1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: On scor lids Ostrodia. 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: This is the Wader Panalty Show. 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the readA Panety Show. Coming 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 3: up tonight, the debt riddled Victorian government imposes another crippling 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 3: tax on propertyholders dan while we'll be here to discuss 6 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 3: the day's top headlines, including the impact of the Albanza 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 3: government's plan tax on unrealized games. Josh Hammer will join 8 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 3: me with the latest from the US, including the curious 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 3: timing of Joe Biden's cancer diagnosis, and later in the 10 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 3: hour Kins's Scofield we'll be here with celebrity and world news, 11 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 3: including Megan Markle's popularity pummitting to a new low. And 12 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 3: we never forget Left is losing it tonight, the race 13 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 3: obsessed Left object to a few dozen Afrikaners being granted 14 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 3: asylum in America. 15 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 4: We can't be ourselves in the Episcopal Church and take 16 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 4: the step of resettling white Africaners from stuf North Africa. 17 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 4: Our church has a long commitment to racial justice and reconciliation. 18 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 3: But First Liberal leader Susan Lees under mounting pressure to 19 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 3: drop the net zero policy negotiated by Scott Morrison with 20 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,639 Speaker 3: the Nationals in twenty twenty one as the party seeks 21 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 3: to forge a new path forward. The Australian newspaper revealing 22 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 3: today that both the Liberal and National Party rooms are 23 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 3: divided over their commitments to net zero and energy policies. 24 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 3: Joining me now for more on this is Deputy Executive 25 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 3: Director of the Institute of Public Affairs, Dan Wild. Dan. 26 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: The Coalition adopted net zero in twenty twenty one and 27 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: since then they've suffered two devastating election losses. Do you 28 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 3: see a link between those two events? 29 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, net zero is a vote loser. Time to try 30 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 5: something different. You know, you and I have discussed the 31 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 5: many and varied economic and social consequences of net zero 32 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 5: to Australia talking about the Liberal Party. Though obviously net 33 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 5: zero is inconsistent with Liberal values. It enables a massive 34 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 5: expansion to government bureaucracy to interfere in almost every single 35 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 5: aspect of our lives, whether it's the food we can eat, 36 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 5: the cars we can drive, the houses we can live in, 37 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 5: the kind of industries that we can have in our economy. 38 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 5: So it's inconsistent with any ethos of smaller government. It's 39 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 5: also a threat to our national sovereignty because it requires 40 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 5: us to import foreign technology, including from China, into Australia, 41 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 5: and it's also a massive tax on working Australians when 42 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 5: you look at how energy bills are going up and 43 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 5: the cost of living is going up, which is primarily 44 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 5: driven by energy costs. So on any account, of course, 45 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 5: the Liberal Party should be dumping net zero. 46 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: You're a candidate at the recent election in a safe 47 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 3: labor seed. Did you, as a Liberal candidate have any 48 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: input into any policy into the net zero position? 49 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 5: Not at a central level, reader, I mean, I advocated 50 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 5: the cause on the ground. But you know one thing 51 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 5: I can tell you, particularly in out of suburban electorates 52 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 5: such as the one I stood for, is that not 53 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 5: one single person came up to me and asked me 54 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 5: how is Australia going in meeting our nationally determined contribution 55 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 5: to cutor additions to net zero by twenty fifty under 56 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 5: the Paris Climate Agreement. Funnily enough, that wasn't raised even 57 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 5: once Rita. It might be hard to believe, but you know, 58 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 5: Australians are just over the climate fanaticism and one a 59 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 5: government which is focused on the bottom line, not on 60 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 5: bureaucrats in Brussels. 61 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: I just can't understand the coalition sticking with this policy. 62 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 3: I said it all throughout this year during the election campaign. 63 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 3: The last time they fought an election on this issue, 64 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 3: they won the unwinnable election back in twenty nineteen, and 65 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 3: they signed up to zero devastating loss. Devastating loss again. 66 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 3: And you can't fight about issues like cost of living 67 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 3: when you signed up to this madness, because it impacts 68 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 3: every facet of life, from businesses to households to large 69 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 3: scale manufacturing sector. It is absolutely crippling for us. But 70 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: let's move on to the Abanazy government's tax on unrealized 71 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 3: gains on superannuation funds in excess of three million dollars. 72 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 3: It will come into effect July one. It's expected to 73 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 3: pass both the Lower House and the Senate with ease, 74 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 3: given the Greens have the balance of power in the 75 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: upper house and the Liberals really fail to explain why 76 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 3: this tax is so so unfair, so grossly unfair. And 77 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 3: it doesn't just impact the reach, it also has a 78 00:04:53,880 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 3: massive impact on investment, a negative impact on the investment. Yeah, 79 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 3: that's right. 80 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 5: I think there's a couple of things. You know, as 81 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 5: with any kind of new tax, it's actually often the 82 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 5: rich that can avoid at the best because they have 83 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 5: the resources told to their investment portfolios to minimize the 84 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 5: impact of tax. Actually those are the middle that tend 85 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 5: to copy it. The other point is this will damage 86 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 5: self you know, the sm self run super funds, and 87 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 5: it will channel more money into industry super funds, and 88 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 5: which is obviously a benefit to labor and the unions, 89 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 5: given that those super funds are run by unions. I 90 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 5: think the other point reader is this tax is incredibly opaque. 91 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 5: It's not really clear how it will be administered. And 92 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 5: one of the fundamental principles of taxation is you need 93 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 5: to actually know how much tax you're liable for. So 94 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 5: you know, you earn an income, you've got to pay 95 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 5: income tax, you buy something from the shops, you pay GST, 96 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 5: you own a business, you pay payroll tax. That we 97 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 5: can debate the sites and the magnitude of those taxes, 98 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 5: but at least they're obvious in terms of how much 99 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 5: you have to pay. But this tax is very opaque, 100 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 5: so I don't even know if the treasure himself can 101 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 5: explain how this is going to be enforced or how 102 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 5: much packs The typical investor is actually going to pay. 103 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 3: Well, it's going to impact as many as one point 104 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: eight million Australians, could spread to other income levels and 105 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 3: other structures. It's one that would think we have to 106 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 3: keep talking about. But now to the Victorian state budget, 107 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 3: and despite the net debt soaring towards two hundred billion, 108 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 3: premierges Into Allen and Treasurer Jacelin Simes are hailing a 109 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,239 Speaker 3: six hundred million dollar surplus stand This is nine hundred 110 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 3: million dollars lower than what was forecast last year. They 111 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 3: are hailing this as the state's first back in black 112 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 3: budget since the pandemic. But really, who are they fooling here? 113 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 3: Victoria is in dire financial straits and we're facing a 114 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,559 Speaker 3: credit downgrade Dan. The state's credit rating is already at 115 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 3: a record low and it could fall further. 116 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right. 117 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 5: I don't think that the claim surplus is worth the 118 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 5: paper it's written on, because we know that tens of 119 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 5: billions of dollars, particularly in the infrastructure investments, have been 120 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 5: shuffled off the books. They're done through other vehicles that 121 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 5: aren't accounted for in the normal The headline figures that 122 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 5: we see written up in the media and propagated by 123 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 5: the government. So you've got the massive suburban railroop, which 124 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 5: is unpopular, unnecessary and is unaffordable, and many other costs 125 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 5: that aren't included in this. So look, I think that 126 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 5: ultimately everybody knows that Victoria is going downhill when it 127 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 5: comes to its finances and economy. This is no longer abstract. 128 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 5: We're seeing cuts to funding of schools, potential cuts to 129 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 5: health and other services of. 130 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 3: Victorians rely upon. 131 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 5: And of course if Victoria goes down, it will bring 132 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 5: the rest of the country with it. We already know 133 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 5: that it's getting a larger distribution of the GST to 134 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 5: compensate for the Victorian government's financial mismanagement. And at the 135 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 5: end of the day, it's going to be everybody else 136 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 5: in this country that will have to bail out the 137 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 5: failing state that is Victoria. 138 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 3: Now. CFE volunteers across Victoria have stopped attending callouts and 139 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: some have threatened to quit. Some have even burned their 140 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: uniforms in fury over the state government's new emergency services tax. 141 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: This tax replaces the fire services levy, will be raising 142 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 3: more money and it will be changed alongside council rates. 143 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 3: And while all landholders in Victoria are going to be 144 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 3: paying for this. It's farmers in particular who are facing 145 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 3: massive increases, possibly tens of thousands of dollars, and a 146 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 3: lot of farmers volunteer for the CFA. DAN, you can 147 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: understand why they're so upset. 148 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is an absolute disgrace. It's being done primarily 149 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 5: because the volunteers in the CFA are not unionized, so 150 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 5: they want to government wants to shove out the volunteers 151 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 5: and bring them under a union rubric. So this is 152 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 5: a disgraceful attack on a critical volunteering organization being done 153 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 5: for political purposes. It heightens the risk of risk to 154 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 5: human life in the event of a bushfire because Victorians 155 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 5: rely upon the services of volunteers, and I think it's 156 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 5: an example of just how short sighted the government is 157 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 5: when they're attacking the very people they're engaging in a 158 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 5: community surface that is so valuable. So I think there's 159 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 5: a lot to be worried about in the direction of this. 160 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 5: But unfortunately, as we just discussed, because the government is 161 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 5: so cash strapped, they're going to be looking to tax 162 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 5: absolutely everything that moves. Well. 163 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 3: We are saying that in Victoria in particular, they are 164 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 3: absolutely hooked on property taxes in particular, whether it's land tax, 165 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 3: stamp duties and now we've got emergency services tax Stan. 166 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 3: It really is again a disincentive to invest in Victoria. 167 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 3: Why would you invest in this state where you're going 168 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 3: to be absolutely crippled with taxes, particularly if you're a 169 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 3: mum and dad a landholder. 170 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 5: Well that's right, and I think it's also cautionary tale 171 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 5: for the rest of Australia, which is, you know, this 172 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 5: is what happens when you don't get your financial house 173 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 5: in order. I think for a lot of people, massive 174 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 5: government debt it's a pretty abstract concept. It doesn't appear 175 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 5: to affect their day to day lives. But what actually 176 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 5: happens is you get reduction to services and higher taxes. 177 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 5: And yes they'll start at the top end. They say, 178 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 5: oh we're any taxing property investors. That won't affect people 179 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 5: on the ground. But then salami slice after salami slice, 180 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 5: it gets worse and worse until you find the economy 181 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 5: is plunged into a very deep recession, which is where 182 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 5: I fear Victoria is going. 183 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 3: Now before you go, you are in South Australia, I'm 184 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 3: interested in your take on the latest development in the 185 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 3: Willie Rioli saga. He's served a one match suspension for 186 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 3: threatening a player via a teammate online. But Dan was 187 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 3: seeing many in the AFL world, and in particular at 188 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 3: Port Adelaide, trying to frame Willioli as the victim. Now 189 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: Port Adelaide president David Kosh even suggested that he was 190 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 3: the victim of culturally insensitive comments from the Bulldog, something 191 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 3: the Bulldog's coach was not going to cop. 192 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 7: As a matter of fact, that the comments weren't culturally 193 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 7: in sensitive. That surprised me that he would insinuate or 194 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 7: accuse our pliers of going down that track. But we 195 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 7: won't ask for an apology. 196 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: We'll just. 197 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 7: Obviously remember it for the next time. 198 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 3: Dan Luke Befridge made some good points. They also made 199 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 3: the excellent point that port is effectively enabling Rioli's poor 200 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: behavior with these endless excuses. 201 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right. 202 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 5: I think your article a couple of days ago summed 203 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 5: it up, which is another exam example of the hypocritical 204 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 5: double standards of the AFL. You know, I thought the 205 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 5: AFL W stood for AFL Women's It turns out it 206 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 5: stands for AFL woke. You know, time and time again 207 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 5: we see this sort of double standard apply to identity politics. 208 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 5: You know, you could take the example of tex Walker 209 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 5: and another great South Australian footballer who you know a 210 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 5: little while ago, was rubbed out for a number of 211 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 5: games and had to pay a massive fine because of 212 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 5: alleged racial comments that he made that I don't believe 213 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 5: we're ever recorded anywhere, and maybe he made them, maybe 214 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 5: he didn't, but you know, how come that gets one 215 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 5: treatment and you know, this situation with Rioli gets another one. 216 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 5: I mean, you also make the point about Port coach 217 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 5: Hinckley who got a massive fine for you know, something 218 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 5: that was pretty innocuous, and again we see the double standard. 219 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 5: So I just think the football fans had a gut 220 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 5: full of this double standard that applies to the AFL, 221 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 5: and if the rules are there, they should be applied 222 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 5: to everybody on an equal basis. 223 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 3: Yes, they're very selective about how they apply their rules 224 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 3: and a lot of people presumed there was some racial 225 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 3: aspect to why they were initially so soft on Willie Rioli. 226 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 3: They find the coach, they're twenty thousand dollars for something 227 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 3: that wasn't offensive or threatening. It may have not been 228 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 3: a good look. They find players thousands for giving the finger, 229 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 3: but a player making a threat and basically getting away 230 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 3: with an apology Initially, that did raise a lot of eyebrows. 231 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 3: Dan Wild, thank you so much for your time tonight. 232 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 3: Joining me now is esteem geologist and author Professor Ian 233 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: Primary inlets start in the US, where engineers have discovered 234 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 3: kill switches embedded in Chinese manufactured power inverters installed at 235 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 3: American solar farms, prompting fears that the Chinese Communist Party 236 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 3: could physically destroy grids across the US, UK and other 237 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 3: parts of U We're by remotely switching off the power supply. 238 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 3: Are we shocked by this development? This is precisely what 239 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 3: you've been warning about as a possibility. 240 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 6: No, not at all shocked. It's been on the cards 241 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 6: for a very very long time. And it could be 242 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,119 Speaker 6: a Chinese solar industrial complex. It could be a wind turbine, 243 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 6: it could be a Chinese car, it could be Huiwei 244 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 6: telecommunications network. We've known that this possibility existed for a 245 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 6: very long period of time. It's fairly easy to do, 246 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 6: and it's just a method of industrial chaos. Is trying 247 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 6: to weaken your opposition, so there are no surprises. 248 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 3: Can we trust the Chinese Communist Party not to resort 249 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 3: to these sort of tactics at some point? 250 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 6: I don't think you can trust any Communists, whether it 251 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 6: be Chinese or Russian or East German, that goes with 252 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 6: the territory. 253 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 3: Well, and we already know when it comes to trade, 254 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 3: with this latest tariff war we're having, that they do 255 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 3: not play by the rules, They steal intellectual property, they 256 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 3: do all sorts of things that are just grossly unfair. 257 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 3: And this is just another aspect of that. And we 258 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 3: are so reliant on them for this infrastructure, aren't we. 259 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 3: When we look at renewables, China's really the greatest beneficiary. 260 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 6: Well, there's a simple solution to that. Don't go net zero, 261 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 6: don't go renewables. 262 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 3: Go back to. 263 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 6: Cheap, reliable coal fired electricity. We had it for a 264 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 6: long time. 265 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 3: Typed China users reduce these solar Yes, that's exactly what happens. 266 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 6: China buys our coal and then produce the solar panels 267 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 6: and wind turbines and other machinery to compete against our industries. 268 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 6: So they get it both ways, and we copy it 269 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 6: in the eyes both ways, So this is absolute manner. 270 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 6: So the solution is simple, go back to cheap, reliable 271 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 6: coal fired electricity in this state, Victoria, it was the 272 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 6: cheapest in the world with the brown coal that we 273 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 6: had here. Now it isn't no. 274 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 3: And it's amongst the most expensive you would say, our 275 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: energy prices. Now, what is your assessment of the newly 276 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 3: appointed Environment Minister Murray Wat. He's promising to deliver a 277 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 3: decision on the Northwest Shelf gas project by the end 278 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 3: of the month. Will he be an improvement on his predecessor, 279 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 3: Tannia Plibasek. Of course, she infamously blocked a number of 280 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 3: major projects that would have raised significant tax revenue created 281 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 3: a multitude of well paying jobs in regional areas. Can 282 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 3: we expect better from Murray Wat? 283 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 6: Well, I don't know. He didn't shine in his previous 284 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 6: portfolio and it's not hard to outshine Tanya Plebasek. So 285 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 6: he's only going to be fairly dull and not very 286 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 6: reflective and he'll do better. It's very very clear that 287 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 6: there was an internal fight going on in the Labor 288 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 6: Party and Tanya Plebersek was driving this to make life 289 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 6: very difficult for the Prime Minister. She's lost at portfolio. 290 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 6: Maybe the labor government might think that having a productive economy, 291 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,719 Speaker 6: an economy that actually creates wealth, an economy that actually 292 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 6: has organizations and people pay tax, maybe that's best for 293 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 6: the country rather than playing ideological factional games. 294 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 3: Now to an issue that is getting scant media coverage, 295 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 3: and that's the drought that has left parts of Victoria 296 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 3: in severe distress. Parts of the state have had really 297 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 3: no rainfall for two years. There is some relief, but 298 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 3: many farmers are missing out. 299 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 8: Duncan Barber's farm at Metcalf is one of those that 300 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 8: missed out. It's been pretty hard to deal with seeing 301 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 8: all that death. You've got to deal with death neely 302 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,239 Speaker 8: every day. He feels forgotten by the government. I know 303 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 8: they've got no money because poor management, and they're not 304 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 8: going to That's why they don't want to help us. 305 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 4: There's a nationally recognized framework that brings areas into the 306 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 4: drought declaration. 307 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 3: It's hard not to think that the state government here 308 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 3: has just great disdain for farmers. For regional areas, there 309 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 3: is a great deal of suffering out there at an anger. 310 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 6: Well, that's the case. Farmers get the short straw country wide. 311 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 6: They suffer drought, they suffer floods, they suffer bush fires. 312 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 6: This droughts not only restricted to southwestern Victoria, southeastern South 313 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 6: Australia as well. Yet northeastern Victoria is quite wet, so 314 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,719 Speaker 6: these are localized droughts. These have a dramatic effect on 315 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 6: the cash flow of farmers. Farmers get treated with absolute 316 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 6: disdain in this country. You've only got to see how 317 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 6: they're treated with putting high voltage power lines across their land, 318 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 6: sterilizing their land, or putting wind turbines proximal to their properties. 319 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 6: So we actually should be treating our farmers much better. Now. 320 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 6: If the farmers had really you got sick of this, 321 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 6: they actually could go and strike like our union friends, 322 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 6: and they would not deliver food to the cities and 323 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 6: every one week before we'd have absolute chaos and possible 324 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 6: anarchy in the cities. So the farmers have a huge 325 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 6: amount of muscle, and we have to be careful to 326 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 6: treat farmers as people who are actually providing a great 327 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,959 Speaker 6: service and that is food on your table. 328 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 3: I think there's going to be some protests in the 329 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 3: Melbourne CBD tomorrow morning, so we'll bring you news of 330 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 3: that tomorrow. Now, before you go the new Greens leader, 331 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 3: Larissa Waters, I'm interested in your take on her. It 332 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 3: doesn't look like she's going to be returning the Greens 333 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 3: to their environmentalist roots. She's all about social justice. 334 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 9: We're the Greens, so of course we stand firm always 335 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 9: on social justice and human rights, whether that's First Nations justice, 336 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 9: whether that's a free Palestine, whether that's peace and human rights. 337 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 3: Globally, we will always. 338 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 9: Be there calling out atrocities, calling out a genocide and 339 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 9: standing strongly on social justice and human rights. 340 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 3: Is it more of the same, Well, I think it's 341 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 3: more of the same. 342 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 6: I mean, a Green Party really should be concerned about 343 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 6: environmental matters, and they are not. They are supportive of 344 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 6: bulldozing large amounts of rainforest in Queensland to put in 345 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 6: wind turbines. They're supportive of bulldozing large amounts of forest 346 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 6: and the snowy mountains to put in high voltage power lines. 347 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 6: And these people are basically concerned about issues which communists 348 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 6: around the world are concerned. So they've got nothing to 349 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 6: do with the environment. And if they were an environmental party, 350 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 6: they wouldn't be killing the forests. They wouldn't be killing 351 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 6: birds and bats with turbine blades. They wouldn't be killing 352 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 6: whales with offshore turbines. They wouldn't be poisoning soils with 353 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 6: wind blades and with detritus coming off solar panels. They're 354 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 6: not a Greens party at all. They are a minor 355 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 6: group of rat bag communists who want to control everything 356 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 6: in the country. 357 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 3: Professor in Plymouth, thank you for those insights. Still to 358 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 3: Kalma left his Losing ed class the latest from the US, 359 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 3: including the curious timing of Joe Biden's cancer diagnosis. Josh 360 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: Hammer has the details. You're watching the Reader Panny Show, 361 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 3: and it's time for lefties losing it. Let's start with 362 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 3: another celebrity who is determined to trash their own reputation. 363 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 3: This one appears to have no qualms about his legacy 364 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 3: being damaged with his ignorant, hair brained hate and vitriol. 365 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 3: Here is Bruce Springsteen launching into a boring anti Trump 366 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 3: die tribe to an audience who would rather he just 367 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 3: sang some of his classic songs. 368 00:21:54,280 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 10: They're removing residents of American streets out due process of law, 369 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 10: are devoting them to foreign detention. 370 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 3: Centers and prisoners. This is all happening now. 371 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 10: The majority of our elected representatives have failed to protect 372 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 10: the American people from the abuses of an unfit president. 373 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 3: And a rural He wasn't done yet, though the audience 374 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 3: seemed to be thoroughly fit up. You can tell that 375 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 3: by the scant applause. 376 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 10: The America of that I've sung to you about for 377 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 10: fifty years is real. 378 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 3: And regardless of its face, it's a. 379 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 10: Great country with a great to will survive this morning. 380 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 3: Look, we can't talk about Bruce Springstey without featuring his 381 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 3: great work during the election campaign, where he appeared at 382 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 3: Kamala rallies to built out the classics. 383 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 11: You'll be carming you about right, See, you gotta stay hungry. 384 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 3: Well, I'm just about starving the night. Oh dear. 385 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 4: Little world falling apart. 386 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 10: This gun's for higher. 387 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 11: Even if we just dancing in the girl. 388 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 3: Now, trust me, that was literally the best bit. I 389 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 3: could have been mean and played this, working on. 390 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 11: Dad's grin, driving all like cheez and some rush. 391 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 3: That is green. But at least old Bruce is short footed. 392 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 3: Sure he can't sing anymore, but he can dance. I'll 393 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 3: have more celebrities disgracing themselves tomorrow and I but now 394 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 3: to the left losing it because the Trump administration is 395 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 3: granting refugee status to a few dozen Africanas. Of course, 396 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 3: white landholders are increasingly fleeing the racial hatred and violence 397 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 3: of modern day South Africa. But MSNBC would prefer them 398 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 3: to stay where they are. Here is Donna Edwards. 399 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 12: Well. 400 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: In my view, what makes it different is that they 401 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: are white South Africans. The President, in my view, has 402 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: not hidden his racism behind a bushel. In fact, you 403 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: know in his policies, whether it's removing government workers or 404 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: in this case admitting white South Africans, of denying refugee 405 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: status asylum seekers from other countries disgraceful. 406 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 3: And the race spaces are in the churches too. Here 407 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 3: is Bishop Chnroe. 408 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 4: We can't be ourselves in the Episcopal Church and take 409 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 4: the step of resettling white africaners from South Africa. Our 410 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 4: church has a long commitment to racial justice and reconciliation 411 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 4: and we have historic ties with the Anglican Church of 412 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 4: South Africa. Desmond Tutu is a part of a partner 413 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 4: and a partner in this work for us. We're just 414 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 4: not able to take this staff. It's not in line 415 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 4: with anything that we're about. 416 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 3: And let's have a quick look at what's happening in 417 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 3: South Africa. Here is a politician calling for white women, 418 00:25:48,960 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 3: white children, and even their pets to be killed. And 419 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 3: here is a politician leading a stadium full of people 420 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 3: calling for and I quote, shoot to kill, kill the boer, 421 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 3: kill the farmer. But MSNBC and CNN and the rest 422 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 3: of them must have missed all that. If you want 423 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 3: to see how loathsome and intolerant these leftists are, then 424 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 3: look no further than Ashley Allison, who firstly seems to 425 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 3: be quite happy with the discriminatory laws in South Africa, 426 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,959 Speaker 3: and then she really ramps up the bigotry. 427 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 13: That allowed for a racial reconciliation, one that this country 428 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 13: has yet to do. But South Africa did it and 429 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 13: they reformed their constitution. And part of that is that 430 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 13: the people who are native to that land deserve their 431 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:03,479 Speaker 13: rightful land back. That is not what the Afrikaaners actually 432 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 13: want to have happened, which are the white Africans and 433 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 13: so who are not originally from Africa who colonize South 434 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 13: Africa also, and so that is what they are saying 435 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 13: is discrimination. Now, if the constitution in South Africa is discriminatory, 436 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 13: they have their checks and balances in that land just 437 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 13: like we do, and that is for them to So 438 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 13: if the Afrikaaners don't actually like the land, they can 439 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 13: leave that country they are. They can actually even go 440 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 13: to where their native land is, which is probably Germany. 441 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 3: Are you against in coming here, Holland, Holland? Are you 442 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 3: against in coming here? 443 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 13: I'm against the hypocrisy of this in MINUSESO, let's get 444 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 13: the question. The questions are against coming here if there 445 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 13: was actually a genocide happening. 446 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 3: So Afrikanas being murdered in their own farms should flee 447 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 3: to where they came from almost five hundred years ago, 448 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 3: the Dutch settlers the Afrikaanas first arrived in Africa or 449 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 3: in sixteen fifty too. But they need to go back 450 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 3: to Holland. But some gangbanger from El Salvador who was 451 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 3: in America five minutes and entered illegally, Well, they've got 452 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 3: to be considered American and given all their rights. Let's 453 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 3: allow Ashley Allison to finish her as nine point. 454 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 13: I'm not opposed to Venezueland and South America's coming to America, 455 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 13: if they are fleeing and looking for asylum, what I 456 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 13: am against. It's not about being against them. What I 457 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 13: am against is that they are being given special treatment 458 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 13: when there is not a genocide happening in South Africa 459 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 13: and they just don't like the law of the land. 460 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 3: Well you know what, Yes, they don't like the law 461 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 3: of the land in South Africa, the ones where their 462 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 3: land is seized without compensation. Great point. Ashley joining me 463 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 3: now is a Newsweek's senior editor at Large an article 464 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 3: three projects Senior Council Josh Hammer. Josh, We're going to 465 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 3: speak about the timing of Joe Biden's cancer diagnosis shortly, 466 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 3: but first on this issue, have you been surprised by 467 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 3: the manner in which these lefteris have attacked a few 468 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 3: dozen Africanas arriving in America? 469 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 2: You know, readA god, God bless Scott Jennings, who we 470 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 2: just saw there on CNN. Now that man deserves a 471 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 2: pay raise because of just the utter humiliating crack that 472 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 2: he has to go through night in and night out 473 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 2: on CNN. I mean, it's just utterly insane there. I 474 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 2: mean this, this woman is clearly telling America that she 475 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 2: just hates white people. I mean that that is actually 476 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: what she's saying in there. She she even she knows 477 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: though that she actually cannot say that, because even she 478 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 2: would probably be kicked off the show if you said 479 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 2: up there. But that's exactly what she's saying. We're talking 480 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 2: here about about about about four to four and a 481 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: half dozen africaners. This is this is nothing. I mean, 482 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 2: I mean, this is a pimple on the back of 483 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 2: the of the butt of the rear end of the 484 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 2: American immigration apparatus. There there's a tiny, tiny, tiny sliver 485 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: of the migrants who have been let in over the 486 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 2: past four years on the Biden administration. There again, this 487 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 2: is pure unmitigated racism there. It's nothing less than discussing. 488 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 2: By the way, the South African government is absolutely positively horrific. 489 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: I know this because you know read it prior to 490 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 2: our first baby being born in leint December my my wife, 491 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 2: we're about to go on a baby moon. As as 492 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 2: the Millennials and gen Z coll It, we actually looked 493 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 2: into going to South Africa. Thereby, I did a little 494 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 2: research on the government there. This is a radically Marxist 495 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 2: extraordinarily far left, horrific, horrific regime currently empowered there. They 496 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 2: are the ones currently leading the genocide charge incidentally against 497 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 2: Israel in the ICJ and the ICC. We have this 498 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 2: horrifically racist policy. They're outright Marxism stripping private property there. 499 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: It's horrific. And anyone, frankly, who defends this current government 500 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 2: South Africa, it says a lot more about them than 501 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 2: it says about anything else. But ultimately read it the 502 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 2: American left, they see every single issue through one prison 503 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: in one prism only, and that is race. 504 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 3: Well, they are all near Marxist really, because what she 505 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 3: said there, if you listen to the full clib, she 506 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 3: was applauding South Africa. She was saying that've had the 507 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 3: reckoning that America hasn't had yet, as if it's something 508 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 3: to look forward to. And yes, sadly, South Africa is 509 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 3: going down the path of Zimbabwe. You can see that 510 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 3: happening very clearly. Now, let's talk about Joe Biden and 511 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 3: the sad news that he's battling advanced cancer. Josh, I 512 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 3: want to play you this clip from two years ago 513 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 3: when on stage Biden said he had cancer. He even 514 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 3: explained why he thought he had cancer. But then we 515 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 3: were told on I know, this was just a gaff. 516 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 12: And because it was a four lane highway that was accessible, 517 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 12: my mother drove us and rather than us be able 518 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 12: to walk and guess what the first frost, you knew 519 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 12: what was happening. It how to put on your windshield 520 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 12: wapers to get literally the oil slick off the window. 521 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 12: That's why I had so damn many other people I 522 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 12: grew up have cancer. And why camp For the longest time, 523 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 12: Delaware had the highest cancer rate in the nation. 524 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 3: That doesn't sound like a gaff or a starter, Josh No. 525 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: And look, you know the crazy thing, Rida. There's a 526 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 2: new book out this week, this book called Original Sin 527 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 2: Right by Jake Tapper of CNN and Alex Thompson of Axios, 528 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 2: and it's making all the headlines there. It's generating all 529 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 2: the attention here in the United States this week is 530 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 2: focused on this one book by Tapper and Thompson. Then, 531 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 2: of course they're making themselves out to be the innocent 532 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 2: victims in the fourth Estate there in the media, as 533 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 2: if they were duped by the Biden White House there. 534 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 2: They obviously were completely in on the game from the 535 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 2: get go there. But the crazy thing is that these 536 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 2: same people, the same people RITA that just pulled a 537 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 2: Soviet level information operation to gaslight the American people for 538 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 2: the past five years about Joe Biden's mental and physical decline, 539 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 2: both people inside the administration and their mouthpiece media propagandists 540 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 2: on the outside, the Pravda like Jake Tapper before he 541 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 2: conveniently flipped one hundred eight degrees there, the same people 542 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 2: who gas led us for the past four years are 543 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 2: now going to say that those of us who have 544 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 2: the hootspot, who have the gall to ask whether or 545 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 2: not there was a similar cover up about Joe Biden's 546 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 2: medical condition he cancer diagnosed. There, they're about to say 547 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 2: the word that were horrible people all over and oh, 548 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 2: don't worry us, you know, Oh yeah, maybe maybe maybe 549 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 2: we kind of buried a few stories there about the 550 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 2: president's kind of his cognitive decline there. But don't you 551 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 2: dare ask but whether or not we actually hid his 552 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 2: cancer diagnosis there? But look, I mean that click kind 553 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 2: of speaks for itself, wasn't it. 554 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: There. 555 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,719 Speaker 2: I mean, that's not a gaff reader. That is a 556 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 2: man just saying the truth in the open there. You 557 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 2: know funny. I find it awfully convenient that this news 558 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 2: about this prostate cancer is coming out right now. As 559 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 2: I said the very week of this original sin book 560 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 2: by Jay Tapper, Now Thompson, I'm not buying it. Something 561 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 2: here is up. 562 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 3: And it's coming. A week or so after that appearance 563 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 3: on The View where Joe Biden with Jill Biden had 564 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 3: an extended interview. Again, it was disastrous. It didn't go 565 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 3: as they planned. It just reinforced what we all thought 566 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 3: about his cognitive decline, and this seems to be the 567 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 3: counter to it. It's terribly sad, but this is the 568 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 3: level of mistrust that's in that administration now and in 569 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 3: the mainstream media that the questions being asked about and 570 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 3: when they learned about this diagnosis. Now, President Trump's had 571 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 3: a history making Middle East a troupe. An example of 572 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 3: his peace through strength strategy, he acknowledged Josh Josh that 573 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 3: the US hasn't always been a force of good in 574 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 3: the region. 575 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 11: Before our eyes, a new generation of leaders is transcending 576 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 11: the ancient conflicts of tired divisions of the past and 577 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 11: forging a future where the Middle East is defined by commerce, 578 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 11: not chaos where it exports technology, not terrorism, and where 579 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 11: people of different nations, religions, and creeds are building cities together, 580 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 11: not bombing each other out of existence. In the end, 581 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 11: the so called nation builders wrecked far more nations than 582 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 11: they built, and the interventionalists were intervening in complex societies 583 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 11: that they did not even understand themselves. They told you 584 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 11: how to do it, but they had no idea how 585 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 11: to do it themselves. 586 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 3: Josh, this is a dramatically different approach from what we've 587 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 3: seen in the past, is the rejection of the neo 588 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 3: kon warhawk interventionists. How did you say that, trip. 589 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 2: Well, that speech specifically was a fantastic speech. I watched 590 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 2: the whole thing. Actually, he gave that speech in Riad, 591 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia, he spoke at this US Saudi conference. So 592 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 2: he's done Yeomen's work to already pull back Saudi Arabia 593 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 2: and the Unit of Arab Emirates from falling prey into 594 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 2: the Chinese sphere of influence. There, China had done a 595 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,280 Speaker 2: lot of outreach via its belt and wrote initiative into 596 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 2: the Arabian Peninsula during the Biden administration. Because the Bid 597 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,280 Speaker 2: administration was Molly coddling the Iranian regime and the Arabs 598 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 2: basically then all went to China. So Donald Trump, I 599 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 2: think deserves three cheers for what he did with the 600 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 2: Saudis and the Murdies. Now read I will be cannid 601 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 2: with you. I am a bit concerned about the Qatari 602 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 2: piece of the puzzle. Their Qatar is a much more 603 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 2: complicated country than Saudi Arabia, and the UAE has been 604 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 2: a financier of Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood, even Al Qaeda 605 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,479 Speaker 2: and I the times in the past there, so I'm 606 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,479 Speaker 2: not necessarily in love with Qatar being a whole part 607 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 2: of this American romance in the Middle East. There, I view 608 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 2: Kutar quite differently actually than the Saudis the Marats, which 609 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,479 Speaker 2: are non Islamist Arab states there. I'm also a little 610 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 2: bit concerned about the potential direction of the Iran nuclear 611 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 2: talks there. But ultimately everything that Donald Trump is saying 612 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 2: on the Iran issue was actually very good. So as 613 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 2: long as he as long as what as long as 614 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 2: he says what he means, and he means what he says, 615 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 2: and I think everything's going to be okay. 616 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 3: Well it seems to be there also not just to 617 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 3: try to bring about peace, but also to do business deals. 618 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 3: He signed deals worth around six hundred billion with the 619 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 3: Saudis alone. And as a construction guy, he was very 620 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 3: impressed with the marble work in the region and did 621 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 3: job you've done a second and then you look at 622 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 3: this is so beautiful. 623 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 11: As a construction person, I'm seeing perfect marble. 624 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,240 Speaker 6: This is what they call perfect. 625 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 4: And just a great job you've done it. 626 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 3: Yes, the marble work there, Josh, is something to be hold. Meanwhile, 627 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 3: the Democrats have the likes of Tim Walls, the failed 628 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 3: VP candidate setting the agenda. He's called immigration officials a 629 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 3: modern day gestapo. 630 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 14: Donald Trump's modern daescapo is scooping folks up off the streets. 631 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 14: They're in unmarked vans, wearing masks, being shipped off to 632 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 14: foreign torture dungeons. No chance to mountor defense, not even 633 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 14: a chance to kiss the loved one and goodbye, just 634 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 14: grabbed up by massed agents, shoved into those vans and disappeared. 635 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 3: Josh, Is this the future of the Democrats? Is this 636 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 3: what they are going to take to the twenty eight election? 637 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 2: You know, it's as if nothing has changed, isn't it. 638 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 2: I mean, this is a that what the Democrats were 639 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 2: saying during the first Tump administration. I mean, I mean, 640 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 2: AOC becomes a congresswoman from New York City in the 641 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen midterm election. In her first year in Congress. 642 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 2: In twenty nineteen, I vividly recall her comparing the ICE 643 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 2: detention facilities to Nazis concentration camp. So here we are 644 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 2: six years later, and now Tim Walls is making the 645 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 2: exact same analogies. I mean, I mean, this is so 646 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 2: disgusting that that I barely feel like it even has 647 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 2: to be commented on. But on the one hand, I 648 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,879 Speaker 2: mean just so utterly appalling, obviously, I mean to make 649 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 2: these sorts of analogies there. I mean, these people that 650 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 2: are being interrogated and by the way, they're given habeas corpus, 651 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 2: they're giving due process. You know, contrary to what you 652 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 2: hear in the corporate media. To hear, these people that 653 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 2: are being seized by ICE are not US citizens. They 654 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 2: are in the country illegally. They are not on illegal visa. 655 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 2: They are here illegally. They're the Jews who are round 656 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 2: them up. By the gestapos were citizens of their country. 657 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,399 Speaker 2: They had done literally nothing wrong other than the mere 658 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 2: fact that they were Jewish, or this is just such 659 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 2: an appalling, just as a loathsome disgusting analogy any way 660 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 2: you can possibly draw it there. But I think the 661 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 2: more important point is they've learned absolutely freaking nothing. They 662 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 2: got shlacked in this presidential election rida, and look at them. 663 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 3: They don't know what to do. 664 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 2: They're running around like a bunch of with their heads 665 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 2: cut off. 666 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:01,479 Speaker 6: There. 667 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 2: I'm just happy that I'm not the one point to 668 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 2: sort it out, because, frankly, if I were a Democratic strategist, 669 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 2: if I were a Jimmy Carvell, I don't even know 670 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 2: what I would be thinking when I see crap like 671 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 2: this there. I mean, how do you rectify this? These 672 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,359 Speaker 2: people have to just go away and hide their heads 673 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 2: in a paper bag for the rest of attorney. That's 674 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 2: probably their only decent chance to get back to sanity 675 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:18,439 Speaker 2: at this point. 676 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 3: I tell you, if you're JD. Vance and you're watching that, 677 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,399 Speaker 3: you would have a smile on your face because it's 678 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 3: just going to walk it in. It's going to be 679 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,919 Speaker 3: a bit of a cakewalk if they don't improve their game. 680 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 3: The Democrats are before you go tell me about this 681 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 3: Supreme Court decision, the justices ruled seven to It was 682 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 3: a split decision, seven to temporarily block the Trump administration's 683 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 3: efforts to deport Venezuelan gang members who are in the 684 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:51,280 Speaker 3: country illegally. The decision was largely over a technical issue 685 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 3: Josh Right. 686 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 2: So it's not quite any substantive ruling as to the 687 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,959 Speaker 2: statutory interpretation of this seventeen ninety eight statue. The yelling 688 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 2: enemies that there having said that Rita that the fact 689 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 2: that it was the seven to two decision is nonetheless 690 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 2: indicative there. So we've seen a handful of these seven 691 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 2: two decisions there. It always ends up being Justices Clarence 692 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 2: Thomas and Sam Alito. They are by far the most 693 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 2: two conservative, the most two constitutionalist originalist justice there. You know, Unfortunately, 694 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 2: all three of Donald Trump's nominees Ammy Cony, Barrett Breck Havanaugh, 695 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 2: and Neil Gorsich. They're better, for sure than John Roberts, 696 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 2: but they are not nearly as good as Sam a 697 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 2: Leader or Clarence Thomas. And if a scotis vacancy or 698 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 2: God willing, more than one opens up in these four years. 699 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 2: While Trump as president of RITA, Conservatives are going to 700 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 2: have to do a lot better than we did the 701 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 2: last time there because these are really, really, really precious vacancies. 702 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,879 Speaker 2: We can we simply cannot afford to mess it up. 703 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 3: I think that will be amongst Donald Trump's worst mistakes 704 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 3: in his first administration, because he could have really secured 705 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 3: the Supreme Court, and then the candidates he peaked, whoever 706 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,919 Speaker 3: advised him, they haven't worked out as planned. Josh Hamma, 707 00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,280 Speaker 3: thank you so much for your time tonight. 708 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 8: Thank you. 709 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 3: Min still to come, Megan Markle's popularity plummets to a 710 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 3: new low. Kinsey Schofield has the latest welcome back. Joining 711 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 3: me now is celebrity and royal commentator Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey 712 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,879 Speaker 3: will start with Barack Obama's daughter Malia, who has been 713 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 3: accused of plagiarism by an independent filmmaker who premiered her 714 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 3: film at sun Dance. 715 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 6: Now. 716 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 3: She says that a recent Nike commercial directed by Malia 717 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 3: is shockingly similar to her work. What do you make 718 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:40,760 Speaker 3: of these allegations, Kinsey? 719 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 15: Well, and Malia was at Sundance, this particular Sundance where 720 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 15: this short film premiered. I don't you know, I think 721 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,399 Speaker 15: children and famous parents are thrust into the spotlight, whether 722 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 15: they like it or not, and that visibility comes with 723 00:41:54,640 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 15: massive amounts of pressure. But with the constant they need 724 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,280 Speaker 15: to be more mindful of everything, whether it's what they're wearing, 725 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 15: what they're saying, what they're doing. The margin of a 726 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 15: four error is so much smaller when the whole world 727 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 15: is watching, and I think they look a lot alike. 728 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 15: I'm not gonna lie to you, reader. 729 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, we played a little bit of its side by side, 730 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 3: and from those clips they look familiar. But I haven't 731 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 3: watched the full short film that is in question here. Now, 732 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 3: let's move along to Donald Trump hitting back at Bruce Springsteen. 733 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 3: After the rock singer took to the stage in Manchester 734 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 3: and in front of a fairly disinterested audience, it seemed 735 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 3: he unleashed this tirade in. 736 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 12: The America. 737 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 10: I love the America has been making of whole liberty 738 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 10: for two hundred and fifty years, is currently in the 739 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,760 Speaker 10: end of a prolatively. 740 00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 3: Competent Donald Trump has hit back at Bruce Springsteen. He 741 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 3: has posted quite an attack back, calling Springsteen as dumb 742 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 3: as a rock and a dried app prune of a roka, 743 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:20,240 Speaker 3: amongst other things. This feud is pretty interesting, Kinsey. 744 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 15: It isn't you know? Financially people are struggling, and if 745 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 15: I'm paying five hundred pounds for Springsteen, the only thing 746 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 15: I want to hear is Born to Run. We get 747 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 15: people's political opinions on Twitter and X for free all day, 748 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 15: every day. The edginus associated with being an artist with 749 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 15: a political opinion is totally gone. It's you know, it 750 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 15: no longer makes you special. Just do your job or 751 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 15: I want a refund. 752 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,919 Speaker 3: And you know what you think they would learn? Springsteen 753 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 3: was so active during the election campaign, even performed for 754 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris at her rallies, and we saw the result. 755 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 3: It was a comprehensive loss. Lost every sweet state, lost 756 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 3: the popular vote, lost the electoral College by quite a margin. 757 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 3: You think you just stick to his knitting rather than 758 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 3: boring people with these ridiculous lectures. Meghan Markle, now we 759 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 3: do love her, but that love seems to be not 760 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 3: widespread because there's fresh Ugov polling showing that Megan Markle's 761 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 3: fan base has reached a new load. She's got a 762 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 3: favorability rating of just twenty percent, Kinsy. This is the 763 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 3: lowest on record. 764 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 15: What an awful anniversary, geft Rita. It's her wedding anniversary. 765 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 15: You know, she's been so relentless lately trying to sell 766 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 15: us the new and improved version of herself, and. 767 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 3: People don't want it. 768 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 15: You know, they've realized that the person that they led 769 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 15: in the beginning, except for you because you saw it immediately, 770 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 15: didn't really exist. So they have no emotional attachment to 771 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,720 Speaker 15: this woman in the way that they might still feel 772 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 15: connected to Prince Harry. They're just like, we don't need you, 773 00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 15: we don't want you, we don't really know you, and 774 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 15: we have no interest in you. 775 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,879 Speaker 3: Well, it is a bit like that. The more we 776 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 3: see of her, the more inauthentic and boring she's. I mean, 777 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 3: I think that's the most revealing thing. She's not that interesting, 778 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 3: which could be why she's roping in controversial model and 779 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 3: TV host Chrissy Tagan to feature in the second season 780 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 3: of Meghan Mikael's cooking show with Love Meghan, Tell Me 781 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 3: About This. 782 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 15: Now Here's what Kills Me. Reader Meghan Markle has built 783 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 15: much of her public image around speaking out against online 784 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 15: abuse and cyberbullying, frequently referencing her own experiences to support 785 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 15: her advocacy. That's what makes her connection to Christy Tagan 786 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,840 Speaker 15: so questionable. Tagan has openly admitted to harassing and urging 787 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 15: a teenage girl, Courtney Stadden, to harm herself. Meghan can't 788 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 15: play both sides. Can't campaign against digital cruelty while embracing 789 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 15: someone who once embodied it. It sends the message that 790 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 15: cyberbullying is own worth fighting against when it happens to 791 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 15: you or fits your narrative. 792 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 3: And again, not just the ugly online behavior from Chrisytigue 793 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 3: and some of the things she has said over the years, 794 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 3: some of the political positions she's taken a really polarizing, 795 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 3: divisive figure. So for again for Megan to cozy up 796 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 3: to her, but I think she's just desperate for any 797 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 3: star power. Any celebrity who's willing to participate in this 798 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 3: mess will be welcomed with open arms. Now to an 799 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 3: independent ordered conducted by Price Waterhouse Coopers, and it found 800 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,800 Speaker 3: Kinsey that Justin Bieber still owes his former manager, Scooter 801 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 3: Braun more than eight point eight million US, despite the 802 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 3: fact that they parted ways some two years ago. 803 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 15: Yeah, so we talk a lot on here about what 804 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 15: we think is going on with Justin Bieber, and a 805 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 15: part of me wonders if this could be a little 806 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 15: bit of the issue. I mean, money issues can lead 807 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 15: to irrational behavior. Financial stress. It can trigger fear, anxiety, 808 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 15: and when people feel overwhelmed or out of control with 809 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 15: their finances, they can make impulsive and emotional decisions, whether 810 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 15: it's lashing out, which we've seen him yelling at paparazzi lately, 811 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 15: making reckless purchases. I mean, the huge party he threw 812 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 15: at Coachella had to be incredibly expensive. Blaming others, you know, 813 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 15: it doesn't give Justin an excuse for some of his 814 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 15: recent behavior, but it might give us a little bit 815 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,280 Speaker 15: more insight into what's been going on behind the scenes. 816 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 3: Now, before you go, Katie Perry is no longer welcome 817 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 3: at Vegas. This reports that they're not keen for her 818 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 3: to continue her residency there. I can't imagine. Why have 819 00:47:47,840 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 3: a look at this Kinsey. I'd pay top dollar to 820 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 3: see dance moves like that, wouldn't you. 821 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,320 Speaker 15: Oh my gosh, you know, with all of the talent, 822 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,880 Speaker 15: the true talent that's in Vegas. No, the return on 823 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 15: investment was not there for this casino, this hotel, and 824 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 15: that Las Vegas residency that she just wrapped. You know, 825 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,879 Speaker 15: it quite simply wasn't the monetary success that they had 826 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 15: needed to justify its existence. 827 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:28,439 Speaker 1: No. 828 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 3: I've seen quite a few video clips, many of them 829 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 3: have gone viral, and I've got to say, Kinsey, all 830 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 3: of them are cringe worthy. There's none that you look 831 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,799 Speaker 3: at and go Okay, that's what you would expect from 832 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 3: an A list star. Most of it is, like what 833 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 3: we've just showed you, pretty qringe worthy. Kinsey Schofield, thank 834 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 3: you so much for your time, and that's all the 835 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,880 Speaker 3: time we have. I'll see you tomorrow night at eleven. 836 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere. Nears Night is up next 837 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 1: Six