probably seen her columns come up on

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Speaker 2: Instagram things for us. But the latest was is this

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Speaker 2: the world's biggest red flag? So many to choose from,

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Speaker 2: but her pick is that people don't ask questions anymore.

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Speaker 2: Have you noticed this?

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Speaker 1: People aren't curious about others?

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Speaker 2: I think so, Yeah, Yeah, so Tany said, why is

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Speaker 2: no one curious anymore? I'm fascinated by people. I want

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Speaker 2: to know about people's lives. How do people not find

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Speaker 2: others interesting? They have a whole story to tell, give

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Speaker 2: me a different perspective on something I'll probably never live.

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Speaker 2: I want to know. And I really relate to that,

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Speaker 2: you know, like when I'm talking to people, I'm curious

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Speaker 2: about what they do for work, I'm curious about where

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Speaker 2: with their friends, what they're interested in. And so I

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Speaker 2: think for me, it's very natural. But maybe this is

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, I think it is because

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Speaker 2: You're a podcaster, you're a journalist.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I really find it. It's a great Like

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Speaker 1: I'm really into having really rich conversations. I'm the same,

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Speaker 1: So asking questions, maybe that's just part of our trade.

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Speaker 2: And part of me thought. Maybe people are like unsubscribing

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Speaker 1: Maybe my other thought is that when you are standing

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Speaker 2: I agree. I also think this has impacted the dating

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Speaker 1: No, and often we don't know what to say because

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Speaker 2: That's so true. My best friend Annabelle always laughs at

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Speaker 2: Like I would be happy if someone asked me a

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Speaker 1: Do you find though, sometimes when people ask if you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why it's so embarrassing When I do it

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to be a connects with you.

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Speaker 2: oh if you ordered, Yeah, they look like you at

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Speaker 2: you like you've grown a second and god forbid, I'm

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she's I think she's onto something and

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Speaker 2: I agree, big curious, ask people things, try and learn

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Speaker 1: to be research that shows connecting with strangers. Actually, I

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Speaker 2: Yes, we have spoken about this. It's those like micro

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that's how task for the next week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone go ask questions please, I'm begging you.

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Speaker 1: I love this story on the website. It really got

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Speaker 1: me clicking thank you do protein powders actually work? I

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Speaker 1: just felt it was speaking to me. I mean, I've

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Speaker 1: Or am I being fleeced for money with clever market

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Speaker 1: that we all know that protein is a must for

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Speaker 1: our health. That provides the building blocks for every selling

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Speaker 1: just thought this story was really good. You interviewed a

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Speaker 1: Sydney based nutritionist, LaToya Cruz, and according to her and

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Speaker 1: dieticians Australia, most Australians are not getting enough protein in

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Speaker 1: So let me believe I'm training for this half marathon,

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Speaker 1: maybe I do need to really focus on my protein

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Speaker 2: Well, well, well there you go.

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Speaker 1: So it should always I mean obviously balanced diet first

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Speaker 2: protein powders. Can you know, it's ultra processed, So I

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Speaker 1: of most click story off the word.

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Speaker 2: People have got relationships on the mind, and maybe this

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Speaker 2: is off the back of Valentine's Day. So the top

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Speaker 2: story was these other warning signs you're headed for divorce.

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Speaker 2: Number one, you didn't buy your wife a Valentine's Day present.

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Speaker 2: I'm working, OK, But I think it's very easy to

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Speaker 2: things are the communication is on the rocks. It's a

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Speaker 2: Two non stop arguing another brainer, no brainer. There three,

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Speaker 2: a loss of intimacy. I think this is more important

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Speaker 2: for some couples than others, and it doesn't necessarily mean sex.

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Speaker 2: It can be intimacy in other ways. And then for

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Speaker 1: And I think these are feed into each other because

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